As an ex Jehovah's witnesses, the first time I read this it broke me. When the man was told to go tell what God did, but he went and told what Jesus did.....that was a biggie for me in leaving behind that watchtower teaching. Pray for me . I'm the only one in my family that's out.
I know this was difficult for you. I know also that you had the courage to touch on such a difficult and painful subject, and that you felt you had to. And i know based on your postures, etc that it was from your heart. I dont know if you got my email, but i want you to know i was shaking and crying from the relief of your touching on a subject so near to me. And you brought me hope. I love Jesus. I long to see him. And i know if He hadnt allowed this (bipolar) to happen to me (thorn in my flesh and my brain indeed), I would never have been able to do any of the good He worked through me, wretched and filthy that I am. I often read this passage, sometimes over and over and over. I had to believe there was a reason and a hope, and i am so glad you shared the facts you did. Thank you again and again. I believe when i die, i will finally be able to meet with Him, and in that moment, the monsters in my head will never hurt me or anyone else ever again. It is what i live for. Thank you so much for the courage to teach on what so many have avoided like the plague. I have hope.
Love this video, very informative as always! I used to self harm and cut myself as a teen and was very suicidal. I do believe it was demonic, I had so many intrusive thoughts of self harm and suicide until I was saved and delivered from everything! It's been three years now and I have yet to have any suicidal thoughts or self harm in any way. Praise God!
*Stay close to Jesus, Bri. If any unwanted thoughts try to come in, tell them, "I have the mind of Christ," based on one of Paul's books in Scripture. God bless you!*
I’m so glad you are now okay, at peace. Praise to the Prince of Peace for setting you free. “Intrusive thoughts” always suggests demonic activity to me.
God bless and keep out of evil's harm your ministry, your Church, you and your family. Always a great joy to listen to you preach from Transylvania, Romania
The savior n lord jesus heared the non stop scream of the poor man from the other side of the sea and came all the way to deliver him...my favorite part among the gospels of the lord ..it always gives me hope whenever I face hardship...keep screaming, and one day the lord will break every chain you r tied to
Great teaching Mike! Although I did cringe when you said the "country of Africa" 🤔 We are a whole continent 😅 Really appreciate your ministry and may the Lord bless you! Love from South Africa 😊
I'm working and had to stop everything to make this comment. Thank you SO MUCH for presenting opposing sides. For someone raised only ever hearing one side of a thing, and then going and hearing the other side later in life, it can be really world rocking. The nephilim topic in particular, especially in our day, has blown up into all kinds of different things online, and that was my first exposure to that line of thinking at all whatsoever. Thank you for your balanced approach, and for the apologetic aspect you bring as well. The way you teach is the Holy Spirit leading for sure. You teach in the way that speaks to every person wherever they are and lays it all out there clearly. Blessings!
The Sea of Galilee (The Kinneret for Jews in Israel) is amazing. I was there in 2017 on a volunteer archaeological dig in partnership with the University of Haifa. The dig was, and still is, called the Kursi Beach Project; though the actual Kursi (derived from Gergesa) sits perched on the hill top. The beach site was also a Byzantine location but more or less it's port. Its very fascinating to be there and look up at the hills which are enormous with sharp like precipices, or escarpments, and see how it ties in with the story that took place. You can also take into account the sea levels must have been slightly different as well, but not too high, as some of these ancient towns, that still remain, would still need to of course exist rather than flooded with an exaggerated water level. The pigs must have stumbled down each narrow wadi or escarpment on their way down the hillside, but would meet the narrow stretch of flat land between the hill and the shores. I think a lot of us immediately picture a cliff and just a drop, but this is not the case when you see it.
As someone who used to "cut" I can explain it like this (at least in my case). 1. You suddenly have this thought in your head and think: I want to feel pain on my body and not my emotions anymore 2. If you dont believe how much pain I feel inside: here it is for you since we only trust physical pain (absurd cos then u usually hide the cuts 3. I deserve this pain from the cut 4. I MUST purge. 5. The pain brings some sort of rush which calms you. I would not at ALL be surprised if cutting was Biblically demonic. Not at all.
I love that you make things practical to understand. I like the perspective that you bring to the table. A genuine desire to simplify the word and teach it with understanding. Your teachings have given me some of those “ah-ha” moments.
I really admire the way you exegete and teach the Bible. Another great lesson. I was especially impacted by the "found it was empty" bit. I have never noticed that small detail about before, but it dovetails perfectly with the idea of the indwelling Holy Spirit being given to the saved man. Perhaps you could call it a theological undesigned coincidence if you like. :) That one is going in my journaling Bible (where I write all the most important observations about the text) for sure.
Mike, I really appreciate that you give us multiple sides to hard issues. On many matters the answer can be we don't know for sure. I've seen too many times even in my own church (which is great BTW) where the pastor gives an answer without offering up a dissenting view. The average church goer is much smarter than given credit and is hungry for information. Bible Thinker indeed!!!
Thank you Br. Mark for taking on this passage of scripture! For those who argue that town was 30 miles away, have never been to a pig farm or any farm that has a pig for that matter. They stink! 2000 of them in a herd would make the city dump smell like the botanical gardens by comparison! Just for fun, I did some quick number crunching and based on a goal weight of 280lbs (at time for slaughter in the US) and the current price per lb (according to the USDA), the farmers would have lost between $840k and $2.1 million at market, if this incident had happened today.
I’ve always believed that when people try to pray to departed saints, that they are actually contacting demons in disguise as saints. If Satan can appear in the light of God, then this is surely possible. Christ is our mediator to the father, but when we contact saints, we become the medium.
Brandon Ball the Bible has cryptic messages. “Jesus” as you refer to him said he came to do the will of the o e that sent him. Satan is the one who sent the Christ. The early Christians understood this. There are very old copies of bibles with satanic imagery on them. Satan Christ is the truth.
The Father sent the Son. I don’t doubt what other ancient writers have written; people have written a lot of things. But the Bible is not cryptic in a sense where God or Christ is portrayed in some mysterious negative connotation. Give me any context and I will show you why
@@Hypnotoad206 Satan Christ says that the jews love their father the devil. This proves that "Yahweh" is the evil one. The jews follow the "God" of the old testament aka "yahweh". Satan Christ is the way the truth and the life.
I'm delighted that you tackled the question as to "what happened to the owners of the pigs? Did they get somehow reimbursed for the loss of the herd, did they just have to endure the financial loss?" I guess many pastors simply don't want to provide a hypothesis or don't know of a hypothesis to provide. Others simply brush it asides with the "that's not what this passage is about" convenient answer... Thank you for sharing this video.
It also seems to me that there is a symbolic nature to this event: Swine are an unclean animal and only a few verses earlier Christ seems to equate swine with people who don’t understand and are angered by His truth (Mat 7:6). Thus, it is reasonable to say that swine may represent the unsaved who prefer to wallow in sin rather than turn to Christ. Christs response to the legion’s question “have you come to torment us before the time?”, suggests that it is His will to allow the demons to remain in this world until His second coming. If you accept these two premises then it seems logical to conclude that those who love sin and choose to reject Christ, in-so-doing, open themselves to demons and those who choose their own demons over Christ will earn death in the final judgement. Thus, while the demons may have believed that they were causing havoc by killing the swine, they may also have been acting out a symbolic version of what will happen to those who choose to reject Christ. Just a thought. As always- Great video Mike!
Great sermon once again Mike! This helped clear up some questions I had myself on the passage. Very well critically analyzed and taught! Thank you! Adam
Hi Mike! A couple thoughts because I love your studies and I've been fascinated with this miracle today. -Hellenistic villages used scapegoating exorcism practices. They'd have a priest deal with a strongman/principality and plead him to mobe his demons the many villagers into one individual so the rest could be more productive. That's why this man had so many and did what he did. It's also why territory was such a big deal, from the storm on the sea to the cleansed demoniac not being allowed to leave the Decapolis with Jesus. -Demons do lie to people, but they don't maintain a lie when under God's authority. If you've ever bound some and think one is lying, just ask it "Will that stand as the truth before Jehovah God?" It'll say yes or it'll beat around the bush until it tells the truth. -Demons come and go through open doors in our temple. Those open doors are sins, especially idolatry and unforgiveness. There's also the generational rules that still apply in this generation (meaning the sins of the father are the sins of the son, cursed for several generations, blessed for thousands, etc.). You grant permission for demons to take lease in your temple by sin. If they are leasing or squatting, that doesn't mean they're imprisoned. They're tenants, squatters. They go and look for their buddies sometimes or to receive instructions or to work on other assignments. At those times you're not under the influence, so you have good times and can rest and clean up your temple. But if you still have sin, and still haven't kicked those demons out, then they can come back in with their friends BECAUSE THEY'RE ALLOWED TO BY YOUR SIN and you haven't changed the locks. -You CAN be a Christian and have a demon. But with Jesus' authority, we can cast them out from each other with relative ease, and even ourselves if we are disciplined. Deliverance is the children's bread! -You are right about possession, and the distinction between possession and oppression! But, possession is a lie. We are created in God's image, not Caesar's or Satan's. We cannot sell what God has built, or what God has bought with His very Blood! -Would medication have helped the demoniac? Yeah, a little bit. Just a little bit. That's why psychiatrists consider schizophrenia terminal but still prescribe powerful tranquilizers and sedatives for treatment. There's a little bit of relief from the one set of symptoms (the voices and compulsions) in exchange for a lot of physical symptoms but a quieting of the voices. -Exorcism IS a religious term! It's usually got to do with moving demons around, while Jesus ACTUALLY delivered people and CAST those demons OUT of circulation!! In those times, there were no Catholic exorcists, but there were Kabbalistic and Hellenistic and tribal and Hindu exorcists. But in these times, we have The Resurrected Son of God, Who gives us His authority to minister FREEDOM, not barter and lousy satanic contracts. -We know about fallen angels, and we know about nephilim. I personally think that the principalities of the sky are fallen angels, and that the spirits we cast out of people are mostly seeds of the nephilim (with a fallen angel seed here and there). I'm not too attached to this theory, but I think both races are still here today. Love your ministry, Mike, so I wanted to share what I've learned! Demonic influence has had a big impact on my family (But God's influence is Greater!) so I've got a studious interest in that side of creation. Keep it up!
Leave it to Mike Winger to glean tons of insights & understanding for us, FROM INCIDENTAL DETAILS, such as the healing of the demoniac... VERY interesting video, on a subject I hadn't given that much thought before. Thanks!
One thing I noticed from when Jesus told the man "Go home to thy friends, and tell them how great things the Lord hath done for thee, and hath had compassion on thee.": I think this is another indication that the man was a Gentile. He was identifying not only Himself as God, but also the supreme, omnipotent, true God of the Jews as the One Who had healed him. His message was explicitly anti-pluralist, and yet gentle and compassionate in its declaration of the Word. Praise God!
Mike I liked the bible study helped with a lot of questions I had about demons because in my church we have experienced casting out demons that seemed to be stronger than others but I always thought that all demons were about the same and also the fact of more demons being in someone makes them worst is something I never noticed.
Mike, enjoy your teaching. Best on the planet! Why did the pigs run down the embankment and drown? I simply believe they did it by choice. Demons had no idea they would do that; they wanted a host, but the unclean pigs reasoned death a better state than possession. Upon the pigs death, they were sent to the abyss. Demons never have requests answered in the affirmative with Jesus except here. Why? Jesus knew what they would do. They couldn't get over the cliff fast enough. Keep up the good Biblical teaching. I do pray for you often.
I love hearing from you Mike, I side with the Nephilim from Genesis 6 idea, but I would say...they "want" a host, but they don't require one. I always wondered why demons had such different characteristics from angels. Angels never posse anyone from scripture, but demons seem to be doing this all the time. Also, angels seem to be WAY more powerful than a demon. There are a lot of moments in scripture that display the power of these angelic beings.
Paul Kennedy I agree. I wonder if this is, in part, why fasting and prayer drives them out. If, by fasting and glorifying God, we make our flesh a very uncomfortable and undesirable place to dwell, they’re compelled to flee. Not to give people too much credit, this may be off base. God can cause any to flee with a word.
Not sure what demons are but it does seem that demons and fallen angels are different beings. Would be interesting to know what the time period Jews thought they were. There must be some info somewhere. Qumran maybe? I would think that any info from 2nd temple Jewish sources would be very relevant. I know Michael Heiser has a book coming out pretty soon on the subject.
*I visited Israel in 2010. My memory is that we stopped in Gadera, near the Sea of Galilee, to discuss this story. The tour was led by a Hebrew scholar.*
Thank you, Pastor Mike, for all you do for us online. I don't comment much but watch your content quite a bit. I hope this isn't too off topic from this video, but since it is on the topic of demons, I have a couple questions, one primary question. Can satan and/or demons speak thoughts into our mind? If so, how can I tell what is from them, and what garbage thoughts come from my own wicked nature? Thank you for clarity on this issue.
Yes they can. Demon possession was so prevalent in the NT, yet pastors rarely address it and act like it’s non existent or rare. But in the Bible it was common, even people not following the apostles were casting out in Jesus name. Jesus told them not to stop them, if they aren’t against us they are for us. Isaiah Salvidar on UA-cam has a deliverance ministry and really delves into the spiritual realm.
And Let’s NOT Forget This Man Had To Humble Himself To JESUS CHRIST In Order For JESUS TO HELP HEAL SAVE N DELIVER Him From Those Demon spirits JESUS NEVER FORCES OR MAKES US COME TO HIM 👉THE BIBLE SAYS WHOSOEVER IS WILLING LET HIM COME TO ME ( TO OPEN THE DOOR 🚪 OF OUR HEARTS TO JESUS CHRIST ) N HE WILL COME INTO OUR HEARTS N CHANGE US ❤️🙏🏽📖🙏🏽❤️
What’s interesting to me is this: once Jesus cast out the demons, this man was restored immediately to sanity. He wanted to be with Jesus, but Jesus told him to go and spread the good news of his deliverance. I believe that deliverance is for today, but only discernment from the Holy Spirit will tell us who needs it. In my opinion, some people with mental illness do need deliverance, while others have a biological issue. For those with biological issues, we should be saying prayers for healing. They should also get emotional support from other Christians. The rest is up to our Lord.
Great series. With regards to the apologetic, I didn't think it was that complicated. Girgesa on the shore is the likely locale but is a tiny village, little known. Gadara was a larger city in the region and the authors writing to a more distant audience would have referenced the region as Gadarenes because of this. Gerasa was the most prominent city in the area and again it is argued both Gadara and Giresa would have been within its regional boundaries. Gerasenes would have made sense to knowledgeable more distant readers. Gadarenes in a similar way. The other explanations didn't really make much sense to me. Loving the series though, working my way through, lockdown giving me plenty of time to focus. God bless
Hi mike, people self harm to mask, even if for a short while, their inner pain. It’s a way of finding some short term relief form the emotional pain they are suffering with. Granted, many do it purely for attention, but on the whole they are suffering internally.
The man in the caves cut himself day and night, and Jesus cast demons out of him. Relief by mitigation isn’t relief at all it just feels like to. Akin to doing drugs or drinking to suppress feelings. Sinning to feel better isn’t really better at all.
Oh wow!!! I never even realized that about the pigs. I always wondered why they chased Him out but if since the pigs cost so much... And the demons wanting to cause trouble for our King!! 😐
Just a fun fact, A7X is a modern and very popular metal band. A7X stands for "Avenged Seven Fold" which I believe is a refrence to the bible verse about a cast out demon returning to the body it had previously possessed with 7x more demons. One of their most famous songs is called "Hail to the king". I'll give you one guess as to who their king is. Another song of theirs is called "God hates us".
Pastor Mike, I struggle with what you said about not thinking the end of the story is bad. However, the end of this story, our world is bad and only the return of Jesus or our own deaths seem to be what our hope is in. Revelation and what Jesus says in Matthew indicates everything is supposed to get unbearably bad. So, until death or Jesus remakes Heaven and Earth, I have no hope a lot of times that problems in our world can ever get better. How do you deal with this?
That was very good, loved the identity incite. I wonder what we may learn considering other parts of the story. a) Why did the demons not want to leave the area b) How did 6000 demons quickly arrive at a single suggestion to be allowed to go into the pigs c) Why did Jesus agree to their request and cast them into the pigs.
Hello Mike! I have a question for you.. Are all these teaching videos of yours Sunday sermons? Or are they simply dedicated bible studies? If they aren´t Sunday sermons, how would you tackle that? How would you prepare? Would you go as much into detail as in your teaching videos? Or would you focus more on just getting the main point across? Anyways I greatly appreciate your videos! They help a lot!! God bless you Mike. Best wishes, Bastian (from Germany) :)
Ptr. Mike Winger Hello Sir I am currently studying this passage as I went through it and read Mark 5 and Matthew 8:28 I got confused. Was there 2 demon possessed men or just one?
Question: I've been studying Roman's and the thing I've come across is that the sacrifices that had to be made in the old testament and jesus's death on the cross, all had to be a blood sacrifice. When you were talking about cutting and how u saw there was a couple scriptures in reference to demons and cutting I was wondering if cutting could be a blood sacrifice to satan..?
it's not a blood sacrifice to satan or anyone else. i think that cutting is a manifestation of severe mental and/or emotional distress and/or mental illness. there's probably various reasons why people cut themselves. i've heard that one of the reasons people cut themselves is to distract themselves from their emotional or mental pain by inflicting physical pain because to them physical pain is more bearable than emotional or mental pain. it's sad.
I met a girl in highschool who cut herself as some part of worship ritual thing. I don't remember if she was Wicken or a Witch or if those are the same thing or not.
What are your thoughts regarding the Matthew 8:28 account which states two demon-possessed men versus the Mark 5:1 and Luke 8:26 accounts, which mentioned only one man. Please advise and blessings in Jesus.
Considering all the extra complications and problems that come from medication… I think the answer is no, hell no, medication does not help a guy with a demon.
Mike I'd love to hear your thoughts on folks who claim to never sin at all after believing in Jesus. Ran into one the other day and it blew my mind. The man actually never would directly answer me "yes" or "no" when I asked him, "You have never sinned since believing in Jesus?" Another Christian I'm acquaintances with said there was a movement of this kind some 30 years ago, but its dwindled. For example this first man I mention, he might ask, "So you say you believe in Jesus. Let me ask you: do you sin? *slight pause* Hmmmm...." lol
One of my favourite parts of the Bible is when God uses a demon to do some damage. God is a badass! 14 Now the Spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the Lord tormented him. 1 Samuel 16:14
1168 views and 47 comments, with 139 likes and 1 dislike. Regardless, minute 25:45 we read of how Jesus came to the worst possible person. (There is no one who is beyond grasp of salvation). W.E Sangster from a 1966 publications asks: Does the Holy Spirit dwell in me? How can I tell? I can tell by the fruit of His presence (Gal 5:22) LOVE - Can I love people I don't like? JOY - Am I a happy Christian? PEACE - Am I poised and serene? LONGSUFFERING - am I free from self-pity? KINDNESS - "I was hungry and you gave me meat. . . ' GOODNESS - My seviour went about doing good. Do I? FAITHFULNESS - If He slew me, would I still trust Him? MEEKNESS - Am I so crass that I confuse meekness with weakness? TEMPERANCE - Am I temperate in all things? I am shocked, Lord Jesus, to find how engrossed I have been with myself. I look back over the years and it has been mostly self, self, self. I want to die to self: to my opinions and preferences, tastes and will. I want to die to the world, its approval and blame, and die even to the approval and blame of my brethren and my friends. I would study to show myself approved unto Thee.....
Last I knew you can control the kind of ads that are shown to your viewers... how does an ad for a spiritual occult website get shown to me at the start of this? Are you tolerating this knowingly? What are your thoughts about this? Did Mike explain this in another video?
This proves Jesus is God manifested in the flesh Isaiah 9:6-7. This also proves that fallen angels and/or demons are not omniscient - or else they would have known that being cast into the pigs would have caused their demise. God knew this though. Jesus just proved to his apostles and everyone in that town that he truly is God on earth as The Son of Man. Great video!
How in the world did the Bible survive during the pioneer times ...how was scripture interpreted in that era? We are studying and listening culturally now to the word of God.. I love learning . So, most common ppl do not have true knowledge like an apologist/ thelogian
Mike, I realize that some scriptures have wider applications. Concerning Mt 12: 43-45, I heard one preacher also apply these verses to our nation, collectively. I thought he might be onto something, especially since we're witnessing evil increase exponentially in our generation.
At around 30 min there is a sentence about how demons dont react to angels. Can someone point out an example for demond reacting to angels in the bible? Im really curious.
When it comes to screaming and cutting himself. You could say hes trying to scream back his own soul. The, soul is the part thats unique for you, and different from the Spirit. The cutting is somehow trying to letting out the sick heat/the demons. So the cutting, screaming is not in its self satanic, but the symptom of trying to deal with the problem already harboering within. So cutting. Release the intruders. And screaming reconnect to the original self 👍👍
I use this when someone says that demons can possess Christens. Can a Demon force God to leave His Temple, "For do you not know that God bought you with a price and your body is not you own, but His Temple." Can a demon chase God form the temple which HE bought with the blood of Jesus and indwells? No he can not, for if a demon could then force Him, then God would not be God, and sent God is God no demon can force God out.
About the demons.. here in the philippines, many people throughout all the years have reported that they've seen Unearthly Creatures with the names, "Manananggal", "Kapre", "Tikbalang", "Duwende/Diwende", etc.. maybe these creatures are part of the fallen angels.. just wanted to share. That's all.
How did the demonized man (or men, Matthew 8:28), support himself (themselves)? The descriptions of screaming, self cutting, nakedness, and isolation (not only living in the tombs, instead of a house, but, according to Matthew 8:28, also in the mountains), and extreme "difficultness" (perhaps "savagery"), such that no one was even able to pass through that road (Matthew 8:28), make it extremely unlikely that he (or they) either worked to support himself (themselves) or was (were) supported by charity! Is it unreasonable to infer that he (they) lived not only in, but from the contents of, those tombs (in other words, eating funerary food offerings--or even the corpses)?
Pretty easy to understand that this was the region of the city, not the city itself. The man did not live in the city, he lived among the tombs. Also, I live in a small town. People identify this whole area by the name of a city that they have heard of. No one would have a clue where my town was located, but when they say the name of this other city, they have a general idea. The city is over 60 miles away, but many say near there.
At John 8:58 there is a verb γενέσθαι (=genesthai). This is a verb, and is derived from γίνομαι (=ginomai), which has a range of meanings, such as to be, to do, to make, to appear, to arise, to seem, to come, to come to pass, to happen, to finish, to perform, to become. Its Strong's number is 1096. Its grammatical form γενέσθαι is given in Bagster as 'aor. 2, infin', which means it is a 2nd aorist type verb and an infinitive. An infinitive is the form beginning with 'to', as in those examples just listed, or to fish, to write, to complete, to err, to dodge, to invent. This word γενέσθαι occurs in other places with a strong future aspect, such as at Revelation 1:1 'things which must be soon TO ARISE '; 'what things have TO COME TO PASS'(Revelation 4:1); 'the things which must be soon TO ARISE' (Revelation 22:6). The context in John 8:58 is Jesus ' superiority over Abraham, so Jesus says, 'Before Abraham is TO ARISE, I Am'. The verb γενέσθαι is best rendered with that strong future aspect. But why, then, when we look at the KJV, do we find this strict infinitive, γενέσθαι, translated as 'was', an imperfect past tense put for an infinitive? It says, 'Before Abraham WAS, I am'. But that gives the silly impression that Jesus was around before Abraham! Whenever did an infinitive verb become an imperfect past tense verb? When we look at other versions we see the same dodge. One version has γενέσθαι as 'came into existence '. Yet they have it correctly as an infinitive in other places. These inventions and grammatical violations all serve the polytheistic error of making Jesus seem to have been around before Abraham, so turning him into one of Mysticism's gods in its three gods system. At John 17:5 there is the common and simple present infinitive verb εἶναι (=einai), Strong's 1511. Jesus is speaking of 'the world TO BE', or 'the world TO COME'. Why, then, does the KJV have that strict infinitive as 'was'? One version has the verb as a noun, 'existence'. The false translating makes Jesus seem to have been around before the world came into being. But neither the grammar nor wider context nor common sense allow such a mystical notion of 'the man Christ Jesus' (1 Timothy 2:5). Something more sinister the KJV does is put "made" for ἐγένετο (=egeneto) at John 1:3 instead of "arose", smuggling in a plural passive verb for what is a singular active verb, and it gives the silly impression that Jesus was the Creator rather than God. Kinda like when KJV puts "created" instead of "founded" in colossians 1:16
Hi Mike do you know why Jesus told the man with legion to go and tell people about what the Lord did for him but when it came to physical healing Jesus told the person to not tell anyone?
So I am here because I thought that speaking in tongue and crazy things I would see in church were not real. I have a friend who is very open to this and I want to gain my own understanding. Deliverance...i guess is what this is called. Can anyone fill me in? Im only 5 minutes into the video. Let's see what I learn?
The true meaning of this event is this: Pigs are an obvious enough indication of Gentiles, swine being the most unclean of foods to Jews, and this raises the question of a political meaning. When the language is understood, it is seen by the pesherist that this is a record of a turning point in the gospel period. 'Legion' was Theudas-Barabbas, the Chief Therapeute, whose order of Therapeuts who lived in Egypt but whose elders & married members had a center in Rome, so living in both the 'TOMBS' ( the Egyptian pyramids) & the 'MOUNTAINS' ( the 7 hills of Rome). Therapeuts held communal meals. These ecstatic communal meals lasting all night, are described by Philo and account for the image of frenzy. Even when they lived in Rome, they could be zealot, having 'demons'. But in this year, 31AD, that of Agrippa's change of allegiance, Theudas was also changing to Sadducee views, less hostile to Rome, & the spirits of zealotry went into other members of his mission, those led by a man called the 'Two Thousand', a title with similar meaning to the 'Five Thousand'.
How awesome and sovereign is the living God?!? In possessions, where earthly men attempt exorcisms. The unclean spirits resist expulsion so fiercely and violently. Threatening, refusing and even injuring the vessel and the exorcist. But, in the case of Christ. The unclean spirits literally approach Him, begging for mercy, and immediately acknowledging that their going to have a really bad day, and that they have no hope in resistance.
Exorcists in the Catholic Church first have people checked out for medical and psychological problems with doctors before proceeding. Father Malachi Martin wrote a documentary of five exorcisms. He was an exorcist but the documentations were from other exorcists. I'm not a Catholic but if I knew of someone with a problem that serious that is where I would go to for help.
I question whether or not all mental illness is solely demonic, I'd say for the most part...but scripture says Jesus healed the sick, cast out demons...and healed those who were lunatic...wouldnt that classify some mental illness as separate from demonic?
Me too. Psychiatrists deal with mental illness that stems from traumatic brain injury or diseases that affect the brain such as tumours, syphilitic dementia etc
Hey @mikewinger I was wondering if you could do a video on how us as believers can explain in a loving way Noah Ark and God killing the whole world to people who don't know who Jesus is, as well as people who are curious and wondering why if God loved his creation so much he would wipe them. Ive had a lot of non believers ask me a lot about this and I try to give the best answer I can but it ends up being not fruitful.
I like how in-depth you go pastor Mike. I always get something out of these. God Bless your ministry. Of course, I still have a worry (hence the comment). I don't know about this idea that believers are safe from demons. Biblically, it seems like a sickness. You have a cure, but that does not imply you won't get a cold. A great example is this passage. Look at what Jesus is doing here. He is working with this guy for awhile. There is an untold back & forth between Christ & this legion of demons. At last, they make a deal. If Christ agrees to send them into the swine, then they will leave. Just to note, Jesus has the right & ability to cast them out. I am not impuning Jesus' authority, just saying that it was not Jesus saying, 'Demons be gone!', & they left. This was a real struggle. These are the kind that can only be removed by prayer is said by Jesus elsewhere also. There is a method, & it is not cut & dry, ready for the fire. Last part, you end up realizing, from other passages, that Jesus cast out demons from believing Jews & later it is said in the epistles the believers are doing this. The event where the demon claimed to know Jesus & to have heard of Paul, but then chases these believers out, comes to mind. Belief in God & the Holy spirit is not sufficient to be immune to demons. There is a real struggle, in which the Holy spirit helps. Great talk all the same. A blessing for sure.
As an ex Jehovah's witnesses, the first time I read this it broke me. When the man was told to go tell what God did, but he went and told what Jesus did.....that was a biggie for me in leaving behind that watchtower teaching. Pray for me . I'm the only one in my family that's out.
Sure...prayers from India
I will be praying for you brother Dave
I’m a ex Jehovah witness too!
Prayers from Romania
I hope things are getting better and more of your family has come to Christ
I know this was difficult for you. I know also that you had the courage to touch on such a difficult and painful subject, and that you felt you had to. And i know based on your postures, etc that it was from your heart. I dont know if you got my email, but i want you to know i was shaking and crying from the relief of your touching on a subject so near to me. And you brought me hope. I love Jesus. I long to see him. And i know if He hadnt allowed this (bipolar) to happen to me (thorn in my flesh and my brain indeed), I would never have been able to do any of the good He worked through me, wretched and filthy that I am. I often read this passage, sometimes over and over and over. I had to believe there was a reason and a hope, and i am so glad you shared the facts you did. Thank you again and again. I believe when i die, i will finally be able to meet with Him, and in that moment, the monsters in my head will never hurt me or anyone else ever again. It is what i live for. Thank you so much for the courage to teach on what so many have avoided like the plague. I have hope.
N.A. Mitchell
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My thoughts, exactly. Cheers
Love this video, very informative as always! I used to self harm and cut myself as a teen and was very suicidal. I do believe it was demonic, I had so many intrusive thoughts of self harm and suicide until I was saved and delivered from everything! It's been three years now and I have yet to have any suicidal thoughts or self harm in any way. Praise God!
Bri Garcia wow that’s so amazing :)
*Stay close to Jesus, Bri. If any unwanted thoughts try to come in, tell them, "I have the mind of Christ," based on one of Paul's books in Scripture. God bless you!*
*". . . We have the mind of Christ . . ." (1 Corinthians **2:16**)*
I’m so glad you are now okay, at peace. Praise to the Prince of Peace for setting you free. “Intrusive thoughts” always suggests demonic activity to me.
WOO HOO! Praise the Lord and welcome to our FAMILY!
At least, for me, The LORD delivered me from demonic depression that I suffered from from for 3yrs. 😭 Glory to YHWH 🕊💜
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God bless and keep out of evil's harm your ministry, your Church, you and your family. Always a great joy to listen to you preach from Transylvania, Romania
The savior n lord jesus heared the non stop scream of the poor man from the other side of the sea and came all the way to deliver him...my favorite part among the gospels of the lord ..it always gives me hope whenever I face hardship...keep screaming, and one day the lord will break every chain you r tied to
Great point! He will leave the 99 to go find and bring back the 1!❤
You blessed me with this comment today 🥰
This message in this study has blessed me so much. I saved it to listen to again and again.
Great teaching Mike! Although I did cringe when you said the "country of Africa" 🤔 We are a whole continent 😅 Really appreciate your ministry and may the Lord bless you! Love from South Africa 😊
Apologies for our ignorance!
I enjoy your preaching Pastor... it has helped me a lot over the past year. Thank you for your studies and teaching.
NB: The African... continent :)
I'm working and had to stop everything to make this comment. Thank you SO MUCH for presenting opposing sides. For someone raised only ever hearing one side of a thing, and then going and hearing the other side later in life, it can be really world rocking. The nephilim topic in particular, especially in our day, has blown up into all kinds of different things online, and that was my first exposure to that line of thinking at all whatsoever. Thank you for your balanced approach, and for the apologetic aspect you bring as well. The way you teach is the Holy Spirit leading for sure. You teach in the way that speaks to every person wherever they are and lays it all out there clearly. Blessings!
The Sea of Galilee (The Kinneret for Jews in Israel) is amazing. I was there in 2017 on a volunteer archaeological dig in partnership with the University of Haifa. The dig was, and still is, called the Kursi Beach Project; though the actual Kursi (derived from Gergesa) sits perched on the hill top. The beach site was also a Byzantine location but more or less it's port. Its very fascinating to be there and look up at the hills which are enormous with sharp like precipices, or escarpments, and see how it ties in with the story that took place. You can also take into account the sea levels must have been slightly different as well, but not too high, as some of these ancient towns, that still remain, would still need to of course exist rather than flooded with an exaggerated water level. The pigs must have stumbled down each narrow wadi or escarpment on their way down the hillside, but would meet the narrow stretch of flat land between the hill and the shores. I think a lot of us immediately picture a cliff and just a drop, but this is not the case when you see it.
Thank you for your videos, they are very helpful!
Blessings and prayers from Sweden.
As someone who used to "cut" I can explain it like this (at least in my case). 1. You suddenly have this thought in your head and think: I want to feel pain on my body and not my emotions anymore 2. If you dont believe how much pain I feel inside: here it is for you since we only trust physical pain (absurd cos then u usually hide the cuts 3. I deserve this pain from the cut 4. I MUST purge. 5. The pain brings some sort of rush which calms you. I would not at ALL be surprised if cutting was Biblically demonic. Not at all.
The man with legion that Jesus cast out cut himself in the caves day and night. So Jesus addressed & attributed self mutilation to demons.
I love that you make things practical to understand. I like the perspective that you bring to the table. A genuine desire to simplify the word and teach it with understanding. Your teachings have given me some of those “ah-ha” moments.
Very sensitive handling of the topic of mental health. I do believe the church is finally starting to look at this much more holistically. :)
I really admire the way you exegete and teach the Bible. Another great lesson. I was especially impacted by the "found it was empty" bit. I have never noticed that small detail about before, but it dovetails perfectly with the idea of the indwelling Holy Spirit being given to the saved man. Perhaps you could call it a theological undesigned coincidence if you like. :) That one is going in my journaling Bible (where I write all the most important observations about the text) for sure.
Mike, I really appreciate that you give us multiple sides to hard issues. On many matters the answer can be we don't know for sure. I've seen too many times even in my own church (which is great BTW) where the pastor gives an answer without offering up a dissenting view. The average church goer is much smarter than given credit and is hungry for information. Bible Thinker indeed!!!
Thank you Br. Mark for taking on this passage of scripture! For those who argue that town was 30 miles away, have never been to a pig farm or any farm that has a pig for that matter. They stink! 2000 of them in a herd would make the city dump smell like the botanical gardens by comparison! Just for fun, I did some quick number crunching and based on a goal weight of 280lbs (at time for slaughter in the US) and the current price per lb (according to the USDA), the farmers would have lost between $840k and $2.1 million at market, if this incident had happened today.
Greetings from Singapore. TQ Pastor Mike for this teaching with such clarity.
I'm caught up on this entire series! Once again, very interested and thankful for it.
I’ve always believed that when people try to pray to departed saints, that they are actually contacting demons in disguise as saints. If Satan can appear in the light of God, then this is surely possible. Christ is our mediator to the father, but when we contact saints, we become the medium.
Satan is the only light and Christ is his son. Christ and Satan are the same person. Everything you have been taught about Christ is a lie.
@@satanchrist2883 , can I ask you a question? Why do you believe what you have just said is the truth?
Brandon Ball the Bible has cryptic messages. “Jesus” as you refer to him said he came to do the will of the o e that sent him. Satan is the one who sent the Christ. The early Christians understood this. There are very old copies of bibles with satanic imagery on them. Satan Christ is the truth.
The Father sent the Son. I don’t doubt what other ancient writers have written; people have written a lot of things. But the Bible is not cryptic in a sense where God or Christ is portrayed in some mysterious negative connotation. Give me any context and I will show you why
@@Hypnotoad206 Satan Christ says that the jews love their father the devil. This proves that "Yahweh" is the evil one. The jews follow the "God" of the old testament aka "yahweh". Satan Christ is the way the truth and the life.
I'm delighted that you tackled the question as to "what happened to the owners of the pigs? Did they get somehow reimbursed for the loss of the herd, did they just have to endure the financial loss?" I guess many pastors simply don't want to provide a hypothesis or don't know of a hypothesis to provide. Others simply brush it asides with the "that's not what this passage is about" convenient answer... Thank you for sharing this video.
Amazing teaching.
God bless you Mike. May the good Lord keep you and bless you
It also seems to me that there is a symbolic nature to this event:
Swine are an unclean animal and only a few verses earlier Christ seems to equate swine with people who don’t understand and are angered by His truth (Mat 7:6). Thus, it is reasonable to say that swine may represent the unsaved who prefer to wallow in sin rather than turn to Christ. Christs response to the legion’s question “have you come to torment us before the time?”, suggests that it is His will to allow the demons to remain in this world until His second coming. If you accept these two premises then it seems logical to conclude that those who love sin and choose to reject Christ, in-so-doing, open themselves to demons and those who choose their own demons over Christ will earn death in the final judgement. Thus, while the demons may have believed that they were causing havoc by killing the swine, they may also have been acting out a symbolic version of what will happen to those who choose to reject Christ.
Just a thought. As always- Great video Mike!
Enjoyed this teaching. Thank you brother Mike. Father be with you and your family always in the Mighty Name of Jesus 🙌🏻❤🙌🏻
Great sermon once again Mike! This helped clear up some questions I had myself on the passage. Very well critically analyzed and taught! Thank you!
Adam
Hi Mike!
A couple thoughts because I love your studies and I've been fascinated with this miracle today.
-Hellenistic villages used scapegoating exorcism practices. They'd have a priest deal with a strongman/principality and plead him to mobe his demons the many villagers into one individual so the rest could be more productive. That's why this man had so many and did what he did. It's also why territory was such a big deal, from the storm on the sea to the cleansed demoniac not being allowed to leave the Decapolis with Jesus.
-Demons do lie to people, but they don't maintain a lie when under God's authority. If you've ever bound some and think one is lying, just ask it "Will that stand as the truth before Jehovah God?" It'll say yes or it'll beat around the bush until it tells the truth.
-Demons come and go through open doors in our temple. Those open doors are sins, especially idolatry and unforgiveness. There's also the generational rules that still apply in this generation (meaning the sins of the father are the sins of the son, cursed for several generations, blessed for thousands, etc.). You grant permission for demons to take lease in your temple by sin. If they are leasing or squatting, that doesn't mean they're imprisoned. They're tenants, squatters. They go and look for their buddies sometimes or to receive instructions or to work on other assignments. At those times you're not under the influence, so you have good times and can rest and clean up your temple. But if you still have sin, and still haven't kicked those demons out, then they can come back in with their friends BECAUSE THEY'RE ALLOWED TO BY YOUR SIN and you haven't changed the locks.
-You CAN be a Christian and have a demon. But with Jesus' authority, we can cast them out from each other with relative ease, and even ourselves if we are disciplined. Deliverance is the children's bread!
-You are right about possession, and the distinction between possession and oppression! But, possession is a lie. We are created in God's image, not Caesar's or Satan's. We cannot sell what God has built, or what God has bought with His very Blood!
-Would medication have helped the demoniac? Yeah, a little bit. Just a little bit. That's why psychiatrists consider schizophrenia terminal but still prescribe powerful tranquilizers and sedatives for treatment. There's a little bit of relief from the one set of symptoms (the voices and compulsions) in exchange for a lot of physical symptoms but a quieting of the voices.
-Exorcism IS a religious term! It's usually got to do with moving demons around, while Jesus ACTUALLY delivered people and CAST those demons OUT of circulation!! In those times, there were no Catholic exorcists, but there were Kabbalistic and Hellenistic and tribal and Hindu exorcists. But in these times, we have The Resurrected Son of God, Who gives us His authority to minister FREEDOM, not barter and lousy satanic contracts.
-We know about fallen angels, and we know about nephilim. I personally think that the principalities of the sky are fallen angels, and that the spirits we cast out of people are mostly seeds of the nephilim (with a fallen angel seed here and there). I'm not too attached to this theory, but I think both races are still here today.
Love your ministry, Mike, so I wanted to share what I've learned! Demonic influence has had a big impact on my family (But God's influence is Greater!) so I've got a studious interest in that side of creation. Keep it up!
Leave it to Mike Winger to glean tons of insights & understanding for us, FROM INCIDENTAL DETAILS, such as the healing of the demoniac... VERY interesting video, on a subject I hadn't given that much thought before. Thanks!
Thank you Ptr mike cause God bless me through your teachings and Godbless you with limitless anointing and favor from our living God.
One thing I noticed from when Jesus told the man "Go home to thy friends, and tell them how great things the Lord hath done for thee, and hath had compassion on thee.": I think this is another indication that the man was a Gentile. He was identifying not only Himself as God, but also the supreme, omnipotent, true God of the Jews as the One Who had healed him. His message was explicitly anti-pluralist, and yet gentle and compassionate in its declaration of the Word. Praise God!
Mike I liked the bible study helped with a lot of questions I had about demons because in my church we have experienced casting out demons that seemed to be stronger than others but I always thought that all demons were about the same and also the fact of more demons being in someone makes them worst is something I never noticed.
Mike, enjoy your teaching. Best on the planet! Why did the pigs run down the embankment and drown? I simply believe they did it by choice. Demons had no idea they would do that; they wanted a host, but the unclean pigs reasoned death a better state than possession. Upon the pigs death, they were sent to the abyss. Demons never have requests answered in the affirmative with Jesus except here. Why? Jesus knew what they would do. They couldn't get over the cliff fast enough. Keep up the good Biblical teaching. I do pray for you often.
LOVING THIS MARK SERIES!!!!
I really enjoy your teachings, I just wish I could be in on your Q&A's as well.
What a bible teacher!
Thank you Pastor Mike for addressing the different interpretations and the apologetics issues. 'preciate ya.
Very interesting to connect the demoniac cutting and the Baal prophets cutting and modern cutting. I have never thought about it.
Thanks Mike , you brought so many interesting detail to this topic.It's very goooooood!!! Be blessed!
“God’s Kung fu is good!” 😂 so true.
Actually tho..!!
Lol
Thanks Mike...that was great..the 5 options was super. ❤📖🐑🦁
I love hearing from you Mike, I side with the Nephilim from Genesis 6 idea, but I would say...they "want" a host, but they don't require one.
I always wondered why demons had such different characteristics from angels.
Angels never posse anyone from scripture, but demons seem to be doing this all the time. Also, angels seem to be WAY more powerful than a demon. There are a lot of moments in scripture that display the power of these angelic beings.
Paul Kennedy I agree. I wonder if this is, in part, why fasting and prayer drives them out. If, by fasting and glorifying God, we make our flesh a very uncomfortable and undesirable place to dwell, they’re compelled to flee. Not to give people too much credit, this may be off base. God can cause any to flee with a word.
Not sure what demons are but it does seem that demons and fallen angels are different beings. Would be interesting to know what the time period Jews thought they were. There must be some info somewhere. Qumran maybe? I would think that any info from 2nd temple Jewish sources would be very relevant. I know Michael Heiser has a book coming out pretty soon on the subject.
The rephaim(offspring that died in flood) look for a host
We all have a chance now!
Thank you Jesus.
*I visited Israel in 2010. My memory is that we stopped in Gadera, near the Sea of Galilee, to discuss this story. The tour was led by a Hebrew scholar.*
Thank you, Pastor Mike, for all you do for us online. I don't comment much but watch your content quite a bit. I hope this isn't too off topic from this video, but since it is on the topic of demons, I have a couple questions, one primary question. Can satan and/or demons speak thoughts into our mind? If so, how can I tell what is from them, and what garbage thoughts come from my own wicked nature? Thank you for clarity on this issue.
Yes they can. Demon possession was so prevalent in the NT, yet pastors rarely address it and act like it’s non existent or rare. But in the Bible it was common, even people not following the apostles were casting out in Jesus name. Jesus told them not to stop them, if they aren’t against us they are for us.
Isaiah Salvidar on UA-cam has a deliverance ministry and really delves into the spiritual realm.
Fascinating insights that I have wondered about for a long time. tku ✝️🙏😄
And Let’s NOT Forget This Man Had To Humble Himself To JESUS CHRIST In Order For JESUS TO HELP HEAL SAVE N DELIVER Him From Those Demon spirits JESUS NEVER FORCES OR MAKES US COME TO HIM 👉THE BIBLE SAYS WHOSOEVER IS WILLING LET HIM COME TO ME ( TO OPEN THE DOOR 🚪 OF OUR HEARTS TO JESUS CHRIST ) N HE WILL COME INTO OUR HEARTS N CHANGE US ❤️🙏🏽📖🙏🏽❤️
What’s interesting to me is this: once Jesus cast out the demons, this man was restored immediately to sanity. He wanted to be with Jesus, but Jesus told him to go and spread the good news of his deliverance. I believe that deliverance is for today, but only discernment from the Holy Spirit will tell us who needs it. In my opinion, some people with mental illness do need deliverance, while others have a biological issue. For those with biological issues, we should be saying prayers for healing. They should also get emotional support from other Christians. The rest is up to our Lord.
Great series. With regards to the apologetic, I didn't think it was that complicated.
Girgesa on the shore is the likely locale but is a tiny village, little known.
Gadara was a larger city in the region and the authors writing to a more distant audience would have referenced the region as Gadarenes because of this.
Gerasa was the most prominent city in the area and again it is argued both Gadara and Giresa would have been within its regional boundaries.
Gerasenes would have made sense to knowledgeable more distant readers. Gadarenes in a similar way.
The other explanations didn't really make much sense to me. Loving the series though, working my way through, lockdown giving me plenty of time to focus.
God bless
Mike, I know you won't see this comment since the video is so old, but you should do an interview with Dr. Heiser on demons and angels!
Hi mike, people self harm to mask, even if for a short while, their inner pain. It’s a way of finding some short term relief form the emotional pain they are suffering with. Granted, many do it purely for attention, but on the whole they are suffering internally.
The man in the caves cut himself day and night, and Jesus cast demons out of him. Relief by mitigation isn’t relief at all it just feels like to. Akin to doing drugs or drinking to suppress feelings. Sinning to feel better isn’t really better at all.
Been waiting for this!
Oh wow!!! I never even realized that about the pigs. I always wondered why they chased Him out but if since the pigs cost so much... And the demons wanting to cause trouble for our King!! 😐
Just a fun fact, A7X is a modern and very popular metal band. A7X stands for "Avenged Seven Fold" which I believe is a refrence to the bible verse about a cast out demon returning to the body it had previously possessed with 7x more demons. One of their most famous songs is called "Hail to the king". I'll give you one guess as to who their king is. Another song of theirs is called "God hates us".
Their king? JFK?
Pastor Mike, I struggle with what you said about not thinking the end of the story is bad. However, the end of this story, our world is bad and only the return of Jesus or our own deaths seem to be what our hope is in. Revelation and what Jesus says in Matthew indicates everything is supposed to get unbearably bad. So, until death or Jesus remakes Heaven and Earth, I have no hope a lot of times that problems in our world can ever get better. How do you deal with this?
Great to hear the holy spirit speaking through you Mike . Bless you
That was very good, loved the identity incite. I wonder what we may learn considering other parts of the story. a) Why did the demons not want to leave the area b) How did 6000 demons quickly arrive at a single suggestion to be allowed to go into the pigs c) Why did Jesus agree to their request and cast them into the pigs.
Hello Mike!
I have a question for you..
Are all these teaching videos of yours Sunday sermons? Or are they simply dedicated bible studies? If they aren´t Sunday sermons, how would you tackle that? How would you prepare? Would you go as much into detail as in your teaching videos? Or would you focus more on just getting the main point across?
Anyways I greatly appreciate your videos! They help a lot!!
God bless you Mike.
Best wishes,
Bastian (from Germany) :)
Ptr. Mike Winger
Hello Sir I am currently studying this passage as I went through it and read Mark 5 and Matthew 8:28 I got confused. Was there 2 demon possessed men or just one?
Question: I've been studying Roman's and the thing I've come across is that the sacrifices that had to be made in the old testament and jesus's death on the cross, all had to be a blood sacrifice. When you were talking about cutting and how u saw there was a couple scriptures in reference to demons and cutting I was wondering if cutting could be a blood sacrifice to satan..?
Heather Miles I absolutely believe this to be true. I also believe it to be true of abortion, which is shedding blood constantly.
it's not a blood sacrifice to satan or anyone else. i think that cutting is a manifestation of severe mental and/or emotional distress and/or mental illness. there's probably various reasons why people cut themselves. i've heard that one of the reasons people cut themselves is to distract themselves from their emotional or mental pain by inflicting physical pain because to them physical pain is more bearable than emotional or mental pain. it's sad.
I met a girl in highschool who cut herself as some part of worship ritual thing. I don't remember if she was Wicken or a Witch or if those are the same thing or not.
What are your thoughts regarding the Matthew 8:28 account which states two demon-possessed men versus the Mark 5:1 and Luke 8:26 accounts, which mentioned only one man. Please advise and blessings in Jesus.
Considering all the extra complications and problems that come from medication… I think the answer is no, hell no, medication does not help a guy with a demon.
Mike I'd love to hear your thoughts on folks who claim to never sin at all after believing in Jesus. Ran into one the other day and it blew my mind. The man actually never would directly answer me "yes" or "no" when I asked him, "You have never sinned since believing in Jesus?" Another Christian I'm acquaintances with said there was a movement of this kind some 30 years ago, but its dwindled. For example this first man I mention, he might ask, "So you say you believe in Jesus. Let me ask you: do you sin? *slight pause* Hmmmm...." lol
One of my favourite parts of the Bible is when God uses a demon to do some damage. God is a badass!
14 Now the Spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the Lord tormented him. 1 Samuel 16:14
Hello, i just found out this channel. Can you also please do short videos
In the explanation of the man, it makes me think of the Agori Sadhu in Varanasi near the Gangs river 😢
And laughing yoga and the rituals used by the sadhu. You can see the boards of nails these guys sit on for extended times
1168 views and 47 comments, with 139 likes and 1 dislike. Regardless, minute 25:45 we read of how Jesus came to the worst possible person. (There is no one who is beyond grasp of salvation). W.E Sangster from a 1966 publications asks:
Does the Holy Spirit dwell in me?
How can I tell?
I can tell by the fruit of His presence (Gal 5:22)
LOVE - Can I love people I don't like?
JOY - Am I a happy Christian?
PEACE - Am I poised and serene?
LONGSUFFERING - am I free from self-pity?
KINDNESS - "I was hungry and you gave me meat. . . '
GOODNESS - My seviour went about doing good. Do I?
FAITHFULNESS - If He slew me, would I still trust Him?
MEEKNESS - Am I so crass that I confuse meekness with weakness?
TEMPERANCE - Am I temperate in all things?
I am shocked, Lord Jesus, to find how engrossed I have been with myself. I look back over the years and it has been mostly self, self, self.
I want to die to self: to my opinions and preferences, tastes and will. I want to die to the world, its approval and blame, and die even to the approval and blame of my brethren and my friends.
I would study to show myself approved unto Thee.....
Thank you thank you! So many aha moments in this one❤️
Last I knew you can control the kind of ads that are shown to your viewers... how does an ad for a spiritual occult website get shown to me at the start of this?
Are you tolerating this knowingly? What are your thoughts about this?
Did Mike explain this in another video?
I wish I could control them!
Ramping up . . . exciting!
Dr. Michael Heiser books. ANGELS and THE UNSEEN REALM....excellent studies on this material
I am wondering if you have read Mike Hisers book Unseen realm
GREAT prayer 55 mins
This proves Jesus is God manifested in the flesh Isaiah 9:6-7. This also proves that fallen angels and/or demons are not omniscient - or else they would have known that being cast into the pigs would have caused their demise. God knew this though. Jesus just proved to his apostles and everyone in that town that he truly is God on earth as The Son of Man. Great video!
How in the world did the Bible survive during the pioneer times ...how was scripture interpreted in that era? We are studying and listening culturally now to the word of God..
I love learning .
So, most common ppl do not have true knowledge like an apologist/ thelogian
I appreciate your work and study...I feel I can trust to some level in your personal work..
People with certain disabilities can have superhuman strength.
I don’t think meds can fix mental illness at all. They can alleviate some of the symptoms some of the time.
Jesus calmed his spiritual storm.🤗
Mike, I realize that some scriptures have wider applications. Concerning Mt 12: 43-45, I heard one preacher also apply these verses to our nation, collectively. I thought he might be onto something, especially since we're witnessing evil increase exponentially in our generation.
At around 30 min there is a sentence about how demons dont react to angels. Can someone point out an example for demond reacting to angels in the bible? Im really curious.
When it comes to screaming and cutting himself.
You could say hes trying to scream back his own soul. The, soul is the part thats unique for you, and different from the Spirit.
The cutting is somehow trying to letting out the sick heat/the demons.
So the cutting, screaming is not in its self satanic, but the symptom of trying to deal with the problem already harboering within.
So cutting. Release the intruders. And screaming reconnect to the original self 👍👍
I use this when someone says that demons can possess Christens.
Can a Demon force God to leave His Temple, "For do you not know that God bought you with a price and your body is not you own, but His Temple." Can a demon chase God form the temple which HE bought with the blood of Jesus and indwells? No he can not, for if a demon could then force Him, then God would not be God, and sent God is God no demon can force God out.
Amen Mike
Can someone please tell me which translation of the Bible Mike is reading from? Thanks.
About the demons.. here in the philippines, many people throughout all the years have reported that they've seen Unearthly Creatures with the names, "Manananggal", "Kapre", "Tikbalang", "Duwende/Diwende", etc.. maybe these creatures are part of the fallen angels.. just wanted to share. That's all.
Have you addressed the difference between Mark / Luke, who say there was one demoniac, and Matthew, who says there were two?
How did the demonized man (or men, Matthew 8:28), support himself (themselves)? The descriptions of screaming, self cutting, nakedness, and isolation (not only living in the tombs, instead of a house, but, according to Matthew 8:28, also in the mountains), and extreme "difficultness" (perhaps "savagery"), such that no one was even able to pass through that road (Matthew 8:28), make it extremely unlikely that he (or they) either worked to support himself (themselves) or was (were) supported by charity! Is it unreasonable to infer that he (they) lived not only in, but from the contents of, those tombs (in other words, eating funerary food offerings--or even the corpses)?
Pretty easy to understand that this was the region of the city, not the city itself. The man did not live in the city, he lived among the tombs. Also, I live in a small town. People identify this whole area by the name of a city that they have heard of. No one would have a clue where my town was located, but when they say the name of this other city, they have a general idea. The city is over 60 miles away, but many say near there.
Do you think there is any relationship between this and Hebrews 6:4-8?
At John 8:58 there is a verb γενέσθαι (=genesthai). This is a verb, and is derived from γίνομαι (=ginomai), which has a range of meanings, such as to be, to do, to make, to appear, to arise, to seem, to come, to come to pass, to happen, to finish, to perform, to become. Its Strong's number is 1096. Its grammatical form γενέσθαι is given in Bagster as 'aor. 2, infin', which means it is a 2nd aorist type verb and an infinitive. An infinitive is the form beginning with 'to', as in those examples just listed, or to fish, to write, to complete, to err, to dodge, to invent. This word γενέσθαι occurs in other places with a strong future aspect, such as at Revelation 1:1 'things which must be soon TO ARISE '; 'what things have TO COME TO PASS'(Revelation 4:1); 'the things which must be soon TO ARISE' (Revelation 22:6). The context in John 8:58 is Jesus ' superiority over Abraham, so Jesus says, 'Before Abraham is TO ARISE, I Am'. The verb γενέσθαι is best rendered with that strong future aspect. But why, then, when we look at the KJV, do we find this strict infinitive, γενέσθαι, translated as 'was', an imperfect past tense put for an infinitive? It says, 'Before Abraham WAS, I am'. But that gives the silly impression that Jesus was around before Abraham! Whenever did an infinitive verb become an imperfect past tense verb? When we look at other versions we see the same dodge. One version has γενέσθαι as 'came into existence '. Yet they have it correctly as an infinitive in other places.
These inventions and grammatical violations all serve the polytheistic error of making Jesus seem to have been around before Abraham, so turning him into one of Mysticism's gods in its three gods system.
At John 17:5 there is the common and simple present infinitive verb εἶναι (=einai), Strong's 1511. Jesus is speaking of 'the world TO BE', or 'the world TO COME'. Why, then, does the KJV have that strict infinitive as 'was'? One version has the verb as a noun, 'existence'. The false translating makes Jesus seem to have been around before the world came into being. But neither the grammar nor wider context nor common sense allow such a mystical notion of 'the man Christ Jesus' (1 Timothy 2:5). Something more sinister the KJV does is put "made" for ἐγένετο (=egeneto) at John 1:3 instead of "arose", smuggling in a plural passive verb for what is a singular active verb, and it gives the silly impression that Jesus was the Creator rather than God. Kinda like when KJV puts "created" instead of "founded" in colossians 1:16
Hi Mike do you know why Jesus told the man with legion to go and tell people about what the Lord did for him but when it came to physical healing Jesus told the person to not tell anyone?
So I am here because I thought that speaking in tongue and crazy things I would see in church were not real. I have a friend who is very open to this and I want to gain my own understanding. Deliverance...i guess is what this is called. Can anyone fill me in? Im only 5 minutes into the video. Let's see what I learn?
The true meaning of this event is this: Pigs are an obvious enough indication of Gentiles, swine being the most unclean of foods to Jews, and this raises the question of a political meaning. When the language is understood, it is seen by the pesherist that this is a record of a turning point in the gospel period. 'Legion' was Theudas-Barabbas, the Chief Therapeute, whose order of Therapeuts who lived in Egypt but whose elders & married members had a center in Rome, so living in both the 'TOMBS' ( the Egyptian pyramids) & the 'MOUNTAINS' ( the 7 hills of Rome). Therapeuts held communal meals. These ecstatic communal meals lasting all night, are described by Philo and account for the image of frenzy. Even when they lived in Rome, they could be zealot, having 'demons'. But in this year, 31AD, that of Agrippa's change of allegiance, Theudas was also changing to Sadducee views, less hostile to Rome, & the spirits of zealotry went into other members of his mission, those led by a man called the 'Two Thousand', a title with similar meaning to the 'Five Thousand'.
Thank you.
How awesome and sovereign is the living God?!? In possessions, where earthly men attempt exorcisms. The unclean spirits resist expulsion so fiercely and violently. Threatening, refusing and even injuring the vessel and the exorcist. But, in the case of Christ. The unclean spirits literally approach Him, begging for mercy, and immediately acknowledging that their going to have a really bad day, and that they have no hope in resistance.
Exorcists in the Catholic Church first have people checked out for medical and psychological problems with doctors before proceeding. Father Malachi Martin wrote a documentary of five exorcisms. He was an exorcist but the documentations were from other exorcists. I'm not a Catholic but if I knew of someone with a problem that serious that is where I would go to for help.
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I thought they wanted him to leave because they disturbed the spiritual territory (comfort zones, mindsets,) of the people.
I question whether or not all mental illness is solely demonic, I'd say for the most part...but scripture says Jesus healed the sick, cast out demons...and healed those who were lunatic...wouldnt that classify some mental illness as separate from demonic?
Me too. Psychiatrists deal with mental illness that stems from traumatic brain injury or diseases that affect the brain such as tumours, syphilitic dementia etc
All these Gerasa/Gergaseen places sound alike or extremely similar to my ears.
Hey @mikewinger I was wondering if you could do a video on how us as believers can explain in a loving way Noah Ark and God killing the whole world to people who don't know who Jesus is, as well as people who are curious and wondering why if God loved his creation so much he would wipe them. Ive had a lot of non believers ask me a lot about this and I try to give the best answer I can but it ends up being not fruitful.
I suggest looking into how evil those societies actually were
I like how in-depth you go pastor Mike. I always get something out of these. God Bless your ministry.
Of course, I still have a worry (hence the comment). I don't know about this idea that believers are safe from demons. Biblically, it seems like a sickness. You have a cure, but that does not imply you won't get a cold.
A great example is this passage. Look at what Jesus is doing here. He is working with this guy for awhile. There is an untold back & forth between Christ & this legion of demons. At last, they make a deal. If Christ agrees to send them into the swine, then they will leave. Just to note, Jesus has the right & ability to cast them out. I am not impuning Jesus' authority, just saying that it was not Jesus saying, 'Demons be gone!', & they left. This was a real struggle. These are the kind that can only be removed by prayer is said by Jesus elsewhere also. There is a method, & it is not cut & dry, ready for the fire.
Last part, you end up realizing, from other passages, that Jesus cast out demons from believing Jews & later it is said in the epistles the believers are doing this. The event where the demon claimed to know Jesus & to have heard of Paul, but then chases these believers out, comes to mind. Belief in God & the Holy spirit is not sufficient to be immune to demons. There is a real struggle, in which the Holy spirit helps.
Great talk all the same. A blessing for sure.