How To Play The Jonathan "Sugarfoot" Moffett Cymbal Choke Groove
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- How To Play The Jonathan "Sugarfoot" Moffett Cymbal Choke Groove #Shorts
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Also known as the *"Finger exploder"* groove.
Be careful! Lol
Hmmm
Been there, drums look cooler tho so thats a plus
That sounds kinda sus
are you serious?
Love it, Jay! I’d be afraid of cutting my hands open 😂
I takes a bit of practice and calibration lol
Pain is your friend.
- Jonathan Moffet probably.
@@viktormuerte he actually said something like this in the interview at Dromeo. Of course he didn't cut his hand😂
It’s only ever happened to me once, but when I went to choke the cymbal with the same hand, the cymbal slipped under my finger nail and cut me! 😅
is that a joke or are you being serious?
I've always played chokes this way, didn't know it was less common until my teacher pointed it out
sugar foot could be a new mortal kombat character
🤣🤣
I’ve been doing that for years. It’s so punchy!
Yea it's not a new thing....
When you miss calculate the choke and the cymbal slides under your thumb nail though ….. fun times
Stopppppp 🤮
Yummy
Yeah… don’t do that. Lol
doesn't ring a bell.
With super polished cymbals under stage lights give them a violent spin on release and it looks amazing
Mike Portnoy style 😉 Love his Cymbal spins
I love seeing you attack each challenge with clarity, specificity, and authenticity. I have a BA in music and have taught for 11 years. You are a great teacher and any student is lucky to learn from you. I hope these UA-camrs appreciate you sharing.
that means a ton... thank you Brandon. Where did you get you BA?
@@Thedrummersalmanac I got my Bachelor of Arts in Ethnomusicology: Jazz Studies -Performance from UCLA! A mouthful I know, but basically studied jazz drums under "Brush Master" Clayton Cameron, Kenny Burrell, and a number of other great faculty there.
@@KingShahede Nice.. I love Clayton… I have his brush book.
@@Thedrummersalmanac yes, I love how simple he breaks down everything in the book with simplicity. That said I've been needing to get back into and sharpen up myself.
He said it like he could pull it off , even besides the extra cymbals sugarfoot was using he still had way more style and groove in his playing
It’s a lesson, my man… not a competition 😉
@NPC 2428 …I’m excited to see your demonstration video on this technique. Easy to talk… much harder to walk. 😉
You're doing the lord's work with this video, thanks for this
The technique is used a lot by Akira Jimbo. You can hear it very clearly in the intro to "Domino Line" by Casiopea
If you pay even closer attention, Moffett isn't sliding his stick across the cymbal. He's hitting the cymbal, and grabbing it cleanly. Moffett is one of the most precise drummers, hands down.
Yes, pay close attention, how he hits the cymbal and traces the the stick to his fingers to catch it. This is “sliding…” just very quickly. 😉 look closely… this is especially important when you are not looking at the cymbal… it’s literally a feeling thing. Moffett didn’t invent this, but he great at it. Here’s a clearer video.
ua-cam.com/users/shortstQRmODEDWBo?feature=share
The difference is, when he does it... The stick doesn't make contact with the cymbal on the mute and make that rattle. That's really what makes it sound so good.
You’re also hearing Moffett at full volume, on real cymbals, with a mic’d and produced drum sound… vs my example on low volume cymbals, practice pads with just a single lapel mic. But the technique is the same. Bottom line… If I were to demonstrate this with real cymbals in a studio environment instead of a practice one, you’re not gonna hear that rattle. 😉
@NPC 2428 in what way is it making contact a second time? And I’ll say it again, you are equating a low volume practice setup demonstration as being equal to a full volume/professionally miked up and produced drum set up. They won’t sound the same. My little lapel mic in this video will pick up every little extraneous sound, where as a full volume setup will be much more forgiving. Either way… comments like this are being very knit picky and completely missing the point of the lesson. 😉 …but everyone is entitled to their opinion 🤷🏻
That sliding move is literally gonna have my fingers cut...
Just takes some practice… you’ll be ok 👍🏻lol
Slow and clean is fast and clean
love how professional you are
Hey, Russian drummers here, want to ask you about your cymbals. Is this your home practicing cymbals? Can you use during your performance, for instance if you want to make it less louder?
Sure... They are indeed my practice cymbals. (my normal studio setup is currently in storage.) You could certainly use them in a live low volume setting... I would also use some low volume drum heads as well. Evans makes a Sound Off Drum Head.
@@Thedrummersalmanac thank you for your fast reply) it was useful information
@@turbotvorog7076 anytime, my frined!
There's something special about doing it with the cymbals behind you.
It looks cool…
@@Thedrummersalmanac it looks awesome, that's some next level showmanship
It looks like a good way slicing yourself open to the BONES! It's amazing blow isn't splattering all over the place when he plays! :)
Try the double hi hat stuff (16s) and when your coming back up from the snare(r hand), slide the R hand stick under the L stickn up to the hi hats to hit them, then back to the snare.
He's also using the speed force, you can practice that too and put it in the Grove
Dave Lombardo did this and made it famous on seasons in the abyss
Soo cool. I wanted to be a drummer but ended up guitarist. Play bass and a bit of drums. Keys not much. I find some drummers online to be most analytical and judgemental. I respect their knowledge I don't have when they have put decades of ear and limb coordination training into the discipline. I find it hard to find a perfect drum solo. I'm sure its a well balanced mix of techniques, feel and taste. When I have played the drums live I've kept it within what I know I can do to still be able to keep steady time and get back to the one beat on time. Improvising can be fun but tiring. Always thinking, moving...I wonder how I would be I was a drummer instead.
Every instrument has its cross to bear... at the end of the day, it's all a matter of practice and experience.
I do have a long form lesson on improvising drum solos if you're interested.
gnarly and pain filled when done wrong 😆
The second groove you played was fucking amazing
Fun Drum Stuff!!!
Woah. Nice lesson. I don't need this information, but I would've really appreciated this when I were a beginner.
Yeah alright that's tight as hell
Those cymbals mate, especially the ride sound great
Good job. Keep working at it and you'll get it right.
This guy: *teaches what a choke is*
My drum teacher when I was 5: also teaches what a choke is
Aaaah yes. Dark, dark as the night.
A good teacher never assumes everyone knows, just because you know. 😉
Well, let's be honest. Sugarfoot has legendary cymbal choking skills.
He does
Or you can do sus cymbal rolls and then choke it in a independent phrase from the quads on the rh and rf over the kit.
Sugarfoot uses the same technique. Basically says he lets the stick guide him to the cymbal
Hey, not a drummer but a guitarist here. From the video I can tell that your explanation seems off. What I see Sugarfoot doing is he hits the cymbals not with the edge of his stick but closer to his hand so he instantly mutes the cymbal.
Im exaggerating the motion for this demonstration. Making it slow and big, so it can be broken down and practiced. If you are new to this and try to go right for the choke, the way JM seems to be doing it, you will probably hurt yourself… as others have suggested in this comment thread. 😉
He not only doing it with one hand , he is not looking for the cymbals.
definitely sounds cleaner when you don't slide the stick like that though.
Up to tempo it’s less of a slide… that’s just what you practice to find it. The slide helps control the cymbal so you don’t take your finger off. Lol
When sugar foot does it it sounds cool…though. You are missing the point, by hanging them in that position, he controls the timing excellently, you have a delay, which spoils the timing.
I tried it right after this. Immediately jammed my finger so bad
Can't imagine how many times he's cut his fingers
I was practicing chokes years ago and I put the symbal right between the thumb nail
😫
OUCH
Makes sense, thanks!
One handed chokes are cool, but hard to master like Johnathan. I feel like they're a little more trick than anything else, so it's not something I really focus on... but now, maybe I should
No one cymbal chokes like sugarfoot 🥴🥲
Well it’s not exactly the same set up is it 😂🤪…but at the end of the day, a choke is a choke and this is just a lesson on it. 😉
Like a kung fu master deflecting strikes
Awesome!
Clean
I cut my fingers all the time doing cymbal chokes... need to practice them a bit more slowly and isolated to get rid of the bad habits :/
Damn, that's so cool!!
wow! def stealing that 1
the pain when the cymbal gets under your nail and cutts your finger💀💀
...that's why you practice. 😉 This is not something anyone can "just do" ...You have to go slow and work on the motions. it's just as easy to crack your fingers on the edge of drums & cymbals if you do't know how to hit them properly. So the answer to avoiding injury is practicing and developing the technique.
@@Thedrummersalmanac shure now im having a elictrical drumset so it doesnt hurt so much anymore but you have to find the exact spot to holt the cymbal
This is dope
Like for extra multitasking by looking at the camera at the end
Bobby Jarzombek is the master of this.
This definitely looks practice worthy
That's sick
Be careful if your cymbals are cracked or worn. you will see blood
yo I didn't see his hi-hat and I was wondering what that sound was lol
is that a piccolo snare kit?
those Zildjian LV cymbals seemed like a cool idea, then i heard and played them…why does anyone buy these instead of just cymbal mutes?
I have the mutes.. these feel ten times better then any mute I’ve ever tried… just like with mutes, the sound isn’t really the point.
so.. bleeding is normal right?
Very good 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Anyone got the link for original video?
Just search for Jonathan Moffett and it should come right up.
Good. T４作戦vsバザーリア法
The real secret is no sleeves
🔥🔥
Put the cymbals high up
HAMMER! SMASHED! FACE!
I peeled my fingers 🤌
The other guy doesn't allow those extra skip taps. Come back after you've practiced more
Lol… #practicesetup
@NPC 2428 exactly… the technique doesn’t change… but the sound certainly will. 🙄
Wow
....Bobby Jarzombek
I can't wait for some to do it wrong 😈.
evil... lol
I just tried it and my finger is bleeding rn lmao
Careful
@@Thedrummersalmanac I don’t want to try it again
anybody knows what video it's from ?
Search up drumeo sugarfoot.
I lost a fingeeeer
Just Kidding but that might happen to me 🤣🤣🤣
be careful lol
Woaw
😎👍
Also a magical way to shear your fingernails off
I would certainly start slowly. lol
@@Thedrummersalmanac no pain no gain!
Its sounds terrible that way because you hit it twice while trying to cut the sound. It supposed to be 1 single sound that gets cuts off, not 1 sound that gets another lower sound cut off together
Not sure what you mean, but to clarify, no you don’t hit twice. As you get faster it becomes one quick motion. 😉
@@Thedrummersalmanac I meant him, not the move itself. The way *he* does it sounds terrible, try focusing on the sound he does
Not quite
???
…your tempo!?
@@dftns hahaha… that would make more sense.
Don't agree with me. Cut palm the wet. Okay?
Play it better than he did
better?
Grab the cymbal dummy
*Doing a choke demonstration video with the most cringe choke ever.*
It’s funny how all you people who leave comments like this… have like the same kinda profile. It’s like you’re all interchangeable. And it’s easy to talk and pretend you know your stuff… harder to walk and actually know it. 😉
What are you trying to prove , Jonathan? You look a bit disturbed, to be honest.
Nope
ya don't know until you try... lol
Thanks captain obvious
Obvious for who? If you notice, I am literally answering one of my follower’s questions about it. I thought that was pretty obvious.
@@Thedrummersalmanac obvious anyone watching the original video lol anyway, thanks for replying
You sounded nothing like how jonathan played
Peel your thumb nail back
John did it better.
Duh 🙄
Hahahahahaaa....slk campeão tá bem longe hein nada haver toma vergonha na cara quer ensinar uma coisa q nem vc sabe direito
Welp one of you is trying to make a career on UA-cam the other is a successful touring recording musician sooooooooooo
Moffett is a legend… He does his thing, I do mine. It’s not a contest, my friend 😉
Ok but here’s the thing, you did it horribly
Yeah? What was horrible for you? I mean, there's not really not much more to it. It's not really a complicated technique.
Or was this just “drive-by trolling” …I guess so lol 😂
Seems gimmicky.
It is a bit.
I can't stand moffet
I agree with you. There is something wrong there. He’s not a natural drummer. Very dense.
Nope...so sloppy
I look forward to your demonstration of the technique. 😉
Mediocre drummer who's entire claim to fame is where is places his cymbals 🤣
I'm sure being the drummer for Michael Jackson isn't of any significance.
I disagree... He's an amazing drummer with thousands of hours of touring experience...
Except you’re a is nowhere near as clean bro.
Big difference in the setup there, bro. Low volume cymbals vs normal cymbals. With normal cymbals you won’t hear that extra noise. 😉
@@Thedrummersalmanac nothing to do with the setup. It’s to do with you accidentally double hitting the cymbal with your sticks before actually muting them! It’s technique not cymbal choice.
@@pete3816 Thanks for helping to inspire todays lesson... Hopefully, this clears it up for ya: ua-cam.com/video/ZNe1GX3h6UI/v-deo.html
Doesn’t sound as clear and precious the masters but very nicely done
it's also not on the same setup 😉Low volume cymbals and drum pads... but I appreciate the comment!