That happened at about the end of 2015. 8-Bit Cinema, Film-Schooled, Art of the Scene and Homemade Trailers are among many featured shows that were scraped since then. Thank God they kept the lists coming.
In Saving Private Ryan's defense, I'd say that for realism, the chaos of the battle scenes IS the whole idea. An 18 year old soldier scared shitless literally HAS no idea what is going on around him, and Spielberg wanted to transfer some of that to the audience.
Brian Merritt But there's this thing: it's okay to capture confusion, and yeah if a tank came from behind them almost out of nowhere I'd be okay if it actually made sense when you think about it. But it doesn't. It is still one of my favorite movies, though.
It's not supposed to make sense. The tank was a surprise, just like it would be to them in reality. You can't always make sense of things during a battle.
Right. So the dude strapped to the front of a truck playing 'flame-thrower electric guitar', for no apparent reason, did not make you think "Oh, I am watching something very stupid"? No? OK. That was the lamest thing I've seen in recent years, apart from all the Captain America/Marvel comic shit that has taken over. I guess people really are just stupid, and want to see flaming guitars and bullshit like that, because Fuck Yeah!
That train fight from SPIDER-MAN 2 was incredible. Constantly dynamic, but so easy to follow, and allows the two actors to show their skills without it interrupting the action.
The fight scene with Furiosa and Max with Nux chained to his muzzle with a car door in between them is one of the greatest fight scenes in all of movie history. It is so perfectly paced and visually stunning throughout. The cinematography isn't shaky-cam BS and shows so much so quickly without becoming nauseating. The dynamic between Max, Furiosa, Nux, the muzzle, chain and car door, Joe's wives, and even the War Rig (water hose, hidden gun in plastered skull, etc) are so brilliantly put at odds with each other in a way that conveys so much character and depth into just one action sequence is breath-taking. I've seen it over 40 times and it hasn't gotten old. Simply amazing. George Miller is a genius, and I love him, lol!
Because Oldboy is an adaptation of a Japanese Manga, that's why! On a side note, Snowpiercer is also a graphic novel adaptation, and the source material is French.
I found the Children of Men scene when go into building to rescue the baby the most compelling and original action sequence I've ever seen, particularly because the character does without ever using a weapon or harming someone. I also think the final street battle in Yojimbo with long shots, cartoonish character or villains and all the tension lending up to it is my single favorite.
Troy? Achilles vs Hector was perhaps the most beautifully choreographed fight scene i've ever seen. I also really liked the opening fight scene in Troy. The sheer simplicity and speed of Achilles killing the big bald guy really took me by surprise.
I'm not going to scour the comments section for comments like this one, but I would like to say that the bit about the pyramid was one of the most clearly communicated and obviously well-understood things I've ever had explained to me, and one of the many reason why I think CineFix is the best channel on youtube. Keep doing what you do, guys.
I’m really glad you mentioned that Bourne Ultimatum fight scene - I’ve always thought it’s one of the best I’ve ever seen, but the quick cutting always made me think I should look down on it. Glad it’s also appreciated by someone like you guys!
One of my all time faves. I saw it in theaters when it came out in... 2001 I think?... and I own it and watch it regularly. At the time, that form of action had been dormant for a long time. Having been raised on Bruce Lee and other martial arts movies of the 70’s, CTHD was like a modernized breath of fresh air.
I guess you don't do TV/netflix in these lists, which is fair enough. But that hallway fight in Daredevil season 1 was an amazing example of choreography and action being perfectly tied to the plot and themes of that particular episode. That's why it worked so well!!
OKay. Since every time that hallway scene in Daredevil is mentioned the hallways shot of Oldboy is brought up, can I ask you; do you think the Daredevil scene deserves a mention over the Oldboy one?
This should be shown in film school and media classes. The Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon section isn't teaching me anything I didn't already surmise for myself, but the rest really got me thinking about the artistry behind an action scene. Cheers, guys. :)
I love the way Fury Road was shot, the next cuts focus is where your eyes were on the previous one. You're not constantly scanning the screen to find the action. Amazing work
Did anyone else notice the Second "N" in the Word "Unranked" was bolded because in the previous video, there was a typo in the title card where it said "Unraked?" Nice touch, CineFix. Nice touch.
one of my favorite action sequences isn't even from a movie, it's the hallway fight scene from the second episode of Daredevil... the fact that the director keeps that entire fight engaging despite it consisting of a single long camera shot of a hallway is a testament to excellent choreography
When you were talking about Saving Private Ryan, isn't that the point of the movie? The battlefield is chaotic. When you're fighting a war, there's so much chaos it's hard to know what is happening and why it's happening. It just is and you need to adjust to it.
Absolutely. We weren't attempting to criticize SPR in the sense that what it did was WRONG or BAD, we were just trying to point out that the decisions that were made in that scene did not provide the same level of top-down clarity. These lists are all about non-judgment :) We're more interested in HOW it works than how GOOD it is.
especially urban warfare, earlier in the movie we have the straightforward one side is one army the other side is the other army with normandy but in the finale the armies are mixed in the between the buildings
Honestly I think almost all of Saving Private Ryan's set pieces could be on this list. One of my favorite little sequences is the mexican standoff when the brick wall falls down.
What bugged me most about SPR, the characters. They take some unit to pull a guy off the line, fine. In reality, they pulled him even before he dropped, but whatever. But a Rangers' captain on the edge of collapse isn't a great guy for a special mission. And some of his men don't act like proper soldiers either. But what do I know, I'm a bloody civillian who never was in a battle. I liked the camerawork, though. And that it made money to make Band of Brothers, which is the shit.
***** I'm sorry I confused about your statement. especially the part about the "They take some unit to pull a guy off the line, fine. In reality, they pulled him even before he dropped". Might be a translation thing.
So glad you included Two Towers .. that entire movie is PERFECTION in how it all drives to that one battle - and then the battle itself pays off. You know where every single shot happens because he has set everything up perfectly. We know where the characters are at all times. We're never lost.. not for one moment. In any given shot, if a character looks off screen, we know EXACTLY where he is looking. It's perfection.
Some of my favorites action sequences in film>> Truck flip & batbike stop in TDK, Jackie's Drunken Master II fight, John Wick's Club shootout, Rock's final showdown vs. goons in WTJ , Hallway fight scene Christian Bale vs. soldiers in Equilibrium, Truck top fighting & motor cycle chase in Matrix II and Transporter III bicycle vs. car chase..
I actually think the fight scene in the mall near the start of T2 is also really exceptional. I think it teaches us so much about the story and also about our villain. I agree that the bike/truck chase scene is really excellently directed.
It'll probably be on the next one. It seems this "5 Brilliant Moments" is becoming a new series and honestly so excited because these videos are just absolutely fucking excellent.
Kujakuseki01 I think the fight scene in the end also is greatly directed. Every hit matters and the camera movement, the lighting is perfect. James Cameron is in my opinion the master of great story structure, every scene leads to another and as cinefix said in this list for mad max T2 is also directed like a book. I really hope they' ll put at least one of the scenes in T2 in a future list.
TheWarrior Teddy The mall fight scene tells us: "The T-800 is an ally to John Connor. He's a good guy. The T-1000 is stronger than 800. He's much much much stronger and capable of not only physically overpowering him, but is completely unaffected by guns." The fight at the end is excellent because it is a continuation of the earlier fight. The T-800 knows it can not win, but it still tries to attempt to fulfill its function of protecting Connor. The T-800 is finally now unable to run away and while backed into a corner is forced to fight back against a superior foe who completely beats him. I love that the only way the T-800 is able to win in the end is when the human allies help. Sarah does 90% of the work to nearly finish the T-1000, and the 800 pushes it the rest of the way. I think it's a great way to use the film's themes within the film itself.
In Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, *THOSE* are called "hook swords." When using two, as is typical, the form is known as a "double hook sword form." We teach that at the kung-fu school I'm a part of. EDIT: HAHA! I didn't realize that I answered this very question three years ago.
the other thing about the bourne ultimatum, is that the shaky intensity matches the character of Jason Bourne. he's lost all his memory but can still fight through intuition and muscle memory and the like, there is no thinking ahead, there is just pure instinct. so the "shaky cam" in the bourne movies is actually motivated by something in the story
Lord of the Rings Two Towers bruh... nothing compares to the feeling of hearing the horn of helm hammerhand after Theoden´s speech to Aragon. "Now for wrath, now for ruin, and the red dawn. Forth Eorlingas! " RRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Man... i just love the sound of horns in the Lord of the rings series.
In support of Jackson, his good guys are always trekking from the left of scene to the right. From plodding along to battles. “Our hero’s” are alway in motion, and if they are sent back, it is from right to left. Great stuff.
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Douglas Paulson Uh-huh... sure. It's not like it's been called "voodoo economics" since the days of Reagan. And only a madman could possible think it has anything to do with the massive inequality of our wealth distribution. Oh, wait, none of that's true.
This video helped add a whole new layer of respect for what they did in LOTR. The characters are always central to these big battles and it makes them timeless.
Surprised you didn't include more of the Battle of the Bastards fight. That was the best medieval fighting I've ever seen, and they did it using all the tricks I hate.
What I think was amazing about this episode, is that I was completely sure that Jon Snow won't die and that little finger comes to help them, but the episode convinced me several times that this will be the end of Jon Snow and that little finger won't come! That effect is pretty hard to archive. In fact, when I watched hardhome, I knew that Jon Snow dies in the season finale (because some jerk told me) and still was convinced several times in the episode, that this will be the day of his death. If you know better and still fear about the characters, the director really achieved something (hardhome and Battle of the Bastards have the same director by the way)!
Marco They used shaky cam, but they did it right. They used that trick where the hero stands alone before certain death and is saved at the last possible second (by a cavalry charge we should have heard coming - a lot of horses running full tilt make a hell of a noise AND Jon would have felt them coming, even with all the others in front of him). They showed how much luck there is in a battle, how close Jon came to dying a dozen times and lived only by dumb luck. Everyone that got around him in the early part of the battle died because they were unlucky (i.e. arrow to the head, trampled by horse, etc). Jon's army was saved at the last minute by a hail Mary via another force. The good guy was dominated, from the beginning, by his evil enemy, but still won. The villain shot arrows at him while he held a shield, but never drew a sword like he should have, because the hero needed that moment where he danced with the prospect of murdering his enemy with his bare hands vs. a sword fight. These are all, essentially, tropes of the genre, and they included them all. But they wove them together in a perfect tapestry of a setpiece. So much so we will both be seeing fantasy/medieval battles blatantly ripping this one off for decades to come. A new standard for this kind of setpiece has been set and, mark my words, the industry will take notice. They will mimic, they will outright copy, and, eventually, someone will come along and take it and dial it up to eleven - just like Dan and Dave took the lessons of old regarding these kinds of setpieces and dialed them up to eleven. Really the only trope they DIDN'T include was the rousing horseback speech from Jon before the battle. Which was kind of perfect, because Jon has never been a big speech kind of guy. He's a doer. He'll stand around and explain how a thing is, passionately I grant, and then explain how it needs to go, and then gets shit done. Just like he did before leading the attack on Craster's Keep.
That battle was the least accurate medieval fighting I can think off (somebody say Monty Python And The Holy Grail :D ), everything was wrong. But oh god it was so masterfully done, not just better than any other TV show, but better than many many movies.
2:26 Atomic Blonde does a great job at believable and ever tension increasing consequences to blows dealt to the protagonist! It really keeps you as a viewer invested with the question of if she is still going to make it through even if she may have an enormous and unparalleled fighting skills.
I sometimes think you need to make this a top 10 list because there is no way to do justice with only five. Not complaining, just making an observation. I love your lists, and how intelligently you make and narrate them. Cheers!
I had to put this on pause just to digest everything that was said when explaining the scene from Mad Max. This channel and you folks that narrate these videos, pick the topics, and scenes are simply amazing.
At 1:00 of The Raid that's not Jaka, that's just another member of the SWAT team who was killed during the ambush. Jaka was killed while fighting Mad Dog.
So I showed this to my brother. This was how I messaged him, "Another good one. Save time by listening to 10:57-11:12. I mean the whole thing is good. Also ALSO recognition of Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon. Fighting. Is. Super fun. I'm geekin out over here. OH and they highlight the best fight scene from the Bourne series! Gah this guy knows his stuff and recognizes the things I love."
To me, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon and Mad Max: Fury Road are just two of my favorite movies of all time. They are both masterpieces. And I love the Bourne and LOTR movies.
On the first 10 seconds of this video I was thinking "This list will be shit if they don't include the raid..." and right after that..... BOOM!!!! You guys really can read my mind very well !!! :D
About "Saving Private Ryan." I believe the cinematography is intentionally creating havoc to represent the mad insanity of WWII. This is the world in a complete fugue state, highlighted by Tom Hanks portrayal of Captain Miller when he enters fugue moments on the battlefield. He cannot clearly make out what the soldier on the beach is yelling to him while trying to process the dismemberment of his troops, and the options he is considering as they are picked off one at a time as they may their way to the sand berm on the beach. Shooting this as a perfect choreography would have failed to convey the mad scramble of the moment.
Erik Harker Dredd was good, but The Raid is brilliant action movie. Check out the sequel too - different pacing, more like a martial arts crime saga, but also a must see.
you know you're a dork when THAT scene comes up from lotr and you immediately start vibrating in your seat bc OH MY GOD YES THEY TALKED ABOUT IT CINEMATIC GENIUS (and shoutout to mad maxx bc that too is a fave)
I've rewatched these scenes multiple times. All great pieces of action. Honestly my only add would be Terminator 2's aqueduct chase, or don't harm anyone or the foundry or the night time chase. I can honestly say that these films are action done correctly and Mad Max Fury Road is certainly the best in recent times
I like the madmax scene you showed. It's a good expression of the ''Therefore...but'' concept. It's not thrown at you all at once, although it seems like it, everything is in correlation with one another and create a fluid and self explanatory scene.
I love the pyramid idea for LOTR, but Saving Private Ryan definitely didn't miss any opportunities. The chaos referred to here is completely intentional, in my opinion it is designed to put us in the soldier's perspective. We don't know where the enemies are or where they are flanking from.. but neither does Tom Hanks for that matter.
This is quite late, I know, but I'll just put this out there. The intentional chaos of the editing is more about subjectivity, translating visuals and soundscape into an emotion or feeling that can be experienced. This is why the opening scene from SPR is considered a master class, because the muted audio mixed with the out of focus visuals gave a realistic interpretation of shell-shock. But that's not what this list was about. The action scenes from SPR are a master class in subjectivity, but essentially an antithesis to conventional action scenes. Most action scenes are written to convey story through the choreography, as was displayed in the scenes from this list; whereas in SPR, the action scenes instead convey story through the experience and feel of it. So perhaps the title and overall selection process of this video was a little ambiguous and could be mis-interpreted, but I think that's why the SPR scene was portrayed that way.
I understand it, because the academy never honored a pure action movie, but I'm still sad that George Miller did not get honored! If the academy would have seen this video before, they would have probably gave it to Miller, because they would have seen his brilliance!
The Academy sucks. There are tons of movies that don't get recognition because they're not dramas, political stories or historical retellings. Like Blade Runner / The Thing / ET / Rambo (all released in 1982) that didn't get recognition, but Ghandi won Best Picture that year. Like, wtf? Who has watched Gandhi in the last 20 years?
RosieSquall Although I agree with your comment, I would argue slightly that they don't entirely suck; they did give The French Connection a Best Picture award.
I would've also included the bathhouse fight from Eastern Promises. That whole sequence looks like what would actually happen if two guys attacked another in a sauna.
Two things, 1,Mad Max Fury Road is a work of art. 2, I feel like Peter Jackson just kinda said "fuck it, I don't want to do it but I will, but we wing it if I do it" I love the Hobbit movies but the lack of detail between LOTR and Hobbit is incredibly noticeable. LOTR were works of absolute beauty and are easily some of the greatest movies of all time. The Hobbit can't compare (I understand that the Hobbit is more goofy in the books than LOTR) to that Trilogy, even though I personally loved the Hobbit movies. That's it I don't know what to type next.
I heard that he initially refused to make the Hobbit films, but the studio pushed them through and had basically had them mostly finished before he was brought on to save them from being completely awful. So yeah, basically it was a studio move saying "we're going to make these, and they're going to be horrible if you don't step in to try to save them." That's why they're nowhere near as good as the LOTR movies.
I was really not expecting Bourne vs Desh on your list. But boy is that whole sequence, starting from Bourne jumping in through the window, phenomenal.
Make 5 Brilliant moments of Romance please. It may be a hard one because it's like nobody bothers to put thought into crafting beautiful love stories anymore. The only one that comes to mind for me right now is Disney's "a couple is on a boat and lights are floating around them" they used in The little mermaid and in Tangled.
I believe there may be some brilliance to a romantic scene, but it doesn't necessarily happen *during* the scene. The most important thing about a screen romance is character development: if you don't care about the characters (or you don't think there's any depth to them), you won't care to look at the details of a well-crafted sequence. I've seen scenes where not a single word is said, and very little attention comes to the subjects' body language, and yet the strongest feelings are expressed; and all because of a genuinely good character development.
Álvaro I disagree. Sure character development is crucial to screen romance, but romantic scenes, the best ones anyway, show the viewer exactly how the characters feel about each other. The character development sometimes relies on the romantic scene.
Cinematic Top 10 are you... what? There is nothing brilliant in romantic scenes? Off the top of my head; Drive? Shakespare In Love? Shrek? Sleepless In Seattle? Before Sunrise? Casablanca? And I dont even watch that many romantic movies (ergo some funny examples), but to say theres nothing brilliant on romantic scenes is criminal... Also what Alvaro said could be applied perfectly to the examples in this video, youre describing basic concepts that couldnt be applied to romantic movies because? Why?.... What the hell do you think is a romantic scene? Two people making out? Your shortsightedness baffles me people. (What the hell do you think is an action scene? Two people fighting?) I dont want to sound mean, but your arguments could be used to disqualify any genre and people who disqualify entire genres are annoying, sure you can not like them but thats about it.
Fadhil Ramadhani I think the family or friends bond would be another category entirely. I feel they mostly have very different vibes and are brought to screen differently. But it's a good topic nonetheless.
Pretty sure visually they did like it(especially since it's an episode of a tv series and not the main point of a hollywood movie). But to be honest even though I am the biggest fan of GoT the plot is lacking in season 6 as a consequence of catching up to the books and so was the battle from a tactical standpoint and the episode as a whole.
Recurring to a deus ex machina to let him win the war was a cheap, CHEAP exploit. And not only that, in that massively, onesided, bloody war NON of the main character has been even scratched. Furthermore after a full out war , joh has the stamina for figthing 1 on 1 a siege and then beating Ramsay to a pulp ? Cheap writing.
+MadLaVolpe I think Battle of the Bastards was far from being a well written episode. It was extremely well directed and the cinematography was awe inspiring... However... No deus ex machina took place. Deus ex machina requires that something the show had never established, had never referenced, had never shown to exist suddenly swoops in and saves the day. ...Littlefinger and the Vale army were so painfully obviously built-up to save the day. From the very first moment Littlefinger mentioned it in Mole's Town after Sansa went to see him. Anyone who watches anything semi-regularly realized at that point that there's an entire army that Sansa has on her beck and call and it's certainly going to come into play at some point. Deus ex machina is far too critical of a word for what happened. And what happened was that the writers used the "Just in Time" trope for the second time in the same episode. It was lazy, it was badly written and it deserves criticism. However, calling it deus ex machina is not the criticism it deserves.
It was NOT Deus Ex Machina. No offense to you specifically, but I am really tired of people using that term incorrectly. Deus Ex Machina is "an unexpected power or event saving a seemingly hopeless situation, especially as a contrived plot device in a play or novel.". The knights of the Vale arriving was setup in prior episodes in the season, it is not unexpected. You can say it's convenient, and you don't like it, but it is NOT Deus Ex Machina.
I came here for flat entertainment and got quality education. Thanks for that! You're doing a great job and I'm sure everyone who's interested in movies and cinema appreciates more videos like that!
At the last part about shaky cam, I believe Saving Private Ryan's Omaha Beach scene should replace the Bourne Ultimatum scene. The shaky cam made the action more immersive with the soldiers, explosions, mortar impacts, and characters than it would be with any other camera style while also emphasizing the chaos of the scene. Combined with the lack of sound, it signified the shell-shocked status of Tom Hank's character. While I understand how the latter battle scenes in the movie may have neglected to orient the viewer with the battlefield layout, I expected its opening scene to redeem it with its ability to accurately depict and organize the chaos between two warring armies while also introducing and establishing some of its main protagonists.
Yeah, agreed, to a certain extent. I think the execution of both the beach and last stand scenes were intentional. On the beach, it was a simple 2 sided, omnidirectional attack. It's just as easy to follow for the audience as it was for the soldiers themselves. We keep moving forward. But during the last stand, it was purposefully chaotic and hard to follow because, well, that's how the defenders would probably have felt too. The neighborhood could barely be called that any more. There's more rubble and debris than buildings, supplies are scarce and scattered, and more importantly, the defenders are spread out and completely overwhelmed, both numerically and mentally. The audience's lack of a specific battlefield geometry in some ways echos that of the defenders themselves. It disengages you, helping to create a sense of helplessness in the viewers. We know even less than what the defenders know, so their despair they feel is amplified in us. I never analyses that scene like this before, but I'd like to think that that's Spielburg's intention all those years ago.
Cian Rivera I think the reason he didn’t put SPR instead is because it was handheld cinematography, not shaky cam where it’s purposefully shaky and edited post production
The must watch action movies since 2000 Pure Action : Mad Max , Kill Bill , John Wick , The Raid The Thriller story Action : The Dark night , The Matrix The Mystery story Action : OldBoy (2003)
BotB came out BETWEEN the writing and the editing of the vid. We wanted to shout it out because it's a paragon of everything we were talking about. But we didn't have time to analyze it :/
Best video of cinefix ever.. i mean that is big achievement in itself, but the way the entire length of this video flew by me and in such a flow, that i wanted more by the end.. now i resent myself for always not playing this video from my youtube suggestions due to seeing the 17 minute length... Well done sir!
Half-Life Scientist Ok, there’s a difference between not knowing and not trying to pay attention. Yes, the Taken fights are pretty bad no matter how many details you try to pay attention, but if you paid attention, they have good choreography and they have good film technique within the quicker shots. I’m all right with someone not being able to handle quicker editing just because it’s them and they get more headaches, but often times I feel people are just criticizing it as poor technique just because it is that kind of fight, without thinking about any chance that they have done it well.
@@raivo_4447 That's not true at all. In the scene mentioned in the video, there's a very specific series of events that happen: guy grabs knife, bourne grabs towel, wraps arm wielding knife, disarms guy, bashes head into wall, gets thrown into shower. It's all linear, it all makes sense in continuity and in the physical space, and all of that is possible because of the choreography. And I haven't seen the Bourne movies in a while but I remember that being the case with all of the fight scenes. Yes, the camera is shaky and the cuts are fast, but it's not just- fight starts, chaos ensues, fight ends, somebody lost. There's a linear set of events that make sense in physical space, there's an arc of tension and relief, and there are lots of miniature examples of problems arising (guy gets knife), and counters (bourne grabs towel) that are all made possible by brilliant choreography.
@@nickcoronado898 The Bourne movies basically introduced Hollywood to the shaky cam fight scene. Problem is, Hollywood saw a shooting technique to make lame fights look pseudo-awesomer, when in reality it was intended as a stylistic device strictly to be used on awesome fights to ramp up the pressure the viewer is under while watching it.
So well said about Mad Max: Fury Road. That movie is much more than just action. It's chock full off incredibly smart moments, visual storytelling, callbacks and character moments. One of the greatest action movies of all time, one of the greatest films of the 21st century.
This is easily my favorite new channel on UA-cam I’m only sad that I’m just now discovering it I can’t stop watching all of this brilliant insight into the movies that I love and the reasons why I love them!
Theres a scene in "hero" where two guys choreograph a fight in their minds. Its shot in black and white and with rain for dramatic purposes. Thats my fav
Much props for helping me articulate the reasons why I love 4 out these 5 movies (the Raid movies are on my list) Mad Max was far an away my favorite movie of 2015 (a feat made more impressive when considered how hampered it was by a generically mediocre plot and the amateur acting from everyone not named Tom Hardy and Charlize Theron), Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon along with the Grandmasters are my untoppable wuxia classics, Two Towers is in my Top 25 films of all time (with Helm's Deep being my favorite ever battle scene), the storytelling/fight scenes of Bourne Supremacy and Bourne Ultimatum (the latter of which a marvel in that it told a comprehensible story with the absolute minimum amount of moving parts and maximum rawness) are some of my favorite fight scenes ever and The Raid movies are top 30 on my To Watch List. Just sayin' I also call movies, films. Bite me.
The Bourne Vs. Desh fight is amazing, but what's even more amazing is the build up, the way the camera follows Bourne and shows the danger getting closer and closer to the other target right up untill the moment where the fight begins and then the music disapears, and it's just pure brutality.
I feel like Cinefix puts so much more effort into their lists when compared to other channels, like you can tell they know their shit
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Cough cough, SCREENRANT cough cough
AGREED. SO GOOD.
Tyler Williams lay offs when?
That happened at about the end of 2015. 8-Bit Cinema, Film-Schooled, Art of the Scene and Homemade Trailers are among many featured shows that were scraped since then. Thank God they kept the lists coming.
In Saving Private Ryan's defense, I'd say that for realism, the chaos of the battle scenes IS the whole idea. An 18 year old soldier scared shitless literally HAS no idea what is going on around him, and Spielberg wanted to transfer some of that to the audience.
But they weren't filming it from just an 18 year old soldier's point of view. They were filming it from several character's.
Shane Benjamson Yeah, ALL of which were scared shitless.
Brian Merritt But there's this thing: it's okay to capture confusion, and yeah if a tank came from behind them almost out of nowhere I'd be okay if it actually made sense when you think about it. But it doesn't.
It is still one of my favorite movies, though.
Shane Benjamson I honestly have no idea what that run-on sentence is supposed to say.
It's not supposed to make sense. The tank was a surprise, just like it would be to them in reality. You can't always make sense of things during a battle.
The way he was describing the mad max scene had me cracking up!!! From Steve Austin to Lindsay lohan and baby momma
dude when he said andre the giant i just lost it
Ridiculous, Where the hell STEVE AUSTIN and LINDSAY LOHAN came from in MAD MAX FURY ROAD.
I chuckled out loud
@@kane666 Me too.
God, I love Mad Max: Fury Road so much.
Same, I'm not even that into action movies and I still loved it. A movie that's almost entirely action. It's just done that well
I would like to see a Marvel treatment of Mad Max!!!!!
after finishing this video, I'll watch that beauty in bluray
Hell yeah, Amazing Filmmaking.
Right. So the dude strapped to the front of a truck playing 'flame-thrower electric guitar', for no apparent reason, did not make you think "Oh, I am watching something very stupid"? No? OK. That was the lamest thing I've seen in recent years, apart from all the Captain America/Marvel comic shit that has taken over. I guess people really are just stupid, and want to see flaming guitars and bullshit like that, because Fuck Yeah!
Okay, I get it, I should go watch Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon.
I mean it's an incredible movie
I just watched it, and I must say bravo to all involved. I literally just watched the crouching tiger part of this video.
It is in my top 5 of all time!! Should have won best pic over gladiaor at the oscars!
Dude, it is really good- the whole thing...
Aye, can anyone recommend me movies similar to crouching tiger ? Thanks in advance 🙂
That train fight from SPIDER-MAN 2 was incredible. Constantly dynamic, but so easy to follow, and allows the two actors to show their skills without it interrupting the action.
True, one of my favorite superhero action sequences.
Yup! Agree.
Dangit Cinefix I was about to go to bed.
Same
Story of my life
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i second that! 100%
Sleep is for the weak. :D
The fight scene with Furiosa and Max with Nux chained to his muzzle with a car door in between them is one of the greatest fight scenes in all of movie history. It is so perfectly paced and visually stunning throughout. The cinematography isn't shaky-cam BS and shows so much so quickly without becoming nauseating. The dynamic between Max, Furiosa, Nux, the muzzle, chain and car door, Joe's wives, and even the War Rig (water hose, hidden gun in plastered skull, etc) are so brilliantly put at odds with each other in a way that conveys so much character and depth into just one action sequence is breath-taking.
I've seen it over 40 times and it hasn't gotten old. Simply amazing. George Miller is a genius, and I love him, lol!
I'm happy to see Lord of the Rings get the credit it so richly deserves.
the raid : redemption is a brilliant underrated film
It is a great action movie.
Great vid as always! I do think the hallway fight from Oldboy should be on here though!
Yesyesyesyesyes
Looks like comic book shit, thought
GayDicks420 what?
Because Oldboy is an adaptation of a Japanese Manga, that's why!
On a side note, Snowpiercer is also a graphic novel adaptation, and the source material is French.
+Daxuran Oldboy is full of great moments but my favourite was the climax
I found the Children of Men scene when go into building to rescue the baby the most compelling and original action sequence I've ever seen, particularly because the character does without ever using a weapon or harming someone. I also think the final street battle in Yojimbo with long shots, cartoonish character or villains and all the tension lending up to it is my single favorite.
The final action sequence in Children of Men when they go first person thru the refugee city is absolutely brilliant.
Troy? Achilles vs Hector was perhaps the most beautifully choreographed fight scene i've ever seen.
I also really liked the opening fight scene in Troy. The sheer simplicity and speed of Achilles killing the big bald guy really took me by surprise.
"Olympic Torch McGorch"... pure gold, love it!
I'm not going to scour the comments section for comments like this one, but I would like to say that the bit about the pyramid was one of the most clearly communicated and obviously well-understood things I've ever had explained to me, and one of the many reason why I think CineFix is the best channel on youtube.
Keep doing what you do, guys.
so glad you included the bourne fight at the end there. that whole chase sequence leading up to the fight between bourne and desh is awesome as well
crouching tiger has the best action sequences choreography of all time...i can't take my eyes off for a milisecond...too epic to miss!
when a bunch of pro movie analysts and reviewers hang out, they make stuff like this.. that is the bottom line of CineFix is.. top notch.. 👍👍👏👏
I’m really glad you mentioned that Bourne Ultimatum fight scene - I’ve always thought it’s one of the best I’ve ever seen, but the quick cutting always made me think I should look down on it. Glad it’s also appreciated by someone like you guys!
I guess I HAVE to see crouching tiger, hidden dragon now. That looked amazing
It is!
Also Hero, if you haven't seen it.
That swordfight is a work of art.
It's good but overrated imo.
One of my all time faves. I saw it in theaters when it came out in... 2001 I think?... and I own it and watch it regularly. At the time, that form of action had been dormant for a long time. Having been raised on Bruce Lee and other martial arts movies of the 70’s, CTHD was like a modernized breath of fresh air.
this was a quality top 5, breaks down, pros cons etc, etc, subbed.
I guess you don't do TV/netflix in these lists, which is fair enough. But that hallway fight in Daredevil season 1 was an amazing example of choreography and action being perfectly tied to the plot and themes of that particular episode. That's why it worked so well!!
I think it was given a nod in a previous list
That scene was a great mix of some The Raid's non-stop brutality and fighting, and the tracking and realism of Oldboy's hallway fight. Cool stuff
OKay. Since every time that hallway scene in Daredevil is mentioned the hallways shot of Oldboy is brought up, can I ask you; do you think the Daredevil scene deserves a mention over the Oldboy one?
Season 2 somehow manages to top that...that stairwell scene in season 2 absolutely blew me away.
Banshee fights > Daredevil fights
5 Brilliant Moments in Horror?
I'd definitely watch that.
If they do make that, I expect to see at least one moment from The Thing, make it on the list.
yes!
Hell yeah! Do it for Halloween guys!
hell yes.
This should be shown in film school and media classes. The Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon section isn't teaching me anything I didn't already surmise for myself, but the rest really got me thinking about the artistry behind an action scene. Cheers, guys. :)
I love the way Fury Road was shot, the next cuts focus is where your eyes were on the previous one. You're not constantly scanning the screen to find the action. Amazing work
Did anyone else notice the Second "N" in the Word "Unranked" was bolded because in the previous video, there was a typo in the title card where it said "Unraked?" Nice touch, CineFix. Nice touch.
one of my favorite action sequences isn't even from a movie, it's the hallway fight scene from the second episode of Daredevil... the fact that the director keeps that entire fight engaging despite it consisting of a single long camera shot of a hallway is a testament to excellent choreography
Yes! That blew my mind. I remember thinking, 'I can't believe this is a TV show!' vs a movie.
Yeah, no doubt. The director was cooking!!
When you were talking about Saving Private Ryan, isn't that the point of the movie? The battlefield is chaotic. When you're fighting a war, there's so much chaos it's hard to know what is happening and why it's happening. It just is and you need to adjust to it.
Absolutely.
We weren't attempting to criticize SPR in the sense that what it did was WRONG or BAD, we were just trying to point out that the decisions that were made in that scene did not provide the same level of top-down clarity.
These lists are all about non-judgment :) We're more interested in HOW it works than how GOOD it is.
especially urban warfare, earlier in the movie we have the straightforward one side is one army the other side is the other army with normandy but in the finale the armies are mixed in the between the buildings
Honestly I think almost all of Saving Private Ryan's set pieces could be on this list. One of my favorite little sequences is the mexican standoff when the brick wall falls down.
What bugged me most about SPR, the characters. They take some unit to pull a guy off the line, fine. In reality, they pulled him even before he dropped, but whatever. But a Rangers' captain on the edge of collapse isn't a great guy for a special mission. And some of his men don't act like proper soldiers either. But what do I know, I'm a bloody civillian who never was in a battle.
I liked the camerawork, though. And that it made money to make Band of Brothers, which is the shit.
***** I'm sorry I confused about your statement. especially the part about the "They take some unit to pull a guy off the line, fine. In reality, they pulled him even before he dropped". Might be a translation thing.
So glad you included Two Towers .. that entire movie is PERFECTION in how it all drives to that one battle - and then the battle itself pays off. You know where every single shot happens because he has set everything up perfectly. We know where the characters are at all times. We're never lost.. not for one moment. In any given shot, if a character looks off screen, we know EXACTLY where he is looking. It's perfection.
This narrator deserves a raise. He clearly states all off his points while keeping my focus! Brilliant!
Some of my favorites action sequences in film>>
Truck flip & batbike stop in TDK, Jackie's Drunken Master II fight, John Wick's Club shootout, Rock's final showdown vs. goons in WTJ , Hallway fight scene Christian Bale vs. soldiers in Equilibrium, Truck top fighting & motor cycle chase in Matrix II and Transporter III bicycle vs. car chase..
The truck chase or from T2 or the T-800 vs T-1000 fight scene at the end should be on this list
I actually think the fight scene in the mall near the start of T2 is also really exceptional. I think it teaches us so much about the story and also about our villain.
I agree that the bike/truck chase scene is really excellently directed.
It'll probably be on the next one. It seems this "5 Brilliant Moments" is becoming a new series and honestly so excited because these videos are just absolutely fucking excellent.
Kujakuseki01 I think the fight scene in the end also is greatly directed. Every hit matters and the camera movement, the lighting is perfect. James Cameron is in my opinion the master of great story structure, every scene leads to another and as cinefix said in this list for mad max T2 is also directed like a book. I really hope they' ll put at least one of the scenes in T2 in a future list.
TheWarrior Teddy The mall fight scene tells us: "The T-800 is an ally to John Connor. He's a good guy. The T-1000 is stronger than 800. He's much much much stronger and capable of not only physically overpowering him, but is completely unaffected by guns."
The fight at the end is excellent because it is a continuation of the earlier fight. The T-800 knows it can not win, but it still tries to attempt to fulfill its function of protecting Connor. The T-800 is finally now unable to run away and while backed into a corner is forced to fight back against a superior foe who completely beats him.
I love that the only way the T-800 is able to win in the end is when the human allies help. Sarah does 90% of the work to nearly finish the T-1000, and the 800 pushes it the rest of the way. I think it's a great way to use the film's themes within the film itself.
T2 should be on this list period.
the game of thrones diss was well deserved!
that fight in Coruching Tiger is breathtaking. even after all these years nothing really can compare to it
You know, this is why Cinefix is my favorite channel on UA-cam.
In Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, *THOSE* are called "hook swords." When using two, as is typical, the form is known as a "double hook sword form." We teach that at the kung-fu school I'm a part of.
EDIT: HAHA! I didn't realize that I answered this very question three years ago.
the other thing about the bourne ultimatum, is that the shaky intensity matches the character of Jason Bourne. he's lost all his memory but can still fight through intuition and muscle memory and the like, there is no thinking ahead, there is just pure instinct. so the "shaky cam" in the bourne movies is actually motivated by something in the story
Lord of the Rings Two Towers bruh... nothing compares to the feeling of hearing the horn of helm hammerhand after Theoden´s speech to Aragon.
"Now for wrath, now for ruin, and the red dawn. Forth Eorlingas! "
RRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Man... i just love the sound of horns in the Lord of the rings series.
fuck I am crying
Literally just got tingles running down my spine remembering that scene exactly.
dude, i get SO riled from this shit. you make me appreciate being young, still breathing, alive. thank you, cinefix.
In support of Jackson, his good guys are always trekking from the left of scene to the right. From plodding along to battles. “Our hero’s” are alway in motion, and if they are sent back, it is from right to left.
Great stuff.
The difference between Trickle-Down Action and Trickle-Down Economics is Trickle-Down Action actually works.
You mean feeding money to rich people while letting working class people starve isnt a sound economic theory???
Nah, it's building a steel-factory in the middle of a primitive african village (for example)
You are currently benefitting from trickle down economocs with you computer that can show video, sound, and send/receive messages without it costing a million bucks and it being the size of a house.
Douglas Paulson Uh-huh... sure. It's not like it's been called "voodoo economics" since the days of Reagan. And only a madman could possible think it has anything to do with the massive inequality of our wealth distribution.
Oh, wait, none of that's true.
Just A Dude Name a single unfree market that has the production power and product quality as a free market.
The Raid 1 & 2 is the best action movie ever..
Wow!!
I'm beginning a new career in Storyboarding and this Helps a lot.
Didn't realize how important the small details are until now.
thanks.
This video helped add a whole new layer of respect for what they did in LOTR. The characters are always central to these big battles and it makes them timeless.
This is BY FAR my favorite Cinefix video, as it doesn't piss me right the eff off. 5 insanely good choices. The best.
Surprised you didn't include more of the Battle of the Bastards fight. That was the best medieval fighting I've ever seen, and they did it using all the tricks I hate.
Totally agree. I actually like it more than any battle Jackson did with Lord of the Rings
What I think was amazing about this episode, is that I was completely sure that Jon Snow won't die and that little finger comes to help them, but the episode convinced me several times that this will be the end of Jon Snow and that little finger won't come! That effect is pretty hard to archive. In fact, when I watched hardhome, I knew that Jon Snow dies in the season finale (because some jerk told me) and still was convinced several times in the episode, that this will be the day of his death. If you know better and still fear about the characters, the director really achieved something (hardhome and Battle of the Bastards have the same director by the way)!
Helms Deep >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Battle of the Bastards
Marco They used shaky cam, but they did it right. They used that trick where the hero stands alone before certain death and is saved at the last possible second (by a cavalry charge we should have heard coming - a lot of horses running full tilt make a hell of a noise AND Jon would have felt them coming, even with all the others in front of him). They showed how much luck there is in a battle, how close Jon came to dying a dozen times and lived only by dumb luck. Everyone that got around him in the early part of the battle died because they were unlucky (i.e. arrow to the head, trampled by horse, etc). Jon's army was saved at the last minute by a hail Mary via another force. The good guy was dominated, from the beginning, by his evil enemy, but still won. The villain shot arrows at him while he held a shield, but never drew a sword like he should have, because the hero needed that moment where he danced with the prospect of murdering his enemy with his bare hands vs. a sword fight.
These are all, essentially, tropes of the genre, and they included them all. But they wove them together in a perfect tapestry of a setpiece. So much so we will both be seeing fantasy/medieval battles blatantly ripping this one off for decades to come. A new standard for this kind of setpiece has been set and, mark my words, the industry will take notice. They will mimic, they will outright copy, and, eventually, someone will come along and take it and dial it up to eleven - just like Dan and Dave took the lessons of old regarding these kinds of setpieces and dialed them up to eleven.
Really the only trope they DIDN'T include was the rousing horseback speech from Jon before the battle. Which was kind of perfect, because Jon has never been a big speech kind of guy. He's a doer. He'll stand around and explain how a thing is, passionately I grant, and then explain how it needs to go, and then gets shit done. Just like he did before leading the attack on Craster's Keep.
That battle was the least accurate medieval fighting I can think off (somebody say Monty Python And The Holy Grail :D ), everything was wrong.
But oh god it was so masterfully done, not just better than any other TV show, but better than many many movies.
2:26 Atomic Blonde does a great job at believable and ever tension increasing consequences to blows dealt to the protagonist! It really keeps you as a viewer invested with the question of if she is still going to make it through even if she may have an enormous and unparalleled fighting skills.
I sometimes think you need to make this a top 10 list because there is no way to do justice with only five. Not complaining, just making an observation. I love your lists, and how intelligently you make and narrate them. Cheers!
That's crazy! I thought WAY more was going on when I first saw that Mad Max chase sequence. It's insane how simple that scene really is.
I had to put this on pause just to digest everything that was said when explaining the scene from Mad Max. This channel and you folks that narrate these videos, pick the topics, and scenes are simply amazing.
I didn't know I needed this, but boy, now I know.
the raid was so good!
At 1:00 of The Raid that's not Jaka, that's just another member of the SWAT team who was killed during the ambush. Jaka was killed while fighting Mad Dog.
So I showed this to my brother. This was how I messaged him, "Another good one. Save time by listening to 10:57-11:12. I mean the whole thing is good. Also ALSO recognition of Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon. Fighting. Is. Super fun. I'm geekin out over here. OH and they highlight the best fight scene from the Bourne series! Gah this guy knows his stuff and recognizes the things I love."
To me, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon and Mad Max: Fury Road are just two of my favorite movies of all time. They are both masterpieces.
And I love the Bourne and LOTR movies.
Yes, you guys are genius. This is Original, not carelessly made. I just never skip the ads to support you guys! keep it going!
On the first 10 seconds of this video I was thinking "This list will be shit if they don't include the raid..." and right after that..... BOOM!!!!
You guys really can read my mind very well !!! :D
Or it's just really obvious?
Hah!!!
About "Saving Private Ryan." I believe the cinematography is intentionally creating havoc to represent the mad insanity of WWII. This is the world in a complete fugue state, highlighted by Tom Hanks portrayal of Captain Miller when he enters fugue moments on the battlefield. He cannot clearly make out what the soldier on the beach is yelling to him while trying to process the dismemberment of his troops, and the options he is considering as they are picked off one at a time as they may their way to the sand berm on the beach. Shooting this as a perfect choreography would have failed to convey the mad scramble of the moment.
CineFix please bring back this series/ format of videos!! I lived for these and I miss them so much!!
Oh my god! That's the best movie channel on youtube!!!!!!
This is so freaking awesome! Congratulations, people! Great work, awesome lists!
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Shit > Watchmojo
Nah watchmojo is basic class, then you graduate to whatculture, then on to cinefix. When it gets to complex, I go back to watchmojo.
Literally anything > watchmojo
@@justbaggish This is far too accurate. Legit the exact path I took.
Good grief I heard Dredd was basically The Raid but wow. I have to watch The Raid sometime.
Erik Harker Dredd was good, but The Raid is brilliant action movie. Check out the sequel too - different pacing, more like a martial arts crime saga, but also a must see.
Watch raid 1 and 2 if you haven't
You WONT be disappointed
Did you saw the raid?
Among the Best movies honestly
I really liked Dredd, but The Raid is a masterpiece
I love the Raid.
Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, wow, thank you, thank you, that is one emotional fight scene. Incredible.
you know you're a dork when THAT scene comes up from lotr and you immediately start vibrating in your seat bc OH MY GOD YES THEY TALKED ABOUT IT CINEMATIC GENIUS
(and shoutout to mad maxx bc that too is a fave)
I was expecting Inception rotating hallway scene but these r all so good idk which one I would swap it with.
The Raid, simple yet brilliant!
Fucking FINALLY a new Cinefix list. And 17 minutes holy shit yes
I've rewatched these scenes multiple times. All great pieces of action. Honestly my only add would be Terminator 2's aqueduct chase, or don't harm anyone or the foundry or the night time chase. I can honestly say that these films are action done correctly and Mad Max Fury Road is certainly the best in recent times
I like the madmax scene you showed. It's a good expression of the ''Therefore...but'' concept. It's not thrown at you all at once, although it seems like it, everything is in correlation with one another and create a fluid and self explanatory scene.
I love the pyramid idea for LOTR, but Saving Private Ryan definitely didn't miss any opportunities. The chaos referred to here is completely intentional, in my opinion it is designed to put us in the soldier's perspective. We don't know where the enemies are or where they are flanking from.. but neither does Tom Hanks for that matter.
Having said that, I love these lists. Cinefix definitely knows what they're talking about and know how to do their research.
This is quite late, I know, but I'll just put this out there. The intentional chaos of the editing is more about subjectivity, translating visuals and soundscape into an emotion or feeling that can be experienced. This is why the opening scene from SPR is considered a master class, because the muted audio mixed with the out of focus visuals gave a realistic interpretation of shell-shock. But that's not what this list was about. The action scenes from SPR are a master class in subjectivity, but essentially an antithesis to conventional action scenes. Most action scenes are written to convey story through the choreography, as was displayed in the scenes from this list; whereas in SPR, the action scenes instead convey story through the experience and feel of it.
So perhaps the title and overall selection process of this video was a little ambiguous and could be mis-interpreted, but I think that's why the SPR scene was portrayed that way.
More of these lists please, do one for comedy,drama, romance......just do more
Olympic torch-magorch. The best.
The shaky cam in the Bourne movies also helps convey the frantic intense nature of the action and the andrenaline he feels
That Crouching Tiger analysis is beautiful. Wow. Wow. Wow!
So sad Mad Max didn't get best picture.
Or at least best director
I understand it, because the academy never honored a pure action movie, but I'm still sad that George Miller did not get honored! If the academy would have seen this video before, they would have probably gave it to Miller, because they would have seen his brilliance!
The Academy sucks. There are tons of movies that don't get recognition because they're not dramas, political stories or historical retellings. Like Blade Runner / The Thing / ET / Rambo (all released in 1982) that didn't get recognition, but Ghandi won Best Picture that year. Like, wtf? Who has watched Gandhi in the last 20 years?
RosieSquall Although I agree with your comment, I would argue slightly that they don't entirely suck; they did give The French Connection a Best Picture award.
+Cinemaspire true, but there are tons of movies out there that deserve recognition, but got none since the Academy doesn't really take risks.
I would've also included the bathhouse fight from Eastern Promises. That whole sequence looks like what would actually happen if two guys attacked another in a sauna.
That sequence was amazing. Great fight
Two things, 1,Mad Max Fury Road is a work of art. 2, I feel like Peter Jackson just kinda said "fuck it, I don't want to do it but I will, but we wing it if I do it" I love the Hobbit movies but the lack of detail between LOTR and Hobbit is incredibly noticeable. LOTR were works of absolute beauty and are easily some of the greatest movies of all time. The Hobbit can't compare (I understand that the Hobbit is more goofy in the books than LOTR) to that Trilogy, even though I personally loved the Hobbit movies. That's it I don't know what to type next.
Also 15:03, duckface
I heard that he initially refused to make the Hobbit films, but the studio pushed them through and had basically had them mostly finished before he was brought on to save them from being completely awful. So yeah, basically it was a studio move saying "we're going to make these, and they're going to be horrible if you don't step in to try to save them."
That's why they're nowhere near as good as the LOTR movies.
Michael Harris I don't think they're bad, just not as good.
I don't really think they're good...But I understand liking them.
That scene where Benedict Cumberland is chasing the hobbit around in his uncle scrooge mountain of gold saved the whole movie
I was really not expecting Bourne vs Desh on your list. But boy is that whole sequence, starting from Bourne jumping in through the window, phenomenal.
This is one of the best UA-cam videos I've ever watched.
Make 5 Brilliant moments of Romance please. It may be a hard one because it's like nobody bothers to put thought into crafting beautiful love stories anymore. The only one that comes to mind for me right now is Disney's "a couple is on a boat and lights are floating around them" they used in The little mermaid and in Tangled.
I believe there may be some brilliance to a romantic scene, but it doesn't necessarily happen *during* the scene. The most important thing about a screen romance is character development: if you don't care about the characters (or you don't think there's any depth to them), you won't care to look at the details of a well-crafted sequence. I've seen scenes where not a single word is said, and very little attention comes to the subjects' body language, and yet the strongest feelings are expressed; and all because of a genuinely good character development.
Álvaro I disagree. Sure character development is crucial to screen romance, but romantic scenes, the best ones anyway, show the viewer exactly how the characters feel about each other. The character development sometimes relies on the romantic scene.
Cinematic Top 10 are you... what? There is nothing brilliant in romantic scenes?
Off the top of my head; Drive? Shakespare In Love? Shrek? Sleepless In Seattle? Before Sunrise? Casablanca?
And I dont even watch that many romantic movies (ergo some funny examples), but to say theres nothing brilliant on romantic scenes is criminal...
Also what Alvaro said could be applied perfectly to the examples in this video, youre describing basic concepts that couldnt be applied to romantic movies because? Why?.... What the hell do you think is a romantic scene? Two people making out? Your shortsightedness baffles me people.
(What the hell do you think is an action scene? Two people fighting?)
I dont want to sound mean, but your arguments could be used to disqualify any genre and people who disqualify entire genres are annoying, sure you can not like them but thats about it.
Oh yes, and it can also be not only about "romance" in the traditional sense, but also love for your family, friends, pets, etc.
Fadhil Ramadhani I think the family or friends bond would be another category entirely. I feel they mostly have very different vibes and are brought to screen differently. But it's a good topic nonetheless.
did you guys at cinefix liked the battle of the bastards?
Pretty sure visually they did like it(especially since it's an episode of a tv series and not the main point of a hollywood movie). But to be honest even though I am the biggest fan of GoT the plot is lacking in season 6 as a consequence of catching up to the books and so was the battle from a tactical standpoint and the episode as a whole.
Recurring to a deus ex machina to let him win the war was a cheap, CHEAP exploit.
And not only that, in that massively, onesided, bloody war NON of the main character has been even scratched.
Furthermore after a full out war , joh has the stamina for figthing 1 on 1 a siege and then beating Ramsay to a pulp ?
Cheap writing.
+MadLaVolpe john and his squad were chosen by the lord of light.
+MadLaVolpe I think Battle of the Bastards was far from being a well written episode. It was extremely well directed and the cinematography was awe inspiring... However... No deus ex machina took place. Deus ex machina requires that something the show had never established, had never referenced, had never shown to exist suddenly swoops in and saves the day.
...Littlefinger and the Vale army were so painfully obviously built-up to save the day. From the very first moment Littlefinger mentioned it in Mole's Town after Sansa went to see him. Anyone who watches anything semi-regularly realized at that point that there's an entire army that Sansa has on her beck and call and it's certainly going to come into play at some point. Deus ex machina is far too critical of a word for what happened. And what happened was that the writers used the "Just in Time" trope for the second time in the same episode. It was lazy, it was badly written and it deserves criticism. However, calling it deus ex machina is not the criticism it deserves.
It was NOT Deus Ex Machina. No offense to you specifically, but I am really tired of people using that term incorrectly. Deus Ex Machina is "an unexpected power or event saving a seemingly hopeless situation, especially as a contrived plot device in a play or novel.". The knights of the Vale arriving was setup in prior episodes in the season, it is not unexpected. You can say it's convenient, and you don't like it, but it is NOT Deus Ex Machina.
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At the last part about shaky cam, I believe Saving Private Ryan's Omaha Beach scene should replace the Bourne Ultimatum scene. The shaky cam made the action more immersive with the soldiers, explosions, mortar impacts, and characters than it would be with any other camera style while also emphasizing the chaos of the scene. Combined with the lack of sound, it signified the shell-shocked status of Tom Hank's character. While I understand how the latter battle scenes in the movie may have neglected to orient the viewer with the battlefield layout, I expected its opening scene to redeem it with its ability to accurately depict and organize the chaos between two warring armies while also introducing and establishing some of its main protagonists.
Yeah, agreed, to a certain extent.
I think the execution of both the beach and last stand scenes were intentional. On the beach, it was a simple 2 sided, omnidirectional attack. It's just as easy to follow for the audience as it was for the soldiers themselves. We keep moving forward.
But during the last stand, it was purposefully chaotic and hard to follow because, well, that's how the defenders would probably have felt too. The neighborhood could barely be called that any more. There's more rubble and debris than buildings, supplies are scarce and scattered, and more importantly, the defenders are spread out and completely overwhelmed, both numerically and mentally. The audience's lack of a specific battlefield geometry in some ways echos that of the defenders themselves. It disengages you, helping to create a sense of helplessness in the viewers. We know even less than what the defenders know, so their despair they feel is amplified in us. I never analyses that scene like this before, but I'd like to think that that's Spielburg's intention all those years ago.
Cian Rivera I think the reason he didn’t put SPR instead is because it was handheld cinematography, not shaky cam where it’s purposefully shaky and edited post production
Without a battlefield layout? Sometimes it's vital, sometimes not.
The must watch action movies since 2000
Pure Action : Mad Max , Kill Bill , John Wick , The Raid
The Thriller story Action : The Dark night , The Matrix
The Mystery story Action : OldBoy (2003)
Old boy I felt like I had been kicked into the gut
battle of the bastards and hardhome from GoT should get a mention
12:26 and 12:29
Well, by cutting to BotB in the video, I suppose that counts as mentioning it.
BotB came out BETWEEN the writing and the editing of the vid.
We wanted to shout it out because it's a paragon of everything we were talking about. But we didn't have time to analyze it :/
***** I've seen you around comment threads here too. I'm assuming you work in the writing of these videos?
Busted!
Best video of cinefix ever.. i mean that is big achievement in itself, but the way the entire length of this video flew by me and in such a flow, that i wanted more by the end.. now i resent myself for always not playing this video from my youtube suggestions due to seeing the 17 minute length... Well done sir!
that Ip Man fight was legendary.
I rewatch that scene at least once a viewing.
"Stone Cold Steve Austin"
Did you guys write that knowing full well that Nathan Jones was a pro-wrestler?
And he's not firing a torpedo, it was a harpoon
I love his pop culture references
And that was not Austin
He knew, he also threw Lindsey Lohan out there for good measure
the whole battle of the bastards war should be on the top of this list
is there a cinefix for series?
***** because it was amazingly shot
that battle was better then any of these scenes combined
***** why do i have to explain all my opinions
***** we aren't having an argument im saying something and then you ask how or why
I had no idea what was happening in the jason bourne action scene... all i knew was that they were fighting...
kbg12ila I had no idea what was happening in any of the fist fights in any of the Bourne films aside from the first one
Half-Life Scientist Ok, there’s a difference between not knowing and not trying to pay attention. Yes, the Taken fights are pretty bad no matter how many details you try to pay attention, but if you paid attention, they have good choreography and they have good film technique within the quicker shots. I’m all right with someone not being able to handle quicker editing just because it’s them and they get more headaches, but often times I feel people are just criticizing it as poor technique just because it is that kind of fight, without thinking about any chance that they have done it well.
The FirstBourne Yeah but that choreography gets thrown out the window when the cameraman starts violently shaking the camera.
@@raivo_4447 That's not true at all. In the scene mentioned in the video, there's a very specific series of events that happen: guy grabs knife, bourne grabs towel, wraps arm wielding knife, disarms guy, bashes head into wall, gets thrown into shower. It's all linear, it all makes sense in continuity and in the physical space, and all of that is possible because of the choreography.
And I haven't seen the Bourne movies in a while but I remember that being the case with all of the fight scenes. Yes, the camera is shaky and the cuts are fast, but it's not just- fight starts, chaos ensues, fight ends, somebody lost. There's a linear set of events that make sense in physical space, there's an arc of tension and relief, and there are lots of miniature examples of problems arising (guy gets knife), and counters (bourne grabs towel) that are all made possible by brilliant choreography.
@@nickcoronado898 The Bourne movies basically introduced Hollywood to the shaky cam fight scene. Problem is, Hollywood saw a shooting technique to make lame fights look pseudo-awesomer, when in reality it was intended as a stylistic device strictly to be used on awesome fights to ramp up the pressure the viewer is under while watching it.
So well said about Mad Max: Fury Road.
That movie is much more than just action.
It's chock full off incredibly smart moments, visual storytelling, callbacks and character moments.
One of the greatest action movies of all time, one of the greatest films of the 21st century.
This is easily my favorite new channel on UA-cam I’m only sad that I’m just now discovering it I can’t stop watching all of this brilliant insight into the movies that I love and the reasons why I love them!
Theres a scene in "hero" where two guys choreograph a fight in their minds. Its shot in black and white and with rain for dramatic purposes. Thats my fav
It was between jet li and donnie yen btw.
People should talk more about hero. Such an incredible film
It's mentioned in a previous video they've done.
Damn! the one time Legolas didn't get a one shot kill lol
Much props for helping me articulate the reasons why I love 4 out these 5 movies (the Raid movies are on my list)
Mad Max was far an away my favorite movie of 2015 (a feat made more impressive when considered how hampered it was by a generically mediocre plot and the amateur acting from everyone not named Tom Hardy and Charlize Theron), Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon along with the Grandmasters are my untoppable wuxia classics, Two Towers is in my Top 25 films of all time (with Helm's Deep being my favorite ever battle scene), the storytelling/fight scenes of Bourne Supremacy and Bourne Ultimatum (the latter of which a marvel in that it told a comprehensible story with the absolute minimum amount of moving parts and maximum rawness) are some of my favorite fight scenes ever and The Raid movies are top 30 on my To Watch List.
Just sayin'
I also call movies, films. Bite me.
So rebellious!
All your videos are so insightful. As a layman I enjoy all the films, and it is so nice to know why I enjoy them so much. Thank you
The Bourne Vs. Desh fight is amazing, but what's even more amazing is the build up, the way the camera follows Bourne and shows the danger getting closer and closer to the other target right up untill the moment where the fight begins and then the music disapears, and it's just pure brutality.