You beat me to it... Well, actually a lot of people caught this, but you got the most likes. Yeah Waco and Ruby Ridge aren't exactly the two best examples I'd use first to cite how great of a HRT team member I am, at saving people. Like applying to be a baseball right fielder and at your interview, you show yourself dropping a sheet of paper in a parking lot, and then doing that awkward jacked up jog people do in the attempt to catch it, accidentally kicking it a few times in the process.
@@doc325 Yup. I agree. It'd be like an engineer bragging that he designed the Hindenburg and then went on to Captain the Titanic. I thought it was a joke at first tbh. Good comment!
@@immortalehal9150 that sickened these brave men who wanted to save the hostages - it was our insane government who held them back - read his book - you will understand their anguish.
Two albeit horrible failures against a career of saving people from horrible situations. I thank the man for his service. I wish that those situations ended differently but we can't change the past.
imagine crawling into a hornets nest and not making a sound or sudden movement when they sting the shit out of you. that's some inhuman levels of focus.
I remember when I was about 10, sitting in church with my dad, and he swatted at his pant leg by his knee a few times. I asked, "what's wrong, Daddy?", and he told me to be quiet and pay attention to the sermon. He was stung four times on the knee area. We found out that day that he was allergic to stings. His leg swelled up, and he could barely walk, but he limped out of church and drove to the hospital. Not nearly the level of what was mentioned here, but I was pretty impressed.
@@KingNerdius yeah i humbly know that. it was a complete fu bar. our policemen has studied its failure, though im from the army, but yes. what u said is true
Chris Whitcomb: Breaks down each scene with an objective critique of methods used Waco Siege: "I'm not going to talk about what went right, what went wrong"
He did highlight an element ppl don’t often consider. By waiting them out and pushing the Davidians to a point of desperation, you’re inviting extreme reactions under a different mindset. When ppl have hope they’re far more compliant. He can’t act outside the AGs orders. It’s the essence of military life.
@@Menuki He forgot to mention when the feds and atf murdered a dudes wife and kid. They also arrested him for selling short barreled shotguns they gave him, he was found innocent after a raid on his home killed his wife and kid. That’s pretty fucked.
Maybe they could find one of the children that didn't get burned alive in the branch davidian raid to tell everyone what they experienced, I'm sure there would be more than happy to help.
Honestly, that opening phrase destroyed any care I had to even watch the video. It's not often I see someone so quickly obliterate any possible respect I could have for them, but damn did he do it.
Did you not see what he said about it though? Clearly they weren't able to do what they felt was right but had to wait for authorisation, maybe because it was so widely publicised decisions became too bureaucratic
@@jamiesmith3259 With Wako there are different versions of the event. It's disputed. The FBI obviously don't want to take any blame. This guy is being loyal to his crew. Before you start I don't have a dog in this fight I don't have a strong opinion either way about the events. Just saying there's more than one version of events and if the film went with a version that reflects badly on the FBI then of course he is going to dislike it.
@@edmann1820 not going to start, I wasn't there so my knowledge is just on hearsay, of course he's not going to want to accept blame but it's also totally feasible that red tape didn't help. We'll never know.
@ they literally used entrapment to get the family at RR to have a sawed off shotgun. They convinced the guy to break the law who otherwise wouldn’t have and then Lon Horiuchi made the decision to shoot the woman in the head while she held her infant. No higher up told them to shoot the mother
For reference, Waco had both the FBI and the ATF present heavily involved in the siege, while the Ruby Ridges siege had FBI do much more of the grunt work at ground level. This should give you all the context you need as to why an FBI HRT guy was (relatively) more open about why Waco was such a fuckup but said very little about Ruby Ridges.
Wasn't Ruby Ridge like half of the alphabet gang. FBI, ATF, USMS and Secret Service. Basically half the glowing agencies involved. Interesting also how an official from the DOJ basically confirmed wrong doing by the agencies involved in the civil suit that was settled out of court by stating that if they had gone to trial they would have probably won the full amount they wanted.
@chaosvolt7771: Both were huge screw ups and murder. 75 people died at waco (25 which were children). They could of arrested Koresh any day he went jogging up the road but they wanted to do the raid because ATF was due to have a huge budget cut so they wanted to show they are needed.
you'll see photos of national guard posing with stuff from waco as well - i think a lot of it is simply just guys who were in the rear and had no part in it seeing cool stuff and going "wow this'll make for a good photo" and it's no different than iraq or afghanistan veterans as well
@@oskarzimmermann2 He specifically mentioned those incidents in his introduction. He did not mention any other operations with which he was involved in his introduction, therefore suggesting those are particularly important ones.
@@ElJulioso He mentions them because He knows thats what people want to know... Says nothing about that beeing a Highlight of His career. I am Sure a man this Long in the Job has handled a Situation before were less then 26 Kids have died
lol you kidding?! i was cringing at their shit tactics, every guy running up to windows like they are montey and then being surprised they all got fucked up but familys with a little common sense
"Australian Rappelling" is called Karabiner run-down in Australia - or at least by the SASR who taught it as part of reservist training. To make it more exciting we had to construct our personal body harnesses out of twine! Never has correct knot tying been of such importance to me :-)
Knot tying isn't a big deal - as long as you prefer the fast route down. Personally, I prefer to take my time getting down, at least a few seconds longer than the fast way.
The bad guy in that Captain America scene was also former DGSE (French CIA), and French SOF are also known for 'Assault Rappelling' face-down, so the expert in this case is wrong about technique there. It makes sense though that FBI-HRT would know they can safely rappel face-up because they plan all their breaches to a T, and secure the ground before going in. But SOF may not always know if the ground is secure, and want to keep their guns pointed forward so they're not caught butt-in-the-air with a hostile below.
Our scout platoon guys would jump off of the tower with slack and try to see who could bounce closest to the ground using Ausie style. We tied ALL of our own "swift seats" and for Ausie, it was just a doubled up 12' rope with a square not and two half hitches. Snap link in back. We did improvised rappelling with no harness. The rope is just wrapped around your body.
@@Yvaelle that part is what some people have a hard time to grasp- what is the difference between hostage rescue, which is basically a police business - and a military operation. The entire philosophy is different, even though the weaponry and the look may be similar.
I love how he dances around the fact that the shot at Ruby Ridge hit a woman holding a baby. You can blame Janet Reno and the ATF for how Waco turned out.
@@stuffzie8329 I said *shot,* not shotgun. The ATF dude shot a woman with a rifle while she was holding a baby. They were mad at the home owner because the wouldn't go undercover for them with these white supremacists that lived near by and he wouldn't do it so they busted him for trying to sell some shotguns that didn't have 18" barrels. I've looked all over and can't find anything as to just how short was too short. They might have been 10" or they might have been 17.75" for all we know. Based on how the whole thing panned out, it was likely more towards the later.
@@jacobstaten2366 It should also be said that they induced him to make those short barreled shotguns in the first place. He was eventually acquitted of the charges on the grounds of entrapment. So the FBI attempted to pressure a man into involving himself in a dangerous undercover operation, tricked him into violating the NFA, then murdered his wife and children, and he was ultimately found not guilty at the end of the whole thing. Waco is debatable, but anyone who defends the actions of the feds at Ruby Ridge is either blind or stupid and probably both.
"Why are they protecting the president don't they know you slow down and give potential snipers better shots and one of your own randomly has an ND that also hits the president seriously unrealistic"
That's not a fair assessment about secret service in 1963 because the president wanted to campaign from a open top convertible. Now days because of what happened that day the president can't be allowed to travel in such accommodations. Back in the 1960's the president can make that a standing order and secret service would not have been able to override.
@@cpi3267 I did but what your not taking into account us what you didn't see this wasn't on camera the security vulnerabilities existed long before JFK was even born. Look at president Harry Truman, Dwight D Eisenhower who had all conducted some of their visits in open topped convertibles. The president back then used to be able to leverage this out of secret service.
All films discussed: 0:33 Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014) 2:53 Captain Phillips (2013) 4:07 Die Hard (1988) 5:13 6 Days (2017) 7:52 The Dark Knight (2008) 8:46 The Taking Of Pelham 123 (2009) 10:33 Patriots Day (2016) 12:52 NCIS S7E9 (2009) 14:10 The Siege At Ruby Ridge (1996) 16:09 WACO S1E6 (2018)
When he said about Ruby Ridge I did think…’wait, didn’t that go really badly and a woman was killed in a situation at best described as poor decision making’
Dog, son, missed infant daughter and took out wife. Then thinking they killed the daughter (or maybe not) kept asking what Vicki was making him for breakfast over loudspeakers.
@@stephen3762 The audiobook is really different. Whole chapters are missing in the audiobook. My interpretation is he feels most of the blame lies with the perpetrators, which one would expect from a G man. I felt like he only blames Clinton for not defending his people, which would include the FBI and Janet Reno
@@boilerkim1530 Lol. Randy Weaver just wanted to be left in peace in the middle of nowhere. Fed agents came on his land and killed his wife, son, and dog. The gov't were the perpetrators. Sounds like you didn't even look into this stuff.
@@stephen3762 I was simply passing on to you my recollection of the book and Whitcomb's perspective as I remember it. You can do with it what you will.
.......that minor omitted fact is no real big deal compared to the fact this made for tv movie falsely and outrageouly depicted his FBI sniper colleague standing behind a tree.
@@ClayYZ250f I am not sure whether you are being sarcastic. Assuming you are not, do you have any evidence that occurred? Selfies were not a thing back in 1993 since smart phones did not exist. If you are being sarcastic, LOL!
Why not? He knows that people are going to respect him a thousand times more if he starts with the fact that he was involved in those controversial events than if he were to hide that fact from the viewers.
They didn't fire an automatic weapon at Waco or Ruby Ridge though. At Ruby Ridge one person was killed by a sniper shot from the FBI Hostage Response Team (a few others had died earlier on in an incident involving US Marshals). At Waco they pumped the building full of tear gas until it caught fire. I don't believe the FBI fired on anyone inside. The point he was making in that segment is that you wouldn't lay down suppressing fire with a machine gun from a helicopter with civilians present. If you were going to take a shot at all, it would be a sniper shot.
At 9:07 that's the most impressed I've ever been in awhile. No matter what you train, nothing's gonna prepare you for getting fk'd by a swarm of angry hornets. Dude just takes the beating? Wtf man
It's good to hear about the frustration from the people on the ground at Waco, basically having to try to save lives while blindfolded and one hand ties behind your back. Before hearing stories like Chris's, I assumed everyone was on the same page about building up a small army with the pretence of rescue. Now I know differently
Yeah, I don't get the comments against this man in particular for being there - it's like blaming a ship engine expert for how the captain pushed the throttle and wrecked the ship directly into a mountain.
@ctakitimu: You have no idea what your talking about. These pos evil cowards did the raid when they could of arrested Koresh when he did his daily jogging but no. They needed this raid because huge budget cut was coming to ATF. It will make u sick if u knew the whole truth.
@@leob_v2 you really gonna defend the guy who shot randy weaver's wife at ruby ridge and posed with his .50 cal rifle in the smoldering ashes of waco?
@@johnwayne9828 He's not because a, he did not shoot randy weaver's wife and b, im pretty he wasn't the one posing with the .50 cal, so i think you need to check your facts.
I would have loved to hear more of his opinion on other countries operation. For example the movie about the retaking of flight 8969 by GIGN operators. Hope there'll be another episode.
The GIGN are fkn hardcore, they've only lost what? 8 dudes ever and it was in training (357 mag at point blank can in fact stop your heart) the media is forbidden from taking their picture and the penalties of that are ambiguous. Almost makes me wish I was French.
@@Anarchristian_Beanz im part of the Gendarmerie now and have 4 years left to do before trying to join the "Groupe" tbh he is the perfect guy for the situation cause most of people when it came that to those case just avoid talking altogether (RAID never mentionned how they fucked up hyper cacher and st denis assault and it was really bad all the injured where du to fraternal fire) at least he is honest, knows more than any other cops i met and cause he had 10 times more "hot" intervention than most swat guys combined
@@springbloom5940 The ATF decided to murder innocent children and women. It was *entirely* the state's fault. They fucked up the operation and escalated it, to the point of murdering innocent people. Go learn some history you donkey.
@@springbloom5940 explain how it was the family at RR’s fault or for what reason the Branch Davidians needed to be raided/why, assuming Koresch needed to be arrested, they didn’t get him on his morning run? Or why they removed evidence from the compound afterwards or why they threw flammable gas into an area filled with kids and lied about the Davidians modifying an AK’s upper receiver which doesn’t exist, AK’s have no upper receiver they simply have a single receiver.
I have great respect for the skills and discipline of HRT troopers. Rangers, SEALs, SF and Delta guys speak very highly of their professionalism and consummate competence. That being said, the his comments about Ruby Ridge and Waco really made me cringe. Many people involved, including HRT guys, have previously spoken to how screwed up it all was - especially how they were sent in to clean up ATF's messes. But Mr. Whitcomb basically blasts these movies for not being pro-law enforcement propaganda pieces. -The Ruby Ridge movie was made for TV that aired in '96 about a disastrously controversial shootout in Idaho in '92 under the Clinton administration. Clinton was President (Head of Executive Branch) from 1992-2000 with Janet Reno as his AG (Head of Justice Department) during that entire period . So while this film was being made, do you think the producers of this movie were given access to the US Marshal, ATF, or FBI agents (all Justice Dept) involved in the intimate planning details of the event so they could get all the government details right? Weak... * By the way, the Justice Department was so anxious to sweep the controversy under the rug that instead of being punished or reprimanded in any way, the 'elite' snipe who mistakenly shot Weaver's unarmed wife in the head through a curtained window while she held her infant -and then perjured himself in sworn court testimony about the incident -was awarded a medal. The bureau's special agent in charge of the overall siege at Ruby Ridge was promoted to Deputy Director of the FBI. No one involved in that debacle was fired or prosecuted in any way. -He says the only thing that's right about the Waco series was the building reproduction, and then proceeds to validate every scene shown. His gripe is that they didn't adequately convey how caring and compassionate the besieging government agents were. Even weaker. In no way were these incidents black and white, good vs. evil. But he certainly makes it seem that way. For all I know, nothing in his own personal performance of duty in the aforementioned events would tarnish his reputation, but this certainly seems like close-ranks-never-narc cop mentality here.
All the guy wanted was for the compassionate side of the agents to be portrayed, how would that be propaganda? Most officers never want to shoot people, to me it seems like portraying compassion would've made it balanced. It's not pro-law enforcement to suggest that agents have feelings and are still human, if you don't see that then perhaps you're the one who's seen too much propaganda
@@AeneasGemini they do have feelings and are still human, that's horrible traits to be had when your whole job revolves around killing people and saving lives. In waco and ruby, all they did was the former and sacrificed the latter for it.
Don't understand how Ruby Ridge and Waco would be considered 'hostage rescue' situations, as no one had been taken hostage in either situation to begin with. If the goal of the 'rescue' team was always to "save as many lives as possible", whose lives exactly were they trying to save when they went in and took the lives of innocent people just living in their homes whom the FBI had raided? Smfh
They counted them as hostages when getting permission to use deadly force, then conveniently changed them to collaborators when implementing deadly force.
@@timgraf6320 you think those children were scared for their lives BECAUSE of their parents? also there were no UNWILLING branch davidians still inside that building, the Feds did such a poor job negotiating that the adults WERE SCARED to leave and especially to give away their kids to the people that have been seiging them forweeks
@@cpi3267 that may be true. I don't think Whitcomb had anything to do with the actual negotiating or strategy though. I could be wrong but I think he was basically just a sniper.
The scene in Civil War doesn’t count because it wasn’t a hostage rescue, they were there to arrest Bucky. Idk about Final Option cuz I haven’t seen it.
Yeah, I'm not on board for comments mocking this guy saying he's a murderer etc. but those were two hallmarks of failures to execute a successful hostage rescue situation.
@@patrickmcdaniel2048 yea but the fbi killed an unarmed woman and 14 year old boy and the family won a $3.1 million settlement from the government. So yeah ruby ridge was a major screwup from the government
Ah yes, career highlights like Ruby Ridge and Waco. Truly feather-in-cap achievements alongside being captain of the Exxon Valdez, and the deputy chief engineer at Chernobyl.
He was there doing his job, not calling the shots. He clearly did not agree with how things went down and he should not bear the burden of regret for those events. The FBI hrt has an excellent track record for successfully resolving extremely difficult situations for decades. Highlighting two failures and implying that anyone present is an incompetent loser is foolish. Things go wrong, the best they can do is train and prepare to stack the odds in their favor.
So the lesson here is this if you make a movie about this man and any operations he was a part of get it right or you'll receive the roasting of a lifetime. 😆
That's pretty true about anything where someone was personally involved. In college, we had to give a mock-briefing on a significant military event and how intelligence factored in to the overall success or failure of said event. My roommate was unlucky enough to be briefing his group's event- the Tet Offensive- when we had a Vietnam vet who was on the receiving end of the Offensive subbing in for our professor. My roommate was factual and clinical about the battle until he made the mistake of saying something to the effect of "from this point on, America was losing the war" when he MEANT America was losing the will to fight the war. The subbed in professor then gave him a lecture on what it was like being part of the Tet Offensive and how, militarily, the US won that battle and continued to smack the VC around from above regularly. Fortunately, his grade was not fully in the hands of the professor so he was fine. I would like to note that later the subbed in professor DID come in (I expect without prodding because he was genuinely that kind of guy) and apologized for letting personal feelings get in the way of an otherwise effective briefing.
I don't see the reason in blaming him for the decisions at Waco and Ruby Ridge when he didn't have any authority in making decisions. He never said he defended the choices made in the two situations, in fact he quite plainly stated that horrible decisions were made and it ended poorly for everyone. He's here to give accurate insight into film scenes and he did that expertly.
Agreed, quit blaming this guy, he was just following orders and I'm sure he wasn't given all the information, we all know how secretive the government is
Most people are not blaming him for either event. But he's actually criticized the Waco movie because it didn't depict them rescuing people. They didn't rescue anyone. Some people ran out of holes but 80 some people died. nothing to brag about. His track record is not good,, if I'm a hostage please don't send this guy.
@r0berito it was not the German soldiers who carry out the holocaust. They had nothing to do with it. It was the Gestapo and the SS who carry the genocide in the concentration camps
The thing about the rescue of Captain Philips was very impressive as four Navy SEAL snipers had to synchronize their shots together. Three of the snipers had their target dialed it, it was the fourth one that they had to wait the longest for, and once the fourth sniper locked in the fourth target, it was when they all shot in perfect sync. It was truly remarkable and testament of their skills. I believe that Jocko, in his breakdown of that scene, said that he thought the commander who ordered the snipers to shoot was micromanaging. From what I recall - this was years ago- the snipers took the shots together without being told. What also made the execution of the pirates was that Philips stayed in the same spot during the entire ordeal and it made the snipers' job a little bit easier. The lifeboat being kept on a leash to the cargo ship, bobbing on the ocean, and the wearing off of khat made the pirates so queasy, it was bound to happen the snipers will send the pirates to meet their maker.
A few more movie hostage rescues I'd recommend for analysis: Robocop, Universal Soldier, Executive Decision, Munich, Navy SEALs, Heat, Speed, The Untouchables, The Way of the Gun, and Dog Day Afternoon.
It sounds like he didn’t actually lead and plan the raid itself. He said other people decided to start the raid when it did. I assume he was just leading his team or something like that
@@themanwithallthewrongopini3551 matter of the fact is that he’s objectively a failure at being on HRT. Both operations resulted in the worst possible outcomes for a hostage rescue. Look at Waco, all the kids died, he failed entirely
@@Chungus581 We don’t blame the horses that carried SS officers to the death camps. We shouldn’t put them as guilty if they were just a cog in the machine.
@@themanwithallthewrongopini3551 you cant negate responsibility for wrongdoing by negating blame to another participant, all directly involved in an operation, especially the one behind a gun, are responsible for what went wrong. as example if your superior orders you shoot the children of radicals so that their parents don't become martyrs to them, and you do it. you still carry just as much blame as your superiors of killing children, because you had the choice to not follow immoral orders and you discarded that option.
I am not sure if ATF was at the actual Ruby Ridge raid. They did start the investigation of Weaver and charged him with selling sawed-off shotguns to an informant after Weaver refused to become a Government informant.
"we were there to relay information back to the command center" (Ruby Ridge) "Yeah, the only thing that's realistic is he shot the glass pane on the door with a curtain behind it" (interesting way to relay information?) "Ultimately we are there to try and save lives." (by shooting at a house instead of gathering information?) I would never list my involvement with Ruby Ridge or Waco as a credential.
Can we just appreciate the fact this guy LITERALLY had movies made about HIM and his team. He’s one of the people, when you read “based off real events”? That’s him. He’s the guy. How HECKING cool is that?!
"You can see here the sniper takes out a woman for no reason and then they set some children on fire. 10/10. Just like real life." - Ruby Ridge & Waco Guy
Branch Davidians started the fire but fbi knew they would because they overheard the plan from bugs but held all the innocents inside with gunfire to prove ATFs value
@@sonataker People leave this part out and blame him for everything despite him literally saying they wanted to save lives and they could of but just weren't allowed to.
Great video: 10/10. Handsome man, well spoken, lots of movie and real-life references. Comment section: 3/10. Too many people shaming a man for being part of a complex, large-scale operation that failed instead of focusing on the video content. Whether in real life or on the internet, s*** happens.
I was a designated marksman in the direct action platoon in force recon, depending on the situation when we did MIO(maritime interdiction operation) taking ships at see we had both Helo insertion and overwatch with zodiacs bringing more in at the fantail. Caving ladders were used to get up into the main deck of the ship and men fast roped into the command deck. In all clearing and taking command of the ship took some time. Giant cargo ships have so many hiding places plus you have to find what they were trying to smuggle in country. Lots of fun!! Man I miss it sometimes!!
One of the Navy Seals that took one of the shots said on a podcast that it was probably the easiest shot he ever took in his life.... Check it out on Mike Drop Podcast Episode 65!
@@kyartick8502 I don't think he was talking about the shot being an easy one to make, but rather an easy decision to make the shot. You see a guy threatening an innocent and bam!
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Cedric Cameron nice fake account, made the same day as the “person” “you” replied to
ROFLOL Omgosh I can't breathe 🤣🤣 I love it
I mean try to stay alive man.
@Weston Yehuda Wow I just tried it, it didnt work but my girlfriend found out and dumped me because of that attempted violation of her privacy!!
@Eventual Visitor you want to be careful bad mouthing them man they're scary hacker bois
“Including Ruby Ridge and Waco” .... might leave that off the resume.
I was thinking the same! Doesn’t lend to successful credibility.
He explained what the mistake was at waco
I was going to comment this exact same thing.
The dumbass decisions weren't made by him. If anything, it adds to his credibility that he doesn't tow the company line on those two disasters.
I respect the honesty lol
“You gotta improvise, adapt, overcome”
... ah, a man of culture
You beat me to it... Well, actually a lot of people caught this, but you got the most likes. Yeah Waco and Ruby Ridge aren't exactly the two best examples I'd use first to cite how great of a HRT team member I am, at saving people. Like applying to be a baseball right fielder and at your interview, you show yourself dropping a sheet of paper in a parking lot, and then doing that awkward jacked up jog people do in the attempt to catch it, accidentally kicking it a few times in the process.
Same, beat me to it.
Modern problems require modern solutions
I was searching your answer
@@doc325 Yup. I agree. It'd be like an engineer bragging that he designed the Hindenburg and then went on to Captain the Titanic.
I thought it was a joke at first tbh.
Good comment!
Man has some stones to admit to having a hand in Ruby Ridge and Waco seeing as both situations are controversial to say the least
@@immortalehal9150 that sickened these brave men who wanted to save the hostages - it was our insane government who held them back - read his book - you will understand their anguish.
Two albeit horrible failures against a career of saving people from horrible situations. I thank the man for his service. I wish that those situations ended differently but we can't change the past.
Stones, no. More like tone deaf arrogance.
@@immortalehal9150, the cult leader burned the house down and shot those unwilling to die for him.
@@Phil-ui4tm that's what the government says. CYA. Keep pushing their narrative for them.
This guy's first hand stories are far more interesting than his comments on Hollywood portrayals.
Exactly!
The villain's story usually is.
FBI HRT is basically the domestic version of Delta Force and they both train together.
Did he cover the kids he is DIRECTLY responsible for killing?
@@ElementsRook i mean he was a sniper so no he wasnt directly directly responsible. But whatever.
imagine crawling into a hornets nest and not making a sound or sudden movement when they sting the shit out of you. that's some inhuman levels of focus.
Those guys are not human. Meanwhile I’m bothered by a paper cut…
I took out plenty of nests and they rarely sting
@@paulwhat322 Since he needed to exfil for medical treatment, I'm guessing he got stung.
Well, would you make a sound in that situation? It's not a backyard barbecue they were having there.
I remember when I was about 10, sitting in church with my dad, and he swatted at his pant leg by his knee a few times. I asked, "what's wrong, Daddy?", and he told me to be quiet and pay attention to the sermon. He was stung four times on the knee area. We found out that day that he was allergic to stings. His leg swelled up, and he could barely walk, but he limped out of church and drove to the hospital.
Not nearly the level of what was mentioned here, but I was pretty impressed.
The SECOND he said he was at Ruby Ridge and Waco I SPRINTED to the comments knowing they'd be gold
It is gold!
Yeah this guy along with the rest of the killers should be rounded up and put on a firing line. Dude is a murderer.
Same
Hopefully you put on your HAZMAT suit first!! Lot of amateur historians who know exactly what happened
He actually had a perfect headshot of Koresh when he was doing overwatch at Waco for the HRT. He still debates to this day not taking the shot.
Him pulling out all those weapons out of nowhere made me laugh out loud for some reason.
Same
Gotta give him props for rating the movie clip he was actually in a 10/10 😆
and he gave 0/10 to a supposed true to life movie that he participated in real life :D
heheh, yeah, the moment he mentioned that he was in the clip, I thought: He'll give this a 10.
@@jansandman6983 because it wasn't a good hostage rescue
@@KingNerdius yeah i humbly know that. it was a complete fu bar. our policemen has studied its failure, though im from the army, but yes. what u said is true
Plus he gave to his credits burning a bunch of little kids to death at WACO. This dude knows what he's talking about.
Chris Whitcomb: Breaks down each scene with an objective critique of methods used
Waco Siege: "I'm not going to talk about what went right, what went wrong"
Yeah that put a super bad taste in my mouth about this dude
He did highlight an element ppl don’t often consider. By waiting them out and pushing the Davidians to a point of desperation, you’re inviting extreme reactions under a different mindset. When ppl have hope they’re far more compliant.
He can’t act outside the AGs orders. It’s the essence of military life.
Can't give objective critique in a situation he was involved in. But he did state multiple things he was upset at during the actual thing.
@@LordSluggo or murdering unarmed women too
@@Menuki He forgot to mention when the feds and atf murdered a dudes wife and kid. They also arrested him for selling short barreled shotguns they gave him, he was found innocent after a raid on his home killed his wife and kid. That’s pretty fucked.
Now we need a former hostage individual to react to people being rescued as well.
I skimmed the video title, saw “Former FBI Hostage” and immediately thought “wow they really went there”
Maybe they could find one of the children that didn't get burned alive in the branch davidian raid to tell everyone what they experienced, I'm sure there would be more than happy to help.
Don't forget the hostage taker to make the full triology
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@@watercarepro9610 if you've seen the movie Tibido is still alive
"I'm a negotiating and hostage rescue expert."
"I was at Ruby Ridge and Waco."
You have to pick one, my man.
Came here for this comment.
I'm pretty sure he has other stuff on his resume besides those two events.
Honestly, that opening phrase destroyed any care I had to even watch the video. It's not often I see someone so quickly obliterate any possible respect I could have for them, but damn did he do it.
Neither incident was a hostage rescue. Both were completely bungled by the ATF.
Amazed he was willing to put his name against waco. Was a shit show on their end
Did you not see what he said about it though? Clearly they weren't able to do what they felt was right but had to wait for authorisation, maybe because it was so widely publicised decisions became too bureaucratic
Same with Ruby Ridge.
Agreed
@@jamiesmith3259 With Wako there are different versions of the event. It's disputed. The FBI obviously don't want to take any blame. This guy is being loyal to his crew. Before you start I don't have a dog in this fight I don't have a strong opinion either way about the events. Just saying there's more than one version of events and if the film went with a version that reflects badly on the FBI then of course he is going to dislike it.
@@edmann1820 not going to start, I wasn't there so my knowledge is just on hearsay, of course he's not going to want to accept blame but it's also totally feasible that red tape didn't help. We'll never know.
Ruby Ridge and Waco...not exactly highlights of a resume
@ they literally used entrapment to get the family at RR to have a sawed off shotgun. They convinced the guy to break the law who otherwise wouldn’t have and then Lon Horiuchi made the decision to shoot the woman in the head while she held her infant. No higher up told them to shoot the mother
Tristan Lane imagine thinking acting shifty or aggressive warrants death lol
At least he is honest about it and talks about it
@ that’s a lot of words to call yourself a bootlicker…. Children were burned to death….
@@adricgeorge8417 The atf had to burn children to death because the cult was a danger to the children
For reference, Waco had both the FBI and the ATF present heavily involved in the siege, while the Ruby Ridges siege had FBI do much more of the grunt work at ground level. This should give you all the context you need as to why an FBI HRT guy was (relatively) more open about why Waco was such a fuckup but said very little about Ruby Ridges.
Wasn't Ruby Ridge like half of the alphabet gang. FBI, ATF, USMS and Secret Service. Basically half the glowing agencies involved. Interesting also how an official from the DOJ basically confirmed wrong doing by the agencies involved in the civil suit that was settled out of court by stating that if they had gone to trial they would have probably won the full amount they wanted.
@chaosvolt7771: Both were huge screw ups and murder. 75 people died at waco (25 which were children). They could of arrested Koresh any day he went jogging up the road but they wanted to do the raid because ATF was due to have a huge budget cut so they wanted to show they are needed.
@@letsgobrandon7297 yep can't have that... they were within 6 months of each other too.
@@letsgobrandon7297 And we can't forget that the fuckups at Waco and Ruby Ridge led to Tim McVeigh blowing up a federal building
after seeing him picking up various weapons from a desk I thought he might have a grenade launcher somewhere in a fridge
ATF and HRT seemed really upset about Waco when posing photos in front of the burnt down building.
you'll see photos of national guard posing with stuff from waco as well - i think a lot of it is simply just guys who were in the rear and had no part in it seeing cool stuff and going "wow this'll make for a good photo"
and it's no different than iraq or afghanistan veterans as well
@@Rogue_Nine416 Lol you serious?
You mean the new head of the ATF?
@@mattb7076 that’s was photoshopped
@@MrOhman86 Uh, no there is a photo of him in front of the burned out buildings at Waco. In his uniform.
I love that the two “highlights” of this guys career are two of the biggest hostage blunders in fbi history.
How are those his Highlights ? Did He say that ?
@@oskarzimmermann2 He specifically mentioned those incidents in his introduction. He did not mention any other operations with which he was involved in his introduction, therefore suggesting those are particularly important ones.
@@ElJulioso He mentions them because He knows thats what people want to know... Says nothing about that beeing a Highlight of His career. I am Sure a man this Long in the Job has handled a Situation before were less then 26 Kids have died
Lmao true
@@oskarzimmermann2 You have the random capitalization of a Trump voter. No judgement, am I correct?
R6 players: *FURIOUSLY TAKING NOTES*
Nah we just Fuze and pray
Just play bomb
lol you kidding?! i was cringing at their shit tactics, every guy running up to windows like they are montey and then being surprised they all got fucked up but familys with a little common sense
Not enough tk'ing in this video.
@@tuneles now it’s just flash bang repeat over and over again
"Australian Rappelling" is called Karabiner run-down in Australia - or at least by the SASR who taught it as part of reservist training. To make it more exciting we had to construct our personal body harnesses out of twine! Never has correct knot tying been of such importance to me :-)
Knot tying isn't a big deal - as long as you prefer the fast route down.
Personally, I prefer to take my time getting down, at least a few seconds longer than the fast way.
It's one of the most fun things I've ever done.
The bad guy in that Captain America scene was also former DGSE (French CIA), and French SOF are also known for 'Assault Rappelling' face-down, so the expert in this case is wrong about technique there. It makes sense though that FBI-HRT would know they can safely rappel face-up because they plan all their breaches to a T, and secure the ground before going in. But SOF may not always know if the ground is secure, and want to keep their guns pointed forward so they're not caught butt-in-the-air with a hostile below.
Our scout platoon guys would jump off of the tower with slack and try to see who could bounce closest to the ground using Ausie style. We tied ALL of our own "swift seats" and for Ausie, it was just a doubled up 12' rope with a square not and two half hitches. Snap link in back. We did improvised rappelling with no harness. The rope is just wrapped around your body.
@@Yvaelle that part is what some people have a hard time to grasp- what is the difference between hostage rescue, which is basically a police business - and a military operation. The entire philosophy is different, even though the weaponry and the look may be similar.
FBI- throws incendiary tear gas in a flammable structure.
Building-catches fire
FBI- surprised pikachu face
A building they cut electrical power to so the entire building was filled with candles and lanterns....
@@joewelch4933 and no running water....
And whole site demolished within a month........
Yeah, nothing to see here. Trust the government.
Not to mention driving tanks into a buildings structure causing it's collapse onto people inside, trapping them. Not as he asserted to let people out.
I love how he dances around the fact that the shot at Ruby Ridge hit a woman holding a baby. You can blame Janet Reno and the ATF for how Waco turned out.
Janet reno and the atf would have no power had the agents stood down
If you mean at like 13:45, The only mention of a shotgun during the whole siege was when the ATF claimed they were sold a few by one of the weavers.
@@stuffzie8329 I said *shot,* not shotgun. The ATF dude shot a woman with a rifle while she was holding a baby. They were mad at the home owner because the wouldn't go undercover for them with these white supremacists that lived near by and he wouldn't do it so they busted him for trying to sell some shotguns that didn't have 18" barrels. I've looked all over and can't find anything as to just how short was too short. They might have been 10" or they might have been 17.75" for all we know. Based on how the whole thing panned out, it was likely more towards the later.
@@jacobstaten2366 It should also be said that they induced him to make those short barreled shotguns in the first place. He was eventually acquitted of the charges on the grounds of entrapment. So the FBI attempted to pressure a man into involving himself in a dangerous undercover operation, tricked him into violating the NFA, then murdered his wife and children, and he was ultimately found not guilty at the end of the whole thing. Waco is debatable, but anyone who defends the actions of the feds at Ruby Ridge is either blind or stupid and probably both.
Not to mention they shot the young boy and the family dog.
We don't forget...
*watches exactly 30 seconds*
OOF
comments are gonna be fantastic on this one boys
Was surprised to see comments are on
Ruby Ridge and Waco. Nice work.
Yup, nothing like executing American civilians by the government!
Stopped watching immediately after he said that
@@CYCHIATRIC Yeah, he could have rounded out the trifecta with The Bombing Of Western Philadelphia.
Ooof. Don’t know if I’d lead by saying, “I was part of Ruby Ridge and Waco”…
“Including Ruby Ridge and Waco” oof. What's the next video? "I was a secret service agent in 1963"?
"Why are they protecting the president don't they know you slow down and give potential snipers better shots and one of your own randomly has an ND that also hits the president seriously unrealistic"
lmao that would be hilarious
That's not a fair assessment about secret service in 1963 because the president wanted to campaign from a open top convertible. Now days because of what happened that day the president can't be allowed to travel in such accommodations. Back in the 1960's the president can make that a standing order and secret service would not have been able to override.
@@808INFantry11X Yeah right, actually look up what happened that day.
@@cpi3267 I did but what your not taking into account us what you didn't see this wasn't on camera the security vulnerabilities existed long before JFK was even born. Look at president Harry Truman, Dwight D Eisenhower who had all conducted some of their visits in open topped convertibles. The president back then used to be able to leverage this out of secret service.
All films discussed:
0:33 Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014)
2:53 Captain Phillips (2013)
4:07 Die Hard (1988)
5:13 6 Days (2017)
7:52 The Dark Knight (2008)
8:46 The Taking Of Pelham 123 (2009)
10:33 Patriots Day (2016)
12:52 NCIS S7E9 (2009)
14:10 The Siege At Ruby Ridge (1996)
16:09 WACO S1E6 (2018)
I feel like he would have had that arsenal within arm's reach regardless of the interview.
I love how he just suddenly summoned a shotgun lol
Their chief weapons are:
1) surprise
2) fear
3) ruthless efficiency
4) almost fanatical devotion to their job
5) nice black uniforms
And then plan B: shoot mothers holding their infants, and burn 2 dozen children alive over a $25 fine.
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
6) expert family dog shooters
you forgot the comfy chair
Sounds like a fascist oath breaker to me.
When he said about Ruby Ridge I did think…’wait, didn’t that go really badly and a woman was killed in a situation at best described as poor decision making’
Dog, son, missed infant daughter and took out wife. Then thinking they killed the daughter (or maybe not) kept asking what Vicki was making him for breakfast over loudspeakers.
If this guy rates the Waco and Ruby Ridge movies as zeroes I wonder what he rates what really happened.
If you are interested you can read his book Cold Zero. He discusses both events and his perspective of them
@@boilerkim1530 I heard the audiobook when I was a little kid, as I recall he blamed everything on Clinton.
@@stephen3762 The audiobook is really different. Whole chapters are missing in the audiobook. My interpretation is he feels most of the blame lies with the perpetrators, which one would expect from a G man. I felt like he only blames Clinton for not defending his people, which would include the FBI and Janet Reno
@@boilerkim1530 Lol. Randy Weaver just wanted to be left in peace in the middle of nowhere. Fed agents came on his land and killed his wife, son, and dog. The gov't were the perpetrators. Sounds like you didn't even look into this stuff.
@@stephen3762 I was simply passing on to you my recollection of the book and Whitcomb's perspective as I remember it. You can do with it what you will.
would have liked to see him talk about The Negotiator with Sam Jackson.
And Kevin Spacey as The actual Negotiator
Love that movie.
@@RichO1701e Perhaps that is the clincher; we mustn't mention Kevin Spacey.
@@fhlostonparaphrase Exactly, that's why I focussed on Sam.
Sam Jackson wouldn't take very kindly to it.
"I don't remember asking you a goddamn thing."
14:38 Leaves out the part where the wife was bodied by the sniper while she was holding a baby....
Let that sink in.
and
.......that minor omitted fact is no real big deal compared to the fact this made for tv movie falsely and outrageouly depicted his FBI sniper colleague standing behind a tree.
@@jacklnu1614 he conveniently left out the part where his team and colleagues took selfies with burning kids at Waco too, a bunch of scumbags.
@@ClayYZ250f I am not sure whether you are being sarcastic. Assuming you are not, do you have any evidence that occurred? Selfies were not a thing back in 1993 since smart phones did not exist. If you are being sarcastic, LOL!
@@jacklnu1614 see back in the nineties we had these things called cameras. You would take a picture then take the film to the store to be developed.
12:28 "...also if I need to go to the toilet I have this gun (pulls out a silenced Mac10). And I have this under my pillow (pulls out a .44 Magnum)"
All things considered, wouldn't you have a s#@# ton of weaponry near you at all times if you where him?
Hostage rescue expert- lI was involved in Waco and ruby ridge..........”
Yeah I probably wouldn’t have opened up the video with that info....
Instantly disliked him based upon that sentence
@@RecklessAndroid33 Bit weird given he had nothing to do with either event going tits up but ok.
@@RecklessAndroid33 i iNsTanTlY dIsLiKeD HiM
Why not? He knows that people are going to respect him a thousand times more if he starts with the fact that he was involved in those controversial events than if he were to hide that fact from the viewers.
Patrick, we saved the hostages!
"You wouldn't fire an automatic weapon with civilians around" says the guy who participated in Waco and Ruby Ridge.
yeah, that line didn't age well in these minutes the clip took to play out.
And situations like that are where he learned the importance of why you don't do that. Learning from failure only makes those lessons more valuable
They didn't fire an automatic weapon at Waco or Ruby Ridge though.
At Ruby Ridge one person was killed by a sniper shot from the FBI Hostage Response Team (a few others had died earlier on in an incident involving US Marshals). At Waco they pumped the building full of tear gas until it caught fire. I don't believe the FBI fired on anyone inside.
The point he was making in that segment is that you wouldn't lay down suppressing fire with a machine gun from a helicopter with civilians present. If you were going to take a shot at all, it would be a sniper shot.
So? Did he shoot at them?
At 9:07 that's the most impressed I've ever been in awhile. No matter what you train, nothing's gonna prepare you for getting fk'd by a swarm of angry hornets. Dude just takes the beating? Wtf man
Those stories were not the only ones, many sniper been to Middle East have similar
the hornet story seemed fake though.
the hornet story seemed fake though. the sniper would have just retreated.
The irony of someone who was at Waco saying "knowing when and how to pull a trigger"
Pretty sure being in those situations would teach the value of that
He is an expert sniper he will take out your dog at a thousand yards
@@bertbccfu9564 that one I do believe he could
I love how he gives the movie he is starring in a 10/10.
He’s not starring in anything
@@gothicherie6691 he gave the movie he is in a 10/10.
Because it was accurate.
@@Hello-og Because it's what he agreed with, hence the 0 on both waco and ruby movies
@@rubberduck8594 Well one of the 3
ex-FBI agent rating movies how real it is (pulls out gun) oh damn he strapped 🤣
It's good to hear about the frustration from the people on the ground at Waco, basically having to try to save lives while blindfolded and one hand ties behind your back. Before hearing stories like Chris's, I assumed everyone was on the same page about building up a small army with the pretence of rescue. Now I know differently
Yeah, I don't get the comments against this man in particular for being there - it's like blaming a ship engine expert for how the captain pushed the throttle and wrecked the ship directly into a mountain.
@ctakitimu: You have no idea what your talking about. These pos evil cowards did the raid when they could of arrested Koresh when he did his daily jogging but no. They needed this raid because huge budget cut was coming to ATF. It will make u sick if u knew the whole truth.
@@leob_v2 you really gonna defend the guy who shot randy weaver's wife at ruby ridge and posed with his .50 cal rifle in the smoldering ashes of waco?
@@johnwayne9828 He's not because a, he did not shoot randy weaver's wife and b, im pretty he wasn't the one posing with the .50 cal, so i think you need to check your facts.
@@name5798 he certainly did pose with his .50 cal, check your facts.
Using this guy to rate these movies is like using Harold Shipman to rate Medical Dramas
or Fred West to rate home DIY programmes lol
I'd love to see him do the same with video game missions and cutscenes of a similar type, like the killhouse tutorial from the original Modern Warfare
I would have loved to hear more of his opinion on other countries operation. For example the movie about the retaking of flight 8969 by GIGN operators. Hope there'll be another episode.
Or the movie about the retaking of the Landshut.
I would have loved to have not seen him at all
The GIGN are fkn hardcore, they've only lost what? 8 dudes ever and it was in training (357 mag at point blank can in fact stop your heart) the media is forbidden from taking their picture and the penalties of that are ambiguous. Almost makes me wish I was French.
Sure, but with a different guy. This guy blows.
@@Anarchristian_Beanz im part of the Gendarmerie now and have 4 years left to do before trying to join the "Groupe" tbh he is the perfect guy for the situation cause most of people when it came that to those case just avoid talking altogether (RAID never mentionned how they fucked up hyper cacher and st denis assault and it was really bad all the injured where du to fraternal fire) at least he is honest, knows more than any other cops i met and cause he had 10 times more "hot" intervention than most swat guys combined
Can you guys do a "Nuclear Engineer Rates Radiation/Meltdown scenes in movies"? I have contacts I can get you in touch with
There’ e been a few of those, I think. It’s not a subject Hollywood tends to depict very accurately...
Email them
He looks like Benedict Cumberbatch in his old photos
Lol
YASS IM YOUR 99 LIKE
Plot twist... Benedict Cumberbatch is Benjamin Button
Him acting like Waco wasn’t the atf’s fault
Try to learn things, before talking about them 🤦
@@springbloom5940 The ATF decided to murder innocent children and women.
It was *entirely* the state's fault. They fucked up the operation and escalated it, to the point of murdering innocent people. Go learn some history you donkey.
@@springbloom5940 explain how it was the family at RR’s fault or for what reason the Branch Davidians needed to be raided/why, assuming Koresch needed to be arrested, they didn’t get him on his morning run? Or why they removed evidence from the compound afterwards or why they threw flammable gas into an area filled with kids and lied about the Davidians modifying an AK’s upper receiver which doesn’t exist, AK’s have no upper receiver they simply have a single receiver.
@Zach Ball
I guarantee I know more about Waco than you. Absolutely, 100%.
@@springbloom5940 How so?
Openly admits to being apart of Ruby Ridge and Waco. I was half expecting him to admit to killing Pat Tillman.
Next video, "ATF Agent reacts to Dog Movies."
Criminally underrated comment.
the story about the hornet nest just freaked me out, like i would die
Die Hard is a Christmas Movie
I have great respect for the skills and discipline of HRT troopers. Rangers, SEALs, SF and Delta guys speak very highly of their professionalism and consummate competence.
That being said, the his comments about Ruby Ridge and Waco really made me cringe. Many people involved, including HRT guys, have previously spoken to how screwed up it all was - especially how they were sent in to clean up ATF's messes. But Mr. Whitcomb basically blasts these movies for not being pro-law enforcement propaganda pieces.
-The Ruby Ridge movie was made for TV that aired in '96 about a disastrously controversial shootout in Idaho in '92 under the Clinton administration. Clinton was President (Head of Executive Branch) from 1992-2000 with Janet Reno as his AG (Head of Justice Department) during that entire period . So while this film was being made, do you think the producers of this movie were given access to the US Marshal, ATF, or FBI agents (all Justice Dept) involved in the intimate planning details of the event so they could get all the government details right? Weak...
* By the way, the Justice Department was so anxious to sweep the controversy under the rug that instead of being punished or reprimanded in any way, the 'elite' snipe who mistakenly shot Weaver's unarmed wife in the head through a curtained window while she held her infant -and then perjured himself in sworn court testimony about the incident -was awarded a medal. The bureau's special agent in charge of the overall siege at Ruby Ridge was promoted to Deputy Director of the FBI. No one involved in that debacle was fired or prosecuted in any way.
-He says the only thing that's right about the Waco series was the building reproduction, and then proceeds to validate every scene shown. His gripe is that they didn't adequately convey how caring and compassionate the besieging government agents were. Even weaker.
In no way were these incidents black and white, good vs. evil. But he certainly makes it seem that way. For all I know, nothing in his own personal performance of duty in the aforementioned events would tarnish his reputation, but this certainly seems like close-ranks-never-narc cop mentality here.
All the guy wanted was for the compassionate side of the agents to be portrayed, how would that be propaganda? Most officers never want to shoot people, to me it seems like portraying compassion would've made it balanced.
It's not pro-law enforcement to suggest that agents have feelings and are still human, if you don't see that then perhaps you're the one who's seen too much propaganda
@@AeneasGemini “all the guy wanted?” 😆
@@AeneasGemini they do have feelings and are still human, that's horrible traits to be had when your whole job revolves around killing people and saving lives.
In waco and ruby, all they did was the former and sacrificed the latter for it.
Don't understand how Ruby Ridge and Waco would be considered 'hostage rescue' situations, as no one had been taken hostage in either situation to begin with. If the goal of the 'rescue' team was always to "save as many lives as possible", whose lives exactly were they trying to save when they went in and took the lives of innocent people just living in their homes whom the FBI had raided? Smfh
They counted them as hostages when getting permission to use deadly force, then conveniently changed them to collaborators when implementing deadly force.
ikr, they were serving a warrant, not hostage rescuing.
For Waco, he stated that children in the compound and unwilling Branch Davidians were to be considered as hostages.
@@timgraf6320 you think those children were scared for their lives BECAUSE of their parents? also there were no UNWILLING branch davidians still inside that building, the Feds did such a poor job negotiating that the adults WERE SCARED to leave and especially to give away their kids to the people that have been seiging them forweeks
@@cpi3267 that may be true. I don't think Whitcomb had anything to do with the actual negotiating or strategy though. I could be wrong but I think he was basically just a sniper.
Chris, I love Cold Zero, read it about 10 years ago and I will have to break it out again!! Fellow Granite Stater, keep up the great work!!
I wish he had done the Final Option, and the scene in Civil War where GSG9 went in after Bucky while Cap was there.
The scene in Civil War doesn’t count because it wasn’t a hostage rescue, they were there to arrest Bucky. Idk about Final Option cuz I haven’t seen it.
I love how he said ruby ridge and Waco like those weren’t both huge blunders on behalf of the FBI negotiators
Or he said ruby ridge and waco because they're the most well-known?
Yeah, I'm not on board for comments mocking this guy saying he's a murderer etc. but those were two hallmarks of failures to execute a successful hostage rescue situation.
@@abermen there weren't any hostages at Ruby Ridge though
@@patrickmcdaniel2048 yea but the fbi killed an unarmed woman and 14 year old boy and the family won a $3.1 million settlement from the government. So yeah ruby ridge was a major screwup from the government
@@patrickmcdaniel2048 There were women and children that were not a threat, some of whom were killed by authorities.
I like how you only mentioned how you did 2 botched, infamous raids
This FBI dude who was at Waco: "We don't shoot from helicopters."
Me: "Uhh, I'm pretty sure there is enough evidence to suggest otherwise at Waco."
I believe he specified that they don't shoot with automatic weapons
Ah yes, career highlights like Ruby Ridge and Waco. Truly feather-in-cap achievements alongside being captain of the Exxon Valdez, and the deputy chief engineer at Chernobyl.
"Hi, I'm a financial advisor and accountant, and I use to work for Enron, Bernie Madoff, Lehman Brothers..."
You forgot bring the partner of theros
He was there doing his job, not calling the shots. He clearly did not agree with how things went down and he should not bear the burden of regret for those events.
The FBI hrt has an excellent track record for successfully resolving extremely difficult situations for decades. Highlighting two failures and implying that anyone present is an incompetent loser is foolish. Things go wrong, the best they can do is train and prepare to stack the odds in their favor.
@ryand.3858 As an aside, which kind of boot is your favorite to lick?
Idk if being involved with Ruby Ridge and Waco is something I would brag about.
So the lesson here is this if you make a movie about this man and any operations he was a part of get it right or you'll receive the roasting of a lifetime. 😆
That's pretty true about anything where someone was personally involved. In college, we had to give a mock-briefing on a significant military event and how intelligence factored in to the overall success or failure of said event. My roommate was unlucky enough to be briefing his group's event- the Tet Offensive- when we had a Vietnam vet who was on the receiving end of the Offensive subbing in for our professor. My roommate was factual and clinical about the battle until he made the mistake of saying something to the effect of "from this point on, America was losing the war" when he MEANT America was losing the will to fight the war. The subbed in professor then gave him a lecture on what it was like being part of the Tet Offensive and how, militarily, the US won that battle and continued to smack the VC around from above regularly. Fortunately, his grade was not fully in the hands of the professor so he was fine. I would like to note that later the subbed in professor DID come in (I expect without prodding because he was genuinely that kind of guy) and apologized for letting personal feelings get in the way of an otherwise effective briefing.
Your obviously to young to remember those events or your not from the U.S
@@aewhatever Right on both counts actually.
@@NIGHTSTALKER973 yeah ok so excuse me no ones gonna listen to ur opinion then
I don't see the reason in blaming him for the decisions at Waco and Ruby Ridge when he didn't have any authority in making decisions. He never said he defended the choices made in the two situations, in fact he quite plainly stated that horrible decisions were made and it ended poorly for everyone. He's here to give accurate insight into film scenes and he did that expertly.
Agreed, quit blaming this guy, he was just following orders and I'm sure he wasn't given all the information, we all know how secretive the government is
I don't see the reason in blaming German soldiers for the decisions at Auschwitz and Birkenau when they didn't have any authority in making decisions.
Most people are not blaming him for either event. But he's actually criticized the Waco movie because it didn't depict them rescuing people. They didn't rescue anyone. Some people ran out of holes but 80 some people died. nothing to brag about. His track record is not good,, if I'm a hostage please don't send this guy.
@@bjt81366 He didn't give it a bad rating due to inaccuracies, he gave it a low rating because it was completely accurate
@r0berito it was not the German soldiers who carry out the holocaust. They had nothing to do with it. It was the Gestapo and the SS who carry the genocide in the concentration camps
The thing about the rescue of Captain Philips was very impressive as four Navy SEAL snipers had to synchronize their shots together. Three of the snipers had their target dialed it, it was the fourth one that they had to wait the longest for, and once the fourth sniper locked in the fourth target, it was when they all shot in perfect sync. It was truly remarkable and testament of their skills. I believe that Jocko, in his breakdown of that scene, said that he thought the commander who ordered the snipers to shoot was micromanaging. From what I recall - this was years ago- the snipers took the shots together without being told. What also made the execution of the pirates was that Philips stayed in the same spot during the entire ordeal and it made the snipers' job a little bit easier. The lifeboat being kept on a leash to the cargo ship, bobbing on the ocean, and the wearing off of khat made the pirates so queasy, it was bound to happen the snipers will send the pirates to meet their maker.
A few more movie hostage rescues I'd recommend for analysis: Robocop, Universal Soldier, Executive Decision, Munich, Navy SEALs, Heat, Speed, The Untouchables, The Way of the Gun, and Dog Day Afternoon.
Not too inspiring when the two examples he gives were massive failures...
Success in the governments eyes
It sounds like he didn’t actually lead and plan the raid itself. He said other people decided to start the raid when it did. I assume he was just leading his team or something like that
@@themanwithallthewrongopini3551 matter of the fact is that he’s objectively a failure at being on HRT. Both operations resulted in the worst possible outcomes for a hostage rescue. Look at Waco, all the kids died, he failed entirely
@@Chungus581 We don’t blame the horses that carried SS officers to the death camps. We shouldn’t put them as guilty if they were just a cog in the machine.
@@themanwithallthewrongopini3551 you cant negate responsibility for wrongdoing by negating blame to another participant, all directly involved in an operation, especially the one behind a gun, are responsible for what went wrong. as example if your superior orders you shoot the children of radicals so that their parents don't become martyrs to them, and you do it. you still carry just as much blame as your superiors of killing children, because you had the choice to not follow immoral orders and you discarded that option.
I like action movies generally, but when it is easy to tell something is ridiculous it takes away from the scene
Ruby ridge and Waco are not good things to be on your resume
He was part of ruby ridge Idaho. The most notorious failure by FBI, Marshals and ATF.
And waco, possibly even worse (definitely worse in terms of casualties)
I am not sure if ATF was at the actual Ruby Ridge raid. They did start the investigation of Weaver and charged him with selling sawed-off shotguns to an informant after Weaver refused to become a Government informant.
"we were there to relay information back to the command center" (Ruby Ridge)
"Yeah, the only thing that's realistic is he shot the glass pane on the door with a curtain behind it" (interesting way to relay information?)
"Ultimately we are there to try and save lives." (by shooting at a house instead of gathering information?)
I would never list my involvement with Ruby Ridge or Waco as a credential.
I'm glad he did, tells us what kind of person he is.
@@skyblue2708 Yes, it tells us he's an honest person who owns their mistakes, unlike a coward who would be too scared to learn from them.
Shame on you!!!
It's like he was proud of Waco and ruby ridge
Advise: it's not easy irl
So is spelling "advice" correctly, apparently
@@user11539 not in the USA
@@hihooman Advice and advise are two different words, US or otherwise. Advice is what you give or receive (noun). Advise is what you do (verb).
@@malindemunich2883 thank you, learnt a thing today.
@@user11539 advise, the verb is spelled with an 'S'.
Can we just appreciate the fact this guy LITERALLY had movies made about HIM and his team.
He’s one of the people, when you read “based off real events”?
That’s him.
He’s the guy.
How HECKING cool is that?!
WACO ain't cool buddy
@@ibrahimmbaye4981 or ruby ridge
"you wouldn't fire an automatic weapon from a helicopter"
Every helo gunner: "Am I a joke to you?"
"You can see here the sniper takes out a woman for no reason and then they set some children on fire. 10/10. Just like real life."
- Ruby Ridge & Waco Guy
Branch Davidians started the fire but fbi knew they would because they overheard the plan from bugs but held all the innocents inside with gunfire to prove ATFs value
I like how you say that Waco isn’t accurate but then point out absolutely no falsehoods and pretty much just tell us to trust you on it
tells you more about what he's not allowed to say, than what he's saying
he said it didn't depict the guys on the ground priority to save lives
@@sonataker People leave this part out and blame him for everything despite him literally saying they wanted to save lives and they could of but just weren't allowed to.
I would love to hear this gentleman's take on "The Negotiator" and "Raid on Entebbe"
I was also hoping he would do Entebbe
I would love to hear about him standing toe to toe with Randy Weaver with out his badge or gun
Great video: 10/10. Handsome man, well spoken, lots of movie and real-life references.
Comment section: 3/10. Too many people shaming a man for being part of a complex, large-scale operation that failed instead of focusing on the video content.
Whether in real life or on the internet, s*** happens.
I think it is more people venting their frustrations with those operations and him not calling them out for what they were in hindsight.
Everyone in the comments seems to think they are an expert tactician
I see Richard Branson has finally cut his hair... and joined the FBI
My first reaction to saw him is to search the comment for Richard Branson.
Ruby Ridge was a siege, not a hostage situation. There was nobody in need of rescuing on that property.
Did he say it was a HT op?
Agreed. You said it before I could. 👍
Other than them needing to be rescued from the FBI trying to murder them.
@@FluffPuffkotj oof
I was a designated marksman in the direct action platoon in force recon, depending on the situation when we did MIO(maritime interdiction operation) taking ships at see we had both Helo insertion and overwatch with zodiacs bringing more in at the fantail. Caving ladders were used to get up into the main deck of the ship and men fast roped into the command deck. In all clearing and taking command of the ship took some time. Giant cargo ships have so many hiding places plus you have to find what they were trying to smuggle in country. Lots of fun!! Man I miss it sometimes!!
People should do a movie about the Peruvian siege of the Japanese embassy in Lima. They played the long game and breached with tunnels.
I love die hard to! A true Christmas classic.
12:12 IDK why I was surprised when he just pulled out a shotgun put of nowhere but that made me laugh because of the surprise
hold on, since when were there 'hostage rescues' at Ruby Ridge or Wako? Did these happen before or after the murders / fire?
LOL now I kinda wanna see the hornets nest situation in a movie
but no, NOT THE BEES
check out My Girl with Macaulay Culkin
Interesting to see movies that are based on true events (with living witnesses) get such bad scores.
Besides 6 days.
@@MrOneFaces
True, it wasn't universal.
The only 2 like that are WACO (Which he gave a reason for) and RR which is probably a situation he wants to forget about (Understandably so)
FBI's HRT team...
Basically the seal team 6 of law enforcement...
Wait what!!!!
The commitment to this video..... Respect
maybe having a hostage negotiator that was there for the texas siege rate negotiation scenes that didn’t go so well
We need more ditches
"Things always go wrong. No matter how much you practise, no matter how good you are, things always go wrong."
Just wow.
He may know a thing or two about stuff going wrong
@@micahchavis179 2 atleast. Like I don't wanna blame him for all that happened but I would not describe it as: Things go wrong.
@@dpm2937 True that's very true
@@micahchavis179 I mean: Went wrong. Is kinda an understatement
Sounds like someone who doesn't know how to do their job properly.
18:17 "ultimately we wanted to save people's lives" that's why you had agent's posing with the burnt corpses afterwards makes sense mr.Spook
0:32 Walt Disney Studios: "WANT A BOOLET IN YO HED??"
thank you for your service sir
and sharing your knowledge
Here before the comments get disabled
“I’m not gonna talk about what they did right and what they did wrong” when it comes to Waco, everything you did was wrong
there was a few things they did right; for one they made everyone know loud and clear that the ATF is incompetent
By saying, “you”, do you mean the ex-fbi agent in this video or the agency?
The original taking of pelham 123 is really good.
Man ... watching an operation you were part of being portrayed completely differently to what you know went down must be infuriating....
Blood boiling
Can this be information be disclosed without legal action? (Can you share this information)
It is
Especially the ones that went so bad. To paint tragedies you witnessed be so misrepresented must be even worse
@@JohnyScissors
Absolutely. The Ruby Ridge thing, is the worst. Practically everything people say about it, is 180° from the reality.
I like how he refers to a bad situation as an erosion..
What happened to shoot the hostage though lol
One of the Navy Seals that took one of the shots said on a podcast that it was probably the easiest shot he ever took in his life.... Check it out on Mike Drop Podcast Episode 65!
Yeah he used an m4 that was a great podcast
if you like that type of thing you should check out the Hazard Ground Podcast
And I'm sure he was just flexing. A shot a night far away on moving water into a small window was super easy
@@kyartick8502 I don't think he was talking about the shot being an easy one to make, but rather an easy decision to make the shot. You see a guy threatening an innocent and bam!