john brumback is a inspiration to me,ive been workin,practicing doing bankshots,i on fire this afternoon,3 racks,scratched 3 times made a few straight in shots but hammered in some bank shots
You guys are complaining about something you don't understand. I've bought the video. In the video he explains why he's aiming where he does and why he shoots so hard. It's to make it go easier. It's not that the pockets are BIG, it's that he KNOWS how to make them play BIGGER than they actually are. He won the Derby classic, #1 in one pocket and bank pool, and all round best player of the tournament in 2010. This guy knows bank shots. He's not hitting center ball and he's aiming wide to miss, but it goes. If you want to understand why, buy his video. The techniques work. I can vouch for them. The first technique he teaches paid for the video for me. I've shared some of these tips with friends and their ability to bank went way up. But I'm not going to share them all with everyone... if you are too dumb to know a PRO when you see one, skip this video.
bank pool and one pocket separate's The 8 and 9 ball bangers, it drives them crazy, especially one pocket which takes patience's and mastery of all pools skills Especially Banks, kicks, and combinations
heres an even better tip--if someone asks you to play bank pool and theyre from kentucky,ohio, or chicago, just politely decline and walk away...... u may just save a ton of cash.......
I have no doubt you are good pool player. I took lessons from Vernon Elliott, one of the best bankers that ever lived, but you have to admit that table has some giant pockets on it. However, you do a great job. Thanks for sharing!
many years ago i was playing banks at genes pool room in myrtle beach with somebody and i was running alot of 4s and 5s and when i was done, a older man with a white beard asked if i wanted to play--at the time i thought i was hot stuff and i declined , wondering why this old man wanted a good thrashing...... i later found out that it was vern elliot, and i probably would have been the one to take a thrashing--i wish i would have played him---you just never who u may run into playing pool.........
@@donsmith3857 I Jbew Vernon Elliott well. If You could have him to bet cheap then he saw something in your game. He loved to teach and was a talented teacher. Around the pool room in North Ga. we called him Bernie. Truly one of the best pool players I ever seen, ESPECIALLY for big money. He rebelled in large bets. Sounds like you're a good player.
Not quite, regulation pro tournament table was originally 5' x 10', until the mid 1950's when the BCA ruled to reduce the official tournament table size to 4.5 ' x 9'. The reason for this was because pre-1950's, players in most Northern states were playing on the 10 footers tables and players in the Southern states were playing on 9 footers. For years alot of players from the Southern states complained that they were at a disadvantage having to compete in tournaments in the Northern states because they were only accustomed to playing on 9' tables and not the 10 footers, which the BCA gave in and ruled to reduce the regulation table to 9' for all Professional/Amateur tournaments so the table size would be the same for players in all states.
Your both wrong a regulation tabe is twice as long as it is wide no matter the Length now most tournaments are played on a 4.5 by 9 but it can be a 5 by 10 or a 3.5 by seven or even like my home table 4.2by 8.4 an oversized 8 they are all regulation oh and I know this because I have been a pro pool player for 17 years
i was uptown practcing,i was making alot of bankshots then i had a miss run people were watching me,i was getting nervous but this video gets me pumped to continue to practice bankshots
he uses a touch of inside on most of his banks which allows you to make the pocket wider with its angle of entry and he also by having inside English on the cue ball it makes the pocket receive balls easier due to the spin
These type of shots require the conditions of the table to be near perfect. New felt, rails in good shape, and quality balls. In addition, using a soft tip allows him to put an exceptional amount of english on the cue with the slightest of offset.
William Dixon - these are “normal” pockets from the mid 90’s and earlier. The pockets and extended rails came along after Simonis cloth came to America in the late 80’s. Prior to that these were normal pockets about 4⅝”.
As an (especially at the moment) struggling amateur pool player, I notice some very interesting things here. One is the BRIDGE LENGTH this guy employs, it is MASSIVELY long, if you'll permit the mixed units. The other is the mechanics of his stroke are just gorgeous. Look at the acceleration of that cue THROUGH the shot, always exactly the same, and with a bridge length like that, you'd BETTER have exquisite control. The other thing I notice is what I get SOOOO TIRED of hearing from EVERYONE at the pool hall is that I bank too hard. I have found that most bank champions DO THAT, they don't smash the rails to nothing every shot, but they do hit them VERY firmly,. INCLUDING Mosconi. I believe they do this for a few good reasons, and I have found them to help. One is on a cross bank to the side, the higher speed hit SHORTENS the angle off the rail, so you aim beyond the normal rolling bank angle to get to the pocket, which effectively INCREASES the size of the pocket geometrically...i.e. bigger pocket straight on vs. high angle path to pocket where at some point it becomes unmakable on a direct path. Another is you DON'T HAVE to compensate your aim for rolling vs. sliding ball (that angle shortening) unless absolutely necessary to be a rolling ball to bypass a blocker, or for cue placement. Another I find is that the table differences seem to have less of an effect at high speed on the rails than low. If there are any A level/semi pro level players out there that would like to comment on this, please do.
As for the long stroke, if I could share an anecdote I think it might help you understand the fundamentals behind it. When I started taking pool seriously the only pool hall near me was a mexican one. Nobody minded me being there, but very little english was spoken by most of the clientele including the owner. After maybe a year of regular practice the owner, who was himself a dynamite player, began to try and give me tips. One of the things he would always tell me, especially when I was using english, was to, "push" the ball. It never really clicked with me, and I thought something was being lost in the translation. Then a couple years later I watched a snooker video which slowed down a pro's shot to thousandths of a second. Turns out, well struck balls spend more time in contact with the cue tip. If you couple this fact with a nice long follow through, what you also have is a far more accurate stroke. Pushing a shot is illegal in pool,...but all good strokes push the ball a little, they do this by pulling the stick forward so that the weight of it is trailing. This is why you will see some very good players with very interesting non bridge hand action, reyes and bustamante as well as van boening come to mind. A long stroke with a nice follow through and a little bit of push, vs a short stroke stab: it's like comparing landing a 747 on an aircraft carrier vs landing a fighter jet on a 4 mile runway. As for the bank angles and speeds. Balls will open up at slower speeds when they are cut. But what really dictates bank angle when concerning speed is the rail itself. The rubber bumpers shoot hard hit balls back straighter, so much so that you can negate some serious degrees by rifling the ball. Slowing the shot down will get the rail to react more normal. If you are cutting a ball into a bank, you have to compensate for counterspin into the rail, which means over cut the ball. If you are cutting into a bank too much the degree of accuracy is really really low so avoid it at all costs. Hope this helped.
@@jimmyd6595 Yes, interesting stuff. I will look into the first "pushing" part of what you discuss there further, and try to incorporate it. Efren is my favorite overall to watch, but of course there are many others, and Busty is definitely one of them. I was watching Justin Hall play some one pocket at my local hall (Clicks Casselberry, Fl.) the other day, and the shots he was consistently making were shots I would be 10-20% at..combo bank caroms, etc. ... BONKERS! The consistency of the ENTIRE aspect of shot making (which I'm convinced is one of the MAIN differences in pros to the rest of us, along with knowledge and unending "heart") was a sight to behold, and stroke consistency and capabilities are the basis for it, I think. I asked him about playing "bonus ball" and he put it at his number two favorite game after one pocket. Go take a look at it if you haven't and want to see some really interesting strategy pool, it was a beautifully designed game, I thought, with aspects of snooker, rotation, and eight ball included, with other additions like a game clock. Lots of fun to watch, shame it didn't catch on better. The intent was to make a more non knowledgeable spectator sport. Many of the greats played it...Appleton, Frost, Archer, and on and on. Forgive the tangent there. I still suck (probably a c/b player), even after working hard at this game for about 6 years now, but I'm always learning, and appreciate your input. I'm an engineer, and have a pretty good background in physics, and it's pretty obvious there ARE some subtle things going on in really well struck balls, happens to me on occasion, where the action is just magnificent, and I see good pros pull that stuff out and strut it all the time. One physics oriented site I really like is Dr. Dave from Col State. He has sections in there that show ultra slow mo of different stroke "actions" that are enlightening, to say the least. He dispels a lot of "rules of thumb" and supports others through these videos, and unlike me, has a GOOD grasp of physics. I'll let you know if it helped when I finish getting a handle on it and get to the table to try to implement it. Thanks again for the reply. People in pool are frequently more than willing to share hard got "secrets", one of the great things about this unendingly learnable "sport of physics and FUN" and micro and macro technique(s). We gotta get some of these "video game" kids interesting in some actual "real" sports, and I don't see nearly enough playing pool, though there are a few really impressive ones rising.
a question..are the pocket width different on other pool tables? like a bar pay table 7 ft compared to a 9ft diamond tounament,i npticed the heighth on a diamond 9 ft table sits higher than bar 7 ft table...why is that?
thats a bank pool stroke--eddie taylor had it too..........spaeth--bugs truman cornbread---donny anderson had a different stroke, soft at times but no less deadly.........
Yeah! I watched a brilliant video on Eddie Taylor, and another brilliant video by Chicago Bugs Rucker - they both have a crisp, concise action. Never thought to connect those dots. Any other good bank players to look out for?
This video had very little instruction, I thought. Outside of the one bank up and down the table lengthwise, where John suggests employing only a half tip of right english, rather than loading it up with English. Outside of that, in my opinion, he didn't give much instruction, and certainly he divulged no real "secrets". In my opinion, the real secret to banking with high proficiency, and in learning the different types of banks, is in practicing them. Practice them over and over, until the muscle memory and the shot angles become second nature to you. That leads to the next point, which is about shot speed in banking. When banking, there are several various factors to be considered, and each can alter the object balls angle, or direction off of the cushion. Things such as the object balls proximity to the cushion, amount and type of English being applied to the cue ball, even usinng follow or draw can make a difference. Of course, the cut angle and the speed at which the shot is made are critical. By using a consistent speed on all of your bank shots, as much as possible, one is effectively eliminating one of those variables; and thus, it is that much easier to learn the variety of banks by having to calculate one fewer variable needing to be assessed, learned, and remembered. Since consistency is what one is always trying to achieve at pool, by using a consistent speed on one's bank shots, it is then very helpful in that pursuit in simplifying the process, and therefore in helping to maintain a level of consistency. Besides learning the various shots through constant repetition, I would say, that using the same, firm, consistent speed on one's bank shots, as much as possible, is the next most important factor in learning to bank successfully. The long bridge that John uses, btw, is something that he no doubt learned to use effectively, only by putting in lots and lots of hours at the table. And, by working to keep his mechanics as flawless as he has. Again, we are talking here about consistency! Also, by stroking well through the cue ball, rather than using a poke, or a jab stroke, the cue tip remains on the cue ball a little longer, thus helping to impart more english to the cue ball, especially when it is vitally needed. And it gives the shooter a bit more control on the shot, as well. A fine point that is often overlooked, or not even known about, by the amateur. Efren is a master of this technique, amongst many others. The other important factor that banking with a firm stroke produces is that it "closes" down the angle coming off of the rail. In other words, the degree of the angle is lessened, and therefore making the angle a little more easily "readable". And, it can reduce the amount throw that is induced on the object ball, especially in certain instances. Again, this is one variable that can either be lessened or eliminated, thus achieving greater consistency on your banks. Certain banks can be considerably more difficult to read at the slower speeds; where as few, if any, angles are harder to assess at a greater speed. I would suggest setting up different bank shots, and try practicing them at varying speeds, and seeing what the differences are until they become easily repeatable. And in discerning the level of difficulty one finds on each speed being used. It's my guess, that you'll quickly discover the efficacy of using the firm stroke in helping you to achieve a higher percentage of success in your bank shots. One last note: In many cases, the addition of a specific english can be helpful on some bank shots. But, keep in mind, that by staying with a center ball stroke on a regular basis, until once you have more thoroughly learned those angles through repetition of execution, the addition of english only further complicates the bank shots, and can add to the difficulty and confusion in learning your banking repertoire. By staying only with center ball for a time, one more variable is eliminated or reduced, and consistency can more easily be achieved. Once these shots become ingrained, then experiment with english, and learn the various amount of throw that english will induce on the object ball, and how it effects how it will come off of the rail. The alteration of the angle can be pretty dramatic on bank shots, especially at the slower speeds; as well as it being quite helpful, at times. Practice those bank shots until you can practically make them blind folded. And try not to get too concerned with all the technical stuff right off. Repetition and proper execution are the keys to consistency. And that's what it takes to be a winner! Good luck! And don't forget to always have fun.
John did you use to play in Louisville Ky. at Parkmoor Bowling Alley in the pool room on the big tables, I'm sure i sen you many times playing with Truman and you know how good he is, these people that make stupid comments on here probable could,nt make one out of ten bank shots and still want to critique some one else.I played bank with Truman some times and all ways enjoyed watching him play.
Good shooting but the pockets definitely seem to be a little wide on that table, a few of those shots hit like half a diamond before the pocket, at those speeds not sure if they would have went in on tighter pockets
maybe because it's a standard Brunswick Gold Crown 3 from the mid to late 1980's, plus the table has new cloth on it and probably new ball set and so, the table and particularly the pockets will be alot more forgiving for the 1st 2/3 weeks of play.
What's wrong with pool? If one of the best pro-golfers made a video to help people with their game everyone would honor it and use the video as a source of inspiration. Do this in the pool-world and thousands of nameless trolls leave negative comments on the video. Why?
Go get accustats video of his and other bankers and see how much he really knows and when won the world title it was against 400+ of the best in the country and was on very tight equipment
John won the derby all around banks, 9 ball, and one pocket one year and banks at least one other time if not two other times. He does well most years against the best players in the world, so I give little credit to those here who are keyboard warriors..
Can someone explain to me why it's so different to play a double on a 9 ball table than on an English pool table or snooker table? The cushions seem to play so different
It's quite easy to explain really. The rails (cushions) on a pool table form a 'knife edge' where the upper and lower surfaces meet, which means that the part that actually contacts the ball is very narrow like a point. On a snooker table the fascia of the rails is much much broader - more like 1/4" making the contact surface bigger and therefore more rail/cushion is in contact with the ball at the moment of impact. This results in a totally different throw of the ball after rebound. On a pool table spin is imparted on the ball in the OPPOSITE direction to it's travel after it's first rebound, making the ball travel BACK on itself, hence the 'reverse' shot being possible. On a snooker table, owing to the flatter fascia, the spin imparted is much less, so the ball will continue to travel in the SAME direction as the first bounce, up or down the table, or to one side or the other. The amount of rebound will obviously lessen, the more bounces that occur, but it will always be in the same direction, whereas on a pool table, the cushions sort of 'cancel each other out' in effect. No two tables play the same so it pays to study the amount of throw in each case but usually the harder a ball is struck into the rails, the less will be the rebound angle as the rubber in each case will absorb some of the throw and on a pool table, the more pronounced is the 'reversed' effect. This is why professional SNOOKER players rarely play on a table with anything other than STEEL BLOCK rails/cushions. This is so that the rebound is not only way more consistent, but also has the maximum throw possible, owing to the steel being totally rigid behind the rubber rail, whereas wood (i.e. pool and 'club' tables) will still absorb the merest fraction of energy from the ball, resulting in inferior bounce and angles. Snooker pros really ARE that good at noticing the difference so don't think it's an excuse. I hope this helps. Steel block cushion tables are VERY expensive so if you can find one, make good use of it!!
@ 2:00 the throw bank shot is a difficult shot. I tried it and it will go 1 in 10 tries for me. And the times I mis the ball does not come back and I do not know why? I do the same thing every time but 1 in 10 it will grab and come back to the pocket. I am not sure what is causing this to happen? As it seems I am doing the same thing each shot. with different results?? The ball is not spinning so I believe it stuns the object ball,,and when it hits the rail while stunned it grabs. If the speed is not correct,,and the stun is not there,,it dont grab? By stun I mean the object ball is kinda sliding along the cloth,,and rail contact puts reverse spin on it?? If the ball is rolling and not sliding,,it will not grab at all. I am asking??? It is a wierd shot for sure
To assume you are doing the same thing every time but accomplishing different results, is your learning opportunity. Your key lesson to learn is not speed this and stun that and too much etc etc... You need to focus on spin transfer....turn of the object ball. The key elements... Your cb MUST adhere to the cloth...any bounce of the cb, even slightly and forget about it. TURN rather than spin is what you want. The faster or more side revolutions per foot of travel with the cb, the harder it is to transfer spin to the object ball. Don't think in terms of stun. Think in terms of "grab". Equator to equator contact or "collision" means a cue ball that is sliding or traveling on the cloth...look at all John's point of contact collision of cb to ob and you can see its clean, no bounce or climb or lift ...because elastic friction at the point of collision can make a cb climb upward of the object ball equator and or make the ob lift upward...like with cb draw spin but not a clean travel in terms of cb speed forward ÷ back spin rpm and therefore the ob recognizes more stun grab but less actual cb back spin in relation and slightly grabs and lifts the object ball upward off the cloth first, rather than forward with top spin because of cb transfer of back spin... This takes us to the importance of level cueing or better yet, tip acceleration which of course, everything i touched on...nobody talks about or explains... I've only scratched the surface...
ericou812 Should be no English on the cue ball. you want to use middle cb as much as possible when banking. He will use draw and follow from time to time, but it is always center follow and draw.
Not being familiar with Brumback, I did a little Google. I DO know Scott Frost, though. If Brumback can beat him, he can beat anyone commenting on this thread. He's in the One Pocket Hall of Fame and won Derby City banks two years in row. Good enough for me.
It's a cool shot, but I feel with the amount of time spent repeating the same shot over and over, about 9 1/2 minutes of this video is rather redundant.
I'm just saying, It's boring watching the same shot repeated as many times as these shots were. If somebody needs to see the shot over and over and over again, they can do that by going back to any particular point in the video and re-watching that segment. so there doesn't need to be as much repetition as there is in this video.
Because this is one small segment from an hour instructional video. And the bank being shown looks easy b/c this guy is the best banker in the world, but it is very tricky. The several views are showing you how he's hitting the object ball, where the object ball is hitting the rail, how the natural english is throwing the object back back towards the pocket. Believe me, if you can bank this particular shot 1/4 of the time, you are a high level pool player.
Well, I refer to him as a pro player so of course I didn't mean he wasn't a pro at anything. I just meant he isn't a pro in regards to games that require more control over the cue ball. But yeah, he is going to be pretty good at one pocket or any game requiring you to bank a ton but not necessarily lose if you don't leave the white ball perfectly each shot.
***** Actually, I think it is you that needs to brush up on the competition. 8-ball is not part of it. It is one-pocket, bank pool and 9 ball. The first two would be perfect for a bank shot artist... as I have already pointed out. So, him winning the Derby City Classic shouldn't be a surprise. What should be a surprise is that he doesn't win it every year. Btw, you could technically win the classic without placing first in ANY of the three games. Not claiming he didn't... just pointing out that you don't have to be the very best in all three games in order to win. Anyway, I think you are trying to take us WAY off track here. I claimed he was a bank shot artist... he claims he is a bank shot artist... THAT is his specialty. Never claimed he couldn't play other games. Just that they aren't his specialty compared to pros in those other games. And regardless, my main point has nothing to do with any of that anyway. I was just saying that most of these shots are pretty basic. Doesn't mean he can't do better ones... just that the ones shown are basic.
Actually the pockets are just under 4 3/4 the wide angle lens makes them look a litlle bigger then they are, the spin on the ball makes it want to go in the hole. The new cloth helped some but mostly it is knowing what you are doing that makes them play big. Mark
LOL anybody can do a 1 bank shot,my fav is 3 bank of the quarter of the table & 3 banks the long ways of the table & my favorite is 4 bank back,1 bank is like a straight in shot & doubling up & dropping down that's a fluke shot,dropping the ball straight in is a proper play,anybody can play 1 banks shot & thinking doubling up & dropping down is a good shot,Plz....when I 1st played at our pool hall back in 87,my cousin ask me what's your call on the 8 & I said 1 bank & he laughed & said it's like a straight in shot but ok your call & as time went on I learned too bank 2 or more & straight in not doubling up & dropping LOL
How the hell does he transfer side from the cue ball to the object ball? I didn't think it was even physically possible. If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes I wouldn't have believed it. I am amazed.
Yeah, sort of, but he gives info in the first couple minutes, if you add compressing the rail with a firm hit, you can learn that part or banking and apply it to others.
He is a top rate thinker and teacher and player. But that table is as loose as some of the girls waiting backstage at a Grand Funk Rail Road concert. Which is a good thing too, but not quite reality.
I mean no disrespect, he could make that shoot 9 out of 10 times but put a 1,000 dollars on it. Lets see if pressure from 1 grand would make him see double, how about 10 grand. Money in pool makes the difference, it truly separates the players from other people. I'm not saying non players can't gamble but this man is obviously a player. Now would I bet him a 1,000 a bank. Not on that table but on a tight table, you bet! I mean come on, in frame 5:31, he hits the first diamond and still makes the ball. Again no disrespect intended, just calling it like I see it.
@@drix2696 lol, I haven't played serious pool since 1992, and when I played I still was no match for this man. However, in 1992, I assure you, I could have got someone to play this man and bet what you want.
Google John Brumback, I'm pretty sure he banks well under pressure. ◊ 2006 BCA Banks Champion ◊ 2007 US Open Banks Champion ◊ 2009 Derby City Classic Banks Champion ◊ 2009 Derby City Classic Master of the Table ◊ 2010 Derby City Classic Banks Champion ◊ 2011 (Oct) Red Shoes Full Rack Banks Champion ◊ 2011 (Dec) Red Shoes Full Rack Banks Champion ◊ 2012 Michael's Billiards Full Rack Bank Champion ◊ 2012 Brickyard Billiards Full Rack Bank Champion ◊ 2015 Derby City Classic Bank Pool Runner-Up ◊ 2016 Derby City Classic Bank Pool Champion
I bought the video. There are more than one secret in the video. This is just a demo from the video. I won't recommend this video because I don't want you to learn what I learned LOL. Don't buy it so you can't use it against me... I've already become a better player because of this video. (wait! no, it doesn't work... don't buy it!) I paid $50 + shipping and I've already won the money back in a single tournament. Don't bother practicing banks... it's a waste of your time. Let me practice for you
ya know i keep seeing alot of flack about john brumback on this video. let me just say something right now. you can sit here and debate all you want too about how some of those shots wouldnt go on a tight pocket table and he got lucky on this and that. the FACT of the matter is he is a world bankpool champion. if you think he is so lucky then go play him. i bet he will shut you up and if you would buy the video he explains why some of those shots go.
Not knocking the guy, but this video isn't very instructional. Just watching a guy do bank shots doesnt help me at all. I can watch this anywhere. If this video is supposed to instructional you get a HUGE FAIL!! If it is supposed be for show off purposes you get a HUGE WIN.
john brumback is a inspiration to me,ive been workin,practicing doing bankshots,i on fire this afternoon,3 racks,scratched 3 times made a few straight in shots but hammered in some bank shots
You guys are complaining about something you don't understand. I've bought the video. In the video he explains why he's aiming where he does and why he shoots so hard. It's to make it go easier. It's not that the pockets are BIG, it's that he KNOWS how to make them play BIGGER than they actually are. He won the Derby classic, #1 in one pocket and bank pool, and all round best player of the tournament in 2010. This guy knows bank shots. He's not hitting center ball and he's aiming wide to miss, but it goes. If you want to understand why, buy his video. The techniques work. I can vouch for them. The first technique he teaches paid for the video for me. I've shared some of these tips with friends and their ability to bank went way up. But I'm not going to share them all with everyone... if you are too dumb to know a PRO when you see one, skip this video.
Douglas Schultz cool
Old black man taught me about twisting your cue on impact..ob literally curves
douglas, one to the best bankers in the world RIP Vernon Elliott focus like you said on center english. You are correct!
bank pool and one pocket separate's The 8 and 9 ball bangers, it drives them crazy, especially one pocket which takes patience's and mastery of all pools skills Especially Banks, kicks, and combinations
R Mo your 1000% right
heres an even better tip--if someone asks you to play bank pool and theyre from kentucky,ohio, or chicago, just politely decline and walk away...... u may just save a ton of cash.......
Darn good advice.
I have no doubt you are good pool player. I took lessons from Vernon Elliott, one of the best bankers that ever lived, but you have to admit that table has some giant pockets on it. However, you do a great job. Thanks for sharing!
many years ago i was playing banks at genes pool room in myrtle beach with somebody and i was running alot of 4s and 5s and when i was done, a older man with a white beard asked if i wanted to play--at the time i thought i was hot stuff and i declined , wondering why this old man wanted a good thrashing...... i later found out that it was vern elliot, and i probably would have been the one to take a thrashing--i wish i would have played him---you just never who u may run into playing pool.........
@@donsmith3857 I Jbew Vernon Elliott well. If You could have him to bet cheap then he saw something in your game. He loved to teach and was a talented teacher. Around the pool room in North Ga. we called him Bernie. Truly one of the best pool players I ever seen, ESPECIALLY for big money. He rebelled in large bets. Sounds like you're a good player.
all you guys with the negative feedback seem to forget this mans a world champion n plus a regulation pool table is and always was a nine footer
Not quite, regulation pro tournament table was originally 5' x 10', until the mid 1950's when the BCA ruled to reduce the official tournament table size to 4.5 ' x 9'.
The reason for this was because pre-1950's, players in most Northern states were playing on the 10 footers tables and players in the Southern states were playing on 9 footers.
For years alot of players from the Southern states complained that they were at a disadvantage having to compete in tournaments in the Northern states because they were only accustomed to playing on 9' tables and not the 10 footers, which the BCA gave in and ruled to reduce the regulation table to 9' for all Professional/Amateur tournaments so the table size would be the same for players in all states.
Your both wrong a regulation tabe is twice as long as it is wide no matter the Length now most tournaments are played on a 4.5 by 9 but it can be a 5 by 10 or a 3.5 by seven or even like my home table 4.2by 8.4 an oversized 8 they are all regulation oh and I know this because I have been a pro pool player for 17 years
@@thepoolmaster8683 what's your name
i was uptown practcing,i was making alot of bankshots then i had a miss run people were watching me,i was getting nervous but this video gets me pumped to continue to practice bankshots
bring headphones. tune them out. get your concentration up
he uses a touch of inside on most of his banks which allows you to make the pocket wider with its angle of entry and he also by having inside English on the cue ball it makes the pocket receive balls easier due to the spin
As as snooker player I´m a total noob when it comes to bank shots, but even i can see the skill and knowledge behind his performence. Amazing!
Omg this gent is a natural, cb control... Awesome
wow, so many haters. how can you dis a man with so much skill? and that accent and smile!!! i love it!
That is an amazing shot! Thanks😎👍👍👍
Anyone knocking John can certainly get up and play him on any table. I'm sure he'd be willing.
That awkward smile at 1:08 HA!
These type of shots require the conditions of the table to be near perfect. New felt, rails in good shape, and quality balls. In addition, using a soft tip allows him to put an exceptional amount of english on the cue with the slightest of offset.
Now this is a good point and did you notice the size of these pockets? I mean bigger than normal.
William Dixon - these are “normal” pockets from the mid 90’s and earlier.
The pockets and extended rails came along after Simonis cloth came to America in the late 80’s. Prior to that these were normal pockets about 4⅝”.
Huge pockets and new felt balls makes drop that normally would not went on most 9 footers. But still some on the best banking I have seen. wow.
WOW! GALING MO CHONG!
This is definitely a shot to practice...
at 6:10 did 4 ball kinda curve around the 6 ball?
As an (especially at the moment) struggling amateur pool player, I notice some very interesting things here. One is the BRIDGE LENGTH this guy employs, it is MASSIVELY long, if you'll permit the mixed units. The other is the mechanics of his stroke are just gorgeous. Look at the acceleration of that cue THROUGH the shot, always exactly the same, and with a bridge length like that, you'd BETTER have exquisite control. The other thing I notice is what I get SOOOO TIRED of hearing from EVERYONE at the pool hall is that I bank too hard. I have found that most bank champions DO THAT, they don't smash the rails to nothing every shot, but they do hit them VERY firmly,. INCLUDING Mosconi.
I believe they do this for a few good reasons, and I have found them to help. One is on a cross bank to the side, the higher speed hit SHORTENS the angle off the rail, so you aim beyond the normal rolling bank angle to get to the pocket, which effectively INCREASES the size of the pocket geometrically...i.e. bigger pocket straight on vs. high angle path to pocket where at some point it becomes unmakable on a direct path. Another is you DON'T HAVE to compensate your aim for rolling vs. sliding ball (that angle shortening) unless absolutely necessary to be a rolling ball to bypass a blocker, or for cue placement. Another I find is that the table differences seem to have less of an effect at high speed on the rails than low.
If there are any A level/semi pro level players out there that would like to comment on this, please do.
As for the long stroke, if I could share an anecdote I think it might help you understand the fundamentals behind it.
When I started taking pool seriously the only pool hall near me was a mexican one. Nobody minded me being there, but very little english was spoken by most of the clientele including the owner. After maybe a year of regular practice the owner, who was himself a dynamite player, began to try and give me tips. One of the things he would always tell me, especially when I was using english, was to, "push" the ball. It never really clicked with me, and I thought something was being lost in the translation. Then a couple years later I watched a snooker video which slowed down a pro's shot to thousandths of a second. Turns out, well struck balls spend more time in contact with the cue tip. If you couple this fact with a nice long follow through, what you also have is a far more accurate stroke. Pushing a shot is illegal in pool,...but all good strokes push the ball a little, they do this by pulling the stick forward so that the weight of it is trailing. This is why you will see some very good players with very interesting non bridge hand action, reyes and bustamante as well as van boening come to mind.
A long stroke with a nice follow through and a little bit of push, vs a short stroke stab: it's like comparing landing a 747 on an aircraft carrier vs landing a fighter jet on a 4 mile runway.
As for the bank angles and speeds. Balls will open up at slower speeds when they are cut. But what really dictates bank angle when concerning speed is the rail itself. The rubber bumpers shoot hard hit balls back straighter, so much so that you can negate some serious degrees by rifling the ball. Slowing the shot down will get the rail to react more normal. If you are cutting a ball into a bank, you have to compensate for counterspin into the rail, which means over cut the ball. If you are cutting into a bank too much the degree of accuracy is really really low so avoid it at all costs. Hope this helped.
@@jimmyd6595 Yes, interesting stuff. I will look into the first "pushing" part of what you discuss there further, and try to incorporate it. Efren is my favorite overall to watch, but of course there are many others, and Busty is definitely one of them.
I was watching Justin Hall play some one pocket at my local hall (Clicks Casselberry, Fl.) the other day, and the shots he was consistently making were shots I would be 10-20% at..combo bank caroms, etc. ... BONKERS! The consistency of the ENTIRE aspect of shot making (which I'm convinced is one of the MAIN differences in pros to the rest of us, along with knowledge and unending "heart") was a sight to behold, and stroke consistency and capabilities are the basis for it, I think. I asked him about playing "bonus ball" and he put it at his number two favorite game after one pocket. Go take a look at it if you haven't and want to see some really interesting strategy pool, it was a beautifully designed game, I thought, with aspects of snooker, rotation, and eight ball included, with other additions like a game clock. Lots of fun to watch, shame it didn't catch on better. The intent was to make a more non knowledgeable spectator sport. Many of the greats played it...Appleton, Frost, Archer, and on and on. Forgive the tangent there.
I still suck (probably a c/b player), even after working hard at this game for about 6 years now, but I'm always learning, and appreciate your input. I'm an engineer, and have a pretty good background in physics, and it's pretty obvious there ARE some subtle things going on in really well struck balls, happens to me on occasion, where the action is just magnificent, and I see good pros pull that stuff out and strut it all the time.
One physics oriented site I really like is Dr. Dave from Col State. He has sections in there that show ultra slow mo of different stroke "actions" that are enlightening, to say the least. He dispels a lot of "rules of thumb" and supports others through these videos, and unlike me, has a GOOD grasp of physics.
I'll let you know if it helped when I finish getting a handle on it and get to the table to try to implement it. Thanks again for the reply. People in pool are frequently more than willing to share hard got "secrets", one of the great things about this unendingly learnable "sport of physics and FUN" and micro and macro technique(s). We gotta get some of these "video game" kids interesting in some actual "real" sports, and I don't see nearly enough playing pool, though there are a few really impressive ones rising.
its his style and stroke
almost all pros these days use that long stroke...... it hasnt always been like that though........
I'm not an A level or semi pro player, so I guess I'll keep my opinion to myself.
a question..are the pocket width different on other pool tables? like a bar pay table 7 ft compared to a 9ft diamond tounament,i npticed the heighth on a diamond 9 ft table sits higher than bar 7 ft table...why is that?
Wooooow!
Congrats!
do bank shots where you have to cut the object ball realy thin on a corner pocket
Thats just amazing.
Cool sounds and vlog thank you
Those pockets are pretty standard, not tight, but not loose either. He knows how to use sidespin to make the pockets play bigger.
What a lovely clean stroke.
thats a bank pool stroke--eddie taylor had it too..........spaeth--bugs truman cornbread---donny anderson had a different stroke, soft at times but no less deadly.........
Yeah!
I watched a brilliant video on Eddie Taylor, and another brilliant video by Chicago Bugs Rucker - they both have a crisp, concise action.
Never thought to connect those dots.
Any other good bank players to look out for?
Gary Spaeth was a good friend of mine. I'm sure John crossed paths with Gary more than once.
gary was an absolute bank MONSTER--just a terror at banks and pretty good at 9 ball too.........
Where can I get this soundtrack? Never heard fire that toasty. :-p
This video had very little instruction, I thought. Outside of the one bank up and down the table lengthwise, where John suggests employing only a half tip of right english, rather than loading it up with English. Outside of that, in my opinion, he didn't give much instruction, and certainly he divulged no real "secrets".
In my opinion, the real secret to banking with high proficiency, and in learning the different types of banks, is in practicing them. Practice them over and over, until the muscle memory and the shot angles become second nature to you. That leads to the next point, which is about shot speed in banking. When banking, there are several various factors to be considered, and each can alter the object balls angle, or direction off of the cushion. Things such as the object balls proximity to the cushion, amount and type of English being applied to the cue ball, even usinng follow or draw can make a difference. Of course, the cut angle and the speed at which the shot is made are critical. By using a consistent speed on all of your bank shots, as much as possible, one is effectively eliminating one of those variables; and thus, it is that much easier to learn the variety of banks by having to calculate one fewer variable needing to be assessed, learned, and remembered. Since consistency is what one is always trying to achieve at pool, by using a consistent speed on one's bank shots, it is then very helpful in that pursuit in simplifying the process, and therefore in helping to maintain a level of consistency. Besides learning the various shots through constant repetition, I would say, that using the same, firm, consistent speed on one's bank shots, as much as possible, is the next most important factor in learning to bank successfully.
The long bridge that John uses, btw, is something that he no doubt learned to use effectively, only by putting in lots and lots of hours at the table. And, by working to keep his mechanics as flawless as he has. Again, we are talking here about consistency! Also, by stroking well through the cue ball, rather than using a poke, or a jab stroke, the cue tip remains on the cue ball a little longer, thus helping to impart more english to the cue ball, especially when it is vitally needed. And it gives the shooter a bit more control on the shot, as well. A fine point that is often overlooked, or not even known about, by the amateur. Efren is a master of this technique, amongst many others.
The other important factor that banking with a firm stroke produces is that it "closes" down the angle coming off of the rail. In other words, the degree of the angle is lessened, and therefore making the angle a little more easily "readable". And, it can reduce the amount throw that is induced on the object ball, especially in certain instances. Again, this is one variable that can either be lessened or eliminated, thus achieving greater consistency on your banks. Certain banks can be considerably more difficult to read at the slower speeds; where as few, if any, angles are harder to assess at a greater speed. I would suggest setting up different bank shots, and try practicing them at varying speeds, and seeing what the differences are until they become easily repeatable. And in discerning the level of difficulty one finds on each speed being used. It's my guess, that you'll quickly discover the efficacy of using the firm stroke in helping you to achieve a higher percentage of success in your bank shots.
One last note: In many cases, the addition of a specific english can be helpful on some bank shots. But, keep in mind, that by staying with a center ball stroke on a regular basis, until once you have more thoroughly learned those angles through repetition of execution, the addition of english only further complicates the bank shots, and can add to the difficulty and confusion in learning your banking repertoire. By staying only with center ball for a time, one more variable is eliminated or reduced, and consistency can more easily be achieved. Once these shots become ingrained, then experiment with english, and learn the various amount of throw that english will induce on the object ball, and how it effects how it will come off of the rail. The alteration of the angle can be pretty dramatic on bank shots, especially at the slower speeds; as well as it being quite helpful, at times.
Practice those bank shots until you can practically make them blind folded. And try not to get too concerned with all the technical stuff right off. Repetition and proper execution are the keys to consistency. And that's what it takes to be a winner!
Good luck! And don't forget to always have fun.
Show us where to hit cueball please
Fantastic stuff
Nice to learn playing pool better
John did you use to play in Louisville Ky. at Parkmoor Bowling Alley in the pool room on the big tables, I'm sure i sen you many times playing with Truman and you know how good he is, these people that make stupid comments on here probable could,nt make one out of ten bank shots and still want to critique some one else.I played bank with Truman some times and all ways enjoyed watching him play.
John said that good bank players shoot them that way on purpose! He explains the reason on the DVD.
its because the cusion absorbs the ball an comes out at a different angle. Why no 2 rail banks pros dont use thoes?
Brilliant bank shots but at times you did not demonstrate the que ball position.
nice skill... but when are you gonna teach us how to bank good :)
Mostafa Mamdouh my thoughts exactly!
This is Sweet✌
He's slamming them pretty hard. Dampens the angle and makes the pockets bigger.
kchiang4 - that’s how you hit the ball in banks.
***Fatboy Approved***
John is a living legend.
Thanks for the upload. YTM!
Good shooting but the pockets definitely seem to be a little wide on that table, a few of those shots hit like half a diamond before the pocket, at those speeds not sure if they would have went in on tighter pockets
maybe because it's a standard Brunswick Gold Crown 3 from the mid to late 1980's, plus the table has new cloth on it and probably new ball set and so, the table and particularly the pockets will be alot more forgiving for the 1st 2/3 weeks of play.
Some great shots but many were misses if not for HUGE pockets.
Still an excellent player and bets ive seen
@8:19 get the man some chalk lol
What’s a dvd? Nice commercial
Awesome
What's wrong with pool?
If one of the best pro-golfers made a video to help people with their game everyone would honor it and use the video as a source of inspiration.
Do this in the pool-world and thousands of nameless trolls leave negative comments on the video.
Why?
Go get accustats video of his and other bankers and see how much he really knows and when won the world title it was against 400+ of the best in the country and was on very tight equipment
your hitting the object ball head on?
Imagine him and eddie Taylor against each other shooting at their peek.
a.k.a. a intricate bank shot.
just so right!
John won the derby all around banks, 9 ball, and one pocket one year and banks at least one other time if not two other times. He does well most years against the best players in the world, so I give little credit to those here who are keyboard warriors..
Can someone explain to me why it's so different to play a double on a 9 ball table than on an English pool table or snooker table? The cushions seem to play so different
It's quite easy to explain really. The rails (cushions) on a pool table form a 'knife edge' where the upper and lower surfaces meet, which means that the part that actually contacts the ball is very narrow like a point. On a snooker table the fascia of the rails is much much broader - more like 1/4" making the contact surface bigger and therefore more rail/cushion is in contact with the ball at the moment of impact. This results in a totally different throw of the ball after rebound. On a pool table spin is imparted on the ball in the OPPOSITE direction to it's travel after it's first rebound, making the ball travel BACK on itself, hence the 'reverse' shot being possible. On a snooker table, owing to the flatter fascia, the spin imparted is much less, so the ball will continue to travel in the SAME direction as the first bounce, up or down the table, or to one side or the other. The amount of rebound will obviously lessen, the more bounces that occur, but it will always be in the same direction, whereas on a pool table, the cushions sort of 'cancel each other out' in effect. No two tables play the same so it pays to study the amount of throw in each case but usually the harder a ball is struck into the rails, the less will be the rebound angle as the rubber in each case will absorb some of the throw and on a pool table, the more pronounced is the 'reversed' effect. This is why professional SNOOKER players rarely play on a table with anything other than STEEL BLOCK rails/cushions. This is so that the rebound is not only way more consistent, but also has the maximum throw possible, owing to the steel being totally rigid behind the rubber rail, whereas wood (i.e. pool and 'club' tables) will still absorb the merest fraction of energy from the ball, resulting in inferior bounce and angles. Snooker pros really ARE that good at noticing the difference so don't think it's an excuse. I hope this helps. Steel block cushion tables are VERY expensive so if you can find one, make good use of it!!
Thanks, been playing snooker for years and when I started playing 9 ball a couple weeks back I couldn't seem to make a double.
@ 2:00 the throw bank shot is a difficult shot. I tried it and it will go 1 in 10 tries for me. And the times I mis the ball does not come back and I do not know why? I do the same thing every time but 1 in 10 it will grab and come back to the pocket.
I am not sure what is causing this to happen? As it seems I am doing the same thing each shot. with different results??
The ball is not spinning so I believe it stuns the object ball,,and when it hits the rail while stunned it grabs. If the speed is not correct,,and the stun is not there,,it dont grab? By stun I mean the object ball is kinda sliding along the cloth,,and rail contact puts reverse spin on it?? If the ball is rolling and not sliding,,it will not grab at all. I am asking??? It is a wierd shot for sure
To assume you are doing the same thing every time but accomplishing different results, is your learning opportunity.
Your key lesson to learn is not speed this and stun that and too much etc etc...
You need to focus on spin transfer....turn of the object ball.
The key elements...
Your cb MUST adhere to the cloth...any bounce of the cb, even slightly and forget about it.
TURN rather than spin is what you want.
The faster or more side revolutions per foot of travel with the cb, the harder it is to transfer spin to the object ball.
Don't think in terms of stun. Think in terms of "grab".
Equator to equator contact or "collision" means a cue ball that is sliding or traveling on the cloth...look at all John's point of contact collision of cb to ob and you can see its clean, no bounce or climb or lift ...because elastic friction at the point of collision can make a cb climb upward of the object ball equator and or make the ob lift upward...like with cb draw spin but not a clean travel in terms of cb speed forward ÷ back spin rpm and therefore the ob recognizes more stun grab but less actual cb back spin in relation and slightly grabs and lifts the object ball upward off the cloth first, rather than forward with top spin because of cb transfer of back spin...
This takes us to the importance of level cueing or better yet, tip acceleration which of course, everything i touched on...nobody talks about or explains...
I've only scratched the surface...
I asked a man 20 years ago, can i play banks with Brumback, he replied, better deal around him.
good advice. Big Jim
Ahh the promotional video as there was only one secret😀
needs a bhind cue ball cam so we can see what english he puts on cueball
ericou812 There are 5 camera views in the DVD including from behind him as much as I could.
ericou812 Should be no English on the cue ball. you want to use middle cb as much as possible when banking. He will use draw and follow from time to time, but it is always center follow and draw.
he doesnt use english, its not necessary on most banks
Strokey12 ,
01:11 DAT SMILE
Not being familiar with Brumback, I did a little Google. I DO know Scott Frost, though. If Brumback can beat him, he can beat anyone commenting on this thread.
He's in the One Pocket Hall of Fame and won Derby City banks two years in row. Good enough for me.
It's a cool shot, but I feel with the amount of time spent repeating the same shot over and over, about 9 1/2 minutes of this video is rather redundant.
Showing you how to make an important bank shot for all of 2 minutes is too much for you?
I'm just saying, It's boring watching the same shot repeated as many times as these shots were. If somebody needs to see the shot over and over and over again, they can do that by going back to any particular point in the video and re-watching that segment. so there doesn't need to be as much repetition as there is in this video.
Because this is one small segment from an hour instructional video. And the bank being shown looks easy b/c this guy is the best banker in the world, but it is very tricky. The several views are showing you how he's hitting the object ball, where the object ball is hitting the rail, how the natural english is throwing the object back back towards the pocket. Believe me, if you can bank this particular shot 1/4 of the time, you are a high level pool player.
Sorry, not so much, redundancy is good for us slower learners. And when we get it, Awesome!!!
The Pool table seems easy to be pocketed , bcoz in our table when you do that bounce shot and the Object ball touch the rail it automatically missed .
Well, I refer to him as a pro player so of course I didn't mean he wasn't a pro at anything. I just meant he isn't a pro in regards to games that require more control over the cue ball. But yeah, he is going to be pretty good at one pocket or any game requiring you to bank a ton but not necessarily lose if you don't leave the white ball perfectly each shot.
***** Actually, I think it is you that needs to brush up on the competition. 8-ball is not part of it. It is one-pocket, bank pool and 9 ball. The first two would be perfect for a bank shot artist... as I have already pointed out. So, him winning the Derby City Classic shouldn't be a surprise. What should be a surprise is that he doesn't win it every year.
Btw, you could technically win the classic without placing first in ANY of the three games. Not claiming he didn't... just pointing out that you don't have to be the very best in all three games in order to win.
Anyway, I think you are trying to take us WAY off track here. I claimed he was a bank shot artist... he claims he is a bank shot artist... THAT is his specialty. Never claimed he couldn't play other games. Just that they aren't his specialty compared to pros in those other games.
And regardless, my main point has nothing to do with any of that anyway. I was just saying that most of these shots are pretty basic. Doesn't mean he can't do better ones... just that the ones shown are basic.
Actually the pockets are just under 4 3/4 the wide angle lens makes them look a litlle bigger then they are, the spin on the ball makes it want to go in the hole. The new cloth helped some but mostly it is knowing what you are doing that makes them play big.
Mark
bugs rucker puts english on some of his bankshots
Most bank shot are thrown.
Those are some big ass forgiving pockets
Is that editing at 5:53
1:11 Hello, I’m Steve Carrell
10:19 it hits before 3rd diamond and it goes?? awesome video though!
I noticed allot of shots like that. My table would never let them shots go in the hole. But it is all about what table you are playing on,,,right??
Really Great stroke too
4 3/4 i guess knowing what your doing means you know it can go in after hitting above the first diamond an it goes lol.
Just take my money!
Who can name the table he’s playing on?🤷🏻♂️🎱
I’m guessing it’s a TopLife (The National Billiard Manufacturer Company) again, only a guess.
If you can divide by 2, then you can make any bank shot.
..explain your method because this is just a video of him showing off! No instruction whatsoever here...
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Shows how dumb you are about pool. Angle in does not equal angle out, tables aren’t mirrors🤦♂️. You clearly know nothing about banking
Place your money on Efren because he is the worlds best Banker. 👑 of 🎱 😁
LOL anybody can do a 1 bank shot,my fav is 3 bank of the quarter of the table & 3 banks the long ways of the table & my favorite is 4 bank back,1 bank is like a straight in shot & doubling up & dropping down that's a fluke shot,dropping the ball straight in is a proper play,anybody can play 1 banks shot & thinking doubling up & dropping down is a good shot,Plz....when I 1st played at our pool hall back in 87,my cousin ask me what's your call on the 8 & I said 1 bank & he laughed & said it's like a straight in shot but ok your call & as time went on I learned too bank 2 or more & straight in not doubling up & dropping LOL
Why does that table look bowed
"4 cross-side watch"
Making bank shots consistently is like driving a golf ball 300+ yards every time.
Long rail banks probably, but short rail banks are pretty easy
Not taking anything from a world champion, but those are buckets.
How the hell does he transfer side from the cue ball to the object ball? I didn't think it was even physically possible. If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes I wouldn't have believed it. I am amazed.
Spin
this is a commercial .
Yeah, sort of, but he gives info in the first couple minutes, if you add compressing the rail with a firm hit, you can learn that part or banking and apply it to others.
fact.
Nice advertisement
Nice shooting....But did those balls have to be sunk with THAT much authority? Damn...
Yes, shoot most bank shots with authority. A Soft shot will cause the object ball to go wide. Try it sometime. Hurry, you dont have much, (Time)!!!
lets play some bank pool
He is a top rate thinker and teacher and player. But that table is as loose as some of the girls waiting backstage at a Grand Funk Rail Road concert. Which is a good thing too, but not quite reality.
he just using natural angle using center ball
the money is in the bank
wah mangan ball karo stick bendino
This is a demo of his tape, buy it, you will earn how to make the banks.
if the balls hit that high up on a rail on a diamond they are not going in especially at that speed..
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I mean no disrespect, he could make that shoot 9 out of 10 times but put a 1,000 dollars on it. Lets see if pressure from 1 grand would make him see double, how about 10 grand. Money in pool makes the difference, it truly separates the players from other people. I'm not saying non players can't gamble but this man is obviously a player. Now would I bet him a 1,000 a bank. Not on that table but on a tight table, you bet! I mean come on, in frame 5:31, he hits the first diamond and still makes the ball. Again no disrespect intended, just calling it like I see it.
Please gamble this man some bank pool. I'll stake him for whatever you want to play for.
@@drix2696 lol, I haven't played serious pool since 1992, and when I played I still was no match for this man. However, in 1992, I assure you, I could have got someone to play this man and bet what you want.
Google John Brumback, I'm pretty sure he banks well under pressure.
◊ 2006 BCA Banks Champion
◊ 2007 US Open Banks Champion
◊ 2009 Derby City Classic Banks Champion
◊ 2009 Derby City Classic Master of the Table
◊ 2010 Derby City Classic Banks Champion
◊ 2011 (Oct) Red Shoes Full Rack Banks Champion
◊ 2011 (Dec) Red Shoes Full Rack Banks Champion
◊ 2012 Michael's Billiards Full Rack Bank Champion
◊ 2012 Brickyard Billiards Full Rack Bank Champion
◊ 2015 Derby City Classic Bank Pool Runner-Up
◊ 2016 Derby City Classic Bank Pool Champion
Mr Brumback didn't get that good by watching DVD's....go out and practice like he did!
And the secret of this video is to buy his secret video
Great shots, but even this is clickbait with country music added🤪
I bought the video. There are more than one secret in the video. This is just a demo from the video. I won't recommend this video because I don't want you to learn what I learned LOL. Don't buy it so you can't use it against me... I've already become a better player because of this video. (wait! no, it doesn't work... don't buy it!) I paid $50 + shipping and I've already won the money back in a single tournament. Don't bother practicing banks... it's a waste of your time. Let me practice for you
ya know i keep seeing alot of flack about john brumback on this video. let me just say something right now. you can sit here and debate all you want too about how some of those shots wouldnt go on a tight pocket table and he got lucky on this and that. the FACT of the matter is he is a world bankpool champion. if you think he is so lucky then go play him. i bet he will shut you up and if you would buy the video he explains why some of those shots go.
so many reply..tsk!
He didn't teach anything, he just showed off
Not knocking the guy, but this video isn't very instructional. Just watching a guy do bank shots doesnt help me at all. I can watch this anywhere. If this video is supposed to instructional you get a HUGE FAIL!! If it is supposed be for show off purposes you get a HUGE WIN.
Thats the easiest of all bank shots...novices can do it