The Ugly Truth About Burnout (Even When Unemployed), and How to Build Immunity | Dr. Kandi Wiens

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Ep254: The Ugly Truth About Burnout (Even When You’re Unemployed), and How to Build Immunity From It | with Dr. Kandi Wiens
My guest today is Dr. Kandi Wiens, Director of the University of Pennsylvania’s Masters in Medical Education Program and co-founder of Big Sky Leadership Labs. But what brought her to my attention is her book, Burnout Immunity, and her perspective on the subject.
My conversation with Dr. Wiens starts deep and goes deeper with both of us admitting to feeling burned out right out of the gate. This isn’t two experts who have it all figured out spouting advice from the mountain top. This is a very real conversation talking about burnout from the trenches. Dr. Wiens takes us deep into the psychology of burnout to gain an understanding of its root causes. We explore why we tend to drive ourselves to burnout, even when we may be unemployed or underemployed. Dr. Wiens reveals how the term burnout is often overused and that sometimes, we might not be burned out at all. More importantly, Dr. Wiens and I talk about the strategies and tools you can use to develop burnout immunity so you can build resilience and heal your relationship with your work and live a more balanced, fulfilling life.
Chapters:
00:04:26 | How Dr. Wiens personal experience led her from being a management consultant to studying burnout
00:12:17 | How past experiences affect how we deal with stress and also hold ourselves back
00:16:36 | What is Emotion Focus Coping and how we can shift away from it to taking ‘control’ of our stress
00:21:26 | The root cause of burnout and why it’s important to know
00:24:30 | What drives us to burnout (without us realizing it)?
00:26:37 | Burnout versus Overextension and why it’s important to know the difference
00:31:17 | How to know your degree of burnout
00:42:05 | What are protective patterns when dealing with burnout
00:48:53 | How we can be burned out even without a job
00:53:04 | What is Burnout Immunity and how to develop it
00:58:48 | How to self-regulate and change your mindset
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