Gold Experience Requiem Would LOSE To Made In Heaven (According To Araki)
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- Опубліковано 14 тра 2024
- Gold Experience Requiem Would LOSE To Made In Heaven (According To Araki)
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King Crimson can only attack after time erase ends, meaning GER activated RTZ after Time Erase ended (imgur.com/a/NKUootG )
JOJO A-Go! Go! & JoJoVeller Barely Added Any New Info About GER That Wasn't Already In The Original Source Material/Manga (imgur.com/a/h4jbFBu )
Literal Time Erasure Contradiction, Basically Time Erase equals everything gone except the characters, yet we see the world still tangibly exists before it's even "brought back up" due to rtz (imgur.com/a/hwIsfBq )
Vento Aureo Bunko Vol. 10 (August 2005) (jojowiki.com/Interview:Vento_...) )
“During the process of drawing Part 5: Vento Aureo, I thought to myself: What about those who regret being born at all? What are those people to do? People can't choose where they are born. Some are born into happy families, while others arrive in terrible circumstances. If "fate" or "destiny" is already determined, like some kind of law written by God or the movements of the stars, what are they to do? That is the theme of Part 5: Vento Aureo, as well as the protagonists and enemies who appear within it.”
“What should I do? If "fate" or "destiny" could be changed just by putting in effort or courage, it'd be much too easy to do so, and we wouldn't be able to call it "destiny" at all. Then, how will the protagonists break free?”
“The protagonists themselves showed me the answer. They didn't try to change their "fate" or their "destiny," but refused to abandon their sense of righteousness, no matter what situation befell them. They believed that happiness dwelled within hearts of justice. It came naturally to them.”
All this blatantly supports and confirms the stuff I was talking about regarding the theme of Part 5, Fate in JoJo generally, and that the ability of Requiem didn’t ACTUALLY change fate as what GER was supposed to do was predestined to happen. At least that’s how I look at things.
Is RTZ stated to be passive? No. Is RTZ stated to be automatic? No. Is GER stated to be instant or automatic? NO. Please don’t ever say the stand or ability is stated to be something when it was never stated at all, go with what’s objectively PROVABLE or the MOST probable.
Random GER fans spreading misinfo regarding the JoJo Part 6 Time Stop "Strongest Stand Ability Ever" statement, saying it actually says "The Strongest Known Stand Ability" in some translation. Whatever translation that is from is dead wrong, I have it professionally translated and it says
"Star Platinum, the ability to stop time for a few seconds, it is the most powerful/strongest stand ability ever."
And to add insult to injury, if you go down the Google Translate and DeepL route, they never say “known” or “known to man”.
Finally people say the Star Platinum Time Stop statements are "Flowery language" or "Hyperbolic statements taken too literally" or "Hype statements", which is the most unself aware take and thought process because the EXACT same outlook can be equally applied to GER's RTZ statements being hyperbolic as well cause they're all saying the SAME thing in different ways. It goes both ways, you don’t get to establish a new standard of evidence and then NOT fulfill it. Stop the cope.
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In case I wasn’t clear enough, I will not be seriously responding to anyone in the comments section if they do not have the phrase I told them to have in the beginning as said in my video, and the phrase shows up at the end of my video, to prove and be easy to tell if you haven’t watched the video or simply skimmed it (Specially when I see some of y’all strawman and put words in my mouth). Also people having specific questions or points against my video that is actually covered in my “Gold Experience Requiem: Narrative Misconceptions” video, which was a call to action at the beginning of this video that you NEED to watch. It is not my fault that these people cannot follow basic instructions and don’t have basic pattern recognition. Oh and also check the video description.
Bro you sound so upset in the video, legit who's the GER fan who bullied you? I'll have a talk with their mom
@@shriderrad4123 dude you sound like a Giorno glazer fr. Not even I glaze that hard.
@@Diggerwipper I sound like a "Giorno glazer" despite my comment not even originally mentioning Giorno. Lmao yeah that makes sense.
@@shriderrad4123 " ill have a talk with their mom" - 🤓
@@Diggerwipper "yOu SoUnd LIke a GiOrnO GlAzEr fR"-🤡
Made in Heaven simpy blitzes.
Cook Jobber👨🍳
But OUT OF CHARACTER wouldn’t Giorno just blitz him before he can accelerate time in a HYPOTHETICAL FAIR FIGHT scenario? (I just wanna make HYPOTHETICAL FAIR FIGHT clear to make it evident I am NOT putting him the the unfair p6 scenario) also like Pucci cannot accelerate time to infinity instantly or else he would have just killed the gang immediately (since Pucci doesn’t develop an ego till after he kills Jotaro and resets we cannot use the ego excuse like we could with DIO for example), if he can this is a plot hole, and made worse by Novel Kars’ MIH ultimate requiem being unique due to being able to reset and infinitly accelerate instantly which would have been pointless to call him “ultimate requiem” if MIH had that by default unless we argue MIH is the new potential man, like novel had no problem calling Killer Queen “Killer Queen” without any silly nicknames. So like can we stop the glaze please and just admit Toji Fushiguro Jojo edition is a bush camping prep time merchant (no disrespect like he is my favourite villain too but like let’s not glaze him and in terms of og universe villains to beat GER with just call his dad)
@@barnabassebesteny1490 The speed of time doesn't correlate to the speed of Pucci.
Jotaro literally stated that with how fast time is moving, He should be moving at max, Mach 2.4
But before AND after that, He managed to blitz Jotaro (MFTL+)
Its just quite clear that Pucci is already MFTL+ at the start of Time Acceleration.
He could blitz Star Platinum, Dodge his attacks at point blank range and move so fast that neither Jotaro nor Star Platinum could keep up with him.
You can also bring up the end of Stone Ocean where Pucci was instantly faster than Weather Report, Managing to weave his punches and get behind him before he could even percieve it.
*If Pucci is faster than Star Platinum, He's BEYOND faster than G.E.R*
Also, G.E.R has no way to significantly damage Pucci in the case he hit him.
His attack potency doesn't even compare to pucci's durability
So even if you were nice to Giorno and said he blitzes before Pucci picks up speed, He would literally scratch Pucci.
Basically, He blitzes and bypass rtz with no issues.
@@Doxe420that's not how trz works, it simply negates the action beyond space and time which are Harmful to user
HERE HE IS, DOXE!
Two cookers at the same commentary section? Crazy, you two are spitting fax.
Btw Doxe, your “Doxes husband obtained his ultimate stand” shirt is very funny ngl, I’m waiting for the SP VS GER vid 🤞🤞
Ngl I appreciate you taking the time to explain and bring understanding to a cesspool of a scaling community at the best of times, I just personally moved on but I dead ass still enjoy your content. A side note, I personally don't care for when authors make the next ultimate thing or the greatest power and use words that in my personal interpretation make something sound unbeatable even after it's been introduced. Terms like the final power, ultimate power beyond any other, or the greatest there ever is or will be etc. When they're still writing a story and know they have to top it my old interpretation of GER was because it had no stats it's capabilities were off the charts and in some ways for me it still is. But when you compare it to something like made in heaven a favorite stand of mine for it's goofy look, it's kinda lack luster in a way but I'll say it's kinda on Araki for this one @JobberGodot because he did some, let's call it what it really is, clunky and wonky ass writing with GER I love him for it and I'm also perplexed by it at times which is personally why I just try to enjoy the story and stands and wacky abilities they may have than powerscaling it just drains the fun out of things for me. Not a declaration that I'll stop watching your vids just me putting my two cents in to say while I enjoy your content this argument got old and fuck the detractors at this point I'm curious about other stuff you may wanna post.
I haven’t been in the jojo community for a while now let alone watched your videos and wow you sound different
The fact you went back to clip this, and make a whole new video out of it... Now I REALLY can understand where your coming from with some Jojo Fans...
We know that weather report is the ultimate stand.
More like ultimate *sspull
white snake blitzed that shit 🗣🗣
@@diegolands don't worry, weather or i say heavy weather has ability ready to go to counter him in rematch:)
Been saying Made In Heaven would just speed blitz GER for YEARS!
And you're wrong
@@darkhound7965you can't prove that
@@saadsami8860 yes, I can and will (if you want)
@@saadsami8860 and you can't prove that MiH would blitz GER either
How does this affect DIO's legacy?
Jobber godot i am your big fan I want you to recognize me i have a pretty good question about jotaro star platinum time stop if you are free please answer whenever you want
Can you do a Josuke (4) power scale and The Potential of restoration
Pretty sure you're being unaware of truth since that's is GER ability crazy how it can affect ppl outside the story truly op
Where’s that Baki vs Joseph video fn 👁️
Ig no one here properly reads the Jojo a gogo databook
If Oda says Current Luffy loses to East Blue Sanji is he correct?
This is literally a fallacy sense fight in jojo works differently lol
Ger hax isn't stronger then mih people keap making head canon over ger until people forget what the hax was lol
Wasn't fate in every main villain fight?
Isn't it stated that when the gang in part 5 make the arrow pierce with their stand they would gain something beyond stand abilities by polnareff? so wouldn't it be the opposite way around since made in heaven is classified as a stand power and whatever GER has isn't?
GER is above every stand in the original timeline
Jobber is being a clown
@@cyrus8886as of part 5 mabye but not at part 6 since made in heaven exists
@@josephrogers3666 her has the ultimate stand title as far as steel ball run
Araki's narrative intention with GER are very clear
Now if you wanna join jobber in his clownery by all means go ahead
@@cyrus8886 star platinum the world is also called and ultimate ability/stand that’s not a valid point and also araki says MIH is the strongest yet and more up to date the statement more valid it it therefore MIH>GER
@@josephrogers3666 In your dreams maybe
I'd agree to disagree with this for the sole reason that It was also stated that Jotaro's Star Platinum is the strongest stand in Part 6 in his character profile. That leads me to believe that SP is the strongest regular stand until Made in Heaven is introduced. So Made in Heaven can be the strongest regular stand in the original series while GER being a requiem stand is still stronger. But I'd still say that it's open to interpretation, you make a convincing argument.
Or that ger isn't really that strong and jotaro w agents him
Could Silver Chariot Anubis defeat King Crimson?
honestly its possible because of how good it is at adapting
Diavolo midd diff >>
Boingo’s stand from part 3 could defeat mih
I have one thing that should disprove all of the, "GER is infinitely above all Stands," people: In (I believe) Jojo-a-Gogo, it specifically states that, at least in terms of speed, MIH is second only to God himself. It also states that Star Platinum is *the* strongest Stand. Note that it's "strongest," not "most powerful," as in Star Platinum would beat GER in an arm-wrestling match but GER has better hax
But Jotaro’s time stop did threaten Pucci’s Made in Heaven’s speed power. Pucci had to be far away from him. If they were to fight in closed area, maybe SP has better chances to win
I agree mostly
SP ane MiH> Ger
Araki confirms it
Araki literally said himself GER beats made in heaven with ease around the time part 6 anime was near the end
Source?
Source?! We’re still waiting @electricburst0986
@@JobberGodot JoJoveller's artbook (Araki confirmed that Return to 0 and Gold experience requiem >> each stand (the artbook has all the parts of JoJo up to the beginning of part 8. The only stand that are greater than GER are soft and wet go beyond and wonder of u).
So ig metas scaling was delusional and so am i.
The nightmare of ger fan keep slamming those fan fiction mfs they can't prove ger is stronger without head canon and opinion lol
I appreciate the anti-GER agenda. But King Crimson does, in fact, erase time. Gonna go watch that whole video now.
Still like GER
My Top Ten For JoJo's Bizarre Adventure (Who would beat everyone else above them)
1. Silver Chariot (Anubis)
2. Diavolo
3. Giorno Giovanna
4. DIO (or Diego)
5. Jotaro Kujo
6. Made In Heaven Pucci
7. Tooru
8. Josuke (Part 8)
9. Funny Valentine
10. Johnny Joestar
tooru is the strongest villian, stated by araki
Pretty sure its the stand thats the strongest
everyone below tooru would beat him tho even tho they're weaker than him.
Joji Solos with beyond
Nah J88suke would not win against MiH and Jotaro,probably Diavolo too
Another person who agrees that ger just has average human strength.
Isn’t there supposed to be a word at the end of this video? Unless you count the Godot reference as a “word”.
To play Diavolo’s advocate, how do you figure that Araki was specifically referring to strength when he said “surpassed”? The rest of the statement has to do with him feeling creatively fulfilled, so wouldn’t it stand to reason that MiH and its effects simply “surpasses” all of his previous ideas in terms of creativity? You also claim in the title that “GER would lose to MiH” according to Araki, but if you showed evidence of that, I certainly didn’t catch it, unless you are trying to say that an ability being stronger than all others by necessity means that it can’t lose to any other ability?
Because Araki says that Pucci gaining a stronger ability is relevant to Part 6 and resetting the entire JoJo bloodline, and that the ability couldn’t be surpassed, all ideas within his own creativity implemented into the story. He only talks about the MiH ability functions and that he deems that no stand ability could surpass it. And that’s how he wanted and did end Stone Ocean, that was his creative ideas at their limit. He thought that JoJo would end there as he was running out of ideas
I think you're underrating GER. GER can take the entirety of something and revert it to a previous state. This includes any action the target takes and leaves GER unaffected by it (i.e., Giorno would be affected by time stop, but GER would not). This puts anything it affects in a constant loop of being put back to zero depending on what GER has done to the target. If GER was to kill a target, they would be constantly put in an infinite loop of deaths[28], each one varying from the next. The ability can be described as taking the "effect" out of "cause and effect". GER was able to bypass diavolo's time erase meaning he's also can bypass space and time. This means Giorno is being that transcends time and could punch you at every point in time casually. Time transcends durability would mean that only beings that can inflict damage across time would be able to harm you. Time transcendent speed is called immeserable since your basically trying to calculate distance over a negative amount of time and thus end up with a negative speed. This means Giorno/ GER has irrelevant speed (meanwhile pucci has immeasurable speed). Transcending space and time and/or moving in a structure transcendent to space and time gives a character Irrelevant speed via them bypassing the formula of speed (D/T, D=distance T=time). In other words, both of these factors are meaningless to characters/structures transcendent to space and time, therefore they can't be measured (this is similar to how moving in a structure where time doesn't flow gives a character inaccessible speed). So I think its safe to say, Giorno slams.
Wow, the last powerscaling guy was boring but you’re just annoying.
cry about it
So because he doesn't think Ger solos everyone he's annoying to you
Ger fans crying because they can't say bs and head canon anymore to make that fodder strong
Screw GER, screw MiH, screw SP:TW, Rohan's speed solos.
all that just for a bodybuilder to speedblitz his ahh 💀
GER surpassed all existing stands and his stats can’t be compared with existing ones.
Notorious B.I.G has Inf speed, plus Star Platinum P3 is a peak SP version.
So it’s officially stated that GER surpasses infinity and SP in every aspect.
GER hatred lobby negged again and exposed🤡
So basically, since burning down the house has all none stats it's as strong as ger? Your logic is stupid
Also where is it officially stated that GER surpasses infinity
@@afluffy_ali Exactly. People act like part 5 came out at the same time as 6 and 7 fsr smh
Didn't he loose to some kid
and 💀
Didn't diavolo lose to 15 year old? Didn't kira and dio lose to a high schooler? what is your point here
Didn't he win against anasui, ermes, jotaro, and jolyne, the only reason he lost was because of fate
GER is not a regular Stand, MIH is just a regular Stand, while GER and it's effects are the result of it being an evolved form of a Stand. It's like in Bleach where Ichigo and Aizen have transcended beyond a normal Shinigami to a higher point of existing. GER would not "lose" to Made In Heaven, if anything, it would either come up to the way that either Stand is used by their User.
MIH isn't a regular stand. Pucci literally achieved heaven.
NEVER COOK AGAIN 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Na you are wrong
You do realize that by spamming the same comment on any of my videos you disagree with and even going as far as to use another alt account to do so, you’re only helping my videos gain traction in the YT algorithm? Thank you bro, my biggest fan 😈
@@JobberGodot na
@@JobberGodot still wrong
Iggy?