I’m at 825 rwhp on my 17 with a ported lt4 blower, cam, upgraded fuel system, LT’s, pullies, TB, e60 so probably a good candidate for one of these lids so looking forward to ur next test.
I just put the dsx lid on my 18 ctsv. It has way more whine. I like that it fits under the strut brace. I would recommend for any v owners. Edit. I had a rotofab and a catch can on it for 20k miles. I took off the factory silencer plate from the lid when i did it. I could barely hear it. Now it's nice. Not too obnoxious like my friends trx.
I bought an mpi lid for my zl1 strictly for cosmetic reasons for car shows. Noticed a bit more wine but no significant gains as expected. I currently have Roto-Fab non big gulp, 95 mm throttle body, and flex fuel and tune. Topped out at about 622rwhp. Great content! Looking forward to seeing what BAD Pumpkin does next!!!😎👊
As you have seen, there isn't one single lid that does the trick. Rather, I think they help along with other mods like larger HX, HX expansion tanks, etc...
I have the DSX lid on my 2016 Z06. I have not dynoed but I didn't feel a seat of your pants performance gain. I still don't have the whine I would like, but it improved a little. My LSA engine had screaming supercharger whine. haha! Thanks for the video!
Love your content and looking forward to part 2 with these lids. I completely agree with your opinion about seeing much better results with more mods.👍🔥
Been patiently and eagerly waiting for this one! The content Lt4 owners have been waiting for, thanks for the work Florida High Performance! Looking forward to this comparison on a ported blower 🙌
This is real deal content for lt4 owners. Thanks! Keep up the good work. What do you think is better jokerz or kong? Looking at ported blower 103tb and big gulp for my next round of mods. Any input would be awesome.
We use both. Comes down to client goals. In my experience having tested both, Jokerz has more low end hit over kong on the lt4 stuff….i actually have a video on here where I test the Kong x port on a head cam zl1 and discuss the differences in powerband from x port to race port
Great job testing with as much consistency as possible! Look forward to the test results on the heads/cam ported blower set-up, I agree and think thats where the results will standout👌
I have the DSX lid on my 2016 CTS-V. With the stealth package powder coat option for a more discreet look. I have not tried any other lids but couldn't be happier with the results going from stock to the DSX one. Whine alone was worth the money!
Since my 16 cts v came with the smaller gen 1 lid. I upgraded to a DSX lid, but also added LT, Intake and flex tune. DSX and stock gen 2 lids cost about the same, so that too influenced my purchase. I will say, I couldn’t justify the $1,000 lids…
I really love your videos man…..you’re very thorough I want to bring my 19 ZL1 to you….im in NC I would like to discuss some things I want to do with my car
Video is great not criticing one bit. But 100$ per hp or ftlb is steep!! Some were 200$ per ftlb whew. I think a good set of roller rocker arms would make a whole lot more bang for the buck
I showed up late. I LIKED the comparison and professional content. Looking now for the Bad Pumpkin you tube video. New subscriber for my 2018 ZL11LE...great stuff!!!
Thank you for yoir honesty I appreciated. One question do you think with a soler throttle body and say dsx or mpi lid would have more improvement. Everything else stock except for burger filter thank you I'd appreciated when you can to respond thank you sir
Just bought the LMP lid mainly because it's the biggest and best looking one imo. Gonna powder coat it gold and slap that baby on 😎. I only have 2" headers and catless X-pipe, cai and an E50 tune currently making 700whp. Hopefully after I port the blower and do pulleys, cam and full E85 i can make well over 800whp 🤞
We are currently modding Bad Punkn as we speak. Head/Cam/Race port on 93/MS109. We will finish tuning the car, and then will replicate this test again on that car and see if we get any changes!
Thank you for doing the test, you spent hard earned money that you didn't haft to spend. My 2018 ZL1 has a roto fab grey filter and borla Atak cat back, that's it, the car is about 18 months from pay off, once that happens it will definitely get a lid change in a magnuson 2650R, katech billet pump and a stage 3 cam in my 6 speed manual. working on getting my twin turbo chevelle on the road. 72 T56 magnum, LQ4 6.0 Stock rings low boost 12 psi or less, 2 borg warner S256SX 93 octane with M1 methanol, LS9 head gasket, ARP head bolts. So I have plenty work for now.
It would interesting to see this test again with a max effort on stock architecture type setup. See if there are any gains with the most maximized realistic test motor.
This was needed and well done. I had a prototype Gen 5 whipple with a flat vs normal top that they sell to the public. I was convinced it gave me .75-1 more psi of boost but I never got it on a dyno. Coming from C8 and want to get a ZL1. Is there any year you suggest staying away from? Good job. I enjoy your channel.
I had DSX lid 60mm upper 9.4 lower with a Kong Export porting on a stage 1 build, 416 stroker, Cam Rotofab big gulp and the rest and I’m telling you with that loud exhaust I still heard a good whine. Later I added methanol e85 Maggie 2650, 80mm upper same lower and I don’t hear a damn thing, but the power and efficiency that 2650 gives is second to none. Bottom line that stock 1.7 blower whether it’s ported or not will fall flat on its face after one good pull, don’t waste your money like I did buying lids and porting that little 1.7 and get a 2650, both Kong Performance and Jokers portem and if you wanna waste your money they make lids for those too.
Great video and information. I know that was a lot of work and the data and knowledge is definitely worth it. I hope you keep making videos like this for the people. Keep up the great work 👍 💪
One of, if not the BEST video ever on a subject. Amazing that you performed this test. I have been looking at a lid wondering if the results match their claims. Great video, thanks.
For the money you would spend on those lids with labor couldn’t you get the same maybe more for that amount by modifying the stock lid by having it polished inside ? I don’t know for sure how far you could take the polishing with the stock blower system ? I would even be curious if the idea was pushed to polishing and porting the factory heads and reinstalling ?
So no wideband on the car don’t know that the lmp goes very lean and needs to be adjusted in the tune same on the mpi. Also the stock tune limits the hp to exactly 9-9.5 psi it has a boost bypass that opens when boost increases. I can promise you the lmp and mpi both make way more power on a fbo max effort car. A totally stock car on my tune makes 12 psi so also his claim of not enough airflow is crap. This is why you do not use these people to tune your car period he doesn’t even know anything about them. I just had a 4000 lbs bolt on car run 9.15@151 mph it will be the fastest when we get a little weight out of it and get better then 600 da. Don’t bother waiting on his crap I can’t tell you just doing a proper setup the two lids do make more hp. That 9.15 car makes 830whp bolt on using e70 and the lmp lid.
I did have a wideband on the car- no major change in AFR on this set up between the lids- other combos may yield different results. The fact that you felt compelled enough to watch the video and then cope with your own insecurities as a man by posting negative things about my knowledge on this subject tells me I’m doing something right! -Erik
Erik welcomed all questions and comments. And this hater was too lazy to even ask if he had a wideband on the car. Yeah, he thinks his stuff is better no way in hell. Talk is cheap. He's just trying to feed his overrated ego....
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I think you just saved a bunch of LT4 owners about a grand on some pie in the sky claims! Thank you for a great video!
I had the DSX lid, sold it and upgraded to the LMP lid. As far as sound in the car. DSX has a better whine sound, even at low speeds. IMO
I love real results, not claims and assumptions by fan boys and companies.
I’m at 825 rwhp on my 17 with a ported lt4 blower, cam, upgraded fuel system, LT’s, pullies, TB, e60 so probably a good candidate for one of these lids so looking forward to ur next test.
For sure!
I just put the dsx lid on my 18 ctsv. It has way more whine. I like that it fits under the strut brace. I would recommend for any v owners.
Edit. I had a rotofab and a catch can on it for 20k miles. I took off the factory silencer plate from the lid when i did it. I could barely hear it. Now it's nice. Not too obnoxious like my friends trx.
Thank you for the feedback!
Brother, you are putting in the work! Wish I was in FL would def bring my Z to you thank you very much, keep up the amazing work and God bless mate
I appreciate that!
I bought an mpi lid for my zl1 strictly for cosmetic reasons for car shows. Noticed a bit more wine but no significant gains as expected. I currently have Roto-Fab non big gulp, 95 mm throttle body, and flex fuel and tune. Topped out at about 622rwhp. Great content! Looking forward to seeing what BAD Pumpkin does next!!!😎👊
MPI is a nice lid for sure
Here out of curiosity looking to find lid with better flow and lower intake air temps on a z06 wich seems to be an issue
As you have seen, there isn't one single lid that does the trick. Rather, I think they help along with other mods like larger HX, HX expansion tanks, etc...
Thanks for doing this. And we all knew it was going to be money wasted.
Awesome testing. Very informative.......but where's part 2? VERY curious to see if the lids made a difference on a modded blower.
🤔🤔🤔
Hello - this was a good vid. Have you made any progress with vid 2 after the modifications to the car you mentioned in this video?
Good test, I almost bought a lid for my stock V
Glad this helped...
Kind of an expensive mod for such little gain. It might help more on a stock car.
I have the DSX lid on my 2016 Z06. I have not dynoed but I didn't feel a seat of your pants performance gain. I still don't have the whine I would like, but it improved a little. My LSA engine had screaming supercharger whine. haha! Thanks for the video!
Thanks for sharing
Love your content and looking forward to part 2 with these lids. I completely agree with your opinion about seeing much better results with more mods.👍🔥
Thanks so much!
If you ever dynoed a rotofab vs the rotofab biggulp?
No but I can...
I would love to see the difference that you get. If it's worth upgrading or not.
I think it’s worth mentioning the DSX lid power gain listed on the site is compared against the 15-16 lid and NOT against the tall 17+ lid.
Great info thank you for adding this point
Been patiently and eagerly waiting for this one! The content Lt4 owners have been waiting for, thanks for the work Florida High Performance! Looking forward to this comparison on a ported blower 🙌
Taller isn’t better? Dsx easy choice
I’m assuming very similar results on a 2017 c7 z06
Awesome info & video, I agree with your opinion for why not too much different. Waiting for your next experiment on your ZL1.
👍🏻
Coming soon!
Awsome video funny the cheaper lid did the best i love it lol!!
Elite content! Can’t wait for the next test! May have to switch my LMP lid to save 10lbs
This is youtube! Dude best video on automotive youtube in a while. Keep this up and you're channel will blow up. Thank you
Wow, thanks!
This is real deal content for lt4 owners. Thanks! Keep up the good work. What do you think is better jokerz or kong? Looking at ported blower 103tb and big gulp for my next round of mods. Any input would be awesome.
We use both. Comes down to client goals. In my experience having tested both, Jokerz has more low end hit over kong on the lt4 stuff….i actually have a video on here where I test the Kong x port on a head cam zl1 and discuss the differences in powerband from x port to race port
Great job testing with as much consistency as possible! Look forward to the test results on the heads/cam ported blower set-up, I agree and think thats where the results will standout👌
Thank you!
I have the DSX lid on my 2016 CTS-V. With the stealth package powder coat option for a more discreet look. I have not tried any other lids but couldn't be happier with the results going from stock to the DSX one. Whine alone was worth the money!
There you go!
Waiting for the high horsepower ZL1 test. Subscribed.
Coming….
Im very interested to see the Orange ZL1 im tuned in 💪🏽
Coming soon...
I can't afford one of these, but I sure like them. Thank you for sharing your research. Maybe someday I'll get one. Don't hold your boost though.
Follow up vid?
IN the works....
Thanks. Saved me 800bucks.
Just a quick question…. Why jokerz over Kong? Just want a better understanding between the two, thanks
Jokerz will make more low end boost and torque over the kong lt4 port - both will make more peak boost and hp…I run both depending on customer needs
Maybe I missed it, but did you say which lid you found increased blower whine the most?
Can you feel the difference in blind testing on the road with the DSX vs the others?
No
Amazing content, so much thought-provoking information.
Thank you so much
put a short height factory lid on and test !
Won’t clear the bricks my guy
Did that stock lid still have that sound dampener piece in it? Maybe a give away of the lids you don’t keep on the car after the next video?
Lid did not have the damper in it- client removed it prior to it coming to our shop….we might do a giveaway let’s see what happens!
I agree with everything you said. More changes would be noticed on a max effort type build. Might gain 15-25 on a car that makes 800+whp
Just goes to show you how feel the oem factory lid performs gm knows what they’re doing when they put out a product
Usually they do- not always. Remember- the original Lt4 lids on the V and the Z06 were trash
Since my 16 cts v came with the smaller gen 1 lid. I upgraded to a DSX lid, but also added LT, Intake and flex tune. DSX and stock gen 2 lids cost about the same, so that too influenced my purchase. I will say, I couldn’t justify the $1,000 lids…
Can’t go wrong with the DSX!
So less than 1% horsepower gain absolutely not worth it
I really love your videos man…..you’re very thorough I want to bring my 19 ZL1 to you….im in NC I would like to discuss some things I want to do with my car
Email me- I have a lot of vehicles come to me from out of state
Sales@flhighperformance.com
-Erik
This is your best video so far imo…I really didn’t expect those results!!!
A lot more of this coming
Nice video, can you make a pull on the ported blower before the heads cam swap to see if there’s much difference
I actually do that in episode 2 of my ZL1 (bad punkn) series which you can go watch on this channel
Video is great not criticing one bit. But 100$ per hp or ftlb is steep!! Some were 200$ per ftlb whew. I think a good set of roller rocker arms would make a whole lot more bang for the buck
Def not the best bang for buck....
I showed up late. I LIKED the comparison and professional content. Looking now for the Bad Pumpkin you tube video. New subscriber for my 2018 ZL11LE...great stuff!!!
Thank you so much...BAD PUNKN coming soon!!!!
have you guys ever thought of porting the stock Lid?
Nothing much to remove material wise- it’s more of how the air moves up, across, and down the lid into the ports I’d say….
I might have missed it but did the iats improve with an aftermarket lid?
Not really- 100-103* avg through the pull….next test would have to be driving out on the road
Thank you for yoir honesty I appreciated. One question do you think with a soler throttle body and say dsx or mpi lid would have more improvement. Everything else stock except for burger filter thank you I'd appreciated when you can to respond thank you sir
Probably not
Thank you for response
I have a 2023 ZL1 and cant find the dsx lid for my year on there website. Is it not compatible?
dsxtuning.com/products/billet-lt4-supercharger-cover?variant=33099951145040
I own a 17 ctsv and was thinking of doing a lmp lid but Dsx will do
Whatever you choose will be better than the stock V Lid!
Just bought the LMP lid mainly because it's the biggest and best looking one imo. Gonna powder coat it gold and slap that baby on 😎. I only have 2" headers and catless X-pipe, cai and an E50 tune currently making 700whp. Hopefully after I port the blower and do pulleys, cam and full E85 i can make well over 800whp 🤞
Sounds fun! Good luck with the build.
Do you know when you're going to have the next video on the modified with the lids as im holding off purchasing until i see the results! Thanks.
We are currently modding Bad Punkn as we speak. Head/Cam/Race port on 93/MS109. We will finish tuning the car, and then will replicate this test again on that car and see if we get any changes!
Where's bad pumpkin!
Coming!!
which lid had the loudest whine?
MPI seems to make the most sound out on the road
Thank you for doing the test, you spent hard earned money that you didn't haft to spend.
My 2018 ZL1 has a roto fab grey filter and borla Atak cat back, that's it, the car is about 18 months from pay off, once that happens it will definitely get a lid change in a magnuson 2650R, katech billet pump and a stage 3 cam in my 6 speed manual.
working on getting my twin turbo chevelle on the road.
72 T56 magnum, LQ4 6.0 Stock rings low boost 12 psi or less, 2 borg warner S256SX 93 octane with M1 methanol, LS9 head gasket, ARP head bolts.
So I have plenty work for now.
Best of luck with the build!
MORE OF THESE! Get ahead in the LT world! More research for the LS1 / LSX aire to the throne
A lot coming...
It would interesting to see this test again with a max effort on stock architecture type setup. See if there are any gains with the most maximized realistic test motor.
Agreed...will conduct this test on my max effort ZL1 soon...
Has he or any shop done such tests for a max effort LT4 2650 build?
Coming soon….all part of my build series on bad punkn zl1
This was needed and well done. I had a prototype Gen 5 whipple with a flat vs normal top that they sell to the public. I was convinced it gave me .75-1 more psi of boost but I never got it on a dyno. Coming from C8 and want to get a ZL1. Is there any year you suggest staying away from? Good job. I enjoy your channel.
Stick with 19+ ZL1
@@floridahighperformance thanks. Great channel.
As always you give great content. Appreciate the work you put it giving us common folks great info as we look into which mods will benefit us the most
Glad to help
Way to go DSX!! Stl
Like I say considering all things at the end of the day it’s dark
Facts
Great job! Great content! DSX .....great product
It sure is!
Nice 👍🏾
Thanks 💯
I had DSX lid 60mm upper 9.4 lower with a Kong Export porting on a stage 1 build, 416 stroker, Cam Rotofab big gulp and the rest and I’m telling you with that loud exhaust I still heard a good whine. Later I added methanol e85 Maggie 2650, 80mm upper same lower and I don’t hear a damn thing, but the power and efficiency that 2650 gives is second to none. Bottom line that stock 1.7 blower whether it’s ported or not will fall flat on its face after one good pull, don’t waste your money like I did buying lids and porting that little 1.7 and get a 2650, both Kong Performance and Jokers portem and if you wanna waste your money they make lids for those too.
Appreciate videos like this. Thank you
Glad you like them!
Wow I've been trying to do this test for like a year, haven't had the time, thank you for your time, these tests take quite a bit of time to do.
Glad it was helpful!
I own a 2019 zl1 and did some modifications ... I completely agree with your opinion b4 you said it
Thanks for showing people real hp gains
Great video, I learned a lot on this and I’m looking forward to your next video!
Thank you
Great video and information. I know that was a lot of work and the data and knowledge is definitely worth it. I hope you keep making videos like this for the people. Keep up the great work 👍 💪
Will forsure be on a standby for the next video
Thanks!
Great video thanks 💪🏿💪🏿
No problem 👍
Great video but We need part 2 😂
Coming soon!
Great video! Definitely good to know.
Glad it was helpful!
Great video. 👍💪💪💪
Appreciate it!
Great video Eric! 👏👏
Thanks!
Very good video
Thanks
Erik, great video!!
Thank you
Great video
Thanks!
One of, if not the BEST video ever on a subject. Amazing that you performed this test. I have been looking at a lid wondering if the results match their claims. Great video, thanks.
Thank you!
Good content!
Glad you think so!
Awesome video!
Thanks!
For the money you would spend on those lids with labor couldn’t you get the same maybe more for that amount by modifying the stock lid by having it polished inside ? I don’t know for sure how far you could take the polishing with the stock blower system ? I would even be curious if the idea was pushed to polishing and porting the factory heads and reinstalling ?
I think people like the look of something that isn't stock...that is main reason you buy a lid...the gains are so subjective...to each their own.
You'll get it if you keep at it. Gain some confidence, you got this! Really appreciate the info you provided here.
TY
I agree I think tho on a FBO 15+ psi bolt on car the gains on the lids will be shown more than at the stock boost levels
Great video, keep them videos coming. Can't wait to bring you my C7 Z06
I just purchased the dsx im doing it more for the louder whine
Enjoy!
Sponsored by DSX
Not even remotely sponsored by DSX - I paid for these out of pocket and spent $1000 producing this video- not including my own time and equipment use
@@floridahighperformance it made a big difference on my max effort stock blower zl1 compared to the dsx so looking forward to your next video.
@@mc-lc4sq which one you running?
So no wideband on the car don’t know that the lmp goes very lean and needs to be adjusted in the tune same on the mpi. Also the stock tune limits the hp to exactly 9-9.5 psi it has a boost bypass that opens when boost increases. I can promise you the lmp and mpi both make way more power on a fbo max effort car. A totally stock car on my tune makes 12 psi so also his claim of not enough airflow is crap. This is why you do not use these people to tune your car period he doesn’t even know anything about them. I just had a 4000 lbs bolt on car run 9.15@151 mph it will be the fastest when we get a little weight out of it and get better then 600 da. Don’t bother waiting on his crap I can’t tell you just doing a proper setup the two lids do make more hp. That 9.15 car makes 830whp bolt on using e70 and the lmp lid.
I did have a wideband on the car- no major change in AFR on this set up between the lids- other combos may yield different results. The fact that you felt compelled enough to watch the video and then cope with your own insecurities as a man by posting negative things about my knowledge on this subject tells me I’m doing something right! -Erik
Extra crispy 💀
@@JarredNoahOnly people doing worse than you will ridicule your work and efforts in life- not those doing better than you. Remember that.
Erik welcomed all questions and comments. And this hater was too lazy to even ask if he had a wideband on the car. Yeah, he thinks his stuff is better no way in hell. Talk is cheap. He's just trying to feed his overrated ego....
@@RRCoolJ-bq3piall questions and comments are certainly welcome- good or bad- just might not like my answer
This video should be 5min long max
Sorry TikTok has fried your attention span…this was spot on what normal people need to see
This hater needs to get a new passion. It's definitely not motorsports.
Whats needed to run straight e85 on a zl1?... flex fuel kit and ? Anything else ? Injectors?
What mods
Upper pulley, headers, cai exhaust.@@floridahighperformance
@@nemesis_zl1180 low side aux kit, flex fuel sensor, injectors….that should get you there but even then might tax the high side on full E
Wish it included the Kong lid with these tests…..🤔🫣🧐
Kong Lt4 lid? News to me if one exists...