@@Omar-j2t it’s been 2years since I watched the video but before I re-watch it…basically from what I can remember there were 2 guys with the same name, ruling the kingdom off and on around the same time who died at two different times. I can see why ppl might get confused by that. 🤗
@@Omar-j2t now that I re-watched some of it basically the same guy ruled at different times … first as a proxy king while the real king was at war (at 22years of age) and later as king (though illegitimately…not of the line of David) at age 42…in the end God restored the line of David to the throne so Messiah could and would come through his line as foretold. But really you should watch the whole thing…he explains it all in detail.👍
@@redwolf7227 I did, but i did not understand fully. Did he rule for ONE year at both times in his life? meaning he ruled as a proxy for just ONE year and as an actual king for just ONE year? i don't remember (chicktracts) clarifying this, i could be mistaken.
@@Omar-j2t the first time was just long enough to keep the seat warm while the kings were off to battle…the second time was not long…I did not catch how long…I do get that given the genealogy in Matthew, 4 generations of the kings in Judah were not of the line of David …so God did a round-about action and through cousins who were of the line of David he restored the line to the throne after all of the evil that the decedents of ahab (Omari’s) line had done in Judah.
not sure if you watched the full video but after 8:58 he says its his "theory" and that this is no warranted by the bible. What happens when spend your whole life searching out an answer to the matter, and never get one?
@@Omar-j2t Deuteronomy 29:29 The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.
@@biblereadingoutreach2284 We're not talking about "secret things," we're talking about an age inconsistency. To my knowledge, an age of a person is not a theological belief, it's just information. 1 Corinthians 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. God sure is confusing me. We're not even talking about the trinity, we're literally talking about the most miNUTE detail that has no theological impact. On the other hand, this does serious red flags about the accuracy, and reliability of the bible. You and I are able to make those mistakes, but God is above us in all aspects, meaning it is not in his nature to make those mistakes.
@@Omar-j2t Psalm 131 A Song of degrees of David. 1 LORD, my heart is not haughty, nor mine eyes lofty: neither do I exercise myself in great matters, or in things too high for me. 2 Surely I have behaved and quieted myself, as a child that is weaned of his mother: my soul is even as a weaned child. 3 Let Israel hope in the LORD from henceforth and for ever.
Thank you so much Brother David, for your prayerful efforts to rightly divide this challenging passage. I have not seen you reply very often to this channel but I would sincerely appreciate it if you would reply to me. I follow your argument completely, find it convincing, but there are a few questions from the text that I still have: 1) Who is Jehoahaz in 2 Chronicles 21:17? It seems he is identical with Ahaziah because of the description in 2 Chronicles 22:1. In both places he is called the son of the king or the son of Jehoram. Your argument states that Ahaziah was not of David’s bloodline, but Jehoram was of David’s bloodline. So how could Ahaziah not be of David’s bloodline also? Thanks so much.
@David Daniels Thank you so much for explaining this. I had just finished Kings and Chronicals and you explained it where I could understand it. God bless you and please keep up the good work.
There is so much in what you just revealed, it will take a while to completely unpack it. Thank you! You're such a blessing to the body of Christ. You've restored much faith in the word of God by unraveling the changes made by men, which then further exhalts the KJB! 💕
@earlysda First you should name what that mistake(s) is/are? Next, according to your philosophy, all Bibles have mistakes because no Bible is perfect! So what are you talking about now? If that's not your philosophy, which Bible Version is Perfect? Can't even name them all because there are hundreds and they all say different things so go ahead and entertain me! Thanks in advance.
@@Jae_hX JTHill, 2Timothy 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: . Proverbs 26:12 You have seen a man wise in his own opinion - there is more hope for a fool than for him. . Please repent, and ready your Holy Bible as if your soul depends on it, because it does!
Isn’t the end result wonderful when someone challenges the inerrancy of the KJV Bible, causing us to dig deeper, learn more, and strengthen our faith that the LORD has provided his perfect word, translated accurately in English for us? Mr. Daniels, this truly was a difficult subject, but well worth your diligent study in scripture alone, and a very likely answer to the puzzle concerning Ahaziah’s age, co-regency, and also why kings’ names are missing in the Matthew 1 genealogy of Jesus Christ. I am forever fascinated by the mysteries in the Bible, and the excitement when they are solved. This cannot be done with any of the modern versions which lead to dead-ends as the words and thoughts are changed. The KJV is always reliable in understanding knowledge. Jesus answered his disciples concerning why he spoke to the people in parables, and “He answered them and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.” (Matt 13:11 KJV) Addressing the coup of Athaliah of the wicked house of Omri (Saul, et al), it was an attempt to take over the southern kingdom of Judah, and make void the everlasting covenant (2 Sam 23:5) and promise of God to David “..thine house and thy kingdom shall be established for ever before thee: thy throne shall be established for ever.” (2 Sam 7:16) Athaliah, under the influence of Satan, destroyed the royal seed (2 Kg 11:1) taking the throne for herself until she was slain. From what tribe was Omri? The Bible does not directly specify, however, before becoming king in Israel, he was a captain of the host, and “Omri went up from Gibbethon, and all Israel with him, …” (1 Kg 16:17) Gibbethon was a portion of the tribe of Dan. (Josh 19:44). Why is the tribe of Dan excluded in Revelation 7? Samson, of the tribe of Dan, was indeed a saint (Hebrews 11:32), but did the evil of the house of Omri cause the tribe’s name to be written out? Here’s a curve ball, now, was Judas Iscariot also of Dan? Were not both of these, Athaliah and Judas, used of Satan to ultimately try to destroy Jesus’ future position as King from the lineage of King David, and, failing that, to murder him when he came in the flesh? The possibility of Judas being of the tribe of Dan is based upon “For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and, His bishoprick let another take.” (Acts 2:20) Psalm 109:8 was quoted. Reading the entire Psalm 109, but in particular, if these wicked ones were of the tribe of Dan, which is written out in Revelation 7, the text of Psalm 109:13-15 is stunning: “Let his posterity be cut off: and in the generation following let their name be blotted out. Let the iniquity of his fathers be remembered with the LORD; and let not the sin of his mother be blotted out. Let them be before the LORD continually, that he may cut off the memory of them from the earth.” Thanks for the chance to comment.
@Ahmed Khaled103 I'm going to take a wild guess and say that you are a follower of Mohammed? You know, the one who married a 6 year old girl and had sex with her when she was only 9?
Interesting that I've been working on creating a timeline of biblical dates and that this came up simultaneously with my getting to the same point in my timeline.
Praise the Lord! Thank bro David for Faithfully walking through the Bible and looking for God’s leading to reconcile to clear out misunderstandings in this Biblical text challenges. Same with you here… we stand with the Word of God. You made our studies and research of the text easier through the help of the Holy Spirit and His revelation. God bless!! I hope you can share all the verses so we can further include or add more verses connected to this topic. Shalom!!
Thanks so much for taking the time to figure this out and putting it into a digestible order. I have been studying this for two days straight (over 12 hours) plus looking at it a few times in the past. I threw up my hands in hopelessness a few times after I filled up 3 white boards trying to draw out different possibilities. I used Floyd Nolan Jones who is usually pretty good, but he goes to the Hebrew and alters the English text. I used the commentaries and found what I expected there: “should’ve been 22 in both places” and I went to “errors in the King James Bible” which took me the farthest, but I couldn’t see that ahaziah was not of the seed of david. I feel bad now because that was the first statement in Matthew that I overlooked. It’s obvious now why those men were left out. Thanks again brother. From your first few words in the video I knew you had the answer.
@@gurjeetdeol6291According to him Ahaziah served as proxy king when he was 22 i.e he was not officially king. At 42 he was officially proclaimed king.
As always we can count on you (and I'm sure miss Deborah helped) to set the record straight!! A nice way to spend part of my day after Christmas (2022) ;-) Lord bless you my friend ;-)
When you use the word “maybe” that means you’re accepting assumptions to prove there is no contradiction. The fact is there are contradictions everywhere, but christians refuse to admit it. To prove there are no contradictions, you have no option but to make up stories that are not in the Bible.
The end was the best what an amazing revelation i've to go through this couple of times to fully understand the message behind the teaching may the lord bless you exceedingly and abundantly more and more Ammen
It was mistaken. Here is what the Holy Bible states: 2Kings 8:26 Two and twenty years old [was] Ahaziah when he began to reign; and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. And his mother's name [was] Athaliah, the daughter of Omri king of Israel. . 2Chronicles 22:2 Forty and two years old [was] Ahaziah when he began to reign, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. His mother's name also [was] Athaliah the daughter of Omri. . Notice the "REIGNED ONE YEAR" part that he missed covering in this video.
I heard a great debate. That he reigned 2 times. Once because his father was sick. I can't comfirm this. I haven't prayed or fasted on this. I have tackled many many of hard subjects and by the power of the Holy Ghost. I have been given all answers. This is a new one to me. Thanks for you video and great work. God bless.
I still don’t get it. It does not make sense. He was 22 as proxy king and 42 he became official king. Still we have a problem. It says he reigned for one year in 22 and he reigned one year when he was 42. Am I the only one who don’t get it ?
What verse did you learn that name from , or , are you somehow a Hebrew who speaks in English when they talk ? God has revealed himself in the manifestation of Jesus Christ , revealing his name ..." I have come in my father's name " " I have manifested thy name " ...God manifest in flesh 1timothy 3:16
Dear Brother David Daniels; In my humble opinion I believe the Bible answers this quandary in James 3:16 "For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work." With all the envying and strife the scribes of the day must have gotten confused on how old king Ahaziah was when he began to reign. Because both passages of scripture are so simular except for the kings age it must have been the scribes of those evil days who were so confused. Thanks for all of your schollerly work. Brother Joseph, I'm not Jesus Father but I know him.
Hello my brother in Christ , thank you so much for this video- I really enjoyed it! I just wanted to say I think you meant Athaliah is the “Daughter “ of Ahab, not his sister because King Omri was her grandfather
Thats talking about Absalom's age. In that verse. Cause obviously when you match the time frames in Chapter 14 with that verse in 15:7 they don't match...right? So..its talking about Absalom's AGE! After 40 years, Absalom had to be at least in his forties(AT LEAST) cause as it is written, if you balance the time frames they dont line up. It IS a reference unto Absalom's age friend.😀
After 40 years from what? That is the question you need to ask. It doesn't tell you. The burden of proof is on the person accusing it of being a contradiction or problem.
It's 40 years after David killed Goliath. Notice that the context is absolutely when he steals the hearts the children of Israel. So 40 years after David won the hearts the children of Israel his son does
2 Chronicles 24:7 For the sons of💃 Athaliah,🧛♀️ that wicked woman💃, had broken up the house of God; and also all the dedicated things of the house of the LORD did they bestow upon Baalim.
wow! Nice I always wondered and questioned myself about the 14 Generations cuz i only counted up till like 9 or 10 generations... in Matthew Chapter 1... up till the exile into Babylon...thanx, David! Love your (God's) show!
I believe that there was a coregency between Jehoram and his son Ahaziah Examples of coregency 1Kings 1: 47 2Kings 15: 5 2Kings 8: 16-17,25-26 2Chronicles 21: 16-20 2Chronicles 22: 1-2 In the fifth year of King Joram of Israel, Jehotam reigned at the age of 32, 8 years This means that when King Jehoram died, the period of Joram's rule over Israel was 13 years King Ahaziah reigned over Judah when Joram ruled Israel for 12 years This means that Ahaziah ruled jointly with his father Jehoram one year before his father died of illness He was 22 years old at that time, and he ruled the first time The band of men that came with the Arabians had slain all the elders this means that a long time passed, until all the elders died, and a new generation appeared This generation elected Ahaziah king for the second time at the age of 42
@@rattlesss Ahaziah ruled twice, not once. The second time, his age was older than the entire lifespan of his father, who had been dead for decades due to his illness.
@@tariqhaddad7298 so 2 Chronicles 21:20 ( Thirty and two years old was he when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem eight years, and departed without being desired. Howbeit they buried him in the city of David, but not in the sepulchres of the kings) 2 Chronicle 22:1-2 (And the inhabitants of Jerusalem made Ahaziah his youngest son king in his stead: for the band of men that came with the Arabians to the camp had slain all the eldest. So Ahaziah the son of Jehoram king of Judah reigned. 2 Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. His mother's name also was Athaliah the daughter of Omri.) So Jehoram was 40 when he died in 2 Chronicles 21, and the next time Azaiah rose into power in age of 42. I don't understand this part. Like why is Azaiah older than his father?
But doesn't 2 Chron 22:1 say that Ahaziah's father was Jehoram? I personally think that the 42 is by a different calendar; he was the last King reigning in the line of Omri (house of Ahab). He began reigning 42 years after Omri began to reign. He was 22 by age, 42 as the last reigning member of the house of Ahab/Omri. that's the only way I can get it to work
I've heard of that solution too. The only problem I have with it is that it solves the apparent error in the text by claiming the other part of the text is in error. So, when it says Ahaziah was 42 years old when he began to reign, Bible correctors usually say the number "42" is an error and it should instead be 22; this apparent solution says that the number 42 is not an error, it is correct but that the name "Ahaziah" is in error as it should instead be "the house of Omri" In my eyes this solution is no better than other bible-corrector's solutions. Just say something in the text is wrong.
Brother Daniel, where can I get a small bible such as the one you held in your hand. I want the smallest complete bible there is. Do you know where to get one? God bless you beloved brother.
So, how is Genesis 49:10 explained? It says "The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be." If "all the seed royal" of Judah was killed, it would seem that for a time the scepter indeed departed from Judah for some years. This is a complicated subject. I haven't resolved it in my mind but am thinking there may have been three different Ahaziahs; one for Israel and two for Judah.
There has not been a king of Judah for thousands of years now. The sceptre represents a right to rule. It does not mean that a king should always be on the throne. A king was not on a throne until hundreds of years after Genesis 49:10 was written. Jer. 33:14-17. The context of this passage is the millennial Kingdom of Jesus Christ..
Listened to this again. Hm... Is it just me or---is the short answer just as perplexing as the Long answer...what does that say about my poor brain Mr. Daniels? But (shaking my wittle fist of power).....I WILL LISTEN AGAIN!!! and um....ahem.....a...a...again.
Greetings Rajasekar; In the same way many in the Old Testament thought... see Genesis 13:8... "And Abram said unto Lot {Uncle to Nephew}, Let there be no strife, I pray thee, between me and thee, and between my herdmen and thy herdmen; for we be BRETHREN." Praying this is helpful... - bro Paul -
2 Kings 8:26 Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign; and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. And his mother’s name was Athaliah, the daughter of Omri king of Israel.
2 Kings 11:14 And when she looked, behold, the king stood by a pillar, as the manner was, and the princes and the trumpeters by the king, and all the people of the land rejoiced, and blew with trumpets: and Athaliah rent her clothes, and cried, Treason, Treason.
Hi Brother David, where did you get that ESV Catholic Edition (as shown at very near end of this clip)? I searched and found only TWO sources - Joyofgifting and ATC Books in India. The ISBN is 9789386516329. But it's impossible to order due to their payment system unless I live in India! I collect Alexandrian bibles for research purposes like you do yet I only read KJV. And btw your video was very interesting about Ahaziah!
@@isaacdrake yeh, I get that, but none of the “errors” even come close to imputing any tenants of the faith. Most are merely transcription errors that are easily identified through textual criticism. I believe the original texts were perfect, but to say some insignificant error could never make it into someone’s version of the Bible seems a little disingenuous, and maybe bordering on the delusion of human perfectionism.
2 Kings 11:2 But Jehosheba, the daughter of king Joram, sister of Ahaziah, took Joash the son of Ahaziah, and stole him from among the king’s sons which were slain; and they hid him, even him and his nurse, in the bedchamber from Athaliah, so that he was not slain.
Mr. Daniels, great research and thanks for showing us how to defend the Word with the KJB. I realize you are a busy man but I have an important request though. Can you please do a review of the so- called 'Children's Bible's' that are hitting the market? I saw one the other day that for me was a little on the 'Harry Potterish' side and it was an NIV called "Incredible Creatures and Creations. It's hard to find good a good children's Bible and just wanted your thoughts and recommendations for us parents with wittle one's.
Might I ask the purpose in seeking a Children's Bible? My 6 and 7 year Olds have been reading their way through the KJV for awhile now. They don't understand it all, but as this video proves, neither do most people. God reveals to us what we can take. The key is just to keep reading. I think trying to flash the Bible up for children is dangerous. They need to learn to love the Good Old Bood from a young age.
Also- and this is slightly off topic, but I would encourage people to read 1 Samuel 13:1 and compare it with multiple translations. I think the KJV accurately preserves the meaning. Most scholars will say Saul ruled for 40 years, but I don’t think this is true. Compare this with the Ark of the Covenant’s chronology being moved to Kirjath-Jearim and later to Jerusalem by David (1 Sam 7:2; 2 Sam 6:3-12). Could Saul have been 40 years old when he became king (as opposed to ruling for 40 years)? I’m not an expert in the Greek (Acts 13:21) but I think a case can be made that the 40 years is in reference to his age. If I’m right, then I think the KJV’s translation is the most superior available. As for your theory about Ahaziah and his mother, I can’t remember exactly, but I think it sounds very similar to that which was brought up by Floyd Jones.
What is interesting to me is the possibility that Jehorams son Jehoahaz very well could have been taken to Israel and made Jehu's heir. If this is the case, then during at least a portion of the ~54 years when the seed of David was not ruling In Judah, his heir was ruling over Israel instead.
This conundrum is one of many apparent contradictions atheists and agnostics, particularly ex christian, chuck out. The dating and records of the ancient near east is a difficult one for the reasons David outlines.
Acts 17:11 These were more noble👍 than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched👀 the scriptures daily📖, whether those things were so.✅
2Kings 8, "begin to reign" & "began to reign" & "and he reigned" all three of these statments come from the single Hebrew word "Malak". Now Malak, depending on the context of the verse could either mean H4427 (Mickelson's Enhanced Strong's Dictionaries of the Greek and Hebrew Testaments) H4427 מָלַךְ malak (maw-lak') v. 1. to reign. 2. (inceptively) to ascend the throne. 3. (causatively) to induct into royalty. 4. (hence, by implication) to take counsel. Thus at age 22 Ahaziah began to "take counsel" and NOT when he began to reign. There is no "copiest error" as many suggest. Peace:)
I’ve been studying the Divided Kingdom Chronology in depth for several years now. Know that in this area of study, there are a lot of very poorly researched theories floating out there. Three cheers for the answer to this discrepancy that says Ahaziah was both 22 and 42 years old when he started ruling. It sounds crazy, but sometimes details may appear to be contradictory, but in reality, they’re both describing the same thing accurately from different perspectives. This is consistent all throughout the books of Kings and Chronicles which provide dates reckoned from different starting points. David- if you want a challenge, try to explain why King Ahaz was about 11 years old when Hezekiah was born (I would argue when the chronology is properly calibrated, alleged problems like these disappear)! And if you want to laugh, read Christine Tetley’s “The Reconstructed Chronology of the Divided Kingdom”. Then cry when you realize she was awarded a doctoral degree for that work!
If you want to give yourself nightmares, google youngest woman to give birth. It is possible for young people to conceive. I'm not familiar with the passage you are referring to, but what you proposed is not an impossibility. In fact there are very recent examples. "Con tan solo 11 años, niño mexicano es el padre más joven del mundo" [With only 11 years, Mexican child is the world's youngest father]. Telemundo (in Spanish). November 12, 2015.
i have a question, wasn't Jehoram died in age of 40? because of sickness. But Azaiah ruled in 42 which is 2 years older from his father, Jehoram. Can you help explaining it to me?
@@rattlesssit was explained on the video, that Jehoram was 19 when he travelled with his dad, Jehosaphath, and his foster son, Ahaziah, son of Athaliah, daughter of Ahab, was 22 and thus become the proxy of Judah kingdom. Athaliah was whoring with unknown/ unname male before she married jehoram (political marriage) when she was 16, And that explains why ahaziah was 2 years older than jehoram, his foster dad.
Wow, it takes a lot of faith to be able to question Gods word. But as you said, God pushes us to go on exploring, and with time he reveals treasures (i've had some great findings too). I'm now stuck on the differences in the 2 genealogies (Matt1 and Luke 3) I can't believe God made such a mistake, there must be something i'm missing here. This is incredible - I'm getting the answer while i'm writing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Luke is not a genealogy ! We're misunderstanding the word "Son" I need to do some research...
I'm back. Busy evening... In Luke the word "son" is not there, i mean it's not in the greek ! It's just a list of nouns (sorry for the KJV -- KJV is the best anyway ;-)) As I said, it's not even a genealogy, (contrary to Matt 1:1) luke doesn't define itself as one. It's a sort of genealogy but not a genealogy of the flesh, it's a genealogy of the spirit. It makes completely sens as it follows Jesus baptism, just 2 verses earlier ! This explains why King Salomon is not in the list. And also a difference with the genealogies in Genesis. Arpakshad begot Shélah in the book of Genesis but in Luke the spirit went to Kaïnam first. I guess Shélah turned to God later on, or maybe he just was too young. Joseph (Mary's hudband) didnt' get the spirit from his natural father but from another spiritual father. And i guess he (Joseph) must have died at the start of Jesus's ministery as no there in no mention of him elsewhere in the NT. I'm not going to make English videos about this, I'm frensh. Feel free to use - it's the word of God, not me. God bless you brother - keep on the exploring. Many more things to find !
@@povoq83 Joseph's genealogy is in Matthew, & Mary's genealogy is in Luke... Praying this is helpful. Jesus' humanity came through Mary's line. - bro Paul -
@@paulb.searles7481 Ive heard that argument before. It has no fondation. Luke is not a genealogy and it mentions Joseph not Mary. Even if it was Marys genealogy it would still contradict the genealogies of the OT.
1. Margaret Hilda Thatcher was elected Prime Minister of the UK in 1979, she was aged (?) when she was elected. 2. Margaret Hilda Thatcher was elected Prime Minister of the UK in 1983, she was aged (?) when she was elected. 3. Margaret Hilda Thatcher was elected Prime Minister of the UK in 1987, she was aged (?) when she was elected. All of these statements are true. If you Isolate these statements and try to make them one event there would be an apparent contradiction. We often assume politics is a neat transition when we look back at history and the further we are removed from it. The bible illustrated political confusion at the time Solomon was anointed the King.
Exodus 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
I thought of Dr.James White as been a brilliant Bible Scholar and theologian but David W.Daniels make circles around Dr.James White and make him look like an amateur!.In a bible (KJV vs NIV) debate between Dr.James White and David W.Daniels I could bet my house on favor of David W.Daniels, hands down he is far superior in bible knowledge and history!.
Greetings Dolum Doli; The correct term is paradox: not contradiction. A contradiction would be "King so-and-so was 22 years old when he began to reign" and "King so-and-so was NOT 22 years old when he began to reign"... Trusting this is helpful, In Christ Jesus, - bro Paul -
Here's something you might find very interesting and useful. Considering the critics of the KJV often rely on the Septuagint rather than the Masoretic text, and they love putting forth the idea that Jesus preferred the Septuagint which they believe is more accurate.. Well in 2 Chronicles 22:2, the Septuagint doesn't say that Ahaziah was 22 OR 42.. it says neither!!! The Septuagint says he was 20 years old. 😆 Thought you might get a kick out of that. The KJB claims victory in accuracy yet again. (Once I realized Jehoram fell sick with a horrible painful disease for two years before dying, the dots started connecting.)
42? Ahaziah died at 22. There are two Ahaziahs. Their deaths are recorded different. The 22 year old was wounded in his chariot and died in Megiddo from Jehu's men. The 42 year old was captured and brought to Jehu and killed infront of him. These are not the same men.
Both passages are referring to the same Ahaziah even though there is another Ahaziah. 2 Kings 8:25, 26 and 2 Chronicles 22:1, 2 both say "...Ahaziah the son of Jehoram king of Judah..."
@@isaacdrake No they aren't. The 22 year old died in Megiddo the 42 year old died in Samaria these are not the same men. One was buried in the City of David the other was not. Athaliah has more than one son. One ruled in the 11th year one in the 12th year. Both are counted as his son. Is Jesus the biological son of David? No. Joseph is called Heli son how and he married his daughter?? Son in the bible is used very different.
I came back to this video to look for this. I’m beginning to think you may be right about two Ahaziahs who died differently, ruled a year apart, and had their brethren killed at different times (by Jehu and Arabians). What I cannot figure out is how Joash is called the son of Ahaziah, Jehoram, and Jehoshaphat (2 kings 12:19), but he is missing in Matthew 1. Why would Mat. exclude 3 generations is he was “begat” by jehoram and Jehoshaphat? I know he can be a step son and step grandson. Also, why would athaliah want to kill “all the seed royal” including Joash if he isn’t in the line of Judah?
Lots of words expended to try and mislead people. That is not good. . Here is what the Holy Bible states: 2Kings 8:26 Two and twenty years old [was] Ahaziah when he began to reign; and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. And his mother's name [was] Athaliah, the daughter of Omri king of Israel. . 2Chronicles 22:2 Forty and two years old [was] Ahaziah when he began to reign, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. His mother's name also [was] Athaliah the daughter of Omri. . Notice the "REIGNED ONE YEAR" part that you missed covering in this video. , Let's believe all the Holy Bible, and remember that the original was NOT written in English.
The newer version of the bible r edited lol💀💀💀💀💀 Its no longer 22/42 it's both 22 now. Instead of facing Their mistake, they had to "edit it" cuz they know you can't possibly have 2 ages at the same time!! So please if u found any mistakes in the bible don't try to explain it yourself cuz will look ridiculous, and wait for the next update instead 🤍 May allah guide this people😮💨..
Very good teaching! Love the consistency and perfection of God's word! The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you always!
Wow thank you soooo much for this...the next time someone brings this up I am forwarding them this video...God BLess You Sir!!!!
can you summarize his answer?
@@Omar-j2t it’s been 2years since I watched the video but before I re-watch it…basically from what I can remember there were 2 guys with the same name, ruling the kingdom off and on around the same time who died at two different times. I can see why ppl might get confused by that. 🤗
@@Omar-j2t now that I re-watched some of it basically the same guy ruled at different times … first as a proxy king while the real king was at war (at 22years of age) and later as king (though illegitimately…not of the line of David) at age 42…in the end God restored the line of David to the throne so Messiah could and would come through his line as foretold. But really you should watch the whole thing…he explains it all in detail.👍
@@redwolf7227 I did, but i did not understand fully. Did he rule for ONE year at both times in his life? meaning he ruled as a proxy for just ONE year and as an actual king for just ONE year? i don't remember (chicktracts) clarifying this, i could be mistaken.
@@Omar-j2t the first time was just long enough to keep the seat warm while the kings were off to battle…the second time was not long…I did not catch how long…I do get that given the genealogy in Matthew, 4 generations of the kings in Judah were not of the line of David …so God did a round-about action and through cousins who were of the line of David he restored the line to the throne after all of the evil that the decedents of ahab (Omari’s) line had done in Judah.
🤔Proverbs 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: 👉but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.👈😊
not sure if you watched the full video but after 8:58 he says its his "theory" and that this is no warranted by the bible. What happens when spend your whole life searching out an answer to the matter, and never get one?
@@Omar-j2t Deuteronomy 29:29 The secret things belong unto
the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong
unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.
@@Omar-j2t Daniel 2:22 He revealeth the deep and secret things: he knoweth what is in the darkness, and the light dwelleth with him.
@@biblereadingoutreach2284 We're not talking about "secret things," we're talking about an age inconsistency. To my knowledge, an age of a person is not a theological belief, it's just information.
1 Corinthians 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
God sure is confusing me. We're not even talking about the trinity, we're literally talking about the most miNUTE detail that has no theological impact. On the other hand, this does serious red flags about the accuracy, and reliability of the bible. You and I are able to make those mistakes, but God is above us in all aspects, meaning it is not in his nature to make those mistakes.
@@Omar-j2t
Psalm 131
A Song of degrees of David.
1 LORD, my heart is not haughty, nor mine eyes lofty: neither do I exercise myself in great matters, or in things too high for me.
2 Surely I have behaved and quieted myself, as a child that is weaned of his mother: my soul is even as a weaned child.
3 Let Israel hope in the LORD from henceforth and for ever.
Thank you so much Brother David, for your prayerful efforts to rightly divide this challenging passage. I have not seen you reply very often to this channel but I would sincerely appreciate it if you would reply to me. I follow your argument completely, find it convincing, but there are a few questions from the text that I still have: 1) Who is Jehoahaz in 2 Chronicles 21:17? It seems he is identical with Ahaziah because of the description in 2 Chronicles 22:1. In both places he is called the son of the king or the son of Jehoram. Your argument states that Ahaziah was not of David’s bloodline, but Jehoram was of David’s bloodline. So how could Ahaziah not be of David’s bloodline also? Thanks so much.
@David Daniels Thank you so much for explaining this. I had just finished Kings and Chronicals and you explained it where I could understand it. God bless you and please keep up the good work.
Very well done Brother David.
There is so much in what you just revealed, it will take a while to completely unpack it. Thank you! You're such a blessing to the body of Christ. You've restored much faith in the word of God by unraveling the changes made by men, which then further exhalts the KJB! 💕
KJV followed the Masoretic text here, which has a mistake.
@earlysda First you should name what that mistake(s) is/are? Next, according to your philosophy, all Bibles have mistakes because no Bible is perfect! So what are you talking about now? If that's not your philosophy, which Bible Version is Perfect? Can't even name them all because there are hundreds and they all say different things so go ahead and entertain me! Thanks in advance.
@@Jae_hX JTHill, 2Timothy 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
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Proverbs 26:12 You have seen a man wise in his own opinion - there is more hope for a fool than for him.
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Please repent, and ready your Holy Bible as if your soul depends on it, because it does!
Thanks Mr Daniels for this fascinating and insightful analysis of this part of biblical history
Isn’t the end result wonderful when someone challenges the inerrancy of the KJV Bible, causing us to dig deeper, learn more, and strengthen our faith that the LORD has provided his perfect word, translated accurately in English for us? Mr. Daniels, this truly was a difficult subject, but well worth your diligent study in scripture alone, and a very likely answer to the puzzle concerning Ahaziah’s age, co-regency, and also why kings’ names are missing in the Matthew 1 genealogy of Jesus Christ.
I am forever fascinated by the mysteries in the Bible, and the excitement when they are solved. This cannot be done with any of the modern versions which lead to dead-ends as the words and thoughts are changed. The KJV is always reliable in understanding knowledge. Jesus answered his disciples concerning why he spoke to the people in parables, and “He answered them and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.” (Matt 13:11 KJV)
Addressing the coup of Athaliah of the wicked house of Omri (Saul, et al), it was an attempt to take over the southern kingdom of Judah, and make void the everlasting covenant (2 Sam 23:5) and promise of God to David “..thine house and thy kingdom shall be established for ever before thee: thy throne shall be established for ever.” (2 Sam 7:16) Athaliah, under the influence of Satan, destroyed the royal seed (2 Kg 11:1) taking the throne for herself until she was slain. From what tribe was Omri? The Bible does not directly specify, however, before becoming king in Israel, he was a captain of the host, and “Omri went up from Gibbethon, and all Israel with him, …” (1 Kg 16:17) Gibbethon was a portion of the tribe of Dan. (Josh 19:44).
Why is the tribe of Dan excluded in Revelation 7? Samson, of the tribe of Dan, was indeed a saint (Hebrews 11:32), but did the evil of the house of Omri cause the tribe’s name to be written out? Here’s a curve ball, now, was Judas Iscariot also of Dan? Were not both of these, Athaliah and Judas, used of Satan to ultimately try to destroy Jesus’ future position as King from the lineage of King David, and, failing that, to murder him when he came in the flesh? The possibility of Judas being of the tribe of Dan is based upon “For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and, His bishoprick let another take.” (Acts 2:20) Psalm 109:8 was quoted. Reading the entire Psalm 109, but in particular, if these wicked ones were of the tribe of Dan, which is written out in Revelation 7, the text of Psalm 109:13-15 is stunning: “Let his posterity be cut off: and in the generation following let their name be blotted out. Let the iniquity of his fathers be remembered with the LORD; and let not the sin of his mother be blotted out. Let them be before the LORD continually, that he may cut off the memory of them from the earth.”
Thanks for the chance to comment.
Awesome comments like these are why I read the comments section
@Ahmed Khaled103 I'm going to take a wild guess and say that you are a follower of Mohammed? You know, the one who married a 6 year old girl and had sex with her when she was only 9?
This is one of the best posts I've ever read on the comment section!!!
Most replies are trash or lack any real study. Thank you 🙏
@@KingjamesAV1611 😯Thank you!
Haleluya. This video answers a lot of people skeptic and curious about the Bible.
Interesting that I've been working on creating a timeline of biblical dates and that this came up simultaneously with my getting to the same point in my timeline.
What a "coincidence" 😄
I think chronology is my weakest subject. My brain gets twisted in knots trying to figure out all that stuff. Lol
It must be all the numbers and math, Lol!
Thank you so much!! Thi really helped me defend my faith
Praise the Lord! Thank bro David for Faithfully walking through the Bible and looking for God’s leading to reconcile to clear out misunderstandings in this Biblical text challenges. Same with you here… we stand with the Word of God.
You made our studies and research of the text easier through the help of the Holy Spirit and His revelation.
God bless!!
I hope you can share all the verses so we can further include or add more verses connected to this topic.
Shalom!!
Very good. Please keep making videos like this one. I really like things broken down & explained.
Thanks so much for taking the time to figure this out and putting it into a digestible order. I have been studying this for two days straight (over 12 hours) plus looking at it a few times in the past. I threw up my hands in hopelessness a few times after I filled up 3 white boards trying to draw out different possibilities. I used Floyd Nolan Jones who is usually pretty good, but he goes to the Hebrew and alters the English text. I used the commentaries and found what I expected there: “should’ve been 22 in both places” and I went to “errors in the King James Bible” which took me the farthest, but I couldn’t see that ahaziah was not of the seed of david. I feel bad now because that was the first statement in Matthew that I overlooked. It’s obvious now why those men were left out. Thanks again brother. From your first few words in the video I knew you had the answer.
In confused can u explain to me on laymen's terms why the age is not a contradiction ?
@@gurjeetdeol6291According to him Ahaziah served as proxy king when he was 22 i.e he was not officially king. At 42 he was officially proclaimed king.
Awesome!! Thanks for the insight!!
Amazing. Your work is very appreciated!!
Wow thank you!
Interesting take. Bears watching.
Good bless you
As always we can count on you (and I'm sure miss Deborah helped) to set the record straight!! A nice way to spend part of my day after Christmas (2022) ;-) Lord bless you my friend ;-)
My head is spinning now brother Daniels. Thanks for explaining this though.
This explanation reminds me of a complex Calculus question I could not even think of how to begin to solve. Anyways God Bless.
😂😂😂😂😂 I know right? The Mathematics is not matching.
😂😂😂😂😂 I know right? The Mathematics is not Mathing
Thank you Sir! Praise God , our Bible KJV is without error!
Thank you sir, God bless you
Why thank you for teaching me this alternative explanation! Maybe there’s no contradiction between 2 Chronicles 22:2 and 2 Kings 8:26!
When you use the word “maybe” that means you’re accepting assumptions to prove there is no contradiction.
The fact is there are contradictions everywhere, but christians refuse to admit it. To prove there are no contradictions, you have no option but to make up stories that are not in the Bible.
Thank you so much Sir. May the Almighty God Bless you for your teachings ❤️❤️❤️💝
The end was the best what an amazing revelation i've to go through this couple of times to fully understand the message behind the teaching may the lord bless you exceedingly and abundantly more and more Ammen
It was mistaken.
Here is what the Holy Bible states:
2Kings 8:26 Two and twenty years old [was] Ahaziah when he began to reign; and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. And his mother's name [was] Athaliah, the daughter of Omri king of Israel.
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2Chronicles 22:2 Forty and two years old [was] Ahaziah when he began to reign, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. His mother's name also [was] Athaliah the daughter of Omri.
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Notice the "REIGNED ONE YEAR" part that he missed covering in this video.
I heard a great debate. That he reigned 2 times. Once because his father was sick. I can't comfirm this. I haven't prayed or fasted on this. I have tackled many many of hard subjects and by the power of the Holy Ghost. I have been given all answers. This is a new one to me. Thanks for you video and great work. God bless.
I was told all the kings of the north were bad too. But then i came across Jehu of 2nd Kings 9. He wasn't perfect, but he was awesome!
Jehu was the best northern king.
What about Jehu of 2nd Kings 10?
This answers that question for me.thank you,brother David.
Thanks!
He was 22 years old but his family had 42 years as a whole. Counting his father reign.
Amen bro these,studies are a blessing to many
Thank you for explaining..
I'd like to see Dr. hovind team up with Dr. Daniels and do a series on supposed contradictions in the King James Bible?
2 Kings 11:20 And all the people of the land rejoiced, and the city was in quiet: and they slew Athaliah with the sword beside the king’s house.
Good stuff!
1:05 I think I found it want to hear your calculations
I still don’t get it. It does not make sense. He was 22 as proxy king and 42 he became official king. Still we have a problem. It says he reigned for one year in 22 and he reigned one year when he was 42. Am I the only one who don’t get it ?
He became a proxy king for one year. He was a proxy king later at 42 and died after a year.
I have to listen to this video again. 😅
Wonderful teaching Yahweh Adonai is so faithful.
What verse did you learn that name from , or , are you somehow a Hebrew who speaks in English when they talk ? God has revealed himself in the manifestation of Jesus Christ , revealing his name ..." I have come in my father's name " " I have manifested thy name " ...God manifest in flesh 1timothy 3:16
@@onlymyself7225 your question is unlearned.
Dear Brother David Daniels;
In my humble opinion I believe the Bible answers this quandary in James 3:16
"For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work."
With all the envying and strife the scribes of the day must have gotten confused on how old king Ahaziah was when he began to reign. Because both passages of scripture are so simular except for the kings age it must have been the scribes of those evil days who were so confused.
Thanks for all of your schollerly work.
Brother Joseph, I'm not Jesus Father but I know him.
YAY! I love that. Thank you.
Hey David,
Can you explain why the Septuagint in second chronicles 2:22 actually says 20 years old? Just curious.
You're way off. They were twins. The bible says they were born of the same mother.
Wish there existed a genealogy chart to explain this as I can't even keep track of who's who by the names.
I'll put a simplified chart in an upcoming book. God bless you! - David
@@DWDaniels wheres the chart?
Hello my brother in Christ , thank you so much for this video- I really enjoyed it! I just wanted to say I think you meant Athaliah is the “Daughter “ of Ahab, not his sister because King Omri was her grandfather
Miacaiah is one of my favourite prophets.
"Study to show yourself approved. ..." the best commentary is come and tarry.
Much too complex for my feeble mind.
Yeah I'm going to listen again.
Don't call yourself feeble. Call yourself Strong in the Lord!
@@louisestaats234 Amen
Thank you so much for this. Is it possible for you to explain 2 Samuel 15:7 ?
Thats talking about Absalom's age. In that verse. Cause obviously when you match the time frames in Chapter 14 with that verse in 15:7 they don't match...right? So..its talking about Absalom's AGE! After 40 years, Absalom had to be at least in his forties(AT LEAST) cause as it is written, if you balance the time frames they dont line up. It IS a reference unto Absalom's age friend.😀
@@accountablekjv3295 I've searched that route. Absalom's maximum age was 37.
Check Floyd Nolan Jones. I believe he has an answer for this without correcting the KJB.
After 40 years from what? That is the question you need to ask. It doesn't tell you. The burden of proof is on the person accusing it of being a contradiction or problem.
It's 40 years after David killed Goliath. Notice that the context is absolutely when he steals the hearts the children of Israel. So 40 years after David won the hearts the children of Israel his son does
Jumping Johosaphat
2 Chronicles 24:7 For the sons of💃 Athaliah,🧛♀️ that wicked woman💃, had broken up the house of God; and also all the dedicated things of the house of the LORD did they bestow upon Baalim.
wow! Nice I always wondered and questioned myself about the 14 Generations cuz i only counted up till like 9 or 10 generations...
in Matthew Chapter 1... up till the exile into Babylon...thanx, David! Love your (God's) show!
It’s ok though! A lot of it can be so confusing. I was becoming discouraged studying it too until I saw your video 🙏❤️
I believe that there was a coregency between Jehoram and his son Ahaziah
Examples of coregency
1Kings 1: 47
2Kings 15: 5
2Kings 8: 16-17,25-26
2Chronicles 21: 16-20
2Chronicles 22: 1-2
In the fifth year of King Joram of Israel, Jehotam reigned at the age of 32, 8 years
This means that when King Jehoram died, the period of Joram's rule over Israel was 13 years
King Ahaziah reigned over Judah when Joram ruled Israel for 12 years
This means that Ahaziah ruled jointly with his father Jehoram one year before his father died of illness
He was 22 years old at that time, and he ruled the first time
The band of men that came with the Arabians had slain all the elders this means that a long time passed, until all the elders died, and a new generation appeared
This generation elected Ahaziah king for the second time at the age of 42
yo i have a question, Jehoram died in 40 years old yea? with sickness. But after Jehoram comes Ahaziah, how come Ahaziah is 2 years old than Jehoram?
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Ahaziah ruled twice, not once. The second time, his age was older than the entire lifespan of his father, who had been dead for decades due to his illness.
@@tariqhaddad7298 so 2 Chronicles 21:20 ( Thirty and two years old was he when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem eight years, and departed without being desired. Howbeit they buried him in the city of David, but not in the sepulchres of the kings)
2 Chronicle 22:1-2 (And the inhabitants of Jerusalem made Ahaziah his youngest son king in his stead: for the band of men that came with the Arabians to the camp had slain all the eldest. So Ahaziah the son of Jehoram king of Judah reigned.
2 Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. His mother's name also was Athaliah the daughter of Omri.)
So Jehoram was 40 when he died in 2 Chronicles 21, and the next time Azaiah rose into power in age of 42. I don't understand this part. Like why is Azaiah older than his father?
@@rattlesss
Look at my first comment, which contains the explanation and mentions the scriptural evidence
@@tariqhaddad7298 is there any scripture that said there are gap between Jehoram and Azaiah? I'd like to look forwarded it
But doesn't 2 Chron 22:1 say that Ahaziah's father was Jehoram? I personally think that the 42 is by a different calendar; he was the last King reigning in the line of Omri (house of Ahab). He began reigning 42 years after Omri began to reign. He was 22 by age, 42 as the last reigning member of the house of Ahab/Omri. that's the only way I can get it to work
A step father, a father by marriage, is still called a father. California has lots of them.
I've heard of that solution too. The only problem I have with it is that it solves the apparent error in the text by claiming the other part of the text is in error. So, when it says Ahaziah was 42 years old when he began to reign, Bible correctors usually say the number "42" is an error and it should instead be 22; this apparent solution says that the number 42 is not an error, it is correct but that the name "Ahaziah" is in error as it should instead be "the house of Omri"
In my eyes this solution is no better than other bible-corrector's solutions. Just say something in the text is wrong.
Brother Daniel, where can I get a small bible such as the one you held in your hand. I want the smallest complete bible there is. Do you know where to get one? God bless you beloved brother.
Mine isn't made anymore, but a similar compact Bible is made by Zondervan. Compact, red letter, center column reference. Good bless you - David
David Daniels . Thank you brother David. God bless you, and see you in Heaven, Randy.
Randy Sanger , Randy if you go to antique shops you can sometimes pick up KJV, in book sections. I have found a number of them. Happy shopping
I seem to recall Dr Hovind tackle this or a similar question about the age of a king of Israel in one of his videos defending The KJB.
So, how is Genesis 49:10 explained? It says "The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be." If "all the seed royal" of Judah was killed, it would seem that for a time the scepter indeed departed from Judah for some years.
This is a complicated subject. I haven't resolved it in my mind but am thinking there may have been three different Ahaziahs; one for Israel and two for Judah.
There has not been a king of Judah for thousands of years now. The sceptre represents a right to rule. It does not mean that a king should always be on the throne. A king was not on a throne until hundreds of years after Genesis 49:10 was written. Jer. 33:14-17. The context of this passage is the millennial Kingdom of Jesus Christ..
@@hermonymusofsparta Actually the context is the coming of Jesus Christ to this earth about 2,000 years ago.
Listened to this again.
Hm...
Is it just me or---is the short answer just as perplexing as the Long answer...what does that say about my poor brain Mr. Daniels?
But (shaking my wittle fist of power).....I WILL LISTEN AGAIN!!!
and um....ahem.....a...a...again.
Maybe subtitles will help...
Both yes 0:47
The spirit of God dwells within you. Your eyes the calmness in your voice. Amex for this
Amen
9:47
Athaliah is the Grand daughter of Omri (II King 22:3 ) ;
Ahab is the son of Omri (I King 22:40)
How were they being brother and sister???
2 Ki 22:3 doesn't say anything about Athaliah
2 Kings 8:26 Athaliah was the daughter of Omri. If you assume “granddaughter” like most commentators, you’ll never solve the supposed contradiction.
Greetings Rajasekar; In the same way many in the Old Testament thought... see Genesis 13:8... "And Abram said unto Lot {Uncle to Nephew}, Let there be no strife, I pray thee, between me and thee, and between my herdmen and thy herdmen; for we be BRETHREN." Praying this is helpful...
- bro Paul -
@@paulb.searles7481 tq brother!
2 Kings 8:26 Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign; and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. And his mother’s name was Athaliah, the daughter of Omri king of Israel.
2 Kings 11:14 And when she looked, behold, the king stood by a pillar, as the manner was, and the princes and the trumpeters by the king, and all the people of the land rejoiced, and blew with trumpets: and Athaliah rent her clothes, and cried, Treason, Treason.
Athaliah. Be a good name for an ornery cat.
Hi Brother David, where did you get that ESV Catholic Edition (as shown at very near end of this clip)? I searched and found only TWO sources - Joyofgifting and ATC Books in India. The ISBN is 9789386516329. But it's impossible to order due to their payment system unless I live in India! I collect Alexandrian bibles for research purposes like you do yet I only read KJV. And btw your video was very interesting about Ahaziah!
Yes that was crazy 2:27
Recently departed , Peter Ruckman also did some work on this very subject.
Why would it be so terrible that an error in a translation might occur?
It would give people an excuse to reject other portions of the Bible based on the presumed errors they may also contain.
@@isaacdrake yeh, I get that, but none of the “errors” even come close to imputing any tenants of the faith. Most are merely transcription errors that are easily identified through textual criticism. I believe the original texts were perfect, but to say some insignificant error could never make it into someone’s version of the Bible seems a little disingenuous, and maybe bordering on the delusion of human perfectionism.
PRAISE KING JESUS l learned that's it's two different kinds with the same name one ruling isreal and the other judah 😍🤩😘
Than how is Athaliah mother of Ahaziah if her brother’s name is also Ahaziah?, as it states in both scriptures she is a mother to both Ahaziah’s.
Well, you're definitely a sage.
2 Kings 11:2 But Jehosheba, the daughter of king Joram, sister of Ahaziah, took Joash the son of Ahaziah, and stole him from among the king’s sons which were slain; and they hid him, even him and his nurse, in the bedchamber from Athaliah, so that he was not slain.
Mr. Daniels, great research and thanks for showing us how to defend the Word with the KJB.
I realize you are a busy man but I have an important request though.
Can you please do a review of the so- called 'Children's Bible's' that are hitting the market?
I saw one the other day that for me was a little on the 'Harry Potterish' side and it was an NIV called "Incredible Creatures and Creations.
It's hard to find good a good children's Bible and just wanted your thoughts and recommendations for us parents with wittle one's.
Might I ask the purpose in seeking a Children's Bible? My 6 and 7 year Olds have been reading their way through the KJV for awhile now. They don't understand it all, but as this video proves, neither do most people. God reveals to us what we can take. The key is just to keep reading. I think trying to flash the Bible up for children is dangerous. They need to learn to love the Good Old Bood from a young age.
"By 862, Athaliah is married to 18 year old Jehoram. The next year, 861, Jehoshaphat wants..." The calendar goes backwards?
Yes. 862 BC...861 BC would be the next year.
what happened to his eye?
It's a birthmark
@@chicktracts wow that's amazing. Also sorry
Also- and this is slightly off topic, but I would encourage people to read 1 Samuel 13:1 and compare it with multiple translations. I think the KJV accurately preserves the meaning. Most scholars will say Saul ruled for 40 years, but I don’t think this is true. Compare this with the Ark of the Covenant’s chronology being moved to Kirjath-Jearim and later to Jerusalem by David (1 Sam 7:2; 2 Sam 6:3-12). Could Saul have been 40 years old when he became king (as opposed to ruling for 40 years)? I’m not an expert in the Greek (Acts 13:21) but I think a case can be made that the 40 years is in reference to his age. If I’m right, then I think the KJV’s translation is the most superior available.
As for your theory about Ahaziah and his mother, I can’t remember exactly, but I think it sounds very similar to that which was brought up by Floyd Jones.
Ahh so beautiful a shadow of the line of Messiah how can you refute the Bible
What is interesting to me is the possibility that Jehorams son Jehoahaz very well could have been taken to Israel and made Jehu's heir. If this is the case, then during at least a portion of the ~54 years when the seed of David was not ruling In Judah, his heir was ruling over Israel instead.
2 Kings 11:1 And when Athaliah the mother of Ahaziah saw that her son was dead, she arose and destroyed all the seed royal.
This conundrum is one of many apparent contradictions atheists and agnostics, particularly ex christian, chuck out. The dating and records of the ancient near east is a difficult one for the reasons David outlines.
Acts 17:11 These were more noble👍 than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched👀 the scriptures daily📖, whether those things were so.✅
2Kings 8, "begin to reign" & "began to reign" & "and he reigned" all three of these statments come from the single Hebrew word "Malak". Now Malak, depending on the context of the verse could either mean H4427 (Mickelson's Enhanced Strong's Dictionaries of the Greek and Hebrew Testaments)
H4427 מָלַךְ malak (maw-lak') v.
1. to reign.
2. (inceptively) to ascend the throne.
3. (causatively) to induct into royalty.
4. (hence, by implication) to take counsel.
Thus at age 22 Ahaziah began to "take counsel" and NOT when he began to reign. There is no "copiest error" as many suggest. Peace:)
🤔.............................. 😖😵 I'll take your word for it brother, this bible study too great for me to completely absorb.
I’ve been studying the Divided Kingdom Chronology in depth for several years now. Know that in this area of study, there are a lot of very poorly researched theories floating out there. Three cheers for the answer to this discrepancy that says Ahaziah was both 22 and 42 years old when he started ruling. It sounds crazy, but sometimes details may appear to be contradictory, but in reality, they’re both describing the same thing accurately from different perspectives. This is consistent all throughout the books of Kings and Chronicles which provide dates reckoned from different starting points.
David- if you want a challenge, try to explain why King Ahaz was about 11 years old when Hezekiah was born (I would argue when the chronology is properly calibrated, alleged problems like these disappear)!
And if you want to laugh, read Christine Tetley’s “The Reconstructed Chronology of the Divided Kingdom”. Then cry when you realize she was awarded a doctoral degree for that work!
If you want to give yourself nightmares, google youngest woman to give birth. It is possible for young people to conceive.
I'm not familiar with the passage you are referring to, but what you proposed is not an impossibility. In fact there are very recent examples.
"Con tan solo 11 años, niño mexicano es el padre más joven del mundo" [With only 11 years, Mexican child is the world's youngest father]. Telemundo (in Spanish). November 12, 2015.
i have a question, wasn't Jehoram died in age of 40? because of sickness. But Azaiah ruled in 42 which is 2 years older from his father, Jehoram. Can you help explaining it to me?
@@rattlesssit was explained on the video, that Jehoram was 19 when he travelled with his dad, Jehosaphath, and his foster son, Ahaziah, son of Athaliah, daughter of Ahab, was 22 and thus become the proxy of Judah kingdom. Athaliah was whoring with unknown/ unname male before she married jehoram (political marriage) when she was 16, And that explains why ahaziah was 2 years older than jehoram, his foster dad.
Wow, it takes a lot of faith to be able to question Gods word. But as you said, God pushes us to go on exploring, and with time he reveals treasures (i've had some great findings too).
I'm now stuck on the differences in the 2 genealogies (Matt1 and Luke 3)
I can't believe God made such a mistake, there must be something i'm missing here.
This is incredible - I'm getting the answer while i'm writing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Luke is not a genealogy ! We're misunderstanding the word "Son"
I need to do some research...
I'm back. Busy evening... In Luke the word "son" is not there, i mean it's not in the greek ! It's just a list of nouns (sorry for the KJV -- KJV is the best anyway ;-))
As I said, it's not even a genealogy, (contrary to Matt 1:1) luke doesn't define itself as one.
It's a sort of genealogy but not a genealogy of the flesh, it's a genealogy of the spirit. It makes completely sens as it follows Jesus baptism, just 2 verses earlier !
This explains why King Salomon is not in the list.
And also a difference with the genealogies in Genesis. Arpakshad begot Shélah in the book of Genesis but in Luke the spirit went to Kaïnam first. I guess Shélah turned to God later on, or maybe he just was too young.
Joseph (Mary's hudband) didnt' get the spirit from his natural father but from another spiritual father. And i guess he (Joseph) must have died at the start of Jesus's ministery as no there in no mention of him elsewhere in the NT.
I'm not going to make English videos about this, I'm frensh. Feel free to use - it's the word of God, not me.
God bless you brother - keep on the exploring. Many more things to find !
@@povoq83 Joseph's genealogy is in Matthew, & Mary's genealogy is in Luke... Praying this is helpful. Jesus' humanity came through Mary's line. - bro Paul -
@@paulb.searles7481 Ive heard that argument before. It has no fondation. Luke is not a genealogy and it mentions Joseph not Mary.
Even if it was Marys genealogy it would still contradict the genealogies of the OT.
Athaliah was more evil than Jezebel.
1. Margaret Hilda Thatcher was elected Prime Minister of the UK in 1979, she was aged (?) when she was elected.
2. Margaret Hilda Thatcher was elected Prime Minister of the UK in 1983, she was aged (?) when she was elected.
3. Margaret Hilda Thatcher was elected Prime Minister of the UK in 1987, she was aged (?) when she was elected.
All of these statements are true. If you Isolate these statements and try to make them one event there would be an apparent contradiction. We often assume politics is a neat transition when we look back at history and the further we are removed from it. The bible illustrated political confusion at the time Solomon was anointed the King.
Exodus 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
I thought of Dr.James White as been a brilliant Bible Scholar and theologian but David W.Daniels make circles around Dr.James White and make him look like an amateur!.In a bible (KJV vs NIV) debate between Dr.James White and David W.Daniels I could bet my house on favor of David W.Daniels, hands down he is far superior in bible knowledge and history!.
Contradiction, yet you still believe it is the true unchanged word of God
That’s a cute little icon.
Greetings Dolum Doli; The correct term is paradox: not contradiction. A contradiction would be "King so-and-so was 22 years old when he began to reign" and "King so-and-so was NOT 22 years old when he began to reign"... Trusting this is helpful, In Christ Jesus, - bro Paul -
Here's something you might find very interesting and useful. Considering the critics of the KJV often rely on the Septuagint rather than the Masoretic text, and they love putting forth the idea that Jesus preferred the Septuagint which they believe is more accurate..
Well in 2 Chronicles 22:2, the Septuagint doesn't say that Ahaziah was 22 OR 42.. it says neither!!! The Septuagint says he was 20 years old. 😆
Thought you might get a kick out of that. The KJB claims victory in accuracy yet again. (Once I realized Jehoram fell sick with a horrible painful disease for two years before dying, the dots started connecting.)
2 Kings 11:3 And he was with her hid in the house of the LORD six years. And Athaliah did reign over the land.
42? Ahaziah died at 22. There are two Ahaziahs. Their deaths are recorded different. The 22 year old was wounded in his chariot and died in Megiddo from Jehu's men. The 42 year old was captured and brought to Jehu and killed infront of him. These are not the same men.
Both passages are referring to the same Ahaziah even though there is another Ahaziah. 2 Kings 8:25, 26 and 2 Chronicles 22:1, 2 both say "...Ahaziah the son of Jehoram king of Judah..."
@@isaacdrake No they aren't. The 22 year old died in Megiddo the 42 year old died in Samaria these are not the same men. One was buried in the City of David the other was not. Athaliah has more than one son. One ruled in the 11th year one in the 12th year. Both are counted as his son. Is Jesus the biological son of David? No. Joseph is called Heli son how and he married his daughter?? Son in the bible is used very different.
I came back to this video to look for this. I’m beginning to think you may be right about two Ahaziahs who died differently, ruled a year apart, and had their brethren killed at different times (by Jehu and Arabians).
What I cannot figure out is how Joash is called the son of Ahaziah, Jehoram, and Jehoshaphat (2 kings 12:19), but he is missing in Matthew 1. Why would Mat. exclude 3 generations is he was “begat” by jehoram and Jehoshaphat?
I know he can be a step son and step grandson.
Also, why would athaliah want to kill “all the seed royal” including Joash if he isn’t in the line of Judah?
Lots of words expended to try and mislead people.
That is not good.
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Here is what the Holy Bible states:
2Kings 8:26 Two and twenty years old [was] Ahaziah when he began to reign; and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. And his mother's name [was] Athaliah, the daughter of Omri king of Israel.
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2Chronicles 22:2 Forty and two years old [was] Ahaziah when he began to reign, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. His mother's name also [was] Athaliah the daughter of Omri.
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Notice the "REIGNED ONE YEAR" part that you missed covering in this video.
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Let's believe all the Holy Bible, and remember that the original was NOT written in English.
The newer version of the bible r edited lol💀💀💀💀💀
Its no longer 22/42 it's both 22 now. Instead of facing Their mistake, they had to "edit it" cuz they know you can't possibly have 2 ages at the same time!!
So please if u found any mistakes in the bible don't try to explain it yourself cuz will look ridiculous, and wait for the next update instead 🤍
May allah guide this people😮💨..
Your Muslim brother UA-cam Sam Shamoun talks a lot about allah, enjoy :)
Septugent it's 20..
David, are you a night owl? Did you check on that question yet, that I inquired about? Major on the majors.
I'm sorry, I have no idea what you are talking about. God bless you!- David