Duratool Desoldering Pump
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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2020
- Duratool Desoldering Pump 230V
Heated desoldering pump - 40 Watt
Single handed operation
Lockable spring loaded plunger
2mm Desoldering Tip
Quick Review: It works ok and is very good value for money. Would be good for occasional use or perhaps for site work when travelling lite. I would however recommend spending more if you can afford it and buy the version with the electric pump such as the 80W Desoldering Station 230V 480°C - D00672
Where to buy
cpc.farnell.com/duratool/d018...
Also available from Amazon and Ebay from various seller - Розваги
a very detailed video explaining the pros and cons of this product. really loved it and will order one and convert it into a automatic one with a small compressor.
Just grabbed one of these after watching your review last week, surprisingly good actually. I was removing a micro Arduino clone that had all the pins soldered and it made easy work of it, the nozzle is indeed a bit big but once the solder melted on each pin I could give it a jiggle, hit the button and it sucked it all up cleanly. Not sure if it will work a second time but it has potentially saved me its value in time and parts already. Thanks for making this!
These cheap de-soldering tools are fantastic.
I couldn't justify spending $200+ on a full de-soldering station that took up heaps of bench space and would only be used once or twice a year, so took a chance spending US$8 on one of these. Money well spent!
I was concerned about build quality at first, but then successfully de-soldered 125 DB-25 pins and 80 IDC header pins in less than an hour. That job alone paid for the tool.
The one I found on eBay came with a couple of different size tips and a stainless steel wire to poke through the tube, helping remove any solder stuck in the middle. Mine also had a silicone washer between the vacuum chamber and the heating element, so I didn't have any issues with handle heat or suction escaping.
Microwave Dave I total agree it is very good value. It depends on your usage case I have a very expensive Pace desoldering gun which has not much better performance. If you find a good desoldering unit that works for you stick with it. I have on occasion had to desolder a lot of components in the production environment and that’s really the only time the more expensive units will pay their way etc. Thanks for watching and great comments regards chris. Interesting you found some small tips.
I should have said there is notes to a very good motor driven vacuum pump in the show notes, I’m guessing less than 100 dollars for you and they work very well
Excellent! Just bought one and found your video just what I needed to know, Many thanks.
Glad it was useful. Thanks for watching regards Chris
@@allthegearnoidea6752 Funny what you say about removing the solder bin. I have tried to remove it on the new one I have bought and it is rock solid and have not yet moved it! I wonder whether the rubber seal is rather on the big side. I know, from you video what to do but it must be a really tight fit when new. Perhaps turn it on and try again. Thought I would practice whilst it was new and cold...
Thank you ever so much for showing us how to get at and clean out all the sucked up solder. My son bought me this exact de-soldering pump last year (for fathers day) and it really is brilliant for "Through Hole" de-soldering. I've used mine on adding chip sockets inside my Commodore C16 computer, when i was upgrading to the 64k RAM and i've just used it on replacing my son's thumb sticks on his PS4 controller. It does get a wee bit hot though and extra care needs to taken when using the pump but it does the job for me :)
Thanks so much for watching the video, great comments and glad you found the review useful. I’m very impressed with your computer upgrades your doing a tremendous job. I do think from the description of the work your doing you would benefit from a more advanced tool look at the Duratool desoldering station with the electrical vacuum pump. The percussion from the spring going off in a hand pump can be quite damaging to small pads and tracks especially on multilayer boards. Maybe you can make a video of your computer upgrade I would love to see that. Thanks best regards Chris
A great review, Chris...much enjoyed.
Theoobovril Thanks for watching and comments regarding Chris
Thank you Chris for a very thorough review. My favorite solder sucker is the Japan Engineer SS-02 - a bit expensive but very well made and features a pin on the plunger that clears the inlet. I think the secret to all "powered" solder suckers - as others have mentioned - is letting them warm up fully and sucking long enough for the solder to clear the tube. Regards, David
David V yes I have a Japan Engineer one, to be honest I haven’t found it any better that cheap pumps, but the silicon tip is more gentle on the PCB pad so that’s advantage. I still think a good powered pump is really the way to go but it’s the very devil to try and find a good one. Thanks for watching regards Chris.
@@allthegearnoidea6752 It is difficult to find good powered pump suckers - I think you already own the best (Pace). I used a Pace Kit for many years at work and miss it. My personal choice for my retirement bench was the Aoyue Int 474A++ sold by SRA Soldering. It has good suction, a good variety of tip sizes and replacement parts are available. It has a "gun" style working end with a trigger control. I also have an iron style manual pump like the one you featured in this video - very early on the plastic button that locks the plunger down rounded off and not longer functioned. In true 'Merican style I used a the back portion of a Winchester 30-30 spent cartridge to make a new lock button - it has all the markings plus the (used) primer. David
Thanks for the video. I was afraid to open mine when I didn't know exactly where it opens. Now I know, but I still had to pry with a screwdriver because it was stuck quite hard. If you have trouble desoldering smaller component legs, put some gel type flux on before and there are no issues whatsoever. Flux makes the solder melt instantly and it sucks it so clean it looks almost new. Highly recommended to use flux.
Thanks so much for watching the video and leaving a nice comment. I am glad you found it useful. My best regards Chris
What a clever idea Chris & cheap too, could have done with one of those 40 odd years ago when I first started soldering, in those days de soldering for me was a pair of pliers & a soldering iron & hope for the best
ptronix yep I think we all started out that way when components were worth salvaging. Thanks for watching and comments regards chris
Got one of these today mine had a metal stand with it.
Used it to remove a volume actuator off my sony amp and it worked very well.
I don’t think the build quality is the best but they certainly do work and I cannot complain about the price. Thanks for watching and making time to leave a comment much appreciated. My best regards Chris
A well done review Chris. As I mentioned to you, my first one didn't last long at all before the element failed, second one is OK though. Seem to work well on valve gear tag strips and the like too.
Oh I didnt think to try it on a tag strip I really should have. Thanks Andrew regards Chris
Great recommendation Chris, bought one two day's ago and does the job well, cheers.
Harvey De Niro Thanks Harvey I think they are good value and do the job. Be interesting to see how long they last etc. Having paid thousands for professional tools they don’t work much better. Stay safe regards Chris
Yep, fantastic tool and great price, stay safe.
Best review on this product...plus you are the only one who showed how to empty the chamber without breaking the black plastic guide. On the other hand other reviewers constantly got a better desoldering performance from this tool . Maybe its all about a technique with this cheep tool. Either way it was really informative. Cheers!
It works very well for the price but doesn’t compare that well with the more expensive vacuum pumps but it’s ok. The circuit board makes a lot of difference how much clearance around the the pin and hole. The board I was using may have been a bit tight
@@allthegearnoidea6752 Today I started socketing the DRAM of my 8bit Atari and I did an extensive use of the tool. You are right, the performance of the pump if heavily affected by the characteristics of the layout of the circuit (size of ground plane and pads, distance between pins etc).
Multiple pins components can only be removed with hot air, the pump alone can not free all pins 100%.
Yes quite right and good luck with that Atari
Nice and fair review Chris. I think for a hobbyist occasional user it will be adequate
Radiocruncher Yes good for occasional use and the price is good. Thanks regards Chris
I'm hoping there will be a modicum of sucking before I leave this coil. "A hole lot of suckin goin on" is one of my favorite tunes. Great video, and thanks for persevering to endeavor these videos! Cheers! ;)
Full Wave Recked Yes I’m wondering what happened to my share of the Sucking. I expected more. Thanks for watching and comments
@@allthegearnoidea6752 Someone needs to invent an "All you can suck" buffet. With a sneeze gard, of course...
@@allthegearnoidea6752 After living in Japan for a while, I learned that after work you go home, take your shoes off, wash your ass, and get dinner, and get sucked. Not necessarily in that order. But it all came out in the wash. I like your videos. Please keep doing what you are doing. Cheers!
Thanks Chris you have made my mind up for me I have been looking at the cheaper pumps and wondering how good/ bad they are.I only do about 1 to 2 radios a year and can’t justify spending on the more expensive units This will do me fine for the limited amount of work I do
David Roberts I think it would be fine for occasion use and at the price they are almost disposable. They don’t work perfectly every time but that’s true of my expensive desoldering tools. Thanks for watching regards Chris.
A great realistic review Chris. I guess because the tube is under constant heat it will never get blocked unless you get a component leg wedged in the vacuum tube. I the heat issue around the handle is an issue that could be solved as you said but will they do it?... nope!
George Christofi yes it gets uncomfortably hot and it’s not the kind of desoldering tool you will leave running all day like the professional gear. But it’s good for occasional use etc. Thanks for watching and comments regards Chris
I wished i had one like that when i was replacing 40 pin z80's/memory controllers in my early days of madness :-D
The manual solder sucker is great when new.
I held my desolder sucker directly above the joint, then heated the joint from the side, then slamming down the tip into the molten solder and hitting the button at the same time, takes a few mins to get the hang of it.
Your manual one is an R.S favorite, the spring pulls the piston, not pushes like most.
i used one for years in the electronics repair section of a factory i worked at, would have been nice to have a helper helping me but tight assed bosses..... yep yep typical bosses :-(
zx8401ztv Yes that cheap manual pump from RS is still my favourite and I still think it works better than the very expensive Japanese engineer desoldering pump that I also own. No excuses for you old employers not buying a professional desoldering station time is money and many engineering managers a bean counting idiots. Thanks for watching regards Chris
@@allthegearnoidea6752 I had an avo 8 meter and a crappy digital that kept vanishing, crude irons and the same r.s solder sucker you have.
They didnt buy anything to help me, not even the schematics for the modules/regulators/camis door controllers and everything else i repaired.
I built up a testing method and list of faults that i kept in memory, not fun for a dopey sod like me lol.
Massive stress and depression really made me ill.
Bosses are stupid!!.
Same design of my yihua 929 and i use it for desoldering mouse switches and power supply capacitors good performance so far its more efficient than the traditional desoldering pump
Hey Thanks! Looking for one of these 120V side o th' pond, Should be about the same. So nice of you to go through the details. I can't deal with the two step method. For a few boards a year this should do. Thanks Again!
I think it will do fine for occasionally use it works better than I expected and costs nothing. Thanks for watching and making time to comment. Stay safe best regards Chris
Certainly a good enough tool for young players starting out on a budget Chris. I wish I had one of those when I first started out as a ten year old with little money. Some teflon tape wrapped around the end of the yellow tank might help give a some insulation from the heat after all 100C is the boiling point of water. I don't know if that would affect the fit of the tank and the vacuum seal though. You would have to experiment a bit to see. Thanks for the look see. Stay well. ATB Doug.
Doug McArtin yeh the heating is manageable it’s not the sort of tool I would leave switched on all day but it’s a good tool for those starting out and for occasional use. I would have been happy with it when I used to salvage all my components from old TV sets as a boy. Come to think of it I still have those components LOL. Thanks regards Chris
Just bought one on Amazon for $41.00. Call it inflation or maybe I'm just crazy. All I can say is if it works it will be worth it.
Wow that does sound expensive. But I’m glad it worked for you. Thank for watching and nice comments my best regards you, Chris
Thanks for the review, If I did a lot of desoldering I'd go with the high-end motorized vacuum pump products, as a hobbyist I think I'll stick with the manual pumps & solder wick.
Mack Fisher it does work better than a manual but not sure how long it will last. It’s ok for the money. Thanks Regards Chris
Thank you !
My pleasure thank you for watching and making time to leave a comment. My best regards chris
Excellent
Was helpful 😃
My pleasure thank you for watching and the nice comments.
Well, that sucks :D but seriously, a very thorough review. I've invested in far too many Abeco solder suckers (same as the green one you showed) which I've somewhat got accustomed to over the years, so they will probably outlast me. :) All the best, Ast.
Im a fan of the Abeco, I also have the much more expensive and polished Japanese Engineer version with the silicon tips and I dont think it works any better than the Abeco at quarter of the price. Thanks Aston Regards chris
I have one of those and it got so hot in the holder stand that it melted the pegs that are part of the handle, melted the seals in the barrel portion too. I had to trim the pegs off and get metal standoffs and longer screws. Still works but has lost a lot of suction power.
Yes they run very hot. I wouldn’t leave it unattended etc but ok fo occasional use. Stay safe thank for watching regards chris
I will get the one Codeeze gave me fired up one day :-)
Brettski yes it’s worth a go they do work. Thanks regards Chris
A very thourough review, Chris!
How did you know I had one of those manual suckers, haha.
Never used it much as it takes so many tries to get some desoldering done...
The desolderpump of the JBC isn't the best either. It clogs up very frequently and I've made it a habit to completely take it apart and clean it after every use, so I don't run into the frustration of it not working once I need it the next time.
The other week I replaced some caps on a very old dusk-dawn switch that had bare traces covered in solder and the component leads folded over... I just wicked the solder away and straightend the leads. For regular desoldering I just heat the solder and pull the component out, after that wick the old solder and clean up the pad/through-hole plating. Only for larger multi-lead components I use the vacuum tool.
MrDubje interesting you say your JBC isn’t the best, I have a relatively expensive Pace desoldering unit and I have never been happy with that either given the price tag. It blocks constantly requiring a lot of cleaning and has poor vacuum. I was going to try and find something better I guess I will not consider the JBC either now.
@@allthegearnoidea6752 Even the person giving us the soldercourses at work says the JBC desoldering tools are no good. He thinks Weller is better, but I'm sure he means the ones that produce the vaccuum by venturi valve. You need compressed air for those stations.
12:06 "Stupid people not welcome" clause. XD
Thanks for watching and comments regards Chris
Handy video Chris. I am desperately in need of some sort of de-soldering kit but can't justify the £100+ for the larger Duratools . I'll give this a go I think
spankysmagicpiano yes I think it’s a good choice for occasional use works better than a traditional desoldering pump. Thanks for watching regards Chris
I see you can burn yourself on the handle so it would be a no-go for me. Totally dislike an ordinary de-soldering pump. I have gotten used to the de-soldering iron I have
been using for decades. Has a rubber syringe bulb to suck up the solder . They seem to last 15 years or so before the syringe bulb cracks to pieces. So I bought
a new one this year. Very good review that shows I did good. Positive side: heating tip with the larger hole won't clog .
Negative side: Needs an inch of spongy rubber/ silicone piece where it gets hot .That should makes things a little safer.
he's the Master It ok for the money. Desoldering tools are like religion, some people like them but generally all bad. Thanks for watching regards Chris .
It seems like it isn’t too bad at all, I wonder how it compares to my S993 desoldering gun? Note I’m tempted to buy one to find out.
Defpom's Electronics & Repair They are good for the price point but not as good as ones that have a vacuum pump in the base station. They are worth a try and a laugh for the price. Thanks regards Chris
Be interesting to see what you think in a review Scott. I believe they may exist with alternative tips and a stand but didn’t find that version.
very nice I think I have one somewhere haven't used it yet I have always fitted one of those rubber sleeves to the tip of a desoldering pump I dont think it would work on that one ! not sure what they are called those rubber sleeves but used lots of them at work !
thehappylittlefox aka benji The Japanese engineer made desoldering pumps have a silicone tip and it’s kinder to the PCB pads. Thanks for watching see you later on Graham’s live stream
@@allthegearnoidea6752 Thanks Chris I have one of those Japanese ones too haven't used that one yet either not sure if those rubber sleeves are silicone that I have we had a special 3 pronged tool to fit them with
This is very interesting. One might modify this. I might incorporate an HVAC evacuation unit with a foot switch for some root tooting sucking action. Any gal that sees this in action is sure to loose her knickers! Thanks for posting! Cheers!
Mine failed after 10 minutes use. The body melted where it meets the tube going down to the tip (where you were complaining of it being a bit hot) and fell out! Clearly they're not all like that but still. It was branded "Yahao" if that means anything.
i have been looking forever for one of those but with electric suction instead of the somewhat crappy push button spring loaded thingy, do you happen to recommend or know of any pump like that that i can buy without selling a kidney? or maybe attach a vacuum source to one of those, maybe from aquarium bubble pump or coffe machine pump, a fridge compressor is a great vacuum pump but too big and noisy
cpc.farnell.com/duratool/d00672/desoldering-station-uk-eu-plug/dp/SD01384?st=desoldering%20station
These are available cheaply in the UK from various sellers including CPC, Amazon and Ebay. The are very good value for money and work well and all the spare parts you could ever need are available on ebay. I have been using one of these at work for a few years. The heating element blows up occasional but a complete replacement gun only cost peanuts
@@allthegearnoidea6752 thank you i think i will order one from ebay. seems a reasonable price. i have been desoldering ics and other multi leg components by blowing compressed air once the solder is melted, works extremely well if you havent tried it yet. problem is the splashes of solder go everywhere
Hugo B. I have been known to heat up the whole board with a heat gun and smack the PCB on the desk, the parts just fly out. Ok for parting out scrap PCBs etc.
Not doing industrial professional work here anymore Chris. For simple work, still using a beat up 1972 Edsyn DSO17 "Soldapullt". Evilbay is flooded with china fake copies of it. Have one of those noisy Gaojie S-993A cheap pumps promoted by Defpom, with mixed results due to nuisance and repeated clogging of the tips.
I haven’t had many clogging issues with mine, I think the trick is to keep it sucking long enough to clear the tube out before releasing the trigger so the molten solder doesn’t stop in the tube before getting to the chamber.
To be honest I have had clogging with even expensive tools my Pace was £1500 and it clogs worse then any other desoldering tool I have used which is quite a lot. I think it’s part of the game etc. You just get skilled at unclogging the buggers.
@@allthegearnoidea6752 I have the Duratool electric pump one, and I find that the secret to avoid blockages is to give it plenty of time to heat up throughout. It takes a while for the tube leading into the chamber to heat up sufficiently, even when the display says it's already up to temperature.
@@TheDefpom Probably right. I was using it for repairs on a Tektronix 492 power supply board, which has that special "secret formula alloy" solder. I think it may have had either silver or indium? in the mix. Either case, it had a higher melting point. The supplied tip on mine actually had a cylindrical steel tube (shim) inserted in the tip hole. The clog would not budge, and I ended up destroying the tip and forcing that tube out. That pokey tool thingy supplied for unclogging was absolutely useless.
@@allthegearnoidea6752 OK Chris, I ordered one on Evilbay just for **it's and giggles. One can never have enough inexpensive de-soldering pumps :)
You could make a tip on your lathe 😁🍿
Mr E You know I did consider that just to see if it improved anything but I couldn’t be bothered. I have better desoldering equipment on the bench so didn’t really have the time to mess around any further. But it’s a good unit for money.
You can remove the screws for the tip. I suggest you dont pull it out because it wants to pull the element out with it. The Vacuum tube blocks up and good luck cleaning that. I keep mine to show people what they should avoid buying.
I have bought this after watching a couple of reviews. I bought it to repair PS5 controllers, but seem to be having problems. It just doesn't seem to desolder properly. Do you have any tips, as I am a novice? I have flux on order which I am hoping will make things easier.
I suspect a lot of the components legs are small and the tip on that sucker is very large. Something like a PS5 controller is probably going to be something difficult to work on. Flux may help. But it is also difficult to work on double sided boards with a solder sucker. If your removing ICs and you don’t need them you may be better cutting them off. Look at my last video I show some techniques for desoldering
Brilliant, thank you so much for your response. Greatly appreciated 👍🏻
@@PhatControllerz if the desoldering doesn’t go well don’t beat yourself up it’s a hit and miss process. Remember you don’t get to see all the times I fail.
Thank you, and to be honest, I didn't think of that. Everyone has to start somewhere. I'll keep you posted with how it goes. I do have my eye on another desoldering tool, so if it goes wonky, I try that one. Another cheapy, but looks the part and comes with different sized tips. Fingers crossed. Thanks again for your help! 😊
I found 1mm tips on Aliexpress by searching for "Zhongdi desoldering tip".
I have heard of the existence of smaller tips but I couldn’t find them myself.
@@allthegearnoidea6752 a.aliexpress.com/_mqKLiXf
I tried ordering them just now. I'll try to remember to add a comment on whether they're better or not.
@@allthegearnoidea6752 So I finally got them and they work flawlessly. I tried them on a mechanical keyboard. Desoldering both the switches and the 4-pin RGB LEDs (fairly small pins) was a breeze. Heavily recommended.
Good job finding those smaller tips and thanks for the update and the information thanks
I see several 1mm tips on e bay - has anyone found one that fits the duratool?
I haven’t, but I am told they do exist but so do rocking horse teeth!
My word all this time about the smell. Do something else constructive in your life. This isn't for you pal..