Grace versus Works Debunked (Debunked)

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  • Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
  • Testing the teaching of Messianic rabbi Steve Berkson that "It’s not works versus grace, it's works AND grace." Rabbi Berkson defines "grace" as merited favor. He says, "It's the opposite of what you were taught. How shocking is that? Another thing the church taught you backwards. It's merited favor. That's why works and grace go together. Because it's your works that merit the favor." We will test his claims against the Bible as he walks us through the idea of grace, works, and faith, and what these things have to do with our salvation.
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    CHAPTERS
    00:00 Warning about testing teachings, intro to Rabbi Steve Bergson
    04:08 The ISR Scriptures translation of the Bible
    07:14 Grace is “merited favor”
    15:01 Salvation is available.
    19:08 Your works get you into the Kingdom of God
    20:15 Jesus did His part
    22:34 Christianity teaches no personal responsibility
    24:36 We need to do our part.
    28:52 You were put here to do the work
    35:09 A training ground for your works
    37:58 It’s not about salvation (But it is)
    45:27 You have to earn it.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 713

  • @inezm.rodriguez7329
    @inezm.rodriguez7329 Місяць тому +4

    Thanks so much for these studies. I was also a sabbath keeper, when I first heard about sabbath and other things I was excited to do all that I thought God wanted from me and I remember feeling prideful because I was in the true church. As time passed my questions and doubts grew. I battled with guilt for years, afraid that I was doing the wrong thing by leaving this denomination and losing my salvation, I’m so grateful the Lord has revealed His truth.

    • @rightousliving
      @rightousliving 14 днів тому

      Keeping the Sabbath holy is not something that makes us better than others. Even gentiles should honour the Sabbath but it’s not a law for them. There is no punishment for not keeping it but a reward if they do. Any church that threatens with hellfire is just a cult. God is a righteous judge, not a monster who enjoys torturing people for all eternity, no matter how evil they were. People are judged according to what they have done, an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. Eternal punishment is no just punishment for something you did for a period of time. The church has made God into a monster who you must love or else you go to hell. Thats not God at all. God loves you, even if you sin, and rejoices when you repent.

    • @genestudniskisr2658
      @genestudniskisr2658 7 днів тому

      Where did Jesus say He came so now we can disregard what He says?

  • @SethYoderMusic
    @SethYoderMusic 7 місяців тому +21

    An example from my own life... I was addicted to porn. It took me a while to realize that I CAN'T free myself of the addiction. It was getting somewhat better due to my own attempts, but when the Holy Spirit set me free from it, there was NO QUESTION that I would be forever 100% free from it. The deliverance came over me in an instant. Not that I may never stumble ever again, but that's not even my focus or worry anymore, and the sin no longer has dominion over me. I'm not a slave to it anymore. It's been about 2 years now, and I haven't gone back to porn, PRAISE JESUS! It's a deliverance that can only come from God. And it only comes when we REPENT from our self righteous deeds and throw ourselves at His mercy that we don't deserve and that we'll never deserve. And He will cleanse us of our sin. The good "works" of a Christian truly do come from a changed heart. We are new creations!!!

    • @TheBiblicalRoots
      @TheBiblicalRoots  7 місяців тому +5

      Amen! Thank you for sharing your story, Seth. God is so good!
      Rob

    • @cynthiahunter2570
      @cynthiahunter2570 6 місяців тому +1

      Praise God!

    • @MandMe91
      @MandMe91 6 місяців тому

      Seth...sin never had dominion over you.
      Paul said "Sin apart from the law is dead" . Do you believe him?

    • @SethYoderMusic
      @SethYoderMusic 6 місяців тому

      @@MandMe91 But I had knowledge of the law while I was in bondage to my sinful addiction. My "no more dominion" verbiage is taken out of Romans 6:12.

    • @MandMe91
      @MandMe91 6 місяців тому

      @@SethYoderMusic
      Seth...you were never under the law.
      You couldn't have had knowledge of it.
      The law was only given to old Covenant Israel and has not existed for nearly two thousand years.
      **He has revealed his word to Jacob,
      his laws and decrees to Israel.
      He has done this for NO other nation;
      they DO NOT know his laws. Psalm 147
      That verse tells you that you did not know God's laws.

  • @gavinburns2165
    @gavinburns2165 7 місяців тому +16

    Faith without works is dead. Faith with works is alive.

    • @simonskinner1450
      @simonskinner1450 6 місяців тому +2

      The works of faith in James are good works, but the works of the law quoted by Paul are transgressions, and the imputation of sin as Romans 3:20.

    • @rightousliving
      @rightousliving 2 місяці тому

      @@simonskinner1450 I wouldn't be so sure. In James 4 he references the law in the context of not judging your brother, that if you judge the law you are not a doer of the law, but a judge. He also references the prophets (which includes Moses) as an example to follow (Jam 5:10).

    • @michaelmacias8
      @michaelmacias8 Місяць тому

      Amen. Faith in the bible means Fidelity

    • @debravan-aalst4723
      @debravan-aalst4723 15 днів тому

      @@simonskinner1450the book of the law contained in ordinances is different to the book of the covenant which was transacted 450 years before the sin of the golden calf which brought in the law of ordinances which have now been abolished. The covenant has been renewed through the blood of Christ instead of bulls and goats which were a temporary measure to bring awareness of sin, not freedom from it as His perfect sacrifice has done

    • @simonskinner1450
      @simonskinner1450 15 днів тому

      @@rightousliving James is making the point of not judging others other than against God's laws, brethren are under the jurisdiction of God's laws, and must be held accountable to them, and as such must not be spoken against.
      The prophets suffered by the hand and mouth of fellow believers, as they made up there own laws, and were called hypocrites.
      The point I make is that "works of the law" are not attempts to keep the law, but the imputation or accusation of sin. That is the subject if my #1 Ytube video in the series 'Myths in so-called Christianity'.

  • @rayray4192
    @rayray4192 6 місяців тому +8

    The quintessential definition of grace is unmerited favor. All redeemed saints come to God empty handed. We have nothing to give God except our sins.

    • @judemichaelvelez6789
      @judemichaelvelez6789 Місяць тому

      Amen and amen.

    • @coreybray9834
      @coreybray9834 29 днів тому

      @rayray4192
      5 months ago
      The quintessential definition of grace is unmerited favor. All redeemed saints come to God empty handed. We have nothing to give God except our sins.
      *Paul might think so as he argues that we are saved by grace and not of works in Ephesians 2:8-9. Yet, Christ comes back to these same Ephesians in Revelation 2 and warns them if they don’t “Repent and DO THE FIRST WORKS” that he will remove their candlestick, only granting right to the tree of life to those who overcome in this message. Why didn’t Christ rather say, “Look, don’t bother, just believe grace will save you?” like Paul was peddling? Do you not find it interesting that all you can imagine to offer to God is your sins, not your love or your obedience or your loyalty in what you said above??? Let me explain why you find yourself in this unfortunate situation.
      Paul in Acts 23:6 admits he is still very much a Pharisee, bringing the entire body of his doctrine under Christ’s warning in Matthew 16 to beware the doctrine of the Pharisees: a warning most Christians ignore to their own detriment. Christ also warns us that Pharisees like Paul make their converts twice the child of hell than themselves in Matthew 23:15. And this Pharisee Paul, after warning us in 2Cor 11 to not marvel that Satan’s ministers are transformed into ministers of righteousness in the very next chapter in 2Cor 12:7 admits to having a “messenger of Satan”. You would think more Christians would sit up and take notice of that before buying into Paul’s ideas of grace. Because Christ also warns us that Pharisees like Paul are of their father the devil in John 8:44, which leaves me wondering how a Pharisee like Paul with his messenger of Satan in 2Cor 12:7 is going to pass Christ’s qualifications of having righteousness greater than that of a Scribe and Pharisee which is required in order to enter the kingdom of God in Matthew 5:20-especially when Christ in Matthew 23:13 is rebuking the Scribes and Pharisees like Paul for not entering his kingdom and not suffering others to enter in???
      The moment Paul tried to lure people out from under God’s law to be under his grace alternative instead in Romans 6:14, Paul brought himself under the warning of God in Isaiah 8:20 where God says that anyone like Paul speaking not according to the law and testimony has no light in them. Because God binds up the testimony and seals his law among his disciples in Isaiah 8:16. So, Paul is trying to rob people of becoming God’s disciples by teaching them to join him in rejecting the very seal of God. This idea of binding up the testimony and being sealed by the law comes from Deuteronomy 6 where God urges people to bind the law to their right hand and forehead. This is to protect us from the problem arising in Revelation 14 under the Third Angel’s Message where people take instead the mark of the beast in their right hand and forehead. The question is which choice will we ultimately make here? Will we come under the protection of God’s law or will we abandon God’s law for the mark of the beast???

  • @anthonym.7653
    @anthonym.7653 7 місяців тому +7

    Thankfully, we have the letter to the Galatians to warn us of these heretical teachings.

    • @rightousliving
      @rightousliving 10 днів тому

      Maybe, but unfortunately we don’t have the letters of the other side. The Roman church was very good to destroy all evidence that contradicted their theology and only kept what agreed with them. Those who didn’t go along with their doctrines were expelled and called heretics. Later they burned them on the stake. That’s how the “orthodox” doctrines survived and were made popular.

  • @kellydorney3514
    @kellydorney3514 7 місяців тому +18

    Whether they admit it or not, they are taking Jesus down from the cross, little by little. It's a very dangerous and slippery slope. 😪✝

    • @kdslight
      @kdslight 7 місяців тому

      Yes. 💕

    • @JameyRocket
      @JameyRocket 7 місяців тому +2

      Explain? All I see is " those who abide in Him should walk even as He walked"
      I'm wondering are u walking as He walked? Seriously ask yourself. Or are you walking like man made traditions

    • @kimartist
      @kimartist 5 місяців тому

      @@JameyRocket Are you walking like an accuser of the saints? Because that's how the devil does it.

    • @JameyRocket
      @JameyRocket 5 місяців тому +2

      @@kimartist it's called guarding the commandments

  • @darciecoombs5050
    @darciecoombs5050 7 місяців тому +7

    I didn't see this coming. After 18 years of marriage my husband has become torah observant and is upset that I do not submit to his authority in this belief. I am numb after so many conversations. I love my husband but my soul is not comfortable at all with following all the 613 laws. I feel condemned daily by my spouse. Lord open the eyes of those falling for this heresy and show them grace and truth, bring peace to my soul as I try to be submissive.

    • @Gigi2four
      @Gigi2four 7 місяців тому +1

      I’ve had to learn compromise in a few things.

    • @kdslight
      @kdslight 7 місяців тому +2

      I will pray for you this morning. I’m watching families and friends divide and struggle around me-I’ve lost friends to it. How much deeper it is, when it’s a spouse. 💕

    • @darciecoombs5050
      @darciecoombs5050 7 місяців тому +2

      @kdslight Thank you. It is great comfort knowing I am not alone. I have watched your videos. I fear that if I give up my beliefs and follow my spouse, he will sink more and more into this movement.

    • @JustOneStitch
      @JustOneStitch 7 місяців тому +2

      This is all so hard to navigate and I'm thankful so many of us can come together in Scripture to work through the "how-tos." You are correct to not give up your beliefs. When and how to surrender our freedoms in the home, especially with children involved is messy. I am praying the Holy Spirit bring you clarity on how and what to do, even if just day by day for now.

    • @YAHAVAH7day8
      @YAHAVAH7day8 7 місяців тому +1

      @@darciecoombs5050 be patient with him. Torah is important as a stepping stone to truth, meant to be an everlasting spiritual ordinance, which should lead him back to Messiah; when he realizes the law cannot save him. Show him the story of pilgrims progress...it should help. Shabbat Shalom.

  • @jasonbaer6341
    @jasonbaer6341 2 місяці тому +5

    When I found out that the word Believe means "rest in", that changed everything! I literally thought the word Believe was an action word because of legalistic preachers!

    • @genestudniskisr2658
      @genestudniskisr2658 16 днів тому

      Recommend you look up Strong's greek 4100, it is the word Pisteuo that is often translated believe. I think you will find out that whoever told you that believe means to rest in was't being honest.

    • @rightousliving
      @rightousliving 14 днів тому

      That’s interesting but how did you find this out? To me believe is an action word because it means to trust God and do what he tells you to do. When you trust someone you just do what they tell you without wanting to know the exact reason why you should do something. So I guess in a way we’re ‘resting in’ them by just trusting them that everything will be ok.

  • @consolelivesmatter
    @consolelivesmatter 7 місяців тому +8

    For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast

  • @KACD4969
    @KACD4969 7 місяців тому +14

    When he called the gospel foolish, it reminded me of first Corinthians: For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate."

    • @ST52655
      @ST52655 7 місяців тому +1

      💯

    • @shannonedgar6781
      @shannonedgar6781 7 місяців тому +1

      Yes! This came to my mind as well

    • @MandMe91
      @MandMe91 6 місяців тому

      Were you people redeemed from the curse of the law that Paul is referring to in Galatians 3 when he said "Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law"?

    • @Gigi2four
      @Gigi2four 6 місяців тому

      @@MandMe91I dare say that no one alive today was born under the law., especially not gentiles

    • @MandMe91
      @MandMe91 6 місяців тому

      @@Gigi2four
      Then how are people today redeemed from the curse of the law?

  • @marksr49341
    @marksr49341 7 місяців тому +12

    Works (I believe) does not mean the fallowing of the 613 laws. It means the expressing the LOVE of God and each other that Christ taught through His life. On these hang all the laws and prophets. These are the works of faith.

    • @Animalsandwildlife.7527
      @Animalsandwildlife.7527 2 місяці тому +2

      Works is Love. Love is love your God with your whole heart and love your neighbors =10 commandments as taught by Jesus.

    • @genestudniskisr2658
      @genestudniskisr2658 16 днів тому

      If one believes the law Giver (Jesus) they will do what He says. There is about 170 of those laws that apply to most men.

    • @rightousliving
      @rightousliving 10 днів тому

      That’s true, but how do you show love for God and your neighbour unless by keeping the commandments?

    • @marksr49341
      @marksr49341 10 днів тому

      There are moral laws that were known before Moses, and that will always exist. Most of those 613 were to set Israel apart and to govern the country.

    • @rightousliving
      @rightousliving 10 днів тому

      @@marksr49341 yes, they are laws given to the nation of Israel. That’s why in the book of Acts at the Jerusalem council it was decided that believers in Jesus who are gentiles don’t need to be circumcised but are only bound by the Noahide laws that are given for all mankind.
      Yet Christians often take it further than that even trying to convince Jews in Israel that the law has been abolished. Yet even in the gospels of the New Testament Jesus made it very clear that he did not come to abolish the law but to fulfill it. Fulfilling the law was an obligation for all the Jews, it means to fully follow all commandments. It doesn’t mean to abolish it.
      In the book of Acts Paul goes out of his way to prove that he is not teaching apostasy from the law of Moses by undergoing a purification ritual together with other men which includes an animal sacrifice. He clearly still followed all the required Jewish laws which makes us question, is this the same Paul who wrote the letters saying the law has been abolished. Something clearly doesn’t add up here unless Paul was a deceiver who only pretended to keep the law of Moses.

  • @marcelom.s.6065
    @marcelom.s.6065 7 місяців тому +12

    He means swim in the lake of fire in Revelation 😭

  • @kimartist
    @kimartist 7 місяців тому +7

    "Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard! Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears."
    ~ Acts 20 : 30ff

    • @rightousliving
      @rightousliving 2 місяці тому

      Unfortunately this happened then and we still suffer the consequences of it. It's very difficult today to distinguish between truth and error because for nearly two thousand years the church participated in the destruction of all that which contradicted the orthodox faith, including exiling bishops, burning their writings and even using torture and burning them on the stake with the justification that they only were trying to save their souls from hell. It's time the church becomes honest about their doctrines that they are seriously flawed.

  • @mikhailmarvin2188
    @mikhailmarvin2188 7 місяців тому +13

    When I hear such claims (that salvation = grace + works), I immediately want to ask several questions:
    1) How many works, and which ones, do I have to do to earn my salvation? Please give me a list of them and the criteria for measuring them from the Bible. The only unambiguous and terrifying criterion I found is "Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect."
    2) What about a single failure/sin in my life, even after repentance? Does it count somehow, curse me, or what? What will be the mathematical formula of my accordance on the scales of the highest court in the end?
    3) What works were done by the thief on the cross to whom Jesus said, "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise"? Are these the same amount and type of works that should be done according to the answer to the first question? If yes, I can tell the list of works is quite short 😅. If no, it means Jesus lied to this man.

    • @AndreColon
      @AndreColon 7 місяців тому +1

      1) Which ones? Read the front of the book.. The way Jesus/Apostles/Paul tells others to do.
      2) Reflect and read Paul's letters to the Ephesians and Galatians, moreover 1 John and James
      3) If he was an Israelite is it possible he had a repentant heart - a contrite heart? He may have understood breaking the law and justice is how the world works. [all we can do is speculate]

    • @believer8091
      @believer8091 7 місяців тому

      You're saved when you repent and believe in Yahushua. Look up: Eliyah Ministries, Saved by a Faith that Works
      Proverbs 24:16 For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief.
      Ezekiel 18:24 But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.

    • @JameyRocket
      @JameyRocket 7 місяців тому +1

      MTOI never teaches this. Have any of you ever even listened to the teachings. Maybe you should.

    • @Animalsandwildlife.7527
      @Animalsandwildlife.7527 2 місяці тому

      Revelation 14:12 "This calls for endurance from the saints who keep God's commandments and their faith in Jesus. Faith without works is dead. Proper faith has works. Works here is LOVE. Love for God and love for our neighbors.

    • @rightousliving
      @rightousliving 2 місяці тому

      It's not difficult. When you sin, just repent. If you stole, do restitution as much as you can. If you sinned against your brother, go to him and apologise. The sinner on the cross was justified because he sincerely repented and it was demonstrated by him defending Jesus, which is a good work.

  • @joe1940
    @joe1940 7 місяців тому +10

    True faith naturally produces good works, but good works don't produce saving grace. That's what Jesus was talking about when he called the religious leaders of his day "Whitewashed tombs full of dead men's bones."

    • @ST52655
      @ST52655 7 місяців тому +1

      🎯

    • @rightousliving
      @rightousliving 2 місяці тому +1

      I agree with the first half of your statement that 'true faith naturally produces good works', however the second part is questionable. As James in his letter pointed out, Rahab, a prostitute, was saved by what she did. She wasn't a Israelite but she recognised that He had given the Israelites the land because of the stories she heard about the Exodus. Now she was not the only one who heard the stories because she said that they all heard about these stories and were terrified. What distinguished her from the others was that she had the opportunity to do a good work for the Israelites and did it. Her good works together with the opportunity given produced saving grace.

    • @genestudniskisr2658
      @genestudniskisr2658 16 днів тому +1

      Jesus also said that they make the Word of God to no effect, teaching their traditions of men. He also said if we break one of the least of the commandment, we will be least in the Kingdom.

    • @rightousliving
      @rightousliving 16 днів тому

      @@genestudniskisr2658 yes, exactly. Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees. Now it’s the clergy with their man made traditions.

    • @rightousliving
      @rightousliving 15 днів тому

      @@genestudniskisr2658 exactly, they make and still make the word of God of no effect teaching traditions of men like the orthodox doctrines of the trinity and virgin birth of Jesus. It’s high time the church repents and returns back to follow the Torah teaching all of it and not just picking out verses out of context that suits their own desires.
      However, we need to differentiate between Jews and Gentiles. The law applies to all men but not every law applies to every person. There are laws that only apply to priests, others only apply to Jews and still others that only apply to Gentiles, also called strangers. Noah was no Jew, nor was Abraham. They are said to have kept all of God’s laws and statutes. The law or Torah therefore existed even before Moses gave the law to the people of Israel.

  • @Gigi2four
    @Gigi2four 7 місяців тому +5

    The scary thing is not so much what he says (which is horrifying ) but the fact that the congregation doesn’t fact check him with an authorized version of the Bible. Total lack of discernment.

    • @jackieredding9019
      @jackieredding9019 6 місяців тому +1

      My brother follows Steve berkson and is told not to listen to any Christian pastor period.

    • @rightousliving
      @rightousliving 2 місяці тому

      The reality is that most Christians don't fact check the doctrines taught in their churches. Pastors don't usually encourage to fact check. Sometimes they might say to check your bible but I never heard of any pastor who tells their congregation to learn Hebrew or consult Rabbis who know Hebrew so they can really fact-check because they know that once you do this you will become a problem for them.

    • @michaelmacias8
      @michaelmacias8 Місяць тому

      because what hes saying to true. and that bible is the best version you should get one.

  • @2talon1
    @2talon1 4 місяці тому +4

    Wow. This is incredibly helpful to walk through this teaching with you as a Berean would. I am so grateful for your faithfulness to the whole message of the scripture.
    I've been facing a similar teaching on a channel called "Jesus Words Only" and honestly believe that the Lord brought your material to my attention to further equip me for the defense of the hope that we have - with gentleness and respect.
    I thank the Lord for you brother!

  • @NLASMINISTRY
    @NLASMINISTRY 7 місяців тому +5

    This is the same as Roman Catholicism, muslim, Jehova witness, mormanism,and every other religion in the world.

    • @cynthiahunter2570
      @cynthiahunter2570 7 місяців тому

      Absolutely true.

    • @leonaperdue8784
      @leonaperdue8784 6 місяців тому +1

      Yes, that’s what I think as well.

    • @ebonytucker564
      @ebonytucker564 2 місяці тому

      Not sure if other faiths spend significant time putting down other faiths. More important is to exalt the God of the Faith...

    • @waynehobbs5175
      @waynehobbs5175 2 місяці тому

      The cults mentioned are not following Jesus Christ. They teach a false gospel of works. Add SDA to the list.

  • @HarryHafsak
    @HarryHafsak Місяць тому +2

    Faith will make you do works. They go hand in hand. Grace comes first.

  • @jackieredding9019
    @jackieredding9019 7 місяців тому +6

    Thank you so much!! This is very personal to me..
    .

  • @513Sherry
    @513Sherry 7 місяців тому +7

    The thief on the cross had no works. He asked YESHUA to remember him. He believed in Yeshua

    • @tbishop4961
      @tbishop4961 7 місяців тому

      There was no thief on a cross. Where do people get this nonsense?🤦‍♂️

    • @513Sherry
      @513Sherry 7 місяців тому

      @tbishop4961 the criminal that was crucified beside YESHUA. Thankful for His mercy. YESHUA alone is my hope Read Chapter 3 in Gospel of John We all need mercy. God Bless

    • @tbishop4961
      @tbishop4961 7 місяців тому

      @@513Sherry he wasn't a thief. The bible doesn't say that, nor was theft an offense you could be crucified for. Crucifixion was reserved for acts of treason or insurrection
      If you could get something this basic wrong, is it possible you've gotten other more important things wrong?

    • @513Sherry
      @513Sherry 7 місяців тому +1

      @@tbishop4961 I stand corrected your right. I need to be on point. We all do. Spirit and Truth

    • @tbishop4961
      @tbishop4961 7 місяців тому

      @@513Sherry it's easy to adopt an idea that has been dropped in our laps by others without checking details
      If you build on sand, you could be disappointed when the storms come. But if you build on a rock, your house will stand

  • @Array8
    @Array8 6 місяців тому +3

    36:10 "Go into the lake" hahaha Solberg is so heaven bound he doesnt even remember the lake of fire hahaha much love

  • @AslanRising
    @AslanRising 7 місяців тому +3

    He keeps saying that the idea that salvation is by grace, and not works, is foolish. 1 Corinthians 1:23 says (NASB 95), "but we preach Christ crucified, to Jews a stumbling block and to Gentiles foolishness,". This passage is fulfilled in Mr. Berkson.

    • @genestudniskisr2658
      @genestudniskisr2658 16 днів тому

      Is Paul in your eyes foolish because he tells us in Romans 3:31 to establish the Law.

  • @AgeOfInterpretations
    @AgeOfInterpretations Місяць тому

    Hey professor, or anyone... id like to ask Romans 4:4+5 are they not talking about someone who has a job? and one who has wages is obligated to be charitable... whilst the non worker is still credited?
    i notice the words are different in 4+5 compared to works in 4:6 whilst on strongs concordance. One being more 'labor/tradesman/ i work' usage (ERGAZOMAI), and the 4:6 being a more plain 'work,task,deed,' usage (ERGON).. any input from greek speakers?
    is this interpretation im having wrong?

    • @TheBiblicalRoots
      @TheBiblicalRoots  Місяць тому +1

      Hi, AOI! In Romans 4:1-12, Paul is talking about Abraham being justified by faith. That is the context for verses 4-5. He's using an example from life-namely, how a wage earned by a worker is not a "gift" but instead is money they _earned_ by working for it-to explain that if believers had to work to _earn_ their justification, it would no longer be a gift. Instead, Paul says, we are declared righteous (justified) based on faith, not works.
      Blessings, RLS

  • @judemichaelvelez6789
    @judemichaelvelez6789 Місяць тому +1

    Arrogance and condesention has reach the heavens and God will judge these heretics. I pray His mercy and grace endures forever.

  • @NLASMINISTRY
    @NLASMINISTRY 7 місяців тому +4

    Either Jesus did it all or He did nothing.

    • @tonecards7995
      @tonecards7995 7 місяців тому

      Did what? And what’s your response to what he did?

    • @NLASMINISTRY
      @NLASMINISTRY 7 місяців тому +1

      @@tonecards7995 paid for all my sins and yours.

  • @aposkaris2993
    @aposkaris2993 7 місяців тому +2

    Thanks for the abundance of scriptures you used!

  • @cahira8208
    @cahira8208 7 місяців тому +6

    I used to listen to mtoi a lot. I heard him say, "Why are you searching for other rabbis, I should be enough." That was it for me.
    I listen to several studies, just as with all "religions" there is truth and there are lies. It is our job to discern the truth from lies.
    I don't push people to be torah observant, but I try my hardest to observe the commands of my father. Just as Messiah did. I WORK at it (where as it was easy for him, I am speculating). Messiah was the most precious gift of all time. When I fail misrably and fall short, the almightys gift of grace (through the sacrifice of his son) saves me.

    • @6969smurfy
      @6969smurfy 5 місяців тому +2

      I stopped watching Steve awhile back also, for the sane reason..
      Shabbat Shalom Brother!

  • @marksr49341
    @marksr49341 7 місяців тому +2

    Well you're minutes in and I can't understand anything he is trying say.

    • @ebonytucker564
      @ebonytucker564 2 місяці тому +2

      Yes...the confusion is real.
      1 Corinthians 14:33
      King James Version
      33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

  • @kimartist
    @kimartist 7 місяців тому +1

    "And constant friction between people of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain."
    ~ 1 Timothy 6 : 5

  • @EM-vb8gx
    @EM-vb8gx 27 днів тому

    James 2 :14 Is the same meaning in every translation. What translation do you use?

  • @TheGreaser9273
    @TheGreaser9273 7 місяців тому +4

    What happens to a person who believes in Christ and doesn't obey Christ? According to James he will not be saved for he is just like a demon. To be obedient to Christ YOU have to do something. Unfortunately modern theology has ruined biblical terminology, so today we experience in churches false dichotomies through vague and ambiguous terms. The fact is you don't 'work' for salvation but you do work for your faith. You can't do 'nothing' and be obedient to Christ and receive the free gift of salvation. According to James, Abraham's actions perfected his faith. "You see a man is justified by his deeds (of faith) and not by faith alone." James 2:24

    • @antonkoivisto2999
      @antonkoivisto2999 7 місяців тому +3

      James is talking to already saved Christians about the faith of the believers to be useful to others. Help the less fortunate etc. It's not about salvation.
      Romans 4:5 should be enough for this. But it never is.

    • @antonkoivisto2999
      @antonkoivisto2999 7 місяців тому +1

      m.ua-cam.com/video/usCuIboBxgI/v-deo.html&pp=ygUVamFtZXMgMiAxNC0yNiBvbm9yYXRv

    • @kimartist
      @kimartist 7 місяців тому

      ​@@antonkoivisto2999 AMEN. It's the failure to distinguish between "works of the law" (which Paul discussed at length using that exact phrase) & works of faith (which James discussed in his letter; not the exact phrase but obviously the concept).

    • @TheGreaser9273
      @TheGreaser9273 7 місяців тому

      So you think a person can believe in Christ and not obey his commands and be saved?@@antonkoivisto2999

    • @TheGreaser9273
      @TheGreaser9273 7 місяців тому

      You're absolutely right! Paul uses that phrase as a point of distinction, because he knows that there are works of faith that bring about a justifying faith and reward - as James points out. This video is a perfect example of an overreaction to a person trying to synthesis James teachings to Paul teachings. I don't think the rabbi's teaching is very clear, but I understand what he is trying to do. @@kimartist

  • @bennett423
    @bennett423 7 місяців тому +2

    Hello Mr. Solberg, I pray you are well...
    I enjoy your videos. And I have to admit that I was decieved into the Hebrew Roots doctrine nearly 10 years ago. I no longer share these viewpoints as of around two years ago.
    Since well before I entered the doctrine of Hebrew Roots/Messianics congregations I have felt a calling on my life to teach and share the message of truth. And in late 2018, my family and I relocated to Cleveland, TN under the impression (that he gives) that this man would train me to become the teacher that I "thought" I needed to be. We spent one year with this congregation, and it was one of the worst years of my family's journey to grow closer to God. I don't like to degrade people, nor personally attack anyone, so I will not be saying too much more about his character or his personal issues. But I can and will say that he teaches so many things that are contrary to the way Yeshua would have us to live our lives and treat others.
    While I take issue with some of the things that you teach as well, I highly respect your approach and humility. I also appreciate the fact that you leave your comment section open for opposing views that we may (as you called it) be bereans. I too welcome all opposing doctrine as thisvis the only way we truly get to the bottom of what the truth really is.
    Now, I do teach others about the word of God, but I am not yet a UA-cam video maker, "so to speak" that I can make rebuttal videos against any doctrines I encounter.
    But maybe one day I will be able to send you a link to my rebuttal video to your teachings that we may have a meaningful discussion. 🙂
    But for now....
    May God bless you on your quest for the truth!

    • @TheBiblicalRoots
      @TheBiblicalRoots  7 місяців тому +1

      Thank you for sharing your experience and your thoughtful comments, watchman.
      Blessings! Rob

    • @ebonytucker564
      @ebonytucker564 2 місяці тому +1

      I appreciate your testimony that you got out and it is encouraging to my faith in Yah to keep His Word and deliver His people from the wicked hands... Amen

  • @flyguymt
    @flyguymt 7 місяців тому +4

    Great passage. You are like a Berean. I just posted it so no surprise on nothing yet. They will come up with something, but then we just open the Scriptures to find the truth again. I sure don’t understand it all, but i trust the whole counsel of YHWH to bring me home. Shalom 🕎✝️

    • @dmoffitt1914
      @dmoffitt1914 7 місяців тому +1

      I feel you I have a small dissertation with time stamps i'm waiting on a reply for. People get so stuck on Paul letter to their own destruction like Peter warned. If He'd just add another witness like it is commanded in Deuteronomy and even by Paul in 1 Corinthians it would help correct this misunderstanding of scripture.

  • @user-rg1ms6sj2k
    @user-rg1ms6sj2k 7 місяців тому +1

    I wonder if it is this issue that is one of the most difficult lines of distinction to explain. Studying these out due to this channel has been a blessing for myself.
    I have grown in my appreciation of the challenge Paul faced explaining this to those of Jewish backgrounds.
    Some churches elevate the law (10 commandments) so high, that the proper place of our works were blended into God’s grace.
    So that you were saved by God’s grace (power) that enabled you to keep the law. As grace of forgiveness was secondary to using the grace (read power) to overcome sin in one’s life.

    • @lionbehavior9841
      @lionbehavior9841 7 місяців тому

      What does Jesus have to say about how we obtain eternal life? Matthew 19:16-17 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
      Our Lord and savior, King of the Jews tells us in order to obtain eternal life we must keep the commandments. This seems quite easy to understand. Keep the commandments and live. 2 Peter 3:15-16 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given given unto him hath written unto you. 17 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
      We all have work to do in order to obtain eternal life. It is after all, by our works that we will be judged. Revelation 20:11-12 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
      This is very serious business and we must seek the truth for ourselves and get the proper understanding because it will determine whether we spend eternity in the kingdom of heaven or in the lake of fire. Open up the book and read my friend, and I pray that you find the truth, this goes for me as well. Glory to God.

    • @user-rg1ms6sj2k
      @user-rg1ms6sj2k 7 місяців тому

      @@lionbehavior9841
      Thank you for the detailed and informative response. What you documented and the logic I was reading sounds similar to what I grew up in.
      I felt RL Solberg did an excellent study explaining how justification is described. To say it another way, is our justification is based on our trust in God and confession of Him openly (repentance)…. And that is what saves.
      Our sanctification is based on Christ as well. However, it isn’t anything that merits toward our salvation.
      It is us placing ourselves in Christ and He changing us …. all out of our love for God.
      That is how I understand it at this point but the light RL Solberg has provided I find far simpler and easier to understand than the teaching of sanctification being included with justification.

    • @graftme3168
      @graftme3168 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@lionbehavior9841I think Jesus' teachings were another way of showing us that we can't live up to the commandments. The Jews thought they were living up to the standards of the law, but Jesus pointed out that even their thoughts and intentions were evil, in spite of their works. Our righteousness must exceed that of the law! How is this possible when nobody could keep the law?! By receiving the gift of righteousness by faith! The righteousness of Christ, not our own.
      Remember Satan standing next to Joshua and pointing out how unclean he was? God did not say Satan was wrong! But, He clothed Joshua in a robe of His own righteousness! That is the grace of God. By faith in the righteousness of Christ, we receive His robe of righteousness.

  • @tbishop4961
    @tbishop4961 7 місяців тому +3

    Yikes. If i were going to pretend that some work was connected to spiritual salvation, wearing a fringe or avoiding pork wouldn't get mentioned 😂. That's the easy stuff

  • @radicallyrescued
    @radicallyrescued 6 місяців тому +2

    Yes .. saved by Grace .. and because we are now saved .. we are filled with the Holy Set Apart Spirit.. to bring forth good fruit .. great works of Light to bring Glory to Our Yah Father and His son, Yahusha .. ❤

  • @kdslight
    @kdslight 7 місяців тому +2

    The Scriptures are what my group used just before I left. They still use it. The Palestinian Targums was also a book used. I own it, but have not read more than the first few pages.

    • @MandMe91
      @MandMe91 6 місяців тому

      You're not an old covenant Israelite.
      You were never under the law or its curse.
      You are not redeemed from the curse of the law.
      You're welcome.

  • @genestudniskisr2658
    @genestudniskisr2658 18 днів тому +2

    If I understand you correctly, you don't seem to believe the Words that came out of the mouth of Yeshua (Jesus) Yeshua said He didn't come to do away with the Law, is the true or false? In fact, after that in Matthew 5:19 He says "Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." Did Jesus tell the truth here? Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. Matthew 7:23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.’ Are you saying Jesus lies? how about John 14:15 “If you love Me, you will keep My commandments. James 2:14-17 What use is it, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but he has no works? Can that faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is without clothing and in need of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and be filled,” and yet you do not give them what is necessary for their body, what use is that? 17 Even so faith, if it has no works, is dead, being by itself. Romans 2:13 "for it is not the hearers of the Law who are just before God, but the doers of the Law will be justified." If all these verses found in the Bible are true, then Berkson is not the one that looks ands sounds like the false prophet here.

  • @freddyphillips1810
    @freddyphillips1810 7 місяців тому +3

    Wow. When he said “just go in the lake”…. That was heartless.

    • @toddott633
      @toddott633 7 місяців тому +1

      Yes, because there is no love. Love is a fruit of the Spirit, not of the law.

    • @freddyphillips1810
      @freddyphillips1810 7 місяців тому +1

      @@toddott633 yeah. No love at all. We’re supposed to walk the commandments in love.

    • @ebonytucker564
      @ebonytucker564 2 місяці тому

      Ive visited and listened to his teachings. SPIRIT is grieved by the hatred in his heart, control, meanness, narcissistic, condescending...it doesnt stop. My daughter will defer to his counsel over that of the Lord Himself. She shall be free according to Proverbs 11:21
      21 Though hand join in hand, the wicked shall not be unpunished: but the seed of the righteous shall be delivered.

  • @biltontruth
    @biltontruth 7 місяців тому +1

    Rob, the lake comments seemed to be making light of the lake of fire.
    Great video once again, heart breaking to hear and know what these lies are doing to people.

  • @judemichaelvelez6789
    @judemichaelvelez6789 Місяць тому

    Its getting clearer Dr. Solberg....thats why you need to continue doing what u r doing...not of your own strenght but thru Him who saves, our Lord Jesus Christ.

  • @mikhailmarvin2188
    @mikhailmarvin2188 7 місяців тому +2

    Thank you so much for your work!

    • @TheBiblicalRoots
      @TheBiblicalRoots  7 місяців тому +2

      Thank you so much for your kind words and your support, Mikhail.
      Blessings! Rob

  • @stephhay3691
    @stephhay3691 7 місяців тому +6

    You did such a wonderful job of addressing his teaching in a kind way. Thanks for sharing. When I first heard Steve's teaching, I felt very disturbed and troubled. So then trying to understand where he was coming from, I did some searching on his background and what I found was quite unsettling, including past involvments and statements he has made about Jesus. We really need to be prayerful and show love, grace, and humility for people in this movement as well as many other fringe cults that are attracting believers these days as none of us are exempt from deception creeping in. I appreciate that you mentioned how important it is to have accountability and community when undertanding God's word. 💯 Isolation can be a slippery slope. I was raised in a few different "fringe beliefs" myself and now that I'm in my 30s, I've started seeing the patterns and common denominators that all these fringe beliefs or cults have in common. Its important to be aware of the warning signs I think.. And for those who have family or friends going down the road of unbiblical doctrine, my heart goes out to you. Its tough to watch. Praying for grace and truth to prevail!
    Blessings!

  • @judemichaelvelez6789
    @judemichaelvelez6789 Місяць тому

    I bless God for your ministry Dr. Solberg. Pray u will never stop delivering these gems. Know its hard and difficult BUT never stop. Let it be burn and survive the fire of God for your rewards in the end. I am from the Philippines and Gods is working in the trenches for many are truly being revived and renewed. Shalom.

  • @musicinspire1745
    @musicinspire1745 7 місяців тому +5

    If those people in that audience KNEW the Bible and it's teachings, then they would have walked out of there, knocking the dust off their feet at the door, never to return to that wicked organization and its false teachers!

    • @dmoffitt1914
      @dmoffitt1914 7 місяців тому

      They are there because it more true, Most people claiming to be Christians are followers of a twisting of Paul, not Christ. This is why without Paul's letters Christianity can't support their belief system.

    • @musicinspire1745
      @musicinspire1745 7 місяців тому +4

      @@dmoffitt1914 Can you explain, then why the council of apostles in Jerusalem ENDORSED Paul, if he is one who is guilty of twisting the truth? Are you saying that the apostles were deaf to the voice of Yah to have allegedly warned them against endorsing Paul as a legitimate apostle!
      Hebrew Roots theology is warped and corrupt to the core, lacking any explanations for their disregard for Paul!

    • @dmoffitt1914
      @dmoffitt1914 7 місяців тому +1

      @@musicinspire1745 I'm not saying Paul is wrong. I'm saying people who read Paul's letters are wrong. The council at Jerusalem did check Paul. That's why they made him do a Nazarite sacrifice.
      We see the admonishing and Acts 21 starting at around 19.
      We also see it concerning the circumcision argument where James orders gentiles to learn at the synagogues where they would learn the law of God.
      The twisting comes from gentiles understanding of a Jewish religion and mixing their old religion and cultures to the Bible

    • @musicinspire1745
      @musicinspire1745 7 місяців тому +1

      @@dmoffitt1914 I'm not sure where you got your interpretation, but this is what is written:
      Acts 21:24-25
      24 "Take them and be purified with them, and pay their expenses so that they may shave [their] heads, and that all may know that those things of which they were informed concerning you are nothing, but [that] you yourself also walk orderly and keep the law.
      25 "But concerning the Gentiles who believe, we have written [and] decided that they should observe no such thing, except that they should keep themselves from [things] offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality."
      See that? It was decided that the GENTILES who believe, "...they should observe no such thing..."
      You also seemed to have missed where it also says, "...and that all may know that those things of which they were informed concerning you are nothing..."
      Now, where did you see Paul or any other true believer offering up blood sacrifices?

    • @dmoffitt1914
      @dmoffitt1914 7 місяців тому

      @@musicinspire1745 remember I said start at around 19 for context
      ‭Acts‬ ‭21:20‭-‬24‬ ‭KJV‬
      [20] And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law: [21] and they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs. [22] What is it therefore? the multitude must needs come together: for they will hear that thou art come. [23] Do therefore this that we say to thee: We have four men which have a vow on them; [24] them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law.
      Because you don't know the law, You're left in a dark about what's going on. Please read numbers 6. Paul is performing what is done starting at verse 13. They have to make a sacrifice prior to shaving their head.

  • @nicholaskeathley5887
    @nicholaskeathley5887 7 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for the video. Can you go through The Pentateuch as Narrative: A Biblical-theological Commentary by John Sailhamer?

  • @brettdobbs2041
    @brettdobbs2041 7 місяців тому +1

    When he said lake, he was referring to the lake of fire, which is why swimming trunks made of asbestos which would be fire proof, wouldn’t help you there.

  • @cynthiahunter2570
    @cynthiahunter2570 7 місяців тому +6

    The work we are to do is the obedience of faith. So those who say we are to be obedient must understand that the obedience that God wants is faith in Christ. John 6:28-29 Then they said to him, “What must we do, to be doing the works of God?” Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.” This is The Work we will be judged on ~ our obedience of faith in Christ. This was a great video.

    • @2believeis2trustandobey
      @2believeis2trustandobey 7 місяців тому

      after belief we must grow and mature to the stature of Messiah, working out our salvation...we shouldn't just stop at faith in Christ. We are required to be doers.

    • @cynthiahunter2570
      @cynthiahunter2570 7 місяців тому +2

      @@2believeis2trustandobey
      Do you disagree with what Christ said? That the work of God is to believe on him? Of course we are to work out our salvation, but that just means live the Christian life; that does not mean work to obtain or maintain righteousness with God.

    • @kimartist
      @kimartist 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@2believeis2trustandobey "The blind receive sight, the lame walk, those who have leprosy are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, and the good news is proclaimed to the poor."
      ~ Matthew 11 : 5

    • @2believeis2trustandobey
      @2believeis2trustandobey 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@cynthiahunter2570 I do agree. Our righteousness is only through Messiah. What it means to live the christian life is another conversation.

    • @cynthiahunter2570
      @cynthiahunter2570 6 місяців тому +1

      @@2believeis2trustandobey
      Yes, out of love and gratitude we serve and obey the Law of Christ. What do you mean by “required?”

  • @jsam1997
    @jsam1997 7 місяців тому +1

    The very definition of grace shows that salvation is free in and of itself. Grace translates to the Greek word CHARIS which means "unmeritted favor." This is why Paul says in ephesians "for by grace you have been saved (past tense) through faith and NOT OF YOURSELVES, it is a gift of God. Not of works so that no one may boast." This is also why in John's gospel (the one actually written to save the lost; see john 21:30-31) he gives the sole criteria to be saved which is to believe. This is also why Paul tells the church of Rome the difference between grace and works in Romans 11:7 "For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more."And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work." Believe the gospel performed on your behalf (the death, burial and resurrection) and recieve eternal life today. Jesus died to pay the penalty for your sin which is death. If he already payed your debt then there is only one place to go.

  • @billyhw5492
    @billyhw5492 7 місяців тому +2

    Where does Scripture say that Scripture is our ultimate authority, professor? Have you ever tested this teaching?

    • @ST52655
      @ST52655 7 місяців тому

      The heavens declare the glory of God, but Scripture declares His glory and His Words. The Bible attests to its own authority to rule creation by declaring itself the divine Word of God (Psalm 19:1; 2 Timothy 3:16; 2 Peter 1:21).

    • @TheBiblicalRoots
      @TheBiblicalRoots  7 місяців тому +3

      I love it, Billy! Great question. If we believe in Jesus, the only place we find His story and His words is in the NT. And the NT says, "All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work" (2 Tim. 3:16-17)
      "Scripture" to Jesus and the NT authors almost always refers to what we call the OT. (The one exception is 2 Peter 3:16, where Paul's letters are referred to as Scripture.) So if we believe in Jesus, we have to accept the authority of the OT. Jesus accepted, endorsed, and taught from Scripture many times. For example, "Then he said to them, 'These are my words that I spoke to you while I was still with you, that everything written about me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled.' Then he opened their minds to understand the Scriptures" (Luke 24:44-45)
      So if any person teaches something that contradicts Scripture, I have to side with Scripture on that issue. It is of higher authority than the opinion of any man.
      Blessings, Rob

    • @billyhw5492
      @billyhw5492 7 місяців тому

      Prof Solberg, yes, scripture is profitable, everyone is agreed on that. Now please harness all your PhD powers and tell me where scripture says that it is our ultimate authority? @@TheBiblicalRoots

    • @tbishop4961
      @tbishop4961 7 місяців тому

      The quran claims it is true authority. It's written right there in the book. I'm not sure what to believe now. They both have such fancy print

    • @elliot7205
      @elliot7205 7 місяців тому

      ​@@TheBiblicalRootsapostolic teachings from the father's that were taken from the apostles are not found within the bible can equally be authoritive.

  • @houstonhardead1960
    @houstonhardead1960 7 місяців тому +35

    My family was torn apart by this man's teaching. I fought with all my heart to save my wife and children from this teaching. In the end a 23 year marriage was destroyed and my children were taken away from me. There are many broken families in this congregation. The teaching is that you can get a divorce for any reason. Thank you for this video.

    • @narrowway4626
      @narrowway4626 7 місяців тому +8

      I am so sorry. The real merciful Saviour will heal your heart and I am praying for your wife and children to come to the knowledge of the truth!

    • @houstonhardead1960
      @houstonhardead1960 7 місяців тому

      ​@@narrowway4626thank you so much. I never was under His teaching only my wife and kids. I now have my two younger children living with me. I praise God that he allowed my children to come back. I still pray for my ex wife and my oldest daughter to see the truth

    • @jackieredding9019
      @jackieredding9019 7 місяців тому +4

      Mine also

    • @kellydorney3514
      @kellydorney3514 7 місяців тому +4

      Ours as well 😪

    • @TheBiblicalRoots
      @TheBiblicalRoots  7 місяців тому +13

      That is heartbreaking. I'm so sorry to hear that! Thank you for sharing your story. Sadly, it's far from the first time I've heard about families being torn apart by this terrible theology. May God bless you and bring you peace.
      Shalom, Rob

  • @Charlie-kit
    @Charlie-kit 3 місяці тому +1

    Faith is all you need

  • @musicinspire1745
    @musicinspire1745 7 місяців тому +5

    Oh, my. The swelling of pride in the hearts of that so-called "rabbi's" hearers in that place must have been experiencing every time they hear his wicked and evil messages of legalistic works, it is indeed grievous! Judaisers are indeed alive and well among us today!

    • @dmoffitt1914
      @dmoffitt1914 7 місяців тому

      1 JOHN 5: 2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and obey his commandments. 3For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome.
      2. MATTHEW 5: 17Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
      There are just to many scripture from too many prophets Faith requires works. Hebrew 11 List all the examples of faith with works

    • @musicinspire1745
      @musicinspire1745 7 місяців тому +1

      @@dmoffitt1914 The problem for YOU is in your assumption that the commandments of which John wrote was the Mosaic Law. You really need to get a grip on what Jesus actually taught about the Mosaic Law!

    • @dmoffitt1914
      @dmoffitt1914 7 місяців тому

      @@musicinspire1745 because it is, it's easy to prove Romans is the best place to prove it.
      ‭Romans‬ ‭7:7‬ ‭
      [7] What shall we say then? Is the Law sin? May it never be! On the contrary, I would not have come to know sin except through the Law; for I would not have known about coveting if the Law had not said, “You shall not covet.”
      ‭1 John‬ ‭3:4‬ ‭
      [4] Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
      ‭Isaiah‬ ‭8:20‬ ‭
      [20] To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
      ‭Matthew‬ ‭23:1‭-‬3‬ ‭
      [1] Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, [2] saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: [3] all therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

    • @kimartist
      @kimartist 7 місяців тому +3

      ​@@dmoffitt1914 "Scripture has locked up everything under the control of sin, so that what was promised, being given through faith in Jesus Christ, might be given to those who believe. Before the coming of this faith, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed. So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian."
      ~ Galatians 3 : 22ff

    • @dmoffitt1914
      @dmoffitt1914 7 місяців тому

      @@kimartist ‭James‬ ‭2:7‭-‬20‬
      [7] Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called? [8] If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: [9] but if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. [10] For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. [11] For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. [12] So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. [13] For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment. [14] What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? [15] If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, [16] and one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? [17] Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. [18] Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. [19] Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. [20] But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

  • @planetruth1013
    @planetruth1013 7 місяців тому +2

    Total heretic and he's dragging more souls to hell with him.

  • @YAHAVAH7day8
    @YAHAVAH7day8 7 місяців тому +2

    We can't be lawless christians continuing to work sinful lives nor can we be loveless pharasees pursuing legalism...if we could marry the two...we would find the common ground. Torah is important as an everlasting spiritual ordinance which Messiah is the finisher of. He did not come to do away with the law but to fulfill. Those who teach and do the law will be called the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. Paul says??.. how about what Messiah says... Peter warned that many would distort Paul's letters, which were hard to understand, to their own deception? Messiah kept Torah, observed all the Holy Days, set requirements in his commandments... As a relationship...we should be practicing Torah.

    • @TheBiblicalRoots
      @TheBiblicalRoots  7 місяців тому +2

      Well said, Michael! "We can't be lawless Christians continuing to work sinful lives nor can we be loveless Pharisees pursuing legalism." I agree. I teach and believe that obedience is God’s “love language.” Jesus said, “If you love me, you will keep my commandments” (John 14:15). And I'm sure you would agree that not every command that God has given applies to every person at all times. Some of His commands only apply to certain people (i.e., men, women, parents, Levitical priests) or for certain times (i.e., building an ark, gathering manna, while in exile). And I'm sure you would also agree that we are each only expected to keep the commands of God that apply to us. The NT teaches that the ceremonial commands given under the Law of the Sinai Covenant do not apply to Christians today. (ex. Repeated blood sacrifices for sin are no longer required (Heb 10:18).) We still serve God and obey His commands, “But now we are released from the law, having died with Christ to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code” (Rom 7:6).
      Blessings, Rob

  • @EddieMcDonnell-ho1hr
    @EddieMcDonnell-ho1hr 2 місяці тому +1

    The lake is the lake of fire. His view is if you don't want to do the works then you might as well just jump in the lake. God bless, Brother Solberg for the lessons and help in explanations you do.

  • @jasonwhite646
    @jasonwhite646 7 місяців тому +4

    Brother R.L.. he may not be all wrong. Perhaps you forgot. Galations 6:8 For he who sows to his own flesh (lower nature, sensuality) will from the flesh reap decay and ruin and destruction, but he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.

    • @edwinrohweller
      @edwinrohweller 3 місяці тому

      Yes but you cannot sow in the Spirit if you are still sowing from the flesh. Galatians is all about the difference.

    • @jasonwhite646
      @jasonwhite646 3 місяці тому

      Exactly Ed. That's why I brought up Galations.

    • @edwinrohweller
      @edwinrohweller 3 місяці тому

      @@jasonwhite646 oh I see. You've defined flesh incorrectly or at least incompletely. Flesh is striving for self righteousness. This is our lowest nature or pride.

    • @jasonwhite646
      @jasonwhite646 3 місяці тому

      Ok. I love this dialog. Thank you! To be clear.
      I don't think that flesh only is defined by self righteousness. That's not biblical. Galations 5:19-21. Acts of the flesh are also overt sins.
      Grace is not just about our forgiveness of past, present and future sins (as in sinning- verb-action of iniquity. )
      But grace also includes our flesh dying to sin so that sin may no longer be our master. We died with Christ! Grace not only gives us a right standing before God, but also gives us victory over sins power.
      Some do not teach Grace this way and teach it more as a license. That's concerning.
      We should reckon our 'wretched ' flesh dead with Christ daily as Paul did. Come into agreement with God, that it must die so Christ may live through us. Fair enough explanation brother?

    • @jasonwhite646
      @jasonwhite646 3 місяці тому

      A believer reckoning himself dead with Christ daily is not a self-righteous act - to be clear. But its agreeing with God by faith. That's the power of the body of Christ, not just the blood. Blessings.

  • @marksr49341
    @marksr49341 7 місяців тому +1

    Yes, Christ will do all the things that we cannot. Which is "fulfil the law" NO ONE but Christ was without sin. It is not believing He is the messiah. It is believing that through faith in Him and His sacrifice that we receive grace. Faith is NOT the same as simply knowing something.

  • @johnknight3529
    @johnknight3529 7 місяців тому +1

    Is work done for the benefit of oneself not of a different nature than work done for the benefit of another/others? It seems to me even non-believers can grasp the distinction, (and I don't doubt garner favor with God when such work for other is done earnestly). This man is apparently thinking one can mix the two without God noticing . . (Me no think so ; )

  • @tylerfisher2371
    @tylerfisher2371 7 місяців тому +1

    I wonder how the rabbi considers Abraham’s lack of work involved when God puts him to sleep before the covenant was done in Genesis 15.

    • @dmoffitt1914
      @dmoffitt1914 7 місяців тому

      All of the obedience he did prior to getting that covenant reward. Lol, See Hebrews 11 and James 2

  • @93556108
    @93556108 7 місяців тому

    Mr. Solberg, I'm an avid follower of your teachings but at the mark of 8:45mins, you quoted the verses as1Timothy4:3-4 which should actually be 2Timothy4:3-4. Just a slight oversight here and nothing serious. Thank you

    • @TheBiblicalRoots
      @TheBiblicalRoots  7 місяців тому

      Good catch! That's my mistake. Thank you, Tan!
      Rob

    • @93556108
      @93556108 7 місяців тому

      @@TheBiblicalRoots doesn't matter just keep up your good work. Thank you for your great effort.

  • @joeyz5577
    @joeyz5577 7 місяців тому +4

    Thank you for this I too was almost lulled into his videos while searching for more info on the Torah

  • @JVTRUTH
    @JVTRUTH 7 місяців тому +1

    So is he saying that if Jesus never died, we couldn't be saved no matter how good we were?
    I have a friend that is getting into some of this type of stuff with her husband and im not sure how to even approach it.

    • @TheBiblicalRoots
      @TheBiblicalRoots  7 місяців тому +4

      Yeah, he's teaching that because Jesus died, He made salvation available. If He never died, we couldn't be saved no matter what. So that idea, on its own, is biblical. Where he gets into trouble is when he starts teaching how we "earn" the salvation that Jesus made available.
      RL

    • @JVTRUTH
      @JVTRUTH 7 місяців тому +1

      @@TheBiblicalRoots Thank you for that feedback. I recently subscribed to this channel and I have to say it's been a blessing. I pray I can learn from this teaching to help others.

    • @ebonytucker564
      @ebonytucker564 2 місяці тому

      We tried and had to leave. Jesus is the only way! Observing Torah is just that...observe the law as a structure for Gods teaching His people before He sent HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON. We had to leave and prayed for them because it opens the door to ANTICHRIST. Yeshua is not taught to be the ONLY WAY anymore. Pray for them. Im praying for my daughter to come from under this Man and I trust God to deliver her and all those who belong to Him.
      Amen

  • @bthongni55
    @bthongni55 7 місяців тому +3

    How was Noah, his family and pairs of animals saved from the flood? Will our faith or works be judged at the last Judgement?

    • @dmoffitt1914
      @dmoffitt1914 7 місяців тому

      Wasn't Noah building the ark, and gathering the animals proof of his Faith

    • @boltingpuppies
      @boltingpuppies 7 місяців тому +1

      @@dmoffitt1914 Yes, Noah's 'work' of building the ark was proof/evidence of his faith/belief/trust in God. I think that is what bthongni55 is saying too. We are told to make sure we are 'in the faith'. We do this by making sure we are in obedience to God's commands.

    • @kimartist
      @kimartist 7 місяців тому

      "By faith Noah, when warned about things not yet seen, in holy fear built an ark to save his family. By his faith he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness that is in keeping with faith."
      ~ Hebrews 11 : 7

    • @kimartist
      @kimartist 7 місяців тому +1

      Hebrews 11 is the "Faith Chapter" & details many "heroes of the faith."

    • @dmoffitt1914
      @dmoffitt1914 7 місяців тому

      @@kimartist I posted this same response on another comment

  • @anonymom_
    @anonymom_ 7 місяців тому +1

    C.J. Koster and The Scriptures translation (ISR) was my introduction to the SNO (Sacred Name Only) Movement, which is a faction within the HRM. He also wrote a book called Come Out of Her My People. This book, and another very much like it, Fossilized Customs, were a huge influence. I'm still trying to get my bearings on what, if any of that info was true. You'll notice that many words (not only names) in this translation are changed, such as: grace = favor, glory = esteem, holy = set apart, etc... this is because these words are considered pagan in origin, and not acceptable in worship of YHWH. I had a really hard time with this. For a time, I became so engulfed by these teachings that I stopped saying many "unclean"/pagan words like the names for the days of the week and months of the year, etc. The fact that it was hard to converse with a regular person due to my complicated speech was just evidence to how set apart I was. And this really was only the beginning. It got even fringier from there.
    Coincidentally, we lived near the Berkson's assembly, but wouldn't fellowship with them because of certain fringe beliefs we held at that time that prevented it. What a mess.

    • @TheBiblicalRoots
      @TheBiblicalRoots  7 місяців тому +1

      Thank you for sharing that!
      Rob

    • @ebonytucker564
      @ebonytucker564 2 місяці тому

      And how did you come out, receive deliverance...please share. My daughter seems stuck in it and many other of God's people. He shall deliver them from the hand of the wicked...😅😢😂

  • @lindarobey8935
    @lindarobey8935 2 місяці тому

    From Google: "What is ISR in the Bible?
    The Institute for Scriptural Research (ISR), located in the Republic of South Africa, uses the terms Pre-Messianic Scriptures for the Old Covenant and Messianic Scriptures for the New Covenant. Institute for Scriptural Research (1998) [Tyndale House, Cambridge, United Kingdom]"

  • @lindarobey8935
    @lindarobey8935 2 місяці тому

    Romans 11:6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

  • @BiblersWayCottage
    @BiblersWayCottage 4 місяці тому

    Faith is action and causes works but its God working in us... so we are saved by Grace which is Yeshua Titus 2:11 through our faith in Him and to be in Him we abide and eat of His flesh and drink of His blood which means living on the Word of God Deuteronomy 8:2-3 His Torah instructions for life
    shabbat shalom

  • @user-dx6qj4ue6h
    @user-dx6qj4ue6h 6 місяців тому +1

    Wonderful video! I have saved it for a future witnessing tool to dispel the lies of the HRM. I do believe the Rabbis reference to the lake and no swimsuit required was about the Lake of Fire. Blessings

  • @alanalynn2023
    @alanalynn2023 7 місяців тому +2

    Most people who follow Berkson have come out of other cults like SDA and Worldwide Church of God. Including Berkson himself.

    • @kimartist
      @kimartist 7 місяців тому +1

      That explains a lot. Blind leading the blind.

  • @JJ-Misch
    @JJ-Misch 7 місяців тому +2

    Why in Luke 2:40 did Jesus need Grace from his father, If grace is unmerited favour?

    • @debblouin
      @debblouin 7 місяців тому +2

      Luke 2:40 KJVS -
      40 And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him.
      Where do you get your assertion?

    • @TheBiblicalRoots
      @TheBiblicalRoots  7 місяців тому +1

      The ESV says "And the child grew and became strong, filled with wisdom. And the favor of God was upon him" (Luke 2:40). This doesn't say anything about Jesus _meriting_ God's favor.
      Shalom, RL

    • @JJ-Misch
      @JJ-Misch 7 місяців тому

      @@TheBiblicalRoots i’m trying to focus on the definition of the word grace. If it means unmerited favour or merited favour. I think we both can agree that Jesus did not need unmerited favour.

    • @JJ-Misch
      @JJ-Misch 7 місяців тому

      @@TheBiblicalRoots yes Jesus did merited favour that’s the wisdom part.

    • @kimartist
      @kimartist 7 місяців тому +1

      @@JJ-Misch merit means "the quality of being good and deserving praise."

  • @kdslight
    @kdslight 7 місяців тому +2

    Re: lake. I understood him to mean the Lake of Fire.

  • @ChrisTian-tz3eq
    @ChrisTian-tz3eq 7 місяців тому

    Does The Apostle James in James 2, disagree then, with Paul in Romans 4? ...

    • @kimartist
      @kimartist 7 місяців тому +1

      No. James is discussing works of faith (acts of love & kindness towards others) & Paul is discussing (in both Romans & Galatians) works of law (i.e. Torah keeping).

    • @ChrisTian-tz3eq
      @ChrisTian-tz3eq 7 місяців тому

      @@kimartist ... Oh, "Acts of love and kindness towards others"?... Like as in - "Loving God with all your heart, soul, and might" ( Deut 6 : 5 - 6 ), "Loving your neighbor as yourself" ( Lev. 19 : 18 )... including "loving even the stranger as yourself" ( Lev. 19 : 33 - 34 )?... and "Caring for the poor & needy, Fatherless, and widows ( Deut 10 : 16 - 19, Lev. 19 : 10 ) ?...
      And did Paul mean, the "Written Torah" i.e "The Commandments Of God" - (Romans 13 : 8 - 10) ? ... Or ... The "Oral Torah", i.e, the man-made "traditions" of The "Jews Religion" - ( Gal.1 : 13 - 14, Matt 15, Mark 7 ) ? ...
      Thx : )

    • @kimartist
      @kimartist 7 місяців тому +1

      @@ChrisTian-tz3eq Oh sorry. I thought you were asking a sincere question, not setting a trap for your next prey.

    • @kimartist
      @kimartist 7 місяців тому +1

      "Love is the fulfillment of the law."
      ~ Romans 13 : 10

    • @ChrisTian-tz3eq
      @ChrisTian-tz3eq 7 місяців тому

      @@kimartist ... Oh Of Course, It always has been! "To A Thousand Generations"! - ( Deut 7 : 9 ) ( How long is that?... )
      ...YHWH's Written Torah "defines" How He wants us to Love "Him", as well as "Others"... And Yeshua came to "Magnify" it for us again... Walking it out as an example for us perfectly. ( Isaiah 42 : 21 .. 1 John 2 : 6 )
      .. And Yes, indeed.. i caught you, with "love". ; )
      ( Exod 20 : 6 .. Lev 19 : 18 .. Lev 19 : 34 .. Deut 5 : 10 .. Deut 6 : 5 .. Deut 7 : 7 - 9 .. ( Gen 17 : 4 - 6 ) .. Deut 10 : 12 .. Deut 11 : 1 - 22 .. Deut 13 : 3 .. Deut 30.. ) ...May Yah bless thru His Son Yeshua.. Shalom/Peace ..

  • @lindarobey8935
    @lindarobey8935 2 місяці тому

    Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
    Ephesians 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
    Ephesians 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

  • @krystaltaylor2131
    @krystaltaylor2131 7 місяців тому +5

    I'm pretty sure when he's talking about "go swim in the lake", he's talking about the lake of fire. He's telling them to go to hell.

  • @marksr49341
    @marksr49341 7 місяців тому +1

    Oh my gosh! The word is grace. Literally the Word is Grace. Grace = free of price not free of reasonability. WOW

    • @JameyRocket
      @JameyRocket 7 місяців тому +1

      Not free of responsibility either. Grace =favor. Those who say they know Me and don't keep the commandments are a liar and the Truth is not in them

    • @marksr49341
      @marksr49341 6 місяців тому +1

      Grace does not = favor! Grace is a gift, NOT earned. Our responsibility is to keep the 2 commandments given by Christ. Love God and love each other as He loves us. That is very hard to do. Matthew 22:40 On these two commandments hang the law and all the prophets. The first covenant is fulfilled, and the new covenant is sealed in His blood. @@JameyRocket

    • @JameyRocket
      @JameyRocket 6 місяців тому

      @@marksr49341 the very passage you quoted says all the law and prophets hang on those two...ALL... Mathew 5:17. We are to guard the commandments not throw them away

    • @marksr49341
      @marksr49341 6 місяців тому

      @JameyRocket Yes, He came to fulfill! And He did! The law has been fulfilled. All of the 613 laws are now written in our hearts, and if we keep His 2, we will fulfill all of the commandments. We throw away nothing, but we need not keep track of those 613 because the Holy Spirit will guide us to His delight. But we must pray and listen to Him.

    • @marksr49341
      @marksr49341 6 місяців тому +1

      @JameyRocket Mosaic law is 613. Christ gave us 2, and on those 2, hang all the law and prophets. This is the whole point of the gospel. NOT under the law. IT, THE LAW, has been fulfilled. We are under the new covenant.

  • @lindarobey8935
    @lindarobey8935 2 місяці тому

    1 Peter 1:5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

  • @2talon1
    @2talon1 4 місяці тому

    37:04-37:08 lolol that was a great line!! Gotta remember that one 😅

  • @tbishop4961
    @tbishop4961 7 місяців тому +1

    27:20 "it is finished" .. you don't like people adding to this, but you promptly add to it. Hmmm🤔
    I think the obvious conclusion is that he is referring to *his* life and mission. Any meaning beyond this is a stretch

  • @thephilipmason
    @thephilipmason Місяць тому

    Interesting video. I agreed with being Barean and that we shouldn't be devisive.
    Now, I was raised in Christianity, and also used to attend MTOI. I agree, Rabbi Berkson makes some problematic statements, none represented in this video.
    To be fair, if you're not familiar with Rabbi's teachings, the video you played was an "Infocus" which is a snippet of an hour long teaching, in this case the teaching, Be Set Apart. In this particular snippet of this teaching, Rabbi briefly addresses the topic of Grace. He doesn't go into proper detail here because he has already laid out a teaching which is a 14 hour study, line by line, verse by verse on what the Scripture says about Grace. Rabbi's expectation as he teaches is that when he references a topic that he's already covered, you're better to go back to that teaching to understand the concept.
    Rather than addressing a two minute sound bite. I'd be interested to hear the conclusion you come to after following Rabbi line by line through Scripture. Seriously.
    Shalom.
    ua-cam.com/play/PLf9HOA0P9oX938LNYB-lLCX3IJ5gQ2yZG.html&si=sRT8DlSrJnzURuE4

  • @jimharmon2300
    @jimharmon2300 Місяць тому

    Genesis 26:5 (KJV)
    Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.
    Abraham showed his faith by his willingness to sacrifice his son .
    We prove our faith by doing the works of GOD as Abraham did .
    We want to claim the blessings of Abraham but fail to do as Abraham did .

  • @rayaniperera6565
    @rayaniperera6565 Місяць тому

    Whats the difference between grace and mercy?

    • @TheBiblicalRoots
      @TheBiblicalRoots  Місяць тому

      Hi, Ryan! I guess I would put. it this way:
      Grace is blessing and favor that the receiver did not earn.
      Mercy is withholding punishment that the receiver _did_ earn.
      Blessings,
      RLS

  • @genestudniskisr2658
    @genestudniskisr2658 5 днів тому

    Please listen to today's teaching 6/16/2024 from Corner Fringe Ministries on You Tube or their website

  • @seekinghistruth2843
    @seekinghistruth2843 6 місяців тому

    So this 8:29 minute in focus you are critique come from a 23 part series called "Be Set Apart", did you listen to all of them? Matthew 7:29...I am looking for a teacher such as this, who speaks with authority, which I have never heard in the christian community and that would include this video. Think I will check him out...

    • @TheBiblicalRoots
      @TheBiblicalRoots  6 місяців тому +1

      Hi, SHT. The rabbi released his 8:29 minute _In Focus_ video as a stand-alone video, so that's how I reviewed it. Are you suggesting that he says things in the 23-part series that change the points I critiqued in this one?
      Blessings, Rob

    • @seekinghistruth2843
      @seekinghistruth2843 6 місяців тому

      @@TheBiblicalRoots For you, probably not. Best way to understand is to start from the beginning.

    • @seekinghistruth2843
      @seekinghistruth2843 4 місяці тому

      @@TheBiblicalRoots So I have listen to several of your videos as well as this Rabbi. I am suggesting that you have taken his words out of context. He wasn't talking about works for salvation. When we pray for patience, God doesn't tap us on the shoulder and say, 'ok, here is your patience.' He gives us situations that we navigate to develop patience. You have said God's love language is obedience. He doesn't give us obedience, we have to do our part to show him obedience. In it's simplest form, that translates to work and didn't I see a comment from you about works being a sign of faith. Are you a parent? If yes, do you do everything for them or do you encourage them to use the skills they learned from you to figure it out. I totally understand what he means when he says God only does what we can't, not what we won't and it has nothing to do with the gift of salvation.

    • @seekinghistruth2843
      @seekinghistruth2843 3 місяці тому

      @@TheBiblicalRoots I was taught that the first Christians were the 12 disciples of Yeshua and to be a disciple meant you did things the way your teacher taught you. Somewhere along the way of time, the way of a Christian got lost in the man-made organized religion of Christianity…an organization that is synonymous with man’s interpretation of scripture. I choose to be a follower of Yeshua, whom I believe is not just the son of Yahweh but the living, breathing, walking Torah of Yahweh. Am I becoming a Jew and practicing Judaism? Nope and trying to become a Jew is not an easy feat to accomplish. Am I becoming a member of the HRM? Nope, because I walked away from the organization called Christianity. You have said Torahism (your word) is un-biblical and recently a commentator on one of your video’s said Torah was a trap. Both of these disturb me yet I recently heard you say in one of your video’s ‘Torah observant Christians’. Within the context of Christianity, it would be difficult to follow Torah. Nothing Yahweh gave us is un-biblical or a trap or no longer applicable (I am aware of your position on the 613 laws). Yeshua lived and taught Torah and he is who I will follow (thus following Torah) and maybe someday I will be a good disciple. Having a good teacher is going to help and I have found one.
      Philippians 2:12-13
      My way to Yahweh, through Yeshua will not be through Christianity. I wish all of Christianity well with their personal journeys and pray they respect all those follow Yeshua, even those not in Christianity. I pray that the essence of Yeshua will become more prominent (than the condemnation I see) in the Christian commentators who flock to UA-cam. I pray that we all focus on working out our own personal journeys and not worry about how anyone else is walking. I wish us all peace in the faithfulness of Yahweh. And I praise Yahweh that he already knows who will be spending eternity with him and that man-kind does not have a say in this...we spend to much time squabbling like little children.

  • @jimijames7703
    @jimijames7703 7 місяців тому +1

    Galatians 4:21-31
    2 Corinthians 3:4-18

  • @tentmaker2254
    @tentmaker2254 7 місяців тому +1

    Reminds me of this verse: Titus 1:10 For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:

    • @dmoffitt1914
      @dmoffitt1914 7 місяців тому

      Which then reminds me of this verse II Peters 3:16 as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures. 17You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, take care that you are not carried away with the error of lawless people and lose your own stability. 18But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.

    • @kimartist
      @kimartist 7 місяців тому +1

      "Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard! Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears."
      ~ Acts 20 : 30

  • @jasonwhite646
    @jasonwhite646 7 місяців тому +3

    Brother. There is a better verse than Hebrews 9:12 as a rebuttal.
    Use Phillipians 2:13 [Not in your own strength] for it is God Who is all the while [19]effectually at work in you [energizing and creating in you the power and desire], both to will and to work for His good pleasure and satisfaction and [20]delight.
    I use the Amplified Bible.

    • @dmoffitt1914
      @dmoffitt1914 7 місяців тому

      But it's cut by all of Hebrews 11

    • @jasonwhite646
      @jasonwhite646 7 місяців тому +1

      I don't know what that means. Help me understand "cut by all of Hebrews 11."

    • @dmoffitt1914
      @dmoffitt1914 7 місяців тому

      @@jasonwhite646 all of Hebrews 11 supports what James says in chapter 2.
      Faith requires a work of obedience. Hebrews gives examples of faith from Enoch to Abraham, to David and the Prophets.
      Like I said, it's not the hearers of the words that are justified but the doers.

    • @jasonwhite646
      @jasonwhite646 7 місяців тому +1

      @@dmoffitt1914 An interesting reply to Phillipians 2:13. This verse is not contrary to Hebrews 11 nor James. I just know the difference between religious works of the flesh and works born of faith. We believers do not believe as the devils do.. right? So that which is born of the Spirit is spirit, that which is flesh is flesh. We can trust Him in us. Yeshua is the King of Kings and goes before us! We love a King who makes all things possible where we are weak. Our God is too big to ignore with empty words and passive ears. He commands us from the inside by His Spirit as we die daily. Peace brother. :)

    • @dmoffitt1914
      @dmoffitt1914 7 місяців тому

      @@jasonwhite646 I think I have caused a misunderstanding, and added a response to another post in your name and thread. I apologize. Your original post is a good scripture.

  • @coreybray9834
    @coreybray9834 Місяць тому

    Okay, so Romans 11 is introduced to argue that Paul sees works and grace as incompatible ideas. And while this is true of Paul’s view of grace, it isn’t necessarily true of how the rest of the Bible views the concept of grace. Grace is an Old Testament idea originally, long before paul started tampering with its meaning in his writings, and no one speaking of the use of grace in the Old Testament was asking people to come out from under the law to be under a lawless state of grace like Paul does in Romans 6:14. An observant Bible student would know that anyone speaking against the law and testimony and teaching spiritual anarchy like Paul does in Romans 6:14 is in direct violation of Isaiah 8:20-22 and has no light in them. God warns these people will curse both God and king and be driven into darkness. But, Christians ignore this warning and blindly follow Paul over a cliff anyway. This is concerning, because Paul admits openly to having a “messenger of Satan” in 2Corrinthians 12:7, after warning us in his previous chapter of 2Corrinthians 11 that Satan’s ministers are transformed into ministers of righteousness. This immediately raises the question of whether or not Paul was one of those transformed individuals parading around as a Christian, seeing he admits to having a “messenger of Satan”. And when God in 2Cor 12:7-10 does not remove Paul’s messenger of Satan, Paul makes up a convenient excuse that God’s grace is sufficient for him, revealing that Paul’s idea of grace leaves him high and dry, doing nothing to meaningfully resolve the problem with his messenger of Satan. Could that be God trying to tell us something serious about Paul that Christians are utterly ignoring? But, the greater problem with Paul’s excuse is that Paul claims to be an apostle. And in Luke 9:1, Christ gave all his true apostles power over ALL DEVILS, not merely a few. So, how is it that a man claiming to be an apostle like Paul can’t get rid of a “messenger of Satan” in 2Cor 12:7 if he is supposed to be an apostle??? Let me guess, Paul is the one apostle Christ didn’t give that power over all devils too? I mean, if we are truly going to test ideas according to the Scriptures, and not conveniently skirt around the dirty laundry here, we need to deal with the problem of Paul far more directly than Christians pretend to do when push comes to shove. Because Paul also blurts out in Acts 23:6 that he is still a Pharisee. Not only does this reveal that Paul is calling his conversion away from Phariseeism to become a follower of Christ into serious question, it also brings Paul under the scrutiny of Christ’s own warning in Matthew 16 to beware the doctrine of the Pharisees and Sadducees; thus, calling the entire body of Paul’s doctrine into question: being another warning Christians like to conveniently ignore. Furthermore, Christ warns in Matthew 23:15 that Pharisees like Paul will make their procelites twice the child of hell than themselves and in John 8:44 that Pharisees like Paul are of their father the devil; thus, explaining why Paul would have a “messenger of Satan” as he openly admits in 2Cor 12:7. Not that Christians are paying attention. And if Matthew 5:20 has Christ arguing that unless our righteousness is greater than the Scribes and Pharisees we will in no wise enter the kingdom of God, we must then ask How Paul plans to get himself and his “messenger of Satan” in 2Cor 12:7 into the kingdom of God??? So, we might want to resolve some of these primary problems with Paul, before using Paul as an authority to call others into question. Because to fail to do so would be hipocrisy of the highest order-especially in light of the fact that in Deuteronomy 13 God makes it exceedingly clear that he will send in false prophets and such just to test to see if we love him or if we will follow after false teachers away from God. And Paul’s calling us out from under God’s law is not just provoking God to conclude in Isaiah 8:20 that there is no light in Paul, it is also revealing that Paul is opposing Isaiah 8:16 where God says to bind up the testimony and seal the law among my disciples. If you are a disciple of God, why would you follow Paul out from under the protection of the seal of God which is his law, to be under Paul’s lawless alternative of grace? The binding of the law to the right hand and forehead is a practice that is discussed in Deuteronomy 6, and the alternative in Revelation 14 is to receive the mark of the beast in one’s right hand and forehead instead. So, was Paul setting up millions of Christians to flee from the protection of God’s seal to be partakers of the mark of the beast? This might help to explain in greater detail why God says that those like Paul who speak against the law and testimony have NO LIGHT IN THEM in Isaiah 8:20. But, notice, those who get the victory and stand on the sea of glass do not sing the song of Paul and the Lamb, but the song of Moses and the lamb instead: because Moses and Christ are the two prophets of Deuteronomy 18. Paul is a liar, a fraud, a Pharisee with a messenger of Satan who tried to create a wedge between God’s law and the gospel of Christ to derail Christianity. It’s time Christians woke up to this reality already.
    Of course, if you go to Romans 4 and pull up Paul’s example of Abraham, you must also compare it to James 2:20-24, because James disagrees with Paul and insists Abraham was justified by works. James argues that it is works that makes our faith perfect, further holding to his former position in verse 17 that faith without works is dead being alone. So, when Paul pushes his idea of grace in Romans 4:1-4, and pushes justification by faith without works in verse 5, Paul comes under the scrutiny of James 2:17 which argues that Paul is teaching a doctrine of “dead faith”, seeing James holds that faith without works is dead, BEING ALONE, not a doctrine of living faith. By verse 18, James continues to test Paul’s idea of dead faith asking him to show he even has faith without his works. Just saying Paul has faith without works is not proof he has faith at all. By verse 19, James is arguing that even the devils believe, likely aware that Paul admits in 2Cor 12:7 to having a “messenger of Satan”; thus, helping to expose that Paul may not be the best source to get one’s doctrinal position on faith and grace from. And we have a pretty good idea that James 2 is a direct response to Romans 4, because these are the only two chapters in the New Testament which discuss this idea of imputing righteousness. So, this now leaves us with the question of are we really saved by dead, imperfect faith in Paul’s doctrine of salvation, or are we rather better off holding to a doctrine of living faith which is perfected by our works as James 2 teaches instead?

  • @dennisatkins9837
    @dennisatkins9837 3 місяці тому

    Not exactly sure what his reference to the lake was but he mentioned asbestos which is used in fire retardant clothing. 🤷

  • @coreybray9834
    @coreybray9834 Місяць тому

    Now, Paul in Romans 3 and 5 is certainly claiming that grace is a “free gift”. But, Christ never teaches that grace is a “free gift”. Just as Christ never teaches this idea of man being “saved by grace” either. We first see this idea spoken of by Peter in Acts 15, but only after Peter has been influenced by that old Pharisee Paul during the debates which took place at the first church council. And Paul’s arguing that we are saved by grace in Ephesians 2:8-9 is problematic, because Christ comes back to John in Revelation 2, having John write to the same church of Ephesus to repent and DO THE FIRST WORKS, the exact opposite of Paul’s idea of being saved by grace and “NOT OF WORKS” in Ephesians 2:8-9. Christ warns that if they do not do this, he will remove their candlestick, and only those who overcome in the church of Ephesus Christ offers the tree of life, suggesting that salvation depends heavily on works. As for wages, Christ says he will pay a penny to those who come and work for him in one of his parables. The penny he is obviously talking about is eternal life, because it is the same penny that he gives all his workers in the parable. So, while it might offend Paul that people work to earn their salvation, that is not logically equivalent to it offending God. And if Christ didn’t believe works save us, why did Christ spare the sheep for the works they did, but destroyed the goats for the same list of works they failed to do in the parable of the sheep and goats in Matthew 25? Clearly, the goats should have responded to Christ and said, “But, Paul said we don’t have to do works to earn our salvation”. So, Christ introduced parables which argues for the opposite of what Paul is teaching. Again, this raises the question, should we be following Paul who has a messenger of Satan in 2Cor 12:7 and who blurts out he is still a Pharisee in Acts 23:6, or should we be more careful and realize Paul infiltrated Christ’s movement conveniently after Christ’s ascention, and we need to beware his doctrine as Christ warns us in Matthew 16 concerning Pharisees like Paul? As for the Abraham issue from Genesis, many argue that it is actually Abraham believing God and counting God as being righteous for the promise God makes with Abraham, not Abraham being counted righteous for simply believing God’s promise. So, Paul’s view depends on how one interprets the engagement between God and Abraham. Seeing that James counter’s Paul’s view and argues that Abraham is justified by works in James 2:20-24, it becomes evident that James wasn’t exactly buying into Paul’s interpretation of the Abraham issue. And just because Paul worries that a person might boast of their works, Paul does nothing to guarantee that they will necessarily boast, so even that argument from Paul is weak and mostly irrelevant to the fact of whether or not God views their works as relevant to their salvation. Paul is not the judge, so his word would not be even remotely final on such a matter. And notice, the sheep in the parable of the sheep and goats Christ saves according to the works Christ points out, he doesn’t portray those sheep as boasting at all. So, Paul is easily refuted in this line of reasoning from Christ’s own teachings. In fact, the last two parables of Matthew 25 finds the unprofitable servant and goats are both rejected, and those are the ones not doing works. Everyone else who does works is favored by Christ. Funny how Paul gets it so darn backwards and wrong. Yet, most Christians today follow Paul more than they follow Christ their Savior. Is it any wonder that Christ in Matthew 7 warns us that broad is the way to destruction and that very few will find the gate to life? So, the popular and broad grace delusion floating around in Christianity today might be just the thing Christ is trying to warn us about, helping us to understand that the true path to salvation is not this popular reworked idea of grace Paul cleverly peddled to the gullible masses. Because if grace is a free gift as paul claims, then the unprofitable servant and the goats of Matthew 25 should have pitched a fit and made a stink about that in the last two parables Christ gave on the subject. Clearly, God was upset when the unprofitable servant and the goats did no works. Casting the goats into the firey furnace prepared for Satan and his angels certainly makes their failure to do the works pointed out a testament to how Christ is saying our works are critical to our salvation whether Paul wanted to believe that truth or not. So, you need to decide if you follow Paul or if you follow Christ, because Christ warns us again that a man cannot serve two masters, and many Christians are in fact trying to serve two masters, but they over time love Paul and learn to hate Christ in the process, rejecting most of what Christ teaches as they follow Paul out from under the law into a lawless state of grace in Romans 6:14.
    But, there is a deeper issue we need to consider here. God warns us of those who have a heart like an adamant stone in Zechariah 7. These are people who will not hear God’s law, nor the words God sent by the Spirit through his servants the prophets. It’s the same rebellion God mentions in Isaiah 30, when he asks Isaiah to write it in a book how rebellius his people are, not hearing his law and wanting the prophets to speak lies and smooth things, as the people seek for the Most High to cease from before them. God knows intimately what man’s stony heart is all about, and in Ezekiel 11 and 36, God is going to help his true followers get rid of their stony heart, implying that these are people who will stop rejecting the law and the prophets of God. These people will receive a new heart, but those who keep rejecting the law and prophets will not receive a new heart, but will continue to follow Paul out from under the law and cement their stony heart in place. And when the curse starts to devour the earth in Isaiah 24:6, it will begin to become evident how right God was to warn us that our transgressing his law, changing his ordinance and breaking his everlasting covenant is the real cause for this outcome as the inhabitance of the earth will be burned for this. And by Isaiah 33, God warns that those who have developed good characters, however, will be able to dwell with everlasting burnings. They will not perish when the curse devours the earth like those who rejected and trampled all over God’s law.

  • @troyrobinson9406
    @troyrobinson9406 24 дні тому

    And exactly what works did the criminal dying on a cross do to merit going to Paradise with Jesus? He simply believed.

  • @makestraightthewayofthelor664
    @makestraightthewayofthelor664 7 місяців тому

    “Blessed be the LORD God of Israel from everlasting to everlasting: and let all the people say, Amen. Praise ye the LORD.”

  • @jealiner
    @jealiner 5 днів тому

    Do you know what righteousness mean? To Do what is right, right? Even to believe, is something you do, but by the way to take an eight minute snippet of of a 23 part series of over 30 hours and building a case against someone is rediculous, don't you think? I would say you have a right to form a conclusion ONLY if you watched the entire topic, don't you think? Professor?

  • @AdriaanKroon-wk7tv
    @AdriaanKroon-wk7tv 7 місяців тому

    Faith definition: 4102 pístis (from 3982/peithô, "persuade, be persuaded") - properly, persuasion (be persuaded, come to trust); faith.
    Faith (4102/pistis) is always a gift from God, and never something that can be produced by people. In short, 4102/pistis ("faith") for the believer is "God's divine persuasion" - and therefore distinct from human belief (confidence), yet involving it. The Lord continuously births faith in the yielded believer so they can know what He prefers, i.e. the persuasion of His will (1 Jn 5:4).

    • @AdriaanKroon-wk7tv
      @AdriaanKroon-wk7tv 7 місяців тому

      Being persuaded by God to do His will and change to become like Christ! 1 Pet 2:21, 2 Cor 3:18, John 15:9-11

  • @faythecody184
    @faythecody184 7 місяців тому +5

    He has a religious spirit. Hope he gets delivered by truth.

  • @AslanRising
    @AslanRising 7 місяців тому

    His reference to Romans 2, I think is 2:6-11, which says, (ESV) "He will render to each one according to his works: 7to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; 8but for those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, there will be wrath and fury. 9There will be tribulation and distress for every human being who does evil, the Jew first and also the Greek, 10but glory and honor and peace for everyone who does good, the Jew first and also the Greek. 11For God shows no partiality.". In fairness there are some, including RC Sproul and Calvin, who see this referring to rewards. Now, these rewards are NOT salvation, and ultimately done in Christ. I however do not believe this passage is referring to rewards. I am not alone on this; Hodge holds this view. Paul here, starting in Romans 1:18 is laying out an argument. Essentially Paul is going to show that both Jew and Gentile are under sin, slaves to sin, and incapable of doing good. Paul from 1:18 through 3:20, is making an argument based on Law, eternal life by obedience to the Law. In 2:6, Paul is saying, if one does well, God will render to them eternal life. We must ask, what is "well-doing"? Perfection to the Law, in thought, word and deed. As we'll see in 3, no one does this. Paul is merely continuing his argument, based on the Law, which, IMO, chapter 2 is directly addressed (though not exclusively) to Jews, who had the written Law. Paul is arguing that eternal life is by works, and at this point (2:6) in his argument, he's not yet shown it's not possible, so he states what is true, that if people perfectly obey Gods Law, in thought, word and deed, they shall be given eternal life. When we move onto chapter 3, we see, NO ONE does this. We must properly distinguish between Law and Gospel.

  • @hatcampbell7606
    @hatcampbell7606 6 місяців тому

    Hi Rl Solberg, the personal responsibilities that you have listed in this video such as caring for the widow etc. Are these as you say “permitted but not required”? Christian’s don’t have to do these things right? All one must do is believe in Jesus and we are saved right?

    • @TheBiblicalRoots
      @TheBiblicalRoots  6 місяців тому +1

      Hello, HAT! Are you asking what is necessary for salvation, or what is expected of us once we're saved? Because what is necessary for salvation is merely faith in Jesus (Eph. 2:8-9). And what is expected as a result of a genuine faith in Jesus are those personal responsibilities I listed (and more).
      As I mentioned in this video, _justification_ is by faith, _judgment_ will come according to works. In the end, the presence or absence of genuine saving faith in our hearts will be revealed by the presence or absence of good works of love in our lives. This is the key to reconciling Paul and James on this issue.
      Blessings,
      Rob

    • @hatcampbell7606
      @hatcampbell7606 6 місяців тому

      @@TheBiblicalRoots thank you Mr. Solberg. What are these good works of love? Does the Bible lay this out for us or do we all decide for ourselves as to what are “good” works or even what love is?

  • @HypnotixHaze.Magic.hypnosis.
    @HypnotixHaze.Magic.hypnosis. 2 місяці тому

    SO im istening to these through my ears at work, now screen. this is just a thought that flashed into my mind. I had to turn on my screen to glimpse if it was george carlin i was hearing.

  • @donaldmonzon1774
    @donaldmonzon1774 7 місяців тому +3

    Grotesque... can't stand listening to Bergson...eeek......keep up the good work 👍

    • @OneSparrow-76
      @OneSparrow-76 7 місяців тому +1

      10 seconds in I could tell there is a spirit of condemnation…

    • @OneSparrow-76
      @OneSparrow-76 7 місяців тому +1

      30 seconds in, there it is…slander…”the church taught you backwards”

    • @kimartist
      @kimartist 7 місяців тому +1

      There is a hard note of bitterness (pride/arrogance) in his voice.

    • @donaldmonzon1774
      @donaldmonzon1774 7 місяців тому +2

      @@kimartist I don't get the feeling he is trying to help his flock.... seems he's trying to harm them....I could be wrong... definitely bad vibes !!!!

    • @kimartist
      @kimartist 7 місяців тому +2

      @@donaldmonzon1774 Definitely not good. He seems so angry 😳