7 things to know about airgun scopes
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- Опубліковано 26 лип 2024
- Air rifle scopes, mounts and everything you always wanted to know about optics, but were afraid to ask:
1. Scope tube size - 1", 30mm, and 34mm
2. Parallax adjustment - or "focus" in layman's terms (front focus or side focus)
3. First focal plane vs. second focal plane - which is recommended for when
4. Reticle types - duplex, mil-dot, christmas tree, etc, etc, etc
5. Spring rated scopes
6. Mounts - weaver or picatinny, 2-piece or 1-piece? low, medium or high, droop compensation?
7. Proper mounting a scope procedure (www.pyramydair.com/brands/fix...)
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0:00 Introduction
0:33 TUBE SIZES
1:24 PARALLAX
3:04 FOCAL PLANES
4:52 RETICLE TYPES
5:04 STANDARD DUPLEX
5:07 MIL DOT
6:08 SPRINGER RATINGS
7:07 MOUNTS
9:31 MOUNTING & INSTALLATION - Спорт
Simplistic elegant and straight to the point. Even a newbie could understand . Great video brother
Thanks Mitch!
By far the absolute best information for demystifying all my questions (and more) in about 12 minutes, and all in just one video! THANKS!
By far the BEST introduction to scopes I have ever watched! I thought I understood all 7 things discussed in this video but learned a lot. Thanks for the education.
I must say I use the “eye it “ method for scope mounting,and it works fine for me.I used Tom Gaylord video where he opens two eyes and just bisects the rifle with the vertical crosshairs of the scope.Has worked very well for me at the distances I hunt,which generally ,is 50 yards and in. Piss on those levels and plumb bobs and all that other malarkey.
Great video and it cleared up a question I've had for years. I've seen, over and over, where an "expert" claimed that the larger tubes allowed more light to pass through to the eye. Having some familiarity with astronomical scopes and an understanding of manufacturing practices, I knew that was BS. Tubes are made at least as big as will allow all the usable light through. Why spend money making an expensively large aperture only to stop it down with a tiny tube? Just save manufacturing costs by making a smaller aperture since size and cost are related. I was always left wondering, "Since that's a bunch o' bull, whats the real reason?" and your point about giving more adjust-ability makes perfect sense and rings true to me. So thanks for clearing that up for me, and I'm sure, many others.
Tyler! What an excellent video on such an important subject that, one time or another, all air gunners have questions about. Thanks!
Re: mounts - good to mention that one reason to go with the two-piece version is having access for the magazine, or your fingers.
Good call!
Great optics info!
Glad you think so!
Great info all of this is new to me
Very helpful thanks
Thanks Tyler 😊
Tyler,.. thank u these videos are great
Thanks for watching, and the kind words.
Wish this was around 10 years ago
Trial and error gets expensive
Amen to that!
Nice job explaining these topics.
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Good over all video , didn’t know about the torque tool . Would like you to do a mounting of a 2 ring high and one pice using those tools . Thank you Tyler .
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If you're in urgent need of a mounting walk through, Matt Dubber did a great tutorial for Element Optics that you should check out
@@tylerpatner6591 no urgent need you had asked if we would like to see more on a specific topic . Thanks Tyler .
Thanks!
Well this would have been handy earlier today as I just bought my first scope for my first PCP. Ended up with a Hawke AirMax. I think I still made a good choice though.
I agree, good choice!
Good video I like you Thanks 👍🌹
Thank you!
Thanks for the information.
IF I had seen this video before buying my well respected pellet rifle brand I might have not bought a springer, but
"maybe" a PCP.
For my various reasons I *need* a quiet rifle. A PCP probably won't do that for me either, unless I undertake a. college of knowledge research approach. Projectile speed sonic noise is very often not even thought about by newbies in the pellet gun game. People just don't know what they don't know so they sometimes end up making bad decisions by just watching a few video product reviews.
After buying a 3rd party scope for my, supposedly good for accuracy reviews rifle, I'm disappointed that I needed to buy a replacement scope at all. The manufacturers have to deal with price competition so they "include" the cheapest scope they can to make sales. It looks a little like a marketing trap.
With the scope included with my new air rifle even when the crosshairs are in focus and I get my eye the distance from the eyepiece that gives me a "no blackout" in the view I still see the cross hairs move WAAAY off the target when I hold the rifle still, but move my eye up and down or right to left. That causes a lack of accuracy. How can I ever learn where to put my eye to the scope so the scope gives me reliable accuracy? It's a mystery, plus when hunting there's very often not enough time to fiddle around with eye placement in the scope view. That's what I got with my second focal plane scope, the one included with the scope and the new 3rd party scope. A fastened down target stays still long enough for that fiddling around , but vandalizing critters don't stay still very long.
IF I had known about 1st focal plane / 2nd focal plane scope. I might have spent more for the scope for my intended purpose than for the well respected rifle I picked OR might not have bought a pellet rifle in the first place.
I can deal with (did) get a MIL dot scope to adjust for the arc of the pellet trajectory, bit not knowing that greater arc of trajectory plus focal plane differences before hand makes dealing with a pellet rifle harder from the get go.
Then not knowing about the dual directional recoil could cause me to quickly ruin a decent high powered rifle scope mounted to a pellet gun.
Most of that stuff is glossed over OR not mentioned at all in pellet gun video reviews.
Buying a pellet gun that will serve as well a decent hunting rimfire rifle, but be as quiet as needed will cost as much as or more than a decent rimfire rifle with a decent hunting scope.
OK I'm through crying now. lol I just have now to search out and buy a scope that costs more than my rifle.
Please cover: lense covers, camera\ video mounting, thermal and laser ranging systems. Tks😊😊
I am currently looking at a decent budjet scope for springers !
Timing was perfect for this subject 😋
utg bugbuster is the general consensus budget springer scope.
@@TuttleScott they go for about 100$ more in canada {compared to US prices} and are kind of hard to find...[only few items will ship from pyramydair 🇨🇦]
Im leaning towards a hawke scope yet for the warranty {and it is cheaper than a UTG }
@@LowkeyAirgunner Hawke or Leapers are going to treat you well for a more budget minded optic.
@SpringPistonRifleFever LoneWolfStrength I did look for it...hammers ...BSA...vortex all of them!
Ive been looking for 2-3 weeks now haha
The nice 70$US Hammers sell for arround 150$CAD+tax [16%] on amazon...no way I get ripped off this bad 😅
{For arround 100$ or less it might have been the one tho!}
@@tylerpatner6591 sounds good!
I did contact Hawke just to make sure!
The vantage line should treat me well or you would really suggest an Airmax (I guess thats a bit less budjet)
Please give me 3 budget options for my Seneca Dragon claw II, shooting at about 50 yards.
Mantap👍👍👍
Can an air rifle scope be used on a high powered rifle? Probably a stupid question but I hope someone will be nice enough to answer it.
Great video btw.
Please suggest the budget king scope( Under 200$ to 300$).
What’s your opinion? I purchased the scope Discovery LHD-NV
4-16X44SFIR SFO for my PCP high-powered pellet rifle. 1,100 FPS and 70 FPE.
I spoke to some experts and they told me that if I am exclusively focusing on marksmanship/target, shooting with my pellet rifle to a my maximum distance of 300 yards and maybe 400 yards if possible that I should exchange my scope for the first focal plane Discovery model which is Discovery optics LHD 3-12X42SFIR FFP. A minority of people told me that it’s a personal choice.
I have a dot sight on my Umarex Trevox springer and finding that it creeps back on the dovetail mount as I use it. I'm thinking of using lock tight sleve retainer to keep it from doing this. How can I keep my sight from kreeping?
I cut the top U off a mount having 2 bolts, then mount it behind the back scope mount. Has worked for 2 gas piston powered rifles.
This is so complicated that I said no thank you still can shoot with iron sights up to 50 yards gauss some of us are built different
Quock noob question-
I have 2 budget scopes, both 3x9-40.
On one with x3 mag, the same image in the other has to be x6/7 mag.
Manufacturer variance or a fault? I assumed all magnification is the same.
Outside of this the scope seems perfectly usable.
Does pyramid Air sell that torque setting tool
We do, this kit is all in one: www.pyramydair.com/product/fix-it-sticks-airgun-kit?a=10788
Absolutely. It's the Fix It Sticks Airgun Kit. www.pyramydair.com/product/fix-it-sticks-airgun-kit?a=10788
I just picked up a Umarex/Ruger 4x32 scope at a yard sale for 5 bucks. It appears to be in good condition, clear view and no damage. The questions that I have are: 1) What type of scope is it? 2) Is it suitable for both air rifles and 22 lr semi-autos?
if it does not have AO - probably not meant for airguns, unless you are shooting 35 yards and further. Most firearm scopes have parallax adj. set to 25 or 30 yards, while airgun scopes have lower parallax (i.e. - allowing you to focus at not just longer but also shorter distances). Quick and easy check with the scope in your hand
for some one looking to start pcp bullpup or rifle and is a regulated rifle really better than non reg
It's always a trade off. Costs more money, adds parts to the gun, but you get performance like shown here: ua-cam.com/video/O2Xn4kfOgsI/v-deo.html
Depends on your expectations, needs and budget. A regulator is going to typically make the best use of your air and provide better shot to shot consistency compared to a non-regulated gun. That tends to lead to more consistent down range accuracy over the entire shot string, but doesn't necessarily make a regged gun more accurate than an unregged gun.
Would like to stay 350 or so mostly 70 yard and less mught try sneak in to 75 ft 22lr shooting match thats what i am coming from but ammo so hard to come buy
@@tomeickhorst6787 For the price range, the Avenger Bullpup would be the way to go. Great value for the money and the ability to tune the gun to your needs.
Make summary cards available (cheat sheets) to serve as reminders of info in the video trng. Cards shout be 1/3 to 1/2 of a 5x7 index card laminated. Make available for nominal fee ($1) by mail. Good PR for Pyramid and it's a long life takeaway to show your buddies. Pyramid is the industry's class act and info leader. It's the next logical offering if you're the king but not a smug and lazy monarch. LOL.
We are definitely not smug, but we are a little lazy. Will pass it on to our marketing team!
Great info on scopes, it really helps for sure, however why do I keep moving around in the room. One minute im looking straight at you and you engaged directly at me speaking, then for no reason you place me over to the side and start speaking to the person that took my spot, what happened did you get bored talking to me. Im glad to see this multi camera angle style of filming coming to an end on UA-cam videos but for some reason the editor at pyramid air really really likes to use it all the time. Call it "artistic" if you will but when you change the angle its almost kind of rude, one minute your speaking to me and all the other thousands of viewers watching, then for no reason you turn away as if being bored with the viewer and would rather speak to an imaginary person that's not really there. I do enjoy Pyramid Air videos its just this copy cat style of filming im tired of seeing, it takes me away from what is being said. Other than that, thanks for all the fantastic info over the years.
Thank you for the feedback, will pass it on!
Yeah. That is kinda annoying. It's ok if camera angle changes and the host then looks to that camera angle otherwise might as well be listening behind you.
Have a magnum powered nitro piston break barrel that will destroy all of those scopes....at this time most "rated scopes" are NOT RATED FOR MAGNUM BREAK BARREL GUNS...please give right info...just saying....
Even UTG ones?
That's not correct as a general statement. Most of the springer rated optics out there are rated for magnum powered guns just as well as standard or low power springers/gas rams. There are only a handful that explicitly do not recommend their scopes on magnums. As I say towards the end of the springer rating section, it's important to purchase springer rated optics for your springers/gas rams to ensure you have warranty protection should it break in use. At the end of the day, with a magnum spring or gas ram gun, the rating is basically warranty protection should you run into issues, it does not mean that the scope is going to last forever.
@@pyramydair yes....took around 800 to a 1000 shots but killed 3 of them...(bought from you guys...not your fault)....have 50 plus scopes...a bunch SPRINGER RATED...$100-$700....not one has held up....for the last year I have been challenging any AIRGUN RATED SCOPE MANUFACTURING COMPANY to build a scope that can take the beating of these magnum spring/nitro piston guns ... no takers...SO IF ANY SCOPE COMPANY READS THIS...SEND ME A SCOPE AND I WILL TEST IT...IF IT HOLDS UP I WILL DO YOU TUBE VID AND PROMOTE THE HELL OUT OF IT...not going to buy anymore because I'm done wasting money on so called AIRGUN RATED SCOPES..
P.s. have been tuning and building airguns (break barrel...co2...pcp) for 35 years...not a rookie....these guns are a nightmare on scopes...fun as hell to shoot...
@@tylerpatner6591 sorry you have that backwards....95% of springer rated scopes not rated above 12ftlbs... read fine print...I have researched this for years...
@@RAM-19 I can't speak for the optics industry as a whole, but most everything you see on Pyramyd Air is rated for above 12 FPE. Hawke used to have this rule for a few of their lines, but has since removed that from most of their descriptions.
You just make crap up as you go along?!? Parallax has nothing whatsoever to do with focus. "Observed displacement of an object caused by the change of the observer's point of view"... regardless of focus. You can't trust anything someone like this says... they are talking for the purpose of making money and are totally unreliable. Stay safe.
How about the other type of parallax correction? Like when you move your head around but keep the rifle still and the red dot / reticle stays on target visually. What do you call that?
Watched 5 videos all had price in pounds, pounds is weight not money this is America
U talk about nunbers used by scopes