If the govt actually spent more time managing this country instead of taking away our everyday rights, this country might be a better, more prosperous place to live.
@@jimmycarter8346 They've done nothing but hand out money trying to buy votes. The RBA has their foot on the brake & Albo's fools have their foot on the spending gas pedal. They've imported 1.5 million people to prop up the GDP figures. We've been in a recession since they came to power. Wake up mate !
No it wont help you but what it will do is serve as a, well you have a UHPV you've fucked up now we will throw the book at you and if a jail term is required expect it to be at the longer end of a pedo giving you a good night kiss every day
The main reason why it's a money grab is that it is only an online tick the box and paying the extortion money. Where's the practical advanced driver education where you are taught car control, that would make more sense than ticking a,b or C as many times as you like until you get it right.
I have been playing with cars since approx 1975. I have never made them look hot but, they have been absolute road thumpers. F the government. Great view Curtis.
Most of them will not, the Kia electric EV6 GT 420kw can reach 0 to 100 in 3.2 seconds, but the weight of the battery means its under the 276kw per tonne.
My golf r is as quick or quicker with around 200 KW and around 1560 kg so I could make 400 KW before I get the license and then it would do 0-100 in around 2.5 seconds so of course the qualification makes no sense I thought it would come in because of everything,s and rich non car people with fast Tesla's,s it makes sense as cars have gotten so fast but it should be free to get and of course if you have it cops will pull you over even quicker and give you a canary....as Australians we should protest these things harder.
At least a driver's defensive safety course for high powered cars should be essential. But then I think all new drivers should undertake a driver's defensive safety course. I would also support categorisations for towing over a certain size/weight(ie: caravans) and also for these American sized vehicles now hitting the roads.
Spare a thought for Germans who have to pay $1000's for their license and complete a driver's safety and defensive driving course way more thorough than what we do in Australia to get your license. At least they have the autobarn to drive these cars like they are meant to be done legally.
The answer is to teach people how to drive properly and stop giving licensees to foreigners without testing them first. Stop giving tests in foreign languages. That is just f-ing idiotic. Like usual many of the problems are caused BY THE GOVERNMENT.
How many accidents are actually cuased by foreigners who want speak English though? In my experience it's mostly a Caucasian I've had close calls with.
@@boozled86 Obviously there are bad drivers everywhere. Obviously our signs are in English so it is idiotic and dangerous to give licenses to, or allow people to drive who can't f-ing read them. I obvious can't mention certain countries because of UA-cams BS, but they allow people to come here and drive on our roads and they recognise the license from that country and don't put them through any driver training or testing. Some of those countries have very poor driving standards. Which is evident in the way they drive on our roads. It is f-ing ridiculous.
I heard a rumour that, In SA, they will be re-introducing a government examiner test to gain your probationary licence, like the did decades ago. Effectively the government of the day privatized the licencing system. Problem is there are garbage driving instructors, who were signing off on "P"plate licences for cash in hand. ALSO there will be a re-assesment of migrants showing international licences, and being handed a SA licence with no testing. Presume it will be introduced sometime in 2025
Exactly! Wasting Police resources. All this law will do is put Police under more pressures rather than concentrating on crime which is what the Australian public is concerned about.
It wouldnt stop him but he would be flogged with a whip in court after it went to court , the DH in the Lambo was actually 10-20 metres off the road when he hit the girl , she was standing in a chinese restaurant doorway in a carpark , the DH lost control badly and I dont think he paid much of a price for doing it ( killing her ) rich boy good lawyer syndrome
Well said mate, I just did mine just for the sake of it, just in case they move the goalposts and change their minds about our motorbikes. Like you said it came about from that nasty accident. But that hasn't been the only near fatal with an exotic in Adelaide in the last few years. All of them have been Daddys little glamour boys who are in no way car enthusiasts playing with stuff way out of their depth. They're the mongrels who can afford the big time law firms to walk away with little consequence. So they brought the laws in to make them accountable to some degree.
@@CurtisLSA After 6+ months of research (I watched a LOT of youtube videos) I was all set to buy my first ever motorbike - a Honda XR 150L. Yes, I'd have to purchase a helmet and safety gear, yes, I'd have to get a learners permit (that's nearly $500 !!!). However, someone in government decided that "emissions standards" mean a Honda XR 150L can no longer be registered. It's still on the learners approved list, you can buy one brand new - but NOT get it registered. That's ok, I've saved myself $$$ stamp duty, $$$ rego, $$$ learners permit, $$$ licence test. And I can still drive my 60 yr old farm tractor on the road (it IS registered) because the belching black smoke and continuous oil leak aren't as harmful to the environment as a 150cc carburettor engine on a motorbike.
If they were actually serious about lowering the road toll and making roads safer you would need to do a driving course, the fact it is just a knowledge test is proof in itself this is just a money grab.
That is correct yes . A proper high speed driving test would be more suitable and not just drive around the block in a hatchback and then passed after one test .
My guess is if you are a South Australian licence holder driving one of these cars and have an accident without that licence upgrade, you will be up shit creek without a paddle. The insurers won't pay. You will be considered " at fault" by the other driver's insurer, and if you injure somebody, you will be fracked in court when they bring a lawsuit against you.
I have a w507 and still have to have a U licence and you must drive in base driving mode or else a fine. I have got the licence but an interstate driver can come into SA and drive on your interstate licence.
I believe it's an SA thing. Almost every week, my son would get piles of infringements from SA filling our mailbox in WA. One ticket for a spelling mistake ( no such place of departure)
Mate, I have the same stance on the subject, but with how some people be, I like you understand, motorbike riders have similar as do truckies, just a new licence for an area that honestly should be done, I have always said "if you want to race or drive fast book a track day, the expense alone covers medical services and a road without the public"
Firstly it's a dunnydore & before you light me up I used to own a very low K dunnydore SS cop bait wagon but over being tugged for so may stupid reasons & as soon I pulled out the owners manual n showed them it use to be one of theirs they left me alone, it lasted 3 months & I was done, I have owned a Falcon BA II for the last 9yrs with zero problems & it's been my tow pig for 7yrs with due servicing been a mechanic 40+yrs... Long live the Barra INDESTRUCTIBLE!
lol Firstly, this video was not targeted at a "dunny dore" as you stated , yet about the U licence requirements . Second , no one cares if you sold your commodore for a shit box ford thing. Good luck to you . If the cops are targeting you, in any vehicle, then clearly you are being a dick in front of them or reports of you being a hoon . The old "police keep arresting me or targeting me when i break the law and do stupid things " comment . Ive had my HSV for 8 years and only ever owned commodores and never had an issue with police yet had police wind down their windows at time when sitting next to me at the lights and ask me about the car . Anyway , good luck to you for buying a ford , no one cares
To get that u-licence we should be doing an advance driving course. Not an online questionnaire. Thats not going to make you a better driver. Definitely a money grab
Most of the Idiots I see doing stupid things in cars aren't driving cars that would fall into this category. Most enthusiasts take care of their cars and don't flog the living crap out of them. My opinion is, even though it'd probably bring more cash grab comments, that if they were serious about saving lives, assessments would be made by and licences signed off on by defensive driver course assessors.
Are they going to have a special licenses for EV's as well? Even compared to high end super cars like Ferrari and Lamborghini EV's have completely insane amounts of acceleration which are more comparable to high-end performance motorbikes which already do have more acceleration over high-end performance cars. Besides the insane amount of power electric cars have the also do weigh about twice as much as regular cars because of the extra weight from the heavy battery packs.
I'm surprised that they're not hitting EV owners in the wallet because, being heavier, they do more damage to the roads. At least this would make more sense than a UHPV licence. They won't hit EVs just yet because they want people to buy them, but down the road my guess is they will.
The original Australian Constitution does not require any licence to control any vehicle on any Australian public carriageway, or to have to register any vehicle or insure it or it's driver or passengers against anything. To add laws to this original Australian Constitution requires a referendum. A referendum cannot be run by a corporation, e.g., the Australian Government Corporation or it's State or Territory Corporations. A referendum also requires the signature of the Monarch of Great Britain and Ireland, etc., etc., to be applied to Australian Law. So as it currently stands in ACTUAL LAW in Australia, there are no authorities that can apply any laws, police any laws, or penalize anyone for non-compliance with corporate made up rules that are not law at all. There are no lawfully installed courts or judiciary in Australia, except Common Law Courts that are created by we, the people, and are very hard to find. Admiralty courts and judiciary are ancient Maritime courts and judiciaries that have NO JURISDICTION ON ANY LANDMASSES, including Australia.
I'm yet to see SAPOL wheelnout the roadside dyno in order to check if your vehicle is an "UHPV". EVEN THE GTSR W1 doesn't fall into the UHPV regulations....
Just like ALL defects. We think your car is too loud, so to make sure its ok, heres a defect and an appointment to go to a government "Tax Collecting" station to have it tested by people who know more about cars thatn the cops.
and if that moron in the Huracan had been in Comadore, Falcon , Camry,etc nothing would have happened!! Tragic for the family of the young lady but no different to any other pedestrian killed by random tools that have more $$ than skills/sense. Would have been "Sorry for your loss"..... Purely a Govt spin job to appear to be doing something! If they where actually serious about changes, drivers of high Hp cars should have been required to do a practical driving course at a track with qualified instructors.....if a driver can afford a $500k car they can afford to do training...
It will have insurance implications and ensure people have some induction training before hopping into a ultra high powered vehicle. I don't know if it will be introduced in other parts of Australia. What happened to me in NSW when I purchased a VF SSV two years ago is the insurers asked if I had driven a high performance vehicle before. Their second question was how many years of experience did I have driving a high performance vehicle. I already owned a VE SS and they asked me how long I had owned it. My guess is if you are a South Australian licence holder driving one of these cars and have an accident without that licence upgrade, you will be up shit creek without a paddle. The insurers won't pay. You will be considered " at fault" by the other driver's insurer, and if you injure somebody, you will be fracked in court when they bring a lawsuit against you.
frankly I agree with the new licences when I was young a VB Commodore V8 5.0 SLE only had 114 kw now a standard Corolla makes more than that cars have become so much more powerful over the last 30 years
Tyres have become much better as well, the XR6 Turbo and Commodore SS came with 245mm tires and the higher end HSV's even wider while the a9x came with 205mm tires
So Good lad Johny does the right thing, gets UHP Licence, driving his Barra swapped Datto 120y - Cunstable Plodd then with his wealth of mechanical knowledge defects his vehicle because his eyes lit up as soon as saw the shiny UHP licence .....so much BS, such a police nanny state and country....rant rant rant, I don't even drive my VN BT1 anymore, it's like flies to honey and its stock 🤬
so how long till the police start to scan number plates for u license so they can defect modified cars , knowing now you need a u license for the power upgrades done to the car . just a new way for the police to target modded cars for more revenue..
A police licence plate scan only shows what the standard vehicle is in terms of its engine output. If the boys have any doubt they will order the car be taken to an inspection workshop for testing and fine the driver if the car's mods make it exceed both the 4.5T GVM and the 276kW/T power to weight ratio.
@@djshotty yes your right about that but, having the U licence is what the police will use as an exuse to pull you over and then proceed to go over the car to find anything they can to defect you said vehicle. If any mods found they will then send you off to have the car tested at regency . i'm guessing regency will now have a dyno for this .. this is just my opinion, i could be wrong but i wouldn't put it past the government when it comes to them trying to take more of our money .
Taking your GTS for example, plus Fords FGS GT, both these type of cars should NOT be allowed to be driven by anyone under the age of 21years, Under that, you are just asking for trouble. Like you Curtus, I'm in the middle also, but I still agree with these new laws coming into affect in SA in the middle of this year 2024. I've had my FULL licence for a lot longer than you've been alive, yes, I'm an OLD fart, but I've driven some high performance cars in my past. Also, I've driven over 1 to 2 millions ks over the years. I got my Bike licence at 17.8, with a fart box Susuki 100cc Ag bike, but held that for 5 mths then got onto a 1976 Kwaka 900, and that wasn't stoke either. Even the bike laws need to be tightened down also. Some of the 500cc bikes are quite able to do some crazy speeds. All the best to you buddy. Teddy.
I don't agree with this new law in SA. There needs to be some consultation with the public. Has this been done?. Will I need one when driving on GT7😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
It seems a wee bit pointless if there is no official practical test. All good that you can pass an online test ( as often as needed to pass ) It does nothing to make you a better driver when seated behind the wheel. If you can't handle the power .. you may still crash.
They've been doing this kind of thing to sports shooters for decades, even more so in recent years, and my car club buddies chuckled about it, but looks like it's come full circle now. To bad everyone who enjoys nice toys doesn't pull together but just sells each other out.
A VF GTS is 231.7kw/t anyway so is below the set point of 276kw/t , so im assuming it really boils down to wether any performance mods have been made ..
Tradies need U class licenses. Their current licenses allow the to drive up to 20Kmh faster than anyone else on the road, run red lights, park anywhere they like and road rage as much as they like, including changing lanes without indicating, even when other drivers are in the space they are moving into. U class licenses can't come soon enough.
It is about time they made an attempt at equalising ev vehicles toward more than just a licence fee as every internal combustion vehicle cops fuel levy and electric vehicles in the main recharge from fossil fuelled source.
Gee I wonder how many people have been killed in motor vehicles that don’t meet this criteria? Do we need a special UHPV (Underwhelming Horse Power Vehicle) license.
I think a defensive driving course should be mandatory within 12mths of getting a licence. I think at least an advanced driving course for driving UHPV should be mandatory. There is a huge difference between driving, point the car in the general direction you want to go and pressing the accelerator, and having the knowledge and skill to actually make the car do what you want and understanding the limits of the car and yourself. Driver skill is the single most important factor in fast lap times. Going by UA-cam videos 99% of people don't know how to set their seat up properly let alone brake and turn.
So with said licensing,do we get cheaper insurance?because having a specialised licence means you are professionally trained in the handling of high hp, similar to a defensive driving course giving an insurance discounts
@CurtisLSA my point exactly,it's just a money grab with absolutely no benefit for the driver/owner,all it does is create another revenue stream for our seriously corrupt government. Australia is headed for a civil war and it won't be pretty,not just from this but it's another thing to piss us off
The licensing seems superfluous but probably comprises a legal contract which assigns liability for a collision if any of the course guidelines aren't strictly adhered, such as prohibition of using any form of "Sport mode" on public roads in a UHP vehicle. Like the way if you're speeding you cop default liability even if the other driver caused the crash, this will give liability for any crash under the range of conditions given as restrictions for UHPV drivers. Failure to hold a UHPV license is an offence by failing to agree to that contract. And more restrictions may be introduced later. But, like you where it comes to the classification of UHPV they're not being unreasonable, they're talking about more power to weight than a late model AMG C63/S or A45/S or modding your WRX STI for over 590bhp which is well past 2 bar of boost so this is some real track monster stuff. And yes there are "sleeper" roadcars like the HSV GTS LSA that nudge past the line, modded cars on high boost ratings and low roadworthiness, and of course some of the Supercars mainly because those are ultra-lightweight. But for the most part people can go around driving entry level Ferraris, BMW M series and seriously powerful modded roadcars in the 4-500hp range without being touched by the legislation. It's only people with a deep wallet or reckless disregard who fall outside it. The only idiots out there with deep wallets tend to be organised crime so that's okay too, the others at worst get speeding tickets in their Lambos but have never had a crash in their adult lives, they're not going to be affected by a default crash liability this legislation seems to kind of represent.
I’ll look into it but yeah posting on anti theft devices can work the wrong way as criminals can see this and work out for the next one what to look out for .
If you drove into SA and didn’t have a licence driving a UHPV you can get a fine , if the sports mode is turned on and or if traction control is turned off yes
This license is a joke when electric cars go that much faster in a straight line than a combustion engine but they don’t stop the too heavy and Pete platers can drive them. You need a special license to drive an electric car. Get it right you politicians.
If any 'pretend' authorities send you and demand that you pay a fine or demand that you attend their Admiralty court, you will be named in CAPITOL LETTERS, e.g., JOHN DOE, and that is only a birth name that they have registered as a corporation at your birth, signed into place without your authority and therefore invalid. Just send it back in it's original envelope stating 'Return To Sender, this is a corporate entity and it is not stationed at this address'. Then add....'You could try The District of Columbia, Washington DC/US' (Which is where the company is registered). And cross off any pretend government trademarks on the envelope. Do not comply with any of their unlawful demands, or that becomes compliance that they consider to be lawful submission. They will try once or twice to scare you into submission, and if you do not comply, they will stop. Do not employ lawyers or solicitors to do this as they are part of the pretend system. Your real name is John Doe, not JOHN DOE. JOHN DOE is always a corporation. It is not you. Do not become your 'strawman' representative for the corporation, as you would need to be at degree level of understanding law to be able to beat them in their version of a court. Just do not comply, and do not talk with them or they will get you to say things that they will use against you that you have no understanding of. Do not talk to police, and do not talk to any of their officials at any level. They are only deceptive. They are as their 'father, Satanic'.
This will do nothing to stop the incident which bought on this new license. It will only effect those that were law abiding in the first place & increase revenue... again
How does a online course make you a better driver for a high powered vehicle? I hold motorcycle, car and heavy combination truck licence and the motorcycle knowledge and experience has made me and my wife better drivers.
paying for an online course is absurd, it costs them pennies. as for the $81, if you are rich enough to afford a vehicle like this I dont think you would give a toss about $81.
Agree, should be like motorcycles you need to work your way up and do practical exams. My father made me do the advanced driver training after I got my license and that was brilliant. Was mainly about braking in the days before ABS and it really reduced your stopping distance. But you can never legislate against stupidity and you can kill people driving a WIGO.
Have you taken the course? If so what was in it that will make you a safer driver? In the video you stated you could attempt it as many times as you liked until you passed it, in a 12 month period. When I was a teenager you only got 3 attempts at your L plate then you had to start from scratch. We also had to do our practical test with a police officer, I was told by a friend that his kids just had to complete a few hours with a qualified instructor and then play a video game at the licensing department. Sounds like the standards are falling.
They should have it as you must have hold a open licence for 10 years by the time you had a licence for 10 years you should be more sensible and the same rules as truck driver's 0 on drugs or alcohol for driving a high power car
I think the SA Gov't needed to be seen to be doing something in regards to that terrible accident. Money grab? probably, way stiffer penalties for vehicular harm incidents should also be introduced.. deal to the woke Judges, smart Lawyers....
Before everyone gets hyper out of place, yes its a $81 instant cash grab. BUT PLEASE READ THE ACT . Now thats sinister look out. According to the website my 2 v10s twin turbo awds dont need the licence, however According to The ACT. I do .
I thought this was click bait and had no idea SA were doing this ( in in NSW ) my 2017 R8 which is also an LSA is 410kw from factory and on the SA website its only a high powered car not UHP... i Guess the Harrop 530KW package i have will put it in that camp... What an absolute money grab form your government i bet all other states are watching to see if it works then we will cop it....
I think it is a good idea you can drive the vehicle on the public roads just obey the rules if you want to be a Peter Brock wanna be go to the track days that are held in every state you can find these online then everyone is safe .I qualify safe as not killing people who are innocent.
If the govt actually spent more time managing this country instead of taking away our everyday rights, this country might be a better, more prosperous place to live.
100% agreed
We are literally in a cost of living crisis mate the govt is doing a lot man it take a long time to steer the ship
@@jimmycarter8346 They've done nothing but hand out money trying to buy votes. The RBA has their foot on the brake & Albo's fools have their foot on the spending gas pedal. They've imported 1.5 million people to prop up the GDP figures. We've been in a recession since they came to power. Wake up mate !
@@jimmycarter8346 How was that cost of living crisis arrived at I wonder....
Having a UHPV licence isn't going to make u a better or safer driver, it's just a money grab...
Yes agreed
No it wont help you but what it will do is serve as a, well you have a UHPV you've fucked up now we will throw the book at you and if a jail term is required expect it to be at the longer end of a pedo giving you a good night kiss every day
Exactly
It's just another b💩 tax rort from the cancer of society ' Politicians !!
Nailed it mate 👍
The main reason why it's a money grab is that it is only an online tick the box and paying the extortion money. Where's the practical advanced driver education where you are taught car control, that would make more sense than ticking a,b or C as many times as you like until you get it right.
Good points yes
Agreed
What a load of Bs,cash grab again.
Yes it is
ABSOLUTELY 💯 BLLSHT
I have been playing with cars since approx 1975. I have never made them look hot but, they have been absolute road thumpers. F the government. Great view Curtis.
thanks for watching and subbing
Sleepers for the win !
A Tesla is quicker than HSV or FPV vehicles, will they be included with other ultra fast EVs.
If they fall under this U licence regulations they will hopefully
No doubt they'll get exempt coz EV
Most of them will not, the Kia electric EV6 GT 420kw can reach 0 to 100 in 3.2 seconds, but the weight of the battery means its under the 276kw per tonne.
Different sort of attitude.
My golf r is as quick or quicker with around 200 KW and around 1560 kg so I could make 400 KW before I get the license and then it would do 0-100 in around 2.5 seconds so of course the qualification makes no sense I thought it would come in because of everything,s and rich non car people with fast Tesla's,s it makes sense as cars have gotten so fast but it should be free to get and of course if you have it cops will pull you over even quicker and give you a canary....as Australians we should protest these things harder.
At least a driver's defensive safety course for high powered cars should be essential. But then I think all new drivers should undertake a driver's defensive safety course. I would also support categorisations for towing over a certain size/weight(ie: caravans) and also for these American sized vehicles now hitting the roads.
Spare a thought for Germans who have to pay $1000's for their license and complete a driver's safety and defensive driving course way more thorough than what we do in Australia to get your license. At least they have the autobarn to drive these cars like they are meant to be done legally.
The answer is to teach people how to drive properly and stop giving licensees to foreigners without testing them first. Stop giving tests in foreign languages. That is just f-ing idiotic. Like usual many of the problems are caused BY THE GOVERNMENT.
true yes
Don't let the government see you using this common sense. You'll get chucked in jail for miss information
How many accidents are actually cuased by foreigners who want speak English though? In my experience it's mostly a Caucasian I've had close calls with.
@@boozled86 Obviously there are bad drivers everywhere. Obviously our signs are in English so it is idiotic and dangerous to give licenses to, or allow people to drive who can't f-ing read them. I obvious can't mention certain countries because of UA-cams BS, but they allow people to come here and drive on our roads and they recognise the license from that country and don't put them through any driver training or testing. Some of those countries have very poor driving standards. Which is evident in the way they drive on our roads. It is f-ing ridiculous.
I heard a rumour that, In SA, they will be re-introducing a government examiner test to gain your probationary licence, like the did decades ago. Effectively the government of the day privatized the licencing system. Problem is there are garbage driving instructors, who were signing off on "P"plate licences for cash in hand. ALSO there will be a re-assesment of migrants showing international licences, and being handed a SA licence with no testing. Presume it will be introduced sometime in 2025
So cops are now going to be pulling up performance vehicles all the time for no offence but just to check if you have the right licence. FMD.
Pretty much
Justifying their jobs 🙄🙄 it’s a total money grab.
Exactly! Wasting Police resources. All this law will do is put Police under more pressures rather than concentrating on crime which is what the Australian public is concerned about.
Stop driving stupid and doing dumb things and this probably wouldn't have happened..
How would this license stop that DH in the Lambo from being a DH?
@@eebrik no ideas lol
It wouldnt stop him but he would be flogged with a whip in court after it went to court , the DH in the Lambo was actually 10-20 metres off the road when he hit the girl , she was standing in a chinese restaurant doorway in a carpark , the DH lost control badly and I dont think he paid much of a price for doing it ( killing her ) rich boy good lawyer syndrome
Knowing NSW if they brought it here everything about it would be way more expensive than any other state!
Same as qld
Yeah I agree with you mate-its always something with the Government!
We will get a tax for breathing soon no doubt
Well said mate, I just did mine just for the sake of it, just in case they move the goalposts and change their minds about our motorbikes. Like you said it came about from that nasty accident. But that hasn't been the only near fatal with an exotic in Adelaide in the last few years. All of them have been Daddys little glamour boys who are in no way car enthusiasts playing with stuff way out of their depth. They're the mongrels who can afford the big time law firms to walk away with little consequence. So they brought the laws in to make them accountable to some degree.
No doubt they will for motorcycles knowing the government
@@CurtisLSA After 6+ months of research (I watched a LOT of youtube videos) I was all set to buy my first ever motorbike - a Honda XR 150L. Yes, I'd have to purchase a helmet and safety gear, yes, I'd have to get a learners permit (that's nearly $500 !!!). However, someone in government decided that "emissions standards" mean a Honda XR 150L can no longer be registered. It's still on the learners approved list, you can buy one brand new - but NOT get it registered. That's ok, I've saved myself $$$ stamp duty, $$$ rego, $$$ learners permit, $$$ licence test. And I can still drive my 60 yr old farm tractor on the road (it IS registered) because the belching black smoke and continuous oil leak aren't as harmful to the environment as a 150cc carburettor engine on a motorbike.
If they were actually serious about lowering the road toll and making roads safer you would need to do a driving course, the fact it is just a knowledge test is proof in itself this is just a money grab.
That is correct yes . A proper high speed driving test would be more suitable and not just drive around the block in a hatchback and then passed after one test .
It's not about making roads safer it's so they can stop arseholes getting out of jail sentances by having an expensive lawyer.
Everyone in SA with a W557 pack just debadged the W557 from
their car.
True lol
My guess is if you are a South Australian licence holder driving one of these cars and have an accident without that licence upgrade, you will be up shit creek without a paddle. The insurers won't pay. You will be considered " at fault" by the other driver's insurer, and if you injure somebody, you will be fracked in court when they bring a lawsuit against you.
SA's becoming an embarrassment, but that's what happens under a Labor government.
I have a w507 and still have to have a U licence and you must drive in base driving mode or else a fine. I have got the licence but an interstate driver can come into SA and drive on your interstate licence.
My Harrop 530 will now come off !!
I believe it's an SA thing. Almost every week, my son would get piles of infringements from SA filling our mailbox in WA. One ticket for a spelling mistake ( no such place of departure)
going over the top id say SA government has been known to take things to far
Bet it was pushed by the greenies
😂you win the internet today 😂
How do the the guys trying to stop youth crime know how much kw or hp you have? Mobile dynos???? What a joke!
They would send you in like a exhaust test that would need to be tested within a time frame to get the defect sticker removed
Mate, I have the same stance on the subject, but with how some people be, I like you understand, motorbike riders have similar as do truckies, just a new licence for an area that honestly should be done, I have always said "if you want to race or drive fast book a track day, the expense alone covers medical services and a road without the public"
Firstly it's a dunnydore & before you light me up I used to own a very low K dunnydore SS cop bait wagon but over being tugged for so may stupid reasons & as soon I pulled out the owners manual n showed them it use to be one of theirs they left me alone, it lasted 3 months & I was done, I have owned a Falcon BA II for the last 9yrs with zero problems & it's been my tow pig for 7yrs with due servicing been a mechanic 40+yrs... Long live the Barra INDESTRUCTIBLE!
lol
Firstly, this video was not targeted at a "dunny dore" as you stated , yet about the U licence requirements .
Second , no one cares if you sold your commodore for a shit box ford thing. Good luck to you .
If the cops are targeting you, in any vehicle, then clearly you are being a dick in front of them or reports of you being a hoon . The old "police keep arresting me or targeting me when i break the law and do stupid things " comment .
Ive had my HSV for 8 years and only ever owned commodores and never had an issue with police yet had police wind down their windows at time when sitting next to me at the lights and ask me about the car .
Anyway , good luck to you for buying a ford , no one cares
thanks for the video man
no worries
More nanny state laws. More freedoms stepped on
yes true
Excellent idea. Perhaps an extra 50% levy for Holden drivers given how many of them drive.
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To get that u-licence we should be doing an advance driving course. Not an online questionnaire. Thats not going to make you a better driver. Definitely a money grab
This NEW license will prevent idiots from having crashs for sure.
Yeah it’s crap
Most of the Idiots I see doing stupid things in cars aren't driving cars that would fall into this category. Most enthusiasts take care of their cars and don't flog the living crap out of them. My opinion is, even though it'd probably bring more cash grab comments, that if they were serious about saving lives, assessments would be made by and licences signed off on by defensive driver course assessors.
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I’m in QLD but from SA too Curtis! I own a Maloo ute 🛻 too 🔥🔥
made the smart move also i see
Are they going to have a special licenses for EV's as well?
Even compared to high end super cars like Ferrari and Lamborghini EV's have completely insane amounts of acceleration which are more comparable to high-end performance motorbikes which already do have more acceleration over high-end performance cars. Besides the insane amount of power electric cars have the also do weigh about twice as much as regular cars because of the extra weight from the heavy battery packs.
I'm surprised that they're not hitting EV owners in the wallet because, being heavier, they do more damage to the roads. At least this would make more sense than a UHPV licence. They won't hit EVs just yet because they want people to buy them, but down the road my guess is they will.
Im curious about EV emmissions,when they catch alight. Im thinking a burning tesla battery is more toxic than my 25 year old petrol 6 cyl ford.
All part of the "you'll have nothing,eat zee bugs& be happy" plan.
The government should pay for it
The original Australian Constitution does not require any licence to control any vehicle on any Australian public carriageway, or to have to register any vehicle or insure it or it's driver or passengers against anything.
To add laws to this original Australian Constitution requires a referendum.
A referendum cannot be run by a corporation, e.g., the Australian Government Corporation or it's State or Territory Corporations.
A referendum also requires the signature of the Monarch of Great Britain and Ireland, etc., etc., to be applied to Australian Law.
So as it currently stands in ACTUAL LAW in Australia, there are no authorities that can apply any laws, police any laws, or penalize anyone for non-compliance with corporate made up rules that are not law at all.
There are no lawfully installed courts or judiciary in Australia, except Common Law Courts that are created by we, the people, and are very hard to find.
Admiralty courts and judiciary are ancient Maritime courts and judiciaries that have NO JURISDICTION ON ANY LANDMASSES, including Australia.
Thanks for the explanation mate would be good if more officers took you lead and spread the message much appreciated.
Thanks for watching
No worries mate good interaction about time you guys get some good news instead of the bad
I'm yet to see SAPOL wheelnout the roadside dyno in order to check if your vehicle is an "UHPV".
EVEN THE GTSR W1 doesn't fall into the UHPV regulations....
They would slap a defect sticker on it and you'd have to take it into a dyno or workshop at the governments choosing , to get it tested
Yep they will just defect you exactly
Just like ALL defects. We think your car is too loud, so to make sure its ok, heres a defect and an appointment to go to a government "Tax Collecting" station to have it tested by people who know more about cars thatn the cops.
Yeah, I'm all good. My best performer produces 52Kw/tonne, (or 16Kw/T fully laden) and it's turbocharged 🤣
You’re good to go lol
A true solution would be having to attend an advanced driver course for 1-2 days to learn car control in all conditions
So a Tesla plaid, which i hate to admit, beats most v8s, also have to pay this?
i would say so but plaid is not street legal in Australia its been banned
Plaid version was not banned it's just not being sent to Australia due to Tesla not wanting to convert to right hand drive.
and if that moron in the Huracan had been in Comadore, Falcon , Camry,etc nothing would have happened!! Tragic for the family of the young lady but no different to any other pedestrian killed by random tools that have more $$ than skills/sense. Would have been "Sorry for your loss".....
Purely a Govt spin job to appear to be doing something! If they where actually serious about changes, drivers of high Hp cars should have been required to do a practical driving course at a track with qualified instructors.....if a driver can afford a $500k car they can afford to do training...
Good points
What if you're a NSW resident with NSW Plates and you drive into SA on a holiday? Any thoughts?
It will have insurance implications and ensure people have some induction training before hopping into a ultra high powered vehicle.
I don't know if it will be introduced in other parts of Australia.
What happened to me in NSW when I purchased a VF SSV two years ago is the insurers asked if I had driven a high performance vehicle before. Their second question was how many years of experience did I have driving a high performance vehicle. I already owned a VE SS and they asked me how long I had owned it.
My guess is if you are a South Australian licence holder driving one of these cars and have an accident without that licence upgrade, you will be up shit creek without a paddle.
The insurers won't pay.
You will be considered " at fault" by the other driver's insurer, and if you injure somebody, you will be fracked in court when they bring a lawsuit against you.
True yes
frankly I agree with the new licences when I was young a VB Commodore V8 5.0 SLE only had 114 kw now a standard Corolla makes more than that cars have become so much more powerful over the last 30 years
Tyres have become much better as well, the XR6 Turbo and Commodore SS came with 245mm tires and the higher end HSV's even wider while the a9x came with 205mm tires
So Good lad Johny does the right thing, gets UHP Licence, driving his Barra swapped Datto 120y - Cunstable Plodd then with his wealth of mechanical knowledge defects his vehicle because his eyes lit up as soon as saw the shiny UHP licence .....so much BS, such a police nanny state and country....rant rant rant, I don't even drive my VN BT1 anymore, it's like flies to honey and its stock 🤬
Haha nice
so how long till the police start to scan number plates for u license so they can defect modified cars , knowing now you need a u license for the power upgrades done to the car . just a new way for the police to target modded cars for more revenue..
A police licence plate scan only shows what the standard vehicle is in terms of its engine output. If the boys have any doubt they will order the car be taken to an inspection workshop for testing and fine the driver if the car's mods make it exceed both the 4.5T GVM and the 276kW/T power to weight ratio.
@@djshotty yes your right about that but, having the U licence is what the police will use as an exuse to pull you over and then proceed to go over the car to find anything they can to defect you said vehicle. If any mods found they will then send you off to have the car tested at regency . i'm guessing regency will now have a dyno for this .. this is just my opinion, i could be wrong but i wouldn't put it past the government when it comes to them trying to take more of our money .
Yeah can’t wait for this to happen, if it’s not a yearly tax then I guess adding it to the original license isn’t sooo bad
Taking your GTS for example, plus Fords FGS GT, both these type of cars should NOT be allowed to be driven by anyone under the age of 21years, Under that, you are just asking for trouble. Like you Curtus, I'm in the middle also, but I still agree with these new laws coming into affect in SA in the middle of this year 2024. I've had my FULL licence for a lot longer than you've been alive, yes, I'm an OLD fart, but I've driven some high performance cars in my past. Also, I've driven over 1 to 2 millions ks over the years. I got my Bike licence at 17.8, with a fart box Susuki 100cc Ag bike, but held that for 5 mths then got onto a 1976 Kwaka 900, and that wasn't stoke either. Even the bike laws need to be tightened down also. Some of the 500cc bikes are quite able to do some crazy speeds. All the best to you buddy. Teddy.
Thanks mate.
I don't agree with this new law in SA. There needs to be some consultation with the public. Has this been done?. Will I need one when driving on GT7😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
nice video mate proper rules
yes few vids out there saying people cant drive their cars anymore
Electric vehicles?
if they fall under the gategory then yes they would need it but most EVs are over 2 tonnes due to the battery weight the SUVs are anyway
It seems a wee bit pointless if there is no official practical test. All good that you can pass an online test ( as often as needed to pass ) It does nothing to make you a better driver when seated behind the wheel. If you can't handle the power .. you may still crash.
MASSIVE MONEY GRAB THATS ALL!!!!
yes agreed
Next thing we will be charged for breathing
truth
The carbon tax was for us exhaling
That explains why an influx of VF SV6 Commodores for sale on facebook and Carsales in the last few weeks.
How about my FGX XR6 Sprint? 325-370 kw
if it falls under this gategory then yes
You safe - if your FGX weighs 1.7ton (example) and you are producing up to 370kw - that is 217kw per ton - so its under the limit.
They've been doing this kind of thing to sports shooters for decades, even more so in recent years, and my car club buddies chuckled about it, but looks like it's come full circle now. To bad everyone who enjoys nice toys doesn't pull together but just sells each other out.
Blatant revenue raising!
Yes
Tank 300 lifts its rear wheels off the ground completely under emergency braking as per paul maric carexpert test and this is suppose to help?
Its only an online assessment. some how another form of tax comes to mind
like stamp duty on house. Another form of legal theft
Hope it teaches you how to do a 100 yard standing burnout.
A VF GTS is 231.7kw/t anyway so is below the set point of 276kw/t , so im assuming it really boils down to wether any performance mods have been made ..
Tradies need U class licenses. Their current licenses allow the to drive up to 20Kmh faster than anyone else on the road, run red lights, park anywhere they like and road rage as much as they like, including changing lanes without indicating, even when other drivers are in the space they are moving into.
U class licenses can't come soon enough.
One SPOILS it 4 The REST .
Agreed
@@CurtisLSA Hope this Don't come to UK .i've a VXR8 HSV 6.2
I hope no other states do this!!!
It is about time they made an attempt at equalising ev vehicles toward more than just a licence fee as every internal combustion vehicle cops fuel levy and electric vehicles in the main recharge from fossil fuelled source.
Gee I wonder how many people have been killed in motor vehicles that don’t meet this criteria? Do we need a special UHPV (Underwhelming Horse Power Vehicle) license.
What about all the electric cars that are just as quick or even quicker are they going to be listed to apply as well I hope so
Agreed
I think a defensive driving course should be mandatory within 12mths of getting a licence. I think at least an advanced driving course for driving UHPV should be mandatory. There is a huge difference between driving, point the car in the general direction you want to go and pressing the accelerator, and having the knowledge and skill to actually make the car do what you want and understanding the limits of the car and yourself. Driver skill is the single most important factor in fast lap times. Going by UA-cam videos 99% of people don't know how to set their seat up properly let alone brake and turn.
So with said licensing,do we get cheaper insurance?because having a specialised licence means you are professionally trained in the handling of high hp, similar to a defensive driving course giving an insurance discounts
nothing is cheaper in this world
@CurtisLSA my point exactly,it's just a money grab with absolutely no benefit for the driver/owner,all it does is create another revenue stream for our seriously corrupt government.
Australia is headed for a civil war and it won't be pretty,not just from this but it's another thing to piss us off
40min online course and you're good to go. What the hell..
The licensing seems superfluous but probably comprises a legal contract which assigns liability for a collision if any of the course guidelines aren't strictly adhered, such as prohibition of using any form of "Sport mode" on public roads in a UHP vehicle. Like the way if you're speeding you cop default liability even if the other driver caused the crash, this will give liability for any crash under the range of conditions given as restrictions for UHPV drivers. Failure to hold a UHPV license is an offence by failing to agree to that contract. And more restrictions may be introduced later.
But, like you where it comes to the classification of UHPV they're not being unreasonable, they're talking about more power to weight than a late model AMG C63/S or A45/S or modding your WRX STI for over 590bhp which is well past 2 bar of boost so this is some real track monster stuff. And yes there are "sleeper" roadcars like the HSV GTS LSA that nudge past the line, modded cars on high boost ratings and low roadworthiness, and of course some of the Supercars mainly because those are ultra-lightweight. But for the most part people can go around driving entry level Ferraris, BMW M series and seriously powerful modded roadcars in the 4-500hp range without being touched by the legislation. It's only people with a deep wallet or reckless disregard who fall outside it. The only idiots out there with deep wallets tend to be organised crime so that's okay too, the others at worst get speeding tickets in their Lambos but have never had a crash in their adult lives, they're not going to be affected by a default crash liability this legislation seems to kind of represent.
Yes agreed
Can you do a video on protecting these HSV’s from theft.
I’ll look into it but yeah posting on anti theft devices can work the wrong way as criminals can see this and work out for the next one what to look out for .
Only in SA. Not in QLD , Victoria and NSW.
My question is - if you drive a UHPV into South Australia from another State where that licence is not required, would it be an offence?
If you drove into SA and didn’t have a licence driving a UHPV you can get a fine , if the sports mode is turned on and or if traction control is turned off yes
It would be more beneficial to have a trailer licence a specially for caravans
We the people can get the law changed, if you get enough people signing a petition saying why! Try it!
This license is a joke when electric cars go that much faster in a straight line than a combustion engine but they don’t stop the too heavy and Pete platers can drive them. You need a special license to drive an electric car. Get it right you politicians.
If any 'pretend' authorities send you and demand that you pay a fine or demand that you attend their Admiralty court, you will be named in CAPITOL LETTERS, e.g., JOHN DOE, and that is only a birth name that they have registered as a corporation at your birth, signed into place without your authority and therefore invalid. Just send it back in it's original envelope stating 'Return To Sender, this is a corporate entity and it is not stationed at this address'. Then add....'You could try The District of Columbia, Washington DC/US' (Which is where the company is registered). And cross off any pretend government trademarks on the envelope.
Do not comply with any of their unlawful demands, or that becomes compliance that they consider to be lawful submission.
They will try once or twice to scare you into submission, and if you do not comply, they will stop.
Do not employ lawyers or solicitors to do this as they are part of the pretend system.
Your real name is John Doe, not JOHN DOE. JOHN DOE is always a corporation. It is not you.
Do not become your 'strawman' representative for the corporation, as you would need to be at degree level of understanding law to be able to beat them in their version of a court.
Just do not comply, and do not talk with them or they will get you to say things that they will use against you that you have no understanding of. Do not talk to police, and do not talk to any of their officials at any level. They are only deceptive. They are as their 'father, Satanic'.
Is this measurement from the wheels or the crank?
This will do nothing to stop the incident which bought on this new license. It will only effect those that were law abiding in the first place & increase revenue... again
agreed
How does a online course make you a better driver for a high powered vehicle?
I hold motorcycle, car and heavy combination truck licence and the motorcycle knowledge and experience has made me and my wife better drivers.
the driver didnt even get jail time after the crash
yeah i read that . Law courts are broken in Aust
So my KW prime mover will be a UHPV classification. ?? 😳🥴🙃
I was wondering the same thing mate!😂
paying for an online course is absurd, it costs them pennies. as for the $81, if you are rich enough to afford a vehicle like this I dont think you would give a toss about $81.
Agree, should be like motorcycles you need to work your way up and do practical exams. My father made me do the advanced driver training after I got my license and that was brilliant. Was mainly about braking in the days before ABS and it really reduced your stopping distance. But you can never legislate against stupidity and you can kill people driving a WIGO.
Just vote him out. We’ve all had enough of this Parliament.
i think both parties agreed to it though
@@CurtisLSA uniparty doing crap all. Vote One Nation, United Australia Party
@@jsonattard2179 good point
If you drive within the posted speed limit why do you need another license? Government scam
Think of all the oldies with their teslas having to have a high performance licence 😂😂
Have you taken the course? If so what was in it that will make you a safer driver? In the video you stated you could attempt it as many times as you liked until you passed it, in a 12 month period.
When I was a teenager you only got 3 attempts at your L plate then you had to start from scratch. We also had to do our practical test with a police officer, I was told by a friend that his kids just had to complete a few hours with a qualified instructor and then play a video game at the licensing department. Sounds like the standards are falling.
They should have it as you must have hold a open licence for 10 years by the time you had a licence for 10 years you should be more sensible and the same rules as truck driver's 0 on drugs or alcohol for driving a high power car
Good point
I think we gunna need a licence to breath soon...
its coming lol
Walloped on back of head by Billy club.."where's your gold mining licence??" Not replying?? resisting.
That cost is ok.
admin fees are a rip off
$2 million dollar app someone has to pay it 🤣
Same as rip of rego on bikes in nz
Rip off everywhere
I think the SA Gov't needed to be seen to be doing something in regards to that terrible accident. Money grab? probably, way stiffer penalties for vehicular harm incidents should also be introduced.. deal to the woke Judges, smart Lawyers....
Go Gunners
Always !
Before everyone gets hyper out of place, yes its a $81 instant cash grab. BUT PLEASE READ THE ACT . Now thats sinister look out. According to the website my 2 v10s twin turbo awds dont need the licence, however According to The ACT. I do .
So if it’s proposed or rumoured in SA, why have a photo of Albo featured ?
I thought this was click bait and had no idea SA were doing this ( in in NSW ) my 2017 R8 which is also an LSA is 410kw from factory and on the SA website its only a high powered car not UHP... i Guess the Harrop 530KW package i have will put it in that camp... What an absolute money grab form your government i bet all other states are watching to see if it works then we will cop it....
yes for sure they will
Better still why don't they have a licence to tow a caravan and keep the roads save the road
i agree
Car Control? I started racing when I was 8 years old! do I need to sit my test? Im 69 years old.
I think it is a good idea you can drive the vehicle on the public roads just obey the rules if you want to be a Peter Brock wanna be go to the track days that are held in every state you can find these online then everyone is safe .I qualify safe as not killing people who are innocent.