The cops get a C-? All the little snide remarks and hate for the man. Then soliciting a trespass against him and lying about how his ID is necessary for an investigation even tho they are still charging him with loitering and prowling which tells me they would have no matter what. You love these “emotion police” who charge people for their attitude.
Why do you not make it clear that you do not ever have to help investigate yourself when being accused of a crime. Period. And if you ate suspected of a crime and detained then you have a right to remain silent. Either way, it's it's violation of human rights to demand identity.
how is that a c- for the cops? huh? behaving like false cops. arrest based on false accusations and screaming and #->[. when they deserve imprisonment themselves for kidnaping a wrong person AND wasting time instead of catching and searching for the real culprit. they deserved f(or lower if possible) AND jail too. (for weaponized incompetence too). why is id so important to that specific investigation? what does it matter?
@mysticwindfairy Fairy your tail. Furry. Whatever. Certainly patriarchy is at play here. Gosh darn commenter's! It can't possibly be the female officer was acting like part of the patriarchy. NO not at all. Female in charge? I bet you don't even know what "matriarch" means.
When the cops say that if a person would have simply given up their ID they would have been free to go, they are admitting that they have no legitimate reason for an arrest.
And like usual, how would the ID help LEOs determine if he was the one trying to open cars up or not? Did they have the name of the actual person that was trying to open up cars?
If I’m on a jury, the arresting officer is automatically presumed by me, to be a liar. And they aren’t the most intelligent group of people in any situation.
1. Abolish qualified immunity ASAP, 2. Abolish civil asset forfeiture ASAP, 3. Make it illegal for a cop to mute or turn off a cop body camera, 4. Make it cheap, easy and fast for a citizen to obtain any and all records - not redacted when possible. 5. Make all internal investigations subject to independent civilian oversight. 6. Fast track civil rights lawsuits into months instead of years. 7. Do not let a cop simply “retire” only to move to a different department.
They have no clue how to investigate. If they did it would save a lot of innocent citizens. But then why would they do their job correctly. So damn sad.
Because he’s defensive of the fact that he’s innocent that tells the female cop that he’s guilty. Incredible! She needs to be handcuffed and arrested for kidnapping.
It's probably more common than you think too. Cops will use nervousness as a reason to suspect a crime, even tho like 90% of people get anxious when interacting with an officer 😂 she comes off as a bully
Exactly lol. Like if I know I didn’t do nothing n you keep telling me I did I’d be defensive too. I’m not ID ing bc I didn’t do anything and I don’t have to.
The thing that always gets me is that the cops could easily tell if he was their guy or not by asking the hotel to show them video, but they never ever ever want to actually find evidence and figure it out conclusively. All they want is ID.
@@marvinchurch8235That's exactly what they intended to say and precisely what they meant to say when they said it. It's not that it didn't 'come out right' it is that the person that said it is completely and utterly corrupted by their own ego and self perceived senses of authority, power, superiority, entitlement, privilege and overall confidence in their belief in that they are just simply smarter and morally greater than anyone who doesn't wear a badge that was issued by the particular police department that they themselves work for.
Every cop, "You got some ID...I just need a little ID...Let me have your ID...I'm jonesing for some ID..." Do cops get bonuses for running IDs? Lazy policing at its worst.
It’s part of their intelligence gathering scheme. It’s why they get so upset when you refuse to ID because they can link you to something now or in the future and retaliate against you in numerous ways.
If they can run someone's ID and find that they got a warrant or something, it makes their job a heck of a lot easier and they can just drop all investigation and arrest the guy there, then throw whatever charges they want in, hoping that just because the person was wanted that will automatically convict them of any other charges. Then they can go back to watching netflix on their phones at a gas station.
I got turned down by the academy because I’ve moved around four different states and had to get a new ID a bunch of times. I seriously thought I was gonna get arrested during the initial screening… but I’m really glad it happened because it pushed me to pick a different career.
I got turned down by the academy because I’ve moved around four different states and had to get a new ID a bunch of times. I seriously thought I was gonna get arrested during the initial screening… but I’m really glad it happened because it pushed me to pick a different career.
@eneresolong what were her grounds for trespassing? Why was his employer not recognized & respected when he said, " he's not the guy?" His employer was the only reliable witness there. I would sue Hilton if I were the victim of this...the dude, just put a hard days work in laying tile, grabbed an ice cream that was in his hand (evidence) from the gas station.... did anyone swing by gas station and see their cameras? Check the time stamp of his purchase and the time stamp of 911 call? No, none of that. I dont agree with the c- at all...... F The casual walk around cops eating ice cream screams innocent..... why do you think Biden eats so much ice cream? It's a politicians trick to look innocent like this dude. Smh
@@accik (Assuming the cops are *actually* investigating and aren't just warrant fishing) Contact information is used to confirm things like Alibis and to prove innocence (or guilt). If the police find out that a credit card with your name for example was at a gas station during the time that the crime happened elsewhere, then giving your information to the police proves you innocent. Conversely, if they were investigating a crime that happened at the gas station, then your ID just made things worse. If you actually committed the crime and you believe that your name would be incriminating, I suppose you could tell the police to arrest you and plead the 5th. They can find out who you are anyways in this scenario by doing things like facial recognition at the jail.
Once they get their ID fix, they hope it will show the victim has a warrant. They can then use all their toys because "resisting arrest" and their night is complete. Rinse, repeat when they need their next fix.
He was a guest. He did belong there! Sue them. Also, the witness who identified him from a distance through a window while he was handcuffed in the back seat of a cop car, said he was wearing pants. The guy in the back of the cop car was wearing shorts. And then they went and solicited a trespass. Sue the crap out of them!
Yes, the witness saying the suspect was wearing pants just blew it for the officers reasons for arrest and their credibility - you could see the male officer looking unhappy.
not knowing which corporate behemoth owns which hotel brand does not render a person 'clueless'. Thinking that this is the only information required to make such a judgement might be.
@@selseyonetwenty4631 Have you ever seen a Hilton Hotel? They make it pretty obvious that they own "Double Tree" when their name Is literally plastered on it.
@@selseyonetwenty4631do you live in your mother's basement. There are literally hundreds of double tree by Hilton hotels. All 4 star of not 5 star + there is a big name sign in front of him
They care about arresting someone for anything with the least amount of effort. You're getting arrested because you interrupted them from doing nothing. That is a crime because four cops had to put forth the effort to show up.
Fucking authoritarians. Order following tyrants. They are not to be trusted because they don't serve or protect anything but the state and corporations.
@gibblespascack1418 good point. Lord forbid they walk him up to the man in cuffs, surrounded by badges and guns. His safety is at risk. What gutter trash. 🗑️
There is that video of a law student in a dorm who refuses to show ID until the officers demand Id under threat of arrest. At that point he would show ID and would have a legal basis to sue them. I think thats a good thing for every American to learn, push to the point of threat of arrest and the surrender Id, later sue. Instead of repeating your rights but ending up in jail.
"I didn't do it." means you did it. "I did it." means you did it. "I don't answer questions." means you did it and you're obstructing the investigation. What kind of logic is that?
I was pulled over a few mornings ago on my way home from work, and the cop started asking me where I was heading, where I was coming from, etc. When I told him that I don't answer questions, you'd have thought I just slapped him by the look on his face. 😂 He asked me why not, and I said that I'm not obligated to. He looked so confused. 😂 He walked back to his car, came back less than 2 minutes later, and let me go without even a warning. 🤣 Sometimes, standing on our rights works, even if it's only because the police don't know how to handle it. 🤣
“Even if every person here tells us you’re not the guy you’re still going to jail” perfectly shows how much they actually care about “justice”. All they care about is punishing people who bruised their egos.
And making quotas, and getting their jollies abusing people. Speaking of abuse, have you ever looked into the studies about law enforcement personnel and perpetration of domestic violence?
They don't want to investigate. Ten people tell them that's not the guy! Meanwhile the actual perp is still breaking into cars right under their goddamn noses! unbelievable, completely ignore the actual call and get obsessed with identifying this guy.
Who knew standing on our rights could be so upsetting and instigating. They might appreciate and know our rights if they needed them. They get qualified immunity so ….
If it turns out that this man is innocent. He should sue the s*** out of DoubleTree and the police department.. I do not believe the witness knows for a fact that it was him.
Also if you say you "did not" do something it means you did it. If you say you "didn't" do something you're telling the "truth" what the hell kind of evidence of a crime is that?
I mean it's fishing but it could give you things . That's the issue though you can't just check in case you would find something or they'd be doing that to everyone for anything just to see. That's a police state.
@ when did I saw anything about them demanding ID? Do you not hear how ridiculous you sound? All I said was him having a hotel key wasn’t enough to prove he wasn’t trying to open car doors. You guys really need some reading comprehension skills.
I work for a company that almost exclusively operates abroad; we have people all over the world, staying in hotels, months at a time. We spend millions on hotels every year. I've personally worked in 18 countries. Good to know how Hilton treats their guests.
@@robv5834 well if the opposite of ignoring it is calling police who think that not speaking to them is obstruction of "justice", then yes I'm for them ignoring it. The hotel has no proof and the police don't know how to investigate. They act like the man's ID will magically say whether or not he was trying to open car doors. 🤣🤣🤣
Not a single cop goes to the convenience store where the man was buying a popsicle. Now, I know how to cause complete chaos at a hotel. All I need to do is say that I saw some guy flipping car handles in the parking lot and then go to my room and watch the chaos unfold.
Soooo this is funny because I saw this same scenario actually happen from my second story window: two cars w/e they might have cars parked to each other or something.. third car alright this is bad as mine was the 10th car away. Called and watched the fuzz pull up by the 8th car which was surprisingly fast and boy did drama escalate beyond anything thought possible. Turns out he was an off duty something or other and was drunk as skunk and admitted to trying to get into cars to find clothing (it was in the low 20's F with snow on the ground and he was in shorts and flipflops) then a woman drives in and taps a squad car claiming she was looking for him. Both booked and stuffed. Then the officers come knocking on every door of second floor probably looking for us who called it in. It was 1am when first called!
No one listened to his Boss. No one cheeked his room key. They could have gone to the room and asked him to identify belongings. No effort except he would not bow down, so he must be guilty.
These cops are dangerously ignorant. They insisted Doubletree has no affiliation with Hilton, when it’s literally on the sign. If these cops don’t admit they committed crimes here that’s just evidence of their guilt-isn’t that how their logic works?
They don't even have an actual complainant here! They have a lady saying that some guy who isn't there anymore said that some white dude in a black hoodie was pulling on door handles. Gimme a break! And I'm so sick of hearing, "If you'd just done what we asked, you wouldn't be arrested." It's like saying, "If you'd just given me your money, I wouldn't have robbed you."
The man was eating ice cream, so he was checking car doors took a break went to a store for the ice cream then returned to finish his crime spree after his snack. SMDH!
@@noelwright8740 perhaps he found some spare change in one of the cars and used it to buy some ice cream and then returned to look for more change because the ice cream is so delicious.
Dumbest encounter ever.. 1. Boss said he belongs here 2. He has a room key 3. A different person said it was him he just came from corner store and said it was a homeless man that was the one doing it Boom suspicion is now accounted for and he’s good to go
@@seeya205 so let’s just arrest everyone we see. Even tho we don’t know who did it and nothing was actually stolen. Do you understand how naive you sound?
Seeing a member of the public’s ID to link to a crime must be some kind of cop super power that the rest of us mere citizens don’t possess. The same with that other clown demanding his date of birth and threatening jail. What tyrants threatening, harassing and intimidating the public in this way
16:08 - So. In stead of finding the person who was allegedly trying to open car doors, ALL of these cops are All Focusing their attention on the person who is exercising his 4th amendment. What? Seriously?
It’s easier to get an innocent man with an ice cream than a criminal. Cops here are scared so they grab the wrong guy because it’s easier. Cowardice in the field. The receptionist wimped out she should have said it wasn’t him. Cops here have never caught a criminal in their lives they just do bits of nothing.
It's like they malfunction once they hear the word no. They don't know how to handle someone saying no to them. Retaliating against the person who said no supercedes anything they were called out for.
@@chriscald9426because they're so used to people just bending over willingly. I can't be mad at people doing it, because I understand their fear of potentially being economically terrorized and put in a cage.
Right! The real criminal is out there pulling on door handles *_AS WE SPEAK_* while the keystone kops are getting their filthy jollies by harassing an out-of-state worker. Real classy!
That female cop is INSANE - because he defended himself and said "I'm not doing anything..." she "knows" he is guilty??!?!?!? So what is someone supposed to say who did nothing??? "I did it"?????
Even the fact that he had a room key and they totally ignored it after they said oh this is not a Hilton and one more thing he has big white letters down the sleeve of his hoodie and I never once heard the people say that and never heard the police ask
@@jeremyhodges7956 because they knew the arrested the wrong guy. They just don’t care whose lives they ruin. It’s disgusting. We the people should be ashamed of ourselves for allowing our LE to become this tyrannical. It’s APPALLING!!!!
If ai was him, I would have quit on the spot and told that boss to go fuck himself. Who are you to allow law enforcement to illegally identify someone?
The shrill lady cop actually said she thinks its him because he wouldn't surrender his 4th amendment right. Im so tired of these cops. Edit: WOW she actually claims that if you say "i didn't do" it means you didn't do it but if you day "i did not do" it means you did it? What amazing police work.
@@TheDragorin I didn't say it was a violation, I'm referring to when the shrill female cop said that not showing your id means you're guilty because if you didn't do anything wrong you would show it. Please try to keep up.
@ Absolutely. Why would a possible suspect try to break into cars THEN go to a gas station, buy an ice cream and then come back to the EXACT location to eat it? To gloat? These aren't law enforcement officers. They're mall cops given firearms.
Loitering, Obstructing, Criminal Trespass. He was there as an invited guest, so he wasn't loitering. He wasn't told to leave, or given the opportunity to leave, so he wasn't criminally trespassing. As for Obstructing, according to the cops, if you don't immediately admit to the crime they're accusing you of, you're obstructing.
@@beautifulyou2 Seems like they straight up ignored that the Boss stood up for him and said he was staying there, and that He had gone to the gas station next door.
Yeah I noticed that they ignored the man’s Boss. Then didn’t even look at camera footages. I wouldn’t answer any questions either. I’d ask for a supervisor right when that lady cop started yelling. The lady cop hadn’t gotten a complete identity from the guy first. None of them did. They did all of that after placing him in the patrol car. He should sue Hylton and the police station.
@@luciddream2033dummy, it's the fact that they say him not giving his ID is the fabrication so they can arrest him for not giving it.. How are you this ignorant
@terrenceodonnell6347 in some states, refusing to identify is a crime if you are detained. Now the question is, was the detention lawful. According to the courts, it most likely was. He matched the description of the suspect, was in the vicinity, and was pointed out by someone as the person. There is ample court precedent that would give them reasonable suspicion to detain him. During that detention, refusing to identify is a crime in some places. If you want to assert your rights, you need to learn the law.
Seeing a member of the public’s ID to link to a crime must be some kind of cop super power……that the rest of us mere citizens don’t possess. The same with that other clown demanding his date of birth and threatening jail. What tyrants threatening, harassing and intimidating the public in this way
I was stopped in my car by 4 police in their cars, with their guns drawn. Luckily, a bystander was screaming, "That's not the car." "It was green, he went there!" they looked at my blue car, got back in their vehicles & said, "Stay right there, mother-fu*ker!" and continued their pursuit. I, left.
We arrested people 100 years ago without video. Yes ma’am that’s why we DO have video now is to prove things actually happened. 😂 what do you think the point of recording things is??? That camera isn’t rolling and recording for no reason. That’s the whole point of having the system. Ffs. 🤦🏻♂️
@@RabbiJesus When you "Assume" it makes an ass out U & me. Hundreds of videos (like this) showing police misconduct & unlawful arrests available on auditor channels should be sufficient proof that Police in the United States are not properly trained or educated on law & Constitutional rights.
how stupid were these cops?????? He was not guilty, he was eating an icecream as he said, he was not the person they were looking for. There is no stop an ID state.
well yes, when you are stopped for fitting the description of a suspect, if you are polite and reasonable and are able to dispel a cops suspicion they will generally let you go. but trying to hide your identity when you are legally required to ID and acting generally combative kinda increases the cops suspicion actually.
Seeing a member of the public’s ID to link to a crime must be some kind of cop super power that the rest of us mere citizens don’t possess. The same with that other clown demanding his date of birth and threatening jail. What tyrants threatening, harassing and intimidating the public in this way
@@stanswaby The cops must have known the date of birth of the person pulling on the car door handles. They needed to verify that the dude was born on a different day so they could let him go. ^^^Sarcasm Alert
Oh, it wasn't just that, didn't you hear the cop. She has damning evidence He said :I did not do it" instead of "I didn't do it" and she was told that means he definitely did and he's guilty 😂😢😂😢😢😢 WTF how is this our system in 2024 😢
@lizf1353 but but but, she learned some bs pseudo-psychology from work 😒🥺 she just cannnnnt be wrong! Think of how hurt her feelings will be when she finds out she's a fcking moron!
@@librab103thank you. I hate that every time a cop does something wrong everybody screams they should get an F. There are ludicrous situations where cops are violent for no good reason or have caused permanent long life injuries to innocent people and and in those situations they 100% deserve an F.
@dobbsy22 They deserve an F because it was a piss poor "investigation." Never once accessed hotel video to confirm anything. Then the female cop yelling because she couldn't get her ID crack. Unprofessional. It's an F.
@librab103 Read what u just said again. What a bunch of bullshit. Only excessive force makes it an F???? Are you fucking insane??? That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard.. And thats part of the problem. Only excessive force but the severity of piss poor decisions, poor professionalism, uneducated if the laws they swore to uphold... So a cop could do everything wrong but not beat the shit outta you and thats not an F??? Fuck outta here...
They are taking a third party claim at face value. The desk clerk claims that someone ELSE claims he is the guy. They need to talk to the WITNESS - not to someone who claims to have talked to the witness.
I would’ve told the front desk attendant that she should think about what she was about to do. Kicking someone out for doing nothing will open her employer up to a lawsuit.
One should never say that to a witness because that would get an added charge of Witness Intimidation. "Witness intimidation is the act of trying to prevent or alter a witness's testimony or report to law enforcement. It can also include retaliating against a witness for their testimony or report." "Witness intimidation is a crime under both federal and state laws."
@ that’s not witness intimidation. You should look up what intimidation means and what constitutes intimidation. I see you get intimidated easily even when people aren’t intimidating. People really need to start learning the meanings of words.
How can you be so sure it wasn't him that did it? Buying ice cream means you're not guilty? Having a key card and a room is 100% proof too? Note that not all video of ATA is about arresting criminals. In the end, we will never know, I bet there will never be any updates on this case.
Saw an old video today from a few years ago. Cop was grilling a man (who was helping his friend move) about his prior arrests. They try to show that you're a convicted felon in order to strengthen their probable cause in court. Judges lap that stuff up.
Police always feel like they doing the right thing. I can hear in the female cops voice how she things this is a win. Makes me second guess all previous arrest. Acting suspicious is not a crime. Citizen are not allowed to help you with your investigation. These police should know these by now. They make me sick
It's based on legal standing. C- is the lowest you can get without violating rights and breaking laws. The officers did have reasonable suspicion, they even had an eye witness claim that was the right guy, so they had every right to get his ID. However they were hostile, rude, and even once realized it was the wrong guy continued to make the situation worse.
@@faytleingod1851 I still can’t understand how audit the audit can say the cops had the right to get ID when they had zero evidence except hearsay about a third party who had left and a ‘witness’ who wasn’t allowed to go to the car to confirm the identity of the arrested man and who said the actual person wore a hoodie and pants (not shorts)
@NearlyFullyFree this channel is more of an informative of the law than a personal reaction channel. It's very clear they had reasonable suspicion, and probable cause. Regardless of if it was the correct suspect, or personal feelings that's how the law would see it.
Seeing a member of the public’s ID to link to a crime must be some kind of cop super power that the rest of us mere citizens don’t possess. The same with that other clown demanding his date of birth and threatening jail. What tyrants threatening, harassing and intimidating the public in this way
@@roytaylor6519 yeah i know that but they never say that, and it's mostly just looking for warrants because regardless of my past they'd better treat me as though the bill of rights existed !
Right?! "Oh, now that we are violating someone, I guess that we might actually have to DO OUR JOBS!" To Hell with all of three bastards. Especially the female. Her attitude is complete feces.
And what’s this BS of guilt decided by using a contraction or not… looks like the department is run on urban legend and “Ya’ll know what my grandma say”,
Every cop in this video and the hotel attendant infuriate me. Even trespassing the guy. Instead of actually investigating, somehow only the ID will prove what he did. Remind me to never go buy some ice cream at this town and walk.
@@PANDAXD001 You are truly a dumb person. People who are incompetent and a danger to those who they do business with should be cancelled.pedos like yourself shouldn't be working in schools no matter how much you want it.
@@PANDAXD001he’s right, the woman trespassed him on behalf of the hotel, did she get instant permission from up high to trespass?? And she also said there is NO video which with it being Hilton I’m sure is untrue, but the female cop already had him tried and convicted as she claimed that even if he saw the video he would claim it wasn’t him. Facts!! 1. Accuser said that the guy removed his hoodie 2. Guy removed his hoodie WAY afterwards while talking to tyrants 3. 2nd witness confirms it WASN’T the guy as he was walking back from gas station 4. The hotel woman claimed the guy wasn’t a guest there and didn’t belong there 5. His boss confirmed he WAS a guest there and did belong there 6. Witness claims guy was wearing pants 7. Guy was actually wearing…. SHORTS accuser is far from being a credible witness, video should’ve been obtained even though there isn’t a requirement, simple common sense should’ve prevailed (I know that’s asking a lot of these tyrants) fact of the matter is that this was NOT the guy they were looking for, Hilton should be sued for unfair treatment of a guest as well as unfair trespass accusation, the city and the PD should be sued for wrongful arrest. The female officer should be fired The young black cop just needs a little retraining especially around John and Jane Doe 😂😂 The other male cop needs to be shown the door with the female officer I would also suggest maybe getting his eyes tested. The female hotel employee should be at least disciplined and at most fired, because rather than let the cops investigate she pushed the narrative that he WAS with absolute certainty the guy they were looking for despite admitting that she only had the accusers vague description at the time.
Seeing a member of the public’s ID to link to a crime must be some kind of cop super power that the rest of us mere citizens don’t possess. The same with that other clown demanding his date of birth and threatening jail. What tyrants threatening, harassing and intimidating the public in this way
So basically, being suspected of a crime is a crime itself, meaning these officers think they can put anyone in cuffs without any sort of proof that they committed that crime.
Everyone involved in this stop should be named in the lawsuit: the officers, the hotel clerk, and the old man who incorrectly identified him. No due diligence was taken to investigate. This could have been solved with CCTV within 5 minutes.
@ he said “yeah that looks like him” but said he had a hoodie on. If he had a hoodie on how the hell can he identify him just by looking at his side profile sitting in a car? The man who identified him is an idiot and deserves to be named in the lawsuit as well.
"How can he be so sure we don't have video of him trying to open car doors?" Well considering it wasn't an exact match of the description maybe it was someone else...
@@natelevy1040 The clerk told the cops they have none facing the parking lot at 19:20. The cops can't prove a crime was even committed. Just one witness that said he kinda looks like the guy.
The Hotel Trespassed an innocent man from their hotel????? For what reason???? That front desk “clerk “ should be fired !!! I hope everyone makes a complaint!!! I am!
He travels with work... probably a Hilton honors member. The clerk will be fired.. The manager is in trouble if it's a corporate hotel, and the owner, if it's a franchise. I'm not in the hotel business directly, but I've spent years staying in hotels over 300 days a year and, due to extended stays, know multiple managers as well as owners. I know corporate takes bs like this seriously.
So let me get this straight - The guy proved AND his boss confirmed he was staying at the hotel so had a legit reason for being there - The guy said AND his boss confirmed that he had just gotten out of his boss's van in the car park, giving him a legit reason for being in the car park Investigation done - he's given them enough information to dispel suspicion. Plus they had no eyewitness of him actually pulling on door handles. You had hearsay information from a 3rd party. I really hope he sues both the police and the Hilton (because their employee aggravated the situation by saying he was the person pulling on door handles despite never actually seeing it)
I just wanna make sure I understand this correctly. A person who was staying at a hotel was trespassed from the very hotel they just gave money to. And said person was also arrested for failing to ID when he wasn't legally required to identify himself. All because someone saw him "walking between cars" and mentioned it to a hotel worker who escalated it to the cops and, somehow it ended up like a game of 'Telephone' and came out the other end as him "walking through the cars flipping handles". This is completely F'd up, right? I'm not THAT high, am I?
Am I the only one that listened to the parts where he said multiple times that based on the laws of the area he WAS required to identify himself? A lot of states have laws that require you to identify yourself if you have been believed to be involved in a crime, if that wasn't a thing actual criminals when asked if they did something wrong would just be like "Nah that wasn't me, trust me bro" 😂 Now does that mean he should have been arrested? I don't know, I don't think so? but my opinion doesn't really matter unless I am the judge or on the jury.
@@itsmehere1 They can detain him for the investigation but they have no reason or purpose of IDing him. It's all about "investigating". How does knowing his birthday help the investigation? How does getting his first and last name determine if he was doing what he was accused of? Are you seriously not worried that "a guy walked between some cars" got flipped into "a guy is going around flipping handles of cars trying to get in"? Those are from the same person except that "walking between cars" got changed to the very altered, very different "walking around trying to get into other people's cars". And now the guy is expected to surrender his information...along with the cops ridiculing him for trying to enforce his 4th amendment right? I guess I'm dumb and don't understand law at all. 😕
@The_Pariah Did you watch the video? Like at all?... He mentions MULTIPLE times how the laws of the area REQUIRE possible suspects to identify themselves if they are believed to be involved in a crime, so yes, they do in fact have a reason or purpose of IDing him, they have the legal right to order him to identify himself and have the right to arrest him if he refuses, as mentioned multiple times in the video. And at no point in the video did they violate his 4th amendment right, the 4th amendment protects you against "unreasonable" searches and seizures, and because he fitted the description, in the place, and at the time of a reported crime it definitely would be reasonable to believe that he could be involved in it and could be temporarily detained, and as per law that he is required to identify himself if detained in relation to a crime, when he refused to identify himself, he broke said law. Did they need to actually arrest him for it? No, to me it seemed these officers (especially the lady) were upset about something or just pain power hungry that day and felt the need to be super pedantic about the law on that night when they could have just let him off with a warning or a scolding, but on the other foot all he had to do was identify himself when legally required to do so, both parties in this situation were wrong and both were acting like children when doing so.
Nah way off base be th coppers seem you get arrest in the USA for nothing no witness no film zip except a he said she said I doubt if it even got to court. Any legal eagle who ran an eye over this would see there is no probably cause in the first place. As for ID though a plate of reflecting glass at a distance pppprrrh not for a jury . Hay check with DA ask if all charges got dropped. May be that's why you can't find it out come.😊
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The cops get a C-? All the little snide remarks and hate for the man. Then soliciting a trespass against him and lying about how his ID is necessary for an investigation even tho they are still charging him with loitering and prowling which tells me they would have no matter what. You love these “emotion police” who charge people for their attitude.
@@rustyshackelford7118F-
Why do you not make it clear that you do not ever have to help investigate yourself when being accused of a crime.
Period.
And if you ate suspected of a crime and detained then you have a right to remain silent.
Either way, it's it's violation of human rights to demand identity.
how is that a c- for the cops? huh? behaving like false cops. arrest based on false accusations and screaming and #->[. when they deserve imprisonment themselves for kidnaping a wrong person AND wasting time instead of catching and searching for the real culprit. they deserved f(or lower if possible) AND jail too. (for weaponized incompetence too). why is id so important to that specific investigation? what does it matter?
The female cop yelling doesn’t need a badge. You’re frustrated because someone doesn’t want their rights violated makes you an extreme liability
Screeching like that does not give her any authority it makes her sound like she's not in control of anything.
She should be fired she doesn’t know how to talk to people
Kind of what I just was say
Of course the men all want the female fired cause she needs to stay in her place and let the guy keep talking over her.
@mysticwindfairy
Fairy your tail. Furry. Whatever. Certainly patriarchy is at play here. Gosh darn commenter's!
It can't possibly be the female officer was acting like part of the patriarchy. NO not at all. Female in charge? I bet you don't even know what "matriarch" means.
Literally _no one said it was him._ He's just a guy y'all stopped because he's the 1st one y'all came across, but no one said it was him.
But a witness said it wasn't him
Lies, there was a witness that said it was him.
@@kingleo8422 there was a witness who said it was him but he looked different... might want to stretch before you reach that far..
But it's so much easier to arrest an innocent man than actually find the real culprit. Lazy cops!
@@kingleo8422You can be on the police force, too. You qualify!
When the cops say that if a person would have simply given up their ID they would have been free to go, they are admitting that they have no legitimate reason for an arrest.
And like usual, how would the ID help LEOs determine if he was the one trying to open cars up or not? Did they have the name of the actual person that was trying to open up cars?
Nazis demanding papers 🇺🇸🤡
Well that’s America for you, Land of the free and home of the brave !
@@CancunMannySee its a very particular procedure. They take your star sign, check the cosmo magazine to see what it says then arrest based on that.
@@folssee It's to see if you have warrants so they can bypass actually trying to investigate something and just seize you.
That female cop is an embarrassment to law enforcement and humanity. Utterly despicable abuse of her authority.
All chic cops r embarrassment
What " authority"???? They have none over you until you break the law....
They always are. 99.9%
If I’m on a jury, the arresting officer is automatically presumed by me, to be a liar. And they aren’t the most intelligent group of people in any situation.
Definitely 😂
There’s no situation that a bad or improperly trained law enforcement officers can’t make worse. Detain, instigate, violate, escalate and incarcerate.
Well it's a female, what did you expect.
That's a lotta ates😂
You mean all police, then.
They are trained to be that way
@@shable1436they forgot terminate
Female Cop: “Now you’re obstructing our justice!’
This line shows you she thinks she’s above the citizens she’s supposed to serve.
She is so pleased with herself with her retelling of the story.
Dishwashers with badges
@@TheYokeOfFaith 😂😂😂😂
and about 4 seconds later: Bad-Dude-Cop says The THING: "You refused to COMPLY several times." 11:00
She Can't Understand Normal Thinking
1. Abolish qualified immunity ASAP,
2. Abolish civil asset forfeiture ASAP,
3. Make it illegal for a cop to mute or turn off a cop body camera,
4. Make it cheap, easy and fast for a citizen to obtain any and all records - not redacted when possible.
5. Make all internal investigations subject to independent civilian oversight.
6. Fast track civil rights lawsuits into months instead of years.
7. Do not let a cop simply “retire” only to move to a different department.
Perfectly said, sir
3. Make it IMPOSSIBLE for a cop to mute or turn off a cop body camera.
There, I fixed it for you.
8. Don't allow them to click pens near the camera.
@@iDrawWithPencils i was losing my shit lol
@@iDrawWithPencils hahaha !!
Indeed.
I love how the female cop said "now we're going to do a full investigation" Well why don't you do that BEFORE you arrest someone? 🙄
They have no clue how to investigate. If they did it would save a lot of innocent citizens. But then why would they do their job correctly. So damn sad.
Because he’s defensive of the fact that he’s innocent that tells the female cop that he’s guilty. Incredible! She needs to be handcuffed and arrested for kidnapping.
It's probably more common than you think too. Cops will use nervousness as a reason to suspect a crime, even tho like 90% of people get anxious when interacting with an officer 😂 she comes off as a bully
Exactly lol. Like if I know I didn’t do nothing n you keep telling me I did I’d be defensive too. I’m not ID ing bc I didn’t do anything and I don’t have to.
Apparently, exercising your rights as a citizen makes you suspicious?
@@cheyespejo1112💯 until innocent citizens STAND for those in masses.
The thing that always gets me is that the cops could easily tell if he was their guy or not by asking the hotel to show them video, but they never ever ever want to actually find evidence and figure it out conclusively. All they want is ID.
2:38 if the cop can’t see that doubletree is a brand of Hilton, I can already tell this is going to go south, very fast
They can literally see it says Hilton in the video when they walk in the lobby. its like 4 seconds later.
And even if they weren’t sure, all they had to do was ask the desk what their room keys looked like and doubts would be erased or confirmed.
Theyre very good at investigation 😂😭💯
These cops have an iq below room temperature. 😂
Then the other cop doesn't even discern that an unidentified male gets booked into jail as "John Doe" not "Jane".
“You’re obstructing OUR justice.” This is beyond insane
As they violate his rights.
It’s not her justice! Making assumption on this man rotten cops
That certainly didn't come out right at all
The thing is who he is is the LAST thing they need not the first!
A crime had been committed and his name is not what they need to solve the crime.
@@marvinchurch8235That's exactly what they intended to say and precisely what they meant to say when they said it.
It's not that it didn't 'come out right' it is that the person that said it is completely and utterly corrupted by their own ego and self perceived senses of authority, power, superiority, entitlement, privilege and overall confidence in their belief in that they are just simply smarter and morally greater than anyone who doesn't wear a badge that was issued by the particular police department that they themselves work for.
Hopefully the girl cop has been promoted to detective with amazing skills like "if you don't use a contraction, you're guilty."
Every cop, "You got some ID...I just need a little ID...Let me have your ID...I'm jonesing for some ID..."
Do cops get bonuses for running IDs? Lazy policing at its worst.
Nah the ID is like coke to them, they need that ID fix.
It’s part of their intelligence gathering scheme. It’s why they get so upset when you refuse to ID because they can link you to something now or in the future and retaliate against you in numerous ways.
If they can run someone's ID and find that they got a warrant or something, it makes their job a heck of a lot easier and they can just drop all investigation and arrest the guy there, then throw whatever charges they want in, hoping that just because the person was wanted that will automatically convict them of any other charges. Then they can go back to watching netflix on their phones at a gas station.
I got turned down by the academy because I’ve moved around four different states and had to get a new ID a bunch of times. I seriously thought I was gonna get arrested during the initial screening… but I’m really glad it happened because it pushed me to pick a different career.
I got turned down by the academy because I’ve moved around four different states and had to get a new ID a bunch of times. I seriously thought I was gonna get arrested during the initial screening… but I’m really glad it happened because it pushed me to pick a different career.
The hotel clerk should be fired for lying, which led to this guy getting arrested. And her smugness when she was trespassing him was even worse.
Absolutely, as well as the officers who solicited the trespass.
It wasn't the clear though. She was just the middleman. Hotel guest was the one who did this. And the bum officers
Hilton/Double Tree better start freeing up some cash for what’s coming.
@eneresolong what were her grounds for trespassing? Why was his employer not recognized & respected when he said, " he's not the guy?" His employer was the only reliable witness there.
I would sue Hilton if I were the victim of this...the dude, just put a hard days work in laying tile, grabbed an ice cream that was in his hand (evidence) from the gas station.... did anyone swing by gas station and see their cameras? Check the time stamp of his purchase and the time stamp of 911 call? No, none of that. I dont agree with the c- at all...... F
The casual walk around cops eating ice cream screams innocent..... why do you think Biden eats so much ice cream? It's a politicians trick to look innocent like this dude. Smh
@Donetravlin k i now know there is no point in continuing this. Have fun in the clan bubba
if he gives his name and date of birth that does absolutely NOTHING to FURTHER their "investigation, so HOW can it be hindering ?
Yeah, would like to hear their argument what would that ID prove in this encounter.
Police want to run your name hoping you have warrants. Lots of videos of officers saying if you have no warrants you can go.
@@accik
(Assuming the cops are *actually* investigating and aren't just warrant fishing)
Contact information is used to confirm things like Alibis and to prove innocence (or guilt). If the police find out that a credit card with your name for example was at a gas station during the time that the crime happened elsewhere, then giving your information to the police proves you innocent.
Conversely, if they were investigating a crime that happened at the gas station, then your ID just made things worse. If you actually committed the crime and you believe that your name would be incriminating, I suppose you could tell the police to arrest you and plead the 5th. They can find out who you are anyways in this scenario by doing things like facial recognition at the jail.
Once they get their ID fix, they hope it will show the victim has a warrant. They can then use all their toys because "resisting arrest" and their night is complete. Rinse, repeat when they need their next fix.
They want everyone to be checked for warrants and to have you in the system.
meanwhile the homeless guy is probably in another parking lot down the street opening up cars, lol lmao
Of course. They wold rather harass innocent people than go and do their job. And of course they need 3 or more officers too.
LoL, for reeeeeeal
looking @ all the cop cars zoom past wondering “damn who’s that for?” 😂
Yeah, or he was in hiding in the shadows rubbing his hands together with a big grin on his face, lmao
No kidding
He was a guest. He did belong there! Sue them. Also, the witness who identified him from a distance through a window while he was handcuffed in the back seat of a cop car, said he was wearing pants. The guy in the back of the cop car was wearing shorts. And then they went and solicited a trespass. Sue the crap out of them!
Yes, the witness saying the suspect was wearing pants just blew it for the officers reasons for arrest and their credibility - you could see the male officer looking unhappy.
Nothing as unreliable as an eye witness, ask John Demjanjuk.
That witness was drunk as fuck. Listen to the way he slurs his speech.
🎯🎯🎯
SUE THE COPS AND THE HOTEL. THEY LIED.
hearing "that's a Hilton card, this is a Double Tree" is enough to tell us these officers are clueless
not knowing which corporate behemoth owns which hotel brand does not render a person 'clueless'. Thinking that this is the only information required to make such a judgement might be.
When it says double tree by Hilton on the front doors 10 feet away, it's a pretty bad start into their investigation
@@selseyonetwenty4631he did explain it to him
@@selseyonetwenty4631 Have you ever seen a Hilton Hotel? They make it pretty obvious that they own "Double Tree" when their name Is literally plastered on it.
@@selseyonetwenty4631do you live in your mother's basement. There are literally hundreds of double tree by Hilton hotels. All 4 star of not 5 star + there is a big name sign in front of him
All he had to do was OBEY your unlawful unconstitutional request
They don't care if he did it; they just care that he comply and gives up his ID
They care about arresting someone for anything with the least amount of effort. You're getting arrested because you interrupted them from doing nothing. That is a crime because four cops had to put forth the effort to show up.
Fucking authoritarians. Order following tyrants. They are not to be trusted because they don't serve or protect anything but the state and corporations.
@@timkinley1779they arrest blacks all the time like this.
True @@kingleo8422
So how do we in America have the most freedom in the world?
One drunk witness, through two panes of glass. What an investigation
He seemed so incredibly confused the whole time they asked him questions. Very confident when they showed him in the paddy wagon though: amazing.
He was also approximately 25 feet away. A-m-a-z-i-n-g.
That’s the problem too lazy to find the facts, when their suspose to check all tapes and listen to all evidence,, just soo lazy!
That would be tinted panes of glass.
@gibblespascack1418 good point. Lord forbid they walk him up to the man in cuffs, surrounded by badges and guns. His safety is at risk. What gutter trash. 🗑️
"if you would have just given us your information we could have been gone, but now were going to do a full investigation" That officer should be fired
Exactly. I also caught the "full investigation" line, as if she routinely typically does half-assed investigations in general.
what bullshit. a full investigation? so does that mean there are levels of investigating for cops? what utter bullshit!!
Um, no, they should do a full investigation if they arrest a person. Gotta figure out where the cops went wrong, so they can do better next time.
And imprisoned.
Also.. what lunatics hired these abusers? What dunces "trained" these abusers? What "supervisors " "supervised" these abusers?
AND the clerks at this HILTON are acting like the queens of bad white people....
There is that video of a law student in a dorm who refuses to show ID until the officers demand Id under threat of arrest. At that point he would show ID and would have a legal basis to sue them. I think thats a good thing for every American to learn, push to the point of threat of arrest and the surrender Id, later sue. Instead of repeating your rights but ending up in jail.
"I didn't do it." means you did it. "I did it." means you did it. "I don't answer questions." means you did it and you're obstructing the investigation. What kind of logic is that?
Cop logic... except for "one of their own".
It's the pigs. They don't have to even have the most minimal amount of evidence if they don't like the cut of your jib.
Pignorance of law is no excuse.
😂😂😂
So true
I was pulled over a few mornings ago on my way home from work, and the cop started asking me where I was heading, where I was coming from, etc. When I told him that I don't answer questions, you'd have thought I just slapped him by the look on his face. 😂 He asked me why not, and I said that I'm not obligated to. He looked so confused. 😂 He walked back to his car, came back less than 2 minutes later, and let me go without even a warning. 🤣 Sometimes, standing on our rights works, even if it's only because the police don't know how to handle it. 🤣
“Even if every person here tells us you’re not the guy you’re still going to jail” perfectly shows how much they actually care about “justice”. All they care about is punishing people who bruised their egos.
And making quotas, and getting their jollies abusing people.
Speaking of abuse, have you ever looked into the studies about law enforcement personnel and perpetration of domestic violence?
They don't want to investigate. Ten people tell them that's not the guy! Meanwhile the actual perp is still breaking into cars right under their goddamn noses! unbelievable, completely ignore the actual call and get obsessed with identifying this guy.
Who knew standing on our rights could be so upsetting and instigating. They might appreciate and know our rights if they needed them. They get qualified immunity so ….
But they are protecting their clients from possible car handle jiggling.
@AuditTheAudit This is absolutely one we need updates on as they come out!!!!
lol. The mentally slow guy with the ice cream WAS trying to open several car doors .
@blackjack67576 judging by the comments you've left on other ATA videos, you're not the one to call others slow
Ya the lack of info is annoying. Looks like he spent a few days in jail too. And why wouldn't a hotel have cameras pointing at the parking lot??
100%
@@blackjack67576 ugh you AGAIN. Bob please wipe your chin. Evidence of your copsIurping is dribbling from it.
If it turns out that this man is innocent. He should sue the s*** out of DoubleTree and the police department.. I do not believe the witness knows for a fact that it was him.
“If I’m not doing something here’s my id”. Umm no woman. People don’t like to have their rights violated just because they “aren’t doing anything”
That is a popular misconception by the police
The reason they're cops is there inherent lack of a sense of freedom.
Also if you say you "did not" do something it means you did it. If you say you "didn't" do something you're telling the "truth" what the hell kind of evidence of a crime is that?
So, if u give your ID , would it proof that is not you or it is you!confuse!!
I’d bet that female “officer” is always reluctant about giving her name & badge number. Plus an ID has your home address.
So looking at an ID when someone is suspicious looking will tell you if they committed the crime or not? So freaking stupid.
But it gives them an additional chance on finding "something". In their view.
Lol!! Exactly... what would change if he gives ID?? Then all of a sudden they'd know he didn't pull on door handles.
I mean it's fishing but it could give you things . That's the issue though you can't just check in case you would find something or they'd be doing that to everyone for anything just to see. That's a police state.
They are just looking for warrants so they can still get an arrest either way
It’s either “we’re looking for warrants or we send you to jail to give you charges”.
Why is the cop literally right in the guys face? Once he showed the hotel key and showed he belonged there, that’s the end of it!
Well I mean he could have stolen it or found it to be fair.
@ so everyone is just guilty then. Even when his boss confirms he belongs there.
@ I didn’t say that but just showing the hotel key shouldn’t have ended it right there because that doesn’t prove he wasn’t pulling on car doors.
@@jonnysalami692 but somehow, having his ID proves that he did? Do you even hear how ridiculous you sound?
@ when did I saw anything about them demanding ID? Do you not hear how ridiculous you sound? All I said was him having a hotel key wasn’t enough to prove he wasn’t trying to open car doors. You guys really need some reading comprehension skills.
These idiots are terrifying. Working this hard to arrest the wrong guy, knowing the real door checker is still out there
Not supporting a police investigation is NOT Obstruction
THIS IS A LAWSUIT
Female officer is more interested in telling the gossip to everyone rather than figure this out.
Yep. And not saying he was here with his boss.
Thanks for saving me the effort of writing the same ,
Yes, no data protection there with her, - saying the guys name and claiming he did and said this and that and patronising him to everyone in earshot
(Giant sign that says Doubletree by Hilton Hotels)
Cop: “this is for a Hilton hotel.”
SMH FACEPALM
And somehow the investigation was impeded
My exact reaction to his stupidity 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
Exactly but they're not going to admit their mistake.
He'll be their lead detective in under a year.
DON'T YOU DARE ARGUE WITH A COP! EVAH! 👮🤡
I work for a company that almost exclusively operates abroad; we have people all over the world, staying in hotels, months at a time. We spend millions on hotels every year. I've personally worked in 18 countries. Good to know how Hilton treats their guests.
Good to know you think a hotel should ignore a guest trying to open doors of cars in the parking lot.
It wasnt him lmao @robv5834
@@robv5834but DID a guest do that???
@ you can’t answer that either. But would you want the hotel to ignore it is the question? Guest or not.
@@robv5834 well if the opposite of ignoring it is calling police who think that not speaking to them is obstruction of "justice", then yes I'm for them ignoring it. The hotel has no proof and the police don't know how to investigate. They act like the man's ID will magically say whether or not he was trying to open car doors. 🤣🤣🤣
We all need to revolt against this crap.
Not a single cop goes to the convenience store where the man was buying a popsicle.
Now, I know how to cause complete chaos at a hotel. All I need to do is say that I saw some guy flipping car handles in the parking lot and then go to my room and watch the chaos unfold.
LMAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Soooo this is funny because I saw this same scenario actually happen from my second story window: two cars w/e they might have cars parked to each other or something.. third car alright this is bad as mine was the 10th car away. Called and watched the fuzz pull up by the 8th car which was surprisingly fast and boy did drama escalate beyond anything thought possible. Turns out he was an off duty something or other and was drunk as skunk and admitted to trying to get into cars to find clothing (it was in the low 20's F with snow on the ground and he was in shorts and flipflops) then a woman drives in and taps a squad car claiming she was looking for him. Both booked and stuffed. Then the officers come knocking on every door of second floor probably looking for us who called it in. It was 1am when first called!
i call and report this at random places all across over trying to bankrupt small towns
No one listened to his Boss. No one cheeked his room key. They could have gone to the room and asked him to identify belongings. No effort except he would not bow down, so he must be guilty.
Lol
How can a cop say, so we bust him for trespassing? They never asked him to leave!
“So now were going to do a full investigation”
WHY DIDNT YOU START WITH THAT…
EXACTLY. ⚜️ BEST COMMENT ⚜️
😂😂😂 They’re so backwards
their lazy
These cops are dangerously ignorant. They insisted Doubletree has no affiliation with Hilton, when it’s literally on the sign. If these cops don’t admit they committed crimes here that’s just evidence of their guilt-isn’t that how their logic works?
They don't even have an actual complainant here! They have a lady saying that some guy who isn't there anymore said that some white dude in a black hoodie was pulling on door handles. Gimme a break! And I'm so sick of hearing, "If you'd just done what we asked, you wouldn't be arrested." It's like saying, "If you'd just given me your money, I wouldn't have robbed you."
Sociopaths and abusers always want compliance. While they are beating you they say if you would do what I say I would not abuse you.
The man was eating ice cream, so he was checking car doors took a break went to a store for the ice cream then returned to finish his crime spree after his snack. SMDH!
Don't forget he changed his shirt also
That is very possible! He is staying there. He could have checked cars then went to the store.
Yeah, I guess he was looking for ice cream money in cars?
@@noelwright8740 perhaps he found some spare change in one of the cars and used it to buy some ice cream and then returned to look for more change because the ice cream is so delicious.
Im sure an acorn probably fell down nearby, as well. Making him extremely guilty of the most heinous crime known to man.
Dumbest encounter ever..
1. Boss said he belongs here
2. He has a room key
3. A different person said it was him he just came from corner store and said it was a homeless man that was the one doing it
Boom suspicion is now accounted for and he’s good to go
*wasn’t him
First two points doesn't prove he wasn't the one checking cars. Thieves stay at hotels too!
@@seeya205 so let’s just arrest everyone we see. Even tho we don’t know who did it and nothing was actually stolen. Do you understand how naive you sound?
Seeing a member of the public’s ID to link to a crime must be some kind of cop super power that the rest of us mere citizens don’t possess. The same with that other clown demanding his date of birth and threatening jail. What tyrants threatening, harassing and intimidating the public in this way
They are ALL a joke. There are VERY few actual good cops. VERY few. Most all are little power hungry, ignorant FOOLS.
“We just need to verify you belong here. I know we just talked to your boss but we need your date of birth”. That makes no sense.
16:08 - So. In stead of finding the person who was allegedly trying to open car doors, ALL of these cops are All Focusing their attention on the person who is exercising his 4th amendment. What? Seriously?
It’s easier to get an innocent man with an ice cream than a criminal. Cops here are scared so they grab the wrong guy because it’s easier. Cowardice in the field. The receptionist wimped out she should have said it wasn’t him. Cops here have never caught a criminal in their lives they just do bits of nothing.
They don’t care. They just need SOMEONE to arrest. You can tell they were ready to arrest the guy as soon as they saw him.
It's like they malfunction once they hear the word no. They don't know how to handle someone saying no to them. Retaliating against the person who said no supercedes anything they were called out for.
@@chriscald9426because they're so used to people just bending over willingly. I can't be mad at people doing it, because I understand their fear of potentially being economically terrorized and put in a cage.
Right! The real criminal is out there pulling on door handles *_AS WE SPEAK_* while the keystone kops are getting their filthy jollies by harassing an out-of-state worker. Real classy!
That female cop is INSANE - because he defended himself and said "I'm not doing anything..." she "knows" he is guilty??!?!?!? So what is someone supposed to say who did nothing??? "I did it"?????
She said that "did not" = lying denial while "didn't" = truthful denial.
Still insane.
@@LizardDude Lol yes she thinks speaking English = Liar but speaking slang = truthful ... insane
It's a catch 22.. I was also persecuted & the made the claim that bc I stood by my innocence that meant I was guilty ..
@@simplysavvylife sorry to hear that man
"How does he think people went to jail a hundred years ago?" Ya, many innocent people went to jail before the use of cameras.
I couldn’t believe she said that. She’s stupid
Most people didn't have drivers licences, either.
A hundred years ago people didn’t carry state-issues ID, so how did cops “investigate”?
@TrekBeatTK Actually, they did! Drivers licenses started in 1903 in Massachusetts and Missouri.
@seeya205 aaaand...how many people in 1903 owned a car? 🙄
using your constitutional rights is "acting guilty." He said "I did not do something," means he is guilty. - LEO
"Sir this is not a Hilton its a Double tree" these cops are showing a new level of clueless
😂😂😂😂😂😂
As soon as Mr. English's boss confirmed his identity, all suspicion was dispelled. The encounter should have ended there.
Even the fact that he had a room key and they totally ignored it after they said oh this is not a Hilton and one more thing he has big white letters down the sleeve of his hoodie and I never once heard the people say that and never heard the police ask
@@jeremyhodges7956 because they knew the arrested the wrong guy. They just don’t care whose lives they ruin. It’s disgusting. We the people should be ashamed of ourselves for allowing our LE to become this tyrannical. It’s APPALLING!!!!
If ai was him, I would have quit on the spot and told that boss to go fuck himself. Who are you to allow law enforcement to illegally identify someone?
His boss fucked up and violated his rights, by surrendering his name.
Contempt of cop, they mad he didnt bow down to thier will.
STOP THAT MAN!!! HE HAS THE ONLY BLACK HOODIE TO EVER EXIST
They are very rare indeed 😂
For real. This is incompetence on a grand level.
So instead of actually doing an investigation they waste time and bark up the wrong tree for what? Ego?
The shrill lady cop actually said she thinks its him because he wouldn't surrender his 4th amendment right. Im so tired of these cops.
Edit: WOW she actually claims that if you say "i didn't do" it means you didn't do it but if you day "i did not do" it means you did it? What amazing police work.
I hope you sue the frickin crap out of them!!!!!
Makes it worse she admits it was in her training 😮😮
She should make detective with no problem.
it is not a 4th amendment violation to be required to id yourself when you are suspected of a crime.
@@TheDragorin I didn't say it was a violation, I'm referring to when the shrill female cop said that not showing your id means you're guilty because if you didn't do anything wrong you would show it. Please try to keep up.
I'd sue not only the town, but the Hilton chain as well.
Why didn't their security/hotel dick check the cameras?
Intellectual laziness.
@ Absolutely.
Why would a possible suspect try to break into cars THEN go to a gas station, buy an ice cream and then come back to the EXACT location to eat it?
To gloat?
These aren't law enforcement officers.
They're mall cops given firearms.
No f****ing suing the town!!!! Suing the cops on their personal capacity! Go after their jobs and their money!!
@@beaupierrebondurant5651just plain old fashioned laziness, really.
Maybe so you can say " It wasn't me...I'm just eating my ice cream."
Loitering, Obstructing, Criminal Trespass. He was there as an invited guest, so he wasn't loitering. He wasn't told to leave, or given the opportunity to leave, so he wasn't criminally trespassing. As for Obstructing, according to the cops, if you don't immediately admit to the crime they're accusing you of, you're obstructing.
His boss should have asked for a refund immediately and then contacted corporate
Then the cop goes and solicits a trespass 😮
Yep. "Obstruction" is a charge cops abuse 99% of the time. Same with loitering & trespass. It makes me 🤢
@@beautifulyou2 Seems like they straight up ignored that the Boss stood up for him and said he was staying there, and that He had gone to the gas station next door.
Yeah I noticed that they ignored the man’s Boss. Then didn’t even look at camera footages. I wouldn’t answer any questions either.
I’d ask for a supervisor right when that lady cop started yelling.
The lady cop hadn’t gotten a complete identity from the guy first. None of them did. They did all of that after placing him in the patrol car.
He should sue Hylton and the police station.
The state of Georgia is constantly making theirselfs look stupid,
"Is it him?"
"No, go check the video"
"Nah, we're all too lazy, we're gonna harass, and imprison him anyway."
Yeah... "We don't have to" ...these lazy tyrants. They won't be happy until they've dragged everyone to the hoosegow.
Reasonable suspicion? He presented a room card and had a witness (his manager) verify his innocence.
Everything the clerk at the front desk is saying would be considered hearsay.
why do all pigs always have such fragile egos....
Getting his DOB doesn't prove or disprove he committed a crime. It's a tactic used to look for warrants or fabricate and arrest.
How would his DOB be used to fabricate an arrest?
@@luciddream2033dummy, it's the fact that they say him not giving his ID is the fabrication so they can arrest him for not giving it.. How are you this ignorant
@terrenceodonnell6347 in some states, refusing to identify is a crime if you are detained. Now the question is, was the detention lawful. According to the courts, it most likely was. He matched the description of the suspect, was in the vicinity, and was pointed out by someone as the person. There is ample court precedent that would give them reasonable suspicion to detain him. During that detention, refusing to identify is a crime in some places.
If you want to assert your rights, you need to learn the law.
@@luciddream2033smarty!
@@chipchasm thanks, I try.
The way the cop was clicking his pen shows the uncertainty he has and is flat out annoying
Omg I noticed that too. He’s like “I really really really wanna arrest someone!”
Maybe he has anxiety, or he was nervous. If that is the case, he shouldn't be a cop.
Shows nervousness
@@seeya205or he’s just fidgeting lol. Y’all are crazy
They literally told him, "That's not the guy!!" Stupidity is universal with cops.
I heard one guy say he wasn't him
Absolutely the TRUTH.
Seeing a member of the public’s ID to link to a crime must be some kind of cop super power……that the rest of us mere citizens don’t possess. The same with that other clown demanding his date of birth and threatening jail. What tyrants threatening, harassing and intimidating the public in this way
I was stopped in my car by 4 police in their cars, with their guns drawn. Luckily, a bystander was screaming, "That's not the car." "It was green, he went there!" they looked at my blue car, got back in their vehicles & said, "Stay right there, mother-fu*ker!" and continued their pursuit.
I, left.
You could tell the male cop thought the descriptions was sus when talking to the drunk witness.
Cops are so fragile especially when it comes to someone not willing to give up their rights
If they look at his ID, they'll immediately be able to tell if he was pulling on car doors. Make it make sense.
Exactly I just said that smh
We arrested people 100 years ago without video. Yes ma’am that’s why we DO have video now is to prove things actually happened. 😂 what do you think the point of recording things is??? That camera isn’t rolling and recording for no reason. That’s the whole point of having the system. Ffs. 🤦🏻♂️
she loves the 100 years ago way. cuz you don't gotta do shit.
Police academies need to be changed. The "training" they go through is an abomination. Ban the blue line gangs and abolish qualified immunity
I’m sure they were trained correctly, I’m not sure they listened.
Amen
They won't. If anything, this behavior will become normalized.
Something needs fixed that's for sure
@@RabbiJesus When you "Assume" it makes an ass out U & me.
Hundreds of videos (like this) showing police misconduct & unlawful arrests available on auditor channels should be sufficient proof that Police in the United States are not properly trained or educated on law & Constitutional rights.
how stupid were these cops?????? He was not guilty, he was eating an icecream as he said, he was not the person they were looking for. There is no stop an ID state.
The logic of the cops that they think he IS the criminal, but if he JUST identified, they would have let him go...IS JUST INSANE.
well yes, when you are stopped for fitting the description of a suspect, if you are polite and reasonable and are able to dispel a cops suspicion they will generally let you go. but trying to hide your identity when you are legally required to ID and acting generally combative kinda increases the cops suspicion actually.
Seeing a member of the public’s ID to link to a crime must be some kind of cop super power that the rest of us mere citizens don’t possess. The same with that other clown demanding his date of birth and threatening jail. What tyrants threatening, harassing and intimidating the public in this way
@@stanswaby The cops must have known the date of birth of the person pulling on the car door handles. They needed to verify that the dude was born on a different day so they could let him go.
^^^Sarcasm Alert
Oh, it wasn't just that, didn't you hear the cop. She has damning evidence He said :I did not do it" instead of "I didn't do it" and she was told that means he definitely did and he's guilty 😂😢😂😢😢😢 WTF how is this our system in 2024 😢
@lizf1353 but but but, she learned some bs pseudo-psychology from work 😒🥺 she just cannnnnt be wrong!
Think of how hurt her feelings will be when she finds out she's a fcking moron!
How on earth was this not an F?
Agreed. C- is ludicrious.
Usually for a cop to get a D or F, excessive force has to be used on top serious civil rights violations. Hence the C- here.
@@librab103thank you. I hate that every time a cop does something wrong everybody screams they should get an F. There are ludicrous situations where cops are violent for no good reason or have caused permanent long life injuries to innocent people and and in those situations they 100% deserve an F.
@dobbsy22 They deserve an F because it was a piss poor "investigation." Never once accessed hotel video to confirm anything. Then the female cop yelling because she couldn't get her ID crack. Unprofessional. It's an F.
@librab103 Read what u just said again. What a bunch of bullshit. Only excessive force makes it an F???? Are you fucking insane??? That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard.. And thats part of the problem. Only excessive force but the severity of piss poor decisions, poor professionalism, uneducated if the laws they swore to uphold...
So a cop could do everything wrong but not beat the shit outta you and thats not an F??? Fuck outta here...
They are taking a third party claim at face value. The desk clerk claims that someone ELSE claims he is the guy. They need to talk to the WITNESS - not to someone who claims to have talked to the witness.
Refusing an id is arrestable lol that cop needs to go
I can’t believe that That Hilton employee trespassed him for absolutely no reason. She needs to be fired and the Hilton should be sued.
I bet the cop told her too! He should sue the hotel and the cops. She didn't even witness him doing anything.
Trespass
It isn't good when companies enable these dumbass practices.
That old guy seemed intoxicated as well. Great witness 👏 👌 👎 👎 👎
Where does it say she trespassed them?
I would’ve told the front desk attendant that she should think about what she was about to do. Kicking someone out for doing nothing will open her employer up to a lawsuit.
One should never say that to a witness because that would get an added charge of Witness Intimidation.
"Witness intimidation is the act of trying to prevent or alter a witness's testimony or report to law enforcement. It can also include retaliating against a witness for their testimony or report."
"Witness intimidation is a crime under both federal and state laws."
@ that’s not witness intimidation. You should look up what intimidation means and what constitutes intimidation.
I see you get intimidated easily even when people aren’t intimidating. People really need to start learning the meanings of words.
@@Danielthornton61 You must work in a municipal building, where a citizen with a camera is "intimidating".
How can you be so sure it wasn't him that did it? Buying ice cream means you're not guilty? Having a key card and a room is 100% proof too? Note that not all video of ATA is about arresting criminals. In the end, we will never know, I bet there will never be any updates on this case.
those tyrant cops dont care about the front desk lady.. if they could have arrested her they would of.
The reasoning this woman cop uses is absolutely astonishing she is going to be a big liability
She’s an idiot.
"Woman " cop. Nuff said..............
Ponytails always are. no surprise.
15:56
Officer (Female) ~ “now we’re going to do a full investigation “
- why not do that first before unlawfully Arresting someone 😂
I wish all of these people would say "how will my I.D. help your investigation?" Or "I'm not required to help you investigate".
More citizens need to stand strong on their constitutiinal rights & stop immediately handing over their personal papers & effects.
Saw an old video today from a few years ago. Cop was grilling a man (who was helping his friend move) about his prior arrests. They try to show that you're a convicted felon in order to strengthen their probable cause in court. Judges lap that stuff up.
So while dealing with this guy, they don't catch the actual person... They get so offended and forget the original reason they are even there!
Bruising the cops ego is Very serious crime.
Mad respect for this dude eating a Popsicle telling cops to screw off
I was thinking the same thing
Living his best life 😅🎉
A SUCCULENT CHINEESE POPSICLE....
Police always feel like they doing the right thing. I can hear in the female cops voice how she things this is a win. Makes me second guess all previous arrest. Acting suspicious is not a crime. Citizen are not allowed to help you with your investigation. These police should know these by now. They make me sick
How can professionals having ''no idea what they are doing'' result in a C- ?
I’m guessing you haven’t seen some of the cops that get an F. 😂
It's like guessing answers during a test. Sometimes you correctly guess enough times to barely pass 😂
It's based on legal standing. C- is the lowest you can get without violating rights and breaking laws. The officers did have reasonable suspicion, they even had an eye witness claim that was the right guy, so they had every right to get his ID. However they were hostile, rude, and even once realized it was the wrong guy continued to make the situation worse.
@@faytleingod1851 I still can’t understand how audit the audit can say the cops had the right to get ID when they had zero evidence except hearsay about a third party who had left and a ‘witness’ who wasn’t allowed to go to the car to confirm the identity of the arrested man and who said the actual person wore a hoodie and pants (not shorts)
@NearlyFullyFree this channel is more of an informative of the law than a personal reaction channel.
It's very clear they had reasonable suspicion, and probable cause. Regardless of if it was the correct suspect, or personal feelings that's how the law would see it.
Because his i.d. just screams " I DID IT "! "IT WAS ME "! Once again cops are stuck on i.d. when it's completely useless !
Maybe his name is John Car-Burglar?
Seeing a member of the public’s ID to link to a crime must be some kind of cop super power that the rest of us mere citizens don’t possess. The same with that other clown demanding his date of birth and threatening jail. What tyrants threatening, harassing and intimidating the public in this way
It's all for them to look up the past u have done so they know how to treat u.
@@roytaylor6519 yeah i know that but they never say that, and it's mostly just looking for warrants because regardless of my past they'd better treat me as though the bill of rights existed !
@@PaulRoos-p3o keep dreaming.
16:12 “now we’re gonna do a FULL investigation”. Before, we were gonna half-ass it.
Right?!
"Oh, now that we are violating someone, I guess that we might actually have to DO OUR JOBS!" To Hell with all of three bastards. Especially the female. Her attitude is complete feces.
Yeah it seems like she's implying that they typically do not give effort, but because he irritated them, they will do their jobs SO HARD.
I heard that one too. Jesus.
Still did a half a$$ investigation.
@@seeya205 They did...and it takes a special kind of moron to half a$$ something you're trying so hard to do fully 🤣🤣🤣
And what’s this BS of guilt decided by using a contraction or not… looks like the department is run on urban legend and “Ya’ll know what my grandma say”,
Zero investigation skills, bad witness procedure, and soliciting a trespass.
FEELINGS Police, that’s why. Great video for the Police Academy on how NOT… to act.
Pignorance.
Aside from that, The manager is going to be fired fast.
Drunk witness
pig talk is absolutely disgusting
10:50 "now you're obstructing OUR justice" what an a-hole, she completely fell apart at the seams
Excuse,Excuse. Sue the power tripping pricks in my opinion.
How cops can be so confident and so wrong at the same time? Oh yea no accountability!
And narcissism and psychopathy
Every cop in this video and the hotel attendant infuriate me. Even trespassing the guy. Instead of actually investigating, somehow only the ID will prove what he did. Remind me to never go buy some ice cream at this town and walk.
Call the hotel and complain about the employee. The cops won't be fired but the dumb c unit from the hotel will with enough bad feedback.
@@Don-mi6zldamn. And here I thought cancel culture was a myth but here it is live and in the flesh 😂
@@PANDAXD001 You are truly a dumb person. People who are incompetent and a danger to those who they do business with should be cancelled.pedos like yourself shouldn't be working in schools no matter how much you want it.
@@PANDAXD001he’s right, the woman trespassed him on behalf of the hotel, did she get instant permission from up high to trespass?? And she also said there is NO video which with it being Hilton I’m sure is untrue, but the female cop already had him tried and convicted as she claimed that even if he saw the video he would claim it wasn’t him.
Facts!!
1. Accuser said that the guy removed his hoodie
2. Guy removed his hoodie WAY afterwards while talking to tyrants
3. 2nd witness confirms it WASN’T the guy as he was walking back from gas station
4. The hotel woman claimed the guy wasn’t a guest there and didn’t belong there
5. His boss confirmed he WAS a guest there and did belong there
6. Witness claims guy was wearing pants
7. Guy was actually wearing…. SHORTS
accuser is far from being a credible witness, video should’ve been obtained even though there isn’t a requirement, simple common sense should’ve prevailed (I know that’s asking a lot of these tyrants) fact of the matter is that this was NOT the guy they were looking for, Hilton should be sued for unfair treatment of a guest as well as unfair trespass accusation, the city and the PD should be sued for wrongful arrest.
The female officer should be fired
The young black cop just needs a little retraining especially around John and Jane Doe 😂😂
The other male cop needs to be shown the door with the female officer I would also suggest maybe getting his eyes tested.
The female hotel employee should be at least disciplined and at most fired, because rather than let the cops investigate she pushed the narrative that he WAS with absolute certainty the guy they were looking for despite admitting that she only had the accusers vague description at the time.
Seeing a member of the public’s ID to link to a crime must be some kind of cop super power that the rest of us mere citizens don’t possess. The same with that other clown demanding his date of birth and threatening jail. What tyrants threatening, harassing and intimidating the public in this way
That whole ID thing has gotten ridiculous
It's been ridiculous for a long time.
That is ridiculous! How many people wear black sweatshirts! A lot!
So basically, being suspected of a crime is a crime itself, meaning these officers think they can put anyone in cuffs without any sort of proof that they committed that crime.
Officer safety, investigative detention, etc etc. They put you in cuffs "investigating" misdemeanor ticket offenses.
Yeah. Pretty much. You new to this scene?
Everyone involved in this stop should be named in the lawsuit: the officers, the hotel clerk, and the old man who incorrectly identified him. No due diligence was taken to investigate. This could have been solved with CCTV within 5 minutes.
You can't sue a witness that said he could be the guy.
@ he said “yeah that looks like him” but said he had a hoodie on. If he had a hoodie on how the hell can he identify him just by looking at his side profile sitting in a car? The man who identified him is an idiot and deserves to be named in the lawsuit as well.
"How can he be so sure we don't have video of him trying to open car doors?"
Well considering it wasn't an exact match of the description maybe it was someone else...
@@natelevy1040 The clerk told the cops they have none facing the parking lot at 19:20. The cops can't prove a crime was even committed. Just one witness that said he kinda looks like the guy.
@@seeya205 The guy has no clue what they DO have video of, but he knows they DON'T have video of him doing something he never did.
The Hotel Trespassed an innocent man from their hotel????? For what reason???? That front desk “clerk “ should be fired !!! I hope everyone makes a complaint!!! I am!
Karen, have an iced coffee and calm down 😂😂😂
@@liMe-leMon She is right though! He shouldn't have been trespassed unless they actually had evidence that it was him.
He travels with work... probably a Hilton honors member. The clerk will be fired.. The manager is in trouble if it's a corporate hotel, and the owner, if it's a franchise.
I'm not in the hotel business directly, but I've spent years staying in hotels over 300 days a year and, due to extended stays, know multiple managers as well as owners. I know corporate takes bs like this seriously.
@@liMe-leMonHow is she a Karen when what she is saying is correct?!?
@@liMe-leMonDid you just type what you typed because you felt you wanted to say something and think that it wasn’t ok to be quiet?!?
Officers almost always make assumptions based on guilty til proven innocent
Man imagine seeing someone "walking in between cars" in a parking lot. Ive never heard of such a thing I better call the cops.
So let me get this straight
- The guy proved AND his boss confirmed he was staying at the hotel so had a legit reason for being there
- The guy said AND his boss confirmed that he had just gotten out of his boss's van in the car park, giving him a legit reason for being in the car park
Investigation done - he's given them enough information to dispel suspicion.
Plus they had no eyewitness of him actually pulling on door handles. You had hearsay information from a 3rd party.
I really hope he sues both the police and the Hilton (because their employee aggravated the situation by saying he was the person pulling on door handles despite never actually seeing it)
I just wanna make sure I understand this correctly.
A person who was staying at a hotel was trespassed from the very hotel they just gave money to.
And said person was also arrested for failing to ID when he wasn't legally required to identify himself.
All because someone saw him "walking between cars" and mentioned it to a hotel worker who escalated it to the cops and, somehow it ended up like a game of 'Telephone' and came out the other end as him "walking through the cars flipping handles".
This is completely F'd up, right? I'm not THAT high, am I?
You pretty much summed it up. TLDW
Am I the only one that listened to the parts where he said multiple times that based on the laws of the area he WAS required to identify himself? A lot of states have laws that require you to identify yourself if you have been believed to be involved in a crime, if that wasn't a thing actual criminals when asked if they did something wrong would just be like "Nah that wasn't me, trust me bro" 😂
Now does that mean he should have been arrested? I don't know, I don't think so? but my opinion doesn't really matter unless I am the judge or on the jury.
@@itsmehere1 They can detain him for the investigation but they have no reason or purpose of IDing him.
It's all about "investigating".
How does knowing his birthday help the investigation?
How does getting his first and last name determine if he was doing what he was accused of?
Are you seriously not worried that "a guy walked between some cars" got flipped into "a guy is going around flipping handles of cars trying to get in"?
Those are from the same person except that "walking between cars" got changed to the very altered, very different "walking around trying to get into other people's cars".
And now the guy is expected to surrender his information...along with the cops ridiculing him for trying to enforce his 4th amendment right?
I guess I'm dumb and don't understand law at all. 😕
@The_Pariah Did you watch the video? Like at all?...
He mentions MULTIPLE times how the laws of the area REQUIRE possible suspects to identify themselves if they are believed to be involved in a crime, so yes, they do in fact have a reason or purpose of IDing him, they have the legal right to order him to identify himself and have the right to arrest him if he refuses, as mentioned multiple times in the video.
And at no point in the video did they violate his 4th amendment right, the 4th amendment protects you against "unreasonable" searches and seizures, and because he fitted the description, in the place, and at the time of a reported crime it definitely would be reasonable to believe that he could be involved in it and could be temporarily detained, and as per law that he is required to identify himself if detained in relation to a crime, when he refused to identify himself, he broke said law.
Did they need to actually arrest him for it? No, to me it seemed these officers (especially the lady) were upset about something or just pain power hungry that day and felt the need to be super pedantic about the law on that night when they could have just let him off with a warning or a scolding, but on the other foot all he had to do was identify himself when legally required to do so, both parties in this situation were wrong and both were acting like children when doing so.
Nah way off base be th coppers seem you get arrest in the USA for nothing no witness no film zip except a he said she said I doubt if it even got to court. Any legal eagle who ran an eye over this would see there is no probably cause in the first place. As for ID though a plate of reflecting glass at a distance pppprrrh not for a jury . Hay check with DA ask if all charges got dropped. May be that's why you can't find it out come.😊