Chongyun exists. Eula exists. The only issue is you need Xingqui, and a good dendro applicator, and both benefit more from other stats than EM. Kaveh is just more reliable in this role since he is dendro and can create the cores whilst also proccing shatter, but the only reliable cryo applicators would be a high ER Shenhe, Ganyu, or Rosaria. Edit: Eula would be way more redundant in the role without Chongyun (since she is only able to apply cryo every few seconds).
@@zuuki69Op stated that kaveh is the only character who can consistently do shatter damage with an EM focused build which isn't true since Chongyun and Eula both exist. (Eula requires Chongyun for more reliability in the role though). Also Kaveh technically does not scale off of EM. Only blooms scale off of EM which is what he is supposed to be centered around, but his personal output scales purely off of attack, which means if you build EM kaveh you sacrifice his personal damage, if you build him for personal damage you sacrifice bloom damage. He isn't Nahida or Al-Haitham. The only reason Kaveh is reliable in the role is due to his passives benefitting bloom damage (albeit additively), and being dendro claymore. It's the same way you'd build Dehya in a burgeon team. You aren't actually focusing on the characters personal output, just their element and using them as a driver and utilizing their passives. You can technically do that same thing with Chongyun. The only issue is you need reliable hydro and dendro application, and Chongyun scales way better off of other stats than EM due to his high burst and skill damage output. You just don't gain the extra core damage with Chongyun, and Chongyun can't heal from the cores. Same with Eula (and Eula would require Chongyun to do consistent cryo application which takes up a slot). But it is possible to do with them, just not as effective unless perhaps you have Nahida (I'm not sure if her skill procs with shatter reactions though). Edit: Even Sayu can do the role as well when paired with Chongyun. Not only does Sayu heal, EM would buff her swirl damage and shatter damage.
@@sweetieswifey627 It isn't that much but good for you. I don't know why you felt the need to respond if you don't feel like reading. Just don't read it and go about your day.
As you can see your honor, the creator/s of her kit design doesn't give a damn about her so guaranteed potential to impact the game being wasted like Signora's ashes. (Edit: What's up with Hoyoverse and their problem with the pyro ladies, then I thought of Himeko, god I wish she lives peacefully in honkai star rail.)
@@sweetieswifey627 Cyno has a good kit and is perfectly viable. He is balanced, not broken which is healthy. Candace is niche. Just like many other 4 star supports. She also is a good vaporize DPS. Kaeya is actually pretty good. People just don't want to use him. He also has the Na scaling in the game for sword users. So your point? Or will you also not "read all dat"
@@ashybashy8D Yelan or Xingqiu is really good with him, but any character that apply hidro off field go well with him I would also still use an healer bc him only heals himself, i particularly use yaoyao bc you can build her as an battery
@@FischlInsultsMePls can you tell me Focalor's kit or where to find it? I only found her passive and it's boosting team damage by HP and even then im not sure if it's right
@@darrell1876 Some leakers said that her kit revolves around Gravity and will continuously deal damage to her entire team in exchange for insane buffs. Heard that even Kuki and Zhongli might not provide enough defense. Though it is still quite early, but the gravity part is pretty sure.
@@FischlInsultsMePls idk what gravity means in this term like is it the name or will they walk on walls but i guess it won't work on nilou that much because double suicide team needs both baizhu and kokomi to help then lmao
The reason Nilou is "assumed" to not work with the hydro archon is because Bloom is a transformative reaction and most buffs in this game, unless expressly stated, do not work on transformative reactions. Not that that leak has any bearing to begin with. No one has leaked an archon's kit successfully patches before the Archon dropped.
the one thing that i think makes him a decent driver even in hyper bloom teams is the healing ticks also work on hyperblooms and burgeons, with the self damage being probably less then the amount he heals and c1 also provoding some resistance in cases, he can sudo relay on being a self healer instead of just ignoring the self damage(this isnt even including xingqius damage reduction)
I don't know why the "explode cores using creator's stats" is in red. That's a good news. Bloom icd is such that only two bloom reaction can damage an enemy every 0.5s. But, according to the KQM theorycrafting library, multiple bloom creators bypass this ICD problem. If Kaveh had ownership of 5 blooms as they explode, only 2 blooms is dealing damage. If Kaveh owned 2 blooms, Barbara owned 3 blooms, and Kaveh explodes all 5, 4 blooms are doing damage.
I ended up using all my savings (saved for kagura variety) for him! Pretty dumb decision on my part considering I didn't even need him. But HE MUST BE IN MY ACC or else I can't sleep.
Kaveh is a pretty solid 4* at c0, a nice change on the c6 locked trend that HoYoYo has been dishing out on 4*. ( exluding YaoYao, but she's lyue character)
Chongyun's skill reducing skill cooldowns should allow for kaveh's onfield bloom ruptures to be spammable for some good "budget nilou" style team comp using fridge without being locked to only dendro and hydro teams
Love the dedication you are putting into Genshin still! I don’t play Genshin myself any more, but I frequently watch your videos as a reliable and transparent content! Wait, whom am I kidding? I am here for those dad jokes
You could also use a bloom and spread party, with a non-aoe electro character who doesn't attack cores, like Beidou burst or Fischl's Ozz. So you have a good and balance Kaveh, hitting hard with his claymore, and exploding cores. Also the bloom and fridge team.
Wish there a video that showed us how to do the rotations. Like make a team and show us in real time what to do. I watched so many theory videos and I still have no idea what to do
Regarding the Spread damage showcase (5:52), is there a particular reason you used the EM set and claymore? As far as I could tell he only has internal scaling on EM with his self heal so I figured the Dendro dmg set would be more effective.
@@ashybashy8D Sure but aside from the set bonuses (2p/4p) you can gain the same EM numbers on other sets. I was wondering if the set bonuses were so much better than Dendro dmg and resistance reduction.
Fun fact: ixix or 99 (his hair clips) roughly means - "The wish for a couple to be together for long time" iirc. It has romantic interpretations but if shipping makes you uncomfortable just view it as Kaveh being a romantic person or a platonic superstitious mom.
From his character story, we find that his father died and then his mother moved to Fontaine and found a new husband. He also blames himself for his father's death, and before his father died, he was living happily.
I know he isnt a budget dendro Nilou but I like his playstyle alot more than Nilous really want more cons for him but dont wanna pull for ganyu or Baizhu lol
When i pair him with an electro unit, i tried fischl in order to not steal cores a d let a mixture of Spead and aggravate come into play. Now we just need a dendro or hydro that can reduce Skill cd or increase attack speed. its comfortable to play him with ER weapon than a mailed flower. with a mika in team is comfortable for those who's like me that like basic attack characters but tbh I'd put hydro that is EM focused or dendro applicator into it rather him.
kaveh is much easier to use than alhaitham, but once you get to understand alhaitham's kit, he is very fun to play and is probably much stronger than kaveh.
@@EugeneDorkdinkletonBonquavo as an Alhaitham user I just don't understand the problems people have with his kit. It's not that difficult, and if you're using him to drive a hyperbloom team you don't even have to understand much except cooldown management
I'm doing a mixed bloom/spread kaveh comp using Kaveh Fischl Traveler Xingqiu since fischl is bad at hitting the dendro cores you can benefit from kaveh bloom dmg and also the spread dmg I have nahida but I fear she can steal the hydro and electro effects with her super application
I have an account question. I have a lvl 71 prototype archaic. Should I use crystals to push it to lvl 80, or use my lvl 75 debate club for xp? Using the debate club wastes no xp
Can you make a video talking about the best team for each character? Best weapon, artifact set, and best stats and sub stats. No need to talk about second best except maybe weapon because we all know the best is their signature.
I wanted him to use with nilou so i can save nahida for the second half of the abyss, is it good enough to use him, nilou, barbara and dentro traveler ?
I mean as long as you have good enough investment in all of those characters it can definitely be done. Just make sure you’re focusing em since you’ll be sharing blooms
@@Eanki_ I would not be so sure. E.g. I have no Kokomi, and Nahida is in the Hyperbloom team (Nahida/Xingqiu/Yelan/Kuki), and I am struggling to get the right team for Nilou (as I have no Yaoyao, basically, the only dendro characters I have built are Nahida and DMC, Collei is at Level 1). So, I am seriously thinking of who can help me build a safer and stronger Nilou team, Kaveh or Baizhu, or should I wait for any other characters (maybe I will pull Yaoyao all of a sudden on the standard banner).
Comments with he dies moAr DmG than DehYa pops again, for God knows how many times. Like IWTL is the person to buff her n I bet most of these ppl don't even have Dehya lol
On a Bloom focused team, does R5 Rainslasher works on par with R5 Mailed Flower? I got him yesterday and I'm quite torn if I should make him use Mailed Flower or should Razor keep it.
For a Bloom team R5 Mailed Flower is most likely better. I assume you have enough hydro application (otherwise Rainslasher is already much worse) and Kaveh triggers most of the blooms, in which case he'll want more EM. He can use ATK% too, but EM will probably do better in his reaction damage. It's between: - 41 more EM (Mailed Flower) - 12% more ATK (Rainslasher) Imo 12% more attack isn't enough to replace the 41 added EM. If this was between R1-2 weapons, the two would probably perform similarly since Mailed Flower would only have 158-170 EM (with 165 on Rainslasher), but on R5 it jumps up to 206. Mailed Flower will most likely outperform Rainslasher by a considerable amount. I think Rainslasher might be better if you try to use him in a Spread team, but I'm not fully sure.
@@user89389 I just want to know if the trade-off of 206 EM + 24% ATK of Mailed Flower to the 165 EM + 36% DMG of Rainslasher is close enough for me to consider using it. I'm planning to use him on Nilou Bloom and my artifact of choice would be FOPL. I might suffer from diminishing returns for having too much %DMG, but if the difference isn't too much then I'd like him to use my dusty Rainslasher instead.
Because c0 Alhaitham is an absurdly strong spread dps that is competitive with the strongest c0 high investment f2p teams of Hu Tao and Childe. Like Childe, he also cheats on his dendro application, bruteforcing icd via his mirrors like Childe bruteforcing icd through riptide.
Why doesn't Hoyoverse just stop lying about interruption resistance? If they are going to make it so damn inconsequential then should just forego it altogether.
In a team a full EM build but if you want to try to get high numbers from Kaveh instead of bloom's damage the a crit/EM build. But the first one will perform better and it is easier to build.
I’m so upset I pulled like 45 times and didn’t get a single kaveh just weapons and Candace smh 🤦🏽♂️ why do they make it so hard to get 4 stars it makes no sense , you should be guaranteed the 4 star of ur Choice after so many pulls
quick question does he work as a substitute for nahida in an ayato bloom or quick bloom team, I lost 50/50 on dehya and got Kaveh while wishing for baizhu earlier
I’m no expert on ayato bloom teams but if an ayato bloom team can use an on field dendro driver then probably. If it needs off field dendro application then no, he won’t work.
Agreed with the previous answer. If you want him as an off-field dendro, absolutely not. If you want him on-field then yes. The two might compete for field time but it can work.
With Kaveh adding rooster to the Nilou Bloom, I don't think that nilou is a niche instead nilou is strong/more strong in a bloom team. Like how Hu tao is to Vape and Ayaka to Freeze. You can use ayaka in melt team but from what i see she is more strong on freeze team like Nilou can be used in vape team but bloom is where she shine
@@modellodime It has to do with the off-field hydro application that Nilou provides. Her off-field E actually provides slow hydro application as opposed to fast hydro application (IWinToLose had to use Xingqiu in the team comp in order for the hydro application to match Kaveh's dendro application), meaning she's not as good compared to Ayaka when it comes to doing a lot of reactions. Ayaka's burst does a lot of cryo hits, meaning she can keep up with fast pyro applicators.
@@ultimatedespair2368 how does it not work? What does her kit provide over kokomi? Also "viable" is an interesting term to use, considering amber is also "viable".
Nilou is so frustrating It is a whole different reaction. It is not dendro! With Kaveh, the punishment of self dmg is gone What is this! It is the best aeo dmg team. There are no very few enemies that require grouping. Everything just rushes towards you Unless they put multiple stationary enemies in abyss, which is not gonna happen since that will destroy all aoe teams. HYV MADE A BAD DECISION
Kaveh is the Nilou driver for people who don’t want to stress about their health or struggle to fight within Kokomi’s E. I know they won’t but if they ever do ramp up the difficulty I’d go as far to say that Kaveh would be mandatory for Nilou to even work lol
He also buffs bountiful cores... that´s what I wanted to know hahahaha, I can finally release my nahida to another team in the abyss (like hyperbloom) and use baizhu and kaveh with nilou and yelan 😎
He is fine without Nilou. His whole "cool" aspect is that he can immediately detonate seeds. If you have Nilou, then Nilou already does that so why have Kaveh when you can have one of the super strong hydro or dendro units instead (Yelan, Alhaitham, Tighnari, Xingqiu, Nahida, Kokomi, Ayato - take your pick)
Worth noting, Kaveh has more resistance to interruption during his burst than Ayato during his skill. Tried both in Abyss 12 and Ayato's run looked like a ragdoll simulator.
By a little bit amount though, 1k em bloom damage is increased by around 500+% and kaveh can increase that by additional 40%... Too dmall. Not to mention nilou can boost the damage of blooms by a larger amount
Kaveh kind of tries to be multiple things and fails at most of them. I guess he’d be nice if you didn’t have Al Haitham/Nahida/Baizhu/Yao Yao for your bloom team, but at that point, why are you building a bloom team, lmao. He’ll be seeing as much use as Xinyan.
Funnily enough, Kaveh is the only character that can consistently do shatter reaction damage with his EM focused build on a fridge team.
Chongyun exists. Eula exists.
The only issue is you need Xingqui, and a good dendro applicator, and both benefit more from other stats than EM.
Kaveh is just more reliable in this role since he is dendro and can create the cores whilst also proccing shatter, but the only reliable cryo applicators would be a high ER Shenhe, Ganyu, or Rosaria.
Edit: Eula would be way more redundant in the role without Chongyun (since she is only able to apply cryo every few seconds).
@@raurisaurus5057 op is saying shatter damage which scales of em, and kaveh is em scaling
@@zuuki69Op stated that kaveh is the only character who can consistently do shatter damage with an EM focused build which isn't true since Chongyun and Eula both exist. (Eula requires Chongyun for more reliability in the role though).
Also Kaveh technically does not scale off of EM. Only blooms scale off of EM which is what he is supposed to be centered around, but his personal output scales purely off of attack, which means if you build EM kaveh you sacrifice his personal damage, if you build him for personal damage you sacrifice bloom damage. He isn't Nahida or Al-Haitham.
The only reason Kaveh is reliable in the role is due to his passives benefitting bloom damage (albeit additively), and being dendro claymore. It's the same way you'd build Dehya in a burgeon team. You aren't actually focusing on the characters personal output, just their element and using them as a driver and utilizing their passives.
You can technically do that same thing with Chongyun. The only issue is you need reliable hydro and dendro application, and Chongyun scales way better off of other stats than EM due to his high burst and skill damage output.
You just don't gain the extra core damage with Chongyun, and Chongyun can't heal from the cores. Same with Eula (and Eula would require Chongyun to do consistent cryo application which takes up a slot).
But it is possible to do with them, just not as effective unless perhaps you have Nahida (I'm not sure if her skill procs with shatter reactions though).
Edit: Even Sayu can do the role as well when paired with Chongyun. Not only does Sayu heal, EM would buff her swirl damage and shatter damage.
@@raurisaurus5057 I ain't reading all that
@@sweetieswifey627 It isn't that much but good for you. I don't know why you felt the need to respond if you don't feel like reading. Just don't read it and go about your day.
Its not a 4star showcase today, Its a suitcase 😂
Ok Cyno 😅😂😂😂
@@genericyoutuber1056 Cyno would be so proud of them 💀💀
* Tighnari groan noise somewhere in desert * 🤣🤣
😂😂😂
*Reach out an imaginary hand to try and choke OP*
More time, effort, and care went into Kaveh's normal attacks than Dehya's whole fucking kit
As you can see your honor, the creator/s of her kit design doesn't give a damn about her so guaranteed potential to impact the game being wasted like Signora's ashes.
(Edit: What's up with Hoyoverse and their problem with the pyro ladies, then I thought of Himeko, god I wish she lives peacefully in honkai star rail.)
Her kit is also kinda bad right now.
because hes white
@@zedyasuo7238 Cyno, Candace, Kaeya
@@sweetieswifey627 Cyno has a good kit and is perfectly viable. He is balanced, not broken which is healthy.
Candace is niche. Just like many other 4 star supports. She also is a good vaporize DPS.
Kaeya is actually pretty good. People just don't want to use him. He also has the Na scaling in the game for sword users.
So your point? Or will you also not "read all dat"
I got him and he is amazing with Nilou and Nahida c: even at c0
What other character do you use on your team? I wann use him with them too but I don’t know who else to add
@@ashybashy8D Yelan or Xingqiu is really good with him, but any character that apply hidro off field go well with him
I would also still use an healer bc him only heals himself, i particularly use yaoyao bc you can build her as an battery
@@Nokaid0 can I use Furina with him?
Nilou keeps eating well 😂 imagine the entire Fontaine roster works well with her too
Leaked Focalor kit works horribly with her, so there’s that
@@FischlInsultsMePls can you tell me Focalor's kit or where to find it? I only found her passive and it's boosting team damage by HP and even then im not sure if it's right
@@darrell1876 Some leakers said that her kit revolves around Gravity and will continuously deal damage to her entire team in exchange for insane buffs. Heard that even Kuki and Zhongli might not provide enough defense. Though it is still quite early, but the gravity part is pretty sure.
@@FischlInsultsMePls idk what gravity means in this term like is it the name or will they walk on walls but i guess it won't work on nilou that much because double suicide team needs both baizhu and kokomi to help then lmao
The reason Nilou is "assumed" to not work with the hydro archon is because Bloom is a transformative reaction and most buffs in this game, unless expressly stated, do not work on transformative reactions. Not that that leak has any bearing to begin with. No one has leaked an archon's kit successfully patches before the Archon dropped.
A bit out of topic, but I really appreciate how much care you put in every detail of your videos!
the one thing that i think makes him a decent driver even in hyper bloom teams is the healing ticks also work on hyperblooms and burgeons, with the self damage being probably less then the amount he heals and c1 also provoding some resistance in cases, he can sudo relay on being a self healer instead of just ignoring the self damage(this isnt even including xingqius damage reduction)
I've honestly been having a lot of fun with him, I think he's a pretty good character
i swear, kavehs passive is so good you will never die if hes on field and you're blooming
I don't know why the "explode cores using creator's stats" is in red. That's a good news. Bloom icd is such that only two bloom reaction can damage an enemy every 0.5s. But, according to the KQM theorycrafting library, multiple bloom creators bypass this ICD problem. If Kaveh had ownership of 5 blooms as they explode, only 2 blooms is dealing damage. If Kaveh owned 2 blooms, Barbara owned 3 blooms, and Kaveh explodes all 5, 4 blooms are doing damage.
My 20 pulls didn’t bless me with him yet. Wish me luck for the rest of the banner!!
Hope you got better than me, 180 wishes in and only get 3 copies
I ended up using all my savings (saved for kagura variety) for him! Pretty dumb decision on my part considering I didn't even need him. But HE MUST BE IN MY ACC or else I can't sleep.
Unfortunately I got him I wish I can give him for you (I was trying to get baizhu)
147 pulls and 1 kaveh. 3 months saving shittogems. All for nothing. I think i quit this game.
Good luck!!
Kaveh is a pretty solid 4* at c0, a nice change on the c6 locked trend that HoYoYo has been dishing out on 4*. ( exluding YaoYao, but she's lyue character)
His E and Q acts as a Bloom detonator. While Q is like C6 Dori but longer infusion dendro attack duration, also a Dendro copter XD. heheh
Chongyun's skill reducing skill cooldowns should allow for kaveh's onfield bloom ruptures to be spammable for some good "budget nilou" style team comp using fridge without being locked to only dendro and hydro teams
Love the dedication you are putting into Genshin still! I don’t play Genshin myself any more, but I frequently watch your videos as a reliable and transparent content! Wait, whom am I kidding? I am here for those dad jokes
You could also use a bloom and spread party, with a non-aoe electro character who doesn't attack cores, like Beidou burst or Fischl's Ozz.
So you have a good and balance Kaveh, hitting hard with his claymore, and exploding cores.
Also the bloom and fridge team.
I’m just glad I can finally put a claymore wielder on my Nilou team to mine in overworld
Wish there a video that showed us how to do the rotations. Like make a team and show us in real time what to do. I watched so many theory videos and I still have no idea what to do
Don't let him know you just straight up compared him with ALHAITHAM
his charged attack is for sure the coolest in the game
Your videos butter my biscuits thank you
Building him for bloom as my first ever dendro team
Regarding the Spread damage showcase (5:52), is there a particular reason you used the EM set and claymore? As far as I could tell he only has internal scaling on EM with his self heal so I figured the Dendro dmg set would be more effective.
Spread still benefits from EM
@@ashybashy8D Sure but aside from the set bonuses (2p/4p) you can gain the same EM numbers on other sets. I was wondering if the set bonuses were so much better than Dendro dmg and resistance reduction.
Fun fact: ixix or 99 (his hair clips) roughly means - "The wish for a couple to be together for long time" iirc.
It has romantic interpretations but if shipping makes you uncomfortable just view it as Kaveh being a romantic person or a platonic superstitious mom.
From his character story, we find that his father died and then his mother moved to Fontaine and found a new husband. He also blames himself for his father's death, and before his father died, he was living happily.
2:09 I'm checking where is 18 thousand 200 damage. I only see 1899
check 2:17
thx for always making this kind of video, its help me a lot as f2p to pull or not.
me too
I know he isnt a budget dendro Nilou but I like his playstyle alot more than Nilous really want more cons for him but dont wanna pull for ganyu or Baizhu lol
When i pair him with an electro unit, i tried fischl in order to not steal cores a d let a mixture of Spead and aggravate come into play. Now we just need a dendro or hydro that can reduce Skill cd or increase attack speed. its comfortable to play him with ER weapon than a mailed flower. with a mika in team is comfortable for those who's like me that like basic attack characters but tbh I'd put hydro that is EM focused or dendro applicator into it rather him.
His C2 gives him attack speed
Bro please make an updated fischl guide(dendro reactions?)
6:45 : ... I did ! xD
PERFECT thanks !!!
I don't get the babygirl meme
I wanted him so i used my saved up 30 wishes ended up c6ing fischl
c6 Fischl is a great value tbh
@ i know but i wanted him so bad
From these videos I like Kaveh’s kit more than Alhaitham’s
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I respect your wrong opinion
kaveh is much easier to use than alhaitham, but once you get to understand alhaitham's kit, he is very fun to play and is probably much stronger than kaveh.
@@EugeneDorkdinkletonBonquavo as an Alhaitham user I just don't understand the problems people have with his kit. It's not that difficult, and if you're using him to drive a hyperbloom team you don't even have to understand much except cooldown management
@@atriyakoller136 probably they don't have alhaitham. Once you have him and use him, you'll understand his CD is not a problem and perfectly fine.
Finally I’m kinda early to a video you posted 😭
In conclusion, Kaveh is a stronk 4* Bloom DPS.
Only 2 wishes in, he graced my screen... 😌
Somehow I won again 50/50 but I didn't get a single kaveh 😭
I only wanted kaveh and got him in the first ten pulls.
i pul for him because i want to use both nahida hyperbloom and nilou bloom in abyss, it was pretty good run
Omg the IXIX hair now i have to say 99! everytime i see the kaveh
Finally, a new character who can replace Nahida in Nilou's Superbloom team, so i can use her in Kuki's Hyperbloom team 😁
I'm doing a mixed bloom/spread kaveh comp
using Kaveh Fischl Traveler Xingqiu
since fischl is bad at hitting the dendro cores you can benefit from kaveh bloom dmg and also the spread dmg
I have nahida but I fear she can steal the hydro and electro effects with her super application
I was wondering if he'd work in nilou teams so i can use nahida on my other abyss team. Also got him cuzbhes pretty 🥰
He works just fine in Nilou teams. But normally you'll want to have a second dendro character for more particles and extra dendro application.
@@ПостороннимВ-й2ю yeah kaveh is the second dendro
I have an account question. I have a lvl 71 prototype archaic. Should I use crystals to push it to lvl 80, or use my lvl 75 debate club for xp? Using the debate club wastes no xp
What the hell it's been 1 year ( btw I'm here because he'll come tomorrow jul-16-2024 )
2:25 still disappointed it's schematics/blueprint and not more of a completely designed smth
Nice, i got Nilou yesterday and later Kaveh. I will put him togheter with Nahida and Xingqiu. For first Half i have a strong Raiden aggrevate Team.
Hes hitting harder than dehya... 🗿
Build koko full em and Kaveh full dps and it might work two sources of dps
Can you make a video talking about the best team for each character? Best weapon, artifact set, and best stats and sub stats. No need to talk about second best except maybe weapon because we all know the best is their signature.
Babygirl
Saw a Chinese player destroying with Kaveh in a fridge shatter team
I wanted him to use with nilou so i can save nahida for the second half of the abyss, is it good enough to use him, nilou, barbara and dentro traveler ?
I mean as long as you have good enough investment in all of those characters it can definitely be done. Just make sure you’re focusing em since you’ll be sharing blooms
@@Cilibi thanks! Imma do it
Hoping to get him as I got Nilou recently but my 4 star luck is rough
You probably already have Nilou's best team in your roster. Nilou Nahida Collei Kokomi.
@@Eanki_ I would not be so sure. E.g. I have no Kokomi, and Nahida is in the Hyperbloom team (Nahida/Xingqiu/Yelan/Kuki), and I am struggling to get the right team for Nilou (as I have no Yaoyao, basically, the only dendro characters I have built are Nahida and DMC, Collei is at Level 1). So, I am seriously thinking of who can help me build a safer and stronger Nilou team, Kaveh or Baizhu, or should I wait for any other characters (maybe I will pull Yaoyao all of a sudden on the standard banner).
I wonder if he at least put the new forgies on his jeep. 🤔
I really loved Kaveh, but i got him c6 and now i can't use him anymore in a HyperBloom team. Also, i have no Nilou
Comments with he dies moAr DmG than DehYa pops again, for God knows how many times. Like IWTL is the person to buff her n I bet most of these ppl don't even have Dehya lol
Hmmm 😅 almost pity...i Should control my self...
Who are you saving for
He better slay with that murse!
Yesss finally Kaveh!!
question : geo team or dendro team is stronger ??😅
And they were roommates
Ugh... I shouldn't pull just for 4*... but my Nilou may need him :(
On a Bloom focused team, does R5 Rainslasher works on par with R5 Mailed Flower? I got him yesterday and I'm quite torn if I should make him use Mailed Flower or should Razor keep it.
I'll leave a comment here just in case someone respond your question.
Same. I have a useless lvl 80 rainslasher too. Don't wanna spend any more resources
For a Bloom team R5 Mailed Flower is most likely better. I assume you have enough hydro application (otherwise Rainslasher is already much worse) and Kaveh triggers most of the blooms, in which case he'll want more EM. He can use ATK% too, but EM will probably do better in his reaction damage.
It's between:
- 41 more EM (Mailed Flower)
- 12% more ATK (Rainslasher)
Imo 12% more attack isn't enough to replace the 41 added EM. If this was between R1-2 weapons, the two would probably perform similarly since Mailed Flower would only have 158-170 EM (with 165 on Rainslasher), but on R5 it jumps up to 206. Mailed Flower will most likely outperform Rainslasher by a considerable amount.
I think Rainslasher might be better if you try to use him in a Spread team, but I'm not fully sure.
@@user89389 I just want to know if the trade-off of 206 EM + 24% ATK of Mailed Flower to the 165 EM + 36% DMG of Rainslasher is close enough for me to consider using it. I'm planning to use him on Nilou Bloom and my artifact of choice would be FOPL. I might suffer from diminishing returns for having too much %DMG, but if the difference isn't too much then I'd like him to use my dusty Rainslasher instead.
I use bloodtainted greatsword on him💀.
It is my highest em claymore, plus it looks good on him
Got Dehya at 13 pity, at nearly 60 pulls now and still no Kaveh :/
where do you get the weapon?
Dendro reactions are very 'affordable' DPS themselves/itself. I don't see how Kaveh is worse than a C0 all-item.
ALL-ITEM 💀
All-item..
Alhaitham...
*dies*
Because c0 Alhaitham is an absurdly strong spread dps that is competitive with the strongest c0 high investment f2p teams of Hu Tao and Childe. Like Childe, he also cheats on his dendro application, bruteforcing icd via his mirrors like Childe bruteforcing icd through riptide.
Bro really compared a 4 star support to a 5 star dps who is also an insanely strong unit
Ain't no way you're comparing a 4 star to the best on field DPS
Why doesn't Hoyoverse just stop lying about interruption resistance? If they are going to make it so damn inconsequential then should just forego it altogether.
Sac great sword have potential i feel
0:54 noice (ʘᴗʘ✿)
What about candace infusion?
my main question is still what's better build for him?
dps crit or full triple EM?
Full em
In a team a full EM build but if you want to try to get high numbers from Kaveh instead of bloom's damage the a crit/EM build.
But the first one will perform better and it is easier to build.
I’m so upset I pulled like 45 times and didn’t get a single kaveh just weapons and Candace smh 🤦🏽♂️ why do they make it so hard to get 4 stars it makes no sense , you should be guaranteed the 4 star of ur Choice after so many pulls
I pulled him to be a tank for nilou cause nahida can't take it anymore
Dps showdown when ??
quick question does he work as a substitute for nahida in an ayato bloom or quick bloom team, I lost 50/50 on dehya and got Kaveh while wishing for baizhu earlier
I’m no expert on ayato bloom teams but if an ayato bloom team can use an on field dendro driver then probably. If it needs off field dendro application then no, he won’t work.
Agreed with the previous answer.
If you want him as an off-field dendro, absolutely not. If you want him on-field then yes. The two might compete for field time but it can work.
I bet if he was a 5*, the cores would use his EM, not the creators...
What about with Raiden?
kaveh's best team is hyperbloom☝️
"Roommate"
With Kaveh adding rooster to the Nilou Bloom, I don't think that nilou is a niche instead nilou is strong/more strong in a bloom team. Like how Hu tao is to Vape and Ayaka to Freeze. You can use ayaka in melt team but from what i see she is more strong on freeze team like Nilou can be used in vape team but bloom is where she shine
Exactly! I have both but I will never understand why if Nilou is niche Ayaka is just strong… different treatment I guess
@@modellodime It has to do with the off-field hydro application that Nilou provides. Her off-field E actually provides slow hydro application as opposed to fast hydro application (IWinToLose had to use Xingqiu in the team comp in order for the hydro application to match Kaveh's dendro application), meaning she's not as good compared to Ayaka when it comes to doing a lot of reactions. Ayaka's burst does a lot of cryo hits, meaning she can keep up with fast pyro applicators.
nilou in non bloom is like a kokomi that doesnt heal. Wtf are u on about.
@@kklap3219 That statement doesn't work when Nilou has been shown to be viable in Vaporize teams.
@@ultimatedespair2368 how does it not work? What does her kit provide over kokomi? Also "viable" is an interesting term to use, considering amber is also "viable".
He's so me
does kaveh needs any crit rate/dmg stats?
Unfortunately hes not as good as the premier dendro drivers which are alhaitham and nahida. Hes still really fun to play though
Nilou is so frustrating
It is a whole different reaction. It is not dendro! With Kaveh, the punishment of self dmg is gone
What is this! It is the best aeo dmg team. There are no very few enemies that require grouping. Everything just rushes towards you
Unless they put multiple stationary enemies in abyss, which is not gonna happen since that will destroy all aoe teams. HYV MADE A BAD DECISION
another OP dendro dps 4star
Kaveh is the Nilou driver for people who don’t want to stress about their health or struggle to fight within Kokomi’s E.
I know they won’t but if they ever do ramp up the difficulty I’d go as far to say that Kaveh would be mandatory for Nilou to even work lol
Kaveh only got here cuz al haitham has his keys
He also buffs bountiful cores... that´s what I wanted to know hahahaha, I can finally release my nahida to another team in the abyss (like hyperbloom) and use baizhu and kaveh with nilou and yelan 😎
Soooo I didnt pull Nilou and now I'm hearing that Kaveh is meh without her. Excuse me while I go cry in the corner
Nah, he is cute and fun even without her.
He is fine without Nilou. His whole "cool" aspect is that he can immediately detonate seeds. If you have Nilou, then Nilou already does that so why have Kaveh when you can have one of the super strong hydro or dendro units instead (Yelan, Alhaitham, Tighnari, Xingqiu, Nahida, Kokomi, Ayato - take your pick)
Worth noting, Kaveh has more resistance to interruption during his burst than Ayato during his skill.
Tried both in Abyss 12 and Ayato's run looked like a ragdoll simulator.
another unit for nilou after baizhou. mhoyo really wants to buffs nilou so bad 🤣
so he DOES boost nilou cores...
By a little bit amount though, 1k em bloom damage is increased by around 500+% and kaveh can increase that by additional 40%... Too dmall. Not to mention nilou can boost the damage of blooms by a larger amount
It's additive and not multipkicative so kinda disappointed
"new vape"? lmao
Hes literally deleting everything with the new bug lmaooo secret 6 star
Kaveh kind of tries to be multiple things and fails at most of them. I guess he’d be nice if you didn’t have Al Haitham/Nahida/Baizhu/Yao Yao for your bloom team, but at that point, why are you building a bloom team, lmao.
He’ll be seeing as much use as Xinyan.
Bro have mercy 💀💀
At least compare him to heizou in terms of usefulness
So he's useless without nioiu?
Him being worse than alhaitham is so disrespectful
he is better in the story:)
Now he can delete the game itself...