It seemed to start well, and the ending could've been interesting, but it was just filled with convolution out the ass between those points. I like the idea of Superman not drinking alcohol, though, it shows him as more childish or wanting to stay pure or kind or something. I dunno, symbolism, I guess.
"Louis, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship." "Oh, my god. What is it with you?" "I'll be right...here." "Oh, my god. What is it with you?" "Oh, no. It wasn't the airplanes. It was Beauty killed the Beast." "Oh, my god. What is it with you?" "The name's Bond. James Bond." "Oh, my god. What is it with you?"
@@dreamlandnightmare Batman v Superman : You said the others like me would have to fight why, Just a Feeling, Oh My God What Is With You Man Of Steel : Welcome to the Planet Clark Kent, It's Good to be here Lois, Oh My God What Is With You The Spongebob Squarepants Movie : Manager this is the greatest day of my LIFE, Oh My God What Is With You
Goyer said that because that's where it was at the time. Trying to revive Tim Burton's Batman and Richard Donner's Superman after forever and robin was a bad idea. The latest movie we got was not situated that way. Just bad timing, surrounded by marvel movie loving cunts, internet hacks, know-it-all bull shits and sjws 😁
I think the whole thing about toy bees and Joker clones is what kills this. I love the idea of Batman almost achieving peace and having it snatched from him at the last minute ala Mask of the Phantasm, but this ain't the real pig.
While some aspects like the dialogue sounded pretty cool and dark (like Bruce talking about the increasing temptation to kill criminals in an act of revenge instead of justice) I'm glad we didn't get this movie because then we never would've gotten Nolan's Batman trilogy
I feel this would’ve had a similar tone to other 2004 CBM like The Punisher, Hellboy and Blade Trinity. I know for a fact that people would’ve ate it up as the most badass film in the late 2000s in early days of UA-cam with tributes playing “Let the Bodies Hit the Floor” or “Wake Me Up” in their videos. And perhaps be resurrected as an underappreciated film they grew up with. Like, if people are now defending Fantastic Four, Hulk and Catwoman, it’s very likely this film would’ve gained a fanbase. Also, the plot is nowhere near as convoluted as Lex’s plan in BvS. I’ll take Lex making a unstably broken Batman snapping so Superman to stop him over… [Insert Lex’s plan from BvS Honest Trailer vid]
Why I like the 2002 "Asylum" script better than the movie we got: - It embraces the comic tone and balances the darker tone. - Batman and Superman reasons to fight is more clear. - Lex Luthor is comic accurate and not Jesse Isenberg's version. - The Joker is a faithful version than Jated Leto's and more like Mark Hamil. - The fight scene was much cooler. - Colin Farrell would've been a casted as Batman. And Christian Bale was also considered to be Superman as well. Good choices. - There's no politician arguments scenes. - No forced religious subtexts. - Doesn't rush to set a cinematic universe in one movie. - Not overthinking the plot - No Pee Pee jar - Batman doesn't kill and learns at the end why he shouldn't kill. - Superman doesn't die at the end. - Lois Lane doesn't take up half the movie's screentime. - Nice nods and references to the prior movies and comics. - And more importantly, NO "MARTHA!"
@@deadschooled No he didn't. In Batman Returns he's a borderline sociopathic murderer; he kills people, sets a guy on fire, and literally sticks dynamite on a poor mook, and viciously _grins_ at the prospect of the bastard being blown to bits. Batman V Superman tries to give it reason, but it collides with the whole "Martha" scene and ruins it, and even when he redemns himself, he still slaughter people during the warehouse scene.
The best batman stories are the darker ones. Hes a dark character, hes not spiderman. And if your a batman fan you know hes got some real physiological problems and has always had the urge to kill all his enemies, which is why he doesn't. He knows it will turn him into a mass murderer. Both both this script and bvs take inspiration from the dark knight returns where he has lost a lot of people and lost his way and does murder. It takes fighting superman to remind him he shouldn't. It's a story arc. Its character development. Stop the shit with my batman doesn't kill. Then your batman has strictly been in the cartoons because in a lot of storylines he has. Also he may not murder people, but in all iterations of batman he puts people in situations knowing they can die and chooses not to save them. Technically murdering them. An all smiley batman wouldnt work in film
He has one in BvS the man of steel final act that was fuckin' awesome alot of pansies felt it was too excessive and it was described as "destruction porn" So much so that these soft lilies actually got to ZS and the beginning of BvS and all the destruction,the argument was that the real saving cats out of trees Superman wouldn't have done that or cleared the city , So basically alot of people died in man of steel I guess they missed the fact that from our perspective Zod was a terrorist and this was a terror attack intended for the entire planet....anyway his buddy that he called died and lil girls parents died not to mention thousands of civilians....I wish they'd have really doubled down on the sheer amount of death the Kryptonian terrorist caused and the fact that this was first contact and Batman couldn't do a damn thing to save almost anyone so that coupled with Robin being murdered has Batman loosing it for real....they made a prequel comic which they should have filmed it and released it online before mivie....but they should have let us know from the beginning that Lex knows Batman and Superman identities he's spying on them an orchestrates events to cause them pain and public shaming the attack in Africa at the beginning was one of lex design so we have the hearing and the notes taunting Batman for his inability to help during the biggest terror attack ever while leaking info to him about 'white porchaguise' (location of kryptonite).....Zach should have also had some scenes with the Russian and lex together letting us know that he knew Bruce was stealing info from his phone during the boxing match....Batman is starting to snap going super excessive with criminals burning the guy which gets him killed in prison (by a prisoner paid by lex)..lex sends these pics to Clark of inmate dead blaming Batman's brand for his murder pissing Clark off they meet when bruce goes for kryptonite Superman tells him to stop the vigilante shit .....okay now for the record alot of this comes across better in the ULTIMATE CUT and while still only explicitly revealing lex orchastrated the whole getting them pissed at each other it's late and Jessie eisenberg is not the best actor and definitely a shitty lex so it still doesn't sink in all the way the UC shows more Clark Kent and his reporter intent to stop all the vigilante violence in Gotham and UC also let's us know that lex planted the bomb in dudes wheelchair figured out too late by Louise but its only in UC
Big fan of the videos...but it seems very misleading to point out Akiva Goldsman's worst credits without pointing out he won a screenwriting Oscar in 2002. His selection makes a lot more sense in light of his Oscar win. Likewise I'm not sure the intent in only listing "The Never Ending Story" as what Wolfgang Peterson was known for, but he'd done a series of hit movies throughout the 90s including the action blockbuster Air Force One. I know it plays for an amusing moment to present WB as wanting a Batman Vs Superman movie written by the writer of Batman & Robin and directed by the guy who gave us the weird german fantasy film The NeverEnding Story, BUT it's far more likely that the WB executives were thinking from, "Oscar winning Akiva Goldsman and the director of action hits such as Air Force One." But a more holistic perspective on their selection is that WB seemed to ignore their faults and focused on their highlights. Your summary seemed to focus on their faults and ignored their highlights.
The works of Oscar-winning screenwriter Akiva Goldsman: Batman & Robin, Lost in Space, A Beautiful Mind (Academy Award for Best Adapted Screenplay!!!), The Da Vinci Code, I Am Legend, Angels & Demons, Winter's Tale, The Divergent Series: Insurgent, The 5th Wave, Rings, Transformers: The Last Knight, The Dark Tower. 💩💩🏆💩💩💩
atomicdancer sure. But that’s 2017 century 20-20 hindsight. At the time the decision was made to bring him on, he just won an Oscar. He wasn’t hired because Batman and Robin did poorly or because 5 years in the future he’d write More crap. He was hired because he just won an Oscar and was associated with Batman
This movie actually sounded a lot better than BvS, but everything fell apart for me when The Joker Clone entered the fight and then Lex Luthor and that final line at the end from Batman. I think Lex Luthor’s plan was far more understandable (and no Doomsday) in this movie than the plan used in BvS
Yea I kind of agree. Starts out decent but the Joker clones and fabricated perfect girl were just weird. If they had just made Bruce’s wife a regular girl he fell in love with and Joker having lived just hiding it could have been good. No superpowered henchmen either but could leave Lex in his mecharmor as it is kind of iconic and would have fit the time. Just make it a movie where Lex and Joker team up and manipulate the two and end with the fight between Batman and Superman then the two teaming up to stop Lex and Joker. That would have been great, kind of a cross between this script and World’s Finest from the Superman animated series.
My only justification for the joker clone is that if this is indeed the Tim burton batman then yeah he totally died in that movie and would need to be cloned
Just make it that it was actually the Robin that "died". Have some flashback or something where the Joker used some new Joker gas or something on him before dying and then Robin "died" but actually went crazy and went underground for a few years before popping back up as the new Joker
I really liked the dialogue of Batman explaining that he is exhausted from the justice because it's our weakness " a human thing" but over the plot feels ok. I think Zack Snyder made a great vision to portrayed these to comic book icons we actually saw the DC trinity Batman Superman wonder woman which once in a life time experience . I like the cancelled script but the actual movie that Zack brought us is even better
The Sean Ward Show the goat's influence is noticeable especially when he says "the perfect woman" but because he read that from the script I see it as his own thing, thank God for bad and lazy writing
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Batman and Superman VS Aliens and Predators Your comment reminded me of it, and I thought you'd like to know that was a thing that exists in the real world.
They would be great tag-team partners. Predator gets the spines, Batman gets the skins. Nothing of the victims goes to waste. I think Batman thinks of himself as Buffalo Bill. Probably spending time in Wayne Manors with Dick tucked between his thighs while collecting human skin for his new cape.
I like that this movie acknowledged that they've known each other for years whereas the movie we actually got even though they portrayed an older Bruce Wayne has them never meeting until they fight. So from that standpoint I definitely prefer the premise of the film not made. And having luthor use the joker to set off Batman makes perfect sense. Also the only person luthor has ever acknowledged as possibly being smarter than him is Batman. So makes sense he'd try to get him to take out superman. Now having said that we all know a good premise doesn't always translate on film. So who knows???
How could anyone dislike this video? I love your channel so much. Also I think the final line should of been, “sounds nice.” Or something like that. Showing that Batman is the friend he’s always been missing. The actual line sounds kinda mean and out of character
Hunter C Actually I kinda like it, it just needs to be said in a more joking tone, like he chuckles while saying it. Shows that they're friends, but still tonal opposites.
Youre right about it being really hard to tell whether or not a movie would be any good after reading a script. I think this could've been made into a pretty good movie with some tweaking. The plot is needlessly complex, which is a common problem with bad writers who try to be clever. Then again, it's tough to come up with a reason for Batman and Superman to fight each other, despite what a lot of people think. They're best friends, and even if they weren't, they're both heroes who ultimately have the same goals.
Not only does this movie sounds worse than the BvS that we got, this feels more like a toy selling scheme than a movie. I can picture Superman, Batman, two superpowered henchman, Joker, Lex Luthor and his armor all at a shelf with maybe the dickhead co worker as a bonus
so you can't image that but you can picture luthor,batman,superman,wonder woman,doomsday,death of superman,dark knight returns and justice league intros
Wham-A-Wham that's exactly what I said when I left BvS. It fell as if Zack ripped a couple of pages from the DKR, DoS and some random New 52 shit and used that as the storyboard for the movie
Wham-A-Wham jesus no. The movie had a couple of great scenes but all the nonsense completely overshadows it. If you took out all the dumb "muh universe" and dumb subplots from the movie and rework the entire 3rd act you could have something better but alas here we are Ps. Apparently Justice League isn't great but isn't BvS and SS levels of bad. I'm gonna wait for the release of the movie to see more if they can convince me to watch it or not
acekianno velasco No. That would be as equally silly as leaving out that he’d just won an Oscar. The video makes it seem like WB was making bizarre picks by selecting a guy who’s ONLY written bad scripts and they got a director ONLY known for a German fantasy film in the 80s That’s a terrible mid-characterization if both of their resumes at the time. One had just won an Oscar and the other had a series of hits in the 90s. That sort holistic perspective is kind of assumed to be present in videos like this
I mean, I was shocked to see him mention Neverending Story as his biggest credit. What about Das Boot? Maybe not a huge box office success or that popular among kids/young adults but a huge critical success. What about In the Line of Fire? Outbreak? Air Force One? And of course The Perfect Storm and Troy like you mentioned. Although I think Peterson got attached as director in 2001 which was before Troy.
Honestly, I think Batman Begins and Superman Returns should’ve led up to Batman v Superman. Bale and Routh were the perfect age to build a shared universe off for the next decade plus.
Dude I stumbled upon your channel looking for information about this movie because I remember hearing about it as a kid... your summary at the end with all the footage and everything made me feel as if I saw this movie for real. Instantly subscribed. Keep it up man. I love it
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Terry Gilliam’s Watchmen, Daren Aronofsky’s Batman: Year One, The Justin Hartley Aquaman show, the Daredevil reboot from Fox, Quentin Tarantino’s Luke Cage, Ghostbusters III, Batman Triumphant.
BvS also established Superman as a killer in his very first scene, so... I don’t see how that works either. All around, I think I prefer the broad strokes of this script more, and I also like the third act described as it doesn’t revolve around Marthas. Batman is a hell of a lot more understandable, and actually has a no-killing rule. It just seems more faithful and less dull.
you edit that, oh my God what is it with you, so perfectly I thought I was actually watching a small glimpse of the recording of that movie. I give you credit 👍👌
I actually like the sound of this film MUCH MORE than what we got!!! This actually seems like an awesome flick!!! I would have thoroughly loved this. This would have been much more like what we got in the comics, and it's a good way to incorporate the villains, etc. And it is such a better way to make them fight each other than that lame idea from 'Dawn of Justice'.
Here's my take -The film is received with mixed reviews saying the movie is dark, but nice -Despite this the film makes a good profit -Due to this film the Dark Knight trilogy does not happen -Same with superman returns -A sequel gets planned but cancelled -Because of that, it's possible that Justice league: Mortal will happen most Likely not connected to the previous films -WB will start a cinematic universe, beating Marvel
I think I would have liked this movie. I actually think if Batman vs Superman came out in the mid 00s it would have been more popular than the one we ultimately got.
Batman vs. Superman was supposed to be released in 2010 with Christian Bale vs. Brandon Routh. Batman Begins was released in 2005 and Superman Returns was released in 2006.
I think that this movie would have been great if they had used Bale as Batman and Routh as Superman, it would be awesome to see those two on the big screen as Bats and Supes. This movie would´ve been better than the 2016 BvS, no doubt.
I think this would've been awesome.......but, unlike most people, I loved BvS. I like the grittiness and dark edge as opposed to the Marvel silliness, but that's my own taste.
It sounded amazing! I think it would have been dope! It’s a true Batman story. If they keep softening Batman and joker up it defeats the purpose to even make comic book movies. The villains and some hero’s are psychopaths so blood and gore come with the territory.
"They punch for a bit then they're mates"
I love their bromance chemistry :D
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Sounds like a better BVS movie
“He utters the final line of the film - WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME”
It seemed to start well, and the ending could've been interesting, but it was just filled with convolution out the ass between those points. I like the idea of Superman not drinking alcohol, though, it shows him as more childish or wanting to stay pure or kind or something. I dunno, symbolism, I guess.
Will Brownman Alcohol wouldn’t even affect him, so why even bother. Supes and Flash both have this issue
OreoBrawl It's more of a how of moral, to me. Even if it doesn't affect him, it still broadcasts a message to the audience.
Wow that line where Bruce tells Clark why he retired was actually great. I think this script got Batman pretty well
So, you wanna get a beer, Clark?
No, I don’t drink
what about a soda?
OH MY GOD..WHAT IS IT WITH YOU? (fade to black or very dark grey)
Trevor Cutler I don’t drink, you know that!
SILENCE!
Can you imagine how many films would be improved with that final line?
"Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown."
"Oh my god, what is it with you???"
"Louis, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship."
"Oh, my god. What is it with you?"
"I'll be right...here."
"Oh, my god. What is it with you?"
"Oh, no. It wasn't the airplanes. It was Beauty killed the Beast."
"Oh, my god. What is it with you?"
"The name's Bond. James Bond."
"Oh, my god. What is it with you?"
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Avengers Endgame : You gonna tell me about her, no I don't think I will, Oh my God what is it with you
@@jedimasteroptimusprime4375 "I love you 3000."
"Oh, my god, what is it with you?"
@@dreamlandnightmare Batman v Superman : You said the others like me would have to fight why, Just a Feeling, Oh My God What Is With You
Man Of Steel : Welcome to the Planet Clark Kent, It's Good to be here Lois, Oh My God What Is With You
The Spongebob Squarepants Movie : Manager this is the greatest day of my LIFE, Oh My God What Is With You
That David S Goyer comment didn't age well LOL.
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Liam Robertson - Game History Guy What do you expect David Goyer sucks.
He ain't wrong tho
He wasn’t wrong though
Goyer said that because that's where it was at the time. Trying to revive Tim Burton's Batman and Richard Donner's Superman after forever and robin was a bad idea. The latest movie we got was not situated that way. Just bad timing, surrounded by marvel movie loving cunts, internet hacks, know-it-all bull shits and sjws 😁
That 'fighting batman's vengeful bloodlust' plot is 100 times more logical/believable than the one we actually got.
anybody remember the Superman animated series BvS team up? man that was awesome "
paul Z dc still rules in animated
Worlds finest crossover ?
Hell yeah that shit was awesome.
Worlds finest was better than Batman V Superman.
they were not ennemys in thoses episodes they were almost a team.
A little bit of both.
They defiantly had a rivalry in world's finest because of the love triangle between Lois lane.
That was actually closely based on Frank miller's classic Batman Returns and was very good.
I think the whole thing about toy bees and Joker clones is what kills this. I love the idea of Batman almost achieving peace and having it snatched from him at the last minute ala Mask of the Phantasm, but this ain't the real pig.
While some aspects like the dialogue sounded pretty cool and dark (like Bruce talking about the increasing temptation to kill criminals in an act of revenge instead of justice) I'm glad we didn't get this movie because then we never would've gotten Nolan's Batman trilogy
Yea that thing about killing was so cool
Nolan trilogy?
PrincessScotchtape how young are you...?
@PrincessScotchtape Batman begins, Dark knight, and The Dark knight rises
Honestly this hilariously edgy and dark yet comic booky and convoluted movie would of been amazing in a shlocky sort of way
I feel this would’ve had a similar tone to other 2004 CBM like The Punisher, Hellboy and Blade Trinity. I know for a fact that people would’ve ate it up as the most badass film in the late 2000s in early days of UA-cam with tributes playing “Let the Bodies Hit the Floor” or “Wake Me Up” in their videos. And perhaps be resurrected as an underappreciated film they grew up with. Like, if people are now defending Fantastic Four, Hulk and Catwoman, it’s very likely this film would’ve gained a fanbase.
Also, the plot is nowhere near as convoluted as Lex’s plan in BvS. I’ll take Lex making a unstably broken Batman snapping so Superman to stop him over… [Insert Lex’s plan from BvS Honest Trailer vid]
2004: wAiT fOR iNfiNitY wAR
lol man
Lol
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CaptainAmericYang I don’t get it
No Wait for ENDGAME
Why I like the 2002 "Asylum" script better than the movie we got:
- It embraces the comic tone and balances the darker tone.
- Batman and Superman reasons to fight is more clear.
- Lex Luthor is comic accurate and not Jesse Isenberg's version.
- The Joker is a faithful version than Jated Leto's and more like Mark Hamil.
- The fight scene was much cooler.
- Colin Farrell would've been a casted as Batman. And Christian Bale was also considered to be Superman as well. Good choices.
- There's no politician arguments scenes.
- No forced religious subtexts.
- Doesn't rush to set a cinematic
universe in one movie.
- Not overthinking the plot
- No Pee Pee jar
- Batman doesn't kill and learns at the end why he shouldn't kill.
- Superman doesn't die at the end.
- Lois Lane doesn't take up half the movie's screentime.
- Nice nods and references to the prior movies and comics.
- And more importantly, NO "MARTHA!"
I'll give it this. At least Batman has a motivation for wanting to kill.
@@deadschooled
No he didn't.
In Batman Returns he's a borderline sociopathic murderer; he kills people, sets a guy on fire, and literally sticks dynamite on a poor mook, and viciously _grins_ at the prospect of the bastard being blown to bits.
Batman V Superman tries to give it reason, but it collides with the whole "Martha" scene and ruins it, and even when he redemns himself, he still slaughter people during the warehouse scene.
The best batman stories are the darker ones. Hes a dark character, hes not spiderman. And if your a batman fan you know hes got some real physiological problems and has always had the urge to kill all his enemies, which is why he doesn't. He knows it will turn him into a mass murderer. Both both this script and bvs take inspiration from the dark knight returns where he has lost a lot of people and lost his way and does murder. It takes fighting superman to remind him he shouldn't. It's a story arc. Its character development. Stop the shit with my batman doesn't kill. Then your batman has strictly been in the cartoons because in a lot of storylines he has. Also he may not murder people, but in all iterations of batman he puts people in situations knowing they can die and chooses not to save them. Technically murdering them. An all smiley batman wouldnt work in film
DEADSCHOOLED Too bad Christopher Nolan’s films didn’t sync with DCEU...!?
Dan tbh though, Spider-Man does is a dark - light character
He has one in BvS the man of steel final act that was fuckin' awesome alot of pansies felt it was too excessive and it was described as "destruction porn" So much so that these soft lilies actually got to ZS and the beginning of BvS and all the destruction,the argument was that the real saving cats out of trees Superman wouldn't have done that or cleared the city , So basically alot of people died in man of steel I guess they missed the fact that from our perspective Zod was a terrorist and this was a terror attack intended for the entire planet....anyway his buddy that he called died and lil girls parents died not to mention thousands of civilians....I wish they'd have really doubled down on the sheer amount of death the Kryptonian terrorist caused and the fact that this was first contact and Batman couldn't do a damn thing to save almost anyone so that coupled with Robin being murdered has Batman loosing it for real....they made a prequel comic which they should have filmed it and released it online before mivie....but they should have let us know from the beginning that Lex knows Batman and Superman identities he's spying on them an orchestrates events to cause them pain and public shaming the attack in Africa at the beginning was one of lex design so we have the hearing and the notes taunting Batman for his inability to help during the biggest terror attack ever while leaking info to him about 'white porchaguise' (location of kryptonite).....Zach should have also had some scenes with the Russian and lex together letting us know that he knew Bruce was stealing info from his phone during the boxing match....Batman is starting to snap going super excessive with criminals burning the guy which gets him killed in prison (by a prisoner paid by lex)..lex sends these pics to Clark of inmate dead blaming Batman's brand for his murder pissing Clark off they meet when bruce goes for kryptonite Superman tells him to stop the vigilante shit .....okay now for the record alot of this comes across better in the ULTIMATE CUT and while still only explicitly revealing lex orchastrated the whole getting them pissed at each other it's late and Jessie eisenberg is not the best actor and definitely a shitty lex so it still doesn't sink in all the way the UC shows more Clark Kent and his reporter intent to stop all the vigilante violence in Gotham and UC also let's us know that lex planted the bomb in dudes wheelchair figured out too late by Louise but its only in UC
Big fan of the videos...but it seems very misleading to point out Akiva Goldsman's worst credits without pointing out he won a screenwriting Oscar in 2002. His selection makes a lot more sense in light of his Oscar win.
Likewise I'm not sure the intent in only listing "The Never Ending Story" as what Wolfgang Peterson was known for, but he'd done a series of hit movies throughout the 90s including the action blockbuster Air Force One.
I know it plays for an amusing moment to present WB as wanting a Batman Vs Superman movie written by the writer of Batman & Robin and directed by the guy who gave us the weird german fantasy film The NeverEnding Story, BUT it's far more likely that the WB executives were thinking from, "Oscar winning Akiva Goldsman and the director of action hits such as Air Force One."
But a more holistic perspective on their selection is that WB seemed to ignore their faults and focused on their highlights. Your summary seemed to focus on their faults and ignored their highlights.
The works of Oscar-winning screenwriter Akiva Goldsman:
Batman & Robin, Lost in Space, A Beautiful Mind (Academy Award for Best Adapted Screenplay!!!), The Da Vinci Code, I Am Legend, Angels & Demons, Winter's Tale, The Divergent Series: Insurgent, The 5th Wave, Rings, Transformers: The Last Knight, The Dark Tower. 💩💩🏆💩💩💩
atomicdancer sure. But that’s 2017 century 20-20 hindsight. At the time the decision was made to bring him on, he just won an Oscar. He wasn’t hired because Batman and Robin did poorly or because 5 years in the future he’d write
More crap.
He was hired because he just won an Oscar and was associated with Batman
He also did Das Boot by then.
Shut up
This movie actually sounded a lot better than BvS, but everything fell apart for me when The Joker Clone entered the fight and then Lex Luthor and that final line at the end from Batman. I think Lex Luthor’s plan was far more understandable (and no Doomsday) in this movie than the plan used in BvS
Yea I kind of agree. Starts out decent but the Joker clones and fabricated perfect girl were just weird. If they had just made Bruce’s wife a regular girl he fell in love with and Joker having lived just hiding it could have been good. No superpowered henchmen either but could leave Lex in his mecharmor as it is kind of iconic and would have fit the time.
Just make it a movie where Lex and Joker team up and manipulate the two and end with the fight between Batman and Superman then the two teaming up to stop Lex and Joker. That would have been great, kind of a cross between this script and World’s Finest from the Superman animated series.
My only justification for the joker clone is that if this is indeed the Tim burton batman then yeah he totally died in that movie and would need to be cloned
I agree but I loved the ending when Clark and Bruce reunite as bros again
Just make it that it was actually the Robin that "died". Have some flashback or something where the Joker used some new Joker gas or something on him before dying and then Robin "died" but actually went crazy and went underground for a few years before popping back up as the new Joker
yeah fuck the jokerclone. If this was RObin turnedjoker thatd be rad
I really liked the dialogue of Batman explaining that he is exhausted from the justice because it's our weakness " a human thing" but over the plot feels ok. I think Zack Snyder made a great vision to portrayed these to comic book icons we actually saw the DC trinity Batman Superman wonder woman which once in a life time experience . I like the cancelled script but the actual movie that Zack brought us is even better
no. Its one of the worst movies ever
@@ravenouspuncherthis would be too with killer batman
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The Sean Ward Show the goat's influence is noticeable especially when he says "the perfect woman" but because he read that from the script I see it as his own thing, thank God for bad and lazy writing
"But he's deaaaaaaad, you said he was deaaaaaad"
Go into space...
And they punch for a bit
“They punch for a bit..... then they become mates”
Man, if this would’ve prevented the Dark Knight trilogy, I’d burn this project to the ground myself.
Nice name
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Who does Batman think he is? The Predator?
Batman and Superman VS Aliens and Predators
Your comment reminded me of it, and I thought you'd like to know that was a thing that exists in the real world.
DC's wacky ass crossovers
He's the goddamn Batman.
They would be great tag-team partners. Predator gets the spines, Batman gets the skins. Nothing of the victims goes to waste. I think Batman thinks of himself as Buffalo Bill. Probably spending time in Wayne Manors with Dick tucked between his thighs while collecting human skin for his new cape.
ComiXProvider FTW_02 I like your superior iron man profile pic
I like that this movie acknowledged that they've known each other for years whereas the movie we actually got even though they portrayed an older Bruce Wayne has them never meeting until they fight. So from that standpoint I definitely prefer the premise of the film not made. And having luthor use the joker to set off Batman makes perfect sense. Also the only person luthor has ever acknowledged as possibly being smarter than him is Batman. So makes sense he'd try to get him to take out superman. Now having said that we all know a good premise doesn't always translate on film. So who knows???
I would've love to see this movie...
Lex fighting Superman and Batman in an Exo-Suit? Sounds Amazing!
A crossover is admitting your franchise is on its last gasp
Marvel in 2008: Hold my fuckin beer.
I would have loved to see a Batman vs Superman movie with Christian Bale and Brandon Ralph
I love how that one dude basically implied a crossover is a cheap idea. Boy how naive that guy was
How could anyone dislike this video? I love your channel so much.
Also I think the final line should of been, “sounds nice.” Or something like that. Showing that Batman is the friend he’s always been missing. The actual line sounds kinda mean and out of character
+Hunter C Thanks dude! Comments like these keep the videos going strong
Hunter C Actually I kinda like it, it just needs to be said in a more joking tone, like he chuckles while saying it. Shows that they're friends, but still tonal opposites.
The line sounds like something from a teenage chick flick. Or something Joss Whedon would write (=shit).
It is the way he reads.
Kiwis1nvasion You mean Snyder.
Youre right about it being really hard to tell whether or not a movie would be any good after reading a script. I think this could've been made into a pretty good movie with some tweaking. The plot is needlessly complex, which is a common problem with bad writers who try to be clever. Then again, it's tough to come up with a reason for Batman and Superman to fight each other, despite what a lot of people think. They're best friends, and even if they weren't, they're both heroes who ultimately have the same goals.
Not only does this movie sounds worse than the BvS that we got, this feels more like a toy selling scheme than a movie. I can picture Superman, Batman, two superpowered henchman, Joker, Lex Luthor and his armor all at a shelf with maybe the dickhead co worker as a bonus
Earth Fire Water You could imagine this, because it already happened
so you can't image that but you can picture luthor,batman,superman,wonder woman,doomsday,death of superman,dark knight returns and justice league intros
Wham-A-Wham that's exactly what I said when I left BvS. It fell as if Zack ripped a couple of pages from the DKR, DoS and some random New 52 shit and used that as the storyboard for the movie
Earth Fire Water yeah can't tell which is more shitty, my apologies I thought you were defending BvS
Wham-A-Wham jesus no. The movie had a couple of great scenes but all the nonsense completely overshadows it. If you took out all the dumb "muh universe" and dumb subplots from the movie and rework the entire 3rd act you could have something better but alas here we are
Ps. Apparently Justice League isn't great but isn't BvS and SS levels of bad. I'm gonna wait for the release of the movie to see more if they can convince me to watch it or not
Bruce, it’s been five years you still owe me $16!
Akita Goldsman had just won an Oscar for A Beautiful Mind and Wolfgang Peterson had just done The Perfect Storm and Troy
Yep. I really like the channel, but that was a HUGE missed point in this video.
akiva goldsman is not bad at all A beatiful mind is so good
acekianno velasco No. That would be as equally silly as leaving out that he’d just won an Oscar.
The video makes it seem like WB was making bizarre picks by selecting a guy who’s ONLY written bad scripts and they got a director ONLY known for a German fantasy film in the 80s
That’s a terrible mid-characterization if both of their resumes at the time.
One had just won an Oscar and the other had a series of hits in the 90s.
That sort holistic perspective is kind of assumed to be present in videos like this
I mean, I was shocked to see him mention Neverending Story as his biggest credit. What about Das Boot? Maybe not a huge box office success or that popular among kids/young adults but a huge critical success. What about In the Line of Fire? Outbreak? Air Force One? And of course The Perfect Storm and Troy like you mentioned. Although I think Peterson got attached as director in 2001 which was before Troy.
but since then he only worked on shitty movies divergent ,dark tower exct..his name associated with shit 99% of the time
I would have loved to see this movie as an introduction to Brandon Routh's Superman and Christian Bale's Batman
Honestly, I think Batman Begins and Superman Returns should’ve led up to Batman v Superman. Bale and Routh were the perfect age to build a shared universe off for the next decade plus.
Dude I stumbled upon your channel looking for information about this movie because I remember hearing about it as a kid... your summary at the end with all the footage and everything made me feel as if I saw this movie for real. Instantly subscribed. Keep it up man. I love it
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Wasn't there a cancelled Wonder Woman tv show with Adrianne Palicki?
Kubrick's Napoleon
Terry Gilliam’s Watchmen, Daren Aronofsky’s Batman: Year One, The Justin Hartley Aquaman show, the Daredevil reboot from Fox, Quentin Tarantino’s Luke Cage, Ghostbusters III, Batman Triumphant.
LOTR with the Beatles
Some of the cancelled Alien or Predator Projects!
Fun fact: collin farrel now plays penguin in the batman (2022)
man that script was awful
metalbalance I agree, but the character motivations make so much more sense than BvS Yawn of Justice
BvS also established Superman as a killer in his very first scene, so... I don’t see how that works either. All around, I think I prefer the broad strokes of this script more, and I also like the third act described as it doesn’t revolve around Marthas. Batman is a hell of a lot more understandable, and actually has a no-killing rule. It just seems more faithful and less dull.
+George I'd rather take a cyanide pill than watch this horrible script
Rtkts I guess he really really liked his wife.
But it would have been better than the bvs we got.
Fun Fact: The Lego Movie was the first time Batman and Superman, appeared in a Cinematic Movie together!
it seems more like batman movie than BvS
Pro: I'd have watched, I'd still watch it.
Con: it may have cost us the dark knight trilogy.
this fucking script is amazing next to the James Cameron spiderman
you edit that, oh my God what is it with you, so perfectly I thought I was actually watching a small glimpse of the recording of that movie.
I give you credit 👍👌
Maybe they should make it an animated movie
cole shields That would be a interesting idea.
You can watch an animated version of mr Sunday and maso talking about it on mr Sunday’s channel
lets start a petition to get "batman and superman talk out their differences" made
How you be makin dem videoes so good?
This seems like it would’ve been really good
Superman: Damn you're dark....
Batman: Yeah I Know!
Superman: Ok I'm gonna go now.....
Batman and Superman Talk Out Their Differences
Weird moral question; is killing the joker wrong IF it's just a clone?
Depends if you think he’s a real person or just a mad science experiment that thinks he’s real
To me this actually sounds good except the bee part
If Elizabeth had a can of Raid, Lex's plan would have fallen completely apart.
I actually like the sound of this film MUCH MORE than what we got!!! This actually seems like an awesome flick!!! I would have thoroughly loved this. This would have been much more like what we got in the comics, and it's a good way to incorporate the villains, etc. And it is such a better way to make them fight each other than that lame idea from 'Dawn of Justice'.
Holy crap that short speech Bruce gave about retiring from crime fighting was just perfect
A better story than the one we got in theaters
I've been binge watching you're videos lately and I noticed the instrumentals you use are absolute fire, the content is great as well
i really enjoyed the script but the bee and the granite parts were a little silly
I remember hearing about this years ago and it's hilarious how similar some aspects are to the BVS we actually got.
I like this script, it got a bit choppy.... But it has a gritty feel. I just like grit
Wolfgang Peterson also directed Air Force one, dad boot , in the line of fire and the perfect storm before this btw
this Batman reminds me of Kevin Conroy's Batman in The DC Arrowverse
the idea for that movie would've been way better than the one we have.
Here's my take
-The film is received with mixed reviews saying the movie is dark, but nice
-Despite this the film makes a good profit
-Due to this film the Dark Knight trilogy does not happen
-Same with superman returns
-A sequel gets planned but cancelled
-Because of that, it's possible that Justice league: Mortal will happen most Likely not connected to the previous films
-WB will start a cinematic universe, beating Marvel
Your prediction of what coulda happened if they actually made this film is quite accurate mane, one luh ❤✊🏿
10:09 that popped kettle-corn line had me dyin'
sounded dope to me. I always enjoyed the darker side of comic book characters.
Would have loved to see a dark Knight style Batman going up against a Superman Returns style Supes.
I remember seeing the logo in the movie i am legend
I've always imagined that the version they got in that Reality starred Christopher Reeve and Michael Keaton.
So, that explains the poster in I am legend
I would’ve liked this much more than the one we got
That movie sounds like it would've been way better than Batman vs Superman Dawn Of Justice
I enjoyed this a lot. Maybe in another universe.
Like, the Pattinson universe?
I don't like the Goyer version of Batman v Superman but I do love the Zack Snyder's Batman v Superman Ultimate Cut that we got.
So Goyer has indirectly admitted that he's a sellout / hack as a screenwriter? Heh.
nothus I cant believe they still hire that dude.
At least Batman doesn’t actually kill anyone like in Batman V Superman. It’s the exact same fucking movie
Tbh, on my opinion , I would’ve love this film a lot 😂
Just found your channel....it’s great, thank you so much for all the hard work....
I think this movie sounds great! I would have loved to have watched it.
I think I would have liked this movie. I actually think if Batman vs Superman came out in the mid 00s it would have been more popular than the one we ultimately got.
Only if it wouldv been micheal keaton and christopher reeves
Batman vs. Superman was supposed to be released in 2010 with Christian Bale vs. Brandon Routh.
Batman Begins was released in 2005 and Superman Returns was released in 2006.
you are my new favorite channel... even the old movies are awesome !!! keep up the amazing job!!! im a fan!
I wonder who they would of casted as the joker and lex Luther
I dont think i would have liked this film but im glad to know it exists.
this movie would have been better than the one we got!!!! :(
r u joking
True. I think lex plan here was more logical compare to lex in dawn of justice.
I think that this movie would have been great if they had used Bale as Batman and Routh as Superman, it would be awesome to see those two on the big screen as Bats and Supes. This movie would´ve been better than the 2016 BvS, no doubt.
I would prefer this from the one we got
No Martha in this one.
Honestly if they went with Lorenzo’s plan… DC could’ve had a much better cinematic universe
I think this would've been awesome.......but, unlike most people, I loved BvS.
I like the grittiness and dark edge as opposed to the Marvel silliness, but that's my own taste.
I think I would’ve like that as a “Else-world” story line.
No Martha ? already a better movie!
The fart sounds when going over Akiva Goldsman's filmography is my favourite part of this video
Do Aquaman & Wonder Woman tv pilots?
Aww man that office fight scene was hilarious
It sounded amazing! I think it would have been dope! It’s a true Batman story. If they keep softening Batman and joker up it defeats the purpose to even make comic book movies. The villains and some hero’s are psychopaths so blood and gore come with the territory.
I feel like the final dialogue of this movie I had more character than all of dawn of justice
So True.
You won't see this but I would have loved it!!! Not as much as this channel tho one change to the script though Grayson lives leaves Gotham Jason dies
I actually kind of love that final line
As is, no. Although it does have a few very solid elements to it. But the clone nonsense and the Lex power armor are entirely too cheesy!
7:15 "But the Joker is DEEEEAAD! You said he was DEEEEAAAAAADDD!"
"Oh my god, what is it with you?" (My thought about Zach Snider)
I was pretty happy with Batman V Superman Dawn Of Justice Ultimate Cut
thank god it was canccellled because we now have bvs and another dceu movies