Air starting the 80 H.P. Fairbanks
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2008
- This is the Oldenburg Fairbanks diesel.In 1927 this engine was purchased for $8726.00
Specs.
80 H.P. Type Y style VA
50kw dc generator
2 cylinder 300 RPM
12" bore
15" stroke
Weight 21,175 lbs
12000 gallon fuel oil tank was specified for engine
Produced electric for .0123 per kw hour
This engine was retired in the early 70's. Now it belongs to the Franlin County Antique Machinery Club - Наука та технологія
These were the cadillacs of the day and allowed industry to advance to where it is now. It is nice to see such machines still running. Thanks for the vid.
its great seeing these old engines running.
at the antique gas and steam engine museum up in california, they have a huge 3 cylinder fairbanks that is always fun to watch start up
Engine sounds better, and smoother than most new car engines today.
Its a very big engine - nice video!
What a fantastic exhaust note these engines have sounds really gutsy !
Beautiful sound of a diese engine in harmony...developing all its power!!!
That had the neatest sound when it was starting up! GA-LUMP! GA-LUMP!
I think you are right about the rattle noise. Even though this engine runs smooth I think it vibrates enough to rattle the ladder frame or something else. At 1:25 the camera changes to a different angle and the noise disappears.
This is great - the Penngrove Power & Implement Museum (California) has a 1925 Y-VA that we've restored - I've done a video of it's first start.
I believe this is also a Y-VA which was the first true diesel from FM. Up until seeing this video, we knew of only one other running Y-VA in FL.
Good job showing the process of an air start. And your other video of it running is nice too.
They turn on the compression release and roll one of the pistons just past Top Dead Center. They then close the compression release and shoot a large volume of air into the cylinder. This forces the piston down and starts the rotation. Momentum and timing another shot or two of air after it rolls by itself it will fire and take off on its own.
thanks for the question, Fred
@broham776 It all depends. There are only 2 variables and 1 constant. The constant is 5252. So let's say this engine is 80 H.P. at 300 rpm's. Then the equation would be 80 X 5252= 420160. Now divide that by the rpm' and you have torque. In this case that is a little over 1400 lbs. So remember it is H.P. X 5252 divided by rpm's. Your powerstroke say is 365 H.P., so 365 X 5252 is 1,916,980 then divide by RPM's say 3000 = 638 lbs of torque!!
back when we had the world by the balls , everything made to last.
I go to that show every year
Yes, you are correct. I tryied to show the timing mark. Slightly after TDC.
That is very cool I love old iron
I remember seeing a engine like this one in a fair ground a few years back
in NY state but it had been used on a water pump and it was running.
Great old machines that they could build away back in those years.
You are a KING! you made a machine making circles out of smoke like when you smoke hookah xD
1:04
that was a nice start, makes a great sound
I love it. that is really cool.
brings a tear to your eye :)
@MrBaldridge1988 Yes, They are running lights aaround the outside and the RR crossing lights.
that generator is a d.c machine a d.c generator and most if not all d.c machines can be used both as either a motor or a gen so that means that this outfit could possibly also be started electrically using the generator as a cranking motor with appropiate d.c power from either batteries or another d.c source i worked on railway locomotives and on some older locomotives the gen was used to crank the 1500 h.p diesel fed by batteries for starting
very nice love to see one in real life
There's just something about a smooth running F-M!
Yea I thought about that after I posted it, because they have no need to run them that slow, thanks
i want one of these!
awesome!!!
80hp, but a fuckload of torque!
That was cool. I assume you were putting the piston just beyond TDC, then filling with air? Forgive my ignorance.
awesome
Excellent!
@gwheyduke This was used to generate electric for the Sisters Of Oldenberg.
@TheRudeClown no the new idea is make em cheap and make sure the customer has to buy a million parts for it
i'm in love
About $108,000, and that is about right.
This is AC Generator. DC Generator contains commutator on the end of it's shaft. This generator contains slide rings...
@EpiDemic117 Biggest difference is this engine developes over 1400 ft.lbs. torque at 300 RPM'S....
If you would just read the decscription it says 300RPM. 40 LOL.
It sounds like the car Ian Carmichael bought, in School For Scoundrels :-)
to answer Testecull,s comment here no need to try to rig a electric starter on this machine because that d.c generator this engine is powering could very possibly be used to crank this engine on starting only thing possibly needed would be batteries at a appropiate voltage plus some swichting gear and some wiring battery voltage would depend to a degree on that generators normal voltage
@pileofiron if you produce more power then you use it feeds into the electrical grid for the city and they have to buy the power from you at current price. so they will actually pay you to make your own power.
@bernard240vdc Unless the generator was designed to be a starter it won't work as one. More than likely this one would burn itself up before it would turn that engine for starting. That's why they start it with air.
Its not the ticking sound of the compressor, its most easily heard in hte first camera view. its quite loud... Im not quite sure how to describe it.
Runs like a top.
check out the smoke rings, lol!
Wonderful video!
Glad you showed the "starting line", though I do not know why it matters.
How fun seeing the smoke rings and hearing it!
Do they turn it over slowly a number of times to get oil lubricating everything before start-up?
Thank you.
I Assume the Little Engine is the Pony Motor to start the big Engine as It Called .
There is a electric motor that is running a air compressor.. The air is stored in tanks and the video shows the air pressure. The diesel engine is manually turned to a starting mark on the flywheel. The air is actually ported into the cylinders and that is what spins the engine to start.
@@pileofiron Thanks ! BTW Love these old Engines
@Sneighke This generator set produces a lot more electricity that you need. If you could scale it down to run your house and run of WVO it would still probably that cheap??? Thanks for the reply, Fred
$8726 in 1927?!
are u sure? thats about the same as so many millions now!!
I don't know what the name is of the electric motor, but the air compressor is the same as the engine, Fairbanks Morse.
And today, I have learned yet another was to lose a limb (in the flywheel)
Oh, I thought the thing had an engine to drive the air compressor...I guess I should had given the video a little better look.
Cool. But I would hate to get a hand in that fly wheel..
Correct, It generates 110 VDC @ 50kva
That's what the sign said......
@john1966elliott No it was used by a convent..
Seems to me it would be a TON easier to retrofit an electric starter of some sort.
It's not like it's hard to recharge the batteries after the start with this setup.
@sol1234lion OK see you there!!! Fred
yeahh
very very nice engine. makes my reid look bad
@pileofiron so say a powerstroke diesel is 500 ft lbs at like what 1,500-2,000 rpms or higher? so this engine produces more torque at a lower rpm? do i have that right?
And I also notice once its running it has a sound kind of like when using a hand saw. what is that?
@ryotaryuu that's like 3600 in modern RPMs. ;)
The only thing I hear is the little electric driven air compressor is still running. That's just a guess.
What kind of engine is running the starting air compressor?
Do you know how low it idles? i would imagine its about 40 rpm, but im not sure.
@MrJosephMopar It is supposed to be 15" stroke...I will correct it...
@NathansBackwoods it is a set rpm not varible
@tpvalley Haha you're off by a zero :)
106K give or take. A lot of money, but that is quite a machine (and a generator, it looks like).
What were these engines used for .. or in?
At first start up it sounds like somethin from willey wonk lol....cool nonetheless
OOmpa- LOOmpa, OOmpa - LOOmpa...
Dude, I want one! where'd you get it?
That guy must like that exaust belch in the face.
@MrJosephMopar 15 inch
thats a cool sounding engine, especially when it goes from tHUNK THUNK to actually running.
could it still produce electric if u wanted it to
How much would $8726.00 in todays money. Prob. millions?
I don't think they idle this engine. It has a regulated working speed of 300 rpm's. They probably could slow it down to under 100 but the engine would not be effecient... Interesting comment...
loud engine?
why is it???? its a 1927 engine not a 2009.
Hay look Indian black smoke signals. Lets see the engine run.
Bah
Crazy how my cutlass has a more powerful motor than that giant ass thing
It will whip your cutlasses ass in torque...
@@fredvanhook3003 maybe so but still power to size ratio doesn't lie
@@dylanpetrovic7307 I would like to see your engine coupled directly to this engine with a big clutch.. Put both engines at their best power output and then dump the clutch.. They are internal combustion engines.. Motors have extention cords...