ARB TPMS. One of the WORST products I've ever reviewed.
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2018
- What a let-down! Normally, the ARB name promises quality, but here is a product that lets the name down.
This is the review of the ARB Tire Pressure Monitoring System (external type). Suitable for 4x4, 4WD vehicles, monitoring tyre pressures, but no temperature. This is my review shot over seven weeks trying to get it to work. Even after I had the first one replaced, I never got it to work as I expected it to.
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Andrew, at 10:15 you rotated the cigarette lighter part of the system the incorrect way, could this be the reason for the failure. Likewise at 7:30 the unit was not orientated correctly
There were a couple of time when it was filmed when upside down. It was difficult to see this detail in the viewfinder. Most of the time it was correct way up. Even so, this can't affect it.
OMG iv been watching your videos for years and i didn't even subscribe
What am im i doing
BFG, KM3 Tires.
Glen Morris I agree and to make sure I went out to my vehicle and tried all 3 sockets and it didn’t matter what position or orientation I inserted it.
The device worked no matter what.
Not boring at all. I just love that your brutally honest andrew. Awesome stuff mate absolutely hilarious watching your frustration when you were sitting in the car. “Why are you doing this!!??” Good on you andrew!
Couldn't agree more Pete, not at all boring. If Andrew says a product is good then it is, if he says it's bad you can bet your life it's bad. I too love that Andrew is brutally honest and up front.... no fucking around, what you see is what you get. I'm surprised that ARB have decided to put their name on a product that obviously doesn't work. If ARB sees this video, in my opinion, they need to contact Andrew to put this right.
So honest I love it Andrew. I wish everyone could be like this when they review products. Can't wait for more videos.
Exactly the reason why I think you are bloody fantastic. 100% genuine and telling it like it is .... very hard to find these days either on TV or UA-cam. I find your adventures and the way you present your thoughts and experiences extraordinarily enjoyable and entertaining. Well done indeed, keep it up.
I had a set of the same ARB TPMS and removed them after a few weeks of problem after problem. In general, I agree Andrew with your overall assessment.
Dont waste money in buying some of the ARB junk they seem to be getting in these days.
Just as soon as you giving the product a zero, it beeps on you. That's too funny.
It wasn't keen on his review. As much as I agree with his review. Perhaps the product was just agreeing?
Warning. Under inflated review detected XD
karma.
13:01 Lol.
It was like Dennis Nedry's computer on Jurassic Park going, "Nah-ah-ah, nah-ah-ah"!
That would have been frustrating and thanks for the honest review.
It is the dishonesty of the modern world that is so frustrating. ARB appear to have gone the same way as so many trusted names.
I choose Stanley as an example. The once benchmark for tools are now trading on the name, selling absolute rubbish from China a playing on the brand loyalty card. Everything I have bought in the last ten years that is badged Stanley has been way below par.
Bosch is another one.
ARB seems the same.
They get taken over by accountants and board members who no nothing about the product but know how to increase profits to fuel their huge bonuses. When the name has lost so much respect that the company goes bust, these men will have moved on to the next victim or will have retired to their multi million dollar yacht.
I am having a rant but I think it is important, all the good people are being conned.
These giant companies are buying up all the brands and sucking the life out of them.
Rants are good :-)
Harvey Smith mate having worked in corporate for long saying that you have nailed it is an understatement.
Worst (best) example; Mercedes Benz - if ever there was a company trading on a previously well deserved good name, it is these bastards.
Thank you for the kind words.
Stanley is now part of the Black and Decker group. That in itself should tell you all you need to know.
Your honesty is always fantastic. Please keep it up!
Nice honest review. Thanks for sharing.
Australian 4x4 Adventures great review mate, saves me buying rubbish. You expect ARB products to be great. Period.
I'm glad I saw this review. I was just about to get a set of these two. Thanks!
I very much enjoyed watching your descent into abject frustration
Look forward to the next video after ARB has contacted you in an attempt to prove it works, or they pull the product from their shelves - whichever comes first. I’m glad you did this product/topic review as I was considering buying the same.
Not the only thing that lets ARB down. Spent 5 weeks at Cape York and their Frontier fuel tank failed, the digital pump up gauge failed and their dirt gear bag failed. The only 3 things I had go wrong in 5 weeks of off-roading. Don't even get me started on their workshop performance here in Hobart...
Like so many companies they are coasting on their past reputation.
I agree. I wasn’t happy with there workshop or there arrogant couldn’t be f#&ked serving you, so I will make out I am busy with a serious face looking at porn on the computer attitude. I am not one to make a complaint, I just go elsewhere now. Heaps cheaper sourcing the product yourself and finding a good independent contractor to do the work
Nice job Andrew. I completely understand your frustration. Someone has to be held accountable for these over priced faulty products. I recently went through the painful process of using there digital inflator. I went through 3 of them before asking for my money back. I was a shame because it should have been a great product.
Keep up the good work mate. 👍🏻🤙🏻
Thanks for the review Andrew - I want to see the bloopers version of this video :)
Its a real honest account from someone who does this work almost daily. Thanks Andrew.
Andrew, first and foremost....not boring. Highly entertaining. I laughed so much, thinking you were going to punch it at one stage. I know I would have. Love your honesty and they bloody well need to hear it. One things for sure....their pricing is premium and based on a bull bar of theirs I've seen recently, with daggy welds, weld spatter and poorly secured lights......some construction feedback is required.
Nice honest review.
I have the same system and it works perfectly, plugged it in, set the pressure that I wanted it to notify me at, and have not had any issues in close to 10k of driving with it so far.
Taken it off and put it back on a few times and it picks up where it left off, all the pressures are correct on the display compared to when I check them too
Thanks for the honest review. I like the idea of an add-on TPMS system for my rig, are there any that get your seal of approval?
Great info...! Thanks for your work in making these videos.
Thanks Andrew, I think you gave the product a fair & honest appraisal based on two attempts with the same result. Quite uncanny timing because I was considering buying the exact same item for my Suzuki Jimny, so thanks Mate you just saved me the trip, the purchase & the disappointment.
Did you take the second set back for a refund or just put it down to bad experience ???
Kind Regards, Steve.
Excellent review because unlike so many others on YT, you're honest about the product. Just wondering if there is a system you'd recommend & do you know of one that is made for a dually (6 tires for those who may not know what I mean)?
I’ve got one of these but the internal sensor type, had it for 2 years, works fine. Like you, I found the instructions totally confusing with unexplained beeping occurring often for no logical reason. But as mine are the internal type, I was unable to rip them off my tyres in a fit of rage and smash them into itty bitty tiny little pieces ... which was lucky for me, as one day I managed to totally fluke my way around the set up menu and got it to work properly. Now I have no issues with the product but someone at ARB needs to get their arse kicked for signing off on those instructions supplied with the unit because they are SHIT! .....(I had to put that in uppercase- I feel sooo much better now) 👍🏻
Never seen Andrew as frustrated as this, even when he needed a recovery from MUD's he was not this angry!
Thanks Andrew for the honesty
There are tyre pressure sensors on our new Holden Trailblazer LTZ , they work fine for road pressures but I’m not sure if you can reset them for off road. I’ve only had it for 1200kms. I’ll have to read the owners Manuel / book of warnings soon. Is there a handy pump topping up tyre pressures on trips and at home?
So glad I saw this. I only have one ARB product and that is their Air Compressor. It seems to work ok. I was planning on grabbing one of their recovery kits and now I have having second thoughts about their product line and quality control. I run with a large group of Tacoma guys who use their products religiously. I'm going to share this as a warning. If ARB held their standards high, they would immediately pull this product from the market and investigate the issue. I hope they are reading this article... I am currently using Denso internal TPMS sensors with a Kenwood head unit that displays the tire pressure and temps. It's flawless!
Good for you on giving you down and out honest thoughts about that product.
Andrew, after watching this I will stick to just keeping and eye on my tyre pressures, you can usually feel through how the vehicle handles if a tyre is under pressure, keep safe
i do appreciate the effort and the honesty.
Good to know, nice review. You can give Tireguard Jet-400 a try, bought it in RSA 2 years ago and never let down by it. Thanks for sharing.
Great episode sir. I really enjoyed this.
Thank you for an honest review. It’s refreshing that there are still a few non-shill people out there.
Keep up the amazing work. Your channel is one of my favorites.
Glad I saw this video. I’m new to 4 wheeling (I’m actually getting my patrol next week) and I’m pretty sure I would have bought this to try.
Thanks for your review as i was thinking about getting a external tyre monitoring system for the safety reason mostly , if i had a slow deflation at 100 km + speeds as not to destroy a tyre or crash because of it . Having a 4WD where you have to lower tyre pressures for off-road and having to take off those caps every time with the tools would be time consuming and very annoying to say the least . Thank you for your honest review :-)
Hi Stephen
I installed these about 12 months ago and found they work well when the alarm went off as I drove home from work. Slow leak caused by a nail. The alarm gave me time to drive back to work and change the tyre safely.
If I was going Bush, I'd take them all off because they are a bit fiddly.
For highway driving, I'm now a firm believer.
Wow! That is horrible. I hope ARB listens. There is nowhere to hide in the internet age.
I bought a no name TPMS system off eBay for about $100 and fitted it to my patrol. I had one sensor that was an issue but after a quick clean, it was fine. It was far less complicated than this and it allowed me to easily set a high and low pressure for on road, and as well for off road, and it worked so bloody well I was amazed! From memory I also had a sensor on my spare as well.
I wonder how ARB responded to this review. It’s been 2 years since this vid was published. Have they improved this product?
Thumbs up for the effort!
Did you speak to ARB after the second test and if so what did they say?
Thankyou for an honest review. I feel your frustration brother.
How did you last that long? Hats off for putting in the effort to try figuring it out.. I would have dumped it within the first hour of frustrations...
Whats your opinion on the jeep wrangler JK 2 door? I don't know if you've reviewed it but I'm curious.
Hi Andrew, can you recommend a good internal system?
I got a chinese tyre sensor kit, and these systems do actually work, we punctured a tyre on the tanami track and was able to keep it in one piece because of the low pressure alarm.
It's interesting to see how you have grown. I subscribed when you had less than 20k
And I remember your name too.
Sharp memory
When will you release your tyre carrier review?
Should have put a sensor under each tire and driven over them then see what display says !
Andrew, I understand your frustration 100%...I used to import a TPMS from the USA over 10 years back into South Africa and it was a fantastic system. My personal system's batteries lasted about that long but turned out it was more expensive to have the batteries replaced ( as it was a sealed sensor) than to buy a new local one....The one I purchased is terrible and all the suppliers say is that the batteries are low... 3 weeks maximum! what I have found though that might be your issue is that the Schreader valve might be set too deep within the actual valve housing (if thats what its called) and when you screw the pressure monitor on to the valve the sensor does not connect sufficiently enough with the Schraeder valve and therefore cannot read a constant pressure. This will give you a incorrect and inconsistent pressure reading.
I however give you full marks for actually really trying to understand the user manual.... I would have returned it within a day...or thrown it out the window!
Glad you put this up mate I was going to buy one this week. Definitely won’t be getting one now. Thanks mate
Do you want mine? Free of charge!
4xoverland appreciate the offer mate but think I will leave it for now as I can see they would be a pain as you said in the video for airing up and down
Mate what a great video! I used to work for ARB head office in Kilsyth, Melbourne as an accessory fitter. And as you said some ARB products are great, but not all! The ARB name must be paid for when buying their products whether they're good or not. I know which ones to buy and which ones not to buy. This is definitely one i WON'T buy. Some of their products are no better than other brands and way overpriced because of the ARB name. Keep up the great videos mate, love it! And i couldn't help but laugh my guts out when it started beeping at you once you gave it a zero score!!! Too funny!
Excellent review, very real time .
Brilliant review and really feel sorry for the frustration you had with it. thank you for doing this review as certainly going to save lot of people the same trouble. This product could even be a safety hazard in it's self, being so random the driver might start getting annoyed with it while driving resulting in possible accident.
Or the classic "crying wolf to many times" one not trust it , for the one time it was actually correct and tyre was loosing air resulting in an actual blow out or worse.
I would love to see the reaction of a ARB store manager or someone who's not used to using their products actually try set it up, even from few different branches. Maybe it will bring awareness of the standard of the product really to their attention.
So who makes a good internal aftermarket tpms then? Being similar, I fear the arb internal system isn't any better
1. My car doesn’t have a cigarette lighter. 2. Can’t wait for ARB’s comeback on this. I am actually looking for something like this. I had a problem 2 months ago in Botswana on my way to Lekhubu Island. Luckily I had to stop at the vet fence and saw the tyre was getting flat. I am going to Bots in 2 weeks again. This time with 2 spares and I want to get a TPMS as well. Any ideas what I can get? That is available in SA? Love the honesty. I actually think you stayed quite composed. I would have lost it....completely.
So the big question is whether the ARB backlash will be worse than the Pajero backlash :-)
This honesty is why I watch your channel Andrew. Glad I wasn't in the car.
How do you air down with something like this ? You have to remove it ?
I noticed that twice you had the unit plugged in upside down, what was that all about?
The beeping alone would send that unit out the window. You have a lot of patience. But I love a review that is honest. Good for you.
Oh god. I think I will stick too just kicking the tyre and using my battery digital inflator if I need it haha.
Good video as always :)
"I'm going to, for the very first time in my life, give it a score of ZERO" Oh man, that was just perfect unintentional comedic timing. hahaha
Looks like a rebadged Steelmate. I use their TMPS with external sensors on my 2 4WDs, Both work brilliantly, you can watch the build as you drive on the freeway.
Temp sensors on any external TMPS will be near useless. The temp displayed will be closer to ambient than that of the critical intersection between the tread and the tyre carcass.
Either you have received two faulty units, or it's simply user error. I have no issues adjusting the pressure thresholds, units or temp warning on the tmps at all, I found the whole process very intuitive.
The great thing about the external Steelmate/ARB sensors is they work down at low pressure, like 10psi unlike many of the competition.
Tyre Pal from the UK is what I use and it has never let me down. Simple to use, display is so straightforward and can also take upto 24 sensors (for trucks). I use with my camping trailer.
I wouldn't have been able to help myself.
I'd have ask the ARB Store Rep to show me how it works!
Now.... Did you get your money back Andrew?
Probably not much of an issue on bigger tires, but should you balance your wheels with these fitted?
Andrew I loved your review on this. My Comments are as follows.
This thing is trying too hard to make it too simple, they are following the Apple Method of only wanting a single button, ive seen a couple of other units reviewed by a couple other youtube channels, and they have gone too simple for people who want more customizing.
1. Why did they make is small enough mount directly over the 12v? anyone i know is going to want it in different places, or will have more than one, then its on all the time and the battery dies
2. why did they only put one button? a set, up and down + a Reset alarm button would not have been that much more, especially for the price of the product.
3. Im a failure on this as well, I assume people understand industry jargon, and thats and issue, when you said "threshold" I instantly knew, and I knew what it was asking for, but that comes from me working in the industry. documentation needs to be easier.
Good video, I've had a couple of sets of cheap external monitors but it looks like the 'good' ones are crap as well. Will get an internal set next time. 👍
I’ve been in the off road industry since the early 70’s and have used several ARB products that are excellent. In recent years they have gotten into a lot of what I call copy cat products and for the most part they were junk. We’ve tried these on 2 customers and took them off due to malfunction. I run a different brand on my motor home and they work great. The other problem I’ve run into on off road vehicles is unless your valve stem is inside the wheel there is a high probability of ripping the sensors off on rocks etc. First time I’ve seen your channel good material new subscriber.
Hi Super Sami. Welcome!
I wonder if Toyota has an accessories product like this for the LC70 series?
I have a similar set made by Carchet, bought from Amazon, that work very well. They seem to be surviving the Dubai heat and are working fine still a year after purchase.
Hi andrew from istanbul
i see in your eyes when you heard this bip bip noise you said f... 😃
Take it easy ! life is difficult and this never happens in german or japan products .
Many thanks for nice videos that you take me these remote places I am not able to see in my life with my budget.
Happy to see you drove my suv once forester 2003-2005
Best,
Oz
Sorry Andrew, I found that very entertaining to watch your frustration. My daughter's Jeep has internal TPMS and the readout often differs for all 4 tyres even after I've meticulously checked the pressures myself. Also, it never warned her when she got a slow puncture.
I had a look at Chris fix on You Tube and when he fitted them he sprayed them with soapy water and showed one leaking a little. Could this be the problem with the product ?
Then its a bad product. The end.
You misspelled "soapy wooder"
Soapy is correct you need a new dictionary.
So not a regular chris fix viewer then? It's a running joke. Also it's the "wooder" bit that's misspelled..... ?
I have seen him a lot but not too much recently but enjoy his videos.
Could just about feel your frustration through the screen!
I think I could fathom that out after seeing what you are doing from 11 min , the switch seems to be a single click to change values and hold it down to select options , it's a shame you are not in the uk as I would test one to see if I could get it working , only just started watching your channel after a friend recommending it and finding it great to watch .
how about a reballence of each wheel adding that to them ? What can happen to them with terrain like gravel, brush etc common in off roading? Does it work with tires aired down?
It does not work tyres aired down. No you do not need to rebalance.
HHMMM have you ever put a tire on a tire balance machine with it on the tire ? It will not work with aired down tires used very common for off roading? HHMM Well it is fine for most 4x4's I see. Lifted for large tires with brackets lowering the suspension and steel blocks under the leaf springs. Mall trucks cruising the parking lots. I like off roading with mine. It is long travel suspension. Not like the Raptor with 13" front and 13.9" rear on Fox shocks I guess. Just a old full size Bronco I rebuilt with 18" front and 20" rear on King shocks. If I could not air down I would not need beadlock rims rims I guess either though. I could put a nice paint job on it if it won't be scratched off roading too. Here I come shopping mall.
I feel your frustration. The main problem I found with many was I wanted different thresholds for on-road driving and off-road driving. e.g. I want an alarm at 25 psi if I am on road but not if I have lowered pressures for sand driving. Many units you had to program the whole thing all over again to do this which is very frustrating as you have observed. I wanted a unit that could also include my trailer and spares which the ARB one does not do. I eventually found a unit which did everything I wanted really well ( still a lot of mucking around to get it calibrated) but the supposedly 12 month battery life of the sensors ended up being more like one month and I got sick of constantly changing batteries because as a battery goes flat it beeps every minute which drives you nuts on a long trip. Other than the battery life it worked perfectly. The slow leak function worked well (every time you let out air for off road) and the tempreture monitoring was good also.
I had an ARB air locker fitted to my Discovery some years ago. Every time I used it, it filled the front inner guard (where the compressor was mounted) with oil. The unit was purchased and fitted by ARB head office in Melbourne. When I rang the company ( already knowing this leaking oil problem) they said there were no problems with the locker and to just fit a catch can to the unit to catch all the diff oil.
I have heard and witnessed the rusting bull bars that have been fitted to new vehicles, so in my opinion I would not outlay my hard earned for an ARB product. I must say that some years ago they did make the best bull bars, but not sure now.
I bought the Tyredog TD1300A-X TPMS from an Australian supplier through ebay 3 years ago and put them on my Landcruiser Troopy (75 series). It comes with 5 sensors, which means I can monitor my spare too. Been through all sorts of terrain, camping and fishing, crossed moderately deep (knee deep) creeks, beach driving, salt water immersion, thick gloopy mud in the Dwellingup/Collie area of WA, the Gibb, across to Alice Springs via SA. Never had an issue. It's a doddle to set High and Low pressure alerts and temps (even for the spare). Main unit takes batteries, OR cigarette lighter powered cable. The sensors use CR1632 batteries, and they seem to last close to 2 years before you get a low batt warning on the display. Each sensor has it's own separate low batt and loss of signal icon on the main unit, which is also backlit in a white light.
If you have the main unit on battery power, you can take it out of its cradle and take it with you if and when you need to fiddle with the sensors. I once took it off the cradle outside with me while I aired down to head onto the beach off the Lancelin 4WD area and used it as a means to get pressure readings (only because I forgot to pack the tire pressure gauge in the fourby).
The Tyredog TPMS might be suitable for your use Andrew. It works perfectly well with my Troopy without any signal problems, false readings and compared to the difficulty you apparently had with the ARB product, a piece of cake to use.
I Almost spit out my coffee when you gave it a zero and it complained LOL!
Don't hold back, tell us how you REALLY feel 😁. Thanks for the honest review mate.
arent the sensors movement on off?
It's funny, how technology can make things easier for us, but half of the time it actually makes it much more complicated. This product is a great example. Great review.
I hope you went back into ARB. I think highly of ARB, they have fitted out our whole truck for us overlanding thru Australia. We decided against a tyre monitoring system..we use our hands.
Cheers Ro
Traveller's Nest nz
Hi Andrew, Normally tire pressure sensors have to be calibrated, when you install them you have to be at zero tire pressure and pump it up gradually this is while its reciever unit on the setting-up mode (when the numbers are flashing)
This video reminds me of trying to explain to my Gran how to use the DVD remote.
You need a teenager to read the instruction and set it up for you :)
Hey the website and current packaging says it does temperature warnings. Perhaps it was trying to warn you of an impending meltdown behind the main wheel. Thanks for straight up review still weighing up what to buy. Back to looking at Doran & Tyre dog. Similar price and you get 3 control buttons thrown in free.
I like your hat, may I know the brand name and where you bought it?
Andrew - i can feel the Pain you had with this product. Nevertheless - i fitted internal sensors during the tyre swap. It was any cheap(ish) chinese product - it would let me set alarms for high and low pressure as well as high temperature alarm and surprisingly worked very well and reliable. Worth to mention these alarms could be set for each of the 4 tyres separately. The unit had optional a 5th tyre for the spare wheel - but unfortunately - the 5th sensor was not included. ! I might can find the the product if i search for a bit.
I have 4 of another brand,nearly $300 rolling round my LC glovebox,they started playing silly buggers with alarms.
As they were on the caravan I could not ignore them.
2.6 and 3.0 bar in the same axle doesn't sound normal to me, are you sure it wasn't alarming about that?
I also use one of the older tyre pal products and have used it for 10 years, it still works and the only thing I have had to change are the batteries!
A couple years ago one of the offroad clubs I wheel with gave a few sets of these out in a raffle drawing. The people that won them gave them away and then the people who got them next just threw them away. Nobody could get them to work. The system wouldn't communicate with the sensors, or the sensors would give false or fluctuating readings. You could just guess what the pressure was and you would be better off.
Why not ask the arb shop for assistance and demo how to use it? If they found it faulty, probably the product can be improved or recalled
I thought about that. And you make a valid point. But if a customer needs help with a product that should be so simple, then its a bad product. The competitor's product didn't need a salesperson to fit and set it up.
4xoverland agree with your point also. The product and instructions should be simple enough for customers off the shelf.
Understood. Nevertheless, please do it. Do not leave their parking area. Demand from them to demo until they find a correct package from their stock. Airdown and up after installation to check functionality. This to be done with you filming and their representitive withnessing or even better participating. Better, do not do the job, let them do the job, since you have a complaint, you just eye withness the process and the results.
What about people buying them off the internet. If it comes in the mail and I can't figure it out then what
Good point, that would be my case. But, since one of us, any of us, is physically at the right place (meaning the shop), why not to place some pressure to them and report the outcome to the rest of us?
Andrew, thanks for the review. I too have an external monitor system. It is a "Safety Dave" product and can monitor up to 22 tyres. It does have the ability to show temperature, but due to the position of the sensor (on the end of the valve stem), it is useless at monitoring the tyre temp.....it is good at measuring ambient temp!!! However, I don't see that as a problem. Let's face it, the reason the temp goes up is due to pressure REDUCING making the sidewalls flex and thus creating tyre temp that will kill the tyre. So, as long as it is measuring PRESSURE accurately (and reporting same), I don't think the temp part is important at all. Also, I don't think mine has an over-pressure setting.....why would it need it? A tyre cannot INFLATE itself (unless it has a in-built inflation/deflation system like a Humvee).....so if you start the day with 45psi it won't go wildly ABOVE that figure, other than normal increases from driving; say 4 to 6psi increase.
mr. Andrew, thank you for the review!! I almost bought the ARB LYNC - a very similar concerns stopped me... LYNC also looks like a very cheap no-name system with cheap android phone as a head unit that is simply branded ARB... Will not go for it now)))
will go for sPod :) btw TPMS comes standard on JEEP WRANGLER and works like a charm )))
Great video
Not boring, thank you for the feedback 👍
I can figure it out! (7:30)
its upside down. 40,43 50,54.
Awesome review. If the unit is to difficult to use and functionality is in question. NOT WORTH THE HEADACHE.....