Here I am 3 years later, Nov 2021 getting into Legion for the first time.. soaking up all of this info! Thank you :) Loving it, hoping that this game lives as long as 40K if not longer !!
I watched a lot of "How to play videos" including yours. There's nothing awful about them. It's just I understand a lot more when I see the actual game being played. This helped me understand the rules a ton. Thanks so much!
Also I was kind of concerned that 800 points would end up being a huge number of units (and a lot of money!) but the vehicles are pretty expensive (that AT-ST looks like about 1/3rd of the cost) so I guess this isn't such an issue.
Question for the community ----> I'm combining the 2 starter sets together, should I... A) put the Droids with the Stormtroopers? or B) put the Stormtroopers with the republic clones. On one hand we have light/dark side cohesion, on the other we have visual cohesion
This was easily one of the best play throughs I've seen of this game so far! Very well done! I originally thought I had caught a couple nitpicky rules things, but after double checking, I was mistaken. So I included them here anyways in case anyone else gets confused. 1) Around 13:30, the trooper unit had one suppression token after the rally check. If they were within range 1-3 of Luke (the commander) then they could use his courage value (3) (but only for checking whether they were panicked). I think this means that rebel trooper units near Luke can stack up to 5 suppression tokens and still just be suppressed and not panicked (though as soon as Luke dies, they will be very panicked). 2) Originally thought the speeder bikes Impact keyword should have converted the 2 hits to crits, but the Impact conversion comes in the timing chart after applying dodge and cover. Awesome video, can't wait for more!
From many many years of playing 40k. Your next round should be focusing on objectives. Remember you can win with 1 single model left on the board, if you have the most victory points. In this case control of the objectives.
I have never had a "good" or "fun" game of kill points (unless that was planned ahead). Random kill points games suck IMO. Objectives are where it's at.
Justin A Hey Justin, don’t forget, when Pep is talking about what the AT-ST can see, he mentions both the leader, and the troop beside it. That’s why I was able to pick the other trooper to receive the wound. Only one model has to be in the firing arc for the rest of the models to be valid targets (as long as the other models can be seen).
@@WatchItPlayed It's two years later, but thank you for answering all the questions in the comments! After seeing the wound applied I went back and forth to your video on how to play and the rule book because I thought you had done it wrong. Turns out I just missed that he said he could see a troop, too!
I'm glad I found this channel because I need to learn how to play legion and have no experience at all with the game so you have gotten a subscriber my friend!
22:42 I think you HAD to assign it to your leader. Fixed front means you can hit only units in the front arc. It looks like if you draw a line down the ATSTs left arc line, you’ll barely catch the leader, but no one else in the unit.
Hey Greg, Fixed Front means to "target" a model, it must be in your frotn arc, but you can still assign damage to other models outside of it. You'll find this covered in our tutorial video here: ua-cam.com/video/fuSnuNAsL9A/v-deo.htmlm7s
I can't really tell where Luke is in the video, but I assume he is within range 3 of at least two rebel troopers units. Play Return of the Jedi. Give your air speeder and your troopers with the impact weapons the tokens. Your first move is to place your air speeder between the AT-ST and the land speeders. This will allow you to utilize both your weapons. One against the AT-ST and one against the speeders. You will also be likely targeting the rear of the AT-ST so if he turns to attack back he is giving Impact 1 to all your other units. This should cause some chaos in his backfield that you can use to clear objectives and claim your own. Try your best to maximize the suppression removal of the card so that your troopers can act freely. They are going to be your best sourcefor claiming objectives.
You're amazing Rodney. Your videos continue to increase in quality and you help me learn so easy. I credit you for countless memories of gaming with my two sons. Keep it up. Mr. McDonald is also great to watch so thank you as well.
If the only model in LOS of attacker is the leader, doesn't that mean that the leader has to die and another model is now promoted. AT-ST only had LOS of leader at 8:50
Really enjoyed this video, continues to help me with understanding the game. One minor thing i noticed and that I would have given my opponent a bad time (nicely) about twice, once on the rebel side, when moving the suppressed unit behind the barricade and when the Empire player was doing his move behind the rock when moving the rest of the squad into cohesion you pushed the leader further out than he already was, this could have actually pushed him farther than he actually could have moved. Pretty minor thing, just want to make a note. I am very much looking forward to the next one!
I pushed him further than the original placement, but I knew the limit of how far he could have gone based on my original check, so I made sure to stay within that. The camera angles won't always give you the same eye-view that we have at the table.
Makes sense, its just one of things I would have looked at my friend and been like Duuude you already placed him and removed the movement thing stop moving him around... maybe its gaming ocd lol... But really great video!
A little late to the game (nothing new for me) but I'm seriously considering my first Legion purchases (Clone Wars era I think) and these videos have gone a long way to convincing me I'm gonna love this game. ...and now it's time for my nerd to show. Did anyone else notice the mistake on Luke's character card (I spotted it at 21:20). His weapon is listed as the (Blastech) DL-44, which was actually Han's weapon whereas Luke carried a Merr-Sonn Model 57. I know, I know... I'll just go back into my hole now :p Great set of videos fellas, I'll be subbing for more recent content :D
I'm not too sure what the next command card is to play, but if you can move your Airspeeder between his two Stormtrooper units (with one unit in your rear arc) using the mandatory move, and then take two attack actions with two weapons each time, you might be able to clear the left flank soon and control that objective. Additionally, you may draw his attention away from the other two fronts and then strike hard on those ends. You may consider using _My Ally Is the Force_ to give the Airspeeder a dodge token (as suggested by *Star Wars Tabletop Gaming*). Alternatively, you can use _Ambush_ to go as quickly as possible - the flavour text is rather appropriate for this plan :). I'm not experienced enough to know if it is worth risking the Airspeeder, but I know it will be a lot of fun to watch!
At the 16:40 ish mark you shoot the troopers with the speeders. Now, I’m not completely fluent with the the rules yet but I thought line of sight was drawn from each model, and range from the leader. Which means the second speeder couldn’t fire. Also don’t their weapons have impact, turning some shots to crtis and ignoring cover?
Hey Sam, the second speeder can also see models from the target unit (the camera angle probably made them look more obscured than they actually were). Impact only works against units with Armor.
I'm afraid I'm still too newb to pick a next command card, though thematically I'd suggest giving luke the extra attack command so that he can wreck trooper face :). But seriously, I love this play through guys. Thank you for all of the info you are posting on this game! My wife and I will be picking this up tomorrow and we are super excited. Looking forward to round 2!
Phlio Nihm agreed! Son of skywalker seems like a good card to use to help him gain control of one of the objectives and clear out the storm troopers. Though this is all depending on how well Rodney rolls for attack. Anyone that has watched him play with Luke (his son) knows he has terrible luck on that front.
Just picked up my copy and found something interesting on suppression. A unit that has a suppression token improves it cover by 1 when defending against a ranged attack
Good play through guys! I really enjoy your channel! One advice for Pep. Make sure when you move your Speeders you're moving the leader, you accidentally moved your non-leader unit. Granted it's not a huge deal as the leader ended where it should have for it's compulsory move. As for Rodney, I would advise to try and get objectives next round, and station as many units as you can. Moving your Support and Heavy near last so you can wipe out the imperial pigs, if Pep gets too cocky.
Alright, for the command phase play any of the command cards specific to luke skywalker except for 'Return of the Jedi'. Show Pep those two cards and have him pick 1. If he's smiling or laughing when he picks, choose the card he didn't pick. If he does not do so, again pick the card he didn't pick. If he pauses and then smiles or laughs, pick the card he chose. By smile, i mean a noticable one. While Pep's busy using the AT ST, you can plan ahead which area to want to attack. 1(A) Considering you played 'Son of Skywalker', order Luke and go crazy with him. Mow down the AT ST or Darth Vader with either 1 saber throw and 1 blaster or 2 blasters. Just dont use 2 saber throws. Using 1 move action, and 2 attack actions (because again you played 'Son of Skywalker'). Don't trust your dice rolls? Can't blame you. 1(B) Play 'My Ally is the force' and again, go crazy. Put dodge tokens to luke and the weakest trooper units. Don't let Pep's AT ST gobble up those weak units. The rebel troopers are well known for being 'Nimble' and that's why you should use them for hit-and-run operations. 2. Speaking of which, assuming you survive the AT ST or you luckily mowed it down, use the strongest trooper unit (the unit with the most upgrades) to capture an objective. Just don't take any chances with your weak units (the units with the least upgrades and yes, I was talking about this kind of trooper unit earlier). OK, 3. chances are that Pep moves up a trooper unit or activates Darth Vader and really screws you. No worries. Use the weak trooper units to mash Darth Vader to pieces, if he wasn't already so. 4. What if gets two objectives? Use the Airspeeder or AT RT to retaliate and hopefully chase Pep off an objective. 5. What if Pep just retaliates with speeder bikes snd you played 'Son of Skywalker'?! Relax. Beat the snot out of him with luke's saber throws, blasters, lightsabers etc. If that doesn't work use the second weakest trooper unit and finish the job 6. If both Darth Vader and the AT ST have not been defeated, use the Airspeeder or AT RT and take them out, trying to use the AT RT if you want to be conservative. 7. Try to hold at least 1 objective. If all's well you are good. PS i'm Samin Raiyan, using this account because my laptop's busted. Great job as always. Keep it up!
Sounds like you were asking for suggestions on what the rebels should do, so I'm going to suggest taking the initiative. Don't worry about being able to chose who goes first, just take whatever chance gives you and tackle a single Imperial unit. Try to stay out of sight of the ATST and completely annihilate a unit of storm troopers.
Nice, I'm really interested in this game. The only thing that bums me up it that it's too dice dependent. What I liked about Armada was the fact that you didn't use dice to defend yourself.
I am curious as to why you chose to equip Saber Throw on Luke. The 2 red dice from his DL-44 is as good or better than 3 black dice from a thrown saber. I would have chosen Battle Meditation or even Force Reflexes. I know Luke won't get the same mileage out of Force Reflexes that Vader will, but it can give Luke a clutch dodge token when he really needs it.
Primarily because I wanted it :) I'm probably not the best min-maxer out there. I tend to steer more towards what I think would be fun to play. Definitely don't use my videos for strategy tips, unless it's strategies to avoid :)
Minor rules note, not technically a violation but something that may have been missed. @21:54 you show that the AT-ST has General Weiss piloting it. That means the AT-ST has Arsenal 4 (2 from Weiss, 2 from the AT-ST card. Keywords like Arsenal stack.) This means the AT-ST can actually use all 4 of its weapons. It could have done more attacks previously and also Pat said @7:00 that he had Arsenal 2 so I'm guessing he didn't realize he was only using half of his potential weapons.
Actually, this was a choice he was specifically making. General Weiss can add the two additional Arsenal, but then you have to exhaust him, and you don't get that ability back until you use a rest action, so Pep preferred to save that ability for when it will have the most impact.
As Rodney mentioned, it exhausts the card, so I didn't want to use it in that particular moment. It was tempting, but I wanted to save it for a bit more devastating of a shot. Especially if I go first next round. ;)
Great video! Apologies if this is a silly question, I haven't played this game at all yet, but the AT-ST Mortar Launcher looks like it has a minimum range, but when you fired it at the Rebel squad, you didn't appear to check whether it was too close? Am I misunderstanding the card?
Sounds like you are understanding the card correctly (it could be that being at the table, I could tell it was within the range, so I didn't measure in that moment). Sometimes how something appears on camera, and how it appears in person can be a bit different (based on angles, and perspective, etc).
Sometimes a game comes out that I want to play, I look to see if you guys have covered it. If no, I seriously consider passing on the game haha Seriously tho, great work as always.
FFG x-wing-armada vs GW WH40k rule set makes for actually pretty good system vs WH40K roll of a dozen D6's, and re rolled D6's for defense in a filtering down process of confusion of D6 dice rolls to figure out if any damage or wounding occurs and so forth.. FFG seems to have a better(simpler) system of defense dice vs attack dice with results clearly on the dice themselves. FFG has a clear edge here. If the game had come out with pre-painted figures.. OMG .. its Game over.. hands down FFG Legion table top GOTY(game of the year).
is this game being played with one core box (besides the speeder and at-st)? I know you said for "tournament-legal" armies, you need two core boxes (edit - I was wrong, ignore that last bit)
Hey Ben, I don't remember saying that you needed two core boxes to have a tournament legal army. You technically just need one more trooper unit, which can be picked up separately. Depending on upgrades you assign, you might still be shy of the full 800 points you can use, but otherwise, the army would have as many units as necessary. Here, were using an extra trooper unit each, from expansions, and the extra vehicles you mentioned.
oof, maybe I remembered reading something like that on BGG somewhere for some reason. Sorry! But good to know. I've never done any kind of tabletop wargame before, but this one looks pretty easy to pick up!
I enjoyed the video. The video angles were very clear and commentary good. Only thing that was unclear was the arc on the at st shot. And if you don’t have line of site on all the models only the ones you can see can be destroyed. I don’t know if I like the batreps broken down into turns though.
I shot this long enough ago, that I forget now, but we have a tutorial video explaining how to setup to play. I'm guessing it was the size discussed there.
Sorry, I shot this long enough ago, you'd need to give a more detailed explanation of the situation in the video you are referring to (time stamps, etc).
Imperial PlayersDarth Vader has Relentless which reads, After you preform a move action, you may perform a free attack action. Because of Luke Skywalker, you may think Darth Vader is limited to a melee attack. He is not. Saber Throw gives him a ranged attack. Darth Vader could, move as a first action, move again as a second action, then as a free action Force throw his lightsaber.
Nice video. Make sure you are in base contact with the barricades for cover. Technically you did not have cover for the Speeder Bike attack so only one die should have been removed. Also, did that speeder to the left actually have vision to anyone? Possibly only the leader? Look forward for part 2. At the last attack with the troopers with ion, it has Impact 1, remember to change 1 hit to crit . Though the same results would have happened, it is best practice to remember impact as that dodge could have been useless if you had only crits.
Hey Mr. Voltog, you don't have to be in base contact to gain the benefit of cover from a barricade - as long as the line of sight from the leader passes through any form of cover, you can gain the benefit of it. However, being in base contact with it, will ensure it doesn't count as cover for my enemy when I'm firing over that barricade at those speeders. You'll find this detailed in our How to Play video. The angle probably wasn't as good for the viewers, but yep, unfortunately for me, the second Speeder bike could see the unit as well.
So if you still take turns , 1 and then 1 , and then 1 and so on .. what's the point of playing a command card to activate more units at a time. They don't all go on the same turn???
It has to do with how much control you have over when you can activate your units. You'll find this covered in the full rules video here: ua-cam.com/video/fuSnuNAsL9A/v-deo.html
Play son of Luke and activate Luke kill the atst before it activates. Then take a shot at those speeders before ducking into cover. Laugh manically in a yoda fashion whilst destroying the empire.
Cool, thx. I've been looking to get a mat for SW Legion...but also something for WH40K (potentially) or Bolt Action. I was thinking 4x4 for Legion and a 6x4 for WH40k/Bolt Action and definitely think I prefer that extra space of the 4x4 vs 3x3. Love the play through...but get those models painted! :)
It's a little tough to comment without a time stamp (my memory is fuzzy). His second Arsenal 2 is an exhaustible effect, so he was saving it to use at a time when it would be more effective (if I'm remembering the situation correctly).
With my shooting schedule, I don't have time to paint full armies, but hopefully these videos can help people understand how to play, which is the primary goal. Cheers.
and here i am, 2 years later... watching this video. I bought the Clone Wars core set 2 weeks ago.
I hope you have a great time playing!
Funny thing is I plan on getting the exact core set on Amazon the day before Halloween
Here I am, Nov 2020, just getting into miniature wargaming asking for the Base Set as a Christmas present from my wife xD
Me right now lmao
Here I am 3 years later, Nov 2021 getting into Legion for the first time.. soaking up all of this info! Thank you :)
Loving it, hoping that this game lives as long as 40K if not longer !!
Great video. The rules are taken into account accordingly, the camera angles are good, and you guys seem charismatic and not monotone. Well done
Thank you Ace - glad you're enjoying!
Personally I think the static camera needs to be higher and at a larger angle towards the table. It’s nigh-impossible to see what is going on.
I watched a lot of "How to play videos" including yours. There's nothing awful about them. It's just I understand a lot more when I see the actual game being played. This helped me understand the rules a ton. Thanks so much!
Very nice to know this was helpful!
Finally, a play through where I'm confident that at least most of the rules will be followed correctly! :-P
Also I was kind of concerned that 800 points would end up being a huge number of units (and a lot of money!) but the vehicles are pretty expensive (that AT-ST looks like about 1/3rd of the cost) so I guess this isn't such an issue.
I forget exactly how many points we are using here, a little over 700, I believe, and we're about 6 points off of each other.
705 and 711 I believe! Hope those grenades give me the edge!
Nailed it guys. Not a single rule missed! Luke probably wants to be handing out some dodge tokens next turn ;)
Might not be a bad idea!
what about line of sight for the lower speeder bike -- I would think the structure in the middle would block shots on the troopers and vice versa?
@@TheSoling27 I think that if at least one has los on at least one of the other, they all have los..
Question for the community ----> I'm combining the 2 starter sets together, should I... A) put the Droids with the Stormtroopers? or B) put the Stormtroopers with the republic clones.
On one hand we have light/dark side cohesion, on the other we have visual cohesion
I think option B clones with stormtroopers
@@lazarusisrizzen I actually went with option A. The white droids look really cool, also the camo clones
I’m a 40k guy and when I realized that you arent’going to paint them I got a tiny stroke. yOu HaVE t0 pAInT tHeM
Don't worry, you can correct my mistakes with your own copy :)
I have the same problem.
I might give the people that like painting their minis in this section another tiny stroke
I don't paint mine
primer units fight better than unpainted. Painted units fight the best. 40K player
This was easily one of the best play throughs I've seen of this game so far! Very well done!
I originally thought I had caught a couple nitpicky rules things, but after double checking, I was mistaken. So I included them here anyways in case anyone else gets confused. 1) Around 13:30, the trooper unit had one suppression token after the rally check. If they were within range 1-3 of Luke (the commander) then they could use his courage value (3) (but only for checking whether they were panicked). I think this means that rebel trooper units near Luke can stack up to 5 suppression tokens and still just be suppressed and not panicked (though as soon as Luke dies, they will be very panicked). 2) Originally thought the speeder bikes Impact keyword should have converted the 2 hits to crits, but the Impact conversion comes in the timing chart after applying dodge and cover.
Awesome video, can't wait for more!
Impact is also only used against units with armor, which the troopers don't have :)
Great playthrough! Just the right amount of humor, close ups and explanations. Looking forward for more of these.
Thanks Marko!
The Imperial player is way to friendly. Kick some butt man! You are our flag bearer!
I'm on it! Time to crush some rebels!
You missed a few opportunities to shout "HELP HELP I'M BEING SUPPRESSED!" there...
I love this channel! I've been considering pre-ordering two of the Clone Wars boxes, and heading to my FLGS. Great video guys!
Thanks so much Nate - glad you enjoyed!
From many many years of playing 40k. Your next round should be focusing on objectives.
Remember you can win with 1 single model left on the board, if you have the most victory points. In this case control of the objectives.
borgcolect the objectives really seem to add interest to this game.
I have never had a "good" or "fun" game of kill points (unless that was planned ahead). Random kill points games suck IMO. Objectives are where it's at.
@Watch It Played At 8:40, should you have been forced to kill off your leader as it's the only mini in the AT-ST's front firing arc?
Justin A Hey Justin, don’t forget, when Pep is talking about what the AT-ST can see, he mentions both the leader, and the troop beside it. That’s why I was able to pick the other trooper to receive the wound. Only one model has to be in the firing arc for the rest of the models to be valid targets (as long as the other models can be seen).
Thanks for the answer!
You bet!
Curse my good eyesight! Now you're still in range of the objective token!
@@WatchItPlayed It's two years later, but thank you for answering all the questions in the comments!
After seeing the wound applied I went back and forth to your video on how to play and the rule book because I thought you had done it wrong. Turns out I just missed that he said he could see a troop, too!
i wish i had a basement
I'm glad I found this channel because I need to learn how to play legion and have no experience at all with the game so you have gotten a subscriber my friend!
I hope this helps! Don't miss the full tutorial along with this play through. And welcome!
22:42 I think you HAD to assign it to your leader. Fixed front means you can hit only units in the front arc. It looks like if you draw a line down the ATSTs left arc line, you’ll barely catch the leader, but no one else in the unit.
Hey Greg, Fixed Front means to "target" a model, it must be in your frotn arc, but you can still assign damage to other models outside of it. You'll find this covered in our tutorial video here: ua-cam.com/video/fuSnuNAsL9A/v-deo.htmlm7s
This was a lot of fun to watch guys. Great job!
Thanks Adam!
I can't really tell where Luke is in the video, but I assume he is within range 3 of at least two rebel troopers units. Play Return of the Jedi. Give your air speeder and your troopers with the impact weapons the tokens.
Your first move is to place your air speeder between the AT-ST and the land speeders. This will allow you to utilize both your weapons. One against the AT-ST and one against the speeders.
You will also be likely targeting the rear of the AT-ST so if he turns to attack back he is giving Impact 1 to all your other units.
This should cause some chaos in his backfield that you can use to clear objectives and claim your own.
Try your best to maximize the suppression removal of the card so that your troopers can act freely. They are going to be your best sourcefor claiming objectives.
You're amazing Rodney. Your videos continue to increase in quality and you help me learn so easy. I credit you for countless memories of gaming with my two sons. Keep it up. Mr. McDonald is also great to watch so thank you as well.
I hope there continues to be plenty of great family gaming in your future!
I played warhammer as a kid. Undead. Recently found out about this and just bought the core set. Looking forward to it all
Hope you have a great time playing Dejo!
I could not be more excited let’s watch!!!
Hope you enjoy!
I could watch you guys play the phonebook.
Make it happen Rodney!
Don't tempt me!
You'll be our first call!
If the only model in LOS of attacker is the leader, doesn't that mean that the leader has to die and another model is now promoted. AT-ST only had LOS of leader at 8:50
It's hard to see from the camera angle, but the AT-ST had line of sight to a few of the models.
Awesome. Thanks for the reply! Great content.
Thanks for this. Just picked up the core set and this helps.
Very nice to know it was useful - have a great time playing!
Really enjoyed this video, continues to help me with understanding the game. One minor thing i noticed and that I would have given my opponent a bad time (nicely) about twice, once on the rebel side, when moving the suppressed unit behind the barricade and when the Empire player was doing his move behind the rock when moving the rest of the squad into cohesion you pushed the leader further out than he already was, this could have actually pushed him farther than he actually could have moved. Pretty minor thing, just want to make a note. I am very much looking forward to the next one!
I pushed him further than the original placement, but I knew the limit of how far he could have gone based on my original check, so I made sure to stay within that. The camera angles won't always give you the same eye-view that we have at the table.
Makes sense, its just one of things I would have looked at my friend and been like Duuude you already placed him and removed the movement thing stop moving him around... maybe its gaming ocd lol... But really great video!
A little late to the game (nothing new for me) but I'm seriously considering my first Legion purchases (Clone Wars era I think) and these videos have gone a long way to convincing me I'm gonna love this game.
...and now it's time for my nerd to show. Did anyone else notice the mistake on Luke's character card (I spotted it at 21:20). His weapon is listed as the (Blastech) DL-44, which was actually Han's weapon whereas Luke carried a Merr-Sonn Model 57.
I know, I know... I'll just go back into my hole now :p
Great set of videos fellas, I'll be subbing for more recent content :D
Glad you enjoyed - and okay to nerd out on things you like!
Awesome thanks guys. Nice to see the game played according to the rule set.
We'll do out best :)
That giant mountain in the way doesn't matter, my AT-ST has Blast ability. Inconceivable!!!
I'm not too sure what the next command card is to play, but if you can move your Airspeeder between his two Stormtrooper units (with one unit in your rear arc) using the mandatory move, and then take two attack actions with two weapons each time, you might be able to clear the left flank soon and control that objective. Additionally, you may draw his attention away from the other two fronts and then strike hard on those ends. You may consider using _My Ally Is the Force_ to give the Airspeeder a dodge token (as suggested by *Star Wars Tabletop Gaming*). Alternatively, you can use _Ambush_ to go as quickly as possible - the flavour text is rather appropriate for this plan :).
I'm not experienced enough to know if it is worth risking the Airspeeder, but I know it will be a lot of fun to watch!
At the 16:40 ish mark you shoot the troopers with the speeders. Now, I’m not completely fluent with the the rules yet but I thought line of sight was drawn from each model, and range from the leader. Which means the second speeder couldn’t fire. Also don’t their weapons have impact, turning some shots to crtis and ignoring cover?
Hey Sam, the second speeder can also see models from the target unit (the camera angle probably made them look more obscured than they actually were). Impact only works against units with Armor.
Ahhh, Thank you. Keep up the great videos! :)
I'm afraid I'm still too newb to pick a next command card, though thematically I'd suggest giving luke the extra attack command so that he can wreck trooper face :). But seriously, I love this play through guys. Thank you for all of the info you are posting on this game! My wife and I will be picking this up tomorrow and we are super excited. Looking forward to round 2!
Phlio Nihm agreed! Son of skywalker seems like a good card to use to help him gain control of one of the objectives and clear out the storm troopers. Though this is all depending on how well Rodney rolls for attack. Anyone that has watched him play with Luke (his son) knows he has terrible luck on that front.
Hah, very good point Michael! I guess we now have to consider what we can call 'The Rodney Rule' when Luke and attack dice are involved! ;p
I hope you both have a great time with the game!
Just picked up my copy and found something interesting on suppression. A unit that has a suppression token improves it cover by 1 when defending against a ranged attack
That’s right. The idea is that they are ducking for cover because of the fire they’ve been under.
Good play through guys! I really enjoy your channel! One advice for Pep. Make sure when you move your Speeders you're moving the leader, you accidentally moved your non-leader unit. Granted it's not a huge deal as the leader ended where it should have for it's compulsory move. As for Rodney, I would advise to try and get objectives next round, and station as many units as you can. Moving your Support and Heavy near last so you can wipe out the imperial pigs, if Pep gets too cocky.
Hey Steve, Pep moved the correct Speeder Bike. The guy with his gun pointing backward is not the leader of that unit.
Made easy to understand and fun to watch review for this game
Thank you for the kind words Erick!
Can’t wait for part 2
Coming soon!
Watch It Played omg thanks so much this just made my day
Very well done. Perfect to follow, great camera angles ... Thumbs up!
Glad you liked it - thanks for the kind feedback.
Noticing your games in back, that reminds me to add "Witness" to my wishlist. I've played it a few times and loved it.
Such a good one - I don't get to play it nearly as often as I'd like to :)
Alright, for the command phase play any of the command cards specific to luke skywalker except for 'Return of the Jedi'. Show Pep those two cards and have him pick 1. If he's smiling or laughing when he picks, choose the card he didn't pick. If he does not do so, again pick the card he didn't pick. If he pauses and then smiles or laughs, pick the card he chose. By smile, i mean a noticable one. While Pep's busy using the AT ST, you can plan ahead which area to want to attack. 1(A) Considering you played 'Son of Skywalker', order Luke and go crazy with him. Mow down the AT ST or Darth Vader with either 1 saber throw and 1 blaster or 2 blasters. Just dont use 2 saber throws. Using 1 move action, and 2 attack actions (because again you played 'Son of Skywalker'). Don't trust your dice rolls? Can't blame you. 1(B) Play 'My Ally is the force' and again, go crazy. Put dodge tokens to luke and the weakest trooper units. Don't let Pep's AT ST gobble up those weak units. The rebel troopers are well known for being 'Nimble' and that's why you should use them for hit-and-run operations. 2. Speaking of which, assuming you survive the AT ST or you luckily mowed it down, use the strongest trooper unit (the unit with the most upgrades) to capture an objective. Just don't take any chances with your weak units (the units with the least upgrades and yes, I was talking about this kind of trooper unit earlier). OK, 3. chances are that Pep moves up a trooper unit or activates Darth Vader and really screws you. No worries. Use the weak trooper units to mash Darth Vader to pieces, if he wasn't already so. 4. What if gets two objectives? Use the Airspeeder or AT RT to retaliate and hopefully chase Pep off an objective. 5. What if Pep just retaliates with speeder bikes snd you played 'Son of Skywalker'?! Relax. Beat the snot out of him with luke's saber throws, blasters, lightsabers etc. If that doesn't work use the second weakest trooper unit and finish the job 6. If both Darth Vader and the AT ST have not been defeated, use the Airspeeder or AT RT and take them out, trying to use the AT RT if you want to be conservative. 7. Try to hold at least 1 objective. If all's well you are good. PS i'm Samin Raiyan, using this account because my laptop's busted. Great job as always. Keep it up!
Love you guys - you guys together rock it!! Do lots more please!!
Glad you're enjoying. New game play episode next week!
I'm curious what the point totals were for each side? Did I miss them going over it?
It's been long enough since I shot this, that I'm not sure :)
Great play through, well done video
Thanks General!
Sounds like you were asking for suggestions on what the rebels should do, so I'm going to suggest taking the initiative. Don't worry about being able to chose who goes first, just take whatever chance gives you and tackle a single Imperial unit. Try to stay out of sight of the ATST and completely annihilate a unit of storm troopers.
Nice, I'm really interested in this game. The only thing that bums me up it that it's too dice dependent. What I liked about Armada was the fact that you didn't use dice to defend yourself.
There won't be much escaping the dice in combat, at the very least :)
I am curious as to why you chose to equip Saber Throw on Luke. The 2 red dice from his DL-44 is as good or better than 3 black dice from a thrown saber. I would have chosen Battle Meditation or even Force Reflexes. I know Luke won't get the same mileage out of Force Reflexes that Vader will, but it can give Luke a clutch dodge token when he really needs it.
Primarily because I wanted it :) I'm probably not the best min-maxer out there. I tend to steer more towards what I think would be fun to play. Definitely don't use my videos for strategy tips, unless it's strategies to avoid :)
Just bought this last week, still don’t quite understand the order of everything and all of it but it looks really cool to play
Hope the videos can help a bit! Have fun playing :)
What table are you guys playing on? Looks different than the one you use for other games?
These are just a couple of folding tables.
Minor rules note, not technically a violation but something that may have been missed. @21:54 you show that the AT-ST has General Weiss piloting it. That means the AT-ST has Arsenal 4 (2 from Weiss, 2 from the AT-ST card. Keywords like Arsenal stack.) This means the AT-ST can actually use all 4 of its weapons. It could have done more attacks previously and also Pat said @7:00 that he had Arsenal 2 so I'm guessing he didn't realize he was only using half of his potential weapons.
Actually, this was a choice he was specifically making. General Weiss can add the two additional Arsenal, but then you have to exhaust him, and you don't get that ability back until you use a rest action, so Pep preferred to save that ability for when it will have the most impact.
As Rodney mentioned, it exhausts the card, so I didn't want to use it in that particular moment. It was tempting, but I wanted to save it for a bit more devastating of a shot. Especially if I go first next round. ;)
Great video! Apologies if this is a silly question, I haven't played this game at all yet, but the AT-ST Mortar Launcher looks like it has a minimum range, but when you fired it at the Rebel squad, you didn't appear to check whether it was too close? Am I misunderstanding the card?
Sounds like you are understanding the card correctly (it could be that being at the table, I could tell it was within the range, so I didn't measure in that moment). Sometimes how something appears on camera, and how it appears in person can be a bit different (based on angles, and perspective, etc).
@@WatchItPlayed Thanks :)
Sometimes a game comes out that I want to play, I look to see if you guys have covered it. If no, I seriously consider passing on the game haha
Seriously tho, great work as always.
That means a lot to me! Thank you for the kind words.
FFG x-wing-armada vs GW WH40k rule set makes for actually pretty good system vs WH40K roll of a dozen D6's, and re rolled D6's for defense in a filtering down process of confusion of D6 dice rolls to figure out if any damage or wounding occurs and so forth.. FFG seems to have a better(simpler) system of defense dice vs attack dice with results clearly on the dice themselves. FFG has a clear edge here. If the game had come out with pre-painted figures.. OMG .. its Game over.. hands down FFG Legion table top GOTY(game of the year).
Sure wish the Blue guys and Red guys in DC would fight/play this way.
is this game being played with one core box (besides the speeder and at-st)? I know you said for "tournament-legal" armies, you need two core boxes (edit - I was wrong, ignore that last bit)
Hey Ben, I don't remember saying that you needed two core boxes to have a tournament legal army. You technically just need one more trooper unit, which can be picked up separately. Depending on upgrades you assign, you might still be shy of the full 800 points you can use, but otherwise, the army would have as many units as necessary.
Here, were using an extra trooper unit each, from expansions, and the extra vehicles you mentioned.
oof, maybe I remembered reading something like that on BGG somewhere for some reason. Sorry!
But good to know. I've never done any kind of tabletop wargame before, but this one looks pretty easy to pick up!
Happy to help clarify!
I enjoyed the video. The video angles were very clear and commentary good. Only thing that was unclear was the arc on the at st shot. And if you don’t have line of site on all the models only the ones you can see can be destroyed. I don’t know if I like the batreps broken down into turns though.
Glad you liked it! This isn't really a batrep - it's meant to be a full play through of the game, so you can really see exactly how the game works.
What type and size table are you guys playing on?
I shot this long enough ago, that I forget now, but we have a tutorial video explaining how to setup to play. I'm guessing it was the size discussed there.
Gotcha. Just trying to find a reasonable table to use. 6x4 is an expensive find.
u two are so awesome together :D always enjoy
Thank you kindly!
Did you exhaust the Ion Trooper card after firing or did I miss it? It does have that symbol in the corner.
Ooo - good catch!
guys in the rules after you place an activate on a unite i thought you couldn't do anything else until the next turn on that unit you activated?
Sorry, I shot this long enough ago, you'd need to give a more detailed explanation of the situation in the video you are referring to (time stamps, etc).
Where do you get the "orders" from? Can't figure it out....???? There were no "order" cards in my box.
Hey, did you watch the tutorial video. The details for where to play and what should be in the box would be there.
What is that "look at all the cards and board position"-music called? Is it a Chaz original?
That's a Chaz original!
Imperial PlayersDarth Vader has Relentless which reads, After you preform a move action, you may perform a free attack action. Because of Luke Skywalker, you may think Darth Vader is limited to a melee attack. He is not. Saber Throw gives him a ranged attack. Darth Vader could, move as a first action, move again as a second action, then as a free action Force throw his lightsaber.
Don't worry, Vader will definitely be throwing his saber around soon!
Nice video. Make sure you are in base contact with the barricades for cover. Technically you did not have cover for the Speeder Bike attack so only one die should have been removed. Also, did that speeder to the left actually have vision to anyone? Possibly only the leader? Look forward for part 2. At the last attack with the troopers with ion, it has Impact 1, remember to change 1 hit to crit . Though the same results would have happened, it is best practice to remember impact as that dodge could have been useless if you had only crits.
Hey Mr. Voltog, you don't have to be in base contact to gain the benefit of cover from a barricade - as long as the line of sight from the leader passes through any form of cover, you can gain the benefit of it. However, being in base contact with it, will ensure it doesn't count as cover for my enemy when I'm firing over that barricade at those speeders. You'll find this detailed in our How to Play video.
The angle probably wasn't as good for the viewers, but yep, unfortunately for me, the second Speeder bike could see the unit as well.
So if you still take turns , 1 and then 1 , and then 1 and so on .. what's the point of playing a command card to activate more units at a time. They don't all go on the same turn???
It has to do with how much control you have over when you can activate your units. You'll find this covered in the full rules video here: ua-cam.com/video/fuSnuNAsL9A/v-deo.html
Watch It Played so it's basically to avoid drawing randomly?? You get to chose your units instead of fate... Thanks
Yep, you got it.
Thanks!! You're videos are the best. You're one of the reason I started my own channel with a few friends. Keep up the great work!!!!
A pleasure to assist!
probably use My Ally is the Force, throw one on the ion troopers and the ones closest to the AT-ST.
So, how did you get everyone on the board?
I'm not quite sure what you're asking
Where did you get the terrain?
A website called gamemat.eu
Where do you get your terrain
I got mine mostly from www.gamemat.eu/
Another great video from you guys. Always a pleasure to watch :)
Thanks Grant!
Play son of Luke and activate Luke kill the atst before it activates. Then take a shot at those speeders before ducking into cover. Laugh manically in a yoda fashion whilst destroying the empire.
Is that a 3x3 mat?
6x4
Cool, thx. I've been looking to get a mat for SW Legion...but also something for WH40K (potentially) or Bolt Action. I was thinking 4x4 for Legion and a 6x4 for WH40k/Bolt Action and definitely think I prefer that extra space of the 4x4 vs 3x3.
Love the play through...but get those models painted! :)
great job guys thx
Glad you enjoyed!
"Doom doom doom doo doom doom doom!"
..."Great..."
You called the lazy drago hotline please wait for your drago to pick up in (999999999999999999999999999999) hours
Bring wedge around to see if he can shoot Darth Stimpy. ... I mean Mr. Vader sir.
Mortar is for 4 or more distance, did you really measure it ? Nice video when will you put the next one ?
We didn't measure on screen, but yep, we checked it.
It's x wing with soldiers! I love it!
Glad you're enjoying! More episodes on the way soon :)
When your Rebels were up against the rock, wouldn't that give you a cover bonus from the AT-ST shooting?
It normally would, but the AT-ST had a Concussion Grenade Launcher which ignores cover.
Does Arsenal not stack?
It does stack. Was there a particular moment where you saw it not used correctly?
When Pep attacked with the AT-ST, couldn't he have used 4 weapons then with the ranges the fight was at?
It's a little tough to comment without a time stamp (my memory is fuzzy). His second Arsenal 2 is an exhaustible effect, so he was saving it to use at a time when it would be more effective (if I'm remembering the situation correctly).
Ah, that explains it. Okay, thanks for answering!
Help! Help! I'm being suppressed! Come see the violence inherent in the system!
Painting these the thing that put me off
Cuz my skill ain’t great
My lord will those stairs look dangerous!!
I can see what you mean from that angle, but they are very wide and quite safe!
I’m watching this with subtitles and it said on them I’m activating my 80s tea, instead of saying atst
Well, we'll allow you to have tea while you're watching too :)
no star wars battle or story is complete without Dengar the greatest bounty hunter that ever lived ... with bandages on his head.
I want this but I have no friends to play with sooooooooo
Hope you ended up finding some opponents!
Unpainted minis?
SHOULD BE DISQUALIFIED!!!
Painted miniatures look great, but we're fine playing unpainted :)
hehe just giving you guys a tough time in fun and jest :)
Rodney, all these years, I assumed you were a magical floating torso. Color me disappointed.
Sorry! ;)
All this Luke Skywalker reminds me of Luke Smith.
Heh, I tend to think of him too when I'm playing.
You guys are such a pair of silly geese
No denying that!
Either you guys are 8 feet tall or that is one short ass table.
10 feet tall, actually. It's a problem.
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can you guys at least paint your minis, minis dont look good unpainted on the table
With my shooting schedule, I don't have time to paint full armies, but hopefully these videos can help people understand how to play, which is the primary goal. Cheers.