How Could Noah Possibly Fit These MASSIVE Dinosaurs on the Ark?
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- Опубліковано 19 жов 2024
- How did Noah care for MASSIVE dinosaurs on the ark, and how did they even fit? In season 2, episode 3 of the Genesis Account of Noah’s Ark, Calvin Smith shares his answer to this question as a Bible-believing Christian.
This is an episode of our series titled “The Genesis Account of Noah’s Ark.” You can watch the other episodes of the series here: www.answers.tv...
Fascinating!
*When GOD is involved, anything is possible.* 😎👍
So, magic.
And not science.
Glad we cleared that up.
@@NorthForkFisherman It makes me wonder why Answers In Genesis makes up these convoluted workarounds. Why don't they just say it's magic God performed?
@@bwtv147 Because truth has created doubt in much of their flock. If you're not in complete control of the narrative, then you've lost all control - so they lie.
Not bald and easy to detect lies - nope. Subtle ones. Sins of commission. Clouding the facts.
And that IS evil.
When imagination and fantasy are involved anything is possible !!!! 😂🤣😂🤣
@@johnelove4714 The Bible is the Ulitmate Mary Sue.
I'm pretty sure all the animals on the ark were juveniles. Any person who practices animal husbandry doesn't buy old breeding stock, they buy young animals for a longer productive life. This would mean the animals would be smaller, taking up less space and requiring less food. On the ark I'm sure they came across dead animals floating in the water and they could have fished to feed some. On the ocean fish tend to school under and around floating objects, as an ex sailor I've seen this many times. I'd have to guess they would have God's help on this matter.
*Why selectively kill only that which is evil, when you can lovingly genocide millions of species for no good reason & force a 600 year old dude to build a 510ft boat?*
How did they fish? The window was the ventilation at the very top of the ark. They couldn't open the door.
@@OldPirate1718 Of course it is. Every old religion on earth should have some sort of story about the flood. They are all descended from the original people of Babylon.
The key word s “kind” there wasn’t every breed of dog. There wasn’t every breed of bird.
Kind, using your own believes . Does cat's give birth to lions or tigers or a chicken hatch eagles. So how in 4000 years cats made tigers ?
@@brunobastos5533 You didn't watch the video eh? It explains what is "kind" (species, genus, FAMILY)
@@SEGAGIGA the problem maintain do a dog give birth to foxes or chacal, remember he uses this in many videos to disprove evolution i never saw a dog giving bird to foxes
So superevolution occurred following the flood?
That's exactly what you're claiming here. Can't have it both ways.
So..."Superevolution"?
That's exactly what you're implying here. Can't have it both ways.
GOD is the creator of all things, and nothing is impossible with HIM!
Except the big bang, human's Africa origins, interbreeding with not just one, but two different species of hominids, plate tectonics, space flight, the benefits of symbiotic crop planting, abolishing slavery, the KT boundary found on every continent, angiosperm dating, length of a day, month, and year, etc... etc.
and who create god , you know the same story of the clock , a clock must have a creator , so if god is a watch where is the watchmaker
@@brunobastos5533
That's a double edged sword you're swinging.
If everything needs a maker,
then who created the big bang?
@@Matt-416 for you is a problem. because i do not believe in a creator is your side that claim it . Big bang is a creation , in the universe nothing is created or destroy , can only be transformed. So the big bang is the moment super concentrated energy lose it equilibrium and create matter .
@@Matt-416 The difference being, the universe wasn’t designed. It does not need a maker. And time is irrelevant when discussing the Big Bang. So time is a dimension in our universe. It is a result of the Big Bang.
If God could seal the mouths of the lions for Daniel He could seal the mouths of the carnivorous animals on the ark.
But Yahweh couldn't just *ZAP* all the shitty people away and leave only Noah+8?
He had to resort to the megakludge BS flood gimmick?
Is that what you would have us believe?
@NorthForkFisherman This is because of what's called typology. The historical ark saving Noah and his family from the destruction of the flood is a prophetic echo of Jesus who will save us from the destruction at the last judgment. God is powerful enough to put prophecy into historical events.
@@rafexrafexowski4754 "
: a doctrine of theological types
especially : one holding that things in Christian belief are prefigured or symbolized by things in the Old Testament"
Except that the Noachian Flood never actually happened. There are so many lines of evidence that directly rule that out. But again, why the "mousetrap-game" level of BS rather than just "POOF"?
@NorthForkFisherman You are simply assuming that the flood did not actually happen without giving evidence why. And as to why bother with the flood, again, it is a prophetic type. Doing it differently would ruin its prophetic nature.
@@rafexrafexowski4754 "You are simply assuming that the flood did not actually happen without giving evidence why. "
No, I KNOW it did not happen. I can introduce dozens of lines of evidence which you simply cannot explain so you will simply ignore.
Romans 1:22 applies to you BTW.
But..since you opened your mouth...
Let's begin with a simple one: Pollen. It's always nice to learn something new every day, isn't it? All pollen is composed of carbon, oxygen, hydrogen, nitrogen, and a handful of other elements. This creates a packet of proteins and nucleic acids that is the genetic payload for plant reproduction. Because of the normal methods involved - wind current or insect vectors - all pollen is approximately the same size and mass. This is around 25 microns and 100 ng. Very tiny. And so, because of Stokes Law, all samples from any given species will behave identically in a water column. That means it will all settle at the same rate.
Given that the mythical Noachian Flood was a highly energetic event, this means that all pollen should therefore be evenly mixed no matter where you find it.
Spoiler: It's not.
Pollen, like so many other very tiny fossils like ostracods, remains confined to specific places in the rock record. Some show up very early. Profliferate...and then go extinct. Others overlap and persist longer. Nothing is all clumped together as it must be if there were a biblical flood. Everything is discreet and very easily recognized as existing at only specific places in time.
And that goes back millions of years.
But don't take my word for it: Source: Valenti Rull, "High-Impact Palynology in Petroleum Geology: Applications from Venezuela" AAPG Bulletin 86(2002):2:279-300, p. 285
Just one of hundreds of lines of exploration that Creationists cannot or will not explain.
Makes sense. Great explanation.
I must admit I haven’t watched all this yet; but my theory is this: big animals like dinosaurs and elephants maybe couldn’t have all fitted on the Ark, but smaller ones could. My guess is that they were all babies, two of each kind of baby animal. How cute is that!
All the animals that do without long parental care would be juveniles.
According to Smith, after the flood, animals immediately started changing and the one pair of wolf changed into the hundreds of different dog species we have today, and with all the other animals as well. It's almost as if he's claiming they evolved.
It's as if you don't understand the science or the creationist position either one.
There are only around 30 species of canids in the world today, not hundreds.
And even if there were 100 species, that only makes for 1 new species about every 44 years, which is not difficult at all.
Scientists name species based on reproductive isolation and relatively minor phenotypical differences. It takes only one generation to develop a phenotypical difference, and it takes less than one generation to reproductively isolate populations.
Dogs, like most mammals, breed once or twice a year.
That means that dogs have had literally billions of opportunities to speciate, while producing a mere 30 named species today.
I love the information you are providing. Keep up the great work. Thank you for providing this Biblical content.
Says dinosaurs weren’t like Jurassic Park… But “ were you there?”
Exactly! AIG keeps reminding us we didn't see evolution and that door swings both ways. Nobody at AIG saw creation.
Did a message on this, even joked about the number 2, but add Dinos to the mix, I am not sure I would have lasted the flood before I opened a window
Thank you for the video. Good points.
In short, Grown and Mature Animals did not need to be brought aboard the Ark.
He was imprisoned on earth during the age of dinosaurs. His reason for visiting during that age could revolve around his own blood line
this is absolutely Cypress Hill
What became of the dinosaurs that survived the flood on the ark ? I understand only the need for a single pair from each given genus as far as animals at the time, but what became of the survivors of the dinosaurs? What are they found in today or did they become extinct after surviving the flood ?
They lived for a long while after similar to many other kinds of animals post flood. Virtually every culture had depictions of dragons, which are dinosaurs. Many carvings and paintings depicting obvious dinosaurs and quite a few writings of various dinosaur type creatures well into the medieval period. What happend to them though is likely what happend to many animals throughout history, they were hunted to extinction, or simply died out due to environmental changes they couldn't adapt to or failure to reproduce.
Also a great multitude of writen and oral history surrounding "dragons" and the like (as the word dinosaur is a very recent word) is quite common throughout history. Even Marco polo if you trust his writings describes kings towing chariots with dragons or Babylon accounts. Oral native American history of thunderbirds (and even cowboy accounts) when described closely resemble pterodactyl type animals.
In my opinion now I would guess that most of these creatures went extinct in the same manner every other animal that has gone extinct. Though environmental changes, slow breeding cycles, or over hunting. If you made it this far I'm sorry for the novel.
I don't understand why creationists try to dream up plausible, natural ways it could have happened. Why don't they just say it was another miracle?
Genesis offers no suggestion. And answers in genesis continually revisits issues no one else is looking at scientifically or even casually
Eggs. Beats the grown up version...
The have to be incubated. No electricity.
@Ariella-mx3xq4cw6n
Plants that generate heat... or they took turns .... or they hired an alligator to build a nest, seems they generate heat
OR maybe the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY HIMSELF had Angels do it, but for sure, it got done.
@@Ariella-mx3xq4cw6n The turtles that lay eggs in our front yard, every summer, don't need electricity. As long as nothing disturbs their nest, a new generation of turtles is produced every year..
@@oldtimerlee8820
Turtles live all the time in water except for egg laying. There would be no need for them to be on the ark. If for some reason they needed land there were ample 'mats' for them.
There is a reason turtles only lay their eggs in certain areas of the world.
The sand retaines heat, given out by the sun. Eggs need warmth. They also couldn't walk onto the barge.
You won't get turtle eggs on the beeches of UK, or the Arctic & Antarctica.
In an enclosed barge the only light coming in would be through the 'window' along the roof and the odd lanterns, which would not run all the time.
With all that sudden amount of water we don't know how warm it would be.
The female digs a deep hole for a reason.
@@Ariella-mx3xq4cw6n When in a debate, if the first sentence is incorrect, then speculations that follow can often be ignored. Your first sentence is absolutely incorrect.
There are Aquatic turtles, Semi-aquatic turtles AND *Terrestrial* turtles. Don't take my word for it. Please take the time to learn educate yourself, as there are other inaccuracies in your reply, as well.
All I know is that God's creation is endless, and He is eternal. Therefore, the things that He does are beyond our comprehension, and that's okay!
and who create god the story of the watchmaker this guy love so much , is ok to discredit evolution but then is no good for god
Small sleeping animals are easy to care for.
Easier yet God could magically have all the animals hibernate for a year.
Babies eat less and sleep more that full grown creatures.
seven pairs made seven babies and Noah took the seven young ones being that they were smaller
Now war arose in heaven, Michael and his angels fighting against the dragon. And the dragon and his angels (messengers) fought back, 8 but he was defeated, and there was no longer any place for them in heaven.
How about termites?
If there were termites then. They would not be on the ark, they do not breath through nostrils. The would have floated like all insects on the floating debris. As insects do today.
@@Ariella-mx3xq4cw6n Plenty of wood for them. Where does Genesis say anything about nostrils?
*T-Rex lived in Montana. if a slow walking land animal, how did he get to the Levant ?*
stop being difficult
@@garethcharlton7508 You haven't seen anything yet.
Explain the fact of pollen deposition by species and time period when a Noachian Flood would require suspension of Stokes Law. And then we'll start on ostracods, fusain, evaporites, and the heat problem from igneous formations.
All the little details that YECers avoid.
@@NorthForkFisherman
What is Stokes Law?
I haven't seen any details that YEC's avoid. Your heat problem is imaginary, it isn't even based on real thermodynamics.
What makes you think T-Rex lived in Montana?
The fossils are found where they are deposited, not where the animals lived or died either one.
@@mmaimmortals "What is Stokes Law?"
FFS. Ever heard of Google?
Try that.
Revelation 12:9 New International Version (NIV) 9 The great dragon was hurled down-that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.
Genesis says God himself is a carnivore. God favored Abel because Abel sacrificed the best parts of lambs from his flock.
Does it say that he God ate the offering? No, it says he had respect unto Able and his offering.
@@captainsalty1526 OK, on the other hand God did consume the offering Elijah offered to prove Jaweh was the one true god and God enjoyed the aroma of the clean animals Noah burned as sacrifices when the water abated.
@bwtv147 consume doesn't mean eat in the literal sense. God is spirit, not flesh. He is not dependent on food. Though, It's not worth arguing about. That's just my 2 cents.
No ark
And no flood for that matter.
@@NorthForkFisherman There was major flooding when the most recent ice age thawed. According to Genesis about 5,000 years after the most recent ice age thawed the universe was created.
@@bwtv147 And at no point was it possibly global - so what is the point you're trying to make here?
@@NorthForkFisherman The floods when the most recent ice age thawed occurred 5,000 years before creationists claim the universe was created.
@@bwtv147 I got that part. We both know they're wrong. Are you saying that folklore from the actual events got crafted into the Abrahamic myths? Because that would make sense, wouldn't it?
They were vegetarians. Their teeth, to far a part, do not support each other, and arms, so small, couldn't even use them to eat, proves they could not be carnivores.
You do realize that there were other dinosaurs extant, yes?
@@NorthForkFisherman There are about 50 different Kinds of dinosaurs. Everything was vegetarian before the flood. Even us.
It is only after the flood God said we were to eat meat. when most of the plant life was destroyed
Even the evolutionist agree they were originally vegetarian and plant life was destroyed.
@@Ariella-mx3xq4cw6n "Everything was vegetarian before the flood. Even us." - MY GODS. You don't even know your own doctrine!
That's freaking GOLD!
Either way, No global flood - and you're full of it.
@@NorthForkFisherman So are you. You believe a load of lies
@@Ariella-mx3xq4cw6n Not me you have to convince - because I know this is bollox - it's your betters at AiG like Ken Hamm or Keny Hovid. Do feel froggy to "correct" them. Let us all know how it works out.
Either way - no flood. Too much heat, too little time. See, that's the difference. I don't "believe" anything.
I know.
And I have far better things to do with my time than trad barbs with someone who doesn't even know her own mythology.
Then great dragon was not a snake. Or Dinosaur but was a great reptilian bi pedal man
His angels (messengers, not arch angels) where cast down from heaven
No "Dinosaurs" or "Terrible Lizards" existed in my view, large birds e.g much larger than ostriches, elephant/whale type creatures, also just big reptiles like big Crocodile type creatures but much larger. Also many of the skeletal remains discovered in museums are replicas or artist's interpretations . No mythical separate species/ kind of creature as being portrayed as a Dinosaur lived and died out. If you want to see a dinosaur google Ostrich, Crocodile or Chicken.
True. Dinosaurs they were invented in 1841 by Sir Richard Owen.
There are about 33 different kinds of the beasts we know as dinosaurs, which were on the ark. The animals mentioned do not fit the criteria of a dinosaur. Two come from bird kind . The croc a cold blooded reptile.
Fun facts for all the Christians out there, Noah and the ark are Jewish mythology, and Noah was certainly not a Christian !!
No need to care for animals on a mythological boat from a mythological story. 🙂
You think it's a myth? Your history is all over the place.
grapple with this.
Manetho was an Egyptian priest and philosopher. He wrote the book, Aegyptiaca, which chronicles the dynasties of the Pharaohs. Timelines are based on his writings.
Why was it called Aegytiaca? Because Agypteous/Mizraim - was named after someone called Agypteuous/Mizraim.. And who was he? NOAH's GRANDSON.
The Hebrews - the Shemites/Semites - from the bloodlone of Noah's son, Shem, wrote the Bible - the account of Noah's flood.
What do the Hebrews call Egypt? Yes, MIZRAIM.
@@marcj3682 There is abundant empirical scientific evidence that there was never a global flood, and as a consequence no ark. The flood story is FILLED with hyperbole that would have been recognized by its ancient audience as a figurative description of an event in order to produce an effect and make a theological point, and NOT an example of ancient journalism or accurate science. Also, that natural rock formation in Turkey often misidentified as a boat would be recognized by any professional geologist as a doubly plunging syncline and nothing more.
@@marcj3682 There is abundant empirical scientific evidence that there was never a global flood, and as a consequence no ark. The flood story is FILLED with hyperbole that would have been recognized by its ancient audience as a figurative description of an event in order to produce an effect and make a theological point, and NOT an example of ancient journalism or accurate science. Also, that natural rock formation in Turkey often misidentified as a boat would be recognized by any professional geologist as a doubly plunging syncline and nothing more.
A "mythological" boat whose remains lie on a high mountain within the boundaries of *_Eastern Turkey, Armenia and Northwestern Iran,_* even the locals know about a *_"ship"_* in this place, so it is not a _"myth"_ as you say.
So Christians are chance occurences...randomness? Atheists and Muslims are chance occurences?
Answer:He didn't. Noah's ark is not real and dinosaurs did not live with man.
"Noah's ark is not real and dinosaurs did not live with man.".
PMSL.
Your history is all over the place.
OK, let's play with you.
Today, there are 8 billion people on earth, 2024. In 1960, there were 3 billion. The growth rate is exponential.
If you rewind in time, the population is smaller and smaller.
If there was no flood wiping out all the population, and mankind is (in your worldview) hundreds of thousands of years old, start with just two people, 100,000 years ago, you would have cycled through a population of 8 billion people, millions and millions and millions of times. Remember, in 1960 there were 3 billion people, and today, 64 years later, there are 8 billion. So where are all the bodies, and graves?
There was a flood - and all the ancients wrote about it. Because only 1 family existed - Noah's family.
Noah - his sons - and all their wives (8 people in total), survived, and repopulated earth. Because nothing existed after the ark came to rest, they repopulated earth - and named all the lands that they cultivated.
The cradle of civilisation started about 5000 years ago in Mesopotamia.
Noah had three sons. Shem, Japhath and Ham.
From the bloodline of Ham, there were 4 sons - Cush/Kish (where the Biblical city comes from), Mizraim/Agypteous, Put, and Canaan. From the son Canaan, we get the Canaanites. From Mizraim/Agypteous, we get the country EGYPT. Manetho, an Egyptian priest and philosopher wrote the book, Agyptecea. It chronicles the dynasties of the pharaohs. It's what we base our historical timeline on.
From the bloodline of Shem, we get the Hebrews, who wrote the Bible, documenting the flood. The Hebrews are known as Semites (It comes from Shemite - SHEM).
Egypt is called Mizraim by the Hebrews.
The Egyptians documented a flood in the Ogdoad, saying only 8 people survived. Same story as the bloodline of Shem. Why's that? Because the story was passed down the generations, and constantly documented.
The idea of Royalty comes from the flood survivors. Think about it; if you survived a flood, and you were saved by God, you would be a new king of earth, post flood. You would pass your kingdom down the generations to your first born. The people who are distant cousins wouldn't matttger to you, but you'd want them to remain asleep. Hence you'd tell them they are nothing better than a descendant of a monkey. PMSL.
"Work harder you monkey, fan me more, I'm hot."
Let's play more...
The Namar Palette is a famous stone carving from Egypt - on the back there are dinosaurs - because man lived with them. If they didn't live with them, and we go with "modern theories, and the first dinosaur bone was found in the 1600's, how did the ancients draw them?
You know why? They called them DRAGONS, and that's why there are hundreds of stories, and carvings featuring them. Just one for you to play with - the Uruk Cylinder seals feature the dinosaurs/dragons.
Eveything pre flood was larger - the dinosaurs (DRAGONS) are reptiles - and exist today; post flood everything was smaller - the Komodo Dragon (you would call "dinosaur") exists today.
The atmosphere pre flood was different to post flood.
You've been lied to.
And unless you start believing in Jesus and the Bible, you're heading for the pit.
Good luck.
LOL.
So why Can we find in different language a story about a flood? The most known are Noah and Gilgamesh as exemple but they are not the only ones.
If it was not real we wouldn't have any fossile too.
I let you think about those facts.
May God bless you and help you find The Truth.
@@uneseulevie3386
Because floods happen and civilisations live by rivers that flood.
And then survivors wrote stories about it.
Those stories wouldn’t exist if there was a global flood that killed everything now would they?
I’ll let you think about that for a while.
@@Moist._Robot All those stories come from the survivors don't forget that. And after comes the story of babel so different language, all is related.
The Global flood killed everyone except the family of Noah, which was in the ark, that repopulate the earth since then, so we the stories were written by those who lived it or their child.
I let you rethink of your answer.
How did you know that?
Have you asked your ape ancestors?
Or maybe you're evolved to see light particles from the past...
Wrong, in Genesis 6 god tells Noah to take a pair of every sort. All this talk about kind is heretic nonsense.
Genesis 6:20 Of the birds after their kind, of animals after their kind, and of every creeping thing of the earth after its kind, two of every kind will come to you to keep them alive.
@@williamrodgers2476 And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.
Genesis 6 : 19
@@georg7120 You originally said "in Genesis 6". Why are you ignoring scripture in such away?
@@williamrodgers2476 I quoted Genesis 6!
@@georg7120 While ignoring the context aka the following verse.
Why would you limit the physical capacity of dinosaurs by present conditions?