And if you listened to what she said, if that's the case then you need to alter your environment and heal from your trauma and fix bad habits. Not be medicated.
Honestly, as a 30 year old adult, being on the right combination of medications for depression/anxiety/adhd has made my life so much less miserable and continues to have second order effects. When I feel better, I do more things that will make my future self feel better and so on. As far as crushing the “dreamer” in children, if anything, I think medication can make it actually possible for some people to pull their dreams out of their heads and make them happen in the real world. That said, the choice to medicate is a complex one, especially if you are making that choice for your kid. I think that if my parents had treated my issues earlier, I would have been a lot more successful. I spent basically 10 years after age 18 trying to sort out my mental health enough to even begin to function at a normal level.
I think romanticizing a genius ‘dreamer’ inside every child whose parents label them ‘distracted’ is a pretty small lens to see what is actually going on here. What about when you so desperately try to get your career off the ground but it’s been ten years ? Or you can’t figure out why relationships don’t last more than 6 months ? Even worse is when the actual side effects start pulling down your self esteem alongside your over drawn bank account and yet everyday you ask yourself “But I had so much potential”. I agree medication seems like a trap, but undermining the behavior and actual mental disorder as a whole, just seems like a lack of research. And asking society to change as a whole ? I’d love that but that’s not realistic. That takes lifetimes. People with ADHD want to enjoy their life today, but most feel like they’re failing constantly and can’t figure out why. This goes way beyond ‘day dreaming’ and anxiety.
Know Thyself. And plan your life and endeavors accordingly. This needs Awareness or Mindfulness that can be developed with meditation and quiet introspection. Not a single person is a failure because there is no single universal measure of success.
We need more mental health advocates for children. By age 9 my daughter was prescribed 4 medications! We can’t keep medicating kids to meet someone else’s definition of “normal”. Kids should be kids. They should be allowed time outside to play and run “freely” and to develop like the social beings we were intended to be. The University’s around the country need to adapt to what it truly means to “help a child through healthy development “ not poison them with toxic drugs. The drugs put kids behind, not the kids being kids. I’m curious if the drug companies fund teaching programs? We know they find medical programs.
Have you seen the film? If not, please visit: medicatingnormal.com/watch We would love to do screenings focused on children if you know any organizations we should contact.
G.S.T. 30684; SPOT-ON U R!!!!! I'm age 55 (DOB: 7/20/1967) but when I was age 4 in 1971, I was on Ritalin (that started a path of being on 30+ different psych meds ovr a 40+ yr period b4 becoming psych med-free on 1/1/2017). @ age 10 in 1977, I was on Thorazine (adult-strength dosage, mind u). That fucked-up my sexual development. @ age 18, I had been on @ least 8 different psych meds. All bc my parents (whom were an only child from their respective families whereas I have an older sister whom I'm currently estranged from due 2 the psych med & other personal issues) bought in2 the "chemical imbalance" philosophy RE: mental health conditions. Again; this was in the early 1970s (50+ yrs ago) when I was put on psych meds (Ritalin in particular) all.bc some1 didn't like my behavior. W/that said, my parents did luv me but definitely didn't RESPECT me. W/o respect, there's no true luv. That blatant disrespect definitely can b very damaging 2 some1's mental health. All bc it's so much easier 2 medic8 than communic8. Then again, the info RE; negative effects from psych meds was blatantly squelched prior 2 approx a decade ago; bc mental health personnel (read: psychiatrists) & "Big Pharma" were essentially "in bed" w/each other. Compounding this matter; the info RE: negative effects from psych meds is now widely available 2 the general public (via the internet/social media) yet mental health personnel remains very rigid in their stance RE: mental health conditions REQUIRING "TREATMENT" (the euphemism 4 medication) yet meds r OPTIONAL 4 other health conditions (even insulin 4 diabetes---which mental health personnel luv equ8ing mental health conditions 2---is OPTIONAL---NOT MANDATORY/REQUIRED---as treatment 4 diabetes). In other words, medication shall b a LAST RESORT (NOT THE 1ST/ONLY RESORT)!!!!!
If anxiety causes a heart attack or death--I do think you need medical help. Im not a child. A lot of bad things can happen in which are beyond your control. Other people can be horrific and mean. Not everyone is for you.
Anxiety & Depression does not always have a precursor or trigger. In other words it can appear out of NOWHERE! In these circumstances there is no benefit! It simply DESTROYS your life!
Montesa; ur points r very well taken but it's been widely proven that mental health conditions r indeed triggered by environmental factors (u know EXACTLY what they r Gvn our previous communications btwn us).
@@billybandyk0720 @billybandyk0720 - The brain, like any other organ in the body, can malfunction, & fail, without the influence of any environmental factors. More often than not, this is the case.
@@montesa9136 No shit, ""Sherlock". Regardless; psych meds r still unnecessary bc they fuck up ur brain as well as ur body. BTW; ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS DO PLAY A ROLE in mental health conditions (moreso than u wanna believe).
@@montesa9136 Just because it can doesn't mean it's common. You're really going to tell me anxiety and depression will not come from some sort of traumatic/negative experience in someone's life? Most disorders in the organs HAVE a reason and can be diagnosed with diagnostic testing. It will be very apparent. Does heart disease just one day magically appear? If there were a random malfunction in someone's brain as you call it, wouldn't it be something that the individual was likely born with? Why is it that it's something that develops around the teenage phase/early adulthood phase. Also, if it were to be a malfunction wouldn't you believe that there'd likely be better answers for it. For example, a child born with a heart defect. There's no denying that defect is there. You have imaging that can accurately diagnose it, and surgical intervention that can up the quality of life drastically. Why is it if a brain malfunctions, we still have absolutely no clue where it comes from unless it were to be from a TBI, or a disorder along those lines.
I don’t know about that, and I’m skeptical that without anxiety for future events we wouldn’t get anything done. That seems to assume the only motivators are negative ones. In my own experience almost all of the anxiety I’ve experienced has been basically useless to accomplishing things.
@@l21n18 too much anxiety maybe; he means and I mean that there's nothing wrong with your brain, you have feelings, that's all; sometimes are overwhelming and it hurts but you are not less of a person. or a great person. witha great mind.
Exactly. There is a constant frenzy to organize, achieve, and succeed - though no one can come up with a single universal measure of success. No wonder there is widespread use of prescription drugs, alcohol, and other substances.
@@ss2k-u9gBc of that false philosophy; it's so much easier 2 medic8 than communic8. In doin' so; the REAL issues that TRIGGER mental health conditions r blatantly dismissed & disregarded.
I've GAD since age 10 and addiction/sobriety since 2012. I understand that it's environmental issues however the med helps me these last almost 20 years. I do agree that the anxiety was possibly inherited and even treatable through talk therapy. As we get into ADD/ADHD and those on the spectrum it gets murky. I grow through what I go through. What you resist persists and looms ever larger. Now I know in my middle years. Just "easier" get a diagnosis take a pill and stand in line.
I can't even imagine the absolute frustration of being her patient and hearing this. To need help and have her say no no its you being a " dreamer" "I can't help you for your own good" and the oldie but goodie " you ( the patient) is asking for complete eradication of negative feelings when if they would just listen for a change no one ever asked for that. Just for help.
Michelley B.; U slightly misconstrued what Dr. Anna said. From my perspective; what Dr. Anna said is that mental health conditions DO NOT ALWAYS REQUIRE MEDICATION as treatment. W/that said, psych meds @ (
I wish Dr. Lembke would collaborate with some people to present her knowledge in a more artistic, appealing way. Like all those great BBC history and science documentaries. She is so clinical. 🤔
Does anyone know when this was filmed (The original footage)? Seems super out dated to me considering the research on ADHD and dopamine. I think she is right and wrong. Of course anxiety, impulsivity and distractibility have evolutionary value and purposes but when something is chronic and unbalanced beyond the normal levels then I thinks its safe to start investigating these as disorders! We all need to take a shit but if you are shitting 30-40 times a day I would start asking questions! - for people with ADHD Stimulants don't crush dreams, they boost them. Since getting the correct treatment (which includes a panoply of tools not just meds) I have never been more creative and motivated to produce! Not treating ADHD for 10 years though gave me genralised anxiety. - Poeple with untreated ADHD are MORE likely to become addicts than those who are being treated. I really love Anna and her work perhaps this is out of context without the nuance she usually provides. If anyone wants to listen to a good balanced podcast on the neurobiology of ADHD check out Andrew Hubermans podcast. ua-cam.com/video/hFL6qRIJZ_Y/v-deo.html
Dr. Anna; SPOT-ON U R!!!!! Speaking of ENVIRONMENTAL IMBALANCES; when some1 gets abused, bullied, & harassed by other people (especially by those in authority; I believe that u know what I'm alluding 2), that ends up shaping 1's mental health. When some1 (especially children) takes a stand & fights back against abusers, antagonists, bullies, harassers, instig8rs, & perpetr8rs, the person on the receiving end often gets punished by being drugged 2 "control" the behavior & those who provoked it (i.e.: abusers, antagonists, bullies, harassers, instig8rs, & perpetr8rs) often get off "scot-free". Again, Dr. Anna; COMPLETELY AGREED RE: ENVIRONMENTAL IMBALANCES as a cause of mental health conditions.
I partially agree with this... we do need environmental change soooo bad. BUT, how much are you hurting someone with taking meds if we don't have the typical level of a chemical? What about the research about the people who are addicted to drugs because they weren't prescribed these?
Even the pharmaceutical companies don't understand how these drugs work, let alone know the appropriate level of brain chemicals. Unfortunately, it is a system of trial and error leaving most patients worse off after taking these medications.
@@ss2k-u9g I'm not sure I can concur. Anecdotally, I really wish I would have medicated sooner. I didn't medicate till age 34- I literally cried after my first few days of medicating. I wish I had done it so many years sooner, but I was worried. Now, I see the positive outlook and I notice so many struggles and pain that lead me to a deep depression. Now, I'm fighting to get off of my depression meds and just take my very low dose adderall. It's been a complete life-changer for me. I will never ever go back. I've never been able to think clearly like this before. I can't believe what I've missed my whole life. I'm upset that medication was so discouraged... but I do understand some hesitancies. I def think the decision is a lot more nuanced than many care to agree with.
I'm starting to think that we should use what works for us personally. Use stimulants and other drugs if they work for you and don't and they are not contributing to your quality of life or your happiness don't !
kid is setting living creatures on fire while his parents feed him unnatural chemicals and communicate to him in screams: he's such a lovely genius dreamer! follow your thrill!
I developed a driving anxiety so severe I could not drive without using Klonopin on a regular basis. I was unable to drive even on a broad and sunny empty neighbourhood street at five mph. Driving on a freeway among a lot of other cars is foolish if all you can do is hope your affirmations, essential oils or deep breathing will work when your life truly is in deep danger from your severe anxiety. The klonopin worked, and I was able to have jobs and travel the country.
@Lia N. Gkasouka Drugs don't help at all. The drugs destroy your entire body, the drugs are neuro toxins made in laboratories. The ingredients come from.... well no one even knows. There are 3 great pharmaceuticals, rest is garbage.
Hahaha...that is not the human condition. You cannot just have positive emotions - because positive and negative emotions are just two sides of the same coin. You cannot have one without the other.
I find a lot of this person’s claims to be dubious. Anxiety hasn’t been a fuel to get anything accomplished for me. I think they’re falling into the simplistic trap here
ok so common sense. So why is your field creating so many little weirdos that used to be normal? you all just keep your mouth shut and let it happen. cuz your not accountable.
Listening to this vid and the one on PTSD has helped me more than any pathologizing crap for my moderate anxiety and trauma. Thank you!
Anxiety can be helpful for certain future circumstances but it's HELL when it appears when it's not serving any practical purpose.
And if you listened to what she said, if that's the case then you need to alter your environment and heal from your trauma and fix bad habits. Not be medicated.
Honestly, as a 30 year old adult, being on the right combination of medications for depression/anxiety/adhd has made my life so much less miserable and continues to have second order effects. When I feel better, I do more things that will make my future self feel better and so on. As far as crushing the “dreamer” in children, if anything, I think medication can make it actually possible for some people to pull their dreams out of their heads and make them happen in the real world. That said, the choice to medicate is a complex one, especially if you are making that choice for your kid. I think that if my parents had treated my issues earlier, I would have been a lot more successful. I spent basically 10 years after age 18 trying to sort out my mental health enough to even begin to function at a normal level.
wrong chanel sir/mam
If you're so much of a mess than you require pills that's alright. But 99% of people aren't in that situation. They need lifestyle change and therapy.
I think romanticizing a genius ‘dreamer’ inside every child whose parents label them ‘distracted’ is a pretty small lens to see what is actually going on here. What about when you so desperately try to get your career off the ground but it’s been ten years ? Or you can’t figure out why relationships don’t last more than 6 months ? Even worse is when the actual side effects start pulling down your self esteem alongside your over drawn bank account and yet everyday you ask yourself “But I had so much potential”.
I agree medication seems like a trap, but undermining the behavior and actual mental disorder as a whole, just seems like a lack of research. And asking society to change as a whole ? I’d love that but that’s not realistic. That takes lifetimes. People with ADHD want to enjoy their life today, but most feel like they’re failing constantly and can’t figure out why. This goes way beyond ‘day dreaming’ and anxiety.
Thank you!
Know Thyself. And plan your life and endeavors accordingly. This needs Awareness or Mindfulness that can be developed with meditation and quiet introspection.
Not a single person is a failure because there is no single universal measure of success.
@@ss2k-u9g adhd is a neurodevelopmental disorder. You saying to develop mindfulness is like telling a diabetic to develop insulin
@@joemahma3017 mindfulness can actually treat symptoms of disorders. It is that powerful. Mindfulness is self knowledge, the best empowerment
We need more mental health advocates for children. By age 9 my daughter was prescribed 4 medications! We can’t keep medicating kids to meet someone else’s definition of “normal”. Kids should be kids. They should be allowed time outside to play and run “freely” and to develop like the social beings we were intended to be. The University’s around the country need to adapt to what it truly means to “help a child through healthy development “ not poison them with toxic drugs. The drugs put kids behind, not the kids being kids. I’m curious if the drug companies fund teaching programs? We know they find medical programs.
Have you seen the film? If not, please visit: medicatingnormal.com/watch We would love to do screenings focused on children if you know any organizations we should contact.
G.S.T. 30684; SPOT-ON U R!!!!! I'm age 55 (DOB: 7/20/1967) but when I was age 4 in 1971, I was on Ritalin (that started a path of being on 30+ different psych meds ovr a 40+ yr period b4 becoming psych med-free on 1/1/2017). @ age 10 in 1977, I was on Thorazine (adult-strength dosage, mind u). That fucked-up my sexual development. @ age 18, I had been on @ least 8 different psych meds. All bc my parents (whom were an only child from their respective families whereas I have an older sister whom I'm currently estranged from due 2 the psych med & other personal issues) bought in2 the "chemical imbalance" philosophy RE: mental health conditions. Again; this was in the early 1970s (50+ yrs ago) when I was put on psych meds (Ritalin in particular) all.bc some1 didn't like my behavior. W/that said, my parents did luv me but definitely didn't RESPECT me. W/o respect, there's no true luv. That blatant disrespect definitely can b very damaging 2 some1's mental health. All bc it's so much easier 2 medic8 than communic8. Then again, the info RE; negative effects from psych meds was blatantly squelched prior 2 approx a decade ago; bc mental health personnel (read: psychiatrists) & "Big Pharma" were essentially "in bed" w/each other. Compounding this matter; the info RE: negative effects from psych meds is now widely available 2 the general public (via the internet/social media) yet mental health personnel remains very rigid in their stance RE: mental health conditions REQUIRING "TREATMENT" (the euphemism 4 medication) yet meds r OPTIONAL 4 other health conditions (even insulin 4 diabetes---which mental health personnel luv equ8ing mental health conditions 2---is OPTIONAL---NOT MANDATORY/REQUIRED---as treatment 4 diabetes). In other words, medication shall b a LAST RESORT (NOT THE 1ST/ONLY RESORT)!!!!!
I want to hear more from Dr Anna, she should have her own podcast.
If anxiety causes a heart attack or death--I do think you need medical help. Im not a child. A lot of bad things can happen in which are beyond your control. Other people can be horrific and mean. Not everyone is for you.
Anxiety & Depression does not always have a precursor or trigger. In other words it can appear out of NOWHERE! In these circumstances there is no benefit! It simply DESTROYS your life!
Montesa; ur points r very well taken but it's been widely proven that mental health conditions r indeed triggered by environmental factors (u know EXACTLY what they r Gvn our previous communications btwn us).
@@billybandyk0720 @billybandyk0720 - The brain, like any other organ in the body, can malfunction, & fail, without the influence of any environmental factors. More often than not, this is the case.
@@montesa9136 No shit, ""Sherlock". Regardless; psych meds r still unnecessary bc they fuck up ur brain as well as ur body. BTW; ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS DO PLAY A ROLE in mental health conditions (moreso than u wanna believe).
@@montesa9136 Just because it can doesn't mean it's common. You're really going to tell me anxiety and depression will not come from some sort of traumatic/negative experience in someone's life? Most disorders in the organs HAVE a reason and can be diagnosed with diagnostic testing. It will be very apparent. Does heart disease just one day magically appear?
If there were a random malfunction in someone's brain as you call it, wouldn't it be something that the individual was likely born with? Why is it that it's something that develops around the teenage phase/early adulthood phase. Also, if it were to be a malfunction wouldn't you believe that there'd likely be better answers for it. For example, a child born with a heart defect. There's no denying that defect is there. You have imaging that can accurately diagnose it, and surgical intervention that can up the quality of life drastically. Why is it if a brain malfunctions, we still have absolutely no clue where it comes from unless it were to be from a TBI, or a disorder along those lines.
I heard Peter Breggin saying that 'anxiety' is not a bad thing; I wish I had here the quote; if you are lobotomized you cannot feel anxiety;
I don’t know about that, and I’m skeptical that without anxiety for future events we wouldn’t get anything done. That seems to assume the only motivators are negative ones. In my own experience almost all of the anxiety I’ve experienced has been basically useless to accomplishing things.
@@l21n18 too much anxiety maybe; he means and I mean that there's nothing wrong with your brain, you have feelings, that's all; sometimes are overwhelming and it hurts but you are not less of a person. or a great person. witha great mind.
anacionqtfixo I’d rather just not feel negative emotions, they just don’t help me
Anxiety should really be medicated after a point. You cannot function or sleep with anxiety after a point. My experience
I have asked the exact questions about ADHD. I say that it's the culture that's disordered, not the person.
Exactly. There is a constant frenzy to organize, achieve, and succeed - though no one can come up with a single universal measure of success.
No wonder there is widespread use of prescription drugs, alcohol, and other substances.
@@ss2k-u9gBc of that false philosophy; it's so much easier 2 medic8 than communic8. In doin' so; the REAL issues that TRIGGER mental health conditions r blatantly dismissed & disregarded.
I've GAD since age 10 and addiction/sobriety since 2012. I understand that it's environmental issues however the med helps me these last almost 20 years. I do agree that the anxiety was possibly inherited and even treatable through talk therapy. As we get into ADD/ADHD and those on the spectrum it gets murky. I grow through what I go through. What you resist persists and looms ever larger. Now I know in my middle years. Just "easier" get a diagnosis take a pill and stand in line.
I'd like to hear this from a medical standpoint
I can't even imagine the absolute frustration of being her patient and hearing this. To need help and have her say no no its you being a " dreamer" "I can't help you for your own good" and the oldie but goodie " you ( the patient) is asking for complete eradication of negative feelings when if they would just listen for a change no one ever asked for that. Just for help.
Michelley B.; U slightly misconstrued what Dr. Anna said. From my perspective; what Dr. Anna said is that mental health conditions DO NOT ALWAYS REQUIRE MEDICATION as treatment. W/that said, psych meds @ (
I wish Dr. Lembke would collaborate with some people to present her knowledge in a more artistic, appealing way.
Like all those great BBC history and science documentaries. She is so clinical. 🤔
Does anyone know when this was filmed (The original footage)? Seems super out dated to me considering the research on ADHD and dopamine. I think she is right and wrong. Of course anxiety, impulsivity and distractibility have evolutionary value and purposes but when something is chronic and unbalanced beyond the normal levels then I thinks its safe to start investigating these as disorders! We all need to take a shit but if you are shitting 30-40 times a day I would start asking questions!
- for people with ADHD Stimulants don't crush dreams, they boost them. Since getting the correct treatment (which includes a panoply of tools not just meds) I have never been more creative and motivated to produce! Not treating ADHD for 10 years though gave me genralised anxiety.
- Poeple with untreated ADHD are MORE likely to become addicts than those who are being treated.
I really love Anna and her work perhaps this is out of context without the nuance she usually provides. If anyone wants to listen to a good balanced podcast on the neurobiology of ADHD check out Andrew Hubermans podcast. ua-cam.com/video/hFL6qRIJZ_Y/v-deo.html
Dr. Anna; SPOT-ON U R!!!!! Speaking of ENVIRONMENTAL IMBALANCES; when some1 gets abused, bullied, & harassed by other people (especially by those in authority; I believe that u know what I'm alluding 2), that ends up shaping 1's mental health. When some1 (especially children) takes a stand & fights back against abusers, antagonists, bullies, harassers, instig8rs, & perpetr8rs, the person on the receiving end often gets punished by being drugged 2 "control" the behavior & those who provoked it (i.e.: abusers, antagonists, bullies, harassers, instig8rs, & perpetr8rs) often get off "scot-free". Again, Dr. Anna; COMPLETELY AGREED RE: ENVIRONMENTAL IMBALANCES as a cause of mental health conditions.
I partially agree with this... we do need environmental change soooo bad. BUT, how much are you hurting someone with taking meds if we don't have the typical level of a chemical? What about the research about the people who are addicted to drugs because they weren't prescribed these?
Even the pharmaceutical companies don't understand how these drugs work, let alone know the appropriate level of brain chemicals. Unfortunately, it is a system of trial and error leaving most patients worse off after taking these medications.
@@ss2k-u9g I'm not sure I can concur. Anecdotally, I really wish I would have medicated sooner. I didn't medicate till age 34- I literally cried after my first few days of medicating. I wish I had done it so many years sooner, but I was worried. Now, I see the positive outlook and I notice so many struggles and pain that lead me to a deep depression. Now, I'm fighting to get off of my depression meds and just take my very low dose adderall. It's been a complete life-changer for me. I will never ever go back. I've never been able to think clearly like this before. I can't believe what I've missed my whole life. I'm upset that medication was so discouraged... but I do understand some hesitancies. I def think the decision is a lot more nuanced than many care to agree with.
Chemical imbalance theory was a myth. A story
I'm starting to think that we should use what works for us personally. Use stimulants and other drugs if they work for you and don't and they are not contributing to your quality of life or your happiness don't !
I agree with this so much and it's something that really bothers me about society
I hope more people will see this video.
What about somatoform pain disorder? Is it due to the unconscious?
kid is setting living creatures on fire while his parents feed him unnatural chemicals and communicate to him in screams: he's such a lovely genius dreamer! follow your thrill!
I developed a driving anxiety so severe I could not drive without using Klonopin on a regular basis. I was unable to drive even on a broad and sunny empty neighbourhood street at five mph. Driving on a freeway among a lot of other cars is foolish if all you can do is hope your affirmations, essential oils or deep breathing will work when your life truly is in deep danger from your severe anxiety. The klonopin worked, and I was able to have jobs and travel the country.
Your totally Right I'm highly medicated and it kills the what if!!! You wouldn't medicate prof Dawkins or some one of high regards
This is NOT a normal anxiety! Why don’t dr’s get it......0n going panic 24/7
You don't get it. You have been brainwash it exist. Can you scientifically prove anxiety disorder? It's all fallacies.
@Lia N. Gkasouka Drugs don't help at all. The drugs destroy your entire body, the drugs are neuro toxins made in laboratories. The ingredients come from.... well no one even knows. There are 3 great pharmaceuticals, rest is garbage.
we need more drugs not less. I want a drug every time I feel the slightest discomfort because being a human being should be happy happy all the time.
Hahaha...that is not the human condition. You cannot just have positive emotions - because positive and negative emotions are just two sides of the same coin. You cannot have one without the other.
I find a lot of this person’s claims to be dubious. Anxiety hasn’t been a fuel to get anything accomplished for me. I think they’re falling into the simplistic trap here
Einstein was very distracted in class.
@pahotiwellness - Einstein is not much of an example - he was an actor and not a real scientist.
@@mo-end-times-info Find one person that agrees with you :).
ok so common sense. So why is your field creating so many little weirdos that used to be normal? you all just keep your mouth shut and let it happen. cuz your not accountable.