I found an HDMI capture card in a local store that looks exactly like the one recommended in my Guermok video but at a lower price and with a different logo. Unfortunately, it turned out to be USB 2.0 (it was sold as 3.0) and it works much worst than card which I use all the time. So I'll have to order it from abroad directly from the auction I mentioned in the video.
That’s a great solution. I have a different approach but the device for it is still on the way to me, but will write about it when the device arrives. It might be a simpler solution for all this, but I have to check first.
I would gladly read about other possibilities. In the past I considered connecting a Raspberry Pi or something similar because, for example, Netflix through the browser has an option for watching together with other people, but DRM streaming in a browser always disappointed me with its quality which is worse than via Apple TV for unknown reasons to me. However, bypassing DRM by turning off acceleration is terribly power-consuming so Fire TV stick It seemed like the best option to me, but if there is a way to improve it further, I would be happy to do an upgrade.
@@Thomas_Voland my idea is mainly similar as yours, but wouldn’t require me to plug anything into the quest. Still would be way better if meta would talk to streaming services to bring their app to the quest, and to talk to Netflix to update their app for 1080p.
@@Thomas_Voland yes, sorry I forgot to write about it. It’s called the AURGA Viewer. You just connect it to any device that have hdmi output (in my case I tested it with an Apple TV) and give it power via usb c. It creates a WiFi network that you can connect and then watch the output image of the device you connected from the devices own app. It’s not perfect out of the factory. I had to put heatsinks on it since the cooling of the device isn’t sold somehow, and using it on the quest there is a bit of a delay. Sometimes it’s almost 0, sometimes it’s like 1 second, but other than that it’s works really great, you can watch anything in 1080p wirelessly. You can also connect the device to your network so you could have internet in the quest while using it if you want that. It’s probably works better with an Apple Vision Pro if the app is available on it, since on my iPhone and my iPad I saw literally no delay. Also you could connect and watch the same device from multiple devices at the same time.
Fire TV into HDMI capture card. HoweverI also use USB hub to connect everything at once with one cable and have charging at the same time and HDMI card is in the hub.
Quality of Quest displays are perfectly fine for 4K. In fact certain vr180 'videos' look best at 6K, and even 8K. 4K videos aren't as crisp when comparing them in the headset.
@@Thomas_Volandlol... vr180 4K has a higher bitrate than a pancake 4K video, and so does 6K and 8K. But hey... compare 1080p vs 4K videos in the UA-cam app. Tell me you don't see a difference. Heck... UA-cam app on Quest 3 now has 8K playback.
It is sold out for a long time already. For most countries the best way to buy, is just order from official Hagibis store on Aliexpress s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DkbynV1. They offer free shipping to almost everywhere, and the prices are usually cheaper than those on Amazon. The actual delivery time is shorter now compared to the past; for me, it takes around 6-9 days.
Jeez and I thought that VR can at least do simple stuff like playing movies. Can you at least do something like one to one pixel placement, so the 1080p video is sharp?
If you download movies to Mac book and then show them through virtual desktop is this higher quality than seeing them in bigscreen through someone else showing 4k movies?
I've never seen good quality video in Bigscreen, so yes. However, remember that the Quest has just a little bit more than a 2K screens, so the difference between 1080p and 4K won't be as huge as on a 4K TV.
did it work? is it better than the one you used before? what about the Guermok one, have you tested that one? for the TV sticks, would Roku work as well?
@@rodt.7185 it works in 60 fps in YUY2 instead of MJPG, before in YUY2 I could choose only 5 fps. This card is also much smaller than my previous ones so that is great.
Everything works as intended but how to "make the window as much as you want" (3'48") ? 😭 Seems like I can't do that... If someone could help figure it out 🙏
Got me a ugreen adapter hdmi to isb adapter but the screen stays black... Any idea what the cause could be? Plugging in a pc hdmi output into the ugreen adapter does work. I got a brand new fire tv stick 4k max if that matters. Does the Capturecard need to support HDCP? Because ic couldnt find one that states that it does support it
@@Thomas_Volandit's the "UGREEN Video Capture Card, 4K HDMI auf USB C/A Capture Card, 1080P Video Grabber für Gaming, Rekorder, Livestreaming, kompatibel mit Switch PS5 PS4 Xbox TV Stick Camera Laptop iPad Mac Handy" Can't post the link as the comment gets deleted if I do... It should be a capture card. And it shows a white fire tv logo shortly at the beginning then goes black, that's why I think it could be DRM related. Got me a second one by another company by now with the same effect.
@@Thomas_Voland figured out the problem, it was indeed the hdcp DRM protection, was abled to by pass it using an HDMI splitter with edid emulator. I now have a picture but I'm still missing sound
Just an FYI that the Quest3 v66 update broke a lot of things with third party apps and how (i.e. "if") they can display video. Can anyone confirm this is working on a v66+ Quest3? From v66 on, you just get black screens in the part of the window where video would have been displayed.
Update here, I just tried this out with Onn andriod tv 4k streaming box. I get HDCP protection and I can't see anything. Does the Amazon streaming stick not have HDCP protection?
@@Thomas_Voland I am currently using the onn 4k streamer going into the ezcap cam link 4k , plugged into my PC for testing purposes. In obs I am getting hdcp protected. The reason I was plugging into my PC is because i wasn't getting anything in the quest3. After doing some research, looks like I am supposed to use a splitter to get around the hdcp. In your setup, how did you get around hdcp. Thanks in advance.
@@oldManLoo In my setup I get info that I don’t have HDCP 2.2, so with HDCP v1 I will get 1080p SDR instead of 4K HDR. On Apple TV I also have 1080p but without any info.
Ah, I see so because I am trying to get 4k that's why I am getting that. I just got a Ugreen 1080 60p capture card and no problem. Thanks for taking the time to respond ! :D @@Thomas_Voland
@@JustinLiuMotion You are welcome. It should work on 4K card (it work on my Camlink 4K), but for some reason you were unlucky. I am glad that another HDMI card works fine. If your card is USB 3.0, you can change Video settings to YUY2 60 fps instead of MJPG. If it's USB 2.0 frame rate will be too low to use YUY2. YUY2 is less compressed.
Nie wiem czy to możliwe, chyba nie. HDCP jest właśnie po to, żeby takie karty nie mogły zgrać pełnej jakości. Masz na myśli jakiś konkretny model karty?
@@AntoniChujek powinna z każdym, aczkolwiek telefon mi się z tym USB 2.0 nie chce dogadać, ale na drugim z USB 3.0 działa, więc może z niektórymi stickami być podobnie.
Czy usb cam wymaga jakiś specjalnych ustawien? Kupiłem jakiś grabber za 60zl na allegro niby 1080p@60hz ale płynny obraz mam jedynie w 1280x720. W 1080p mam ścinki obrazu i freezy na parę sekund, w porywach uzyskuje 2 fps. Chromecasta 4.0 wpialem bezpośrednio w to urzadzenie a jego wyjście (ma usb c) w q3. Więc bez zadnych przejsciowek, przedluzaczy itd. To samo mam na telefonie. To urzadzenie jest do bani czy coś trzeba specjalnie ustawiać w usb cam? (Wybralem tryb MPEG 1080 i 30 klatek), a w device info pokazuje że to jednak uezadzenie usb 2.0
I don't known, I don't have hardware to measure it. But as long as I can watch movies without lipsync issues and I can play games, for me it's good enough.
Shouldn't really matter as audio and video both run through the capture card so even with latency everything should be synchronised again so only the remote input would matter but I wasn't abled to notice any lag there...
Great vid and mad props for this discovery!
Thank you 😇
its stupid that we have to jump through hoops just to get 1080p from these god dam sreaming services we pay for
Exactly! Like I’m paying for it, let me watch 4k on a 1080 screen. It looks way better than just 1080 alone
I found an HDMI capture card in a local store that looks exactly like the one recommended in my Guermok video but at a lower price and with a different logo. Unfortunately, it turned out to be USB 2.0 (it was sold as 3.0) and it works much worst than card which I use all the time. So I'll have to order it from abroad directly from the auction I mentioned in the video.
I added chapters to the video, you can check them in desctiption.
That’s a great solution. I have a different approach but the device for it is still on the way to me, but will write about it when the device arrives. It might be a simpler solution for all this, but I have to check first.
I would gladly read about other possibilities. In the past I considered connecting a Raspberry Pi or something similar because, for example, Netflix through the browser has an option for watching together with other people, but DRM streaming in a browser always disappointed me with its quality which is worse than via Apple TV for unknown reasons to me. However, bypassing DRM by turning off acceleration is terribly power-consuming so Fire TV stick It seemed like the best option to me, but if there is a way to improve it further, I would be happy to do an upgrade.
@@Thomas_Voland my idea is mainly similar as yours, but wouldn’t require me to plug anything into the quest. Still would be way better if meta would talk to streaming services to bring their app to the quest, and to talk to Netflix to update their app for 1080p.
it's been a long time, how does your solution work?
@@Thomas_Voland still waiting for the device to arrive, it will probably be here in the next week, or the one after.
@@Thomas_Voland yes, sorry I forgot to write about it. It’s called the AURGA Viewer. You just connect it to any device that have hdmi output (in my case I tested it with an Apple TV) and give it power via usb c. It creates a WiFi network that you can connect and then watch the output image of the device you connected from the devices own app. It’s not perfect out of the factory. I had to put heatsinks on it since the cooling of the device isn’t sold somehow, and using it on the quest there is a bit of a delay. Sometimes it’s almost 0, sometimes it’s like 1 second, but other than that it’s works really great, you can watch anything in 1080p wirelessly. You can also connect the device to your network so you could have internet in the quest while using it if you want that. It’s probably works better with an Apple Vision Pro if the app is available on it, since on my iPhone and my iPad I saw literally no delay. Also you could connect and watch the same device from multiple devices at the same time.
Very good video!
Honestly, I am confused on what you have connected to what. I just want VOD to work . . :/
Fire TV into HDMI capture card. HoweverI also use USB hub to connect everything at once with one cable and have charging at the same time and HDMI card is in the hub.
Quality of Quest displays are perfectly fine for 4K. In fact certain vr180 'videos' look best at 6K, and even 8K. 4K videos aren't as crisp when comparing them in the headset.
@@michaelbinbc i thought that question was about normal videos, not 180°.
@@Thomas_Voland does it matter?
@@michaelbinbc 🤯 yes, a lot.
@@Thomas_Volandlol... vr180 4K has a higher bitrate than a pancake 4K video, and so does 6K and 8K. But hey... compare 1080p vs 4K videos in the UA-cam app. Tell me you don't see a difference. Heck... UA-cam app on Quest 3 now has 8K playback.
@@michaelbinbc Why are you still talking about 180°🤔Displays in Quest are 2K, not 4K.
Hi. Am what is the UK link for HAGIBIS capture card on Amazon UK. ?
It is sold out for a long time already. For most countries the best way to buy, is just order from official Hagibis store on Aliexpress s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DkbynV1. They offer free shipping to almost everywhere, and the prices are usually cheaper than those on Amazon. The actual delivery time is shorter now compared to the past; for me, it takes around 6-9 days.
BTW. Check my new video about this: ua-cam.com/video/Yw6t8gM4op8/v-deo.htmlsi=ZH4O1L8FnLm4Is5n
Jeez and I thought that VR can at least do simple stuff like playing movies. Can you at least do something like one to one pixel placement, so the 1080p video is sharp?
It's not an issue of VR can't do it it's an issue of companies like Disney and Amazon just don't care about it
If you download movies to Mac book and then show them through virtual desktop is this higher quality than seeing them in bigscreen through someone else showing 4k movies?
I've never seen good quality video in Bigscreen, so yes. However, remember that the Quest has just a little bit more than a 2K screens, so the difference between 1080p and 4K won't be as huge as on a 4K TV.
@@Thomas_Voland thanks so much. Now to figure out how to do all this. Lol
Today I ordered Hagibis HDMI capture card so I will test if it really works with Nintendo Switch at 60 fps and I will see if it works with iPhone.
did it work? is it better than the one you used before? what about the Guermok one, have you tested that one? for the TV sticks, would Roku work as well?
@@rodt.7185 it works in 60 fps in YUY2 instead of MJPG, before in YUY2 I could choose only 5 fps.
This card is also much smaller than my previous ones so that is great.
Everything works as intended but how to "make the window as much as you want" (3'48") ? 😭 Seems like I can't do that... If someone could help figure it out 🙏
Got me a ugreen adapter hdmi to isb adapter but the screen stays black...
Any idea what the cause could be? Plugging in a pc hdmi output into the ugreen adapter does work.
I got a brand new fire tv stick 4k max if that matters.
Does the Capturecard need to support HDCP? Because ic couldnt find one that states that it does support it
If it really is HDMI to USB adapter then it can't work, you need capture card. What is it?
@@Thomas_Volandit's the "UGREEN Video Capture Card, 4K HDMI auf USB C/A Capture Card, 1080P Video Grabber für Gaming, Rekorder, Livestreaming, kompatibel mit Switch PS5 PS4 Xbox TV Stick Camera Laptop iPad Mac Handy"
Can't post the link as the comment gets deleted if I do...
It should be a capture card. And it shows a white fire tv logo shortly at the beginning then goes black, that's why I think it could be DRM related.
Got me a second one by another company by now with the same effect.
@@Gamer-kn7fi Unfortunately I don't have any experience with Ugreen card.
@@Thomas_Voland figured out the problem, it was indeed the hdcp DRM protection, was abled to by pass it using an HDMI splitter with edid emulator.
I now have a picture but I'm still missing sound
@@Gamer-kn7fi Not easier to just buy card which I linked in the video description, with old HDCP supported 1080p?
Just an FYI that the Quest3 v66 update broke a lot of things with third party apps and how (i.e. "if") they can display video. Can anyone confirm this is working on a v66+ Quest3? From v66 on, you just get black screens in the part of the window where video would have been displayed.
@@Zero-Integral it works in every version
Update here, I just tried this out with Onn andriod tv 4k streaming box. I get HDCP protection and I can't see anything. Does the Amazon streaming stick not have HDCP protection?
What HDMI card do you have? Every smart TV has HDCP, Without it, almost nothing would work.
@@Thomas_Voland I am currently using the onn 4k streamer going into the ezcap cam link 4k , plugged into my PC for testing purposes. In obs I am getting hdcp protected. The reason I was plugging into my PC is because i wasn't getting anything in the quest3. After doing some research, looks like I am supposed to use a splitter to get around the hdcp. In your setup, how did you get around hdcp. Thanks in advance.
@@oldManLoo In my setup I get info that I don’t have HDCP 2.2, so with HDCP v1 I will get 1080p SDR instead of 4K HDR. On Apple TV I also have 1080p but without any info.
Ah, I see so because I am trying to get 4k that's why I am getting that. I just got a Ugreen 1080 60p capture card and no problem. Thanks for taking the time to respond ! :D @@Thomas_Voland
@@JustinLiuMotion You are welcome. It should work on 4K card (it work on my Camlink 4K), but for some reason you were unlucky. I am glad that another HDMI card works fine. If your card is USB 3.0, you can change Video settings to YUY2 60 fps instead of MJPG. If it's USB 2.0 frame rate will be too low to use YUY2. YUY2 is less compressed.
co nalezy zrobic zeby byla obsługa 4k? Grabber musiałby wspierac hdcp 2.2?
Nie wiem czy to możliwe, chyba nie. HDCP jest właśnie po to, żeby takie karty nie mogły zgrać pełnej jakości. Masz na myśli jakiś konkretny model karty?
@@Thomas_Voland nie, żadnego konkretnego, narazie szukam po omacku. Btw. Ta metoda zadziala z każdym tv stickiem?
@@AntoniChujek powinna z każdym, aczkolwiek telefon mi się z tym USB 2.0 nie chce dogadać, ale na drugim z USB 3.0 działa, więc może z niektórymi stickami być podobnie.
@@Thomas_Voland dzięki za pomoc!
Czy usb cam wymaga jakiś specjalnych ustawien? Kupiłem jakiś grabber za 60zl na allegro niby 1080p@60hz ale płynny obraz mam jedynie w 1280x720. W 1080p mam ścinki obrazu i freezy na parę sekund, w porywach uzyskuje 2 fps. Chromecasta 4.0 wpialem bezpośrednio w to urzadzenie a jego wyjście (ma usb c) w q3. Więc bez zadnych przejsciowek, przedluzaczy itd. To samo mam na telefonie. To urzadzenie jest do bani czy coś trzeba specjalnie ustawiać w usb cam? (Wybralem tryb MPEG 1080 i 30 klatek), a w device info pokazuje że to jednak uezadzenie usb 2.0
What the ms latency
I don't known, I don't have hardware to measure it. But as long as I can watch movies without lipsync issues and I can play games, for me it's good enough.
Shouldn't really matter as audio and video both run through the capture card so even with latency everything should be synchronised again so only the remote input would matter but I wasn't abled to notice any lag there...