It's funny when you find out that folks pointed out that on the early trailers of this game, the double-barrel (Coach) ejected "unspent" whole rounds when reloading. And Bethesda's response was a slapdash solution which removed the entire animation and meshes of spent shells ejecting out of the shotgun, making the ammo disappear inside the gun entirely when fired, and then just labeling the ammo for the shotgun "Caseless Shotgun" ammunition to justify the change. 😅
The Battle of Little Big Horn is a great example of the deficiencies of a straight walled cartridge. Many of the 7th Cav's trapdoor Springfield broke off half a casing in the chamber when they started to heat up from sustained firing, preventing reloading. The metallurgy of the time didn't help either, the cartridges were mostly copper and thinner walled than the .45-70 rounds we can buy today are.
Clint Smith from Thunder Ranch covered this and mentioned finding many broken knife tips ostensibly from soldiers attempting to dig out empty cases. Also the leather pouches they'd carry ammo in weren't weatherproof
@@brawler5760 Nope. It was the incompetence of one of his officers who had previously served on Ordnance Board and was a major decision maker in the adoption of the trapdoor Springfield over a lever action rifle with no other reasoning than it was more cost effective and "more reliable" even though the lever action had just proved it's worth and reliability in the Civil War. Custer understandably left his Gatling guns behind because they wouldn't be able to keep up with the fast, horseborne force they were chasing. They were outclassed and overpowered by a smarter opponent with better guns though and having artillery or Gatlings wouldn't have been likely to save them since they were trapped in lower ground.
@@wolfehoffmann2697The battle of Little Bighorn can still serve as a prime illustration of the design flaws of the Springfield and the cartridges , even amidst the more significant factors contributing to the American military's defeat. While it's true that Native Americans possessed superior firearms, employed better strategies, and Custer's failure to heed Bloody Knife's advice was dumb, the fact that the casings were getting stuck in the chamber wasn't a nonfactor
I was also under the impression that the .45-70 was being used alongside the .50-70 cartridge leading to stuck casings when soldiers loaded the newer .45-70 into older .50-70 Trapdoor rifles.
From looking at the MP7's magazines, I can tell that the 4.6x30mm, unlike it's competitor 5.7x28mm, is tapered. Now I understand a reason why H&K never offered an MP7 rechambered in 5.7x28mm beyond having a gun with only proprietary ammo.
4.6x30 was born as a direct competitor to 5.7x28. Both rounds were developed for use in their respective PDW platforms. For FN that was the P90. For H&K that was the MP7. Neither platform ended up finding much success. It's only been in the last couple of years that the 5.7x28 finally started getting wider adoption from the likes of Ruger, S&W, PSA and CMMG developing pistols and carbines chambered in it. To date the only other platform I know of besides the MP7 that is chambered in 4.6x30 is the CMMG Banshee or w/e they changed it to when they decided to alter their product naming scheme. H&K is mostly prevented by the German government from exporting products to civilian markets. Also, they as a company don't seem to have any particular interest in serving the civilian market in general even if they could (ie setting up foreign factories as they have done in the USA) . They will never release an MP7 for the civilian market let alone make one chambered in 5.7 . They don't have any reason to do so. Especially since companies like B&T are the ones that have been winning military contracts for sub gun/pcc/pdw platforms of late.
My goodness, Zach dunks on himself so much, your drawing skills are fine man, you got the point across, you're a smart guy with great hands for drawing with a computer mouse
You know Zach, (I don't know if you see this) but you should make a series of gun rants. Just a video of you geeking about guns and the history of them, the issues that bother you with guns, and if you see someones comment about a topic you want to talk about. And just let loose on your knowledge of guns and other topics.
Imagine if an actual firearm manufacturer or videogame company listened to these gun rants from a practically-learned enthusiast, they might manage to make something truly amazing in their products.
yeah, this is also why lots of drum magazines are smaller where the front tips of the bullets rest, and the larger where the backside of the bullets rest, and on larger calibers the drum magazines actually have a curved portion where it actually enters the magazine well
The biggest lesson I learned from this video was how obnoxious it seems to be to use Paint 3D. Also, I wish Starfield did the same thing as Fallout 4 where ammo would display an individual model of a whole cartridge instead of a box if there was only one round in the inventory.
funnily enough, and i'm not criticizing Zach's Explanation as it explains everything well enough, the best example to use to demonstration how bullets are tapered would have been rifle clips used back in WW2, specifically for the Mouser 98 and the Mosin-Nagant rifles.
It was definitely the Army that almost adopted the LSAT machine gun and its case telescoped polymer ammunition. The requirements for the most recent NGSW bid were basically the same and all Textron had to do was not screw it up. Then they lost to SIG because they messed up 😂😂😂
@@qwormuli77 are you serious? All the praise from the higher ups was going to Textron during the whole NGSW program. SIG was the underdog the whole time, and a lot of people were shocked they won.
@@Clockwork0nions Textron may have suffered from the Army's demand for modifications just to maintain the “traditional design”, and the SIG will win if it can maintain the “traditional design”, but Textron's design has some weaknesses, and that shell thrower is really not in a good position .
12:13 And here I thought caseless Minimi from ArmA 3 was something Bohemia Interactive made up to go along with general theme of lightly futuristic but still practical armament.
Thought one of the issues with caseless ammo, even CT ammo, was the case itself helped to remove some of the heat out of the system when it is ejected. Wonder how the guys making the LSAT took care of that problem.
Caseless ammo dumps heat directly into the chamber, but CT/polymer case ammo still has a case, make no mistake. The polymer is also a much, much, better insulator than brass or steel, leading to actually noticeably lower chamber temperatures during sustained fire and not higher. There's "caseless" and then there's caseless caseless.
One of the big reasons we didn't adopt the CT ammo for an LMG is that brass cases absorb a lot of heat, which is then ejected from the weapon mechanically instead of being absorbed by the gun itself. Polymer-cased ammo has a tendency to MELT when the chamber gets too hot. We had a slightly different issue with caseless ammo in that it would just start cooking off, with the guns going into a runaway state, no longer in the operator's control. Now, H&K did eventually fix this by switching to a propellant that needed higher temps to ignite, but the main failing of caseless ammo was that it was both expensive, and more fragile than brass-cased ammo. Consequently, given both the durability and thermal advantages of classic brass-cased ammunition, that's why we have stuck with it.
The modern telescoped rounds actually handled heat just fine. The reason the army chose to go with sigs offering over Textrons was likely due to the latters weapon being much less conventional because of the round, though we don't know for sure.
At least with more modern incarnations, you've got that completely the wrong way around. Polymer casing acts as an insulator between the powder and the chamber leading to dramatically less chamber heat during sustained firing. It's an oversimplification to say the least, but think of the casing as a thermos can between the hot stuff and your hands, when the hot stuff is emptied and you switch to a new can in your hands --a bare metal one would burn your hands much more. This actually even translates to thermodynamically more driving force for the same amount of powder, even if the increase is fairly minimal for everything I've gone through so far. The old CT polymers did allegedly have issues with longevity and fragility in cold temperatures, but (at least outside of the weapons industry) those issues have been fixed for decades. The decreased weight of the round also lessens durability requirements surprisingly much. You might have mixed that up with true caseless ammo (of which H&K g11 is probably the most stereotypical example), where the chamber heating up was a real issue.
Did you know it’s possible to reload .22 LR? It’s not worth it though because .22 LR is probably the cheapest firearm cartridge there is. You need this special centrifuge to spin the cartridge around so the primer fills out the bottom, and then you just load it like a normal round after. Also there’s lubricant on the .22 LR cases because of the fact that they’re not tapered.
I'd figure you could get by just packing some priming compound in the bottom with a toothpick and wetting it down with some rubbing alcohol like priming percussion caps.
The array guns are really cool, and have rapidly become some of my favorite guns in the game. They're all based on (I believe) the "Metalstorm" concept system that was all the rage in the early 2000's, but ultimately went nowhere.
@@Zachs_Hazards taking that concept and applying it to a revolver that is fully automatic is probably the most creative and ridiculous idea the developers had when it comes to guns in this game
@@Zachs_Hazards I also interpreted them as somewhat related to the FDM L4/L5 "ribbon gun" concept from more recently, which really doesn't have practical service rifle potential but is a neat tech demo/proof of concept imo
Wait... 5.7mm actually got a lubed round to work? Pedersen's toggle-lock Garand-competitor rifle tried it in the 30's with a waxed cartridge and couldn't get it to work.
Waxing the rounds did actually work. The problem was that during testing they didn't use waxed rounds as "somehow" waxing the rounds was too difficult. Ian did a few vids on em though idk about 5.7 specifically. Either way somehow making a dipping machine for waxed rounds was too hard.
Teflon coated rounds always worked. The problem is we don't have them on the market anymore because anti-gun retards convinced lawmakers and hollywood that teflon somehow increases the armor penetration of a bullet. You'll hear it all the time in 1990s media being called dumb shit like "cop killer bullets."
Yea for pistols it isn’t as big of an issue but for any SMG that uses 5.7 if they are not using lubercated ammo they will become bolt-action. Its also funny to compare the effectiveness of 5.7 versus 7.62x25 because the Tokarev cartridge is really close at being just as effective without the need for lubercation. Unintentionally too, the Tokarev cartridge was replaced because the bullet always blew through people (and armor) without tumbling or doing an acceptable amount of internal damage.
I'm not surprised that ammo is still weightless, but I am disappointed. A thing I really liked about hardcore mode in New Vegas is it made the most powerful weapons in the game a trade-off. And it meant looting ammo was a decision, you didn't just hoover it all up because it was basically currency like it is here and in Fallout 3/4. Seriously, in Fallout 3 I used to have so many thousands of 5.56mm rounds on me at any given time I could buy anything I needed purely by throwing surplus bullets at them. I wonder if a human being could even carry 3,000 rounds of 5.56?
Its funny the malestorm uses cases ammo.....yet the magazine still has a intense curve A advantage of caseless ammo not needing ejection as the case is also the propellent or its burned up during firing and many guns in the game show this off pretty cool
What really makes me laugh is that they just took an AK and made a skin that has all these Elysium modifications to it so you think it's doing something cool maybe has one of those futuristic propulsion sounds, but no it's just an automatic gun that is overly bulky and quite frankly looks absolutely retarded and pointless. They really insult these "players" that buy the game by just giving them "tacticool" or sci fi guns that have no business being there and make no sense in their form let alone function.
the straight walled case issue is the reason the 5.7x28 has a DRY LUBRICANT on it to aid in extraction. Besides the case neck and shoulder, the main body is straight walled. and he just talked about that, I should really listen to the whole thing before commenting
Wow, watching the beginning and seeing Zach snap to and laser enemies is weird, after so long of watching him fumble about with a controller whenever he records with Mike.
the one thing that CT ammo piqued my interest is how the ammo is shorter, you know MSMC/JVPC from india? with what is essentially just a shotened down 5.56? been having ideas with those two lately
I wish I had someone to argue the merits/demerits of CT ammunition. I make ammunition for a living and even my coworkers look at my like I'm insane when I bring it up.
the people desigining these guns in games tend to be going off nothing but pictures and the occasional airsoft gun, and what they personally think would look cool
Zach, have you considered being a teacher´? At least about guns and such? You know your stuff and I dunno if its something you would enjoy or not, but I know you'd be making a few more individuals a lot more responsible at least.
Sucks that the guns in starfield still look like dysfunctional trash. Seems like there were designers who knew their stuff (the ones who got all these different ammo types represented in the game) but the artists and animators still don't know what a real functional firearm looks like.
So... they couldn't put the 10mm submachine gun in Fallout 4 where it belongs, but we get it in Starfield with a different name.
Yes
Starfields does a lot of things with its guns that are interesting
I've been annoyed about that for years!
Well the 10mm SMG did came back.... In Fallout 76 sadly
Man this Zach guy knows his guns, he should join the military
I bet he’d have great and happy stories, specifically about the Bradley vehicle.
I'm sure he'll emerge from his training with healthy habits for mind and body, and make wonderful memories there!
I bet he'd get a cool nickname like "Highspeed"
I’ll bet he will have no incidents whatsoever involving cabinets that would change him for the rest of his life.
I bet he'd do great in a forward support company.
It's funny when you find out that folks pointed out that on the early trailers of this game, the double-barrel (Coach) ejected "unspent" whole rounds when reloading. And Bethesda's response was a slapdash solution which removed the entire animation and meshes of spent shells ejecting out of the shotgun, making the ammo disappear inside the gun entirely when fired, and then just labeling the ammo for the shotgun "Caseless Shotgun" ammunition to justify the change. 😅
It a clever solution in my opinion. The shogun was too future looking to be using normal shells.
And not just unspent whole rounds, but whole rifle rounds - bullet and all - rather than shotgun cartridges.
Also had square chambers, for round shells. The whole thing was borked.
@@Vherstinae They're just firing the whole bullet. That's 65% more bullet per bullet.
Amusingly enough that's only in first person. In third person they eject the entire caseless ammo box like before
I like how Zach's Gun Rants are more like Zach's Chill Gun Lessons when Mike isn't around to rile him up.
The Battle of Little Big Horn is a great example of the deficiencies of a straight walled cartridge. Many of the 7th Cav's trapdoor Springfield broke off half a casing in the chamber when they started to heat up from sustained firing, preventing reloading. The metallurgy of the time didn't help either, the cartridges were mostly copper and thinner walled than the .45-70 rounds we can buy today are.
Clint Smith from Thunder Ranch covered this and mentioned finding many broken knife tips ostensibly from soldiers attempting to dig out empty cases. Also the leather pouches they'd carry ammo in weren't weatherproof
So it wasn’t just General Custer’s incompetence that led to it being a massacre.
@@brawler5760 Nope. It was the incompetence of one of his officers who had previously served on Ordnance Board and was a major decision maker in the adoption of the trapdoor Springfield over a lever action rifle with no other reasoning than it was more cost effective and "more reliable" even though the lever action had just proved it's worth and reliability in the Civil War. Custer understandably left his Gatling guns behind because they wouldn't be able to keep up with the fast, horseborne force they were chasing. They were outclassed and overpowered by a smarter opponent with better guns though and having artillery or Gatlings wouldn't have been likely to save them since they were trapped in lower ground.
@@wolfehoffmann2697The battle of Little Bighorn can still serve as a prime illustration of the design flaws of the Springfield and the cartridges , even amidst the more significant factors contributing to the American military's defeat. While it's true that Native Americans possessed superior firearms, employed better strategies, and Custer's failure to heed Bloody Knife's advice was dumb, the fact that the casings were getting stuck in the chamber wasn't a nonfactor
I was also under the impression that the .45-70 was being used alongside the .50-70 cartridge leading to stuck casings when soldiers loaded the newer .45-70 into older .50-70 Trapdoor rifles.
From looking at the MP7's magazines, I can tell that the 4.6x30mm, unlike it's competitor 5.7x28mm, is tapered. Now I understand a reason why H&K never offered an MP7 rechambered in 5.7x28mm beyond having a gun with only proprietary ammo.
4.6x30 was born as a direct competitor to 5.7x28.
Both rounds were developed for use in their respective PDW platforms.
For FN that was the P90.
For H&K that was the MP7.
Neither platform ended up finding much success.
It's only been in the last couple of years that the 5.7x28 finally started getting wider adoption from the likes of Ruger, S&W, PSA and CMMG developing pistols and carbines chambered in it.
To date the only other platform I know of besides the MP7 that is chambered in 4.6x30 is the CMMG Banshee or w/e they changed it to when they decided to alter their product naming scheme.
H&K is mostly prevented by the German government from exporting products to civilian markets. Also, they as a company don't seem to have any particular interest in serving the civilian market in general even if they could (ie setting up foreign factories as they have done in the USA) . They will never release an MP7 for the civilian market let alone make one chambered in 5.7 . They don't have any reason to do so. Especially since companies like B&T are the ones that have been winning military contracts for sub gun/pcc/pdw platforms of late.
My goodness, Zach dunks on himself so much, your drawing skills are fine man, you got the point across, you're a smart guy with great hands for drawing with a computer mouse
You know Zach, (I don't know if you see this) but you should make a series of gun rants. Just a video of you geeking about guns and the history of them, the issues that bother you with guns, and if you see someones comment about a topic you want to talk about. And just let loose on your knowledge of guns and other topics.
Imagine if an actual firearm manufacturer or videogame company listened to these gun rants from a practically-learned enthusiast, they might manage to make something truly amazing in their products.
He could even talk about the best and most futuristic shotgun ever made: The PankorJackhammer!
Well I think that they should move here gun rants from Mike's channel over here too...
yeah, this is also why lots of drum magazines are smaller where the front tips of the bullets rest, and the larger where the backside of the bullets rest, and on larger calibers the drum magazines actually have a curved portion where it actually enters the magazine well
The taper also makes the chamber far more resistant to fouling - the casings will actually dent in and still seat.
nobody: my 450 bushmaster getting a round stuck in the chamber.
me: "time to struggle"
The biggest lesson I learned from this video was how obnoxious it seems to be to use Paint 3D. Also, I wish Starfield did the same thing as Fallout 4 where ammo would display an individual model of a whole cartridge instead of a box if there was only one round in the inventory.
10:10 this is why some of the early centerfire rifles needed you to spit on the bullets to get them to come out of the gun especially after fouling
Cased ammo is actually in a lot of prototypes, the HSTV-L used a 75mm ARES cannon, firing APFSDS ammo at ~120 rounds per minute.
If you say HSTV-L 5 times in the mirror, an Ohio gay furry will pop up behind you and give you a lecture on the HSTV-L.
#Spookstonmoment
funnily enough, and i'm not criticizing Zach's Explanation as it explains everything well enough, the best example to use to demonstration how bullets are tapered would have been rifle clips used back in WW2, specifically for the Mouser 98 and the Mosin-Nagant rifles.
We love your tangents!
It was definitely the Army that almost adopted the LSAT machine gun and its case telescoped polymer ammunition. The requirements for the most recent NGSW bid were basically the same and all Textron had to do was not screw it up.
Then they lost to SIG because they messed up 😂😂😂
God, I haven't thought about the LSAT in years. What a weirdly charming gun.
Well, less about messing up and more about SIG being the all-but predetermined winner and with the more traditional offering, to boot. No way to lose.
@@qwormuli77
are you serious? All the praise from the higher ups was going to Textron during the whole NGSW program. SIG was the underdog the whole time, and a lot of people were shocked they won.
@@Clockwork0nions Textron may have suffered from the Army's demand for modifications just to maintain the “traditional design”, and the SIG will win if it can maintain the “traditional design”, but Textron's design has some weaknesses, and that shell thrower is really not in a good position .
Bethesda should put round cookoff into the next patch.
We def need more Zach's gun rants. Even if it just Zach rants about historical guns or future guns, or gun design, etc. Just more rants.
12:13 And here I thought caseless Minimi from ArmA 3 was something Bohemia Interactive made up to go along with general theme of lightly futuristic but still practical armament.
Thought one of the issues with caseless ammo, even CT ammo, was the case itself helped to remove some of the heat out of the system when it is ejected. Wonder how the guys making the LSAT took care of that problem.
Caseless ammo dumps heat directly into the chamber, but CT/polymer case ammo still has a case, make no mistake. The polymer is also a much, much, better insulator than brass or steel, leading to actually noticeably lower chamber temperatures during sustained fire and not higher.
There's "caseless" and then there's caseless caseless.
One of the big reasons we didn't adopt the CT ammo for an LMG is that brass cases absorb a lot of heat, which is then ejected from the weapon mechanically instead of being absorbed by the gun itself. Polymer-cased ammo has a tendency to MELT when the chamber gets too hot. We had a slightly different issue with caseless ammo in that it would just start cooking off, with the guns going into a runaway state, no longer in the operator's control. Now, H&K did eventually fix this by switching to a propellant that needed higher temps to ignite, but the main failing of caseless ammo was that it was both expensive, and more fragile than brass-cased ammo.
Consequently, given both the durability and thermal advantages of classic brass-cased ammunition, that's why we have stuck with it.
The modern telescoped rounds actually handled heat just fine. The reason the army chose to go with sigs offering over Textrons was likely due to the latters weapon being much less conventional because of the round, though we don't know for sure.
At least with more modern incarnations, you've got that completely the wrong way around. Polymer casing acts as an insulator between the powder and the chamber leading to dramatically less chamber heat during sustained firing. It's an oversimplification to say the least, but think of the casing as a thermos can between the hot stuff and your hands, when the hot stuff is emptied and you switch to a new can in your hands --a bare metal one would burn your hands much more. This actually even translates to thermodynamically more driving force for the same amount of powder, even if the increase is fairly minimal for everything I've gone through so far. The old CT polymers did allegedly have issues with longevity and fragility in cold temperatures, but (at least outside of the weapons industry) those issues have been fixed for decades. The decreased weight of the round also lessens durability requirements surprisingly much.
You might have mixed that up with true caseless ammo (of which H&K g11 is probably the most stereotypical example), where the chamber heating up was a real issue.
Did you know it’s possible to reload .22 LR? It’s not worth it though because .22 LR is probably the cheapest firearm cartridge there is. You need this special centrifuge to spin the cartridge around so the primer fills out the bottom, and then you just load it like a normal round after. Also there’s lubricant on the .22 LR cases because of the fact that they’re not tapered.
I'd figure you could get by just packing some priming compound in the bottom with a toothpick and wetting it down with some rubbing alcohol like priming percussion caps.
Do a rant on Caseless next
please
I mean it makes sense for space
I cant wait for the rant on the keelhauler when you find it
Any of the array guns would be wild to hear about tbh
The array guns are really cool, and have rapidly become some of my favorite guns in the game. They're all based on (I believe) the "Metalstorm" concept system that was all the rage in the early 2000's, but ultimately went nowhere.
@@Zachs_Hazards taking that concept and applying it to a revolver that is fully automatic is probably the most creative and ridiculous idea the developers had when it comes to guns in this game
@@Zachs_Hazards I also interpreted them as somewhat related to the FDM L4/L5 "ribbon gun" concept from more recently, which really doesn't have practical service rifle potential but is a neat tech demo/proof of concept imo
Respect the level of detail and knowledge.
Wait... 5.7mm actually got a lubed round to work? Pedersen's toggle-lock Garand-competitor rifle tried it in the 30's with a waxed cartridge and couldn't get it to work.
Waxing the rounds did actually work. The problem was that during testing they didn't use waxed rounds as "somehow" waxing the rounds was too difficult. Ian did a few vids on em though idk about 5.7 specifically. Either way somehow making a dipping machine for waxed rounds was too hard.
Teflon coated rounds always worked. The problem is we don't have them on the market anymore because anti-gun retards convinced lawmakers and hollywood that teflon somehow increases the armor penetration of a bullet. You'll hear it all the time in 1990s media being called dumb shit like "cop killer bullets."
Yea for pistols it isn’t as big of an issue but for any SMG that uses 5.7 if they are not using lubercated ammo they will become bolt-action. Its also funny to compare the effectiveness of 5.7 versus 7.62x25 because the Tokarev cartridge is really close at being just as effective without the need for lubercation. Unintentionally too, the Tokarev cartridge was replaced because the bullet always blew through people (and armor) without tumbling or doing an acceptable amount of internal damage.
@@Dunkopf My guess is the heat from melting the wax risked setting off the rounds, though why you couldn't wipe it on I'm not sure.
I'm not surprised that ammo is still weightless, but I am disappointed. A thing I really liked about hardcore mode in New Vegas is it made the most powerful weapons in the game a trade-off. And it meant looting ammo was a decision, you didn't just hoover it all up because it was basically currency like it is here and in Fallout 3/4. Seriously, in Fallout 3 I used to have so many thousands of 5.56mm rounds on me at any given time I could buy anything I needed purely by throwing surplus bullets at them. I wonder if a human being could even carry 3,000 rounds of 5.56?
What, you didn't have your own dakka brahmin to haul all of that combustible cash?
Its funny the malestorm uses cases ammo.....yet the magazine still has a intense curve
A advantage of caseless ammo not needing ejection as the case is also the propellent or its burned up during firing and many guns in the game show this off pretty cool
8mm lebel has entered the chat.
I love these gun rants, Zach! Hope you are doing well!
What really makes me laugh is that they just took an AK and made a skin that has all these Elysium modifications to it so you think it's doing something cool maybe has one of those futuristic propulsion sounds, but no it's just an automatic gun that is overly bulky and quite frankly looks absolutely retarded and pointless. They really insult these "players" that buy the game by just giving them "tacticool" or sci fi guns that have no business being there and make no sense in their form let alone function.
I actually really appreciated that bit of education!
the straight walled case issue is the reason the 5.7x28 has a DRY LUBRICANT on it to aid in extraction. Besides the case neck and shoulder, the main body is straight walled.
and he just talked about that, I should really listen to the whole thing before commenting
Welcome to Zach's Used Gun Facts store.
Don't let him see Warframe weapons
I thought 5.7's poly coating was due to friction within the mag? Tho, I doubt it would hurt extraction either.
Like a pizza, just like how square cut pizza sucks
The Drum Beat is just a fancy AR15 with a Hera Arms Gen 1 CQR stock and foregrip. I wish it did more damage.
Wow, watching the beginning and seeing Zach snap to and laser enemies is weird, after so long of watching him fumble about with a controller whenever he records with Mike.
I assume Mike's the one playing, not Zach in those videos
i just want to know the biggest boomstick zach has shot.
Either the Benelli M4 or the Remington 870 with the 14” barrel.
Is this why the old style Famas Magazine has the weird [=\ style mag?
Yes, and original M16 20rd mags
Glad to see other people other than me know these things, especially when gaming too
the one thing that CT ammo piqued my interest is how the ammo is shorter, you know MSMC/JVPC from india? with what is essentially just a shotened down 5.56? been having ideas with those two lately
the use of 3D paint and him having to reselect the line tool for EVERY GOD DAMN LINE hurts me on so many levels
Oh yes, I can finally get more of my gun rant addiction fix.
I always thought it was to help line things up as it went in (like the neck) but it’s actually the opposite.
Have you seen those warriors from Sol? They have curved magazines... CURVED. MAGAZINES.
I wish I had someone to argue the merits/demerits of CT ammunition. I make ammunition for a living and even my coworkers look at my like I'm insane when I bring it up.
“I’m getting off a whole fucking tangent”
We don’t care it’s interesting
the people desigining these guns in games tend to be going off nothing but pictures and the occasional airsoft gun, and what they personally think would look cool
one of the few good things about Starfield.
Lol A long and DRAWN OUT way, huh?
Never understood the reason for curved mags
Zach’s golden Freddy from fnaf
I'm all for a Space Galil ACE though
Galil SpACE
I hope he makes his own line of really stupid weapons so that he can rant about them
He gets so many views, but nobody subs
I thought this was Cyberpunk for a second. Should they play Cyberpunk?
Old finninsh army rifle used soviet ammunition and allmost every weapon system we have can shoot russian ammo
Zach, have you considered being a teacher´? At least about guns and such? You know your stuff and I dunno if its something you would enjoy or not, but I know you'd be making a few more individuals a lot more responsible at least.
That was basically his job at first once he got out of the military- he was a civilian instructor for small arms repair guys for some amount of time.
There is a god and he has blessed us.
Sucks that the guns in starfield still look like dysfunctional trash. Seems like there were designers who knew their stuff (the ones who got all these different ammo types represented in the game) but the artists and animators still don't know what a real functional firearm looks like.
20 round ar are straight...zach proving ak is gay XD
i like illegal knowlege of gun stuff
haha
I hate the new MSPaint
you are TOO DAMN QUIET! i had to turn my volume all the way up to hear this rant.
zack doesnt get to rant about guns. zach is a liberal.