We Need To Talk About The Monster High "Face Off" Episode...

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  • @michaelburns2003
    @michaelburns2003 4 місяці тому +1708

    Let’s be real……drag race NEEDS a “ dolls of herstory” themed episode where they are put into teams of 2/3 & each one has to pick a doll from a brand assigned to them & create either there own Original characters or a pre-existing doll & make it something new ( like sugar & spice did for Halloween but as a full on episode). Heck they could have TRIXIE MATTEL, a certified doll collector with a genuine #1 1959 blond swimsuit barbie…be a guest judge & put some opinions on the looks as the view point on a doll collector. Id totally love this type of episode

    • @KingOfGaymes
      @KingOfGaymes 4 місяці тому +67

      I’m surprised they haven’t done a doll themed episode or runway yet but they need to, it would be so cool! Plus RuPaul is getting a skullector doll soon and Trixie plays a character in the new series! Now would be the perfect time for it! ⚡️💕✨

    • @theofficialjakestanlol
      @theofficialjakestanlol 4 місяці тому +70

      Season 16 did a doll themed challenge where the queens had to make their own doll and a look corresponding it

    • @michaelburns2003
      @michaelburns2003 4 місяці тому +20

      @@theofficialjakestanlol really? Is that season 16 as in regular season? I haven’t kept up since season 12. That sounds really creative. I remember that in one of the earlier seasons they took integrity Rupal dolls & gave them makeovers but I’m surprised they haven’t done a fashion show runway theme based on dolls.

    • @user-yg1ik1qq4l
      @user-yg1ik1qq4l 4 місяці тому +24

      @@michaelburns2003yeah and the guest judge was Law Roach. I kinda wish they brought a doll designer, like Jessy Ayala of Integrity Toys. It would make total sense to do that since Rupaul has a doll by them. Missed opportunity nonetheless but ig having a celebrity fashion stylist is more favorable for a reality show.

    • @jesusm1040
      @jesusm1040 4 місяці тому +6

      @@michaelburns2003yes the episode was amazing!!

  • @themovienurd
    @themovienurd 4 місяці тому +1029

    I think this episode couldve been a lot more memorable for MH fans and Face off fans is if they had changed the challenge idea to "design your own teenage monster to attend monster high, winner gets their design turned into a doll" (im imagining LE collector doll, but that would have been really cool and these contestants wouldve been able to show off their character design skills a lot better too, which the best episodes of face off always showcases well) but alas, the only reason this episode got greenlit was because Mattel had no idea how to translate the character designs into live action for their upcoming movie and wanted inspiration, so that idea would never have happened.

    • @sincitty3323
      @sincitty3323 4 місяці тому +64

      It's interesting that even though Mattel wanted to use the contest to test out live action MH designs, the winning design chosen by fans looks nothing like live action Lagoona. I wonder if they did actually consider the designs. I mean, the live action Cleo does look like movie Cleo, but I think that's just a coincidence.

    • @JBabyLeather
      @JBabyLeather 4 місяці тому +4

      That would have been awesome

    • @TheAntiSanta
      @TheAntiSanta 4 місяці тому +12

      They stopped doing rewards like that well before this season. Always turned out to be a huge letdown or just never actually materialized.

    • @KittyChibiWaifu
      @KittyChibiWaifu 3 місяці тому

      Tbh, I'm surprised they didn't cause they had that going on as a trend for a few seasons. XD

    • @firemiracle
      @firemiracle 3 місяці тому +1

      That would’ve made the challenge way much better.

  • @carolinepring8566
    @carolinepring8566 4 місяці тому +505

    "Of course she's recognizable. Those fake teeth can be seen from space." alksfdjskadjfkljsdgkljgd

  • @dustiidreams
    @dustiidreams 4 місяці тому +658

    I dropped my tablet pen when I saw Venus those TEETH 😭😭

  • @b-trixangel198
    @b-trixangel198 4 місяці тому +699

    To be honest, these guys thinking not knowing how to do a character more feminine isnt something that would devalue them as an artist, like you need versatility in your portifolio, is okay to be more inclined to one type of makeup but only wanting to do montrosus makeup because is "more masculine" and not being open minded like the lagoona guys was their downfall

    • @GirtheAlienGoldfish
      @GirtheAlienGoldfish 4 місяці тому +70

      I've met a lot of male sfx makeup artists who struggle to do beauty makeup because it just wasn't what they signed up to do. They're monster people and they like to do monsters.
      And yes, you are right: knowing a bit about beauty makeup would absolutely go a long way.
      A makeup artist I worked with on the set of a music video I did had little idea about beauty makeup, but since we didn't have an actual beauty makeup artist, he stepped up.
      He did really well in the end, but he was pretty nervous. lol

    • @b-trixangel198
      @b-trixangel198 4 місяці тому +50

      @@GirtheAlienGoldfish im not saying they should know to make beauty makeup but know how to make a beautiful and feminine monster would be very good for them, to explore new ideia beyond their comfort zone of horror monster

    • @bella-blue13
      @bella-blue13 4 місяці тому +38

      Yeah, specifically when you go to a competition show, like you can’t really choose what you gonna do so knowing at least a little of beauty and “girly” makeup is really important

    • @yuppers4460
      @yuppers4460 3 місяці тому +5

      It’s crazy too because all they did was add that awful nose 😭

  • @morganqorishchi8181
    @morganqorishchi8181 4 місяці тому +288

    "He talks like he knows the abominable snowman personally" well, maybe he does. Let's not assume anything about his life.

    • @Favtsahik
      @Favtsahik 3 місяці тому

      Uhm... is this comment ironic?

  • @carolinepring8566
    @carolinepring8566 4 місяці тому +279

    Why did they send Abby out there looking like she HAD a prosthetic but it started melting off 💀💀💀

  • @target0069
    @target0069 4 місяці тому +420

    what's crazy about cleo is she looks pretty much 1 to 1 with the 2022 movie.

    • @Goleon
      @Goleon 4 місяці тому +46

      I was gonna say did they predict the future.

  • @themousoleum
    @themousoleum 4 місяці тому +207

    Face Off was one of my _favourite_ shows as a teenager!! I really think they did the cast dirty with this episode, they should’ve only chosen characters with fantasy skin tones or wild prosthetic concepts (Gooliope would’ve been fun to see) and also set expectations for how true to the doll they wanted the runway looks to be 😤

    • @cherry_top
      @cherry_top 3 місяці тому

      Gooliope would’ve been so cool! Also I wish they had Ghoulia

  • @Writing4MySoul
    @Writing4MySoul 4 місяці тому +138

    GIVE 👏🏻 US 👏🏻 SKELITA’S 👏🏻 PROSTHETIC 👏🏻 PROCESS 👏🏻

  • @rosequeen900
    @rosequeen900 4 місяці тому +135

    For me, I think they should have mentioned one of Abbey’s hobbies is making ice sculptures from a chainsaw and see the contestants reactions and then have their Abbey model pose with her ice saw and latest art project.
    That would be peek television.

  • @thencursethestars
    @thencursethestars 4 місяці тому +473

    Frankie was probably a copyright issue unfortunately. Can't say that with 100% certainty, but I know Universal's getting really uptight about their monster copyrights. This affected g3 Frankie A LOT.
    Overall love this episode!! What a cute idea!
    (edited for poor grammar LOL)

    • @DarlingDollz
      @DarlingDollz  4 місяці тому +189

      For some reason that didn't occur to me, but it's a good point! You're probably right.

    • @KingOfGaymes
      @KingOfGaymes 4 місяці тому +89

      It’s so sad because im pretty sure the g1 ghouls were officially connected to the universal monsters, so seeing Universal crack down on it is heartbreaking.. Plus G1 Frankie is iconic and it would’ve been so cool to see them use SFX to recreate her.. 💔
      And she’s my favorite ghoul 🥺

    • @j.j.ranvier8256
      @j.j.ranvier8256 4 місяці тому +12

      Yup came here to say that it was probably a copyright thing as well

    • @cthulhucult3230
      @cthulhucult3230 4 місяці тому +54

      It's insane to me that universal can copyright what color is used for a character, that's in the public domain. Frankie is Mattel's IP and they should be able to make her/them green.
      Sadly not the most ridiculous copyright battle involving a universal monsters character.

    • @whatalsaid
      @whatalsaid 4 місяці тому +68

      ACTUALLY, Universal only has a copyright claim if ALL of these traits are used.
      1. Protruding forehead
      2. Neck bolts
      3. Green skin
      4. Forehead scar
      5. Flat top head
      And since G1 Frankie only uses two of those five traits, she was never really in any danger of being copyright claimed. I think G3 Frankie being blue was more of a design choice, since blue compliments their whole vibe and power set more. Highly reccomend giving this article "How Universal Re-Copyrighted Frankenstein’s Monster" a read. Legal loopholes like these are how other studios got away with using a green wicked witch in their wizard of oz retellings, despite the OG witch being owned by MGM.

  • @art-eroflore
    @art-eroflore 4 місяці тому +137

    Lagoona is definitely the MVP, I don't think anyone can argue otherwise. I'm surprised Draculara got that high up, besides her outfit the rest of her vibes were... just okay.
    I think Abby and Venus's looks are like... such huge disappointments... First of all the whole "simian nose" thing, they went very Planet of the Apes (1960s original); it's such a boring move though, they could have decided to make her like Snow Leopard themed or Saber-tooth cat themed and it would have turned out way better. Venus's team worked way too hard on that handbag and I wish they had just like. Slapped a thick, viney prosthetic right on her face instead of her neck, maybe with some fake thorns and a flower by her temple. They were too afraid to put a cool plant prosthetic but somehow brave enough to do a hideous teeth one.

  • @VeeHoffman
    @VeeHoffman 4 місяці тому +282

    The lighting on the "Showcase" shots was a CHOICE. I'm gagged that someone thought the best way to light detailed facial prosthetics was... from
    above.
    God, the Drag Race challenges that could occur if copyright infringement weren't a concern...
    Thank you so much for sharing this, I had NO idea it existed.

    • @CutiePatootiest
      @CutiePatootiest 4 місяці тому +18

      The reason why they chose that type of lighting was specifically because if your prosthetics look good for film and they expect that you'll think of the unflattering lighting and "worst case" scenarios that would happen since the whole point is showcasing sfx artists
      I used to watch this show like A LOT

  • @kawaiibrutality
    @kawaiibrutality 4 місяці тому +106

    Cig and George had like STELLAR RUNS on their original season (they competed in the same season), but they didn't win, so you kinda knew they would be brought back in some way. They're already besties originally, so the team format wasn't exactly a problem, and they went to the finale together on all stars, to no one's surprise. Whereas for Logan and Adam who had kinda opposite energies, that didn't happen. I was actually surprised that the girl who had the most impressive skills with wigs (Emily) didn't go for some wig sculpture for Draculaura, it was kinda disappointing, but I'll give it a pass, since the final product was serviceable.
    If I'm not mistaken the costumes vary so much because the studio already has the clothes and fabrics laying around on the set, so the contestants have to match their concepts with what's available to them?? Having matching clothes with the dolls is a matter of luck mostly.

    • @katehucks774
      @katehucks774 4 місяці тому +20

      As far as I’m aware, for most of the challenges they get to request what kind of costume they want for their look, and a costume department will send them the closest thing they have that fits their model? I remember several episodes where contestants got costume pieces and props that weren’t… quite what they had asked for, and they just had to work with what the ended up with. But I wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t get a choice of outfit for this particular challenge, since they’re SO character-specific

  • @ffx2fan122
    @ffx2fan122 4 місяці тому +90

    Can you PLEASE do the episode of Project Runway where they design a My Scene outfit that was created into an actual doll outfit?! I really wish Mattel would do that idea more with design shows.

  • @MamaMidnight98
    @MamaMidnight98 3 місяці тому +12

    Cig Neutron uses they/them pronouns presently btw! They refer to their gender identity as "genderful"! Since FaceOff, Cig has done special fx for season three, episode one of Dragula called "The Lesser of Two Evils" AND the Boulet's bat prosthetics for their "Halfway to Halloween" special!

    • @Eli_JK
      @Eli_JK 3 місяці тому +3

      Oh hell yeah

  • @fusetunes
    @fusetunes 4 місяці тому +67

    fun fact: when i was younger my brother and i met a winner from face-off at a convention. he was the one who had done makeup for the hobbit movies and i was really into them then, so i told him i had really liked his work on them and everything. he gave me and my brother an autograph afterwards and my brother's was a picture from the hobbit and mine was a picture from face-off and i got really sad lol. i don't care now but it's still funny enough that i think about it whenever i'm reminded of the show

    • @sunniecolors
      @sunniecolors 3 місяці тому +2

      i totally get why you were upset though cuz not a lot of people recognize what faceoff is so if you try to show off his autograph, you would have to explain what face off is and THEN mention that he did work on the hobbit. If he had signed the hobbit picture instead, someone would look at it and immediately be like "omg you have an autograpgh from someone from the hobbit?!" and that would be the sole focus of the conversation without having to mention a random competition show haha

  • @bacon236
    @bacon236 4 місяці тому +55

    OMG! I'm the purple haired super fan. this unlocked a core memory! Love that my Voldemort comment lives on! i fist pumped the air when you mentioned it.
    we also didnt have alot to say about Draculaura cause none of us really liked her.

    • @ollieno971
      @ollieno971 4 місяці тому

      That’s so cool!!

  • @LiteBees
    @LiteBees 4 місяці тому +39

    One thing I missed in the later seasons of Face Off is a lot of the earlier ones HAD beauty make-up challenges and things like "disguise a family member as a different person" and later seasons seemed to just focus on monsters and fantasy, which, while nice, didn't show as big a range as the first few seasons did. I think the MH challenge could've gone a lot better overall if it had been done way earlier.

  • @darthcupcake2
    @darthcupcake2 4 місяці тому +14

    It was definitely a weird choice for them to use the characters with human skin tones. I especially spent every second Clawdeen's team was on screen going "please don't put her in blackface, oh god PLEASE don't put her in blackface." I guess they managed to avoid doing anything racially insensitive (probably?), but that's still kind of a weird extra layer of complications to give the contestants. (Though I guess Abbey kind of falls into the same category? I was definitely like. A MONKEY NOSE?? ARE YOU SURE?????????)

  • @MorningStarMoonChild
    @MorningStarMoonChild 4 місяці тому +38

    Hey there! I was one of the boo crew judges in this episode. It was an honor to be apart of this project. The behind the scenes things that we said that didn’t make the Final Cut could be a whole episode in of itself! 🖤

    • @belialbzarr
      @belialbzarr 4 місяці тому +2

      I'd love to hear more about this!! What major things didn't they include in the final episode?

    • @MorningStarMoonChild
      @MorningStarMoonChild 4 місяці тому +15

      @@belialbzarr hahaha okay. Some of which was a lot of the compliments I had for Lagoona, Abbey and Skelita. Truth be told, a lot was cut of all of our critiques for Clawdeen and Draculaura. Also, when they sent the contestants backstage so we could assess the monsters up close one of the makeup artists does the “I got my eyes on you” motion at one of the boo crew. She was doing that to me because her and I were both wearing the same skeleton heeled boots lol
      But that’s just some of the things I could remember off the top of my head. I’m sure there’s so much more

  • @_holy_frick_
    @_holy_frick_ 4 місяці тому +35

    This show was EVERYTHING to me growing up lol, and Cig actually does the rounds at horror conventions in my area and I've ended up on very friendly terms with him. He's judged and helped with a lot of my big cosplays in the past, he's a SUPER talented and a really cool dude to hang around. Vee Neil and a few other members of the show have done the rounds at some local cons, but I haven't spent as much time/talked to them that much.

  • @citrinedragonfly
    @citrinedragonfly 4 місяці тому +38

    I had never heard of this show or the MH episode before today, and wow. Lagoona's makeup/prosthetics deserve the win they received. Some of the others.... I think if Mattel had given more characters with places for creative prosthetics, like Toralei, Viperine, Jinafire, etc. it would have helped the teams much more. Instead, they went with safe, fan-favorite, core characters. Could you imagine getting a Wydowna look from this episode? Or Iris? There are so many directions they could have gone! In terms of lack of Frankie, my guess would be rights issues with Universal over the Frankenstein licensing. I wish we'd seen more of the Skelita - the final look was amazing. Thank you for sharing this bit of MH history with us!

  • @unnecessaryartwork2955
    @unnecessaryartwork2955 4 місяці тому +43

    This crossover was EVERYTHING to me as a kid, I adored both FaceOff and Monster High and it’s still baffling that this collaboration happened in the first place

    • @cassdun619
      @cassdun619 2 місяці тому

      I loved both but didn't know about this collaboration till now 😭 I didn't get to watch them when they came out, I had to watch reruns

  • @arkadiakane
    @arkadiakane 3 місяці тому +6

    Waittttt that Cleo actually looks identical to the one they designed for the live action movie😱 No doubt they had to have used this as reference

  • @sonyakinsey4376
    @sonyakinsey4376 4 місяці тому +33

    I miss this show so much. I learned so much about character design, how to and not do 3D design, and the criticism was almost always constructive. It was the perfect antidote to the sourness of InkMaster. I feel like after a break, this show could come back with some fresh ideas for challenges. If you're a young artist, I recommend watching and taking notes.

  • @Brianna-eo8nu
    @Brianna-eo8nu 4 місяці тому +50

    I discovered this show after seeing gifs of that episode where they design a Dark Crystal Skeksis puppet costume in collaboration with the Jim Henson Company. As someone super into Sci fi/fantasy creature design and who watched competition shows like Top Model and Great British Bake-off, I’m mad I didn’t get to grow up with this show.

  • @sighbatsu
    @sighbatsu 4 місяці тому +61

    Of all the things to enhance on Abbey, they enhanced the nose and made it look like that? When I think of Abbey from G1 I think of her cute overbite.
    Frankie not being included was certainly a choice. Anybody who got her would've had a blast with the prosthetics and makeup.
    That final showcase with the looks and the lighting did no favors for some of these looks, especially Venus.

  • @MsSumoon
    @MsSumoon 4 місяці тому +8

    I think Frankie wasn't included because they were afraid of Universal suing them.
    The other MH dolls do avoid copyright limits, but Frankie's design is way too much based off on Universals design that any makeup artist would end up having trouble.
    It's one of the reasons G3 Frankie doesn't have the bolts, and they changed their color from light mint green to light blue.
    For Cleo, if the challenge was to make them more monster like than cute, I would actually would have gone to the Universal look for inspiration, the crunchy look, it's not that hard to replicate but fun, same for Clawdeen.
    Venus, the team did lean on the monster aspect.
    Abbey would have looked better with they gave her the iconic teeth, had it would have balanced the monkey's nose they were insisting on keeping.
    Skelita looks fine.
    Draculaura is way too human, so I get the way they tried to include a prosthetic in there, but I would have gone with bat wings, or even a Bat like nose, or even more like Buffy's vampires, if the challenge was to make them more like monsters.

  • @yagirl1014
    @yagirl1014 4 місяці тому +4

    The way they give the people who have Clawdeen a white model and they paint her brown noooo😭😭

  • @kiricappuchin
    @kiricappuchin 4 місяці тому +29

    Good LORD Venus made me gasp...And not in the good way. I mean, I like the hair but she's got more gum than teeth 😭
    I think Lagoona was the only one I really liked. Her makeup is so cute

  • @Starlightclod
    @Starlightclod 4 місяці тому +20

    Fast forward to the live action movie where they just slapped on some fins for Lagoona with some colorful hair and called it a day💀

  • @lalaunascope
    @lalaunascope 4 місяці тому +7

    I had no idea this episode existed! Thank you for covering it! Us not seeing more of Skelita's process is a crime. She was definitely my favorite (Lagoona a close second) because they did such a fantastic job of making her look skeletal and I really loved the face makeup and overall design. Also, poor Abbey deserved better.

  • @Goleon
    @Goleon 4 місяці тому +21

    Omg what you said about cooking shows. The way most of the contestants in general were towards desserts in Top Chef was so baffling. Very few were actually prepared and it’s so weird cause like they’ll be serving desserts at their restaurants so they should know at least one or two of them. This is why I like Top Chef Masters a bit more. They were a bit daunted by desserts but they weren’t as afraid as the Top Chef contestants and were willing to jump in to make something.

  • @writeon2593
    @writeon2593 4 місяці тому +12

    One thing that I dislike about the Cleo design is that her Eye of Ra detail is not pronounced at all. I originally thought that they forgot it, but no. The lines are faintly there, but they immediately get lost in the shadow cast by her bangs. If they pushed that detail more, maybe she would have gotten some more appreciation.

  • @trashotaku
    @trashotaku 4 місяці тому +7

    As a fan of both Face Off and Monster High, when that episode first came out, I remember losing my GD MIND. I really liked how they had actual Monster High fans judge the creations instead of just the regular judges

  • @gameoftomes14
    @gameoftomes14 4 місяці тому +12

    I loved Face Off. Every season would have some challenge that involved beauty makeup, and some of it was so bad. Like, you can perfectly paint and shade full body makeup but eyeshadow blending escapes you? I would love to see Trixie and Katya react to Face Off though.

  • @MimiJaneBee
    @MimiJaneBee 4 місяці тому +35

    I didn't even know this was a thing. THIS is why I love this channel so much. I almost always learn something. It's like special interest catnip ❤

  • @bdluejay
    @bdluejay 4 місяці тому +11

    AHHHH okay so as someone who is a fan of monster high and and HUGE nerd about sfx and costume makeup (and also cosplay) this is such a a letdown of an episode. I had never heard of this episode before and I cannot believe some of the choices made. I have seen so many incredible interpretations of the ghouls in art and makeup, and its so sad to see how minimal some of these were. there are so many ways to bring out the monster features while still maintaining the glam and cute. the lagoona is so exceptional, they really knocked it out of the park. they maintained her cute so well! she was still a fish monster but she was still bubbly and friendly! and I can't believe that's the first time that guy styled a wig, that is absolutely insane, wigwork is HARD

  • @jenneyblade
    @jenneyblade 4 місяці тому +16

    I loved watching Face Off on syfy ch. I remember being super excited for this episode. Then i was super disappointed. The artist are talented, but i felt they were in over their heads on that challenge and setup to fail. I was glad they had super fans judging but you could tell they too didnt want to be mean under the circumstances these contestants were put under. I did not like any of the looks, but some did a great job and i applauded the effort and creativity. At that time, I hoped their would not be a live action movie. Fast forward to today, that show helped me really appreciate todays live action characters and interpretation. So something good came outta that. Lol.

  • @novembercrust
    @novembercrust 4 місяці тому +13

    Alright now you gotta do the MyScene episode of Project Runway (though if I recall they NEVER mention the dolls they are promoting are MyScene, just 'Barbie', lol)
    Edit: Rewatched, I'm wrong, they introduce the MyScene line at the start, but then they only give them the Blondes to pick from (one is Delancey) and all the contestants call them all Barbie. There's also the awful blonde wigs on all the models nonsense

    • @em84c
      @em84c 4 місяці тому

      Was that when My Scene first started and Kennedy was named Barbie?

    • @novembercrust
      @novembercrust 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@em84c Yes, I think so! It's from season 2 in 2005, plus I think Kennedy was more of an outside the US marketing thing (especially since they stopped selling them in the US in general). She was always Barbie for me. The winning look was turned into a doll, she's pretty cute.

  • @Sugar_Soda
    @Sugar_Soda 4 місяці тому +12

    I loved Face Off and loved a lot of designs. I assume it was pretty popular since it lasted so many seasons. Even so, this episode did some characters so dirty.

  • @2doot
    @2doot 4 місяці тому +2

    I think the funniest part about this is that Cleo's look here isn't too awfully far off from the actual live action lmfao. There really isn't a lot you can do with her 💀 I wish they could have made her more corpse -ish because I've seen some really cool Cleo redesigns but I understand why Mattel wouldn't want to do that.

  • @arielzahradka214
    @arielzahradka214 3 місяці тому +2

    Has anyone actually noticed, not including the prosthetics and definitely changing the wig, Cleo’s design is actually very close to what Monster High did do for the live action action? Both are super similar.

  • @Aaronmn77
    @Aaronmn77 4 місяці тому +6

    I used to love this show but for some reason had totally forgotten it existed! This was a fun recap.
    Also, the super fan in the red jacket was really cute.

  • @SpookyDeerArt
    @SpookyDeerArt 4 місяці тому +6

    i was really into face off back at the start of high school- pretty sure i got my name inspiration from either it or another similar syfy series? anyway, i had NO IDEA there was a monster high episode! i wish they had used monster high in a different way like others in the comments have suggested- designing their own original monster high character or something would have been super cool. as soon as you said they were doing a face prosthetic for cleo i KNEW it was going to be... something, certainly. so glad they ended up scrapping it. honestly i think there must be some sort of requirement to make latex prosthetics for every challenge, or at least for the majority, because even though the prosthetic bandages are impressive, i can only imagine how cool it would have looked if they could have just used fabric and shaded/painted it to look perfect. plus, the random as hell bat prosthetics on draculaura's collarbones, while cool, are out of left field. i can imagine a show like this (is face off still making new episodes?) doing this today and it being absolutely amazing. and they would get to do frankie since their skin isn't green and they don't have neck bolts in g3! i've seen some seriously creative make-up looks inspired and themed around monster high in the last few years, kind of want to see a professional competition go at it again- someone else in the comments mentioned drag race and that would be absolutely amazing- if they could get mattel on board. mattel has worked with trixie before i'm pretty sure, so they aren't completely against working with drag queens publically- especially since ru paul is getting a monster high doll in g3 sometime this year, i've heard. i can dream about the collab, at least.

    • @tamagothchic
      @tamagothchic 3 місяці тому

      Sadly it ended in 2018, largely due to ratings and money it seems

  • @RCZeta919
    @RCZeta919 4 місяці тому +7

    Ahhh, I haven't thought about Face Off in years!! I loved that show. I don't think I saw this season though-- what a great recap. This has absolutely everything I loved about the show: wild choices in character design, last-minute disaster, some really awesome looks! I'm going to have to go find where to watch it again now 😂

  • @acexsketches
    @acexsketches 4 місяці тому +15

    Haha, my family and I love face off and and I loved monster high! So this episode was neat to see. Not the best portrayals but yeah

  • @tamagothchic
    @tamagothchic 3 місяці тому +2

    I've been saying it for years. Every single artist doesn't need to have every single skill, but it's annoying how many faceoff contestants make it to the semifinale or finale on horror alone - not a single old age, beauty, femenine or otherwise pretty character. The fact that so many artists (especially men) work in professional level makeup and prosthetics but can't do basic casual run of the mill makeup or contour just defies logic. Fantasy and sci fi have much broader range than horror, but a ton of artists on the show later on were able to entirely avoid ever having to do any form of beautiful or femenine makeup, often times using excuses to make prompts into monsters, demons or succubi without actually engaging with the source material or audience associated with the prompt. It isn't unique to makeup, but it's not uncommon for beginner artists to use horror or gore as a crutch. In particular, I remember being disappointed that they did a candyland episode and almost everyone did horrific, bloody makeup, no mention of the board game, it's characters or care for a potentially young child aged audience. I watched over ten seasons of the show, and while the base skill levels have skyrocketed, sometimes it feels like the creativity and broader skillset is lacking.

  • @cameronroleplays876
    @cameronroleplays876 4 місяці тому +9

    cammy + monster high + face off?? three of my absolute favorite things!!
    oh also you might like to know that i believe cig identifies as nonbinary now! their instagram bio describes them as "genderfull" so that makes it even better to me to know a queer creator won the challenge :3

  • @angiem6674
    @angiem6674 3 місяці тому +1

    For the costuming they mention in one of the older seasons that they draw up the costume design and send it to costuming to make so they don’t see it til the very last day

  • @libdottie
    @libdottie 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for making this video!! 💜💕❣️

  • @agcc.1998
    @agcc.1998 4 місяці тому +4

    FINALLY someone talks about this episode, it was one of my faves as a child 😭😭 i love your videos!!

  • @PinkPlatinumx
    @PinkPlatinumx 4 місяці тому +3

    I watched this show all the damn time! I feel seen and heard LOL, but this is such an awesome episode and I am glad to walk down memory lane with you.

  • @kelleninalink
    @kelleninalink Місяць тому

    This was a great episode, you tell stories really well and enjoyed it, your humour and also your understanding of this topic of monster high and makeup and costumes - really top notch

  • @blueyblue5831
    @blueyblue5831 2 місяці тому +1

    Face off was one of my favorite shows to watch when i was younger! I actually vaguely remember this episode and its so cool you covered this! I would love if you covered more random shows bringing up dolls or having dolls as a theme :D you did such a good job on this video as you usually do :)

  • @elise2920
    @elise2920 4 місяці тому +1

    i literally squealed when i saw this in my timeline haha!! so excited for this video!!! 🥰👏👏

  • @zoeybea6984
    @zoeybea6984 4 місяці тому +3

    Oh man I forgot about this episode and being excited about it as a monster high kid. That was one of my favorite seasons of the show my mom, sister and I used to watch it when we were growing up.

  • @FrankiKaye
    @FrankiKaye 4 місяці тому +7

    I used to love face off! Thanks for talking about it 😊

  • @talaofthevalley
    @talaofthevalley 4 місяці тому +2

    This was a fun video! And 100% agree they should have gone for only characters with fantasy skintones. I'd be so down for more of these if you feel like doing them, I know Project Runway has an episode centered on My Scene and another on Shopkins.

  • @mylazakia
    @mylazakia 4 місяці тому +2

    Great video idea, I saw this episode when it first premiered! You should cover the Project Runway American Girl Doll Beforever collab next

  • @trevihulla
    @trevihulla 4 місяці тому +11

    another cammy video, another win for the day

  • @screamingbanshee1282
    @screamingbanshee1282 4 місяці тому +2

    I loved this show, it was so interesting to see different people interpretation of different theme

  • @princesscherry5217
    @princesscherry5217 4 місяці тому +2

    love all your videos but unserious ones like this tend to be some of my favorites. 💖
    eta: and i absolutely LOVE the pure doll knowledge (dolledge? 🧐) you bring to any topic. like which gen the dolls used in this episode were from. 😗👌

  • @nicolevarnam2290
    @nicolevarnam2290 Місяць тому

    Just followed you on Twitter. I found your channel this year and decided to give Twitter another go. Love your videos 🤘💙😘

  • @Space_Guy46
    @Space_Guy46 4 місяці тому +3

    Skelita should've won tbh. She looks just like the character AND the prosthetics for very impressive

  • @andyz6306
    @andyz6306 4 місяці тому +1

    This unearthed dormant memories in my head of actually watching this with my cousin back when it was new. So weird.

  • @RedRyotz
    @RedRyotz 3 місяці тому

    As an avid enjoyer of both shows in my youth, how did I not know about this!?!? Thank you for this video!

  • @sincitty3323
    @sincitty3323 4 місяці тому +6

    If I had the choice to change out one of the dolls it would have been Cleo. Don't get me wrong, as a character I love her, but as a kid I always thought her dolls were a little boring. I do think you can make cool Mummy-themed effects make up and prosthetics, but Cleo doesn't really look like a classic horror Mummy, Obviously because she's a fashion doll. I think if her team did try leaning towards a more horror-creature look, they could have been more successful, the judges also might've disliked it, though.
    There's 4 characters that I would go with instead of Cleo: Toralei, Operetta, Rochelle, and Nefera.
    I won't go into details so, to be quick,
    *Toralei literally just because she's a Werecat.
    *Operetta because I would've loved to see them try to replicate her mask and scars.
    *Rochelle because I think you can do a lot with Gargoyles.
    *Nefera because honestly even if I loathed her personality and gagged that time Cleo said she was a "Great big sister" 😡, I just really love her design.

  • @AriellaSurfgirl
    @AriellaSurfgirl 4 місяці тому

    I’m glad you did this and yes I saw it.

  • @Chowderchef
    @Chowderchef 4 місяці тому +3

    AHHHH I remember when this aired on tv!!!!! Some of my friends watched it with me and said I shouldve been part of that audience of fans that judged the looks

  • @katiwang
    @katiwang 4 місяці тому +2

    My daughter and I used to religiously watch this show. This was such a FUN video. Great idea!🎉❤

  • @julias.7534
    @julias.7534 4 місяці тому +5

    Honestly, if you wanted to just recap Face Off episodes for the rest of your time on UA-cam, I'd watch that forever.
    I remember not being very impressed by this episode, for some reason -- I think it was the lack of Frankie. She's LITERALLY the main character but Skelita is here? Not that I'm mad that Skelita is here, but I'm more or less confused as to why.

  • @burkezurk3108
    @burkezurk3108 4 місяці тому

    My brother and I used to love this show!!!! We stopped watching before this season, so I’m excited to see something new

  • @shaneinspace
    @shaneinspace 4 місяці тому +2

    You just unlocked a memory for me! I used to love this show and remember watching before i was a mh fan too. That abbey nose HAUNTS ME

  • @cornerspider2477
    @cornerspider2477 4 місяці тому +1

    I always think about this episode of Face Off, I watched it religiously when it was airing, so when the Monster High episode came out I SCREAMED
    Edit- I would NOT want my monster high designs critiqued by superfans, that's actually so terrifying I forgot about that part

  • @em84c
    @em84c 4 місяці тому +3

    G3 Lagoona would be a great doll for a show like this..The pink skin and foreheads scales.
    And Robecca would be awesome.
    You are the best dolltuber! You have such interesting topics. I get so excited when I see there's a new video.

  • @Yoonvalentine
    @Yoonvalentine 4 місяці тому

    I REMEMBER THIS OMG i saw this in tw when i was a kid!! i LOVED it so so much

  • @ImStupidInTheLove
    @ImStupidInTheLove 4 місяці тому +1

    I was such a big fan of Face Off back in the day my mom and I would watch it all the time but i'd completyely forgotten this episode until sig was on screen lol

  • @doubledip3328
    @doubledip3328 4 місяці тому +5

    OMG THIS IS CRAZY IM WATCHING FACE OFF RIGHT NOW!!!

    • @doubledip3328
      @doubledip3328 4 місяці тому +1

      I even watched this episode a few days ago lol

  • @BrielleHobbit
    @BrielleHobbit 4 місяці тому +1

    i love Face-Off because it is one of the few reality/competition shows where it is generally wholesome! not a lot shit talking, sabotage, interpersonal drama! And it is so often that other competitors help each other out with no benefit to themselves

  • @angiem6674
    @angiem6674 3 місяці тому +1

    10:27 season 5 when Eddie does the Mother Nature challenge and leaves her face completely bare always kills me cause why did he think that was a good idea

  • @saintvenus169
    @saintvenus169 4 місяці тому +1

    Cleo looks just like like how she does in the movie and the draculaura reminds of her skullector doll lol

  • @four_girls_in_search_of_awesom
    @four_girls_in_search_of_awesom 4 місяці тому +2

    Lagoona’s is the most freaky fabulous. I love when MH leans into more monstrous features because it’s supposed to be about loving your looks, unconventional or otherwise.

  • @mmgleek4life
    @mmgleek4life 3 місяці тому

    I wasnt expecting my favorite show of all time to be mentioned in a youtube video... let alone to come across it without searching 🥺
    I remember this episode being my first real introduction to monster high... so i'll always enjoy it (despite the bad looks since yknow, every episode has bad ones) because i adore the dolls now 🥺❤

  • @stardrop3777
    @stardrop3777 4 місяці тому +2

    Man, i loved Face-Off and we watched it with my family when it was on

  • @casperwashere
    @casperwashere 4 місяці тому

    me and my mom used to watch this show all the time!! i definitely remember that this episode existed and that we watched it but i barely remember anything about it lmao

  • @LauraBow
    @LauraBow 4 місяці тому +1

    Aw I remember this show!

  • @Rilesjean
    @Rilesjean 4 місяці тому

    i remember catching earlier seasons of face off at some point, i def never saw this though. i've thought about revisiting the show at some point

  • @thegayghost872
    @thegayghost872 4 місяці тому +1

    I loved this show! I was so excited for the monster high episode

  • @MamaMidnight98
    @MamaMidnight98 3 місяці тому +1

    I remember being SO excited with that episode's prompt when it aired but some of the results were... a choice. I remember rambling about the innacuracy of some of the characters to my dad (we watched the show together) and him just shrugging.

  • @SodaPoPSauce
    @SodaPoPSauce 3 місяці тому

    We actually watched this in my highschool Tech Theater class- two episodes of face off, this one and the fantasy one with those freaky wood chucks.

  • @PhoenyxV
    @PhoenyxV 4 місяці тому

    Wow this video unlocked a memory from this show. There was an episode I watched that was the "family visit" episode, but the contestants had to make themselves up to look like someone else and were judged based on if their family member recognized them or not. The one contestant absolutely failed at it (like, she was skating by as it was and put almost no effort into changing her appearance) and her brother blatantly lied and was like "I had no idea it was her!" and the judges were just like "sure, jan" and I think sent her home.

  • @PaOHla
    @PaOHla 4 місяці тому +1

    I remember watching this episode when it came out and me being cynical since birth thought it was FaceOff “selling out” to Mattel 😂 because the original judges weren’t there, no one was being eliminated and well, the whole Mattel involvement. As an adult, looking back, I’m not angry about it anymore, especially knowing all I know about fashion dolls and respecting the craft behind them (thanks to this channel).

  • @DefyReality-ll2cg
    @DefyReality-ll2cg 4 місяці тому

    I loved Face Off, It was such a cool show. I completely forgot this collab with MH happened but the memories are starting to come back now.

  • @hotwaterisspicy
    @hotwaterisspicy 3 місяці тому

    I remember watching this episode when it aired and I was so excited aaaaaaannnnd...yeah. I adored this show, so having two things I loved meet up was so cool, but it was just...I mean...Chewlian....omg Chewlian... I want a purse of that Skelita purse. Her shoes and purse from that doll (G1 I heart accessories) are some of my faaaaavorites, ugh i love them! It was such a strange prize to give, like-why? They could have done something spooky but MH merch? Like, I would have liked that, all of us here would have liked that (although it was G2....) but professional monster makeup artists? whyyy

  • @linphillips8331
    @linphillips8331 4 місяці тому +2

    I don't collect Monster High, am not especially interested in the characters or the lore, and have not heard of this competition show, but yet you made it engaging!

  • @QueenieOkay
    @QueenieOkay 3 місяці тому

    I wonder if they did a mix of g1 and g2 because of the textured and 3d raised skin they used on the dolls(Cleo’s wraps, clawdeen’s fur) so maybe that was slightly the challenge was too create these 3D-mummy wraps or fur pieces?
    Idk, 🤷🏼 😂

  • @windupbirdcanticles
    @windupbirdcanticles 4 місяці тому +1

    I remember watching this when it came out, flipped, on a pirate site, because Syfy never makes their stuff easy ro find on streaming. I also remember not really liking Cig and George's attitudes and disliking that they won, but you do put it in better perspective. They tried and did a good job, though their comments about now having to go have beers afterward were super annoying at the time.