Use A Military Survival Belt Rig To Stay Alive In The Wild! LBE
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- I take the old Alice LBE Belt system and turn it into a great day scouting survival belt rig!
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You forgot the one crucial supply that everyone forgets: an extra pair of socks. Trudging around in wet socks makes for a miserable experience. Plus socks can be used for carrying, covering, containing, and concealing. Clean socks and underwear make for a happy camper.
Waterfiltration too.
Eye protection also
I like the way you ask for people who served and wore this belt set up for advice on mods etc because they would know
I have fond memories of chafed hips and shoulders from the LBE😆. I have to say it was pretty rugged and my fav piece of kit is the butt pack. The secret to wearing this to get the most out of it and share the load across your hips and shoulders is to balance out the shoulder strap tension to bear just enough weight so your hips don’t take it all.
Thanks for the info
You are correct
@@ThePreparedWandererbruh... quit waisting your money on fire starters... make them with aluminum foil, Vaseline, alcohol, and cotton ball...
ALICE clips can dig in on long riad marches or patrols.
We use to remove them and used paracord cynched up tight and threaded through the belt holes so the knots would be on the outside of the belt.
Very good choice with the 22 cal. Pistol I use a Mark 2 Ruger pistol that I have owned since 1987 and it is accurate as a rifle out to 50 yards and I guess it's up to how accurate the shooter is . But I can pack a brick of 500 rds of 22 LR. And don't even know it's in my back pack because it's not very heavy and that means a lot to me because I can carry other things that I really need for survival in the woods. I have been out in the Okefenokee swamp for almost a month and only carried my mark 2 Ruger with 6 and 7/8 the inch barrel and I ate very well on small game and on a lot of fish . When I got back home from my adventure trip I gained 12 lbs. Of weight and I figured I would have lost weight but gained weight instead. I made sure I had salt. Pepper and other seasonings I would need especially meds and a good ifac. Carried a couple extra knives. For food and a good K-bar for making fires and shaving fat wood to start fire's at camp and a good matchette and a file for sharpening my matchette and a sharpening stone for my knives. But I enjoyed your video and you have some good gear for the job of being in the wilderness the heavy plastic bags are on my list to get . I had two military poncho's and a bivy for my sleeping bag and a woodie and one wool blanket and plenty of socks and a couple of changes of clothes and wipes and wipeing paper when nature calls and soap and rags and a towel. And plenty of ways of starting a fire and a cook set . I love my time in the wilderness because its good to get away from all the madness in the world and be alone with the good Lord in the wilderness and unwind for awhile. Oh forgot to say if you go to the swamp in the Okefenokee make sure you have gloves like I did and a mosquito net or they will suck all your blood out and check for ticks and carry a couple of small mirrors for that purpose.
I like saws for noise discipline. One wastes less of their valuable fuel source that they are harvesting.
I suggest writing the date on the bag storing your MRE with a sharpie. Keep the sharpie with you. .maybe a booboo kit including moleskins, and binoculars.
Otherwise, interesting. Have fun.
The military makes a pouch that attached to the shoulder strap for a compass. That pouch could carry other small items.
Great Video ! One multi-tool supports the M-15/M-16 weapon. One canteen I have supports the gas mask ! The M-16/AK-47 bayonets with sheath cuts barbed wire... Remember the Ten Essentials by the Seattle Mountaineers. tjl
Some leather, military surplus, 1911 holsters and canvas magazine holders are still available. Machete and sheath are also available for military pistol belts. The small first aid pouches are good for pressure bandages as well as a compass.
My butt pack carried 2 field stripped mre's, a poncho and liner, some 550 cord, watch cap and wool glove liners. Knife on left shoulder front and compass with beads on right shoulder front. Also had 2 ammo pouches and 2 canteens with cups and stoves. I was a cav scout so I very rarely carried a pack, that is what the hummer was for. Yes, I sometimes miss my rig but not very often.
Excellent selection of gear.👍👍 I spent 3 decades wearing US Army rigs (LBE being the first). It's all good stuff. I have a canteen rubber lid. I need to find that alum one that you have👍👍 That holster is a no-go as your barrel/muzzle sticks out 2" in it. It is not good if you are living in the field.
Well set up. I have put together a similar one in South Africa. Not easy to get the components. My butt pack is older on an H harness. Also have a modified medium alice. Have similar contents but no
.22. (9mm due to gun laws). I have the same strategy. I lke your thinking and have subbed.
I am 72 year old bush war veteran regular infantry company commander. Well done, would have liked you in my unit.
Thank you for the compliment mate!! The bush wars were brutal. Glad you made it out alive.
I served in both the Navy as a Corpsman and Army Reserve as a 12B and 11B from the early 70's thru the late 80's. The Marines were the ones that figured out the best way to wear LBE for comfort and accessibility. They wore it with the belt buckle over the naval (instead of everything riding on the hips) which allowed them to carry and have easy access to a knife, multi tool or pistol carried below and on the trouser belt and it wouldn't interfere with the ALICE carried on their back. Shawn Kelly (Corporals Corner) recently put out a video on the LBE vs LBV. I still use LBE to this day, one with a Y harness and one with a H harness which has a larger (taller) butt pack (the H harness works better for this configuration). Which one I use depends on my intended outing. You are right about a .22 cal, growing up there wasn't anything, except dangerous game, that I didn't hunt with a .22 and got clean kills. It is all about shot placement and larger animals didn't know they were hit until they dropped.
Funny timing on his video
The best combination is a load carrying belt and a vest that has the same weight on the front as the back.
I still have mine LBE from the early 70's, only use it for hunting. If you need alot of water thats one thing, but I only run 1 canteen an I live in Cen Fla, plenty of water for a day, but thats just me. You can balance out the belt with 1 canteen with other gear. A belt pad is recommended, as its easier on the hips, more comfy, jus sayin. You need to ty rap your alice clips, there's tutorials on You tube about this that you can look up. An about a .22 pistol, a suppressor an subsonic ammo is the way to go IMHO. Pretty much can see all of the rest, but I wouldnt go full blown grid down SHTF with it, as you stated its for slip hunting in the woods. Thx for the vid
Thanks for the suggestions!
I have a recommendation for this kit, if you can find one, get a belt extension. It is a short piece of webbing with buckles on each end so you can clip it to the pistol belt to make it about 2 - 3 inches longer so if you have to put on or take off layers, the rig will still fit.
Also, I agree with you on the bigger fixed blade, as long as its not silly long and heavy. I carry a 3 inch and a 4 inch folder at all times, I also carry a multi tool and when you add a 5 to 6 inch fixed blade and a small folding saw to that, you don't really need anything else tool wise. The one thing that I do is that large fixed blade might be exchanged for a machete depending on the terrain and vegetation.
The butt pack that you have is the last version of the alice butt pack, I carried one for several years before molle was ever heard of and I always loved my alice web gear (LBE, load bearing equipment) with the y harness except when carrying a backpack of any kind. If you try to wear the pack over the lbe, they interfere with each other and will very shortly after putting them on will cause pain.
Great video, keep 'em rolling.
Thank you for the advice
I rock my lbe too!
Hello, I served in the Marine Corps and the Navy Seabees. Retired now. I've watched your channel for a while now and like your content. I have put together my own rigs as well. I like the way you set your up for your environment. I live in an Urban environment but I go to my nearby parks that have woods to explore and hike. I can't make fires so I practice that part in my backyard. I'd like to say though that when the pandemic hit and we were locked down I did everything in my backyard until my wife said it was starting to look like a houseless encampment so I had to brake it down. It was fun while it lasted. 2yrs. Great fun. I learned so much during that time.
I'm In ! Thanks for the opportunity. Love your reviews and insight.
Sorry wrong vid.
Nice!...Used one in the army in the early 70's and still use one to this day...i was issued the canvas M1956 webgear in 71 along with a few M1967 pouches., .22 cal a great choice for the eastern woodlands...sweet setup Panzer!...woods
I also have an open top chalk bag on the rig, for keeping fine powder, to keep track of wind direction (anti big cat, etc) and heavy duty poncho due to thorn bush. Also sat beacon. Carry more water here too.
Great video excellent choice for a rig. With my experience in the military, I would suggest changing the Y-harness to a H-harness for better comfort and weight distribution. Also, I would add a pair of socks and foot powder....got to take care of your feet.
I wore that stuff a lot in the Army in the 80s. Lots of tweaking of placement for long-term comfort; most importantly where you hook the front part of the harness. Yours looks farther back than I found to be comfortable. A couple of things I always had was a Zippo pouch and a Tabasco pouch.
Thank you for taking the time to show all your items. I have a very similar set up and have been practicing with it. Also I have the Ruger trail lite 22 with a red dot on it, very accurate. You can also carry a medium size alice or equivlant size over that without the frame with no trouble. I even use a paracorded sling/baldrick for my knife rig, folding saw and fire kit. It can all go together or separately, its modular, the wieght is evenly distributed thats what I like about mine.
Wore mine, first as a reservist on 1993/94, then as a Paratrooper/medic until 99. Been wanting to put one together.
Use one for 29 years as a wildland firefighter. Carried thousands of miles. Much better than the systems designed for wff
In Vietnam the silenced.22 pistol was called a hush puppie for obvious reasons.
As for the knife have a look into the British army Martindale golok , can be used to dig with too, pretty good knife
I use 80% military surplus gear, mostly old school, I have that same kit , haven’t set it up for field / scouting use but now I’m interested in putting it to good use . I live here in southern WV and hunting season would be a good time to set it up. I would probably like to go lighter and use one canteen, I have several of those military nalgene canteens, they are the way to go. Watching this video has got my interest up. I believe that the 22 pistol/ rifle are both under estimated. I like to carry a knife bout 5” and a machete and my SAN
Spot on with a bigger knife and a smaller cal. pistol! I also have my SAK always with me... Great vid!
I served. Might want to add a sub-stanment bag in the middle over your butt pack. It can be near the middle of your back, good for hauling game or other gear like small shovel. Something to consider. Also maybe a first aid kit that is self contained and marked. Incase your hurt some one else could help you or you can get to it to help someone else. Good video and thank you for sharing.
my canteen cup cover for several decades was a piece of aluminum foil, until i found a commercial one a couple years ago. i have used & carried what is in your right canteen cover for 43 years. 20 in the army an the rest just camping. i also have a 2nd cup with the other canteen (left side). i use 1 cup/cover (stove side) for cooking. the other just the cup for drinking. also my cover rides in the bottom of the canteen cover. not in any other bag. tried carrying a ruger mark II in a holster. the front sight on the ruger allways catches on the bottom of a holster. it has a sharp arrow style notch on the backside of the front blade. i may have missed this in your video, water purification. if i did skip this. so add a water filter or tablets to what you carry.
Hello 👋 my outdoors friend, greetings from Northern California. Thank you for sharing this informative video. You're set for just about any emergency. All the best to you. Stay safe out there. 🤗
I too, love a belt / harness setup. My truck / get home setup is similar. You might want to look at the Molle 2 patrol pack as a small pack to go above that buttpack. Should fit well.
Really like this type of kit and I like the video I'm going to make this kit for myself thanks
Army surplus is the way to go. I like the H-Strap VS the Y-Strap. With H-Strap I was able to add an addition butt pack stack on top of the first butt pack doubling my carry, but I could not carry my Alice. The H-Strap was also more stable.
I think your analytical process is right on track and on point in that it answers some of the questions a lot of us have been forced to ask given the times we're in. As a "kid" (18) I was issued this LBE / Alice stuff and just wore it and took it for granted. Now the analysis part has become huge. Also, if you can, I'd like to see your kit with added backpack. I'm trying to figure out a backpack that really harmonizes with this sort of LBE and a butt pack.
What I would add is a plan for how to clean utensils. I got dysentery off a dirty fork, so that's just as dangerous as non-treated water. I'm considering powdered soap for utensils that can't be cleaned in the fire and because under tactical conditions ("non-permissive environment") fire is generally not an option.
Thank you!
I need this too.
Good job Sir
Just inherited my grandad’s patrol belt marked 1941. Not “ALICE” per say, but a precursor to it and compatible with ALICE gear, really looking forward to setting it up just like this!!!
You can carry far more 22 rounds than any other
This is a fine kit, I use a similar system, I carry a Ruger 22/45 pistol with a red dot sometimes suppressed, the knife I carry is the terava skrama 240 it has a 9.4 in. blade, it does what is needed, also carry an sak…
What an awesome setup. Then I also like the survival belt idea. I try and use just the belt for every day hikes but will incorporate the Y-harness when adding the “Butt pack” due to the extra weight of course. So thanks for sharing your setup. Let me say as far as the .22 goes I’ve read what you talked about here also and as you stated it does make sense, my belief is an Elk can be brought down with one and has been so it does have a spot for survival, even though I do carry a .357 too so for those who might think different and that’s ok
Thanks again
Have the Esee 5 for yrs
Great info thanks
Well thought out rig. Tourniquet is a must to carry for you or someone else. Thanks for sharing!
Very nice assembly.
Nice, I've been wanting to put together something like this as a haversack replacement using a bunch of old Alice gear I had as a kid. I've got a Dutch day pack that's made to ride high in conjunction with a belt and butt pack like this, and doing this would allow that pack to be solely stuff that's going to stay put during the day, without having another bag slung awkwardly or attached to that one.
Nice thanks for the tips
Love your videos and channel! Great to see another gear junkie enjoying the outdoors, keep it up!
Full o good ideas
Nice setup brother ! I love my LBE setups !!
Good kit, thanks for sharing, God bless !
Yahu kardeşim bu ne güzel bir belt böyle. Abi adamlar sistemi oturtmuş. Medeniyet böyle birşey işte. Dayıcım malzemeler mükemmel.
I knew ALICE in the early 1980's, she can be painful 😢
gotta love deuce gear
To make the weight a lot better spread out your equipment on your belt that way it's not all drooping off the back.When I was in the army we carried a lot more equipment on our belt Plus we use that LBE88 for mags that also can give you additional pouches for additional items but your belt looks good keep up the belt work this ham from Kennewick Washington
I agree with the way that you set this up . Also i am wondering two things one where do you buy the canteanes that you are using? I have been trying to find them and can not also the .22 that you cary i would love to get one also where did you purchase it? I also have one sugestion on the shoulder straps try to move them in one more hole to the front towards the buckle it mite fit a little better and then if needed you can install a sternum strap for better hiking and scouting options it makes it easier for carry and more comfortable. I used one for years while bow hunting and loved it and plan to go back to it. Good work on this project and please keep it up i did serve and you did a good job setting this up. Keep going. Thank you.
Wendell, where can I find those bungees? How many are you using make a shelter with the poncho?
The mountainsmith "day" with a set of strapettes is a great "butt" pack. I've had both the day and tour for years and use them all the time.
In our country. Philippines that is not recommended to wear that in jungle or mountain.. If the police or military see you wearing that they though you are a rebel.. They gonna shot you
It would be great to get some vietnam combat veterans give there takes and use and what was carried in and how on these web gear set up.
Those guys are becoming far and few on utube.
Let's not forget the Grenada and the early mid 90s troops.
Would be great to hear from you troops.
A regular 4"-5" bushcraft knife and an aluminum wedge works much better than just a 6" knife.
Use the knife to start a split and then end it with the wedge and a wooden baton.
U need to check out the Kershaw camp 10 very very good knife for the price but plan on fixing the handle i added a bike iner tube to mine but great chopp
I've been eyeballing those.
The mag pouches suck if youre fully loaded. I hated wearing 782 gear. There are so many better options nowadays. I do still keep the kit I wore 30yrs ago, its bullet proof.. I was able to incorporate a condor padded waist belt, to help pad the green belt.
Where can you get that match vault I like that small diameter
Might want to have orange on>>>>>>
As a 19K tanker in the 90s into the 00s, we first were issued LBE (what you have) but *not* any butt packs because the Clinton Admin had drawn down the DOD budget so much we couldn't afford them.
And since everyone had to be in the same uniform, even if we bought them ourselves on the local economy we weren't allowed to use them.
When we deployed to Bosnia in '95 we were issued LBV (load-bearing vest) as a replacement for the LBE suspenders. Still not allowed to use butt packs. We also didn't have plate carriers either, instead they deployed us to Bosnia and Kosovo to stop the wars there wearing flak vests.
Flak vests don't stop rounds and barely stop shrapnel.
For Iraq and Afghanistan we were finally issued plate carriers but no one really knew how to properly configure them for wear so it was a total nightmare.
Meh. After 4 different wars I'm done with all that junk now.
4:11 Would appreciate link to the Nalgene Oasis canteens. 😉
I have a question. If I want a cheap bushcraft multipurpose knife what would you recommend, love your videos man
What type of ferro rod do you use ?
Would the esee 5 work in your opinion? I know it's probably heavier but I was thinking of it breaking out in the field.
I think it would be a good knife for breaking down wood for sure
Where to get the canteen cup and stove?
Small water purifier?
Straight from Steve Harvey, Vikings Win!!!!
Did you say you could catch some"canned" fish out of a local stream or pond with that mini fishing kit?
No
Mole skin
it was mention in the first aid kit breakdown. thanks
Why were u looking ur left side couple of time? Some thing wrong?😮
During the great depression most game was almost completely hunted out with in the first 6 months. So learn other ways to gather food
Back then, most people still knew how to hunt and fish.
I know many today that can't
consistently take game or catch fish under "normal " conditions
@@maxpinson5002 with so many guns now days, modern tech double the population and call of duty warriors anything moving would be killed off
I’m not too sure I’d want to walk around like that in today’s climate. I agree your idea is great but it’s too conspicuous. I like low key, a haversack and a small backpack and no camo.
Been running the Kifaru Tailgunner since 2009, not cheap, but accomplishes the same result. Less military looking as well.
I used a very similar belt rig (Alice LBE Vietnam issue) during my young ages, and remember of sore hips and shoulders... nowadays I changed to a modern padded belt (Molle) + H-strap and the experience is a much better one! I do not carry guns but my machete is always with me, so I do not need a large knife, and sometimes I substitute the "butt-pouch" (a classic!) and wear a British army gas mask pouch instead, which is also a very nice piece of equipment!
Nice set up.