A Disney Villains Retrospective Part 5: Fantasia Villains
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- Опубліковано 9 сер 2020
- In this entry, we're looking at Chernabog and a few lesser-known baddies from Fantasia and Fantasia 2000. My apologies for my inevitable mispronunciation of at least one of the names of the composers.
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Fantasia Genesis Footage (NintendoComplete): • Fantasia (Genesis) Pla...
Epic Mickey 2 (IosonoOtakuman): • Epic Mickey 2 (ITA)- P...
Kingdom Hearts (Boss Fight Database): • Kingdom Hearts: Cherna...
Kingdom Hearts 3D Dream Drop Distance (Boss Fight Database): • Dream Drop Distance: C...
Dreams Come True (WDW News Today): • Disney Dreams Come Tru...
Sorcerers of the Magic Kingdom (Zannaland): • Sorcerers of the Magic...
Cinderella Castle Mystery Tour (RobFuz): • Cinderella Castle Myst...
Fantasmic at WDW (ReadySetLoL): • Fantasmic! Complete Sh...
Once Upon a Dream Parade (Tijger1234567): • Disneyland Paris: Once...
World of Color Villainous (Theme Park Insider): • World of Color Villain... - Фільми й анімація
For me, Chernabog is the king/god of all Disney villains. If Maleficent is the mistress of all evil, then Chernabog is the master of all evil.
Nah I think of the horned King is the master of all evil 😈
Honestly, in everything that uses Disney in a meta context, if Maleficent isn’t the final boss, it’s almost certainly Chernabog. You can argue about which one is more powerful, though I’d argue that it’s Chernabog...with Maleficent as a very narrow runner-up with extra consolation for being the more proactive of the two.
@@ThatRandomEncounterGuy chernabog is more like cuthulu or the devil a force of nature type threat, while Magnificat is more of a human social threat. one is unbeatable the other is not.
“Love your work.”
And Bill Cipher is the King of Nightmares and Insanity
A Night on Bald Mountain is the most metal thing Disney has ever animated.
That and Gargoyles
And Hellfire from Huchback of Notre Dame.
I know, it always terrified the shit out of me as a kid, but now I love it
Two words; 'Black Cauldron'. (but yeah, he totally rocks.) =)
Gods I cannot wait for him to cover Frollo.
I always thought the real villains of Fantasia 2000 were the celebrity hosts
Yeah, watching them now I always wince a bit. Except for Angela Lansbury, who is perfectly classy, and maybe James Earl Jones.
No, absolutely not! Besides I personally liked those celebrity hosts.
@@lisanettles2731 i saw no problem with them except for the ones that hosted the sorcers apprentice. that was bad
No the true villian is James Levine (the conductor). He was a terrible person in real life so I think the same holds here.
@@jennamedlyn 👀 whats the tea
Fantasia featured demons, nudity, and evolution. I cannot imagine it being made and released any other time.
Especially since most popular evolutionists now seem convinced that evolution conflicts with the biblical narrative.
I saw some people pointing out that Chernabog may be the root of all dark magic powers in Disney. He maybe the one behind Queen Grimhilde's powerful magic and the Maleficient's Master. For me, that is canon.
That seems like the best explanation
Also probably the source of power that turns the boys into asses in Pinocchio.
@@curtisleblanc5897
In pinoccio, the main bad guy says to the two cats to meet at the crossroads at the midnight. In folklore that is reference to make a deal with a devil
@@kindkindred
yup. Already heard it in this guys Pinocchio vid.
Sorry.
@@kindkindred one of them was a fox
i love that Chernabog has these huge wings. they really add to his imposing presence and they look nearly plausible to carry his size.
I love the way chernabog sheepishly looks around when he hears the first church bell
@FrankieNolan perhaps foreshadowing his later characterizations
With regards to Kingdom Hearts, I've read that Chernabog was originally supposed to be the final boss and the origin of the Heartless. The original plan for his battle apparently involved Sora, Donald and Goofy climbing up Bald Mountain to fight him
That would have been AMAZING!
Why is that making me think of a hobbits climbing Mount Doom scenario? XD
@@MrTristy22 Now I'm imagining Goofy going "Gawrsh, I can't carry it for you, Sora, but I can carry you. Hyuck"
@@marktrigg467 Funny since in the english dub of the first game Sean Astin voiced Hercules.
Boy looking at Disney's Golden Age (Snow White to Bambi) you can really see Walt Disney really wanting to push the envelope and be taken seriously as a movie maker and have animation be a credible art form for all ages. I miss Disney when it had ambition instead of being a giant evil monopoly that just churns out garbage while buying up the competition and slapping mickey ears on it.
I wonder how Walt would feel about what his company has become?
@ Sara Fontanini
Knowing what we do know about him, he would likely be impressed with all the technological achievements they have, but would probably be unimpressed with how increasingly conservative, safe, and unambitious they’ve become. He would definitely disapprove of their recent live-action remakes and most of the direct-to-DVD films. But given that he didn't live to see television evolve after his passing, I'm not sure how he would feel about their TV shows. Though I would bet he would be impressed with Pixar.
I agree. Snow White, Pinnochio, Fantasia, and Bambi truly are some of the greatest pieces of animation art ever made. I really wish I could make a video making a case about this. In my opinion, few animated movies made since have captured the sheer artistry those movies represent. World War 2 really got in the way and Disney started to lose interest in animation and wanted to focus more on theme parks.
Now that I think about it, there's a few similarities between the Jack-In-The-Box and Frollo from The Hunchback of Notre Dame-both kind of have similar facial features/structures, both disrespect women, and both meet a fiery demise.
Yup I thought it was frollo demon clown thing at first 😝
Wait, those were monks? Ever since I was a little kid I thought those were the townsfolk getting outta there and as far away as possible from the giant devil and his army of ghosts and monsters.
7:23 You see, the Horned King auditioned for the role of Chernabog, but he was still a new actor, and Walt wasn't sure he had enough experience to take the lead, so he cast the Horned King in a smaller role as the ghostly horseman. :)
In addition, after their films, the worst for the villains is yet to come, they get persecuted in The Queen of Hearts' courtroom. And we know how those trials always end, the unbirthday celebrations and a cat scaring a stupid dormouse, with comical results
Fantasia: the world’s first AMV.
Is it me or does the fire bird have the coolest creature design ever.
Your not alone! I think it has the most coolest design than any other Disney villain!
7:19 Maybe the Horned King is one of Chernabog’s minions?
Now that's a Film Theory
I really think that the life and death segment inspired Moana's "villain" in some way
In Moana, Te Fiti/Te Ka is essentially the Spring Spirit and the Firebird fused into one character, so you might be right
Even though he's not a villain, Yen Sid used to scare me when I was a child. He looked huge and sinister back then.
Even then I knew he wasn't a bad guy, but he scared me as much or more than Chernobog.
As for Dumbo and Bambi, I don't think they had villains. They had antagonistic characters.
Bambi might be terrified of Man, but all the man is doing is hunting, possibly even to feed his family. Disney did a great job of making him a foreboding character, and in the original novel, Man and his dogs are terrifying the way the animals perceive them and the scene with the hare and Bambi's aunt (I believe) traumatized me.
Ronno is much more of a villain like character, and even then he's just doing what male deer do for the most part.
In Dumbo, the female elephants are jerks, but I think the Ring Master, clowns, and audience are unknowing villains, just not what I would classify as a Disney Villain.
The female elephants are more of a villain than the circus staff ,they marginalised and made fun him because he was different and declared he was not an elephant,while the ringmaster only wanted his circus to do well,he whipped Mrs Dumbo,but she went crazy against people,and a public of mostly children,he never seem to take pleasure in any of his actions. The clowns may be more into it but it is not stated if that is simply part of their job,they are performers after all,even though they seems too peppy about it.
@@junichiroyamashita Yeah, those female elephants really ticked me off. But I wonder if Mrs. Jumbo would have been the same as anyone of them if Dumbo hadn't been her child?
Either way, "Baby Mine" is still one of the most heartbreaking Disney moments, so I feel like even if she was the same as the others, Dumbo changed her.
Saint Aqua
At one point, Yen Sid was originally going to actually be a villain.
It's that disappointed fury look.....
Like the one your parents might give to indicate your grounded big time.
Maybe the spirits that Chernabog manipulates are an example of how impure we all are.
You’d think a Fantasia themed ride at Disney World would be a no brainer. I feel like it be an instant favorite.
Imagine going through each story line with all that great music paying. Especially the ‘right of spring’ scene.
Headcanon time: I like to think Chernabog is Maleficent’s mentor. She harbours all the powers of Hell after all and her wardrobe mirrors Chernabog quite a bit, down to them both having horns. This is the hill I’ll die on.
Fitting since the original and new one turns a year older this year. Fantasia is 80 and Fantasia 2000 is 20. And it's the first of your list that has the villain based of mythology.
The Firebird has a resemblance to Rodan from Godzilla: King of the Monsters.
So happy to see Fantasia 2000 represented. The firebird sequence was honestly the most traumatic childhood movie memory I can think of. I often think of that being quite silly, but damn the sheer scale and intensity of the rampage coupled with the music and some design choices on the bird itself. It's definately intense. Here's to hoping the firebird gets more recognition; after all Fantasia 2000 is only 21 years old, nostalgia-ish revivals could await.
I invited my brother to see that movie on Disney + and he said that Rodan appeared.
I know this comment is 2 years old, but I just has to say that I had the same experience. It probably didn't help that I saw it in IMAX (real 3 story tall screen IMAX, not the stuff they have in every movie theater now). My only concrete memory of that viewing experience was being scared shitless by the firebird. It's interesting to me that the idea came from Mt. St. Healans, because I live western Washington, where it's located. Looking at the final shot of the mountain in the movie, it definitely has the iconic 'empty bowl' look the mountain has now. I wonder if my dad (who has a very interesting story about watching the eruption from a hill, and then having to run for his life because he was being pelted with boiling balls of mud) noticed it at the time.
What I like about the Firebird in Fantasia 2000 is that it's very reminiscent of the Balrog from The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001), even though it appeared two years prior, it still has that kind of Tolkien-like imagery. Even the way the Firebird arises parallels the Balrog. Saruman himself says to Gandalf, "The Dwarves delved too greedily and too deep. You know what they awoke in the darkness of Khazad-dum: Shadow and flame." The Nature spirit delved too deep into the mountain and awoke the Firebird that seemed to embody shadow and flame. George R.R. Martin himself paralleled that with the Doom of Valyria in his series A Song of Ice and Fire.
Interestingly, some of Chernabog's supernatural minions/captives also appeared in the House of Mouse. In one episode where Hades was the sole guest remaining during a withering heatwave, Mickey convinced Hades to stay on by unleashing the various spirits, thus impressing the god of the underworld.
When I was a kid, the "Night on Bald Mountain" segment always scared me. So much that once "Dance of the Hours" was over, I ended the tape. And yes, Bald Mountain was scarier than the T-Rex scene in "Rite of Spring."
Same! If the whole family was watching it, I'd get anxious as hell towards the end of Dance Of The Hours. And when it would end, I'd get up and leave the room. Haha
I was like that too until I beat him in Kingdom Hearts and I remember screaming at the top of my lungs when I did. I also remember how freaked out and scared my sister and I were when we both heard that familiar melody. Good times.
Man it would be really awesome if Disney made a 3rd Fantasia......
0:54 The Marching Brooms
1:04 The Tyrannosaur
1:16 Zeus and Vulcan
1:25 The Crocodiles
1:39 Chernabog
15:42 The Jack In The Box
19:57 The Fire Bird
22:29 Sir Jyill
When I was a kid, and before my family and I moved in with my grandmother, my mom would sometimes take me to my grandmother's place so she could babysit me for a bit. My grandmother has Fantasia on VHS. We would always somehow watch the entire thing from beginning to end. I've always loved Beethovens VI (Unicorns, Pegasi, Centaurs, Zeus, etc.), Rite of Spring (Dinosaurs), and Night On Bald Mountain. But when my little brother was old enough after my family moved in with my grandmother, Night On Bald Mountain always scared him. It was the same story for my sister for some time before she became fascinated with Night on Bald Mountain (She even has a Chernabog T-Shirt). But I haven't been able to watch Night On Bald Mountain all the way through for a long time, and honestly, I miss it. I don't know if my little brother will be willing to watch it even though he's 16 now.
I absolutely love Night on Bald Mountain! It’s very stunning and visually entertaining! Great job on this entry. A live action version of this story could be very cool! I agree with you that the Jungle Book remake is the best remake so far. The others are quite disappointing!
Which one the 1994 version or the 2016 version?
I saw two non Disney versions of the Jack in the Box.
1) From the preschool aimed show Sondra the Fairy Tale Detective where he resembles an actual Devil.
2) The Hallmark adaptation where he resmebled a jester and was voiced by Tim Curry making him sound like Pennywise the Dancing Clown.
I can answer the question at
7:36 to 7:39
That is actually a multi layered answer as well as show how sanitized from death we have been since the 1950s. Before the 1950s, when modern medicine matured and really began whipping out diseases left and right. Many people before this had routine run ins with death.
In fact the modern living room, is actually a joke on the old Parlor. Which is where, before funeral homes, people would actually hold the viewing of the dead before taking them to church for one last service before putting them in the ground. Plus before the 1950s, after so many years (an when the body was supposedly decayed enough) they would reuse the funeral plot and bury someone knew there. Their is also the fact that many people just didn't want to see their dead loved ones as bad people. So thus why they put crosses up to show they are christian. However, the cold fact is, this would not stop sinners from being dragged from their graves and taken to see satan.
So all those souls in the video are souls of countless damned from centuries of waiting in their graves. This also shows that the town itself is VERY old. For a new town would not have that many dammed people, even if they were living and dead.
So thus in quick sum, town is very old and people don't want to see their dead loved ones in a bad light. But that doesn't change the fact they were sinners in life.
TheWinged Hussar
Also, notice that the graves the souls emerge from are NOT marked with crosses, merely adjacent to crosses.
@@austinreed7343 That is another good point to. Also the hangmen noose images and ghost can easily represent how those souls died. Most likely murderers as well.
TheWinged Hussar
Same with the moat full of warriors. Some of them even appear to have dragged their horses to the dark side with them. Some even look more reptilian than human, even before Chernabog makes them into imps. Is it possible the town’s sapient population isn’t exclusively human?
I like the idea of this town being in the Forgotten Realms.
1:34 - Charnabog
15:39 - Jack in the Box
19:29 - Firebird
Just wanted to say that I'm really liking this series. I'm waiting eagerly for the Renaissance in special :)
One of Chernabog's minions can also be seen in "Make Mine Music" in the beginning of the "Willie the Whale" story.
You're not the only one who felt disturbed by Hans Christian Andersen's original works, especially The Little Mermaid (which I'm eager to see it). Ursula and her human alter ego: Vanessa are based on the sea witch and the thieving princess respectively and both of them are neutral characters rather backstabbing baddies like their counterparts. Just like the Tin Soldier and the Ballerina, the little mermaid never got her prince and she died as a sea foam unlike Ariel, who has a happy ending. Despite she got a soul and went to heaven, but it's a cruel treatment for the poor girl, especially her tongue got cut off and felt a terrible pain in her new feet like she's walking on knives. I totally agree with Mary Poppins' author P. L. Travers, the ending is more like a blackmail for children so they can respect their elders during the Victorian era since the mermaid will earn an immortal soul and go to Heaven for 300. If the children are good and obedient, they will shorten her sentence. If not, they will make it longer. Not just I found Andersen a sad and pathetic doormat as a person, but he was also a sadistic jerk.
Man Fantasia is the best Disney film ever made, I remember watching it for the first time as a kid and it completely blew me away, one of the many influences that had me obsessed with drawing as a kid.
I agree that the brooms aren't evil, they're magic that if left unchecked will infinitely continue working until the end of time since they're unnaturally brought to life with one purpose, to gather water.
Seriously, it just shows how Chernagbog needs to be used more in Disney property in my opinion.
Disney would never 😂
Edit: Scratch that, I didn't get to the part discussing his appearances in some materials.
@@aurea.Eh he got a cameo in once upon a studio
@@merfblaster Ah, good for him
Damn, these videos are not coming out fast enough! I NEED MORE!!!
(In actuality; don't rush them. Take your time to make them as good as they can get. I'm loving them so far!)
Fantasia is one of those movies I will never forget. Great music set to awesome visuals. Like many, the Sorcerers Apprentice is very memorable (and one of my favorites), but Night on Bald Mountain is so big and larger than life, I could hear the song in my head the whole video.
The bit about the influence of Christianity making Chern'bog evil, or revealing that his nature was actually evil....
Reminds me of how Samhain was deliberately conflated with the Catholic All Hallows Eve, which was orginally just the Eve before a Week Long Catholic holiday celebration of all the Hallowed saints both known and unknown. Kinda like Christmas Eve or New Year's Eve might be considered as the Eve before the Christmas/New Years holiday's, in today's culture.
As I understand it, the Celts were literally unknown figures to Scholar's, given that their entire culture essentially converted inside of a generation of encountering Christianity.
So unknown were they, that a certain Educated person of high status could claim that Samhain was a Fall celebration practice for the Celts, which Christianity somehow co-opted.... Without anyone who could be considered enough of an expert to gainsay his claims.
Supposedly, he was rather anti-Christian in general. And was reportedly searching for ways to discredit Christianity.
As for All Hallows Week/ All Hallows Eve/ Halloween/ all Saint's day(week)...
It was orginally a Spring day, given over to unknown Saints, when the papacy orginally instituted the holiday during the first millennium. Four Centuries later, it was a week long celebration that was so popular for pilgrims, that Rome had it moved to after the Fall Harvest, in order to Feed all the Pilgrims visiting Rome for the occasion.
I had a simplified version of the Tin Soldier and I always felt so sorry for the Soldier and Ballerina at the end.
would've loved to see a fantasia ride/see the spring sprite(favorite design in disney.:3) & firebird be in kingdom hearts.(actually remember hearing chernabog was originally going to be the origin of all darkness & the disney villains in the series which i would love to see be brought back/be changed to the firebird with the spring sprite being the source of all light.)
The Town from Bald Mountain looks like the town from Pinocchio. Coincidence? Nice video series by the way.
I would pay actual money for Disney to make a Chernabog animatronic in a ride! Make it the next Yeti but this timenonenthat works!
Bill Tythla also animated
1. Grumpy from Snow White
2. Stromboli from Pinocchio
3. Dumbo from Dumbo
and 4. the giant from the brave little tailor(Mickey mouse).
Chernabog will always be the favorite Disney Villian. A being of all consuming Darkness and Evil,a being that all evil flows through and the Master of all true villians in Disney lore.
Yay! I am so glad to see you continuing these villain retrospectives. They are very informative I so enjoy watching them. I look forward to the next update.
Collin, the Villains in Bambi are
1. Man
2. Man's dogs
3. Ronno, the deer and Bambi's rival.
i love these disney villains retrospectives! I watch them over and over again. thank you!
I'm a bit of a soccer for a more conventional happy ending as well. It's for this reason that I prefer the Disney version of the Little Mermaid over Hans Christian Anderson's original story. None of the bitter, only the sweet.
I agree.
This is why I find a lot of otherwise good video games to be strangely cruel to the love interest characters, like Megaman X4 and the Danganronpa series.
@@austinreed7343 I know what you mean.
@@benjaminfeld6388
Iris’s case comes off as especially cruel; her body was intact and yet it took over 2 decades to get a sign she might be returning to the series. And yet we see villains like Sigma get blown to smithereens and return (usually mindless now, and they never come back after their second defeat except for Sigma and Vile, but still). Not to mention what she goes through before this.
@@austinreed7343 While I personally like Sigma and thinking makes for an excellent villain that helps the series keep moving forward, I can definitely see your point about Iris.
She only had two games tops before Capcom decided to kill her off. I'm pretty sure one of them was meant to be a prologue.
She was also put in a very tough position. Being forced to choose between her brother and the man she loved.
Check, all situation with Replaforce could have been avoided if everyone had just sat down and talked with each other like civilized robots rather than jump to conclusions.
But instead everybody, and I mean everybody, got on their high horse and played right into Sigma's hands.
Sadly, that seems to be a problem we face all too frequently in the real world nowadays.
Chernabog great villain boss fight in Kingdom Hearts
I feel your justification of the Fire Bird here a could also be applied to Monstro as how he could be viewed as a villain, cause he seems to take pleasure out of the hunt. Not to mention the amount of effort he puts in when chasing after Pinocchio and his father in retaliation for escaping. Plus I doubt he only ever ate ships whole w/o some sort of malice to it, or even if he did so out of hunger, at times.
Yeah I see The Firebird as more of a force of nature.
These videos are so amazing
You ever notice that the Balrog from The Lord of the Rings looks like a fusion of Chernabog and the Firebird from both Fantasias? I did mention in the comments 2 years ago that the Firebird was very reminiscent of Tolkien's imagery of how the Balrog emerged from Khazad-dum because the Dwarves delved too greedily and too deep, but here's a funny little parallel between the two: The Balrog emerged in the year 1981 of the Third Age. What year did Mount St. Helens erupt, which inspired the design of the Firebird in Fantasia 2000? 1981.
Yeah, in Once Upon a Time, Chernabog would have been an amazing villain, but I think due to budget as you can see a lot of the show’s cgi is not great
I need to watch this whole movie. I only have seen the hippos and scorcer Mickey. Humm never know it was so deep.
21:45 The Fire Bird is not exactly evil, but according to slavic folklore it brings misfortune to anyone who catchs it, probably to represent the dangers of greed.
I'm a simple person; I see Fantasia 2000, I click play.
15:21 so this confirms the Tv villains will be included i wonder what he’ll say on Man Evil from Little Mermaid Tv show , the Leopard queen from Legend of Tarzan , Noodle Boy from Big Hero 6 the series , 627 from Lilo and Stitch the show , and Janja from the Lion Guard
I'm so hyped about TV villains now.
I wonder if he'll include TV villains who didn't spawn from film franchises, like those from Darkwing Duck or Gargoyles.
@@Alejandroigarabide i asked the same thing
@@elmasterdezoologia6641 Good point, even if most of the villains from Ducktales came from the comics. They're really underrated villains.
Too bad he totally skipped The Three Caballeros. The movie itself had no villain but its spinoff show Legend Of The Three Caballeros is awesome and has a lot of interesting episodic villains, not to mention two awesome big bads.
I absolutely love these videos, but I wanted to note that going forward you should absolutely mention the awesome Disney Villainous board game when applicable, since you mention video game and park appearances. You already missed Pete and Evil Queen, but there are 13 more upcoming villains represented in this amazing tabletop experience, and they are likely working on more expansions
I was looking forward to you talking about the Tyrannosaurus just for a moment
I'm glad that finally someone mentions the firebird from fantasia 2000, he's one of my favorite disney villains and in underrated one for sure
I’m happy to see Fantasia 2000 on this. I enjoy it more than the original (possibly cause I don’t like rite of spring). And I always have to explain to my friends on how there was a sequel. So I’m glad you didn’t forget about the film
I've heard early on Czernabog was supposed to be the main villain of Kingdom Hearts 1 instead of their Ansem OC. Would make sense - the heartless look like they could be Czernabog's minions and he's still a boss fight in the game, just with no real narrative reason for him to be there.
If they made a new Fantasia game I think it should be one based on The Rite of Spring segment with epic dinosaur boss battles
If they did that I’d hope they’d do bits inspired by all segments and you’ll get to play as some of the characters
I think I still have the VHS somewhere in my parents attic. I never felt fear for Chern.. I was impressed by his powers and actually loved to see the spirits being taken to his mountain. I dont remember much else of the movie honestly.
If only there was a way to have Chernabog as a Doom boss. That would awesome, plus the metal version of Night on Bald Mountain would be amazing.
Without Chernabogs visual design, we might not have Goliath and the Gargoyles.
The Firebird sequence was my favorite in Fantasia 2000, in part because natural disasters like volcanoes are among the various topics I like to study for fun. The Firebird itself is pretty much the Spirit of Destruction, a necessary evil that happens to revel in its chase of the Sprite. But like any violent volcano (looking at you, Vesuvius circa 79 AD), it has a short window in which to act since its source has to run out of steam eventually. Whether that takes days or months depends on the volcano.
Volcanoes are pretty much geographical contradictions. They destroy things indiscriminately but they're also creators and healers.
The thing I think I like most about Fantasia is that there's one sequence of animated swoops (for lack of a better term) which was DIRECTLY stolen from an experimental animator who animated piles of salt or sand or something on a plain black background, usually in silence. There's one piece of his that actually used music, but for the most part it was just experimental abstract animations. Then he moved onto color and experimenting with that. The point is, from an animation student perspective, it's impressive and respectable, but I freaking hated them. Especially the color ones where he just experimented with shapes growing and shrinking in eerie silence. I couldn't remember where this happens in the movie or what the name of the animator was, as it was years ago. I just like that Disney basically stuck it to the guy.
Tin soldier and Firebird have always been my favourite shorts 😁
Ah .. I"ve been doing some chores so I could have missed whether or not you mentioned/knew about Sidney GLass in Once Upon a Time. I was moving from room to room when you talked about the Evil Queen's Magic Mirror. So ... if you didn't mention Sidney Glass, yeah. The mirror is a full-fledged if sorely underused/eventually forgotten character. I would definitely recommend you check out the whole thing if you can. I love every single season (*White lie because I love so many episodes even in the two bad seasons*)
Xhernabog was also supposed to have a much longer segment in the OG world of color and there was a tower structure built that was supposed to be a 3d ish projection mapped chernabog.
So, you're going to include Aladdin villains from the whole saga including the show? Now I'm even more hyped than before.
BTW: since you mentioned "Legend of the Three Caballeros" when talking about Daisy's nieces in a previous video, would you consider Lord Felldrake for this villain retrospective? After all, "The Three Caballeros" movie doesn't have any kind of antagonist but the spin-off/reboot series not only has Felldrake, but is also a really underrated show that almost nobody knows about.
You forgot during the Fantasia part that Chernabog used one The main villains in the kingdom keepers book series
You're right, I guess I let that one fall through the cracks. The older Disney movies are the hardest to cover to an extent, because there have been so many things based on them as time has gone on.
Never thought I could end up in one of your videos! 😆 (10:39)
This is my favorite
It's funny how 2/3 of the video is dedicated to Chernabog and then the Fantasia 2000 villains get to share 8 minutes.
It's true, haha. I ended up not having as much to say about the other two as I thought I would.
The walking brooms sequence was the first time in my life that I was stressed while watching a cartoon. I was like 3 or 4
It's a shame Fantasia 2000 isn't remembered as much as the original imo because The Firebird suite introduced me to my favorite orchestra piece ever, and the shorts animation is incredible. imagery from it is burned into my mind.
Thanks for another great video. I was wondering if you are considering doing a retrospective on Jim Henson's The storyteller. It was recently added to Amazon prime if you need somewhere to stream it.
I have never heard of Chernabog until now
And I've seen Fantasia
Damn the Tin solider story was def heavy inspiration for the visuals in Daft Punks "Instant Crush" video.
18:50 It's like the ending of Robots.
I love all the live action remakes
Finally something for Disney villain fans like me. Disney villains rock
1:34-9:56-13:56/19:26 this could be useful... :)
(11:28 Also, in the Kingdom Keepers, Chernabog is one of the MAIN antagonists from the series, which he rules over Maleficent, The Evil Queen, Cruella de Vil and Tia Dalma as the ruler of the OverKeepers, check the stories, it's awesome.)
another thing i think of when i think of a night of bald mountain is the game the end is nigh that uses a remix of it for the hell area
Re, the live action remakes:
You're right. They're only good when they're actually trying something different. that's really their main problem: They're trying more to just be the original, as if it somehow is improved by merel ybeing live-action. When the only consistently good-decent things are the costumes and some of the choreography. (I mean, sure there's better dance numbers - but it's good choreography in that you can tell everyone's at least putting some effort into it.)
Night on Bald Mountain has at least one advantage in that the plot itself is super duper light, and they would largely be doing their own thing.
I loved Fantasia as I love the music and the animation for the nutcracker as it was my favorite music besides the score for Sleeping Beauty
Not surprised that 2000 version removed the battle of good vs evil.
Church bells and Our Lady's Ave Maria??
With the perverted climate now present at Disney Corporate??
My music teacher in elementary always showed us sorcerers apprentice and the jack in the box one
Cherabog is one of my favorite Funko Pops I own.
You forgot to mention that Night on Bald Mountain has a lot of influence from German Expressionism films like the 1920s silent film Haxan. That opening scene with the ghostly figures emerging and flying through the night sky is straight out copy of the witch flight in the Haxan film.
Here is a short clip of some of the highlighted scenes of that film. You can't tell me that the witch sabbath scene with the witches flying trough the night sky didn't have some effect or influence over Disneys' Fantasias' night on Bald Mountain.
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Disney is so awesome at connecting and getting inspiration from outside resources especially from older films.
in terms of archetypes, Chernabog is a tyrant king with elements of the vulgar and the witch, Jack-in-the-Box is a vulgar, the Firebird is a witch
"The Tyrant King: whiny control-freaks who abuse their position of power to exploit anyone that possesses something they want (and they usually want whatever they can’t have);"
"The Vulgar: shallow judgmental bullies who prey upon the weak out of boredom, greed, or momentary displeasure;"
"The Witch: childish imp who’s out to prove something to themselves about whether they have the ability/power to confront a challenge or redress an old wound that triggers their low self-esteem, and their destructiveness usually comes in the form of irrational vindictiveness or senseless collateral damage;"
Chernabog deserves to be called the Satan of the Disney Universe
We're going to have some fun when we get to the package films !
I'm looking forward to the Cinderella trilogy and Aladdin series.
I'm looking forward to mostly this 3:
-The whole Aladdin saga including the show.
-The same for Tarzan.
-Now that you mentioned package films, when he gets to "The Three Caballeros" I hope he talks about Lord Felldrake Shellgoose. The film itself doesn't have a villain, but the spinoff TV show has one and it's a freaking awesome one.
Collin, the villains in Dumbo are
1. the ringmaster
2. the mean female elephants
3. the fireman clowns
4. the pink elephants ( not really antagonistic though)
5. V.a. vanvere from the 2019 remake.
Lisa Nettles
Of these Vandermere is the only one not to reform. Not counting the Pink Elephants, who may not be sapient.
@@austinreed7343 well to a bit of a counterpoint on the subject of the pink elephants they're shown in house of mouse to where they've caused some mischievous havoc amongst the other Disney characters in the audience and the only character that got rid of them was Timothy mouse.
Frankie Beato
Alright then. They should be covered for sure.
The Pink Elephants on Parade, is one of my favorite parts in the movie.