Viktor is dying?! | Arcane S1 E5 Reaction & Review | 'Everybody Wants To Be My Enemy'
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- Arcane League of Legends | Season 1 Episode 5 Reaction & Review | ''Everybody Wants To Be My Enemy"
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Here we go, we are continuing our journey of Arcane!
Since it was highly recommended by all of our viewers to trust in the story, we are going to do just that. We don't know what to expect from Arcane just yet, but we are sure keen to see whether it lives up to its hype! So... without further ado, here is episode five!
Intro: 0:00 - 4:43
Reaction: 4:44 - 25:16
Discussion/Review: 25:17 - 28:33
Outro 28:34 - 28:54
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Haha it was funny when it finally clicked why Powder is called Jinx.
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@@SpartanandPudgey Also....Milo said it first ;)
Nice question about the Tattoos! So Jinx's way back when she was officially released in the game she has those tattoos, in her 3D model and her official Splash art but... here in arcane there is a whole new layer of meaning behind them and you will get the meaning of it in the next episode.
For Vi it's also a cool one, there is a Hoodie that Riot games gave as a present to Fortiche animators with a complete version of her back tattoo, just missing some smoke on the top that whe can se when she is in prison, it features 2 keys each one with a letter, an M for Mylo and a C for Claggor, and the rest of the Tattoo is dedicated to Powder, Gears and machinery it's a whole homage to the respect and admiration Vi has for Powder's creativity and inventions, it also represents Vi's Backbone keeping her upright through all these years in prison just thinking about her sister, it's what keeps her going it's beautiful.
I love this - so much detail and meaning in just a tattoo
@@SpartanandPudgey Right?! And there are a lot of hidden gems trough out the series, attention to details, an example is the design of all the council members clothing, all are close to being perfectly symmetrical, except for one... can you guys guess who? you actually mention this character on this episode calling him out about being different 😊
@@Newborn_God oh no, i dont remember.... is it heimerdinger?
@@SpartanandPudgey Right on! Heimerdinger's jacket right below the neck has a fold and the buttons don't trace down right trough the middle.
Oooh nice good pick up!!
So the thing about Jinx's relationship to Silco...
You kind of have to view her as that little kid who hasnt really emotionally grown since the day she lost everyone. She is still a little girl who just wants her dad to love her.
Also, she clearly has a pretty bad case of Impostor Syndrome. So she NEEDS constant validation, and whenever Silco withholds it, she is going to lash out.
Some people view their relationship as pseudosexual, but i think they both understand that she is just a little kid who wants a hug from her dad.
They couldve framed it a bit better to make it less creepy though.
The writers have stated they wanted their interactions to be weird and off-putting, actually. It's a habit of this show to never get you into a comfort zone with anything that's happening, like just when Vi gets her kick ass fight with Sevika and wins, she gets caught off guard and knifed in the gut. And the scene with Marcus/Silco and the grenade fakeout. Also the Jayce/Mel romance scene interspersed with Victor struggling with figuring out the hexcore, collapsing and weird shit taking place. Always a little bit of satisfaction with concern mixed in.
@@gman7497 Yeah, I haven't kept tabs on what the writers have said, but it annoys me how people in the comments are anxious to explain that it's just a father-daughter-relationship, and even start to analyze why. That's a spoiler! This is just my opinion, of course, but I feel like it's something that shouldn't be discussed in the comments without spoiler warnings, until the last episode drops.
But since we've already gotten into this SPOILER, I'll add that just from watching the show, it's easy to see that the relationship is supposed to seem a bit creepy at this point, like you're unsure of where it's going. The show is telling a story, and that means not all info is revealed at once. What at first may seem villainous is revealed to be a lot more sympathetic, and things that seem heroic at first are revealed to be problematic. That's good, complex storytelling, and it's a shame to see that spoiled.
TL;DR: It's a structural decision on the part of the writers to reveal these story beats when they do, and people rushing in to explain what hasn't been explained yet is a bummer for me as someone who enjoys fresh reactions. I hope Spartan and Pudgey have already recorded all their reactions so they won't get spoiled by the comments.
@@juho1891 Yeah, these comment sections tend to be spoiler minefields, and both reactors and viewers are worse off for it. 🤷
@@juho1891 Don't worry, we accounted for spoilers in the comments ;) We came prepared!!
@@turquoise839 tbf though, the show has been out for awhile and it's been kinda a slow burn of people getting turned on to it over time and watching it. Normally with highly acclaimed shows there's a huge binge by everyone right away. Here it's like everyone is excited about this new thing and wants to tell people about it. Not saying it's good to spoil but I can see how it happens.
So, the show doesn't explicitly discuss the tattoos for Vi or Jinx, but there is meaning there which becomes more clear after episode 6. It's kind of one of those "show don't tell" things.
The funeral was for the bombing by Jinx. I think Marcus is essentially roped in ever since his first "blood money" situation in episode 3. With Grayson killed, he got the glory for arresting Vi and getting a culprit for the council on the explosion in episode 1; the result was a road to Sheriff with likely help of Silco manipulating the truth of situations over the years. He visits Grayson's grave knowing full well his actions led to her death, immediately after hosting a funeral for Officers killed by Jinx, and consulting Silco soon after. He knows that he is nothing compared to Grayson, he looks up to her and knows he is stuck with the cycle of violence he in part created.
I'm pretty sure Vi was arrested covertly (she had no crime records, Silco didn't know, etc), and we don't know what made Marcus sheriff just that he continued to work with Silco.
Yeah. I think Markus' guilt for Grayson's death is what has kept him hooked - he's trying to honour her memory by playing the same game she did, but Silco isn't Vander.
completely agree with this !
@@turquoise839 This is true.... i feel like its all an unsaid....
Jinx’s tattoos could be a reference to that fateful day of the explosion. In her eyes, it was the moment when her first gadget worked and which made that brilliant blue explosion. From that moment on her life completely changed for better or for worse, she “adopted” her new name, “found” a new family and father figure, it was the start of the next chapter of her life.
oooo I like this theory, it definitely fits well!
@@SpartanandPudgey I think the blue clouds are a reference to something you haven't seen yet. So I don't want to spoil it. I can't prove it, but I like to think she got them as a symbol of hope for something that may happen in Ep 6 :)
@@AmosTrask32 Accurate.
@@AmosTrask32 Yeah, that's pretty much it. I got pretty emotional once I realized it.
Jinx, the intelectual capacity to do in days with junk, what the studied topside needed years for, combined with the emotional framework of a "stuck at 7 year old" ADHD/PTSD person, is what makes her really scary.
Well technically she had the research notes she stole, and recreating is always easier than creating the first time... but still yes, Jinx is an off-the-charts genius for working it in... ONE day.
Jayce went down and was little spoon, what a chad.
HAHAHAHHA
It's actually opposite, Vander was the radical extremist, if you look in episode 3, the epilogue with Vander drowning Silco, he's younger without a beard. It's believed that Silco was the calm diplomatic type who tried to negotiate peace with Piltover and establish the nation of Zaun, but Vander was hot-headed and demanded immediate action, that's why he betrayed Silco and tried to kill him and lead the revolution himself, he failed and created Silco's "villain" character, which later on resulted in the war breaking out and Silco going into hiding, since you only see Vander himself on the bridge with a beard later on in the future in episode 1, he also told how he regret doing all the things in the past and when he found Vi and Powder on the bridge and their parents dead, he changed inside, he became a pacifist and took in the girls to redeem himself for his consequences and that's how he became the "hero" character. Everything about this series has a Yin and Yang esque vibe about it, it's a balance of two opposites and duality of the two opposites as a indivisible whole.
I completely agree with this!!
Arcane has done amazingly well with their pacing of the show…as you said, you need the build up to get the emotional impact. When it was originally released they released it in 3 acts. So episodes 1-3 were released the first week, episodes 4-6 were released the next week and episodes 7-9 the final week. This helped to show how they were pacing the show and they did an incredible job with it. Keep up the good reactions guys
Thanks Temple!
Also a fun little tidbit that took me a while to realize, the scene with Jayce and Mel sleeping together, interwoven with the scene where Victor's blood enters the hexcore means something really important. In Mel and Jayce's scene, their act is one that creates life. In Victor's scene, we see his blood enter into the hexcore and attach itself to the magic in a spiraling helix pattern reminiscent of a certain double-helix molecule . . .
. . . because Victor is also creating life.
thats a cool contrast indeed! thanks for highlighting that, good pick up
you guys should keep an eye on mel. yes she’s definitely manipulative but if you really listen to the things she says, it’s hardly as “evil” as some people think initially. there’s a certain level of politics that come with the kind of power jayce has and he needs to learn how to play if he’s gonna keep it. i don’t know about you guys but i don’t know of many multi billion dollar corporations owned and operated by a single person (or 2 to include viktor). he needed the partners/ investors.
also, jayce and caitlyn would NOT have been okay. let’s not forget that he said he was 24 in act 1 while she was around 13 or 14. her family sponsored him and their relationship is more like that of siblings.
I think she was 15, but yeah. Jayce is basically like a brother to her. Besides, Caitlyn's not fishing in that pool either way...
@@mathies3598 oh yeah i know lol but that girl did NOT look (or sound) 15 to me. vi did but not cait. her feet still dangled for christ’s sake! 😂
@@chance1774 fair enough😅she could be a few years younger too
@@chance1774 True but the streets age people quicker while privilege preserves innocence - for better or for worse.
@@AngeloBarovierSD i agree… still don’t think that girl was supposed to be 15. it’s surprising to me how many reactors think they see something between her and jayce.
I think Spartan is a little misunderstood in these comments. His fav character died early. I remember when (GOT spoiler) Ned Stark died at the end of season 1 of GOT and he was my fav. I figured the show wouldn't be as good without him but the other characters grew on me eventually. I was just still sad about him dying and needed some time.
I think viewers greive the loss of certain characters without realizing, especially if we like and identify with them. And that's perfectly okay.
Anyway, SPARTANS ARMS 😳👉👈
Haha im definitely being misunderstood in the comments I think people didnt listen to what i had to say in the discussion properly without getting defensive. I get it, the community is very passionate about this show. Thanks for the support CVQ!
Agreed!
-Pudgey
@@SpartanandPudgey I never got the idea that you guys didn't like the show, you just seem more analytical about it than most reactors I've seen, which I find interesting. Alot of fans really identify with the characters and as such the emotion of that attachment carries the show for them. But not everyone watches TV shows the same way, we all focus on different elements of it, and that should be understandable.
thanks Gman! we appreciate your insight and glad to have you with us 😄 We are glad you see us as analytical as we make an effort to be so
I LOVE VI N CAIT ;-;
They're so cuuuute together
the guy with violin on stage is a cameo by the soundtrack guy.
i believe i read those tattoos on Jinx are the from a thing in next episode referral.
Never understood this idea. Why would the tattoos refer to a (future) thing she hasn't seen before, and also, what would it communicate?
I think the tattoos have no significance, they're just a design detail.
@@turquoise839 Mmm, (emotional) spoiler territory here but, yes, there is a significance to them. Jinx is addicted to symbolism, both intentional and subconscious.
@@turquoise839 i know, i believe it was just the artist choice and writers. Since this show isnt 100% accurate to the game lore.
@@AngeloBarovierSD It's true that Arcane is drenched in symbolism but it doesn't make sense in this case, at least for me.
@@turquoise839 I get you but I'm specifically talking about Powder/Jinx, who has been expressing herself through art since she was a kid. The character loves symbolism.
Thanks guys for another great reaction!!
Some people associate Jix tattoos, with the events that happens at the end of episode 6, won't spoil it now, just keep it in mind.
Ohhh noo, caitlyn and jayce are more like siblings in arms, there's a 9 year age difference and besides she might be uhhh... yaknow [insert spongebob curved hand]
Honestly it baffles me everytime a reactor assumes that cait and jayce like eachother. There was an OBVIOUS age difference in the beginning. Like he looked at least 19-20 years old, while cait looked like a literal child. I guess it comes from the mentality that boys and girls can't be friends without some sort of romantic connection 🙄
@@fang3982 he litterally said he was 24 in like his 3rd scene which is the funny part. I'm like do people not connect that caitlyn is the same girl that... was helping him carry stuff back then?
@@fang3982 On the contrary I think. Most of my dearest friendships have been with males and I value them a lot. I think we felt that the way they were so close and admired each other (which can of course happen in friendships too) made us want to see them together.
** It didn't have to be while Cait was underage though.... many couple have a 10 year age gap and work perfectly well once they are of legal age.
@@SpartanandPudgey .... honestly I guess I see where your coming from, but it still doesn't sound realistic. It would be like a brother dating a little sister. If they didn't know eachother prior, then the age gap would be less of a problem. But it's because jayce, the literal *24* year old knew cait since she was 14 makes the concept that they like eachother look weird and problematic. I just find it interesting that as soon as we see Vi and Cait flirting with eachother, then people have a problem and want to bring up why cait and jayce aren't together. Personally I believe if Cait was flirting with a man the preconceived notion that she likes jayce wouldn't have been brought up🤷 But maybe I have this opinion because I kept up a little with my league of legends lore, and both Vi and Cait being a couple was always hinted at for years.
yeah bare in mind we are wrapping our head around a lot of unknown lore in only 9 episodes 😆
In the beginning when we saw Vander from the past it was clear he was the violent and impulsive one. He was the one who started the riot, he was the one that marched it over the bridge and now in the present he has remorse over that and two adoptive dauighters. Because of that I assumed that actually Vander was the violent one and Silco back then was trying to reign him in, and their roles have just reversed as Silco was hardened by Vanders betrayl and Vander was softened by having to raise children.
Just a F.Y.I.; Arcane is a very slow blooming flower. Each one of the three acts that season one is separated into are there to slowly build up the characters for you, so you can have people to identify with. Season one, itself, is a prelude to where the story of League of Legends is currently at.
I won't tell you what you should or shouldn't like, and you still have a ways to go thru season one, but I will say this to keep in mind: Even if season one falls below what you'd like, give season two a chance. The world is just opening up at the end of season one.
Of course, we will for sure!! Thanks for the comment!!
I don't understand Spartan saying that he doesn't feel related to anyone because they're mostly woman. What that has to do? In Bug's Life I felt related to Flik and he's an ant xD. As far as they get human traits and are well written you should be able to feel empathy and connected.
I dont relate to the characteristics of them. I related and connected a lot with Vandor. thats the kind of characters i connect to in most series. Doesnt mean i have no connection, but I dont fully relate to their character and relate it to myself, to the extent that may allow me to feel more than I do. It isnt the only factor that matters, but in this show which os very character driven, it is important
@@SpartanandPudgey That I can understand. The only part I didn't was the one of needing to be the same gender, species or whatever xD.
I nearly spit my drink out when you called Heimerdinger "the little rat guy".
Next episode have probably one of the best and emotional scenes from the whole series. I look forward to the reaction.
There are two theories of the blue cloud tattoos that makes sense. One, is that after the explosion in episode 3 huge clouds of blue smoke rolling up from the building. So its a high chance its trauma related. The other that makes sense could be a spoiler so I leave that one out.
oooooo okay, i didn't think of that!! Thanks for sharing!
@@SpartanandPudgey on the next episode you will figure it out what the smoke tattoos are right on my fav song ,also take a look at vi's tattoos (and let us know what do you think they could mean ?! is not the first theory for shure!
Vander's past isn't particularly mysterious. You can piece together what roughly happened. Vander was a leader in the Undercity and tried to lead a rebellion against Piltover. There were heavy casualties as seen by the scene on the bridge, which includes the deaths of Vi's and Powder/Jinx's parents.
Vander realizes that the cost of being free from Piltover was too great (reflected by the talk with him and Vi on the bridge asking her who she's willing to lose), which results in him making a deal with Grayson. The enforcers won't come to the Undercity unless things spill over to Piltover. Silco didn't agree to the deal because he wanted the Undercity to be completely independent. Vander couldn't control Silco, and so Vander tries to kill him for the sake of keeping their deal in place.
i actually think they were leading the rebellion together. silco’s lines of “we shared a vision vander!! a dream of freedom!” and vander’s “what i did to you that day… i’ve never forgiven myself. you were my brother.” i think they were partners (like jayce and viktor) and the rift came when they couldn’t agree on the methods that should be taken to achieve what they wanted.
Vander tried to kill Silco way before fighting on the bridge. They look much younger in flashbacks, probably in their 20s, and Silco said he kept respect for Vander even after attempted murder until Vander made peace with enforcers.
We don't know why exactly Vander wanted to kill Silco. Most important point here that Vander was violent hot-tempered man, but he started suppress his bad side after he took care for Vi and Powder. Silco reffered to it in his line: "I knew you still had it in you".
And ..... spoilers ahead!!!!
Vander probably is Warwick.
@@user-hn1cx2hs8j According to Amanda Overton (one of the writers) the Vander-Silco fight takes place after the events on the bridge.
@@turquoise839 Yep.
@@turquoise839I didn't find this and Vander clearly looks way younger in flashback with fight between him and Silco than in flashback on the bridge. You can compare by yourself, watch these scenes. Vander doesn't have any beard and looks very different and much younger. Vander on the bridge is pretty much the same except less gray hair.
hello guys, it is interesting the background of what was the situation of Vander and Silco in their youth before the battle of the prologue of episode 1. but the lawsuit that left wounds in both of them in the river occurred much earlier, as I understand it, since Vander has longer hair and his beard is different and the wound on his arm was recent, when Vi and Pouder see him, his appearance is more similar to the current one and his wound on his arm seemed already closed. Silco and Vander apparently created the Zaun independence movement and fought for leadership with each other and the bridge massacre was led by Vander himself. On the other hand, Jayce is undoubtedly following Mel's game but it's not as if she was using it but rather preparing it for her, it's as if she needed the presence of another gear in her pyramid since she is one of the wealthiest people from Piltover. As for the lack of male characters, believe me they will not be disappointed, let's make a list of the gentlemen: Jayce, Victor, Marcus, Silco, Dr Singeed, Heirmenbingger. and the ladies: Jinx, Vi, Caytlin, Mel, Savika. the show has 5 episodes and always involves someone entering or leaving.
The relationships between the characters make the diference on the time, make shure in negative or positive ways they are not forced.
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This is one of those few anime that each episode brings something new. Either unique animation, , interesting characterization, plot changes. You never know what you are in store with this series.I love that.
It is quite complex and full of detail and that's what I love
Each and everyone is taste but ep3 put you to tears and you're still like "meh.. That's an OK show". Just curious how marvel does it better for you with it's shallow storytelling
Ep 3 was brilliant. but since then i havent felt that extent of impact. not to say the story isnt good, im just not amazed. It is personal preference as well, I dont connect to the main cast as much, especially being predominantly female. Marvel since endgame and onwards hasnt been great with its story telling overall, and even throughout i didnt necessarily think everytjing was amazing. For me, in recent times, The Witcher sereis has had brilliant story telling and Attack on Titan anime.
- Spartan
I'm personally not that surprised. Episode 3 is mind-blowing, and is what's hook you in the series, but most people will only consider Arcane as a masterpiece once they finish it. I think anyone will agree that Arcane is better on rewatch. There are so many layers and hidden details that you only notice and appreciate once you have the whole picture.
Personally, I binged the show, and once I finished it I was like "wow that was great". One week later "Wait a second that was awesome". And now, 4 months later, having rewatched it an unhealthy amount of times and still obsessing over it, I'm like "Holy cow, that's a fucking masterpiece" xD
Give it time. If they like AoT, there's a big chance they'll love Arcane ;)
@@SpartanandPudgey I'm sorry if I'm gonna sound like an asshole here but I'm not gonna sugarcoat my words, hope you understand.
Even before and during End Game era I feel like Marvel was playing it safe the whole time. Same formula every film with the only exception being Infinity War. Maybe you like action scenes dominant films? Idk but Marvel standard of storywriting could be compared to every cheesy blockbusters out there with no art merit. It's like Grammy award where overhyped artists are being nomimated just because they are famous and people are watching it for stupid dramas. That's how I feel Marvel as a whole as a person who watched every Marvel films and TV shows they ever produced.
Imo Daredevil was something trully special (as Arcane intro was also inspired by it, if you haven't watched it, it's a great show!) while other Marvel shows are basically character cameo shitfest with no context subtances or whatsoever. You might want to check out Bojack Horseman, Breaking Bad, Sopranos, Mad Men, Mr Robot if you really want good storywriting shows. Marvel is a really bad example for "good" writing and I doubt it will never be if they just keep playing safe as long as people like you are satisfied with their script standard.
@@morganegerme684 I think that it is a show that I would get a lot of value out of upon a rewatch. I'm definitely a geek for the smaller and hidden details.
-Pudgey
@@ThiccChoncc We definitely encourage freedom of speech on our channel, so no need to apologise when putting forward your viewpoint !
I feel this way too about marvel. There are definitely some epic stand alone movies, especially the ones that were made a handful of years ago.... however, like you said... they have started to hold back from the depths and have become very comical and light hearted. Spartan and I don't typically like this. We want to feel something, connect with the emotion, instead of a joke fest - otherwise we would have watched a comedy.
Spartan has watched Daredevil and loooooved it. I am yet to watch it, but it is on my bucket list.
We are definitely enjoying arcane and I'm personally loving the minor details it brings. However, storytelling is only as good as the characters you can connect to. I've connected to some, however Spartan, like he mentioned in the end discussion, didn't feel connected to any characters besides vander, and he passed.
So, again... just to be clear... because I think most people keep missing this point.... we definitely feel emotion and depth in Arcane and we are of course enjoying the series... we wouldn't call it bad or anything. It's definitely a good series.
We will just have to see how the next handful of episodes go :)
Remember, Vi and powders parents dies on the bridge in episode 1. That was what Vander was talking about to Vi in episode 2 when he took her to the bridge. This caused Vander to change his mind on the war and after that, was when he tried to kill Silco.
Are you saying he tried to kill silco after everything went down?
Just wait to the final episode
i really do appreciate u guys being critical. I really do! But how in the world can u say "u´re not all-in yet?", when in fact u teared up in Ep 3.
I wonder why exactly you´re not into it? Is it the buildup you´re worried about? What exactly is it?^^
Animations are gorgeous, dialogs are perfect, characters are interesting and worldbuilding is awesome. imo
Anyway, i really enjoy your reactions, keep it up =))
haha thanks appreciate it. Ep 3 was indeed captivating but since then that story progress has felt slow and not as impactful. I know its introducing a new arc and building the next phase but it hasnt maintained that epic feel that i felt in the 3rd episode
I think I'm a little more invested than Spartan, but i feel the same.... I think why will be cleared up even further soon!
spartan was on point with Marcus
he's a guy who was lost and then got caught deep in a conspiracy early on and he's just lived like business as usual since then, sort of just getting carried by the wind
edit: "how easily you could get duped into the whole system" yeaaaap. Jayce is also a lost guy who got sucked into a whole thing and being blown this way and that. Esp so this episode.
he wouldn't ever been the person who does bribery and corruption, but he does it anyway
wow pudgey's memory is wild. that you rmb that little lady in the brothel
hahaha what an epic shared moment of realisation on the Jinx name
edit2: I think Caitlyn is meant to be smth more of a little sister to Jayce. Tho yea it's hard to rly tell the exact ages
haha isn't 'Enemy' just a bop?
"yea, smash the b*ch. I like her!" haha same brother
I'm sure you'll be able to relate to Jayce later on ;)
The tattoos will click soon
Guys, what's your problem with characters' names? :D (And Silco has been calling Powder Jinx since episode 4!) Apart from that, cool reaction, pertinent comments. A few remarks:
- Sevika isn't part-human, she's just a "regular" person... with a robot arm. :)
- I'm not sure that Vander, although a good man, didn't play an active part in the starting of the war. In any case, nothing suggests that he was just a passive participant.
- The Romance scene, a "Disney feel"? Really? I can't see it. To me, it looks more like a James Bond opening credits.
- Jinder has spent years believing that her big sister left and betrayed her, she has no reason to think otherwise.
- Finally, 7:17 : I too thought that they would fill the gaps at one point... they never did. This is the only BUT substantial issue I have with this monumental series so far.
haha we know.. we suck with names. Usually we dont but Arcane for some reason has tested us 😆
thanks for clarifying some of those points! appreciate you joining us 😊
I often wonder the same, but then I remember that i know half of these characters from the game and then i remember that i watch shows with subtitles - and they usually show names more often + if you know how to spell it, it's easier to remember.
I don't know how it's possible to be on the fence still. Like for instance The Witcher is cool but as a show it doesn't hold a candle to this. This masterpiece will be remembered for decades as one of the best animated shows of all time. Maybe one of the best shows ever actually. In terms of story-telling, show-dont-tell, art, soundtracks, emotions, action, voice-acting. I think some people do not realize either how much work doing 1 minute of this level of animation is.
On the fence, really ? :/
We definitely appreciate the work put into this series....from all aspects, the animation, dialogue, and small details....
I think it just comes down to personal preference and making connections.
I do believe this series has a high rewatch value.
At this point I don't know what you're looking for but it's still early in the story but I was in after the 3rd episode and I'm a movie buff. I felt that the creators has made some solid choices in telling an interesting story that kelp my interest increasing after the 3rd episode but we will see if it will have that same effect on you by the next episode but the 7th episode is my favorite some say the next but all the next episodes are petty good in my book.
If you're still confused about our thoughts, there are some lengthy responses to some of the comments further elaborating!! However, we will be posting a review to give a detailed response about our honest thoughts, that should help give clarity!
Looking forward to sharing those episodes :)
@@SpartanandPudgey it's just seem your woman is just co-signing your thoughts and secretly enjoying it more than you but I don't know if it just a thing she was taught from her upbringing or culture thing.
I'm definitely enjoying it more than Spartan.... there are lots of things that make me excited in this series that will be detailed in the review. but my feelings and thoughts are my own. Promise 😄 I think you will all come to realise that it is very difficult for Spartan to convince me of his viewpoint if it differs....
@@SpartanandPudgey sorry if I might have insulted you but it just seem you were being passive about your opinions which seem contrary to his but you allowed him to control the narrative of what you both liked. I understand his position kind of there is not a lot of action more character development and talking but we they fight it's earn and you feel the weight. That is why episode 7 is my favorite episode can't spoil it but I feel is the main battle of this story which I would like to share once you guys make it to that stage.
Victor works, Jayce...sells.
Hope you upload episode 6 .. really think your gonna enjoy that one ☝️
we will! keep an eye out 😁
Not relating to Vi because she’s not a dude is a weird take
Lmaooo same I thought so too
It really isn't. I connect more to masculine characteristics than feminine...and whilst they have certainly made Vi have some more masculine traits...the way she empathises, hurts and deals with her grievences emotionally, reminds me a lot more of the women in my life. Pudgey has been able to connect to these characters more so than I have. Of course this isnt a blanket rule..some guys will connect depending on their characteristics. But characters I trasitionally love and am able to connect with are usually more like Vandor. Since this show is very character driven that is important to me.
@@SpartanandPudgey but this isn’t about gender, I mean, unless it truly is and that’s kinda weird. Surely you would connect with a woman who displays what you perceive as traditionally masculine characteristics? I mean, Vander is a pacifist…which is more traditionally a feminine characteristic??? I’m not trying to shit all over you but characteristics are not assigned to gender or sex, you just relate to certain characteristics more. Which is not a gender thing, it’s a normal human thing….??? I truly don’t understand lmfao
Thats an oversimplification. Vandors mannerisms, the emotion behind his face, the way he talks, the way he carry's himself, the burdens he shoulders, he's an Alpha male and I connect to it. Compare even to the same gender..Jayce, Silco, Viktor
..all great characters but i dont see the world through their eyes. They dont get my juices flowing...Vandor hits the spot for me. thats the archetype that I connect with the most
Characteristics are assigned to gender. Women by nature are more agreeable, more nurturing and empathetic. their toughness still encompasses these. Masculine is more defiant, emotionally repressed, competitive and ambitious etc.
P.S and just to clarify i didnt say i dont connect with at all, just not to the degree I would if it was someone more suited to what I opt for
@@SpartanandPudgey i truly think that you’re oversimplifying, stuffing men and women into boxes after we’ve gone through millions of years of evolution and improvement. “Alpha”, “beta”, “sigma”..these terms were first introduced by a scientist who studied captive wolves and their behaviours. And spent the rest of his life trying to sort out his mess and tell people that he was wrong.
Although if you wanted to talk about “Alpha Males”, Silco is protective, ambitious, astute, witty, restrained, reserved and hardened. He is the epitome of an alpha male. Not Vander, who was pacifistic, collected, empathetic, soft-spoken, nurturing…positively maternal.
Speaking of, It is not our biology that allows you to perceive women as maternal or empathetic or nurturing. It is the duties that we have been forced to perform over centuries.
But I’m not going to convince you over a UA-cam comment, so I’ll leave it here.
You’re allowed to say you relate to a character more, I just think the reasoning behind it is far too narrow-minded and downright immature.
But agree to disagree
Have you guys seen attack on titan?
We have, its one of my (Spartan) favourite Anime. unfortunately watched it before we started a YT channel
@@SpartanandPudgey have you caught up? What are the chances you can react to the recent episodes or the new ones coming on 2023?
We have caught up, honestly we would have loved to do AoT on the channel would have been super fun but we had watched most before starting the channel and felt it wasn't worth it. We will cover other anime soon though! some of the newer ones
@@SpartanandPudgey i see! Starting on Season 4 Part 2 during its run would have been great too! I see a lot of reactions start on later seasons and still get a lot of traction for their channel since the reactions are current. Anyway maybe for the part 3 on 2023 you can do it. Hoping to see it! Either say it's fine. Love to see more from you guys.
You asked for comments on Jinx's tattoos. I have seen a lot of good theories, but I'm pretty sure someone summed it up perfectly in another video's thread. If it hasnt been spoiled by the end of your series, it is a lot to talk about. Great video as always!
Thanks so much 😁
I think this show is more focused on characters than plot, so while the plot is competent, it's not the main strength of the show and probably won't wow anyone.
Of course that means if you don't connect strongly with the characters, it's definitely not going to hook you as hard as it did a lot of people, which is fine! It might just be this show doesn't vibe as hard with you as it did a lot of people.
Luckily I think the strength of the animation, voice acting and character work at least make this show enjoyable to most people, even if it doesn't become a favourite.
agree David! I personally dont fully connect with the main characters which will be explained in future, but am still enjoying the show, although not to its fullest potential.
- Spartan
most of the plot is a little obscured, there's a lot going on in terms of politics, but in between the lines, it is not unpacked before our eyes, but part of the dialogue. It is very inconspicuous. That's what I liked with the series. But, agree, character development/interaction is core, no plot twists per se. Its basically about Silco being a freedom fighter/terrorist trying to gain independence from Piltover by creating the nation of Zaun (unite the undercity). Shimmer is a key component as it serves as a form of diplomacy of violence, compelling Piltover to give independence in fear of the power potential in shimmer, and other things to come (spoiler).
@@thomasjohansen8152 Yes agreed!!!
First of all, yes, the show is character-driven, which is a GOOD thing, BUT the main story line with the two sisters and Silco is more than competent, it's beautifully written.
Secondly, initially, I shared your opinion about the rest, including the story line with Jayce and Viktor, but a second viewing made me realize that it was much more complex than I thought : the societal aspect of the show aren't is strongest suit, undeniably, but there are in the dialogues a lot of things that flew over many viewer's head. Dialogues about war and politics, for example.
Thirdly, everything brilliant about episode 9 doesn't only come from the characters.
Yeah this show doesn't really have a strong male lead...so if that's a deal breaker, you're gonna have a bad time.
In the next episode there is something that could answer your question about what her tattoos mean! Silco and Jinx's relationship does seem a bit uncomfortable but its supposed to be like that, with like how close they get and stuff. Jinx is honestly very intelligent, she used the hexcrystal and is stabilizing it just with little bits of information. This show is so great with pacing and it just gets better and better!!! See you in the next reaction!!!
It shocked me at how smart she was, being so capable when we saw her as powder... the complete opposite.
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Bro saying vandoor is getting on my nerves
Congrats to Pudgey being voted favorite reactor during the premier stream! ... even if it was rigged. 😉
HAHAAHAA I love it!
Thanks for joining us!!!
mark my words, Im coming back for 100%
- Spartan
I don't know about what's the meaning of powder's tattoos it's probably related to ionians but Vi's tattoos are the symbols of her gang because she used to be a big named gang leader base on the lore but in arcane her tattoos are just a design.
Powder's tattoo is the flare that Vi gave her.
The fact that this guy doesnt see the greatness of this show, i no longer trust or care for his point of view.
🤣 so you were looking for confirmation bias? theres plenty of other reactors who will provide that!
Oh man .. last 4 episodes ... best of the best !!
In the scene when Jayce is with Mel and Viktor is in the lab with the Hexcore, why I feel that both are doing the exact same thing at different ways? 😏
Exchanging cells with someone, or something...
HAHAHAHAHA love this
Creating life, one way or the other 😂
For me this is one of my all time favorite series but not everything is for everyone. Like the Avatar movie everyone I know loved it and was pretty meh on it. With that said though I would say the most impactful and best episodes are 3, 6, 7, and 9. I will be curious if your guys over all feelings change by the end.
Exactly right!!
Looking forward to getting those out to you !
Lol marvel end game was worst...what a bad way to the last fi8 (worst setup..and charecter underdeveloped)... infinity war was 100% better...yll like end game "storytelling" i got ur taste...u MAY like arcane at the end if u get what it really meant...
Hey!
We thought end game was pretty average too and definitely missed the mark with emotion and flushing out characters stories in a meaningful and fitting way. We understand you're passionate about Arcane, and we love to see it! We are definitely enjoying the show and looking forward to seeing what the finale has to offer!! 😁
agreed end game sucked, infinity war was a million times better
- Spartan
As far as the interactions between Jinx/Powder and Silco feeling very uncomfortable at times the show creators have said that is by design. It's supposed to feel uncomfortable for the audience because their relationship is not a healthy one ... for Jinx at least.
I've never understood that, no matter what the creators said. People who feel uncomfortable see a sexual undertone (without it, the unhealthiness wouldn't make them uncomfortable), but Silco doesn't seem interested one bit in Jinder as a sexual partner, which is good because he's already twisted enough (the show isn't super interested in romantic pairings anyway, for some reason), and I don't see Jinder fantasizing on him AT ALL, she just needs a daddy and has boundary issues.