F-150 EcoBoost (3.5L) Vs. Sierra AT4 CarbonPro (6.2L) DRAG RACE!
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- Ford F150 Ecoboost Vs. GMC Sierra 6.2
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Thanks to everyone for watching!
Welcome to Episode 17 of Ordinary Drag Races, we're glad you're here!
For this episode we have two of the fastest half ton pickup trucks currently on the market, the F-150 3.5L EcoBoost and the GMC Sierra 1500 Carbon Pro with the 6.2L V8 engine.
Both of these things have a ton of power all throughout the RPM range, both of them have 10 speed transmissions and they also weigh within 200lbs of one another - this was a fantastic race!
Please keep letting us know what vehicles you'd like to see pitted against one another and we'll do our best to make it happen!
A big thanks to Robinson's Filter Solutions for lending us the GM!
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For everyone asking, we were able to get our hands on two brand new trucks and run this race again! Here's the 2022 F-150 EcoBoost (3.5L) Vs. a 2022 Sierra AT4 6.2L - enjoy! ua-cam.com/video/zTsARHFn35c/v-deo.html&ab_channel=KingdomAuto
I don’t think the GMC would stand a chance against the powerboost
@@royweatherford64 looks like you already saw the video we did where we raced both of those trucks :)
ua-cam.com/video/0BxjeqNgPw4/v-deo.html
The GM definitely does stand a chance for sure but the PowerBoost has the faster 1/4 mile time and comes out on top. For us it came down to the launch. If the Sierra was launched better or sooner than the PowerBoost then it was able to take the win. But at the end of the day, the PowerBoost is definitely the faster truck
"This thing has stinkin powwwwweerrr"
That 6.2 BARELY beat that ecoboost, lmao.
It won pretty easily for a 1/4 mile race
Considering the F150 has turbo and still couldn’t beat the Sierra shows how terrible Ford is.
Glad to see the 6.2 finally win a race. Most UA-cam video I see it gets whooped on.
Yeah we have heard similar comments from other people. We’re not entirely sure why this one was so fast, possibly the differential ratio? But it even kept up with the new F-150 PowerBoost as well. We’ll be releasing that video in the near future :)
@@KingdomAuto because the sierra had the 10spd too. That was the advantage the 3.5 had but now with the 6.2 having it too the stronger engine shines.
@@BLACKLACDTS Yeah that makes sense for sure. We were very surprised at how quick they GM is, fun race :)
Because they use a previous gen ford 🤣 the 21 fords have more power
@@freedomisntfree_44 It’s mainly because the new 10 speed 6.2’s are just a lot faster than people realize. They keep up with the new PowerBoost. Keep in mind we’re racing at sea level too which gives the 6.2 all of its available power.
You’re bang on about the newer EcoBoost’s having more power but this GM even keeps up with those too. It’s just a fast truck
Here’s a video of the GM vs the PowerBoost for reference:
ua-cam.com/video/0BxjeqNgPw4/v-deo.html
WOW that was a great race, I think the eco boost could smoke a 5.3 easily though
Yeah agreed on both accounts! We actually raced that same GM against the new F-150 Hybrid PowerBoost as well, that video’s not out yet but that one was absolutely wild. It’ll hopefully be released in the next couple months :)
the 2022 3.5 smokes my cammed 6.2
can confirm i raced my buddy of a 30 roll and he was left in the dust, the only problem I had is that from a dead stop it just wants to spin
The 5.3 is the slowest of all 3 american trucks.
I can 1000% confirm this, I currently own a 2016 3.5L (pleasure) and a 2019 5.3L (work) Both trucks are 4dr with 6.5' box, both 4x4, (both leather) both stock. My "ferd" is way faster than my Silverado.
Need to break boost the eco boost. About 3000 rpm. Then let her rip. Makes difference.
We did that in the updated version of this race, where we raced a 2022 F-150 3.5 Vs. a 2022 Sierra 6.2. New F-150 has more power and we were able to make the race happen. Same result though lol. Video here for reference:
ua-cam.com/video/zTsARHFn35c/v-deo.html&ab_channel=KingdomAuto
I have a 21 Chevy TB with a 6.2L. I’ve never loved a vehicle as much as I do my truck. Just getting on the interstate makes me smile as i start pushing the pedal further to the floor.
It’s pretty wild how much useable power that engine puts out. We were very impressed at how much the GM just kept pulling! We also raced it up against the new F-150 PowerBoost and that was a fantastic race. It’ll be uploaded in a few weeks :)
Yess sir, love my 2021 trailboss i put a pulsar lt on it and omg its a race truck now.
I love my 6.2 beast…power whenever I need it!! Nice job people!! I always wondered about a real world race bet went the two.
They are really strong engines! And yeah exactly, they make power all throughout the RPM range as well.
Thanks for your comment! Stay tuned as well because we race that same CarbonPro against a new F-150 PowerBoost, the 3.5L Turbo Hybrid.
That was such a great race! Probably coming out in the next couple months. All depends how fast we can edit 😂😂
I have the 18 6.2, with a BTR cam, 2.9l Whipple blower, and HP tuners tune..... Smiling every day!
@@lloydchristmas8282 That thing must be wild!
@@lloydchristmas8282 thinking about getting a whipple 2.9 for mine & some other goodies. How much horse power & torque you get out of everything? Idk if I should do twin turbo or whipple
@@gbrewer1296I have not put it on a dyno. But I thought heavily on putting on a turbo, but chose the Whipple for the instant punch and not having so many other parts where failure could occur. Every thing was there and nothing had to be modified or fabricated.
Try the ecoboost in 4x4 sport mode. It makes a MASSIVE difference!
We did actually but just didn’t include it because the GM won by a larger margin lol.
Keep in mind we’re racing basically at sea level so the big V8 has all of its power. You can even see how well the 6.2 Sierra did against a brand new PowerBoost here too. They’re just quick trucks!
ua-cam.com/video/0BxjeqNgPw4/v-deo.html
Ya Ya try this try that…ecoboost lost 3 in a row face it that 6.2 V8 is a beast!!
This is total bs. I jave killed a few 6.2 shitfillets, with my 18 eco. If they were faster, i would buy one tomorrow. Nice try
@molon labe 😂😂 ok. We don’t have any bias on this channel. We line the vehicles up, we run them (in various different modes, with and without brake torquing, etc) and that’s it. There are TONS of factors that can affect the 1/4 mile time of trucks these days. Elevation, trim, rear end ratio, how far the race is, etc etc etc. Additionally, the newer Sierra’s with the 10 speed transmissions are very quick. The Sierra has come with the 6.2 for a long time but had a 6 speed for ages and it was a dog. The new 10 speed tranny did wonders for the acceleration of that GM. Also consider that we race right at sea level too (altitude makes a massive difference when comparing NA vs Turbo engines) so the 6.2 has all of its available power. To give you an idea of how fast that truck is, it even keeps up with the new PowerBoost, as shown in the link below. The PB does have the faster 1/4 mile time but only by a hair. Bottom line it’s just a fast truck.
m.ua-cam.com/video/0BxjeqNgPw4/v-deo.html
@@KingdomAuto Yes the 10 speed 6.2s are a bit quicker. It was nice of Ford to co-design that for them because of all the problems they have had with there own tranny's. I'm at Carolina Dragway at least once a month running my turbo Mustang, and we are at sea level. Nothing like killing tuned 6.2s with the truck I towed my car to the track with. Never thought I would ever have a 6 cyl truck. If someone builds a faster v8 that will also out tow this Ecoboost, I will buy it.
Good comparison. Seems like the 3.5 is cracking on everything now a days. Guess if you want anything that'll give the 3.5 a run, gotta get the biggest V8.
They sure are quick! And the F150 in this video is down on power compared to the newer ones as well. Around 2020/2021 Ford tuned the 3.5's up quite significantly to make more power and tq.
Well then you go get a tune and walk away from the biggest V8 easily
@@randyschmidt19 True, but that could be said about anything. How fast you want to go just depends on how deep your wallet is. Stock for stock, that 6.2 GM is seriously quick, especially at sea level. It even keeps up with the new Ford PowerBoost as well (just a hair slower) ua-cam.com/video/0BxjeqNgPw4/v-deo.html&ab_channel=KingdomAuto
@@KingdomAuto yes but the gains are over 100hp on an Ecoboost for around 500 dollars. You would need much deeper pockets to catch it on a NA truck.
@@randyschmidt19 Yep very true! But that $500 turns into thousands when the turbo’s and surrounding components (and potentially bearings/rods) go on the 150 though haha, seen and heard of it happening many times on those 3.5’s.
There’s always a trade off somewhere.
No denying that those EcoBoosts can be serious performers with a small amount of work though, totally get what you’re saying.
Be sure to check out the race we did between an F-150 PowerBoost and this same 6.2 GM here!
ua-cam.com/video/0BxjeqNgPw4/v-deo.html&ab_channel=KingdomAuto
Finally someone racing them not on elevation? That other channel every single race ecoboost wins bcuz they're killing na motors
Yeah we’re pretty much right at “sea level” where we film. On this channel you won’t ever find any bias or fixed races :) not saying other channels do that, but we’re just out to have fun, and race ordinary “every day” vehicles. Hope you enjoyed!
So I have to subscribe lol.
So many car channels...talk too much and then the racing is minimal.
You guys nailed it. Talk/Race ratio is perfect 👌😜😆
Can't wait for more vids.
P.S. Do a 2021 f150 5.0 vs 2021 Silverado 5.3 lol. I have a 2021 f150 5.0 and love it.
Really appreciate your comment :)
We do try hard to keep the talking short. It’s hard when we have to introduce the vehicles, and talk about the specs, etc but we make a huge effort to keep a good balance.
Also thanks for your suggestion! We’re currently on the hunt for both of those trucks, but if we can get our hands on them, we’ll make it happen!
Cheers :)
Need to update this. The new Ecoboost has 400 hp and 500 ft lbs of torque
Yep we're well aware :) We did this race because the trucks match up well on paper + we had them available so we got them out on the track. We also ran that same Sierra against a PowerBoost as well though and overall it's just a really fast truck. It was only around 1/10th of a second slower in the 1/4 than the PowerBoost.
We think it's because we're racing at Sea Level so it gives the GM all of its available power. That + the new 10 speed transmission really helps it get up and go.
Video of the PowerBoost here for reference:
ua-cam.com/video/0BxjeqNgPw4/v-deo.html&ab_channel=KingdomAuto
Here's the updated race with a 2022 F-150 Vs. 2022 6.2 AT4 we just uploaded:
ua-cam.com/video/zTsARHFn35c/v-deo.html&ab_channel=KingdomAuto
Jee golly, I thought us Minnesooootans had an accent. 😆 You guys must be north of us in Canada, eh?
Hahaha we most definitely are up in Canada 😂
I'm in Manitoba no one talks like that here. Your definitely east coast Canadian lol
@@leebilodeau lol, we’re in Ontario.
I say it's not a fair race because you got the carbon-fibre GMC now you should get the 2019 F-150 Limited with the high output 3.5 EcoBoost or brake booster 2018 EcoBoost and then there fast to take off
It's not really about fair or unfair. The series we are filming is simply about daily driver vehicles, racing against each other (Hence "Ordinary Drag Races"). In this case, the GM is faster. Check out our other videos to see what we've been doing:
ua-cam.com/video/DK-VUTu3fnY/v-deo.html&ab_channel=KingdomAutoConsulting
We had both of these trucks available, both of them look quite even on paper (very similar power to weight overall), so we matched them up on the 1/4 mile and the GM came out on top.
Also, we did brake torque on the second race to see how fast we could get both of the trucks to go.
All that to say, we also race this same GM against the new 2021 F-150 Hybrid PowerBoost - that was a great race too. That video will probably be out late spring 2022.
Hope that helps clarify what we're doing though.
Cheers.
What about racing the gmc against the high output ecoboost in the F150 platinum? That should be interesting.
We thought about that as well, it would certainly be an interesting race! We haven't found an F-150 Limited yet but if we do we'll try to get it out on the track! We did however have access to the new F-150 PowerBoost and we raced that against the GM CarbonPro. That video should be out in the next few weeks! Very fun race :)
The limited is the only one that has the high output.
put the sierra against a new powerboost 3.5 that would be a great race
Already done my friend :)
ua-cam.com/video/0BxjeqNgPw4/v-deo.html
You’re right; it’s a fantastic race!
Also stay tuned because just next week we’re releasing a video of the 2022 F-150 3.5 EcoBoost (Ford tuned up the power in 2021 on the 3.5’s) Vs. a 2022 Sierra 6.2 AT4.
Another good one!
Why don't you lineup a 2021 3.5 ecoboost. I have one and it smokes the 6.2.
Yeah the newer ones were tuned up a bit more. By chance have you raced an F-150 PowerBoost? How did your truck do against that?
We have a video coming out soon where we raced a PowerBoost against this same 6.2 and it was one of the closest races we’ve filmed so far.
If we can find a newer 3.5 EcoBoost, we’ll try and make that happen as well.
@@KingdomAuto Car & Driver have the PB and standard ecoboost both doing 0-60 in 5.3 seconds. Both a hair under 14 in the 1/4 mile. The PB makes more power and torque, but also weighs around 600lbs more so that really negates the extra power.
@@jlor7675 Yeah we’ve seen that as well. It’s neat how both trucks are so even :)
Make sure you stay tuned for the race we’ll be releasing of the CarbonPro Vs. The PowerBoost :)
Here's a new race with a 2022 F-150 Vs. 2022 6.2 AT4 we just uploaded:
ua-cam.com/video/zTsARHFn35c/v-deo.html&ab_channel=KingdomAuto
3.5 eco boost is trash coyote all the way
As a racer I know the driver makes alot of diffetence... it is cool that the little v6 has 1/2 the displacement and is right there. NA motors are so inefficient compared to boosted motors... it takes more to make more. Not bad but I have raced several gmc 6.2 trucks and this never happened... interesting for sure. I would like to see fords best (powerboost) against gms best 6.2... that would be more fair imo
In a situation like this, the driver really won't make much of a difference at all (when racing faster vehicles that are harder to launch, or racing around a track, yes, you are absolutely correct, but in a case like this; not so much). Apart from turning the trucks on Sport and putting your foot to the floor, there's not much else that can be done (yes we tried brake torquing as well and no change in the result, including brake torquing the Ford and not doing the same in the GM)
The reason we put these two trucks up against one another is because up until this point in our series, the F-150 was king of the hill in terms of everything else it had raced. We found a 6.2 GM and lined the two of them up and this was the result. So it wasn't really a case of "what's fair" as it was "can anything beat the 3.5 EcoBoost"?
Keep in mind that the older 3.5 F-150's were down on power compared to the newer ones, by a pretty significant amount as well.
Ford's best is actually the Limited F-150 which puts out the same HP/TQ numbers as a Raptor, and although the PowerBoost makes more TQ, it's also far heavier due to the batteries and hybrid motor, so overall power to weight goes to the Limited; it would be amazing to get one of those out to the track!
But as for your comment about the PowerBoost Vs. the 6.2 Sierra, yes, we have done that. The video will be released soon :)
Cheers!
That Ecoboost engine is going to wear out ALOT faster that the 6.2. That much stress on a small displacement engine does not spell longevity.
Love the 6.2! But you should have also done the race in 4x4. That's where the ecoboost shines. It can put all that low end torque down off the line. I still think the 6.2 would have edged it out tho.
We actually did do one run in 4x4 and it didn’t make a difference lol. So we just didn’t include it. Gotta remember - this F150 is an older model, before Ford cranked up the power, so the 6.2 has quite the advantage.
We have a race coming out soon between the F150 PowerBoost and this 6.2 GM (raced them both in 4x4 and both trucks brake torquing) that was a wild one
@@KingdomAuto wow that's crazy! I know that ecboost makes gobs of torque at much lower rpm.
Can't wait to see the powerboost tho!
@@camonly849 Yeah, we should have included that 4x4 race in the video 😂 but we tried everything to try and make the race more even and that 6.2 just wiped the floor with the 150, we were both really surprised.
The newer ones are quite a bit faster though, both the standard 3.5 and the PowerBoost. And they can really compete well with the 6.2 + you really see them shine when you brake boost/brake torque on the launch.
The video between the 6.2 and PowerBoost should be out next week :)
@@KingdomAuto ya those ecoboosts use to beat the old 6.2s but I think that's because of the weight and trans. The lesser weight and 10spd in the GM's is a great combo.
Can't wait for the powerboosts!
@@camonly849 Yeah agreed! We were both really surprised at how fast this new 6.2 GM is. And it launches REALLY hard too, that was why we actually didn’t include the 4x4 race in this video, because it beat the F-150 by an even bigger margin 😂
Yeah the PowerBoost Vs. GM 6.2 is in the process of being edited right now actually. Gonna try to have it done by August 1st :)
That 6.2 just can't compete with an Ecoboost once tuned, stock for stock it does good but once that eco is tuned it gains 100 hp and 150 tq at the wheels no comp
Yeah that makes total sense. We’re more interested in stock, factory type races as there isn’t really a channel that does this kinda stuff. But yeah tuning that 3.5 makes it a rocket
@@KingdomAuto makes total sense, there should be a channel showing how much hp each truck gains with x amount of money in mods so people that really wanna go fast know they're not gonna be 10k deep into a supercharger to compete with someone with just a $600 tune just because it was rated higher hp or torque from factory.
@@cameronk3601 One day if we can afford to do something like that, we would for sure - it's a great idea!
funny how this is the only channel where the GM beats the ecoboost.
There is really only one other channel that’s raced them in a full 1/4 mile and that’s TFL truck. They’re in Colorado, 5000 ish feet above sea level. The turbo’d engines are at a huge advantage up there. Our track on the other hand, is right at sea level. Big difference.
Take a look at the 1/4 mile times posted around the internet for the new 10 speed 6.2 Sierra’s/Silverado’s. They’re right on par with the new 2021+ 3.5 EcoBoost’s. There’s plenty of footage around that shows how fast these trucks are.
The older versions of the Chev with the 6 speed transmissions were dogs, very slow. New 2021+ have far better gearing for racing.
We go over a bunch of those details in this video here:
ua-cam.com/video/zTsARHFn35c/v-deo.html
You can say what you want but we don’t have any bias, we just line the vehicles up and race them. Plain and simple.
Gotta brake boost ecoboost is way faster
We did, watch all the races :) GM still took them all.
Stay tuned though because we race that GM against a PowerBoost as well.
That video should be out in a couple weeks or so
But what about the V8 F-150 vs this truck? Also, I thought a twin turbo V6 would be much closer than this to a N/A V8. But then a 6.2L is larger than average.
The only V8 option for the F-150 is the 5.0 Coyote. It's no slouch but the 3.5 EcoBoost trucks put out more power and are faster too (depending on the rear end ratio). The F-150 in this video is a 2018, and a couple years later, Ford cranked up the power in the base 3.5L EcoBoost engines. So the new 3.5's are even faster than this one. We have a video coming out soon (ish) of the F-150 PowerBoost Vs. The same GM in this video. That one was a blast
Hey guys, especially with trucks the actual weights will vary widely from what you find on google.
0% chance they F150 weighs under 5k lbs.
fortunately there is a better way (weigh hehe)…
On the driver door jamb are two stickers. One will give you a number for “Payload.”
Another will give you a number for “GVWR”.
GVWR minus Payload is the weight of the specific truck you have in your hands as it left the factory, with all fluids but before any driver or junk.
The more you know 💫
Really appreciate the info, thanks! Yeah we have been having a hard time finding actual weights for the trucks we’ve been racing. We’ll give those door jam stickers a look from now on, thank you!!
@@KingdomAuto holy cow you guys DO look at comments on old vids! Good for you guys, no one does that anymore. 👏 Appreciate it, good on ya. Good luck with channel! Really like the premise.
@@upshifter5316 We look at every comment on every video almost daily. Feedback from our audience is very important :)
Tune that F150 it’s a total game changer. Around 100 hp from a good tune.
Yeah that makes sense, they do respond well to mods. Our series focuses mainly on stock vehicles and which one is quicker from the factory. But if we ever found one that was tuned we’d likely get it out to the track :)
It's already twin turbo it's not stock 😂
@@JoseRodriguez-vm5xm The 3.5 EcoBoost engines come stock from Ford with a twin turbo setup :)
@@KingdomAuto thats what he said, modded. lol!
Haha so they’re “modded” from the factory then? 😂😂
There’s a video where they raced a new 2021 gmc 6.2 vs a 2021 f150 5.0 and the race was way closer than this one. The little 5.0 barely got edged out. That being said, I think people think too highly of their Ecoboost and get way over confident.
Oh wow - do you happen to have a link to that video? Would be great to see that.
Must be the 10 speed paired with the 5.0 that helps it to keep up.
It’s worth noting that the 2018 F-150 we used in this video doesn’t make as much power as the 2021+ 3.5 engines.
But we have also raced the same 6.2 Sierra in this video against a new PowerBoost and it was only about a tenth of a second slower in the 1/4 mile than the PB, which was just crazy to us.
Video for reference here:
ua-cam.com/video/0BxjeqNgPw4/v-deo.html
We race at sea level too which gives NA engines all of their available power too, this can make a big difference.
All that to say, we’ve just found that the brand new 6.2 Sierra’s with the 10 speed transmissions are just a lot faster than the older versions of the same truck + faster than people realize, especially at sea level.
For us, we were both very surprised as to how quick it was
@@KingdomAuto It’s on the channel called Livernoise Motorsports and Engineering. They raced the Ford 5.0 twice against the 6.2, and you’ll see that the 5.0 didn’t lose near as bad as the Ecoboost. The 3rd race is when they tune the truck and then it edges out the 6.2 Chevy.
@@Twizztify Nice thanks! Will have to check that out!
Can’t see that, 3.5 walks away on the 5.0
Not sure who or where your getting your info from.
@@mcmuskie2563 it’s never been a secret that the 5.0 with the ten speed makes more power up top than the eco. Trust me, on the big end, the new 5.0 will catch the eco.
In my opinion, the Raptor vs the AT4X would have been a better match. (non 35" tires) they're both off road minded, closer on power, and closer on weight.
Might be a good race - hard to get our hands on those trucks but if we can, we'll line them up :)
The two trucks in this video are much more focused on the daily work truck/commuter tasks and are actually very even on paper when looking at power to weight.
We've also done a new 2022 F-150 Vs. Sierra AT4 6.2 and a PowerBoost Vs. 6.2 AT4 as well.
Videos here for reference:
2022 F-150:
ua-cam.com/video/zTsARHFn35c/v-deo.html&ab_channel=KingdomAuto
PowerBoost: ua-cam.com/video/0BxjeqNgPw4/v-deo.html&ab_channel=KingdomAuto
The 6.2l GM seems to be in the middle of the F150 3.5 ecoboost and the F150 Raptor
Yeah could be! We haven’t ever raced a Raptor so we can’t personally say. We did run this race again though with the updated 2022 F150 that has the higher output 3.5. You can check that out here:
ua-cam.com/video/zTsARHFn35c/v-deo.htmlsi=b6V93AaTF_WEv4bE
2022 ecoboost is 400hp and 500 torque.
Yeah they tuned up the newer models and released them with a little more power. They’re quite a bit quicker than the 150 we used in this video as well. We raced a PowerBoost against this same Sierra and that was a wild one, not released yet so stay tuned :)
6.2 has 420
@@zackhohman17yearsago92 but only 460 torque.
@@zackhohman17yearsago92 Apparently the new 2021+ 3.5 EcoBoost F-150’s are about the same in the 1/4 mile as the new PowerBoost. We released a video recently of the PowerBoost vs. The same 6.2 Sierra in this video and it was a very close race.
So it seems the newer F-150’s slightly edge out the 6.2 Sierra’s especially as you get higher above sea level.
Our track is 500 ft above so that helps NA engines to reach their full potential
Here’s the video in case you are interested:
ua-cam.com/video/0BxjeqNgPw4/v-deo.html
@@kona6451 Here's a new race with a 2022 F-150 Vs. 2022 6.2 AT4 we just uploaded:
ua-cam.com/video/zTsARHFn35c/v-deo.html&ab_channel=KingdomAuto
Just curious how many miles was on each truck and what's the difference in fuel economy
The F-150 had about 60,000kms more than the GM, but keep in mind that the 150 is the older version of the EcoBoost, prior to when Ford tuned up the power - this is likely why the GM ran away with the race so easily. As for fuel efficiency, we're not really sure. These aren't our trucks, we just bring the vehicles out to the track and race them :)
Something is wrong with that Ecoboost. Launch in sport mode 4wd with traction set to sport (tap three times) and no way that 6.2 is keeping up unless the Ecoboost had a fatal flaw.
Nothing’s wrong with it, it’s mainly that the newer 6.2’s with the 10 speed transmission are far faster than people realize. Also consider the fact that we are racing right at sea level. Most people refer to the video TFL truck did when they raced these trucks - but they race at 10k feet above sea level which puts the Sierra at a huge disadvantage.
We raced this same 6.2 Sierra against a brand new F-150 PowerBoost (with the truck in sport mode and launching in 4wd just as you said) and the GM was only slightly slower in the 1/4 mile. Bottom line it’s just a fast truck at sea level
Here’s the video for your reference :)
ua-cam.com/video/0BxjeqNgPw4/v-deo.html
Have a 2020 RST with a 6.2L 10 speed and it’s the tits. It was that or an F150 limited with the High Output but couldn’t justify the difference in cost
Yeah agreed. Ford folks don't seem to know how quick those newer 10 speed 6.2's are (ourselves included). The older GM's were quite a bit slower in the 1/4 mile compared to the 3.5 EcoBoost trucks but that new 10 speed transmission is wild.
Could also be that TFL truck raced these trucks about a year ago and the GM lost by a landslide but that's gotta be because they're racing at 10,000 feet above sea level. Our track is only 500 ft above so the GM makes way more power with more oxygen.
Another thing to note is that Ford tuned up the F-150's to make quite a bit more power in 2021 so the newer ones are much more evenly matched to the 6.2 when compared to the F-150 we used in this video.
What was very surprising to us though, was that the 6.2 even hangs right with the new F-150 PowerBoost as well.
You can see that here:
ua-cam.com/video/0BxjeqNgPw4/v-deo.html&ab_channel=KingdomAuto
No matter how you spin it, those 6.2's are FAST trucks!
@@KingdomAuto nice races! You got a new subscriber 😀
@@darrin2053 Much appreciated! We're actually lining up a brand new 6.2 Sierra Vs a 2023 3.5 EcoBoost next week as well. That video will likely be out closer to November/December but we're PUMPED to get those two out on the track. Lots of content to come. Thanks again!
So how did TFL Truck race these trucks and come up with a totally different conclusion? I had a 2018 2.7 Ecoboost and it would dust a 5.3 Chevy (did it countless times). Now I have a 2021 3.5 Ecoboost and it shreds.
Could be a number of different reasons. Rear end, the age of the trucks, etc.
Keep in mind, the EcoBoost in the video is a 2018, Ford tuned up the power of those 3.5’s in 2021 (or around there) quite a bit.
Then also rear end ratios can really change things too.
We’re just out to show real world races, and the GM ran away with this one quite easily.
In a few weeks, we’ll be releasing a video of that same 6.2 Sierra against a new PowerBoost, which was a crazy race. Stay tuned for that one :)
tfl is usually in higher elevation as well. Turbos have an advantage above sea level
@@r2ba435 Great point!
That was the slooowest 3.5 I've ever seen on You Tube. My 5460# 2014 F150 3.5 w/ tune runs sub14 sec 1/4.
Lol that’s because your truck is tuned though; this one’s bone stock and those 3.5’s respond to tunes with crazy good numbers.
We could have gotten this one going a little quicker if we were really aggressively brake boosting but it wouldn’t have made a difference in this race (meaning GM wins no matter what). In fact, we raced this same 6.2 Sierra against a PowerBoost, brake torquing in 4H and got the GM going quite a bit faster than this video.
I’d imagine the 3.5 in this video could get to high 14’s if we really leaned into the torque converter, in the same way we did with the PowerBoost and GM here:
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I am impressed by the The Ecoboost against the GMC V-8. Of course the V-8 was going to win but it didnt win by much. How bout putting the GMC against a 5.0 Coyote or bigger Ford Engine that is more equal?
We did a race with the newer 3.5 F150 that has more power than this one, and we raced the 6.2 against an F150 PowerBoost as well.
The 5.0 would be great, we’re still trying to hunt one down to get out to the track.
The 3.5 turbo and 5.0 are currently Ford’s more powerful engines that they put in a half ton, not including the Raptor of course, but that’s a completely different truck. The PowerBoost makes more HP and TQ than the standard 3.5 and it’s been the only truck so far, that we have raced, to take down the 6.2
You can see those other two races here:
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Josh you've got to either start brake-boosting or CHEAT! LOL
I DID brake boost the second race (so did Mamzy) and I lost by an even larger gap than the first race 😂😂 don’t you worry though, my comeback is about to begin!
Yes this is cheat ,
Real world MPG comparison would be great.
Could be an interesting test for sure!
Don’t mean to be picky, but the Ford 3.5 is 400hp not 375
This F150 in the video is a 2018. Prior to 2021, the 3.5 F150’s came with 375hp (with the exception of the Limited trim and Raptor models of course). It wasn’t until after 2021 that the Hp and Tq was increased.
Was the Ford in sport mode? Huge difference!
Yep, sure was. We had a lot of comments asking us to race the updated 2021+ F150 because they came with more power. We happened to find both a brand new 1500 AT4 and 2022 F-150 and lined them up. Crazy enough the Sierra took that race as well. You can see it here:
ua-cam.com/video/zTsARHFn35c/v-deo.html&ab_channel=KingdomAuto
Wait, all the Ford hooners swear this ain't possible...ha!
We were surprised as well! Keep in mind, this F-150 is the older version, that has less power than the 2021+ 3.5 EcoBoost trucks BUT this Sierra also basically keeps up with a PowerBoost as well which is just crazy to us - video here for reference:
ua-cam.com/video/0BxjeqNgPw4/v-deo.html&ab_channel=KingdomAuto
We think that because we're racing at Sea Level, it gives the GM all of its available power. That plus the new 10 speed transmissions make it a very fast truck
A tuned 3.5l blows the 6.2 away. Not even close. I dont know if they have tunes for the 6.2?
Ok... We are not racing tuned vehicles though. We are racing them stock. Yes, there are definitely aftermarket tuning options for the 6.2 as well.
The GMC has a much taller rear gear...3.23 to the ford 3.73, so the top end advantage goes to the GMC.
Yep and even despite the F-150 having the advantage at the beginning, the GM pulled harder for the entire race (based on all the runs we did) it’s a quick truck.
Stay tuned though because we’ve got a video coming out soon with this same Sierra Vs. The new F-150 PowerBoost (3.73 diff as well)
Crazy fun race
How about trucks from the same year? TFL did this and the 3.5 stomped the 6.2
Done: ua-cam.com/video/zTsARHFn35c/v-deo.html
We actually go over your exact question in that video above - cheers :)
What is the elevation where this race was done?
500 ft above sea level
Should have used a platinum f150 ecoboost
We definitely would have if we had access to one. Those things are hard to find.
That said, we raced that same Sierra against a PowerBoost as well, and we have a video coming out next week of the new 6.2 Sierra vs a 2022 F-150 with the updated 3.5 engine. Ford tuned up the power of the 3.5’s in 2021.
Here’s the PowerBoost race:
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year matter? I just picked up a 18 Eco. Very pleased with power. Didn’t know they were built faster in newest models, Guess my tune will help that.
@Dann Kelly Congrats on your purchase!
Yes, in 2021 Ford turned up the power a bit on the 3.5 engines. They now come with 400Hp and 500Tq.
If you get your 18 tuned you should be well above that anyways though, especially with minor bolt ons
Granted it’s worth noting that even the older “Limited” trim F-150’s came with a high output 3.5L engine and made the same power as the Raptor. So if your 2018 is a Limited it’s got a ton of power
Do the 3.5 ecoboost hybrid next
Funny enough we actually filmed that race shortly after this one :) it’s not edited yet but it should be released in the next 1-2 months
That race was wild.
I have both F150 3.5L ecoboost and GMC Sierra 6.2L. F150 feels lighter and quicker. Sierra more comfortable ride and faster over all. 6.2L gets way better MPG and way better transmission shifting.
Interesting, thanks for your comment! The trim level of the F-150 must make a big difference for ride comfort. The gray one in this video and the PowerBoost in this video ua-cam.com/video/0BxjeqNgPw4/v-deo.html&ab_channel=KingdomAuto
were both much more comfortable to drive than the GM. Either way though, both are great trucks!
Yeah dream on. 18 eco 23 mpg average in traffic here with mpt tune. Tows my 36 ft travel trailer through the mountains of Tennessee like nothing getting 12.3 mpg. Cant imagine why Ford outsells GM year after year, 🤣. Im a V8 guy really but it would take several thousands of $ to make the 6.2 out perform the Eco. If they did, i would buy one, but I've killed to many of them.
@@molonlabe287 lol if you’re tuned of course your F150 would take the race 😂😂
This is stock for stock, no mods.
The F150 responds way better to a tune + modifications, everyone knows that.
We even raced a new Sierra AT4 vs a new 3.5 F150 (The 2021+ 3.5’s came with more power) and the GM took that as well. As mentioned in an earlier comment to you, the GM’s when racing at sea level (with the 10 speed transmission) are just simply fast, especially in the top end. The F150 can take them 0-60 Mph but the GM claws its way back towards the end. Video here for reference:
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I own the Ford, great power and gas mileage.
Can’t imagine the gas guzzler 6.2
Agreed, the EcoBoost is a great engine! Re: gas mileage, surprisingly the 6.2 isn’t too far behind Ford’s 3.5 in the real world
Would love to see a 5 star tune on both trucks and see what wins after lol. The 3.5 ecoboost livens up at an unreasonable amount with any 3.5 ecoboost with direct and port injection. My 2020 with just a tune on a cold day with warm rear tires will make just under a 13 second quarter mile.
Yeah that would be fun! If our channel ever gets to the size where we can test things like this, we’d be all for it :) right now we are limited to basically borrowing friends and families vehicles + the odd rental to get these races happening. But we do hope things continue to grow :)
Wild that your 3.5 can run that quick with just a tune though, that’s a fast truck!
@@KingdomAuto I appreciate your commitment to your channel to respond so quickly. I did not get my times on a legit drag strip but was on a drag time phone app. Not sure how reputable that is but the butt dyno feel from tuned to not tuned was kinda ridiculous. I also noticed in the summertime my truck felt like it had over 100hp less than winter time. I feel like the ecoboost is effected way more than an N/A motor in the heat of the summer. I Look forward to your future videos. If interested I have the runs saved from my race stats app.
@@yfarmeaahka We certainly do our best to reply to comments and take our audience's recommendations :) The next race we're releasing (this Monday) actually came highly recommended and we had the chance to get the vehicles so we made it happen. It's the 2022 3.5 F-150 Vs. 2022 Sierra 6.2. Lots of folks were saying that the 2018 in this video lost because it was the older version of the 3.5 engine with less power. So we were able to find two brand new trucks and make a new race happen.
That's really interesting about your truck as well and summer vs. winter. Do you think it would need to be tuned according to the weather maybe?
As for the times, yeah feel free to send them our way! Email is Kingdomauto7@yahoo.com
We'll eventually get a proper domain name once our website is built lol
Thanks for your comments!
@@KingdomAuto I’m not a person to understand tuning an engine but I know many tuning companies have found the ecoboost hates heat and loses a lot of power with it. I know sometime in 2018 ford went from direct injection fuel to direct and port injection. Allowing the 3.5 to have a lot more fuel range. So if the truck you used was before that change then I definitely believe there will be a difference in the outcome. I’m super excited for that video.
@@yfarmeaahka Interesting! Yeah the F-150 in this video was a 2018. New race that's coming out on Monday is 2022 so definitely quicker than the one in this video. Good times! Thanks for your email as well! That's definitely WAY faster than either of those two trucks in this video. Heck that's faster than any of the trucks we've raced on the channel (including the new PowerBoost), by a country mile. Crazy what a tune can do..
Try a 2.7 Eco boost vs the GMC!
Thanks for your comment, but wouldn’t the 2.7 lose by an even larger gap than the 3.5?? The 3.5’s put out a lot more power and the GM won. We’ve got an upcoming video where we put an F-150 PowerBoost Hybrid against this specific GM as well, that was a very entertaining race :)
@@KingdomAuto TFL truck did the 2.7 vs the 3.5 and the 2.7 was actually faster? The 3.5 also beat the GM 6.2, but they are at a higher elevation. I was happy to see the 6.2 beat the 3.5 😁
@@shanerides That's really interesting, was that the video where they tested 0-60 times, or was that a full 1/4 mile? Some folks say that the 2.7 can get off the line quicker because they often come in lighter platforms and have the edge at the beginning, but then the 3.5 comes right back and takes the 1/4 mile because of how much more power it has.
Here's an example of how the 3.5 has a faster 1/4 mile time:
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But yeah the GM pretty easily took this race, it was surprising to both of us how much it walked away!
Stay tuned for the GM Vs. PowerBoost race though, that one was wild! Video should drop likely late spring :)
2.7 will beat the 6.2.
@@joecobra4905 The 2.7 is slower than the 3.5 lol. It puts out significantly less power and tq. There are some tests out there that claim the 2.7 is faster from 0-60 but definitely not in the 1/4 mile (which is the distance we race).
Here’s a good example of a 1/4 mile race with both the 2.7 and 3.5 involved:
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No 4x4 Race? 3.23 vs 3.73 in Normal Mode? Realy?
We did a 4x4 race with brake torquing/boosting, but just didn’t film it, all that happened was that the GM won by a much larger margin. You can see that in this race here:
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We ran them in sport mode in this video as well. What’s wrong with trying different modes? We thought it would be interesting to see if any difference was made.
As for rear end ratios, we take what we can get. We’re borrowing vehicles to make these videos happen.
You had the wrong Ecoboost 3.5. You should have gotten the Powermax 3.5 . Its 420HP and 510 Ft. Lbs of torque. Not even the mighty 6.2 Carbon Shmarpon can beat it!
The EB3.5 in this vid was frying the tires like crazy. It had to be in 4x4 and in sport mode!!!
@@SilverRaven1959 Actually the tire spin you heard was coming from the GM lol. We actually tried a race in 4x4 off camera and the GM won by an even larger margin. You can see that here where we race this same 6.2 Sierra against a PowerBoost (we had both trucks in 4x4 and brake torqued on the launch to about 2-3k rpm), but compare the times of the Sierra from this video to the one below, it was far faster when brake torquing and actually beat the F-150 in this video by an even bigger gap.
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As for your comment about the higher output F-150 (the limited trim models) yeah those are seriously quick, but also very hard to come by.
We use friends and families’ vehicles so we are limited to what we can find.
That said, we have a race coming out this Monday of a 2022 3.5 F-150 (Ford tuned up the power of the 3.5 in 2021 to 400Hp and 500 Tq) Vs. A 2022 6.2 AT4 Sierra.
And we had them in 4x4 and brake torqued as well.
Stay tuned for that! Fun race :)
@@KingdomAuto Funny that TFL does this and they beat the 6.2 all the time! This is the first time I see this!!!
I didn't look for it but does that GM have a cold air and tune in it???
I thought that's what I heard in the beginning of you video!
@SilverRaven1959 yep we have had that comment many times about TFL truck but take a look at where they race. They’re in Boulder CO so likely between 5000 and 6000+ feet above Sea Level.
That will make a massive difference in performance, when the GM is naturally aspirated and the Ford is turbocharged (forced induction engines perform much better at altitude when compared to NA).
We race basically right at Sea Level so that gives the GM it’s actual amount of power.
Proof is the fact that the best time TFL could get their 6.2 in the 1/4 mile was over 16 seconds, that’s ridiculously slow. We had ours as fast as low 14’s.
Re: your comment about the 6.2 being modified, it’s completely stock. All we said was that the “Carbon Pro” trim comes from the factory with a slightly different intake and louder exhaust, but performance is exactly the same.
Nice race, but keep in mind that’s a brand new 2022 GMC where the Ford it’s an older model 2018 and the new Ford models make more power like the 2022 PowerBoost would of win this race easy 🤷🏻♂️
Yep we’re well aware of this :) we raced these two trucks because they stacked up nicely on paper despite the 2018 F150 putting out less power than the new ones.
With regards to your comment about the PowerBoost winning “easily” well.. not so much. Check out our race here where we put the same 6.2 Sierra in this video against a new PowerBoost:
ua-cam.com/video/0BxjeqNgPw4/v-deo.html
Here's a new race with a 2022 F-150 Vs. 2022 6.2 AT4 we just uploaded:
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gmc looks better and lasts longer than the Ford
The new GM's definitely look quite nice!
If you want to have a quick truck you buy the 3.5 Ecoboost and then get a tune from 5 star . No truck will ever come close to you again
Yeah those things fly with a tune and bolt ons for sure!
@@KingdomAuto I know. I own one. Cvf down pipes, custom dual exhaust, injen intakes and 5 star tune. 505hp 544tq
Im surprised! Was the F150 in sport mode or normal?
We were too! It was in sport. We even did this race again with the 2022 F150 (more power from the 3.5 EcoBoost) and same result!
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Yeah but you raced a 2018 with a 2021 the 2021 3.5 ecoboost has 420 hp and 500 torque try that race see what happens to the 6.2
Yep we’re well aware of this. The only reason we raced the older version of the 3.5 was because they stack up well on paper so we just wanted to see how the trucks compared.
We have a video where we raced the new PowerBoost against the same Sierra. That was an interesting one.
Additionally we’re racing right at sea level so the 6.2 has all of its available power. That seems to make a big difference when compared to TFL truck as they race at 10k above sea level.
Anyways here’s the race between the 6.2 GM and the PowerBoost
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Also, Here's a new race with a 2022 F-150 Vs. 2022 6.2 AT4 we just uploaded:
ua-cam.com/video/zTsARHFn35c/v-deo.html&ab_channel=KingdomAuto
sorry, the f150 beats these things all day long. someones sand bagging. Funny how you're pretty much the only peeps getting these skewed results.
When the Sierra’s had the outdated 6 speed transmissions, totally agree. With the new 10 speeds that they have, they’re a seriously fast truck. Another factor you’ve got to consider is the altitude at which we’re racing, we’re basically right at sea level which gives the GM all of its available power.
TFL truck is a prime example of this, they raced these trucks but they’re around 10,000 feet above sea level which will cause a massive change in performance, especially with a naturally aspirated engine. Turbo’s have the advantage at higher altitudes.
This specific 6.2 Sierra even keeps up with a new PowerBoost, video for reference below (PowerBoost is faster but by less than a tenth of a second in the 1/4 mile)
No one’s sandbagging at all, believe me, we were surprised at the result as well (plus we switched drivers off camera to confirm the results).was a fun race :)
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Why not race the f150 limited about the same price game as the sierra yet will walk ot down 😂
The Limited F150’s are almost impossible to find. If we can get our hands on one we’ll definitely get it out to the track though!
We did race a new F150 against a new Sierra AT4 though, because Ford increased the power of the 3.5 EcoBoost engines in 2021
You can see that here:
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i got one dog it’s super awesome. i wouldn’t trade it for anything. mucho power
You’ve got an F150 or a Sierra?
i got the sierra
@@jmiranda1499 Oh nice! Yup, quick trucks with a ton of useable power for sure
Do it with the same gear ratio
Get us the trucks and we’ll do it 👍
2022 vs 2018????
Yeah why not?
The 3.5 EcoBoost makes the same power up until 2021 + we also wanted to see how the older F-150 stacks up against the 6.2GM, that’s the point of the series - running a bunch of unique and different races.
Here’s a race with the new PowerBoost vs. The same 6.2 Sierra in this video if you wanted something newer:
ua-cam.com/video/0BxjeqNgPw4/v-deo.html
OK, so now the Sierra v. Ram TRX or Ford Raptor.
If we can find the trucks, then for sure :)
Reared ratios ?
All vehicle specs are listed in the intro of the video, including differential ratios. Cheers
should’ve had the platinum…outcome would’ve been different
Isn't it the Limited that has the high output 3.5??
That said, even with that engine, it still might have been a close race. Here's the same 6.2 Sierra against a brand new F-150 PowerBoost:
ua-cam.com/video/0BxjeqNgPw4/v-deo.html&ab_channel=KingdomAuto
We're also trying to track down a Limited to go against the GM as well, they're just really hard to find.
next time put the f150 in 4wheel high and you’ll be surprised
Tried that, just didn’t film it. GM won by a bigger gap. We raced a new 2022 F150 against a 6.2 as well here (doing what you’ve said) and the GM still took the win:
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Need to compare a 21 to a 21 the 21 + 3.5 is 400hp and 500tq
The point of the series is to match anything that could be close up against one another. But, check out the pinned comment of this video, we raced the same 6.2 Sierra Vs a PowerBoost here:
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Ford now has 3.5 with 400hp and 500 TQ
Yep we’re well aware and we have a race lined up between the new F-150 and a 6.2 Sierra as well.
The point of the series is to race anything that looks to be close on paper, which these two trucks did.
1 need to tork break 2 put it in 4 wheel high
We did both of those.
The second race in the video, both trucks were brake torquing on the launch.
We also had another race we didn’t feature on the video with both trucks in 4 high, brake torquing, it didn’t change the results of the race at all so we left it out.
Hope that helps :)
Waiting for the sonata vs accord so excited 😆 🤩🤩🤩🤩
It’ll happen but it will probably still be a while. We have to wait for the snow to melt up here, find the cars and then film and edit the video. Probably the earliest it’ll be online will be mid-late summer. But we’ll do our best either way.
@@KingdomAuto I really appreciate your work because other channels do expensive car drag races but most people drive normal cars and it's fun to see what these normal cars can do
@@sametyldrm8837 Much appreciated, thanks for your comment - yeah we had the exact question with regards to how regular/daily-driver vehicles would do in the 1/4 mile, so we're doing our best to line up as many as possible. We're still in the very beginning stages of this series but we hope to continue for a long time :)
put a tune on both
That would be fun to see for sure. Maybe one day :)
Just the v8 top end
Yeah and paired with the 10 speed transmission. They’re quick trucks. Also we race at sea level too so that makes a difference
Did u put 4x4 on F150?
Yeah we did but didn’t film it, for both trucks, sorry about that. It didn’t do much for the overall time and actually just got the GM going quite a bit quicker so we just left the footage out.
That said, stay tuned though because next week we’re releasing a video of the 2022 3.5 EcoBoost Vs. A 2022 6.2 Sierra (in 4x4, brake torquing/boosting). It was a fun one.
Additionally, here’s a video of the same Sierra in this video when up against a PowerBoost, brake torquing in 4wd.
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F150 r light weight , spin so much on 2wD , nd tht GMC is an upgrade truck so we all wants to see the new upgrade Ford, please, but try tht race again with 4x4 please, thank u
@@berlinsortiz7974 Surprisngly it didn’t spin its wheels hardly at all in 2WD which is why we left that footage in the video.
And yes, as mentioned above, we have the 2022 F-150 vs 2022 Sierra 6.2 coming out next week (in 4x4, brake torquing on the launch) video should be coming out next Monday :)
But i bet in 4x4 u can give more boost rey tht next time please, with boost and sport mode it will be way faster
Lol yes that’s what I’ve said, the next race being released next week, we do everything you’re talking about - 4x4 and brake torquing/brake boosting in sport mode. We did that in this video too:
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I have a 2016 denali 1500 stock that does 13.62 1/4 so that 14.8 the newer truck ran sucks
Is that on a prepped surface? If so that makes a big difference. Also in this race I don’t think we ran the trucks in 4wd either so those factors all play into the time.
We raced a newer one and were able to get it down to low 14’s but keep in mind our track is not a real drag strip and is much closer to a “real world” type race .
Here’s a race of a 2022 we did, running in 4WD + brake torquing the launch
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Bet on V8
Was a good bet in this race for sure!
I had the 2019 AT4 6.2 L at the drag strip 1/8th mile, 9.23 best time, Dynoed 359.3 HP 384.5 TQ, at the wheels, bought 2022 Ford F150 Tremor 3.5L 9.03 best time, Dynoed, 357.7 HP 449.9 Tq, at the wheels, No tunes, 3.5L crazy Tq. Waiting for a tune, be in the mid 8s with the Tremor.
Good times. The F-150 in this video is a 2018 so it has less power than the newer ones. Plus we’re seeing that rear end ratios can really change the outcome of a race as well. Either way, both trucks are really quick
Front p l ate is covering where the turbos 7:48 draw their air u might as well stick a potato in the tailpipe of the ford
That’s an incorrect statement. The turbos are located where the front grill is but the intake is located higher up in the engine bay and takes cold air in from close to where the hood closes.
Additionally re: plate location, the truck is bone stock, and this is where Ford locates the plate on every one of their trucks, in any state/province that requires front plates.
Hooookey smokers that thing fast
😂😂 these two are even faster (new F-150 and brake torquing the GM) ua-cam.com/video/zTsARHFn35c/v-deo.html
ford did not have the 3.55 gear package
The 3.73 gearing is more aggressive than 3.55.
Additionally, we raced a new 3.5 F150 with the more powerful engine against a 2022 6.2 Sierra. The Ford we used in that video had 3.55 gearing.
That said though, the 3.73 should be the fastest accelerating that Ford has to offer.
You can check that race out here:
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@@KingdomAuto you cant Get 3.73 gear option with ecoboost 3.5 its not offered .. only 3.31 or 3.55 with ecoboost ...the 5.0l can get 3.73 due to the fact it makes less torque ... my 2021 f150 ecoboost has run 0-60 in 5.0 flat and 13,71 1/4 mile at atco raceway stock so i dont no what you guys are doing wrong but i have yet to loose to any 6.2 gm with my 3.5 10 speed gen 3 with 3.55 gear ..and with a flash tune the game is over ...
@@NAZTYPONY007 yes you can… I’ve personally checked the axel codes on the door stickers and have personally seen the 3.5’s come with 3.73 gears. Not sure where you got that info from but 3.73 gearing is definitely available with the 3.5 engine. Both the Ford in this video and the PowerBoost we raced had a 3.73 rear end. I don’t know if that’s because we’re in Canada but without a shadow of a doubt, the trucks I mentioned had 3.73 gearing according to the door sticker.
We’re not doing anything wrong my friend. What is there to get wrong in a 1/4 mile drag race? We brake boost the F150 to build boost, we launch the trucks at various RPM’s in various modes to test everything out and see what we can get the fastest time with and no matter what we do, the GM came out on top (aside from the the PowerBoost, that beat the AT4).
Keep in mind we’re racing at sea level so the GM will have all of its available power. Altitude makes a huge difference when racing these trucks.
With regards to overall 1/4 mile time, we tend to have slower times when compared to drag strip and “dragy” timing because we go frame by frame and time the vehicles that way, so it’ll always be a tad slower than an actual drag strip because of how we calculate the time.
Bottom line, depending on the options, it’s very possible for the new 6.2’s to take a 3.5 F150 in a race. Just depends on a few factors and options that the trucks come with.
@@KingdomAuto I am at sea level too ..been building fast cars and modular fords and a few chevy ls for years ..been 9.70s with a built Ls3 6 speed 1LE camaro and low 10s with a 3v ford i am well aware of altitude and how engines work .... looks like the 3.5 powerboost is the truck that gets the 3.73 ....cant build ion the ford site with regular 3.5t only 3.55 ..
@@NAZTYPONY007 Lol, that's because you're looking at brand new trucks man. The F150 in this video was a previous gen and before Ford updated the 3.5 engine + gave it more power. Prior to that update you could get the 3.5 Eco with 3.73 gearing.
If you want to see an updated race between the newer F150 Vs. an AT4, we did that race as well, that F150 had 3.55 gearing:
ua-cam.com/video/zTsARHFn35c/v-deo.html&ab_channel=KingdomAuto
Gmc don't need no turbo
Yes, in this case the V8 GM took the win
Useable torque!
Very much so!
Still waiting on the powerboost video 🥹… it’s been months
Haha - maybe you can cover renovating my house and taking care of my 3 kiddo's so I have more time to make the video :D :D
It's in progress now but life is also very busy for both Miranda and I :)
That's an old f150 lol new ones got 400 hp
We did the race with the updated 2022 F-150 right here:
ua-cam.com/video/zTsARHFn35c/v-deo.html
nothing in a1500 out tows a 3.5 ecoboost max tow package 13800lbs
We didn’t say that the GM could tow more than the Ford… this was a drag race, not a towing competition :)
@@KingdomAuto obviously !!! just mentioning the most important thing when having a pickup truck ...was this ford a gen 3 ecoboost do you run premium 93 in it
@@NAZTYPONY007 Lol ok. We're just out to have fun and race vehicles. For us it doesn't matter which one wins. We simply enjoy it and have a good time.
Yes we run premium gas.
My 2010 beat one of those 6.2 by 3 truck lengths
Did the 6.2 have a 10 speed transmission?
Were both trucks stock?
Were you racing at sea level?
What rear ends were in both trucks?
Lots of things can affect 1/4 mile performance with trucks
@@KingdomAuto I'm full bolt on e30 , 13.2 at 103mph
@@BlackTTf150 haha well then of course you’re gonna win against a stock 6.2. The trucks in this video are bone stock
Alright... I'll be first!
Is that still a thing? If so…. SECOND!!! 😂
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2021 vs 2018.
Compare vs 5.0 coyote 2021. And you see the difference.
Lol, didn’t read the pinned comment eh?
Here’s a 2022 EcoBoost vs 2022 6.2 Sierra:
ua-cam.com/video/zTsARHFn35c/v-deo.html
Sad a 3.5 is right with you and not pulling hard
What do you mean by this?
@@KingdomAuto the 3.5 was staying with 6.2 closer then I thought the 6.2 wasn’t pulling the 3.5 by much
@@joshfellows9601 oh yeah? We thought the 6.2 won the race quite easily, especially in the second half of the races. Stay tuned as well because we are releasing a video this coming Monday of the new 2022 F-150 vs. A 2022 6.2 Sierra. Ford increased the power of the 3.5 engines in 2021 so they’re faster now than before.
Fun race :)
@@KingdomAuto I know I’m leaning on buying the 5.0l as it beats the 5.7 hemi. I thought the 6.2 would beat it harder then that
@@joshfellows9601 Yeah Ford’s EcoBoost engines are quite quick. They used to beat 6.2’s all day until just recently when GM put a 10 speed transmission in them. That was a game changer for the Sierra.
From what we’ve seen, if the trucks are all stock, a new 6.2 will just edge out a 5.0. But if it’s speed you’re after then either the PowerBoost or an F-150 with the “limited” trim option would be a solid bet - the Limited’s had a high output 3.5, and made the same power as the Raptor.
My 2.7 eco with my edge Evolution CTS three and premium gas will destroy the truck
That’s great, but any vehicle can be modified to be made as fast as one’s wallet allows. This series is about stock, every-day vehicles going toe to toe in the 1/4 mile.
GM power for the win. Sorry Ford guys.
They’ve got a lot of power in the top end for sure
I figured the Sierra would be quicker than the F-150 3.5L Ecoboost. I beat those on a regular basis with my 19 Sierra Denali 6.2 (Ultimate Pack) which weighs in at 4972 lbs without the use of the carbon pro bed either. Turns out, there's quite a bit of aluminum trickery going on with these new GMC's and Ford really doesn't have an answer for them either since even the Coyote is slower than the Ecoboost.
Maybe try the 2019-21 Sierra Denali w/6.2L vs the Ram Rebel with the big 6.4L under the hood. Should be interesting how those stack up.
Interesting, thanks for your comment! We also realize that the F-150 in this video is a 2018, and Ford increased the power of the 3.5 engines in 2021 to 400Hp and 500Tq.
Interestingly enough, we’re uploading a video right now between a 2022 Sierra 1500 AT4 (6.2L) Vs. A 2022 F-150 3.5L so stay tuned for that :)
Should be online in an hour or so :)
Overall it does seem as though a lot of people don’t realize how quick the new 6.2’s are with the 10 speed transmission. That new tranny did wonders for the truck.
As for the race between the 6.2L Sierra and 6.4L Ram Rebel, that would likely be a fantastic race, if we can get our hands on a 6.4 we’ll line it up for sure, as we have access to the Sierra any time :)
@@KingdomAuto Sounds great. Also, try and get yourselves a Denali Sierra with the 6.2L, the suspension and launch ability of that setup is far better than what the AT4 can put down. I've driven both, ended up getting the Denali due to the comfort and quickness of the truck over the AT4.
@@TheWolfMatt Good to know, we haven’t found a Denali at the moment but will keep our eyes out for one! Thanks for the info :)
@@TheWolfMatt Also, what’s your take on other videos out there where the F-150 takes down the 6.2 in a race? We’ve seen a few videos out there that show the F-150 coming out on top.
TFL truck we understand as they’re up at around 5000-6000 ft above sea level so of course the forced induction engines are going to perform better.
But there are also a few other videos circling around as well that seem to indicate that the 3.5 is faster. Trying to figure out why this is 😂
Every time we’ve raced them the GM has won (with the exception of the PowerBoost, that won by a hair when we raced them: ua-cam.com/video/0BxjeqNgPw4/v-deo.html&ab_channel=KingdomAuto). We’re also right at sea level too so that helps but we’re just looking for more opinions from folks with the 6.2 that are able to outrun the 3.5
@@KingdomAuto I'm up at around half mile in elevation currently and my 6.2L does extremely well. Really takes those 3.5L F-150 guys by surprise when it blows the doors off them at the start. But, once we get into 2nd or 3rd from the start, they quickly stop the bleeding and stay where I left them all the way to 110mph or so. That's about where the GMC runs out of gear over the F-150 it seems. Launch has to be done in "Sport Mode" with TC set to off and in the trucks AWD mode for launch. You can brake torque if you like, really doesn't make much of a difference. That Denali launches like a scalded horse every time. Looking forward to your new video though. Should be fun.
The 2.7 actually is faster then the 3.5, I think the 2.7 would be almost the same as the 6.2 in speed
This information seems to be a common myth... The 2.7 in some cases is faster from 0-60 but never in the 1/4 mile, which is the distance we race.
The 2.7 puts out far less HP and TQ when compared to the 3.5 and is slower in the 1/4 mile, here's a good example displaying this information:
ua-cam.com/video/Ct9w0Y3lyuA/v-deo.html&ab_channel=ACCELER8
Not a chance is the 2.7 faster than 3.5
I blow the doors off my sons 2021 2.7 with my 2021 3.5
He’s no where near me the hole time! Sorry
@@mcmuskie2563 go watch tfl they show that it’s faster
@@matteogavinson3549 They don’t have a video showing the two in the 1/4 mile together (at least we haven’t found it, if you have the video please post the link). We’ve seen the video where the 2.7 is quicker from 0-60, which in some cases would make sense (depending on trim and rear end ratios). But in the full 1/4 mile the 3.5 is always faster unless the 2.7 is tuned and 3.5 is stock.
Ford
Ford :D
3.5 should take it all day
Not when racing at sea level, which we are. The new 6.2’s have crazy gearing. They launch hard and have solid top end power.
But the altitude makes a massive difference. If you see TFL trucks content, they’re almost 2 seconds slower in the 1/4 mile than our time when racing the same truck.
GM has always been better☝️
Stay tuned for when we put that GM up against the F-150 PowerBoost Hybrid. That was a fantastic race! Should be out in a couple months :)
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Wow big motor big price the f150 was rite there not impressed with the gmc it should have been much further out there
Yeah there’s definitely something to be said about those EcoBoost engines. Only thing is that the 6.2L would probably be much more reliable. When the 3.5 turbo engines go down they’re expensive to fix!
@@KingdomAuto yeah but how often do they actually “go down”? Everything I’ve read the eco boost is one of the most reliable daily’s out there. Also you’re not getting 20mpg with that 6.2…
@@GamerTJups They’re definitely not as reliable as a naturally aspirated engine unfortunately. Hop on a couple Ford/F-150 groups or forums online and you’ll see complaints left right and center regarding the turbos, cam phasers and or timing components; all very expensive and time consuming fixes.
The 3.5 is a great engine, but with that much boost running through it all the time, it just can’t stand the test of time the way a naturally aspirated engine can. But that’s the same story with basically any turbo engine though, when compared to NA…
Gmc will win
The GM did win in this case yes