Can a New Diesel Make the 2020 Ram Rebel the Best Half-Ton Off-Roader? We Get It Dirty To Find Out!
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- ( www.TFLtruck.com ) The 2020 Ram 1500 Rebel EcoDiesel Truck has tons of torque and tons of power. But does putting in a new Diesel engine make the new 2020 Ram 1500 Rebel EcoDiesel better off-road. There's only one way to find out.
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I will say the Tradesman package is probably the best bang for your buck. No other brand can offer a 4 door/quad cab big engine 4wd max tow for what Ram can.
Leland Holton how much does it run?
Great video showing the initial information. I appreciate your interviewing the Chief Diesel Engineer for Ram to get hands on information about the redesigned 3rd Gen. Ecodiesel. Keep up the good work, Andre.
I think you found your new truck Andre. The new Ram Rebel eco- diesel. Thanks for sharing the details of the this truck Andre.
Andre is a chevy guy, he just does a dang good job at not showing bias in reviews. mr. truck could learn a few things from Andre, he is so ford everything.
James Penner Kent is the most pretentious person in all of TFL😂
@@jamespenner1412 👍🏻
@@UNREAL8745 maybe some of us have had bad luck with everything else but Ford. Maybe if you'd get your head out of your ass you'd know that.
Robert Richardson Maybe if you’d understand what “TFL, Home of Non-Biased Reviews” meant, you’d realize how far your head is up your own ass
The show is great. If you guys ever decide to do a TFL Motorcycle, I would be more than happy to test bikes for you.
Here is my experience. I have the Hemi in a 2015 1500, I LOVE it. Drives great. Wonderful power. Very smooth ride. Great interior. But I learned the hard way that they all break exhaust manifold studs. I ended having to replace all the studs and install new headers due to this endemic failure. It happened at 60K miles. I talked with RAM "Oh sure, they all do that" "Its because of the aluminum heads and iron block" Huh? Then I learned that the coolant bypass valve failed. "Oh sure, we do those all the time". Now its don't let it idle or you will see the roller cam followers fail. "Sure, been doing it for years". My daddy told me never buy a year one car. All the problems will surface and get fixed for the next model. Maybe this new diesel engine is fixing the problems. But maybe its bringing on a bunch of new problems. I will hang onto my 2015 Hemi truck. I mean, I just paid to get most of the "common" problems fixed!
Same problem here in addition to the AC compressor relay sticking and the oil pressure sensor; thought it was a teething problem in 2014 models. Not so, dealer told me the same with an Italian swag. Love the mpg but will be back to Cummins next time around.
That towing mirror trick was the coolest thing I’ve seen
Can't believe you guys were in gilbert!! Saw everything getting setup when I was at the park on Sunday. Wish I could've stayed up and met you guys. Hope they have more demos there in the future
I’ve been waiting to see what this truck was going to bring to the table since I’m in the market for a 1/2 ton diesel. Looks like the Ram is going to be very competitive. With the 3rd generation engine having 80% new parts it won’t make a difference who you go with you will be taking a crapshoot since there really isn’t any track record for any of the 1/2 ton Diesel engines.
I wish Ram would have redesigned the Ram Box so it was a side opener. You can’t have a set of racks or a shell and use them. Oh well, it was just going to cost a bunch more $$ if I got it. GMC still wins in the tail gate department with that 6 way tail gate.
Except the tailgate doesn't work with any type of tow hitch.. woops.
Spencer Bane I hadn’t heard about that. Are you saying that the truck can’t accept a receiver hitch or that you can’t attach a ball to the bumper? I’m assuming you are referring to the GMC.
@@secondamendment8773 ua-cam.com/video/WbB2lj_2-CI/v-deo.html
Spencer Bane That’s funny. I did a search and didn’t find anything about it. Thanks for the link. That sure makes that a lot less useful.
I have my doubts about this engine BUT.....I like the fact the offer the bigger 36gal tank. Only time will tell on the reliability of this engine.
simjet22 33gal
Once it hits the dealer lots I’m sure we’ll find out fairly fast whether it is reliable or not like the last one
As far as I know, they’re fiat diesels so who knows if it’ll last more than 30k miles🤷🏻♂️
God, I love this channel.
Keep up the good work fellas!
Cheers from Sweden
When do you think you will do a side by side comparison of Chevy, Chrysler and Ford Diesels
Cool that RAM is putting more engine choices for the consumer. I have no need for a 1/2 ton diesel, much less a 1/2 ton. Still cool regardless.
2:05 That sneeze in the background tho😂
Taylon Fitch lol that's hilarious God bless them an who ever else was around them😂😂😂
Seasonal allergies ;-)
I hope he wasn’t performing s precision calibration of the crash restraint system when he sneezed.
My best friend saved his butt off for a new truck. He works construction up north. He bought one...told him to be careful! Nothing but problems with this engine. Always in the dealership. Fact he's in there often enough , they won't give him a loaner anymore. Damn good looking trucks...but pass!!!!
But talked to a guy a couple if weeks ago at the pump and said he's had no problems whatsoever
Here's another thing! I'm shopping for a new diesel at the moment... 🙄
Every brand has their problems. talking to 2 different people is not a true indication of vehicle issues. If that were the case, no companies would be able to sell anything...after turning wrenches for 10 years, I'd never own a GM product, but still would buy a RAM even with the few issues I did have. My current Ford PS is not perfect either. It's been in the shop 5 times since March 2018 when I bought it new. sooo, Buy what will work for you and use the hell out of the warranty. Only way companies learn to make their shit better.
@@zeex-14rse57 true words!! I test drove the ram diesel the other day. Damn...its beautiful inside and out! Plenty of power! But I can hear my dad telling me not to do it! Lol.
So I have the Chevy 1500 , Ford EcoBoost 6 , and the little diesel Colorado to drive today. Take care
Next is upgrades for whatever I get!! Tuners e.g
You’ll have to get Roman to splash the cash and trade you’re gas version for a diesel long term
Trade you are gas version?????
@@scarhart53 TFL own a 5.7 hemi v8 "gas" rebel as a long term vehicle.
Have driven Ecodiesel and the 3.1 before that, great motors, this one is the best I've seen so far and those RAM beds are brilliant.
As much as I wanna love the new eco diesel, its so hard to trust FCA diesels.
FCA anything.
I would rather have Chevys straight 6 diesel in the 1500... except gms 2500 is giving them problems with the stupid emissions crap
Because Gen 1 failed regularly at 150k miles or less and check engine lights came on and we're difficult if not impossible to solve are 2 great reasons not to trust these economy diesels.
I like the look of this EcoRebel.
First thing I noticed is that new tailgate. Haven't seen it action yet.
Jared Kurtti we got em at our dealership. They’re pretty cool
2 egr's, 2x more likely to break,or 2x more annoying to delete? Also kind of hard to understand what the engineer is saying sometimes,
Some subtitles would be nice.
Damn Italians.
James panda Let me try: “Ats-a Lott-a exhaust-a ...And now-a we gotta more-a reliability-a”
That feeling when you realize it has basically the same payload as my sienna
Dads Domain I would have thought the sinking feeling came when you bought a minivan
nookbandit Ha! Yes you are correct but by that point we were surrounded by kids and all their stuff. Couldn’t afford a suburban so we went that route. Say what you will though as far as functionality is concerned it’s hard to beat
@@DadsDomain Agreed. Only your soul and pride are asked for in exchange. lol, jk of course they are so practical they are hard to deny. That's part of the problem I think. All brown clothing is also practical, but....
Dads Domain What an embarrassment to drive a minivan.
@@RFJersey how is it embarrassing? He paid for it, he owns it. What others think are of little consequence when it comes to what we come out of pocket for.
The barn door tailgate is way more interesting than the diesel IMO. Just like the passthrough storage and seat on the Rivian is the coolest thing on that truck. If manufactures want to separate themselves from the pack they need to look at functional design changes like these. My Dad for instance loves to buy RAm trucks because of its storage options like the RAM box and in floor storage. People poo poo it because it takes away from the bed space but my Dad uses it for camping, fishing and as a daily driver. And these things are awesome for that. My mom loves to use them too for shopping and her hobby supplies so much that she won't let my Dad get a truck without them.
Personally I have a friend who has a Ridgeline with the in bed storage box. I like that option so much! It's great for storing all kind of things you don't want to get wet or store in the passenger cabin. If I was comfortable sitting in one and it had the towing and offroading cap I wanted I would think about getting it.
When it comes to storage and access Trucks need the equivalent of van stow and go seating IMO. The company that comes up with that is going to sell a shit ton of trucks. I really think it's the thing allot of people don't realize they really want. Because let's face it. Using a Tonneau cover to keep things dry is a pain in the ass. Stuff gets shifted to the front of the box and truck boxes are so tall nowadays that they are impractical for a lot of people unless you are doing construction. I use mine for camping and a wheelchair and I honestly miss the box in my old 2001 F150 cause it was accessible without the need for hooky steps. I'm 6'6" and even I have a difficult time getting things out of my 2014 Sierra's box sometimes.
It's too bad that a lot of people don't see the Ridgeline as a viable option in a truck because of its limitations. I bet for a lot of people its all they really need cause the worst road they are going to take it on is a grid road. Its only issue is that its not very "off road worthy" so a lot of people don't look at it even though they don't off road their trucks.
Sorry, I just don't think diesel engines in half ton trucks make any sense. But I do like the tailgate design. Not so fond of those latches mounted on the bed however. I can see items getting hung up on them when getting dragged out.
It's all about mpg, GM's can make up to , I think, 33 mpg hwy, plus almost same towing capacity ,that's neat, at least for me
@@desvariosdeuncamionero8856 But the added cost of the engine, fuel and maintenance make that offset in better mpg a moot point for a long time.
Some gas engines are getting more than 20 mpg and are getting better all the time.
Ecodiesel engines don't exactly inspire confidence in durability either. Yes, the Italian engineer with the cool accent said otherwise, but what do you think he is supposed to say?
Granted, I'm a Ford F150 kinda guy, but would not consider a Powerstroke in a half ton anytime soon.
@@billymc2681 People on the Ram forums have been asking for a baby diesel for a long time. Now, whether or not they buy it is the question.
billy mc damn just cause he’s Italian you don’t trust him? Racist much?
@@alecbaye9703 way to jump to ignorant conclusions. It's the head engineer, he's not gonna bring negative info about his new engine in an interview, regardless of him being Italian, or German, or russian, etc. Stop reaching for the offended butthurt schtick.
If the tradesman come in full crew cab and 4X4 with the bigger tank
I am sold
I don't need all the extra fancy stuff
dont think you can get the bigger tank, requires a upgraded cab bell and wistle package on the current gas engine models at least
I have seen Tradesmen level trucks on my local dealer lot. That had crew cab, 6'4" bed, and the 31 gallon tank. Find out who does the ordering at your favorite dealer. And give a written wish list. They will; have one, find one, or order one for you.
Had a 2016, never again. Still a VM sourced engine. Show me a 10yr/100k unlimited bumper to bumper warranty, and we'll see
Jeffrey Hornbaker I heard those engines were a nightmare.
Pitty you had problems 120k on my 2015 and still love it
@Jeffrey Hornbaker
We are at 87k miles on our 2016 and zero issues even after the emission update, she runs like a champ and gets an average of 25 MPG. My son also has a 2014 Eco with 104K miles and zero issues (2nd owner since 44K) We will be buying another just like 10's of thousands of others will be so I'm sure they will not need to chase your couple of dollars down.
rsg1963 I find it hard to believe you haven’t had any issues.
Was really hoping the 2020 Rebel would not have the red accents in the interior. I know a lot of folks like it, but not my cup of tea.
Then keep your ass out of one
I like the ecodiesel and it is a pretty reliable engine from my experience. The only issue is the DPF gets clogged if you aren’t careful.
Just fill the DEF tank at half a tank. Runs fine that way.
Oh! Shit! I’ve got a bad feeling
2 foreigners talking, foreign designed, American trucks
We’re in trouble with this one aren’t we. Lol
Typical American Racism right here....
Pussaty No it’s Nationalism if anything. Lol
Nationality and race are two different things
Before hurling comments like that read the definition of the words you use
Your point is what? Ford's president of North America is from India. Before that he was the President of Engineering in North America for the company. It really makes no difference where people are from. It probably would surprise you that, the best engineers in the world aren't from the United States.
J MAR There is no point
It’s a joke
You know?Ha Ha?
@@SantanKGhey1234 Typical triggerdism right there
I dont think tfl knows what water logged means
Rick James cause they’re going to waterlog a 2020 Rebel...
Everyone: waterlogged = stalled while under water.
TFL: waterlogged: Drive 'er through that puddle boys!
Those laches for the tailgate stick up to high and will be in the way and get smashed. Plus still no step to step up into bed. Also do the tailgates open more then the 90 degrees.
Fiat/Chrysler holds the title on how many recalls a automotive can have theres recalls all across there platform Jeep ram Chrysler dodge fiat someone should give them a trophy
On the other side of the coin i rather have recall fix for free. I like my Explorer, but the always failing PTU is sealed and no way to maintain from factory, left for consumer to deal with it
Ford just denies it exists
Better to have a recall than sweep issues under the rug until there are lawsuits like ford and gm....
It’s sad. I was getting one in the mail every few weeks for a while. I just started stacking them up in hopes they would stop coming and I could just get them all done in one shot.
Funny how most manufactures are going to big grilles but ram went the other way. :)
I like the rebel ecodiesel with the rambox, but the 1198 lb payload is a deal breaker for me.
That is 5 grown men that are 200 lbs each and some luggage.... lower than chevy tahoe
My traverse is just under 1700 payload
It’s rated for that much only because the truck has some weight on it, but I would trust it to handle just as much as the ford or chevy.
My truck has a 1k ib payload, I'm easily passing that with just my Dad and me thanks to tools, frankly I wouldn't use the payload as a "how much stuff I can haul", but rather"how much tounge weight it can handle" simply due to the fact that my suspension, even with full payload, doesn't even drop an inch, vs having 1k on the tounge drops it a noticeable amount, as one of the guys said however, I bet that payload is underrated.
Since Nissan is going to stop using the 5.0 Cummings, FCA should get the rights to use it and put it in the Ram, Wrangler, and Gladiators.
The 5.0 isn’t good enough on fuel. Eco diesels are primarily for fuel mileage. I would certainly trust Cummins reliability more though!
In China, there is a place that is very suitable for 4WD Rock-climbing. It is called Hooke Trail. We shoot some videos of Jeep Wrangler and King of Hammer. Off-road enthusiasts are welcome to experience the Hooke Trail ! There must be different gains!
I hope they can talk about the the exaust system ! was the big failure on previous trucks !.
Reliability?
Please update with the MPG ratings when they drop and also availability. Thx!
Tailgate is cool, but not if it requires the RAMBox. Hopefully it'll come on a regular bed as well.
Rambox is not necessary. The tailgate is $995 as a standalone option.
I hope this engine doesn't carry over the infamous bosh injection pump that will blow up and leave you on the side of the road and with a $6k bill to replace it, the fuel lines and injectors! My mid size Chevy Colorado ZR2 has a higher payload rating than the RAM. Wait, I only see only 4 head bolts per cylinder on that aluminum head! With 18:1 compression, and 20 lbs of turbo boost......can you say head gasket issues down the road especially at max towing??? Be careful when you test this truck on the Ike!
A Colorado with over 2k pounds of payload? Well there is a first for everything.
Go to the 7:07 mark. The ram has 1,200 payload capacity. Same as the Colorado zR2
This truck has some neat features like the innovative console storage, the Rambox with the switched 120v outlet, and that cool tailgate. Unfortunately the Ecodiesel seems rather lackluster without any pricing or mpg specs, and the hemi still sounds better!
did they rework the cams so they don't become divorced from the timing gears?
That is the big question that seems to be avoided.
No. Still a pressed on interference fit
@@claytondennis8034 boo
That's cool that the ram box lights let you see in the dark...😎
In the market but...how long will the Chrysler-Fiat arrangement last? This is a new, untested engine? What’s likelihood of parts availability down the road? I’ll stick with the V8 for now.
Nope, this basic engine architecture has been around longer than you think.
Really curious about the mpg numbers on this
wow tailgate very similar to Ridgeline that introduced it in 2013
Ridgeline introduced it in 2006.
I drive a 5.7 for a reason. Unless you drive 50k miles a year, you will never break even with the diesel. Plus, I couldn't live without that V8 sound
Agree.
New tailgate options are interesting. So are the towing mirror/road mirror combination. I like the integrated lock box in the fender. Been thinking that space would have been good for that for decades. NEW trucks have sure become very complex. Wish I had a need and the $ for one. :P
I'll be waiting for the video with the Chevy, Ford, and Ram half ton diesels. . I'm still not sold on this engine. Guys that had them over 100,000 miles started having major issues with them. Hopefully the 80% redesign addressed a lot of those issues.
I actually like my '14 Ecodiesel a lot. Except for the CEL every few months and the resultant "software update" that "fixed" each CEL, and the ever declining mpg, and the fact that it got 5 years old and out of warranty. Can we expect better with the new version?
Are these Eco-diesels going to grenade at 5k miles again?
I was lucky to make it almost 100,000 before mine went belly-up.
Really curious if there is an exhaust break.by the look of the last two videos on the ecodiesel I think I’m going to be disappointed.
No exhaust brake.
Not likely. But aftermarket seems to have a solution. I checked and would consider it. I'm surprised with all the towing blathering going on they did not include it. Would be a great selling feature. Make it optional, I'd buy it!
Looks promising. Please update us asap on the 4Q missing numbers, for us December purchasers!
I'm buying 2 of these eco diesels. One for my boat, one for off-road adventures.
@@Mr.Ramirez95 damn!
@@BryanRojo It's UA-cam. You can say anything you want while providing absolutely no evidence. 😂
It was problems was meeting epa emissions it had nothing to do with reliability hopefully the redesign gets in compliance with out effecting the reliability time will tell
Just wish it had a front bench seat option.. 😒
@Daver G nope.. You can get em. Ty for chiming in.
Tries to turn down the radio.
Shifts into reverse on the highway.
I'm curious to how long these new mini diesels will last.
Roman sells me on the importance of torque everytime
i love the way the interior looks in the RAM but not that huge on the exterior this was a very close second to my 2018 F150 maybe when i bought if the incentives were there i would of got the RAM
Still would LOVE to have at 4WD Auto mode in the rebel!
Auto lock in the ram means clutch pack only. There is no lock ring, which means no true 4wd.
Put this Diesel in the Power Wagon. I would prefer the 6.7 Cummins of the 5.0 liter Cummins. Will take any diesel in the Power wagon.
How are you saying this? The 6.4 HEMI does just fine.
Paulo Abesamis - Torque over HP for off-roading plus better gas mileage would make a lot of Power Wagon owners happy.
@@offroad-adventure funny I don't see this on forums other than here.
@@offroad-adventure but the diesels are so danm heavy, and the intercooler would have to go where the winch already is, so it ain't happening.
Getting a V6 in a 3/4-ton is the dumbest concept I've heard let alone a tiny 3 liter that's geared for economy whilst the 6.4 and 6.7 units are geared for getting the job done.
Andre what is the towing numbers for the 4x4 Rebel EcoDiesel?
Should be 11000
Well that isn't so bad, but thought diesel could pull more than gas! So why go Diesel?
Fuel mileage
@@danielhaynie5502 So the extra 5K for the Diesel and $100 plus dollar oil changes and DEF washes out any fuel mileage advantages. NEXT!!! :)
@@JPE_DRAEB I agree, but that's what people buy into, because diesels do better on fuel. Gimmick or not, its true.
Outstanding video! Great details!
So is the same engine going in the gladiator and wrangler. That's going to be awesome
Be nice to see that engine in the new grand Cherokee
Even if other truck makers make that awsome barn door option it wont work in the winter. Everone else the bumpers are too high. A little bit of ice and you wreck your tailgate; comes down and crushes on the ice. Ram is the only one smart enough to lower the bumper.
Will the ecodiesel have the option for the etorqu?
Good question. Considering the stop/start, i say why not?
Joshua Lee I didn’t see a stop/start button on the dash where it normally would be, I’m thinking this one hasn’t got stop/start
I hope a new cam gear and main bearings are part of that 80% new parts.
No kidding, exactly what i was thinking. Those were the main issues people were having.
I REALLY HOPE YOULL DO A REVIEW ON THE BRONCO WHEN IT COMES OUT
QUESTIONS!!! ok can you confirm 100% that you didnt miss speak. You said the eco can now have the larger 33gal tank as an option? In the past, only the smaller tank was available, with ram saying the def tank took up the extra space of the larger fuel cell. Please confirm if you are right on the larger Tank being a true option on the ecoD.
IF Chris Cuomo watched this channel we could call it the Fredo Diesel and look for two pages of profane rants. .😁
Chris Cuomo truly is Fredo, he proved it! He is the Eco diesel of humans.
@@kman-mi7su 😂🤣😂
FREDO 2020!!!!!!!!!
@@kman-mi7su I laughed having no idea what this means!
Sorry Andre you got it wrong when you said the Ram Ecodiesel is the half ton diesel class leader in torque, that belongs to the Nissan Titan with the 5.0L Cummins, 555lb.ft.
The Cummings is only available in the Nissan Titan XD, which is considered larger than the half-ton Nissan Titan.
Which has been discontinued in 2020, for 1. And 2, it's only available on the Titan XD which occupied a midrange between 1/4 and 1/2 ton trucks, 3/8 ton? 😂🤣
@@Magilla480 We're all splitting hairs.
@@Magilla480 it was between 1/2 and 3/4, so 5/8.
Price in Canada is $ 49,395 for a Tradesman .
Exhaust brake?
Not likely. But aftermarket seems to have a solution. I checked and would consider it. I'm surprised with all the towing blathering going on they did not include it. Would be a great selling feature. Make it optional, I'd buy it!
That tailgate is like the new Ram 1000 small truck do not know if that one is coming too USA & Canada
You shouldn't do another video on this Eco Diesel, until you get mpg.
I would rather stick with my 2012 cumming non eco lol
So, is this the engine they are planning to stuff into the Gladiator?
Yasss! Gimmie gimmie gimmie!!!
Magilla480 Why? I have heard that the engine is an unreliable mess. Has anything changed?
@@RFJersey you've heard about an engine that hasn't even been released yet, huh? Must be nice knowing this mystical future we live in. 🙄
It really blows you buy a diesel to hear the noise and all the crappy epa shit has removed that it sounds like a gas v6. I'm just happy I live in a state who doesn't have a state inspection and my home state will still pass inspection with deletes.
I’m a mopar man and.... hell no. “Fiat Quality” hemi 6.4or the 6.7 please
The engine didn’t sound too great in the limited pulling the boat. The hallow rattles sounds make me cringe....
Do a k5 blazer vs the new blazer old vs new would love to see that
As always, Great review! And I like that truck with that motor
Oooh! It looks like someone was at the Iron Range Off Highway Vehicle Park in Gilbert, Minnesota. :-)
Why is there 6000 colors for coolant? What happened to just the green stuff?
I'm on my second ED engine on my 2016 ram 1500.
Had to be replaced at 32000 miles. Yeahh no thank you!!! Get a Cummins and skip the headaches of ED engines.
Do you guys with problems let the engine warm up for a minute before you take off? I've got 18000 miles on mine and besides one trip to the dealer this trucks been awesome. The lag is annoying but I'm used to it by now.
@@MattSmith-vl8zp Gde will fix the lag even in the street tune mode, no egr but still dpf, 120k here still love it
@@MattSmith-vl8zp yeah I let it warm up always. My problem was the coolant was leaking into the engine. So they completely replaced the engine under warranty
8:24 sounded like you said 8 track controls haha (i looked away for a moment so I didnt see context)
So in a chassis that is actually practical... crew cab, some people in it and gear and fuel... you can tow about 8000lbs, not 12000. Its still just a half ton truck
What about burning bio-diesel fuel that's sold in the Midwest. Also you guys should ask Mercedes Benz why their 3.0L diesel engine in the sprinter van is the weakest diesel engine.
Midwest fuel with corn in it? Midwest is killing engines with the government subsidized Ethanol.
Didnt even understand a word coming out of that engineer .
480 torque 👌
Pricing is 5k over the gas v6 3k over outdated hemi 5.7
The hemi isn't all that outdated, or why did ford just backwards engineer a new pushrod v8 with an iron block and port fuel injection? I guess it's pointless to reinvent the wheel, but you are having a hard time comprehending that as ford did. Ford went around their @$$ to get to their whole creating those shitty ohc mod motors in the first place. And the shitty 6.2 "boss" motor as well. Don't say ecoboost is the future, cause if it was it would be in the f250s on up with all the power they got. Quality? Another story. So much for outdated hater, guess you mad cause chevy has nascar and chrysler has nhra while techy ford has nothing but some hoonigan drift punks lol.
Did I miss the 4X4 test off-road?
Oh no! 80% more Fiat?
Is Fiat really much different than Dodge on the reliability factor? Neither has a reputation for reliability.
Nah, Dodge never had reputation for reliability. Get a Toyota if reliability is your biggest concern.
bullshit...... more stupid unproven bullshit...
I really wish they would add a front camera and locking diffs to the rebel
2 options for locking rear diff
Cole Kreger I really meant a front locker
Deleted and tuned that truck will be nice.
how good is the front brake actuated traction control for splitting power left to right? I asked a ram sales guy a few years back and they said it did not have off road TC.
What is off road capability ? does it has locking front or rear diff? Well, you are reviewing Rebel model and didn't say nothing about 4wd system!
Let's see the price
....and the mpg....
any one who buys a new fiat diesel deserves the lemon they get after their last engine many problems
I'd be demanding an engine swap for free if I owned the previous model year with many engine issues. Use the lemon law if in USA. How can you sell a vehicle with engine issues and then if it is truly 80% redesigned the following year survive that as a business? I feel sorry for some people stuck in these situations.
NatureRecycleFlorida the engine is made and designed by VM Motori not fiat...
@@blegi1245 from Wikipedia page
VM Motori S.p.A. is an Italian diesel engine manufacturing company which is wholly owned by Fiat Chrysler Automobiles through its subsidiary Fiat Group Automobiles.
NatureRecycleFlorida and VM Motori is NOT fiat power train technologies. Yes fiat currently owns VM. In your stupid mind VM engines were GM engines when GM owned VM Motori? Were VM engines Detroit diesels when dd owned VM? Did VM engines become Mercedes-Benz engines after Daimler bought Detroit diesel? Did Detroit diesel engines become Mercedes-Benz engines after Daimler bought them? These are profound questions we need answers for.