A large chunk of my life was ruined by not only my narcissistic mother; but, most of my familial line has some form of a cluster B disorder. This is a result of generational trauma caused by family members recycling abusing one another, over the decades. 30s, I was diagnosed with CPTSD and several autoimmune diseases. I went no contact, found Jesus, did therapy(EMDR, internal family systems, and CBT), committed myself to fitness and proper diet. This has been an extremely difficult journey, but you can heal and learn to help others. I'm convinced, that narcissism comes from various types of trauma, abuse, and severe coddling. Narcissism, also feels like a spiritual malady as well. Anyway, may God bless anybody reading this with healing, strength, resiliency, and honesty. I just feel like we're going to see more and more of this in society, because there are so many broken people having children. This is why I really appreciate the work that Lila does, to try to help society get to God and morals.
Hi, I come from the same type of family. I was diagnosed the same as you. Cptsd, two autoimmune diseases. Bed ridden for two years. I found the same way out. Self care, no contact with most my family. I still have a couple around that I know I should break off from but I just can’t seem to make that decision. Diet, working out, creating a relationship with God. I have no more immune symptoms. I’m out of bed but have some back issues I still deal with from being down so long. I’m mentally doing so well. Emdr and some great therapy helped so much for processing the cptsd symptoms. This is such a hard thing for families to be stuck in. It really is crazy making. I still need to find and develop a community around me. I think it is spiritual in nature as well. Good luck to you.
@@jenniferflower9265 Thank you for sharing. It is absolutely spiritual warfare. Going no contact, and finding Jesus have really leveled me up. Haven't been in the hospital in about 6 or 7 years, go to work 5 days a week, go to church 3 days a week, and the gym 3 to 5 days a week. I'm way more functional than I've ever been. Still not perfect. Ihave some residual depression, anxiety, and fear around people which causes me to isolate. However, I do have meaningful relationships, goals, healing. My finances, and my self-esteem is pretty great. I don't have contact with anyone in my family at all. They were all flying monkeys to my mother. May God bless you and your healing, and I hope that you find more and more peace every day.
As someone who was diagnosed with BPD in my 20s, gave my life to Christ at about 30, and have recovered to the point where I no longer qualify for the diagnosis anymore, I can say that RECOVERY IS POSSIBLE. It takes time, work, and an endless supply of God's grace. It also takes a community of prayerful people and a willingness to see the truth and change accordingly, no matter how difficult or confronting that may be.
I have found reading St. Faustina’s Diary and praying the Divine Mercy Chaplet during the 3 o’clock hour of mercy helps me detach with love and with compassion from individuals with higher narcissistic tendencies in my life.
My father is a diagnosed narcissist and it has wreaked havoc on my life and the lives of my family. That is so drastically different from the ways folks use the word “narcissist” in popular culture. Thank you so much for this episode Lila!
Most people have no idea. They call someone a narcissist after being insulted, or being disagreed with. You and I both know it's not that. Narcissists are destroyers of people.
I cannot thank you enough for this. It is a radically different approach to the subject. Hoping and praying for healing for all affected by relationships involving this.
I think narcissism can possibly be treated. But my dad went to therapy and was hospitalized and the abuse got worse. He didn’t think he was a narcissist or did anything wrong. His only goal was to make the therapist like him and make them on his side and believe he was right. He didn’t care about actually solving the problem. Bringing a third party in makes it WORSE for the victim. People only show their true selves sometimes around those closest to them. My dad hated himself and could not look inside because he was so insecure but on the surface he loved to look in the mirror and thought he was super handsome.
Yes, I disagree with Dr Malinowski. The research clearly shows that treatment for NPD is rarely effective. The exception seems to be PAT - a word I can't use here but google mushroom therapy. The risk of that though is terrible depression as they are forced to confront themselves.
@lynncrf But the question needs to be asked, what type of therapy is being employed here during these studies? It's not biblical based for sure, God is not involved and when God isn't involved there is no transformation. God is the only one who can cure a person of narcissism, secular therapies are empty and ultimately fruitless.
I believe i am a narcissist and I am 26. I really resonate with Dr talking abiut this sincere emptiness and shame that I am constantly trying to prove myself. I feel that I have no identity. I want to be healed so badly.
Love the opener! I think it’s crucial to understand that much like we have come to understand heaven and hell, the opposite of love is not hate- it’s absence of love. Just like hell is perceived to be the absence of God. People who lean toward Narcissistic on the scale have an absence of love for themselves- which shapes how they interact with others. Consider what absence of love might look like- and you may possibly begin to understand what not only the victims of narcissistic abuse are dealing with- but what the narcissist as a child dealt with- and what they became as a result of it. It runs deeply in families, and most of the time they may not know, or if they do- they can’t receive help or care bc that part of them that could has died off for their survival. They can’t truly receive love, bc they killed off that parts of them that could, in order to survive. Everything about it is painful. And we should pray that God gives them a heavy hand when he brings those lost sheep home. Bc they are absolutely not capable without him.
Thank you for doing this episode, Lila, since I've been frustrated hearing the "narcissism" word for years, where, to me, it came across like the dehumanizing use of "incel", and previous use of "virgin" to, perhaps unintentionally, cruelly and manipulatively label people with different opinions or it's like Paul Harvey's "If I Were the Devil" April 3rd, 1956 message: "And in His own churches I would substitute psychology for religion, and deify science." Broken sinners can be selfish. Thanks again! Hope you and your family have a light-filled peaceful good day.
So much of this (especially the coordination of our different parts) seems like a rediscovery of virtue. A virtuous man becomes one thing while those affected by vice are interiorly discordant and so are different men to different people and circumstances. Virtue is to be well the one thing which you naturally are (or are by your authentic nature).
Narcissism unfortunately runs in my family via my father’s side and I had to take a good long hard look at myself a few years ago and come face to face with my own narcissism. Acknowledging it was one of the most painful experiences I’ve ever had. I was drowning in shame and didn’t know if I would survive it. Initially I just wanted to die and/or kill myself. Thankfully, my husband encouraged me to go to therapy and my therapist helped me get to the root of this narcissism and what caused it. I will probably always have the knee-jerk reaction tendencies towards narcissism, but at least I’m aware of it now when it’s happening (for the most part) and can consciously make the right choice regardless of what I’m feeling in the moment. It’s really hard and I often feel like I’m missing something inside of me that others naturally have. I feel like a damaged alien sometimes. I understand now why most narcissists will never confront their own narcissism. Their egos are so fragile and frail, that actually comprehending their narcissism would often lead to them off-ing themselves in the midst of all of that pain and anguish. It’s like removing a painting of a landscape from a wall and finding a never ending dark hole abyss behind it.
Kirk Cameron and Candace Cameron-Bure who were both child actors seem to be well-rounded adults. I imagine their parents worked hard at keeping them grounded during their formative years especially.
They love themselves too much in SOME ways, because usually they were spoiled. My observation of every narcissist I've known is they had 1 parent who was abusive (could be emotionally abusive), causing the toxic unhealthy shame you speak of, and 1 who was enabling and spoiled them silly.
I am a covert narcissist. I dont talk much but feel very entitled and important. I have no self esteem or confidence, i struggle to connect and empathise with people. I want to change but dont know how or where to start, please help me.
Sounds like you are trying to say the wounds of love that St. John of the cross talks about which are very painful, but very healing are the methods being used here. Healing from these wounds makes the whole person in unity with all the parts.
Exactly! I always say the Red Pill movement was very good at addressing how there is no male privilege, which is true. But then, they will go ahead and make recommendations that only make the problem worse. Wife cheats on you? Cheat back! Marriage not going well? Dump her. Girl wants to earn her own money? Tell her why she shouldn't, but then make sure to remind her how entitled she is if she asks you for anything! None of those things solve the self loathing, loneliness, feeling of abandonment or sadness men feel because of the male privilege narrative. If anything, it proves them right!
@@johnxland9373 If you compare the modern feminist movement and the red pill movement, they sound like mirror images of each other. It's all a bunch of hurt and traumatized people, projecting their stuff outward.
The Bible refutes all those claimes by saying: We are more than conquerors in Christ. Stop focusing on yourself and fix your gaze on Jesus. Start seeking God's will and reading His word. Go and look for people who are in need and help them, also asking God to prepare their hearts for the Gospel. There is so much to do and so little time to waste on self pity and false docrtines and philosophies.
Yes, God wants us to go to Him just as we are. But he loves us way too much to leave us in such state. That's why He transforms us into the image of His Son. He wants us to take every thought captive and take it to Christ. It's the Holy Spirit Who changes us from within without the need for therapy. So much worng with what is said in that video😢
I just watched a video you made about people killing themselves. I have a question for you? Who is playing God…the person who gives some one a pill to take so they can die, or the one who forces you to stay alive when God decided you should die. For instance, my ex husband is on a thyroid medication to keep him alive. When his thyroid went out, it was Gods choice that he die, it was his time. But he went to the doctor to get medication to keep him alive. Do you understand? So many people say, “God gave us doctors to keep us alive.” But, this was not Gods doing. It is our insatiable desire to prove God wrong when he said we have to die. Don’t sit and pretend that you are doing something good. And why is it that the only sin according to Christians is homosexuality and abortion? You are not God. God gave us his laws and said that if we keep them, we will live. If we don’t we die. The laws of God are still very much in effect. If it was a sin 4000 years ago, it’s still sin today. And Paul said the wages of sin is death. Get it?
Colossians 2:8 And see that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deceit based on human tradition. Psychology is precisely that : a philosophy based on numerous theories, hypothesis and supposition. It doesn't lead you to Christ but rather tells you to seek salvation at a therapist's. That's a lie! If you are born again, you can no longer live a narcissistic life style. If you do, then you need to repent and ask for forgiveness . You need to turn from your wicked ways and start following Christ. Seek the face of God. He is near to broken-hearted. Read the word. Meditate on it. Don't listen to the enemy. You are a new creation in Christ. You can do anything and everything through Christ Who strengthens you.
I am so disappointed, yet not surprised at the conclusions of this psychologist. Unfortunately, they all want blame the fruit of flesh on childhood traumas/parents/circumstances, etc. They all talk about low self esteem and not loving ourselves enough. This goes against the Scriptures! We are never taught to love ourselves more. We are to learn to love God with our everything. And then we are to love others more than ourselves. There is a reason Jesus talked about being born again. If you are a narcissist, then repent and turn to God. And God will give you a new heart and will take away your heart of stone. You will be born again of Spirit. You will be a new creation in Christ. It will no longer you but Christ will live in you. Psychology is so twisted and there are as many shools of thought as there are psychologists. Run from them. All their therapy centers on you/your/yours/for you/ yourself . Go to God and ask Him to set your free from the sickness called sin. Those "experts" will always keep you in bondage. You need Christ . Psychology is based on secular antibiblical philosophies.
Narcissists will never do that because their entire identity and psychological structure is built around the belief that they are always right *and* that they cannot give power to anyone, including God. Also, the science is pretty clear: you cannot develop NPD without either being abused or spoiled as a child. The latter one is rare but the first one is the most common reason. As a result, narcissists get stuck in the toddler stage where everything is supposed to revolve around them.
It's insane how Rose tries to lead the conversation towards Jesus and this, what appears to be a new age life coach, wont go there , but rather insists on having relationships with our "parts". Run from such "experts"
I see it as a form of complex ptsd. A child experiences trauma or neglect and starts creating a fantasy vision of the world, an inner-narrative where they are different, misunderstood, special, nobody understands them or everyones out there to get them, so in the end they start resenting people and having unhealthy relationships with others because of that deep wound
A large chunk of my life was ruined by not only my narcissistic mother; but, most of my familial line has some form of a cluster B disorder. This is a result of generational trauma caused by family members recycling abusing one another, over the decades. 30s, I was diagnosed with CPTSD and several autoimmune diseases. I went no contact, found Jesus, did therapy(EMDR, internal family systems, and CBT), committed myself to fitness and proper diet. This has been an extremely difficult journey, but you can heal and learn to help others. I'm convinced, that narcissism comes from various types of trauma, abuse, and severe coddling. Narcissism, also feels like a spiritual malady as well. Anyway, may God bless anybody reading this with healing, strength, resiliency, and honesty. I just feel like we're going to see more and more of this in society, because there are so many broken people having children. This is why I really appreciate the work that Lila does, to try to help society get to God and morals.
Oh hey are you me bc like wow that’s my profile
@@Braingrandchild I'm sorry to hear that you had to face the trauma, but glad to hear about the triumph ❤️
Hi, I come from the same type of family. I was diagnosed the same as you. Cptsd, two autoimmune diseases. Bed ridden for two years. I found the same way out. Self care, no contact with most my family. I still have a couple around that I know I should break off from but I just can’t seem to make that decision. Diet, working out, creating a relationship with God. I have no more immune symptoms. I’m out of bed but have some back issues I still deal with from being down so long. I’m mentally doing so well. Emdr and some great therapy helped so much for processing the cptsd symptoms. This is such a hard thing for families to be stuck in. It really is crazy making. I still need to find and develop a community around me. I think it is spiritual in nature as well. Good luck to you.
@@jenniferflower9265 Thank you for sharing. It is absolutely spiritual warfare. Going no contact, and finding Jesus have really leveled me up. Haven't been in the hospital in about 6 or 7 years, go to work 5 days a week, go to church 3 days a week, and the gym 3 to 5 days a week. I'm way more functional than I've ever been. Still not perfect. Ihave some residual depression, anxiety, and fear around people which causes me to isolate. However, I do have meaningful relationships, goals, healing. My finances, and my self-esteem is pretty great. I don't have contact with anyone in my family at all. They were all flying monkeys to my mother. May God bless you and your healing, and I hope that you find more and more peace every day.
As someone who was diagnosed with BPD in my 20s, gave my life to Christ at about 30, and have recovered to the point where I no longer qualify for the diagnosis anymore, I can say that RECOVERY IS POSSIBLE.
It takes time, work, and an endless supply of God's grace.
It also takes a community of prayerful people and a willingness to see the truth and change accordingly, no matter how difficult or confronting that may be.
Did you do schema therapy to help you heal?
I have found reading St. Faustina’s Diary and praying the Divine Mercy Chaplet during the 3 o’clock hour of mercy helps me detach with love and with compassion from individuals with higher narcissistic tendencies in my life.
My father is a diagnosed narcissist and it has wreaked havoc on my life and the lives of my family. That is so drastically different from the ways folks use the word “narcissist” in popular culture. Thank you so much for this episode Lila!
Most people have no idea. They call someone a narcissist after being insulted, or being disagreed with. You and I both know it's not that. Narcissists are destroyers of people.
It’s one in six, many of us have dealt with narcissists.
I cannot thank you enough for this. It is a radically different approach to the subject. Hoping and praying for healing for all affected by relationships involving this.
I think narcissism can possibly be treated. But my dad went to therapy and was hospitalized and the abuse got worse. He didn’t think he was a narcissist or did anything wrong. His only goal was to make the therapist like him and make them on his side and believe he was right. He didn’t care about actually solving the problem. Bringing a third party in makes it WORSE for the victim. People only show their true selves sometimes around those closest to them.
My dad hated himself and could not look inside because he was so insecure but on the surface he loved to look in the mirror and thought he was super handsome.
Yes, I disagree with Dr Malinowski. The research clearly shows that treatment for NPD is rarely effective. The exception seems to be PAT - a word I can't use here but google mushroom therapy. The risk of that though is terrible depression as they are forced to confront themselves.
@lynncrf But the question needs to be asked, what type of therapy is being employed here during these studies? It's not biblical based for sure, God is not involved and when God isn't involved there is no transformation. God is the only one who can cure a person of narcissism, secular therapies are empty and ultimately fruitless.
Anything is possible through Gods love. Narcissistic people can change if they are WILLING to. ❤
I believe i am a narcissist and I am 26. I really resonate with Dr talking abiut this sincere emptiness and shame that I am constantly trying to prove myself. I feel that I have no identity. I want to be healed so badly.
Love the opener! I think it’s crucial to understand that much like we have come to understand heaven and hell, the opposite of love is not hate- it’s absence of love. Just like hell is perceived to be the absence of God.
People who lean toward Narcissistic on the scale have an absence of love for themselves- which shapes how they interact with others.
Consider what absence of love might look like- and you may possibly begin to understand what not only the victims of narcissistic abuse are dealing with- but what the narcissist as a child dealt with- and what they became as a result of it.
It runs deeply in families, and most of the time they may not know, or if they do- they can’t receive help or care bc that part of them that could has died off for their survival. They can’t truly receive love, bc they killed off that parts of them that could, in order to survive.
Everything about it is painful. And we should pray that God gives them a heavy hand when he brings those lost sheep home. Bc they are absolutely not capable without him.
Wonderful guest. Wonderful host. Wonderful interview.
Well said, Dr. Malinoski. Will wait for the follow up to this episode.
The balancing instinct to overcome certain traumas.
Thank you for doing this episode, Lila, since I've been frustrated hearing the "narcissism" word for years, where, to me, it came across like the dehumanizing use of "incel", and previous use of "virgin" to, perhaps unintentionally, cruelly and manipulatively label people with different opinions or it's like Paul Harvey's "If I Were the Devil" April 3rd, 1956 message:
"And in His own churches I would substitute psychology for religion, and deify science."
Broken sinners can be selfish.
Thanks again! Hope you and your family have a light-filled peaceful good day.
So much of this (especially the coordination of our different parts) seems like a rediscovery of virtue. A virtuous man becomes one thing while those affected by vice are interiorly discordant and so are different men to different people and circumstances. Virtue is to be well the one thing which you naturally are (or are by your authentic nature).
Narcissism unfortunately runs in my family via my father’s side and I had to take a good long hard look at myself a few years ago and come face to face with my own narcissism. Acknowledging it was one of the most painful experiences I’ve ever had. I was drowning in shame and didn’t know if I would survive it. Initially I just wanted to die and/or kill myself. Thankfully, my husband encouraged me to go to therapy and my therapist helped me get to the root of this narcissism and what caused it. I will probably always have the knee-jerk reaction tendencies towards narcissism, but at least I’m aware of it now when it’s happening (for the most part) and can consciously make the right choice regardless of what I’m feeling in the moment. It’s really hard and I often feel like I’m missing something inside of me that others naturally have. I feel like a damaged alien sometimes. I understand now why most narcissists will never confront their own narcissism. Their egos are so fragile and frail, that actually comprehending their narcissism would often lead to them off-ing themselves in the midst of all of that pain and anguish. It’s like removing a painting of a landscape from a wall and finding a never ending dark hole abyss behind it.
Jesus didd for and can heal all things❤ things therapists can't. There is a spiritual root to psychological things like that
I have come to realise I too am a covert narcissist and have had suicidal ideation - I don't know how I'm going to combat this
oh my gosh!!!!! this is AMAZING fuel for my brain
Yes, please, definitely have him back!
Kirk Cameron and Candace Cameron-Bure who were both child actors seem to be well-rounded adults. I imagine their parents worked hard at keeping them grounded during their formative years especially.
Kirk Cameron got Matthew perry fired for being 'an agent of satan'
Lila is the best!
A narcissist destroyed my son's family and my finances. An unreal experience that I now know is being repeated across the country. Beware.
Hg Tudor shares a lot of educational videos on NPD.. it’s more common than you think.
So helpful! Thanks!
(35:35) Key Takeaway: be comfortable with not taking yourself too seriously
They love themselves too much in SOME ways, because usually they were spoiled. My observation of every narcissist I've known is they had 1 parent who was abusive (could be emotionally abusive), causing the toxic unhealthy shame you speak of, and 1 who was enabling and spoiled them silly.
I am a covert narcissist. I dont talk much but feel very entitled and important. I have no self esteem or confidence, i struggle to connect and empathise with people. I want to change but dont know how or where to start, please help me.
Where do I find those podcasts mentioned, no 97 and 98 please?
Sounds like you are trying to say the wounds of love that St. John of the cross talks about which are very painful, but very healing are the methods being used here. Healing from these wounds makes the whole person in unity with all the parts.
can you interview brain health brain science daniel amen
I don't need to understand narcissists. And I don't believe that the majority of them believe they 'are bad'.
Absolutely
How do you manage having a narcissistic parent-in-law when your spouse can't see it?
To an extreme
Basically he described the redpill community.
Facts! And every other new social movement around trans, fat acceptance, and BLM.
Exactly! I always say the Red Pill movement was very good at addressing how there is no male privilege, which is true.
But then, they will go ahead and make recommendations that only make the problem worse. Wife cheats on you? Cheat back! Marriage not going well? Dump her. Girl wants to earn her own money? Tell her why she shouldn't, but then make sure to remind her how entitled she is if she asks you for anything!
None of those things solve the self loathing, loneliness, feeling of abandonment or sadness men feel because of the male privilege narrative. If anything, it proves them right!
@@TheRisky9 The redpill is feminism for men.
@@johnxland9373 If you compare the modern feminist movement and the red pill movement, they sound like mirror images of each other. It's all a bunch of hurt and traumatized people, projecting their stuff outward.
@@TheRisky9 You really think there is no male privilege? I think that both men and women have their own forms of privileges.
The Bible refutes all those claimes by saying: We are more than conquerors in Christ. Stop focusing on yourself and fix your gaze on Jesus. Start seeking God's will and reading His word. Go and look for people who are in need and help them, also asking God to prepare their hearts for the Gospel. There is so much to do and so little time to waste on self pity and false docrtines and philosophies.
Yes, God wants us to go to Him just as we are. But he loves us way too much to leave us in such state. That's why He transforms us into the image of His Son. He wants us to take every thought captive and take it to Christ. It's the Holy Spirit Who changes us from within without the need for therapy. So much worng with what is said in that video😢
A survival instinct
The devaluation and inflation explains a loved one to a T.
I just watched a video you made about people killing themselves. I have a question for you? Who is playing God…the person who gives some one a pill to take so they can die, or the one who forces you to stay alive when God decided you should die. For instance, my ex husband is on a thyroid medication to keep him alive. When his thyroid went out, it was Gods choice that he die, it was his time. But he went to the doctor to get medication to keep him alive. Do you understand? So many people say, “God gave us doctors to keep us alive.” But, this was not Gods doing. It is our insatiable desire to prove God wrong when he said we have to die. Don’t sit and pretend that you are doing something good.
And why is it that the only sin according to Christians is homosexuality and abortion? You are not God. God gave us his laws and said that if we keep them, we will live. If we don’t we die.
The laws of God are still very much in effect. If it was a sin 4000 years ago, it’s still sin today. And Paul said the wages of sin is death. Get it?
Colossians 2:8 And see that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deceit based on human tradition. Psychology is precisely that : a philosophy based on numerous theories, hypothesis and supposition. It doesn't lead you to Christ but rather tells you to seek salvation at a therapist's. That's a lie! If you are born again, you can no longer live a narcissistic life style. If you do, then you need to repent and ask for forgiveness . You need to turn from your wicked ways and start following Christ. Seek the face of God. He is near to broken-hearted. Read the word. Meditate on it. Don't listen to the enemy. You are a new creation in Christ. You can do anything and everything through Christ Who strengthens you.
I am so disappointed, yet not surprised at the conclusions of this psychologist. Unfortunately, they all want blame the fruit of flesh on childhood traumas/parents/circumstances, etc. They all talk about low self esteem and not loving ourselves enough. This goes against the Scriptures! We are never taught to love ourselves more. We are to learn to love God with our everything. And then we are to love others more than ourselves. There is a reason Jesus talked about being born again. If you are a narcissist, then repent and turn to God. And God will give you a new heart and will take away your heart of stone. You will be born again of Spirit. You will be a new creation in Christ. It will no longer you but Christ will live in you. Psychology is so twisted and there are as many shools of thought as there are psychologists. Run from them. All their therapy centers on you/your/yours/for you/ yourself . Go to God and ask Him to set your free from the sickness called sin. Those "experts" will always keep you in bondage. You need Christ . Psychology is based on secular antibiblical philosophies.
Narcissists will never do that because their entire identity and psychological structure is built around the belief that they are always right *and* that they cannot give power to anyone, including God.
Also, the science is pretty clear: you cannot develop NPD without either being abused or spoiled as a child. The latter one is rare but the first one is the most common reason. As a result, narcissists get stuck in the toddler stage where everything is supposed to revolve around them.
This was going okay until he said he has no fear, and chases dogs. Wtf was he talking about?!
It's insane how Rose tries to lead the conversation towards Jesus and this, what appears to be a new age life coach, wont go there , but rather insists on having relationships with our "parts". Run from such "experts"
Is narcissism overused? Is it just extreme selfishness?
That's where I was leaning, so I'm looking forward this this!
@@JohnHenrysaysHiyes really interesting!
It's much deeper!
I see it as a form of complex ptsd. A child experiences trauma or neglect and starts creating a fantasy vision of the world, an inner-narrative where they are different, misunderstood, special, nobody understands them or everyones out there to get them, so in the end they start resenting people and having unhealthy relationships with others because of that deep wound
@@lalpark I agree, and it's also a survival mechanism.