I have 4 Seikos and 1 Tissot. I love all my Seiko watches, but if I could keep only one, I'd pick my Tissot over my Seikos or a Citizen. My Seikos: Sarb033 Cocktail Time (Ice Blue) 5KX (with custom bezel) SNKL23 My Tissot: Gentlemen Powermatic (Blue dial)
Well done Jodie and well done Citizen. My oldest Citizen, a BM6400 is still going strong and is 15 years old now. I have six Citizen s and my teenage son has two. All are faultless, so God to see the brand getting some recognition.
@sotecluxan4221 I have a Quartz OMEGA SMP bought in 2006, it's just needed a battery now and then ( albeit, not cheap!) I also have an Auto Planet Ocean. It's broken down a few times and needed major servicing. 6 Citizens just keep ticking...
I bought the normal one with a green dial. Different league, than any of my Seikos. Titanium is awesome. This is the first time I've experienced having a full titanium watch and I have to say, that I can't imagine going back to stainless steel from now on.
Beautiful chronograph! Citizen doesn't take a back seat to anyone in their price ranges. They make the most accurate watch. They make the best solar. They make great automatic movements via Miyota. I have an Eco-Drive and it is a nearly perfect watch. Citizen - for those who know. Cheers!
I’ve been a huge fan of Citizen since I bought the original Orca years ago. It is still running strong with no issues. I really love their dive watches and have numerous.
To me, titanium is the best material to make a watch out of. I just don't get the notion that weight equals quality. Citizen were the first company to use titanium, so they do have a considerable amount of experience with it now, hence this great looking piece Jody has. Tempting.
True, but remember, you are not seeing the actual dial, but footage of the dial taken by a camera, comoressed by youtube and displayed by your device screen.
Nope. There's barely any green at all in that blue. The only way that color can be classified as "teal" is by looking at a teal spectrum chart and going all the way to the left, and then having camera/displaying issues. It's at most turquoise. It's nice, don't get me wrong. It's just not teal is all. Peace. 🙂
Citizen shows everyone else how consistently the second hand can hit the indices and I love it! Looking forward to you getting hold of one of the new Seiko Pogues... Cheers!
Citizen is doing good things here lately. I go with what works at one time I was a Ford man now a Chevrolet, Man. I used to drink Coke now I go to Pepsi. Whatever works I’m loyal to quality and value
A pressed titanium clasp is actually kind of an engineering feat. It might be old tech but pressing titanium vs steel is still challenging. My only gripe is the lack of on-the-fly adjustment.
I laughed out loud when I saw your preview thumbnail. I’ve been really pleased with my first Citizen (the entrancing NB1060-12L) and a new Tsuyosa that also has a striking dial should arrive any time now. I'm intrigued by the Forza line because of the impressively polished titanium and I hope to get one at some point.
I’m wearing my Citizen Blue Angels Special Edition, with EcoDrive, and it’s my everyday watch and gets plenty of compliments on its looks, but I know it’s better than just looks. 👍🇨🇦
love citizen watches and love Eco-Drive even more! Thanks for showing this model off. I am always looking for another Eco-Drive to add to the collection or gift to someone. Its such a durable movement and you can basically set and forget. I do wish it was 38-40mm though ..
The same movement appears in the Jacques Lemans 50-1 (same color, 42mm, steel) for around 499 Euros. This was my choice, because I´m not into titanium. Nice reviev, Jddy, as always, thanks for that 👍👍👍
What about a Citizen vs Seiko shootout across the range? Promaster vs Seiko 5/ Samurai/ Sho-gurai for divers, this for GADAs, speedtimer vs eco-drive etc. I think Citizen is the new budget king!
That colour will always be PD1734 turquoise to me! 😉 I'll get ma coat...... Seiko my favourite from that trio, but the light weight of the Citizen would make it more suited to my skinny wee wrists. Says the woman who can get away with my much loved Casio Duro(s) because my wrists, though both under 5¾ inches in circumference, are quite flat, so providing a stable place for big watches to sit.😊
Yep. Chronos have run their course. Solid, reliable, clear, attractive watches are where it's at now. Unnecessary bulk and never-used "functionality" (divers & chronos mainly) died over a year ago.
Thanks for finally reviewing some of these solar-titanium watches. The most similar product Casio has is the Oceanus series. Can't go wrong with either (I own both types).
Perfect cover poster for this video. I'm a huge fan of citizen watches. It's an underestimated brand. Thanks for giving it some attention. I will be definitely buying the Forza.
I have the automatic version and I love it. The "white" dial is really more of a silver, it kind of goes back and forth depending on how the light hits it. The alternating brush and polish on the bracelet makes it catch light in a fantastic way as it moves. The only change I'd make is give it the Tsuyosa small seconds dial layout--dateless with small seconds at 6 o'clock instead of the asymmetric design.
Oof. Lovely watch, but the width of the case will prevent the acquisition. That chronograph in a lovely 40mm case would be awesomeness. Nonetheless, she’s beautiful.
This makes a lot more sense to me than those Chinese mechanical chronographs, I wouldn't have to donate any organs to maintain this lol. I'm not enthused about the chunkiness or titanium, but I'd love to get SOME sort of solar chronograph from Citizen or Seiko.
A mechanical Chrono would be fun, and those are just not affordable except from China But if there's a problem, it will probably have to be pitched. Chronographs are just not practical when run from regular batteries. They eat batteries rapidly if you actually make all those hands do something regularly. I am speaking from experience. So solar is the right answer for chronos, unless one wants to spend a pile of money.
I got the small seconds automatic in blue. It’s my first automatic watch and I love everything about it. I have small wrists so I’m happy that it wears much smaller than the 40mm prx which I tried on my wrist as well.
I'm wearing a Citizen now. Great value, well made, an easy equation. They don't need to chase Seiko and others, they just need to keep making their own quality items. There are a lot of models that have caught my eye recently. They also make some really functional dive watches. Love the eco-drive. They seem to be making some really good looking dials as of late and are seemingly getting out of the habit of overcrowding the dial.
Yeah Had mine in a couple of days So glad that you’re reviewing this model! And yess this is my first citizen, after buying tons of seiko’s and i really impressed by the forza chrono
Love Citizen Eco-drive but their fixed bezel sports styles are usually just too big. If they made more 38/39 mm options they would sell a ton more watches. One of the new Forza range is 39mm, so maybe the message is getting through at last.
I love my Citizen Chrono with Eco Drive from 2015 and my Promaster Automatic NY0085 i bought in February 2024. Next will be the Fujitsubo, a great Watch.
Best value watch on the market now. Titanium and textured dial. Two things you don't get from Seiko for this price. If I could have any new watch I would take this in the ecodrive non Chronograph form. I despise 99 percent of watches because of their weight. Most watches feel like wearing a cellphone or mountain bike to me. So this is one of the only watches I would buy other than nordgren or skagen and actually wear it.
Great vid. I bought a Pagani chrono for around $90 CDN. It looks fabulous and while it isn’t Ti or eco drive it is hard in my mind to justify the massive price difference particularly given the compromises like the clasp! My collection is getting a little silly size wise and the Pagani chrono still gets lots of wrist time. Thanks as always Jody!!
Citizens coming into its own this past couple years! This has reflected in my collection! Jody you should do the nb1050 in blue it’s just a killer watch and the last skx competition left unuttered
If Seiko made a Solar titanium, with sapphire crystal, it would be priced at £1000! Seikos prices on the second hand market is almost half price in some cases! (I picked up a virtually new seiko 1965, for £500 - half the price!) Citizen is literally trumping over Seiko, and I hope they continue. This Citizen is Beautiful! - Thanks for the tip Jody, I'll picked one up!
My biggest concern with Seiko is the QC and spec of dust that are all too common inside the glass, and the infamous alignment issues... Citizen QC is mostly above par
I bought a Citizen NH9130. Under $300. 40mm dress watch with SAPPHIRE. Only two lines of text, open heart with a textured dial done well. Hacking and handwinding. Absolute bang for the buck dress watch. I would suggest you look at it Jody. Great video as always!
Great review.. I've always preferred Citizen to Seiko.. Any chance you our going to review the Citizen Promaster Land 35th anniversary JV1008-63E soon??
I own about 5 citizens and all are ecodrive and one ny0040 auto. All of them are extremely precise, robust and well built years in. Prices are also a steal compared to Seiko, whats not to like. QC usually is better too.
Citizen is innovating and Orient is doing its traditional "bread and butter" that absolutely works. Both brands are pricing correctly. Seiko, on the other hand...
6 year warranty if you register. Not into the examples referred to. How about a stiletto at 4mm wide quarz at least the £300 (they made a 2mm thick one) or the most accurate watch ever ( 0100 movement, again more expensive, but unbeaten).
Seiko used to offer value series especially SKX & 5 series. Citizen always provides higher price tier models and even until now. So it actually churns out models that cost the same just that Seiko have increased the price. Orient still has best value offer, esp with sapphire crystals for Kamasu series including the solar chronograph model.
I agree that today Citizen watches are better values than Seiko. And I like this watch. Still not the sub $200 USD value of days gone past. I enjoy my Citizen Nighthawk that is 20 years old. A new capacitor (battery) and an upgrade to a sapphire crystal. I'll probably get another 20 years out of it. In the meantime I build custom watches with NH35 movements. What do I need a Seiko logo on the dial for?
100% agree with your intro! Citizen really are on a roll!,, think I had one citizen in my modest collection for years .....but eyeing at least 3-4 potential citizen purchases- and now this one( this channel is very bad for my wallet😢)...😊
Jody, I was the one that brought this one up on club Erebus and asked for a review (my name is not Mike smith :) ). So glad you got it. I have the panda seitona and I like both the Seiko and citizen for different reasons. I LOVED the citizen when I saw it in the store and even though I have the Seiko, I am excited to eventually get one of the forzas. Lastly…. I would totally trade my quartz PRX for the forza!!!!!
Thanks for the great review. I been eyeing the Forza watch for some time. Love the color that you have or the dark Blue dial. Just trying to figure which movement to get. Also want to wait for some sort of Holiday Sale.
Lucky that the 3 handers are both smaller than this chrono. Both the auto & the eco-drive are 39mm to 40mm so more likely to fit a greater range of people. Shame they are taking so long to get down to Australasia.
Never been a fan of citizen, but I like where they’re heading with a couple of their latest releases, but I still prefer my Tiff….ah ice blue speedtimer. But I’m keen to try the small seconds version of this one.
Absolutely love the small seconds Tsuyosa you reviewed a few months back. That greenish blue goes with absolutely every blue thing I own. Gorgeous and 60 hours power reserve. I love Citizen. Seiko is so meh these days...
Yes, I have bought from MaMaCoo more than once. I even bought a new Omega Speedmaster which came with the fancy box and packaging. I am thrilled with all my purchases here. I would purchase from MaMaCoo again for sure.
Not watched the video yet, but yes, Citizen are on it at the moment. Undercutting on price and out in front with designs. They're on the way up for sure.
Recently got hands on with one of these in Canada. Great looking watch but the titanium was too light for my liking and the bracelet felt really cheap. Definitely wears well though and felt great on my 7.5” wrist.
Ben’s Watch Club did a test on the duratect coating… it fared no better than 316L SS from memory so the only real benefit you’re getting from the Ti in this instance is the weight reduction 🤷♂️
Isn't that supposed to be the point of the coating: To hopefully make titanium at least close to stainless steel in long term wear? I have seen plenty of titanium watches that just looked awful after a few years. I would be very impressed if a treated or coated titanium could do as well as stainless steel. I still do not trust that this is truly and practically possible.
@@wendyandgeoffpattison2610 Ok. That is fair. I believe most people that I have heard from who buy titanium are looking for lighter weight. Like I said, titanium has always had a bad association in my mind with watches that looked nice when new but looked absolutely destroyed after a few years. I should think you would be very happy to get titanium that holds up as well as stainless steel.
It is hard to judge just how good Citizen watches are as they keep the best ones for the JDM only. I suspect many potential buyers are like me and just will not take the risk of buying JDM due to warranty / servicing problems.
So when are we getting an Erebus Ascent in 36 mm? My suggestions for colorways are Salmon, Tiffany, and Lavender in addition to the enamel colors of the 39mm version.
Citizen do some seriously good watches and they seem more professional than Seiko.The QC is spot on! I have the Titanium 'Ray Mears' field watch and it's amazing. Monobloc, light, plenty of WR and a very sturdy yet wearable Kavlar strap (also comes with Titanium bracelet but costs 5o quid more). Subtle watch and no one would know how complex it is. Citizen have really embraced Titanium and are doing great things with it! Thanks Jody. And I do think the watch looks good on you.
I've only been interested in watches for a few years now and I've never quite understood where the hype for Seiko came from. I have several Eco-Drive watches from Citizen and every single one works flawlessly, including my favorite Nighthawk. Meanwhile, the first solar I bought from Seiko had a dead battery, and after replacing it lasted a year and then died again. My friend also had problems with Seiko quality. And when I wanted to buy a Willard reissue and checked the price - 1200 EUR, I fell off my chair. Seiko is either having a laugh or draining our wallets, while Citizen simply offers great watches. The choice for me is obvious.
This has been my thought for a few years (citizen=value and Seiko hit and miss), since covid started really, when I bought a couple Seiko's in a wine infused haze during lockdown, and they were sup par, mis aligned, varying bezel friction, expensive, etc....the Citizens I picked up were perfecto. Ill always have a Monster and a Samurai, (the classics) but nothing new in years has excited me at Seiko. I could see Seiko ebb and flow in quality over the years since the late 90s. The crystals, the alignments, the finish were all excellent when I got into watches, then mid 2000's I noticed the same Chrono's with inferior crystal, hit and miss dials, just cheaper feeling all around. I think they have picked their game up now that all the watch geeks converge and collaborate. But, as you mentioned, the price tier has changed dramatically. Thus, the Citizen has a nice niche to fill.
Citizen have been on a roll recently, imo it looks better than both the seiko and the tissot and it's cheaper
Tissot is better, but Citizen beats Seiko hands down.
Nothing beats seiko
Not even Tissot
I have 4 Seikos and 1 Tissot. I love all my Seiko watches, but if I could keep only one, I'd pick my Tissot over my Seikos or a Citizen.
My Seikos:
Sarb033
Cocktail Time (Ice Blue)
5KX (with custom bezel)
SNKL23
My Tissot:
Gentlemen Powermatic (Blue dial)
@@deshik 😂🤣 yeah nah.
Always have
Definitely not too big for your wrist, Jody. Looks good on ya, brother.
Citizen have definitely upped their game recently, and it shows. There's still room for improvement, so let's hope they listen to the feedback.
Biggest complaint has been the bracelets...otherwise, they are doing great
Well done Jodie and well done Citizen. My oldest Citizen, a BM6400 is still going strong and is 15 years old now. I have six Citizen s and my teenage son has two. All are faultless, so God to see the brand getting some recognition.
@@steveb4012 Have an Indian Seiko licence built, 25yrs. Company Allwyn closed down, ~900 ppl pink-slipped. ~1998.
@sotecluxan4221 I have a Quartz OMEGA SMP bought in 2006, it's just needed a battery now and then ( albeit, not cheap!) I also have an Auto Planet Ocean. It's broken down a few times and needed major servicing. 6 Citizens just keep ticking...
Citizen is great! I think they’re just getting started!
I bought the normal one with a green dial. Different league, than any of my Seikos. Titanium is awesome. This is the first time I've experienced having a full titanium watch and I have to say, that I can't imagine going back to stainless steel from now on.
Beautiful chronograph! Citizen doesn't take a back seat to anyone in their price ranges. They make the most accurate watch. They make the best solar. They make great automatic movements via Miyota. I have an Eco-Drive and it is a nearly perfect watch. Citizen - for those who know. Cheers!
I love Eco-Drive, but Casio actually does pretty good solar as well.
@@TheRealEtaoinShrdlu Why? Why? Why? Citizen make the best solar.
I’ve been a huge fan of Citizen since I bought the original Orca years ago. It is still running strong with no issues. I really love their dive watches and have numerous.
To me, titanium is the best material to make a watch out of. I just don't get the notion that weight equals quality. Citizen were the first company to use titanium, so they do have a considerable amount of experience with it now, hence this great looking piece Jody has. Tempting.
Citizen are totally ruling the Japanese brands at the price point 👍
Erm, it's turquoise/baby-blue-ish. Teal has a decent dose of green in it.
True, but remember, you are not seeing the actual dial, but footage of the dial taken by a camera, comoressed by youtube and displayed by your device screen.
Nope. There's barely any green at all in that blue. The only way that color can be classified as "teal" is by looking at a teal spectrum chart and going all the way to the left, and then having camera/displaying issues. It's at most turquoise. It's nice, don't get me wrong. It's just not teal is all. Peace. 🙂
Citizen shows everyone else how consistently the second hand can hit the indices and I love it! Looking forward to you getting hold of one of the new Seiko Pogues... Cheers!
Citizen is doing good things here lately. I go with what works at one time I was a Ford man now a Chevrolet, Man. I used to drink Coke now I go to Pepsi. Whatever works I’m loyal to quality and value
Pepsi is horrible. Way to sweet.
A pressed titanium clasp is actually kind of an engineering feat. It might be old tech but pressing titanium vs steel is still challenging. My only gripe is the lack of on-the-fly adjustment.
I laughed out loud when I saw your preview thumbnail.
I’ve been really pleased with my first Citizen (the entrancing NB1060-12L) and a new Tsuyosa that also has a striking dial should arrive any time now. I'm intrigued by the Forza line because of the impressively polished titanium and I hope to get one at some point.
Short answer...Yes. Long answer... Yessssssssssssssssssssss!
I love my Erebus Origin 38. FANTASTIC watch. Glad i went with the pink dail, its so bright its amazing.
You bring joy to so many people; not to mention but I will, your honest critique and views on old and new watches. Thanks from Texas.!!!!
I’m wearing my Citizen Blue Angels Special Edition, with EcoDrive, and it’s my everyday watch and gets plenty of compliments on its looks, but I know it’s better than just looks. 👍🇨🇦
Citizen made incredible watches in recent times
love citizen watches and love Eco-Drive even more! Thanks for showing this model off. I am always looking for another Eco-Drive to add to the collection or gift to someone. Its such a durable movement and you can basically set and forget. I do wish it was 38-40mm though ..
Forza tree hander is only 39mm - wears fantastic!
Just got a Citizen JDM NB1050-59E and am very impressed.
I want one of those. Such a beauty. Congrats!
The same movement appears in the Jacques Lemans 50-1 (same color, 42mm, steel) for around 499 Euros. This was my choice, because I´m not into titanium. Nice reviev, Jddy, as always, thanks for that 👍👍👍
Nice tip, thanks - scratches on Ti put me off.
What about a Citizen vs Seiko shootout across the range? Promaster vs Seiko 5/ Samurai/ Sho-gurai for divers, this for GADAs, speedtimer vs eco-drive etc. I think Citizen is the new budget king!
That colour will always be PD1734 turquoise to me! 😉 I'll get ma coat...... Seiko my favourite from that trio, but the light weight of the Citizen would make it more suited to my skinny wee wrists. Says the woman who can get away with my much loved Casio Duro(s) because my wrists, though both under 5¾ inches in circumference, are quite flat, so providing a stable place for big watches to sit.😊
I absolutely relate with the thumbnail
Love the three hander
Yep. Chronos have run their course. Solid, reliable, clear, attractive watches are where it's at now. Unnecessary bulk and never-used "functionality" (divers & chronos mainly) died over a year ago.
Several of the knit-picks are absent with that lovely three hander!
Thanks for finally reviewing some of these solar-titanium watches. The most similar product Casio has is the Oceanus series. Can't go wrong with either (I own both types).
I know Bulova is a Citizen brand and they are killing it!
Perfect cover poster for this video. I'm a huge fan of citizen watches. It's an underestimated brand. Thanks for giving it some attention. I will be definitely buying the Forza.
The clasp on the Night hawk is my personal favorite!!! Would have been nice to see in TI
Doesn't look too big for you, Jody. Looks ace on the wrist
I was thinking the same.
Looks fine on his wrist.
I’d rock it on my 7 inch wrist!
Yes they are! Hope this kicks some competition into Seiko
!!!!
I have the automatic version and I love it. The "white" dial is really more of a silver, it kind of goes back and forth depending on how the light hits it. The alternating brush and polish on the bracelet makes it catch light in a fantastic way as it moves.
The only change I'd make is give it the Tsuyosa small seconds dial layout--dateless with small seconds at 6 o'clock instead of the asymmetric design.
Oof. Lovely watch, but the width of the case will prevent the acquisition. That chronograph in a lovely 40mm case would be awesomeness. Nonetheless, she’s beautiful.
Orient have some solar chronos in roughly that size.
This makes a lot more sense to me than those Chinese mechanical chronographs, I wouldn't have to donate any organs to maintain this lol. I'm not enthused about the chunkiness or titanium, but I'd love to get SOME sort of solar chronograph from Citizen or Seiko.
A mechanical Chrono would be fun, and those are just not affordable except from China But if there's a problem, it will probably have to be pitched.
Chronographs are just not practical when run from regular batteries. They eat batteries rapidly if you actually make all those hands do something regularly. I am speaking from experience.
So solar is the right answer for chronos, unless one wants to spend a pile of money.
They seem to be a greenish colorway that's available in Europe that looks really nice. Happy to see Citizen making a watch with a nice textured dial.
I got the small seconds automatic in blue. It’s my first automatic watch and I love everything about it. I have small wrists so I’m happy that it wears much smaller than the 40mm prx which I tried on my wrist as well.
I'm wearing a Citizen now. Great value, well made, an easy equation. They don't need to chase Seiko and others, they just need to keep making their own quality items. There are a lot of models that have caught my eye recently. They also make some really functional dive watches. Love the eco-drive. They seem to be making some really good looking dials as of late and are seemingly getting out of the habit of overcrowding the dial.
Yeah
Had mine in a couple of days
So glad that you’re reviewing this model!
And yess this is my first citizen, after buying tons of seiko’s and i really impressed by the forza chrono
Love Citizen Eco-drive but their fixed bezel sports styles are usually just too big. If they made more 38/39 mm options they would sell a ton more watches. One of the new Forza range is 39mm, so maybe the message is getting through at last.
I love my Citizen Chrono with Eco Drive from 2015 and my Promaster Automatic NY0085 i bought in February 2024. Next will be the Fujitsubo, a great Watch.
El Bulova Jetstar también merece la pena
I must be getting old or jaded, so many new watches just don’t do anything for me
90% of Citizen watches, despite being technologically superior to many others, are either ugly or face a too complicated of a watch face.
Yes.
Can’t wait for these to arrive in New Zealand and Australia, the hardest part will be deciding which model to go with!
Very cool indeed. And a hair too large for me indeed also. Thanks for showing it to us! I really do need to pay attention to Citizen more.👍🏼
Picked one of these up a couple of weeks back. The dial is a stunner. The watch has been getting quite a lot of wrist time.
Best value watch on the market now. Titanium and textured dial. Two things you don't get from Seiko for this price. If I could have any new watch I would take this in the ecodrive non Chronograph form. I despise 99 percent of watches because of their weight. Most watches feel like wearing a cellphone or mountain bike to me. So this is one of the only watches I would buy other than nordgren or skagen and actually wear it.
Great vid. I bought a Pagani chrono for around $90 CDN. It looks fabulous and while it isn’t Ti or eco drive it is hard in my mind to justify the massive price difference particularly given the compromises like the clasp! My collection is getting a little silly size wise and the Pagani chrono still gets lots of wrist time. Thanks as always Jody!!
Citizens coming into its own this past couple years! This has reflected in my collection! Jody you should do the nb1050 in blue it’s just a killer watch and the last skx competition left unuttered
If Seiko made a Solar titanium, with sapphire crystal, it would be priced at £1000! Seikos prices on the second hand market is almost half price in some cases! (I picked up a virtually new seiko 1965, for £500 - half the price!)
Citizen is literally trumping over Seiko, and I hope they continue. This Citizen is Beautiful! - Thanks for the tip Jody, I'll picked one up!
My biggest concern with Seiko is the QC and spec of dust that are all too common inside the glass, and the infamous alignment issues... Citizen QC is mostly above par
yes it is!!!!
42.5 is big but it works really well on your wrist. Not too big at all.
Just a small clarification regarding Eco Drive: it charges with ANY light, not only solar.
No pocket shot to finish :( - always gives a good idea of how it actually looks in reality!
Great looking watch, in this case I think the regular Forza with separate seconds subdial, ice blue colour, is the pick of the bunch.
I bought a Citizen NH9130. Under $300. 40mm dress watch with SAPPHIRE. Only two lines of text, open heart with a textured dial done well. Hacking and handwinding. Absolute bang for the buck dress watch. I would suggest you look at it Jody. Great video as always!
Great looking watch! Titanium, eco-drive, excellent QC, finishing and accuracy. That is better than offerings from their competitors.
Great review.. I've always preferred Citizen to Seiko..
Any chance you our going to review the Citizen Promaster Land 35th anniversary JV1008-63E soon??
I own about 5 citizens and all are ecodrive and one ny0040 auto. All of them are extremely precise, robust and well built years in. Prices are also a steal compared to Seiko, whats not to like. QC usually is better too.
Citizen is innovating and Orient is doing its traditional "bread and butter" that absolutely works. Both brands are pricing correctly. Seiko, on the other hand...
Outstanding video.I have to go with the amzwatch, especially with that green dial as my favorite
Citizen offers more Quality than Seiko for a fairer price, that why I will choose Citizen over Seiko.
Nice looking Citizen! It's good to see Citizen stepping it up lately. Thanks!
6 year warranty if you register. Not into the examples referred to. How about a stiletto at 4mm wide quarz at least the £300 (they made a 2mm thick one) or the most accurate watch ever ( 0100 movement, again more expensive, but unbeaten).
Seiko used to offer value series especially SKX & 5 series. Citizen always provides higher price tier models and even until now. So it actually churns out models that cost the same just that Seiko have increased the price. Orient still has best value offer, esp with sapphire crystals for Kamasu series including the solar chronograph model.
Citizen finally starting to stick with a design and making new itterations. Loving the dial colour and intergrated case
Wow if u don’t wanna shell out a ton for a prx chrono that citizen does a good job
I agree that today Citizen watches are better values than Seiko. And I like this watch. Still not the sub $200 USD value of days gone past. I enjoy my Citizen Nighthawk that is 20 years old. A new capacitor (battery) and an upgrade to a sapphire crystal. I'll probably get another 20 years out of it. In the meantime I build custom watches with NH35 movements. What do I need a Seiko logo on the dial for?
100% agree with your intro! Citizen really are on a roll!,, think I had one citizen in my modest collection for years .....but eyeing at least 3-4 potential citizen purchases- and now this one( this channel is very bad for my wallet😢)...😊
Grateful to Jody for helping me discover the quite exceptionnal Citizen ChronoMaster
Jody, I was the one that brought this one up on club Erebus and asked for a review (my name is not Mike smith :) ). So glad you got it. I have the panda seitona and I like both the Seiko and citizen for different reasons. I LOVED the citizen when I saw it in the store and even though I have the Seiko, I am excited to eventually get one of the forzas. Lastly…. I would totally trade my quartz PRX for the forza!!!!!
No chrono with 24h dial will see any love from me.
The pick of the Forza litter is the 39mm three hander 👌
Good looking watch, I would buy it over the speed timer
Thanks for the great review. I been eyeing the Forza watch for some time. Love the color that you have or the dark Blue dial. Just trying to figure which movement to get. Also want to wait for some sort of Holiday Sale.
Lucky that the 3 handers are both smaller than this chrono. Both the auto & the eco-drive are 39mm to 40mm so more likely to fit a greater range of people. Shame they are taking so long to get down to Australasia.
I prefer the Speedtimer
Never been a fan of citizen, but I like where they’re heading with a couple of their latest releases, but I still prefer my Tiff….ah ice blue speedtimer. But I’m keen to try the small seconds version of this one.
Absolutely love the small seconds Tsuyosa you reviewed a few months back. That greenish blue goes with absolutely every blue thing I own. Gorgeous and 60 hours power reserve. I love Citizen. Seiko is so meh these days...
Great timing! Just about to hit buy on this.
Oye, que buena pronunciación del español. Un poquito con acento mexicano pero muy bueno.
Yes, I have bought from MaMaCoo more than once. I even bought a new Omega Speedmaster which came with the fancy box and packaging. I am thrilled with all my purchases here. I would purchase from MaMaCoo again for sure.
Not watched the video yet, but yes, Citizen are on it at the moment. Undercutting on price and out in front with designs. They're on the way up for sure.
Yes. Citizen is winning. They are so good.
You got a good one there. I like it.
That is one of the most Handsome watches ive seen in a long time (:
Recently got hands on with one of these in Canada. Great looking watch but the titanium was too light for my liking and the bracelet felt really cheap.
Definitely wears well though and felt great on my 7.5” wrist.
Love citizen. They make designs that appeal to me more than seiko.
Ben’s Watch Club did a test on the duratect coating… it fared no better than 316L SS from memory so the only real benefit you’re getting from the Ti in this instance is the weight reduction 🤷♂️
Isn't that supposed to be the point of the coating: To hopefully make titanium at least close to stainless steel in long term wear?
I have seen plenty of titanium watches that just looked awful after a few years. I would be very impressed if a treated or coated titanium could do as well as stainless steel.
I still do not trust that this is truly and practically possible.
No, there is also the benefit of less allergenic properties. The nickel in S/S does cause allergies. Ask me how I know.
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Ok. That is fair. I believe most people that I have heard from who buy titanium are looking for lighter weight.
Like I said, titanium has always had a bad association in my mind with watches that looked nice when new but looked absolutely destroyed after a few years.
I should think you would be very happy to get titanium that holds up as well as stainless steel.
It is hard to judge just how good Citizen watches are as they keep the best ones for the JDM only. I suspect many potential buyers are like me and just will not take the risk of buying JDM due to warranty / servicing problems.
So when are we getting an Erebus Ascent in 36 mm? My suggestions for colorways are Salmon, Tiffany, and Lavender in addition to the enamel colors of the 39mm version.
Citizen do some seriously good watches and they seem more professional than Seiko.The QC is spot on! I have the Titanium 'Ray Mears' field watch and it's amazing. Monobloc, light, plenty of WR and a very sturdy yet wearable Kavlar strap (also comes with Titanium bracelet but costs 5o quid more). Subtle watch and no one would know how complex it is. Citizen have really embraced Titanium and are doing great things with it! Thanks Jody. And I do think the watch looks good on you.
Love Eco-Drive but not a chrono fan. I do like the look of the 40mm day/date version - AW0130.
Yes
Speedtimer is much a better choice.
I would love to see this on FKM rubber🤔
I've only been interested in watches for a few years now and I've never quite understood where the hype for Seiko came from. I have several Eco-Drive watches from Citizen and every single one works flawlessly, including my favorite Nighthawk. Meanwhile, the first solar I bought from Seiko had a dead battery, and after replacing it lasted a year and then died again. My friend also had problems with Seiko quality. And when I wanted to buy a Willard reissue and checked the price - 1200 EUR, I fell off my chair. Seiko is either having a laugh or draining our wallets, while Citizen simply offers great watches. The choice for me is obvious.
This has been my thought for a few years (citizen=value and Seiko hit and miss), since covid started really, when I bought a couple Seiko's in a wine infused haze during lockdown, and they were sup par, mis aligned, varying bezel friction, expensive, etc....the Citizens I picked up were perfecto. Ill always have a Monster and a Samurai, (the classics) but nothing new in years has excited me at Seiko. I could see Seiko ebb and flow in quality over the years since the late 90s. The crystals, the alignments, the finish were all excellent when I got into watches, then mid 2000's I noticed the same Chrono's with inferior crystal, hit and miss dials, just cheaper feeling all around. I think they have picked their game up now that all the watch geeks converge and collaborate. But, as you mentioned, the price tier has changed dramatically. Thus, the Citizen has a nice niche to fill.