Update: I believe this tools works with 90ish% accuracy due to pins that cannot be tested via the dock flex. I am thinking that with prior knowledge of troubleshooting Tristar issues without the tester + the tester, one could probably close that 10% gap. Update: The XR was a Tigris issue! The tester saved me from unnecessarily carving out the Hydra IC. Another look at Tigris, another new IC and the phone is fixed.
The test showed Tigris and Hydra OK. Now you are saying it was Tigris. How can the reader indicate Tigris was good but yet you changed Tigris. A bit confused...
@@lisaforbes3807 Sorry, I was in the car when I first responded. You may not have seen it. The test is showing Tristar/Hydra Ok. Hydra is pretty much just the new Tristar. It's not testing Tigris. You may be thinking of when I mentioned knowing that Tigris is ok. That's because I had already replaced Tigris. After this tester said Tristar/Hydra were ok, I replaced Tigris again and it fixed it. Very much relieved because Hydra is no fun on one of these.
This tool seems to be identical to the existing tristar tester developed by Jan Petermann nearly two years ago. I was hoping to see Ben’s tool as very different than Jan’s. What is novel about this tester versus the one everyone already has? Maybe I missed something. FYI-on the original digital tristar tester it will only work in one direction because it has to probe all 8 lines going to the dock. It can’t do that both ways. The device will say “dock fail” when it really means “flip it”. This device seems to use identical phrasing. Re: cheap breakout boards-that is not how tristar fails. It doesn’t usually create shorts, and never makes open lines that can be detectable by diode mode. The digital tristar tester is a great tool because it is a functional test.
"original digital tristar tester" - i'm sure you talk about the first original u2 tristartester - developed by latif mutluer from turkey - www.vsbelectronic.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=25 - every tester which came after, came just after :). by the way - there is NO patent on any of these testers. there was a try to get a patent on the tester, but the german patent office said it's not patentable. there is no way to protect technique, which already was on the market. so please don't tell things, which are not true. thanks.
So funny your are. and to find That you Watch the apfeldockter 👍 because i been there in the school from Ben to learn. and watching you videos work with CPU reball and Ben is a real hero in this work. I love videos to watch around the world to find people like you. Thank Jason
I’m guessing like the other tristar tester - it will only work face up towards the screen. Can you follow up with what the solution to that XR was? I’m use to my tristar tester (not this brand) missing a few failing tristars that have issues on pins that are not connected directly to the flex.
The XR did indeed wind up being Tigris. I had replaced it before but after seeing Hydra pass on this thing, I went back to it with fresh ICs and it's good.
Nice idea, like I’m doing the do I have battery voltage, do I have charge voltage , what diode readings do I get on tristar power supply and output Yep this could be good
Have you ruled out tigris already? I haven‘t had a single faulty hydra ic, but already 5 or 6 faulty tigris in iPhone 8 and 8 plus... if the Dockflex and connector is ok, and the mosfets in the battery I2C Lines aren‘t loose (when i see good diodemode readings), i would go for tigris first in Ip8 and newer.
This wound up being Tigris. I had replaced it once and was going to go after Hydra next. I'm glad I didn't. I did Tigris again with a fresh IC and it works.
Someone needs to build one cheaper I am going to try to build my own when I have time i’ve seen some reviews of other ones not working so good.. I wonder how this one works keep us posted thanks 😊
There are cheaper solutions, everyone who knows what he or she is doing when repairing iPhones and iPads should know what is going on with the Tristar IC and on the lighting port, all you need is a breakout-board to be able to access those pins easily and a multimeter, to do it easier and faster some comparators/op-amps that turn on LED's at the specific reference-voltage or don't are enough, no one need LCD's or microcontrollers about that, Apfeldoktor just found another way to rip-off people funny for the same price as he take mostly for everything that is worth less then a couple of bucks, the true Tristar-Tester atleast delivers some informations about resistance, voltage etc., which are unnecessary aswell but atleast the LCD has more use than just for advertisement.
Then you should know the target-values if not then just search for Tristar-Tester there is a video from a guy who tests it with several phones and writes down the values, all you need to do then is to use comparators/op-amps and set this voltages as Vref, ok, if you are able to use microcontrollers, Arduino is more than enough, then it is even easier, just AnalogRead those pins and check the values, if you do all possible test before, like with battery and without, phone turned on or off etc. and get those values together, you can get ways more informations about what is wrong with the phone and it would cost you $1.50 for a ProMini clone and around the same for a LCD, maybe the same again for additional parts. I don't repair phones on a daily base so I don't know any of this values or the behaviour, so I can't make an alternative that guaranteed can do the job, otherwise I would do it and give the project free to diy to everyone and not even place my name in the code.
Come on Jason you know how much you love to do XR hydras lol to be honest ive only replaced one so far on hundreds of phones the hydra is rock solid now unfortunately ;)
Love ben pee but I'm not sure I can spend almost 200 for this when the the TriStar tester is only 140. Wonder if the secret feature will make it worth the extra 60 bucks
The price of our ICC PRO is 169 Euro including TAX and shipping (within Germany). The price of the tester you mean is 129 Euro PLUS vat and PLUS shipping. So the difference is only about 15 Euro and we have a third secret feature, which will be released just within the next weeks. So you pay about 15 Euro more and have a third Feature, which has no tester in this world actually.
I would like to see evidence that this device works, because a similar one with aliexpress on 2 out of 5 working phones shows a tristar ic malfunction. And it will be very funny if the secret function is DFU.
Soon. I put the board, cpu & stencils all in the same box (to keep dust off) and have not touched it since the video. I am waiting to be sure and record + share what happens. Have to move some repairs out of here & then I'll come back to it. Should be Tuesday(ish)... maybe sooner, hopefully not later. :-)
How is this any different to Tristar Tester? In fact, Tristar Tester shows you each of the lines... Just wondering what this new product is doing differently.
Nobody ever said it’s a competitive product. It’s a complete own standing product, which isn’t comparable to any other product. Our product shows the name of the faulty line(s) after the test. We only have one button to push and an auto-off-function. We have a bicolor OLED screen. And we have a secret feature, which will be released within the next weeks (we wait for that because other people will try to copy that). We have an USB-C charging port. So it’s a COMPLETE DIFFERENT product. Thanks for your feedback.
Am also Mobile technician from pakistan and am learning a lot from your videos...please tell me that from where you get the curcit diagrams of i phones boards..please reply please
We have a third SECRET feature. We will release that on social media within the next weeks. We can’t do it at moment, because people will try to copy that.
Tony Tone I was wondering. Google Translate couldn’t tell me what language it was but it kind of looked German. Lol! I’m going to start posting videos again soon. I’ve been through a few hundred phones since my last post but have just not had it in me to make a video. Soon tho. :-)
@@ststele I was just seeing what that tool do. Nothing too fancy it seems. LOL : D Being 100% German and I don't know a single word. Hahaha. Trying to be funny.
Update:
I believe this tools works with 90ish% accuracy due to pins that cannot be tested via the dock flex. I am thinking that with prior knowledge of troubleshooting Tristar issues without the tester + the tester, one could probably close that 10% gap.
Update: The XR was a Tigris issue! The tester saved me from unnecessarily carving out the Hydra IC. Another look at Tigris, another new IC and the phone is fixed.
The test showed Tigris and Hydra OK. Now you are saying it was Tigris. How can the reader indicate Tigris was good but yet you changed Tigris. A bit confused...
@@lisaforbes3807 look again!!!!
@@lisaforbes3807 Sorry, I was in the car when I first responded. You may not have seen it. The test is showing Tristar/Hydra Ok. Hydra is pretty much just the new Tristar. It's not testing Tigris. You may be thinking of when I mentioned knowing that Tigris is ok. That's because I had already replaced Tigris. After this tester said Tristar/Hydra were ok, I replaced Tigris again and it fixed it. Very much relieved because Hydra is no fun on one of these.
@@ststele got it! Thanks
This tool seems to be identical to the existing tristar tester developed by Jan Petermann nearly two years ago. I was hoping to see Ben’s tool as very different than Jan’s. What is novel about this tester versus the one everyone already has? Maybe I missed something.
FYI-on the original digital tristar tester it will only work in one direction because it has to probe all 8 lines going to the dock. It can’t do that both ways. The device will say “dock fail” when it really means “flip it”. This device seems to use identical phrasing.
Re: cheap breakout boards-that is not how tristar fails. It doesn’t usually create shorts, and never makes open lines that can be detectable by diode mode. The digital tristar tester is a great tool because it is a functional test.
"original digital tristar tester" - i'm sure you talk about the first original u2 tristartester - developed by latif mutluer from turkey - www.vsbelectronic.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=25 - every tester which came after, came just after :). by the way - there is NO patent on any of these testers. there was a try to get a patent on the tester, but the german patent office said it's not patentable. there is no way to protect technique, which already was on the market. so please don't tell things, which are not true. thanks.
I’m digging the cool look while fixing phones
Jason, do you have a phone that is proven defective and see if the new tester verifies damage ? J K
This there a mobile diagnostic tool for phones? By the way love your videos
So funny your are. and to find That you Watch the apfeldockter 👍 because i been there in the school from Ben to learn. and watching you videos work with CPU reball and Ben is a real hero in this work. I love videos to watch around the world to find people like you. Thank Jason
I should pay more close attention to Ben's work. Might save me from making myself look bad on UA-cam. :-)
I’m guessing like the other tristar tester - it will only work face up towards the screen. Can you follow up with what the solution to that XR was? I’m use to my tristar tester (not this brand) missing a few failing tristars that have issues on pins that are not connected directly to the flex.
The XR did indeed wind up being Tigris. I had replaced it before but after seeing Hydra pass on this thing, I went back to it with fresh ICs and it's good.
STS Telecom awesome!! Thanks for the update :)
Nice idea, like I’m doing the do I have battery voltage, do I have charge voltage , what diode readings do I get on tristar power supply and output
Yep this could be good
Have you ruled out tigris already? I haven‘t had a single faulty hydra ic, but already 5 or 6 faulty tigris in iPhone 8 and 8 plus... if the Dockflex and connector is ok, and the mosfets in the battery I2C Lines aren‘t loose (when i see good diodemode readings), i would go for tigris first in Ip8 and newer.
This wound up being Tigris. I had replaced it once and was going to go after Hydra next. I'm glad I didn't. I did Tigris again with a fresh IC and it works.
Very nice 🙂
Someone needs to build one cheaper I am going to try to build my own when I have time
i’ve seen some reviews of other ones not working so good.. I wonder how this one works keep us posted thanks 😊
There are cheaper solutions, everyone who knows what he or she is doing when repairing iPhones and iPads should know what is going on with the Tristar IC and on the lighting port, all you need is a breakout-board to be able to access those pins easily and a multimeter, to do it easier and faster some comparators/op-amps that turn on LED's at the specific reference-voltage or don't are enough, no one need LCD's or microcontrollers about that, Apfeldoktor just found another way to rip-off people funny for the same price as he take mostly for everything that is worth less then a couple of bucks, the true Tristar-Tester atleast delivers some informations about resistance, voltage etc., which are unnecessary aswell but atleast the LCD has more use than just for advertisement.
Wilson Yes I have one of those boards cost $8 dollars multi meter .. works But it would just be nice to build a digital one little side project
Then you should know the target-values if not then just search for Tristar-Tester there is a video from a guy who tests it with several phones and writes down the values, all you need to do then is to use comparators/op-amps and set this voltages as Vref, ok, if you are able to use microcontrollers, Arduino is more than enough, then it is even easier, just AnalogRead those pins and check the values, if you do all possible test before, like with battery and without, phone turned on or off etc. and get those values together, you can get ways more informations about what is wrong with the phone and it would cost you $1.50 for a ProMini clone and around the same for a LCD, maybe the same again for additional parts. I don't repair phones on a daily base so I don't know any of this values or the behaviour, so I can't make an alternative that guaranteed can do the job, otherwise I would do it and give the project free to diy to everyone and not even place my name in the code.
what model is ur bench power supply
Come on Jason you know how much you love to do XR hydras lol to be honest ive only replaced one so far on hundreds of phones the hydra is rock solid now unfortunately ;)
Scripted review videos have their place, but I prefer the "lets see whats in the box" first impression style for most things.
Thank you so so very much. Sir. ❤️😘🌹
How can I get 1 too
Love ben pee but I'm not sure I can spend almost 200 for this when the the TriStar tester is only 140. Wonder if the secret feature will make it worth the extra 60 bucks
I actually did not check the price.
The price of our ICC PRO is 169 Euro including TAX and shipping (within Germany). The price of the tester you mean is 129 Euro PLUS vat and PLUS shipping. So the difference is only about 15 Euro and we have a third secret feature, which will be released just within the next weeks. So you pay about 15 Euro more and have a third Feature, which has no tester in this world actually.
Thanks for the reply Ben. What is shipping and fees to usa?
Carl Burfeind No Problem Bro. We can use slow shipping (cheap) or DHL Express (expensive). So from 20 Euro to 75 Euro.
Oooow cute little tester, i hope it is true to it's discription.
I do hope you washed your hands and laptop after sitting on the bog lol.
After? I'm still on it! I'm never getting up. Har Har :D (Picturing Kramer living in the shower)
@@ststele
Elaine "This food was in the shower with you ? ? "
Kramer "Hmm mmm, I prepared it as I bathed"
The Germophobe is seen violently dry retching
I have the bell ticked and did not get a notifcation for this!!!!!! bloody youtube
I love it time saver
I would like to see evidence that this device works, because a similar one with aliexpress on 2 out of 5 working phones shows a tristar ic malfunction. And it will be very funny if the secret function is DFU.
When you will upload the cpu video
Soon. I put the board, cpu & stencils all in the same box (to keep dust off) and have not touched it since the video. I am waiting to be sure and record + share what happens. Have to move some repairs out of here & then I'll come back to it. Should be Tuesday(ish)... maybe sooner, hopefully not later. :-)
STS Telecom hope you the best bro
thank you sr
How is this any different to Tristar Tester? In fact, Tristar Tester shows you each of the lines... Just wondering what this new product is doing differently.
Nobody ever said it’s a competitive product. It’s a complete own standing product, which isn’t comparable to any other product. Our product shows the name of the faulty line(s) after the test. We only have one button to push and an auto-off-function. We have a bicolor OLED screen. And we have a secret feature, which will be released within the next weeks (we wait for that because other people will try to copy that). We have an USB-C charging port. So it’s a COMPLETE DIFFERENT product. Thanks for your feedback.
Sir I want to work wit u.
Am also Mobile technician from pakistan and am learning a lot from your videos...please tell me that from where you get the curcit diagrams of i phones boards..please reply please
Google (seriously)
@@pldaniels the Google Fu is not strong in this one :)
Zxw (not free), refox (free)
Secret ... i love secret
So you opened ur sugar daddy’s package and said o wow I thought it would be bigger hahaha
AAAHAHAHAHAHA! :D
Literally LOL'd at this!
STS Telecom how could you not
1:10 You open it wrong. Don't neet to cut, just straighten the "wings" that are underneath. ;)
lol wierd i was just thinking about his today :D
A cég megszűnt!!!
😍😍😍
this is nothing new using a similar device for 2 years now.
Jij ook al hier
We have a third SECRET feature. We will release that on social media within the next weeks. We can’t do it at moment, because people will try to copy that.
@@therepairspecialist1 Uiteraard, ik leer iedere dag.
uko poa sana
Ehm so what's new, we all use the Tristar for a long time.. Its even cheaper. tristartester.com/en/product/smartmod-pro-tristar-tester/
Das Far Fik Knuewgin ya
Tony Tone hmmmmmmm, no clue. 🤔
@@ststele Me either. Just made it up. Sounds German though. LOL ! (Farfegnugen) Google says "driving pleasure" LOL
Tony Tone I was wondering. Google Translate couldn’t tell me what language it was but it kind of looked German. Lol! I’m going to start posting videos again soon. I’ve been through a few hundred phones since my last post but have just not had it in me to make a video. Soon tho. :-)
@@ststele I was just seeing what that tool do. Nothing too fancy it seems. LOL : D Being 100% German and I don't know a single word. Hahaha. Trying to be funny.