Starting to realize that battle royals usually focus on earning the audience's sympathy because there is nothing else to reason or relate with. I still love the ham-fisted drama, no matter how bad the genre gets.
Fate fan here, yet someone who tried to enjoy Fate/zero and couldn't. I genuinely can't see the draw for it outside of the arc of Rider and Waver. As you said, kiritsugu didn't need his own story. We see the reflection of his ideals on his adoptive son in the visual novel Fate/Stay Night(route 1) and Unlimited blade works(route 2), also a direct reference to the type of person kiritsugu was in Heaven's feel(route 3) while his adoptive son ends up steering away from the ideals entirely in that route. *Fate spoilers beyond this point* I very much prefer the 3 routes over Zero for how each one dealt with Emiya Shiro's borrowed, twisted version of his father's ideals. Stay Night saw him getting to know Saber, someone who had similarly self destructive ideals, and how much he was against it made him eventually notice how hypocritical he was being. Unlimited blade works had him literally fighting the end point of his ideals directly, and while his ideals didn't change, he was no longer alone in the path he wanted to follow. Heaven's feel had Shiro directly go against his ideals, even having a few opportunities to go back to his old ways, fighting to save a girl who is by all accounts a monster. Every point in Heaven's feel where you are given either make a decision to be a "Hero" who wants to save everyone, or someone who decides to save one person regardless of the cost; the former is his previous ideals which leads to death, the latter leads to successfully saving the person he wants to save and the world in the process.
Alright this really convinced me to have another go with Juuni Taisen, always felt there was more to it but never gave much thought to it. I'm much more willing to now
Finally, someone talking about this anime. Personally I didn't really connect with this anime HOWEVER it was a VERY interesting watch and by the end I had a lot to say.
Starting to realize that battle royals usually focus on earning the audience's sympathy because there is nothing else to reason or relate with. I still love the ham-fisted drama, no matter how bad the genre gets.
Fate fan here, yet someone who tried to enjoy Fate/zero and couldn't. I genuinely can't see the draw for it outside of the arc of Rider and Waver. As you said, kiritsugu didn't need his own story. We see the reflection of his ideals on his adoptive son in the visual novel Fate/Stay Night(route 1) and Unlimited blade works(route 2), also a direct reference to the type of person kiritsugu was in Heaven's feel(route 3) while his adoptive son ends up steering away from the ideals entirely in that route.
*Fate spoilers beyond this point*
I very much prefer the 3 routes over Zero for how each one dealt with Emiya Shiro's borrowed, twisted version of his father's ideals. Stay Night saw him getting to know Saber, someone who had similarly self destructive ideals, and how much he was against it made him eventually notice how hypocritical he was being. Unlimited blade works had him literally fighting the end point of his ideals directly, and while his ideals didn't change, he was no longer alone in the path he wanted to follow. Heaven's feel had Shiro directly go against his ideals, even having a few opportunities to go back to his old ways, fighting to save a girl who is by all accounts a monster. Every point in Heaven's feel where you are given either make a decision to be a "Hero" who wants to save everyone, or someone who decides to save one person regardless of the cost; the former is his previous ideals which leads to death, the latter leads to successfully saving the person he wants to save and the world in the process.
Alright this really convinced me to have another go with Juuni Taisen, always felt there was more to it but never gave much thought to it. I'm much more willing to now
Finally, someone talking about this anime. Personally I didn't really connect with this anime HOWEVER it was a VERY interesting watch and by the end I had a lot to say.
dope.
Do I detect a hint of N.Irish in your accent?
Yep, I'm from Belfast.