Top to Bottom Kinetic Chain | Forehand Technique Tutorial
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In today’s video, I present the real kinetic chain forehand technique that is utilized by all high level tennis players.
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Sorry for bothering you so often Nick! Fantastic content, it's incredible how many of the things you say, as a 31yo adult who started 3 years ago I have experienced and felt exactly, without mistake, in the same way. You clarify all the doubts I have and also repeat the convictions I had from learning on my own in an intuitive way. The mere name of your channel by far already sets you apart from everybody else, since it means you understand how intuitive is the learning of tennis, (ie I changed grip from eastern to semi-western without any conscious decision, it happen intuitively, same for my takeback and style, my game became more solid and better alongside my technique becoming better on its own (with theory and practice in between ofc) )and so many things that you talk about by far you understand the game better than any other coach here! Keep it up! I love your videos. And please if you have read "The Inner Game of Tennis," let me know your feedback, since tons of things written there are also extraordinarily coincidental with my own intuitive learning process.
Nice Nick! If Helen of Troy had the face that sailed a thousand ships, This is the video that saved a thousand forehand mishits!
Great post! Makes perfect sense. Really enforces what I’ve been thinking about technique for the past several months as I try to improve my game.
It's intuitive. Everything starts with tracking the ball the minute it leaves the opponent's racquet. Then the next thing is to determine which side to hit, forehand or backhand. After that, the preparation starts immediately to get the body in optimal position to execute the swing. The single most important thing I learned is to remember that all tennis shots are swings, and body rotation is instrumental. It's the body rotation that lifts the feet off the ground, not a jump. The feet are important to get the whole body in position in time and in balance to start the swing. You can imagine no swing is effective if the body is off balance.
Very clear! Thank you, as always great and simple explanation! of complex things!
Nick, I was thinking about another easy explanation: we rotate the chest and shoulders to coil the core muscles. Of course uncoiling those muscles to release the energy stored in them will accelerate the upper body first, rotating the upper body counter-clockwise. If the upper body was kept still, the lower body would tend to rotate... clockwise! Starting from the ground would mean giving up the coiling, which is the whole point of the forehand... Great video as always
The closest thing to a whiteboard video we'll get from Coach Nick. ✨
I love it! 😀
Great explanaion -The difference betweeen passiv jumping and activ jumping (like Iga on high balls for exampel) is very clear in your description. Thanks a lot.
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I wasn't getting enough torso rotation on my forehand (I am right handed). I was relying on looping and then arm muscling it too much. I recently added more power to my forehand by concentrating in my left (non-dominant) deltoid. During the coiling motion the left hand pushes the racket to the right side and then lets go and the left deltoid coming into peripheral view thus coiling the torso. During the forward stroke kinetic chain, I am now making sure that the left deltoid rotates to the left out of view before contact, thus activating torso rotation, increasing lag, and adding "effortless" power.
squirrels at 5:25
Hi Nick, really insightful analysis of the relationship of hip rotation to shoulder rotation. However, I am wondering how you teach more advanced players the leg drive when they are using their arms too much. Any thoughts? Thanks, Theo
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I promise you I haven’t played tennis in 25 years, and by the December of 2023 I will win a tournament. I have Two hip replacements and a plate in my left shoulder, and I 51 years old, and I will tee off off the modern serve, and I will destroy the top spin in modern tennis. Give me until December to get a proper racquet and proper training, which I will be soliciting Nickola services. That is a 100% on that! Would I play any of his top students and hold my owe today at me being out shape, and hadn’t played in 25 years..I have videos of me playing on this channel. Nick is a great coach and I love watching this channel
God blees
Well done Nikola! Definitely an eye opening video. Wish I had known that couple of years ago...
"Feet set after initiation of kinetic chain" - this is by far the best takeaway from this video 🤗. I think I had this issue for at least year and a half of my rec career. For me it was totally counter-intuitive to do anything with my racket and arms before I set in. I have always thought that hips aka "firing hips" is something that pros have in their arsenal and that enables them to hit with massive fire power🤔. If this is not the case. how do they do it? By superior fundamentals and technique, I suppose ...
Barely seeing this, agree. I think where players differ is in how much they allow their shoulders (together in unison) to ‘drive’ the arm, some lead more with the arm, others allow the arm to hang back longer and allow the shoulders to ‘drive’.
I get what u mean now. It makes all makes sense
THX to your Dad & he put you in the good path.
Thx
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In addition to the fact that at a recreational level, conscious jumping will inevitably result in unnecessary muscle loads and even joint injuries.
Personally I think that I only use it intuitively to adjust the height of the shot and I must admit that it is more difficult for me to adjust the target. Thanks Nik💪🎾
The way I’ve always taught it is that it’s top to bottom in release but the way you activate it is top to bottom.
I wouldn’t say top down is definitive since the timing is so short it could be either way. But hip initiated isn’t 100% false it is still valid and you can still use hip even if shoulder is in front since hip moves the entire body more than any other muscle without looking like it twist much
Hey Nick! Did you switch your racquet from the Babolat Pure Drive Plus?
Love your content and have watched several of your videos over the last 2 years. First time to comment though. A quick question if you get time.
Does the leg drive hip rotation not initiate the forward motion of the swing?
I don’t see how it would work if the swing started first and then hip rotation.
Watching several slow motion videos in slow motion, frame by frame, it looked like the rotation of the hips starts a split second before the forward swing and the arm was the passenger. So non dominate arm initiates the shoulder rotation as the racket drop is happening. Then weight transfer hip rotation. Then the arm follows?? To me this seems like the most natural order for “effortless power”??? But, I certainly don’t have the experience that you have. I could have easily misunderstood the video!!!! Haha.
Hi my friend, I was wondering what club you teach at? Because I live in Florida in Port Orange on the and if you are over palm coast, I would love to meet you in person and take some lessons with you.
What you are teaching, my baseball coach used to teach you hit with your eyes. I feel you on the age thing I am 51 and will be 52 in December. Great job on the video my friend. GOD bless you and yours my friend.
the whole video talked about what not to do, that i still don't know what to do
my high school tennis coach yelled at me for "jumping" when I was getting the small airborne on the forehand
Hop used is still valid. Has nothing to do with stances nor the position of the leg
So I’m confused…. Just watched Dr. Mark Kovacs talking about the hips and the “coke bottle opening” to get an extra 20mph on your fore hand ……then Nick saying its top to bottom….. who is right?
In that regard, the tennis forehand is definitely different than throwing a ball. I pitch baseball at high level and the kinetic chain is exactly from the ground to the top.
I suspect that the two motions are very similar. What Nik is hinting at is that kinetic chains move in more complex ways than just bottom-to-top. They probably dont move the top-to-bottom either. Watch a pitcher in slow motion after he plants his front foot. Arm, shoulder, and hip fire in that order.
@@doosrajawad Absolutely not. What is crucial for a pitcher is to first open the front foot, then rotate the hip and last the shoulders. It is call the hip and shoulder separation and is vital to get velocity
Although not exactly the same pitching is more similar in its use of the kinetic chain with the serve
Both are correct.....hand first or leg first.....from hand to leg, and from leg to hand!
Kinetic chain from ground is a total nonesense. Pressing feet against ground is one of the several peripheral moves done in tennis, but it's not kinetic chain. Other examples of peripheral moves: Supination, Pronation, tucking left hands in, etc. Pressing legs means straightening up and is not kinetic chain, exactly the same way that pronation of the lower arm on some forehands is not kinetic chain. It's a peripheral move, imo. Btw. thanks coach for explaining a lot of interesting things in this video.
Just a little of my own feeling: when I’m at a ready position and go for a winner, I start the move from the leg, then hip, shoulder, arm……; when I’m on the move, I have to start from the arm and down. I might be doing it wrong tho
Personally, I don't understand why so many aspiring players get so hung up on all this kinetic chain stuff. I guess tennis nerds :). Me, I just hit the ball.
I agree, I play at a high level and I have no idea what I do. I just try and beat the ball to the bounce and hit it. It is amazing what the body will do when you let it do it naturally. I like Nik so I watch his videos and do pick up some good stuff now and then. He is very good. But there is nothing worse for your game (golf too) than grinding over mechanics and trying to get in certain positions. They asked Federer once what grip he was using, he had no idea.
@@eincan1313 I think some people are naturally gifted for certain sports and get the right technique without much effort, or by watching high level players and reproducing what they do. Most people don't have this ability.
Then there are also people who succeed at certain high level without being very good technically speaking, but compensating with other parameters : stamina, velocity, good hand-eye coordination etc.
@@oliverpoppinz4340 I get where you are coming from and with sports some people are going to pick it up easier as some will with music etc…. With tennis my body knows what to do as I starting training at 6 years old. I am still always looking for ways to improve, but they are small tweaks now as I have very good strokes. The basis of my point was that there can be paralysis by analysis if you dig too deep and can end up fighting what the body wants to naturally. As an example, I picked up golf as an adult. I learned the basics of the grip/stance and then proceeded to go down the rabbit hole of trying to have perfect mechanics and positions. After 2 years of this chase and playing awful, I took a break. A year later I went back to playing with no self videos or trying to hit perfect positions and like magic I started to improve. Now I am a 4 handicap. Obviously you need a basic foundation, but then you need to let the body what it wants to do naturally and not fight it. If I were to give you an ax to chop a tree. Would you start watching the 10 perfect positions on swinging an ax on YT and try to match them or just swing the damn thing using body rotation and chop the tree?
@@eincan1313It depends, did you have good coaching for multiple years?
Because if you didn't you need to understand technique yourself to properly progress (or have a coach), because otherwise 99% of players will never get past 3.5.
@@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten I started playing at age 5 and trained with Agassi at the Bollettieri Academy, so yes I would say my technique is pretty good. I do agree with you though, people need a foundation where they learn the to incorporate the correct technique into muscle memory. However, what I notice especially since there are so many UA-cam videos out there etc… that even intermediate players are getting lost in a mountain of information and their games become a mess. Learn the basics and then see ball, hit ball.