Can Braids Break Karn, Living Legacy in Standard? | Against the Odds | Magic: the Gathering (MTG)

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  • Опубліковано 17 лип 2024
  • What are the odds of winning with Braids, Arisen Nightmare and Karn, Living Legacy in Dominaria United Standard? Let's find out!
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    0:00 Start
    3:21 Match 1
    11:43 Match 2
    24:00 Match 3
    39:11 Match 4
    49:52 Match 5
    1:12:48 Wrap Up
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  • @MTGGoldfish
    @MTGGoldfish  Рік тому +356

    Apparently there's some sort of sync issue with the first match. Don't worry, it gets better! Sorry for the hassle.

    • @TehPlutoKiss
      @TehPlutoKiss Рік тому +18

      I got *super* thrown off and got worried, immediately went to the comments, thank you for letting me know xD

    • @TheRicharizard
      @TheRicharizard Рік тому +9

      I call this deck "karn(corn) rows" cause it's karn with braids

    • @felipesouzabarros3744
      @felipesouzabarros3744 Рік тому +3

      i thought i was too stoned.............

    • @Saoatomesan
      @Saoatomesan Рік тому +2

      I also went immediately to the comments for this

    • @winterbreaksable
      @winterbreaksable Рік тому +5

      It makes it look like Seth is commentating on a live game he's watching instead of playing

  • @Petronio39
    @Petronio39 Рік тому +122

    Powerstones are a funny thing in magic, because as they become worn, fractured or broken into shards, they actually become more efficient energy sources.

    • @Psycchan
      @Psycchan Рік тому +23

      the energy output must be determined by surface area rather than mass then

  • @AzelRavenWood
    @AzelRavenWood Рік тому +96

    I think the thing I enjoy the most about you Seth, is that even if you are playing a card you don't think is good or you are playing against someone playing said card, you always find the moment positive and cheerfully instead of being a salty salt lord, and I respect that!

  • @petrsevcik5044
    @petrsevcik5044 Рік тому +192

    Today we learned that Karn is almost as good as Storm Crow, since you can sacrifice the powerstone tokens to Braids. Although Braids isn't quite Force of Will, it's still not bad.

    • @itsallenwow
      @itsallenwow Рік тому +16

      You beat me to the storm crow comp 😢
      I love that this community can immediately all remember a meme from ten plus years ago hahah

  • @Eddyb1e
    @Eddyb1e Рік тому +63

    "We got more blood than we're ever gonna need." - Seth
    *Dracula has entered the chat.*

    • @AkodoNoEyes
      @AkodoNoEyes Рік тому

      This made me choke on my drink hahah 😂

  • @hashiro124
    @hashiro124 Рік тому +232

    Your commentary is out of sync with your visual in the first match (haven't made it past that match yet)

    • @MstrKipper
      @MstrKipper Рік тому

      Just got there was thinking the same

    • @TheSnaare
      @TheSnaare Рік тому

      It's all throughout 😓

    • @Pixelatedude6
      @Pixelatedude6 Рік тому

      Yeah, this apparently happened with the stream replay from last week according to a viewer

    • @adNauseam6798
      @adNauseam6798 Рік тому

      I thought I was having a stroke! Thank god I’m not.

    • @liorramati265
      @liorramati265 Рік тому

      Match two looks good

  • @Blackflame305
    @Blackflame305 Рік тому +19

    Braids and Karn are definitely a cool synergy, but what this has really convinced me of is that Dragonspark Reactor is a hugely undervalued card

    • @jerryleganker4630
      @jerryleganker4630 Рік тому

      Yeah I didn’t even know it was release du til I was building an artifact deck a month back, its sooooo good

  • @adamoberlitner1188
    @adamoberlitner1188 Рік тому +86

    Starting to wonder if Dragonspark Reactor is the card I’m missing from my own Braids Anvil deck - could always use more ways to pressure the opponent’s life total!

    • @AkodoNoEyes
      @AkodoNoEyes Рік тому

      It would be pretty good as a 1 or 2 of.

    • @sethc.1366
      @sethc.1366 Рік тому +1

      Maybe as a one of, still a little clunky

    • @numchux2
      @numchux2 Рік тому +8

      I think that's why this deck works so well, it's just incremental pressure all game forcing opponent to deal with something every turn or take the damage

    • @thekopekemaster
      @thekopekemaster Рік тому +5

      Dragonspark Reactor is INSANE. It's the main wincon in my Legacy 12-Weld (Goblin Welder and all of its variants) deck. I realized how strong the card was after it won me a bunch of games in NEO prerelease (with double Fable, Anvil, and the guy that sacrifices an artifact to make a 3/1 haste construct).

    • @gingermagicc7859
      @gingermagicc7859 Рік тому +1

      I’m running it as a 2 of in my deck and it’s a control killer

  • @neufmarche8489
    @neufmarche8489 Рік тому +25

    I must say Seth, this looks really really good! Closer to competitive playable than Janky Against the Odds!! That was such a cool concept and a cool deckbuild I might buy it in paper. Amazing video!

    • @BobardeZanzibar
      @BobardeZanzibar Рік тому

      It was only a matter of time before someone broke Karn.

    • @lasterman94100
      @lasterman94100 Рік тому +1

      Seath the scaleless?

    • @Blackmystix
      @Blackmystix Рік тому

      @@lasterman94100 he must play DS so much his phone autocorrects lmao

  • @wudgethenumbers
    @wudgethenumbers Рік тому +13

    I think you caught a few people not reading and not realizing that declining the Braids sac was an option.

  • @EduPascualSaez
    @EduPascualSaez Рік тому +5

    I'd take two big lessons from this:
    First: after so many busted Karn versions, the one that isn't busted seems bad.
    Second: having cards that are great in the right shell but pointless otherwise, rather than cards that provide a low of value on any deck you slam them in, yields much more fun and variety to any format :)

  • @jeffreylooter535
    @jeffreylooter535 Рік тому +4

    Seth’s ingenuity knows no bounds, I would have never thought to combine these

  • @azullove979
    @azullove979 Рік тому +5

    After I saw your games I built a mardu version, used Edgar, wedding announcement, rite of oblivion, as the white splash and then was more aggro with the artifacts, used the 3/3 blood token making artifact, so good. Went 5 and 1..

    • @a.artmaster8733
      @a.artmaster8733 Рік тому

      Name the card that’s the 3/3 blood token maker please and thank you

  • @Gregness2000
    @Gregness2000 Рік тому +5

    In game 1 of match 2, you didn't get punished for it but you should have sac'd the big reactor to kill the lifelinking vampire token before it dealt damage to you. You ended up having exactsies, but you ended up killing it on that end step anyway so there was no reason to let the opponent make it close.

    • @jdude99lolz
      @jdude99lolz Рік тому

      He also just straight up missed lethal earlier around 15 mins. Oni cult a power stone to ping for 1 and tick up reactor to 7. Use reactor to kill samurai and swing with braids for 10 total damage. And then braids trigger and they lose 2 life and die

  • @asherhinrichs9566
    @asherhinrichs9566 Рік тому

    Fascinating brew, cool synergies, and you rose to the challenge of making new Karn good! 10/10 Seth, great fun to watch!

  • @ajax4709
    @ajax4709 Рік тому +4

    😂 my fav thing about Seth is how confidently he pronounces words however he feels like

  • @leanin2it
    @leanin2it Рік тому +2

    The amount of fun you’re having with this deck is infectious! Karn might be worse than Voldaren Epicure in this deck, but gosh darn if it isn’t way more fun

    • @Dracinard
      @Dracinard Рік тому +1

      I'm honestly not sure Voldaren Epicure is better. Karn gives you an artifact every turn, a potential alternative win con in the ultimate and a colourless Impulse for when you really need an answer. Epicure gives you one artifact, one body and one damage. For the grindy sacrifice strategy that this looks like, Karn's the perfect piece!

  • @ferdithetank7535
    @ferdithetank7535 Рік тому +5

    Unlikely friends, but good ones nonetheless! Amazing how sometimes slamming two build-around cards together is so effective.

  • @angelicahernandez1035
    @angelicahernandez1035 Рік тому

    Lol, I have been toying with this idea for days! I am so happy to see a (way better) version of it!

  • @dracosfire7247
    @dracosfire7247 Рік тому +1

    "Braids and Karn, together at last" has the same energy as "Nuts and gum, together at last"

  • @theokchannel2081
    @theokchannel2081 Рік тому

    I saw the title and I already could see the vision can't wait to watch this video see if it works

  • @KisoX
    @KisoX Рік тому

    These were amazing matches. I watched this the third time now :D

  • @barekstubblefield3237
    @barekstubblefield3237 Рік тому +1

    I love the deck idea. I was thinking karn need a artifact deck or some other weird way to use powers tones. Very creative use of them

  • @vulcanh254
    @vulcanh254 Рік тому +2

    Reactor win.
    Seth: "That's Karn! Karn is good!"

    • @johndoe9343
      @johndoe9343 28 днів тому

      Haven't finished the vid yet, but how many times did a Powerstone tick up Reactor?

  • @spencernoble6824
    @spencernoble6824 Рік тому +1

    I love this combo. Me and my friend happened to both pull showcase Karns, and I'm determined to make Karn useful

  • @protestthebread1046
    @protestthebread1046 Рік тому

    What I love about Seth, probably better known as SaffronOlive's cadence is that it reminds me much of a bumblebee's flight through the air. Darting about, up and down, going from flower to flower to collect that sweet nectar.

  • @enmanuelrondon9700
    @enmanuelrondon9700 Рік тому

    I'm glad you resisted the urge to make a deck where you just discard karn to fable and enemy lili for value.

  • @MstrKipper
    @MstrKipper Рік тому

    Now this is the crossover we needed for true greatness

  • @martinprybylski2392
    @martinprybylski2392 Рік тому

    before rotation I built a budget Red/Black anvil deck that I loved. So much play to it. I think this is it's spiritual successor. Dragonspark Reactor is soooo good. Braids definitely is good in it.

  • @mjb552
    @mjb552 Рік тому

    I feel like ts been a long time since I've seen this much Seth joy. Thank you for that, Braids.

  • @person3176
    @person3176 Рік тому

    not sure about the green splash but this was a really sweet brew, well done seth!

  • @Pixelatedude6
    @Pixelatedude6 Рік тому

    59:55 "We've got more blood than we're ever gonna need." -Seth pbka 2022

  • @OGNoNameNobody
    @OGNoNameNobody Рік тому +4

    Good Job giving the new *Karn* a chance, Seth.
    I had decided after preview weekend, my first post-rotation deck was gonna be on *Karn* just to get you, but, after this, I'm still doing it.
    My build will just be....slightly different.

  • @goomshill
    @goomshill Рік тому +3

    Well you COULD just play a {5} Jodah's Codex and draw an extra card each turn. Or you could play a vulnerable {1BB} creature and a vulnerable {4} planeswalker both with no way to protect themselves, and then you draw an extra card each turn unless your opponent has a treasure or blood token to sacrifice... Yup, this is my kind of jank.

  • @EnordAreven
    @EnordAreven Рік тому +1

    If you would avoid the green, what other cards would you recommend adding instead?

  • @ther3aper561
    @ther3aper561 Рік тому

    Been enjoying the absolute hell out of all the videos because of DMU. Standard, explorer, hopefully we'll see if any lords can make a difference in Legacy or Modern

  • @latinkingzgl
    @latinkingzgl Рік тому

    This... this puts a smile on my face

  • @derekcline950
    @derekcline950 Рік тому

    You spending wildcards on Karn for the content fills me with strong emotions. Mixed, but strong.

  • @raymundosantos8872
    @raymundosantos8872 Рік тому

    Finally, Karn Against the odd video!

  • @jacksonlarge1549
    @jacksonlarge1549 Рік тому +1

    I’ve been combining Braids with Lagomos, Hand of Hatred and Sheoldred the Apocalypse for a nice unconventional life gain and infinite permanent sac. If I get lucky and get to throw in a Liesa, Forgotten Archangel and Ratadrabik of Utborg to infinitely sacrifice Braids and Sheoldred and create tokens with the same abilities. It’s just a slow deck and I need to figure out how to make it better cause once that combo is out there, there isn’t a lot opponent can usually do 😅

  • @ShiivaWilding
    @ShiivaWilding Рік тому

    Killer deck idea!

  • @dimitrialberti2092
    @dimitrialberti2092 Рік тому +2

    Not all heroes wear capes I was torn with the vote between Karn and braids. But Seth did both.

  • @houseplant.mp4
    @houseplant.mp4 Рік тому

    I’ve been running new karn, dragonspark, oni cult, sanguine statuette and just a bunch of blood token generators to fuel karn. It’s good midrange paired with falconrath forebear etc it’s a legitimately fun deck

  • @danlewis7707
    @danlewis7707 Рік тому

    Seth! You could have played that Bootleggers at 37:52 to get like 4 triggers on each reactor and basically kill them through anything next turn!

  • @heaveemetal3223
    @heaveemetal3223 Рік тому

    Pretty sweet.
    I’ll test drive

  • @LazyQahnaarin
    @LazyQahnaarin Рік тому

    What a LEGENDARY final game.

  • @mikemoyer8162
    @mikemoyer8162 Рік тому

    My 2 cents: 1 is that I love this deck. It's funky and uses jank, but can be surprisingly effective.
    The 2nd is that you know that first game of match 5 that your opponent had a blast. That was a wild game all around and slamming all those legends and being thwarted over and over again, had to be a feel good win.

  • @elesh3178
    @elesh3178 Рік тому

    Missed kill at 15:14. Saccing a power stone with the anvil puts them to 11 and reactor to 7. Reactor hits their blocker and puts them to 4. They’re then dead to braids attack for 3 + sac for 2.

  • @chrishoye55
    @chrishoye55 Рік тому +2

    If the powerstones didn't come in tapped, Karn would be slightly more playable

  • @Lionbug
    @Lionbug Рік тому

    The biggest reason for clicking on these videos are the thumbnails, then the awesome host

  • @generalbochii
    @generalbochii Рік тому

    This deck is oddly super synergistic. I like it.

  • @SpecialKail
    @SpecialKail Рік тому

    I love dragonspark reactor. I've got it in my prosper deck

  • @KnicKnac
    @KnicKnac Рік тому

    This would be fun in historic brawl if there is a good commander in area to choose. Seems artifact focused.

  • @Jacob-ee8ux
    @Jacob-ee8ux Рік тому

    I was your round 1 opponent. I didn't realise it was you until you cast Bootlegger's Stash lol.

  • @trap8798
    @trap8798 Рік тому +1

    Seth, premiere Karn, Living Legacy hater, playing Karn? This is legendary.

  • @kats7930
    @kats7930 Рік тому

    very sad about the audio desync... it was such an exciting combo too!

  • @jesterking42
    @jesterking42 Рік тому

    I opened Braids and Karn in my Pre-release. Wonderful combo! And the whole "new Karn is trash" meme played to my advantage, because people underestimated Karn. Ulted him twice and machine gunned my opponents, haha! Got second place with them in an Abzan elf ball deck.

  • @ciaran.downey
    @ciaran.downey Рік тому

    Love to see dragonspark reactor pop off

  • @robertcusick9931
    @robertcusick9931 Рік тому

    I appreciate the work you do making these junky decks. Good job.

  • @omegalazarus
    @omegalazarus Рік тому

    How do you get the Tokyo lands? I ordered the secret lair, but it didn't come with an arena code (according to my order).

    • @madaramoricep
      @madaramoricep Рік тому +1

      It's an offer prior the DMU release...

  • @connorfranke3687
    @connorfranke3687 Рік тому

    Not to be picky but I noticed a delay with the 2nd gmae in match 1 with the audio and the gameplay. Not a big thing but something I noticed.

  • @MrSuperiorTech
    @MrSuperiorTech Рік тому

    The evolution of Saffron Olive's youtube voice leads me to believe that, one day, we will not be able to understand him

  • @Jupue
    @Jupue Рік тому

    Why is the cam off for in game 2?

  • @3meiguri
    @3meiguri Рік тому

    Need that one of fun of sheoldred in the deck

  • @metroplexgrimlock7089
    @metroplexgrimlock7089 Рік тому

    I am going to try an Orzhov Karn+Braids. The only thing I'm missing is the Karn

  • @christianbarrett3040
    @christianbarrett3040 Рік тому

    Tear asunder is actually great mainboard in modern, albeit a bit mana hungry, because of chalice, Urza's saga, and the entirety of hammer time. 2 Mana to shut down a ton of powerful cards, and 4 mana to nuke nonlands. Just make sure you don't kick it when targeting Urza's Saga....

  • @leowheeler8320
    @leowheeler8320 Рік тому

    When you have an untapped oni-cult anvil with a construct out on your oppenents turn, you can sack a construct to its tap ability to ping your opponent for 1 and make another one.

    • @leowheeler8320
      @leowheeler8320 Рік тому

      Saying this because at 26:30 you didnt

    • @thaddeusgenhelm8979
      @thaddeusgenhelm8979 Рік тому

      @@leowheeler8320 Half a year late, but Oni-Cult Anvil only can make a construct on *your* turn, not your opponent's turn.

  • @tannermattingly4462
    @tannermattingly4462 Рік тому +1

    I feel like this deck kinda shows why they had to make the Powerstone tokens so awful. Turns out that artifact tokens that do actually nothing are still inherently strong due to artifact synergies.

  • @MrMeszaros
    @MrMeszaros Рік тому

    At around 9:00 the sound is late by a few seconds - commentating on past actions

  • @deejus_e
    @deejus_e Рік тому

    Weird ship but I respect it

  • @MahouShoujoAutumn
    @MahouShoujoAutumn Рік тому

    I need a Braids & Karn roommate buddy comedy now
    Braids: 😃
    Karn: 😐

  • @TripsAhoy
    @TripsAhoy Рік тому

    D3ck has so much synergy!

  • @benpouy3345
    @benpouy3345 Рік тому +1

    And you said Karn was bad Seth!

  • @margibso
    @margibso Рік тому +24

    So with a Braids on the battlefield, Karn becomes a sorta decent planeswalker? Yea, Karn is pretty bad.

    • @petrsevcik5044
      @petrsevcik5044 Рік тому

      Almost as good as Storm Crow

    • @VampDemigod
      @VampDemigod Рік тому

      So with two other specific lands on the battlefield, Urza’s Mine makes one extra colorless mana?
      Sure it’s not an identical scenario, but by your logic, decks shouldn’t be built with synergy, they should just be powerful cards that don’t affect each other or combos that win instantly. No need for ramp or card draw, they’re only kinda good.

    • @davidchaput5484
      @davidchaput5484 Рік тому

      Well he is a source of artifact generation which channel the whole deck idea to sack them. Id say rather that this karn wasnt born in the right standard format to be good? He would've loved a time sieve.

    • @plasmawisp18
      @plasmawisp18 Рік тому

      I'd rather them make unique PWs that have synergies vs the formulaic of uptick for card draw, downtick for removal/protection, and an ult that wins the game

    • @Hawko1313
      @Hawko1313 Рік тому +3

      @@plasmawisp18 right? everyone just expects a 4 mana planeswalker to 3 for 1 their opponent, cook them dinner and tie their shoes these days. Kinda glad the artifact reliant planeswalker stayed on brand and tried to find a niche rather than becoming a generic all include like the karn from the last dominaria set.

  • @tasogarerubica
    @tasogarerubica Рік тому

    Karn might be my favorite card from Dominaria. It's no bomb nor top tier card from the set but has potential to be good with the right brew.

  • @demiurge2501
    @demiurge2501 Рік тому

    The ultimate game 1 wow

  • @playdead09
    @playdead09 Рік тому

    This is the new cat oven combo. I hate it, thanks!

  • @ScarBebop
    @ScarBebop Рік тому

    For a brief moment I read the title as, "Can Braids break Karn in legacy" x'D

  • @xxxrated6346
    @xxxrated6346 Рік тому +1

    Karn might work in Lantern Control in Modern.

  • @rupert7565
    @rupert7565 Рік тому

    Do you think Karn would be OP if it was 3 mana and started with 1 less loyalty?

  • @AAAAGGGGGHHHHsphere
    @AAAAGGGGGHHHHsphere Рік тому

    I'm confused, jund burn?

  • @bertdog2119
    @bertdog2119 Рік тому +1

    Missed opportunity for a Barn joke tbh

  • @zerorequiem42
    @zerorequiem42 Рік тому

    I think Karn might turn out pretty good since it's a +1 ability to get an artifact.

  • @TheDylls
    @TheDylls Рік тому

    Never thought I'd Ship Karn+Braids lmao

  • @aaronnava5656
    @aaronnava5656 Рік тому

    "Karn is good if you treat his first ability like it makes blank tokens" isn't a ringing endorsement of Karn, but it's a good point

  • @JJpleex
    @JJpleex Рік тому

    Seth’s pure joy winning with Karn after shitting on it brought me so much happiness

  • @Dalenthas
    @Dalenthas Рік тому +1

    Finally put an end to all this Karn slander...

  • @christianbarrett3040
    @christianbarrett3040 Рік тому

    No Sheoldred to abuse the free draw?

  • @nathangardner4084
    @nathangardner4084 Рік тому

    To me this deck seems super good but karn could probably be replaced with something else that makes treasures or something instead every turn

  • @chriscunningham6401
    @chriscunningham6401 Рік тому

    Nice that Karn could find a home in Standard.

  • @TheREALTheRealAdam
    @TheREALTheRealAdam Рік тому

    It's hilarious that in the one deck Karn is playable in, his tokens are strictly worse Darksteel Relics.

  • @nosyamthegreat8768
    @nosyamthegreat8768 Рік тому

    Who know makeing a deck around a card would make that card good.

  • @willashcroft2396
    @willashcroft2396 Рік тому

    petition to name this deck Oni-Cult Karnival

  • @BobardeZanzibar
    @BobardeZanzibar Рік тому +9

    So we can all finally agree that Karn should stand by Oko as one of the most poweful planeswalkers of all time.

  • @fo-ef8qo
    @fo-ef8qo Рік тому

    "you got your Shitty Karn in my braids!"
    'You got your braids in my Shitty Karn!'

  • @dinobat1
    @dinobat1 Рік тому

    We’re doing well here, it was just a Rakdos hand😂

  • @wudgethenumbers
    @wudgethenumbers Рік тому

    Anvil is a good deck and Braids is a good addition to it, but Karn is taking Ob's spot as Planeswalker, which makes him a lot less impressive.

  • @liToAgresion
    @liToAgresion Рік тому

    Opened an alt art karn while watching

  • @Atmapalazzo
    @Atmapalazzo Рік тому

    Mono black midrange doesn't really support reliquary, it's just one of the few tech lands in standard.

  • @cordell4920
    @cordell4920 Рік тому

    Audio is off from visual