They def rushed it. No way assembling the coaster in winter didn’t fuck it up at least a little bit. We’ll see if vertical velocity at great adventure has the same problem since it’s being assembled in the spring
That layout looks awesome! Really quick pace for a modern B&M! The lack of a mid course brake run seems like a huge improvement with this layout over some of the other B&M dive coasters. But that does look to shuffle quite a bit for a B&M, especially that little bit before the brake run. I wonder if that's just a consequence of the extra wide trains on the smaller B&M track or if there's something different with the track construction quality.
Comfort collar dive coasters have a reputation for being forceless but this ride doesnt look that way at all to me. You can see the riders floating in their seats quite a lot in this video, the first drop especially looked surprisingly powerful. Might not have the sheer power and force of old school B&M loopers but it looks very fun in its own right
Wow, a humble theme park recognizing "The peoples" media personalities, the UA-cam Thoosies, and inviting them to an opening event. I appreciate that wholeheartedly ❤
Just when you think Cedar Fair couldn't go for another record-breaking coaster, they go and break the record for "Roughest B&M" Jokes aside, I obviously haven't ridden it, but what happened here? I haven't seen a new B&M look this rough in a POV, maybe ever.
Hopefully the smoothness improves, from this pov it looks shaky but still good as I don’t mind rattles and they don’t bother me at all. Unless It’s thunderbolt at Luna park. But that ride is by far too far gone for saving. I am looking forward to riding this on may 10th! Seems to be very good asides from the possible comfort issues but doesn’t look bad.
I’m just getting back into coasters, and I always wonder why companies insist on using OTSR, when they are not needed anymore.. the technology is there to not have them.
Ehhh. I'm a passholder and Dorney is a home park for me. I went this past weekend and it was actually busy. Iron menace had a 30 min waite but it lighted up to 10 as the day went on
@MattGames7734 Must be that, 7 seater rows probably don't help either, but that pot hole is definitely just track related. Nemesis Reborn is glass smooth (besides the trains rattling like crazy) so curious what exactly is different here
@@lancehutch i’m just shocked that at this long in the game, b&m hasn’t figured out glass smooth like intiman (sometimes) and RMC has, especially in a fraction of the time for RMC
@@MattGames7734 B&M have almost gone backwards, they pretty much always used to make perfectly smooth coasters until their most recent builds over the past few years which have been noticeably lower in quality
….why is it so rough! I understand that it could bed in and get slightly better, but also there is no way a new B&M should be that rough. I know Nemesis Reborn has had rattling issues, but I went on it the other day and it was glossy smooth. Strange.
Not really digging these "short yet sweet" rides trend that has been occuring these past years 🙄 start dropping banger coasters again like it's the early 2000's! 🔥🔥
This ride sure looks cool but I actually don’t know, I couldn’t see it cuz I was too focused on Uncle Nate’s shades 😎 they’re probably even cooler than the ride tbh
For everyone talking out the rattle, B&M dives have 3 row atadium seating, which means the third row has a center of gravity about 3 feet higher than the front. It's a pretty flawed design because it makes the back row rough. Ive noticed this on Valravn, Shiekra, and Griffon. All are ice smooth in the front and super rough in the back.
Is there a break-in period for these dive coasters. My home dive coaster Sheikra is very smooth. It's the oldest dive in America and appears to ride smoother.
Glad you got to ride it Ryan, but Holy Schitzars it looked like it had a hyper rattle and that jolt at the end looked horrible. I like the mini layout, but it looks like this is going to be a "problematic" episode some day.
candymonium and iron menace are made from the same manufacturer. iron menace does not have the same smoothness as candymonium. i am going to kill myself.
Hopefully doesn’t become rough like Valravn and Yukon Striker after a year. Idk why these new B&M vest trains stuck around. Griffon and Sheikra are smoother at 15+ years old than these couple year old dive machines.
Man, that layout looked very good but this is Gerslauer level of smoothness for probably quadruple the cost! Manufacturers like B&M and Mack Rides really don't seem to care. Just makes me appreciate modern Vekomas and Intamins even more!
Why on Earth does this look so shaky at the top of the Immelman, exiting the inclined loop, entering the corkscrew, and have an especially strong jolt before the brakes? I've never seen so much jankiness on a BRAND NEW B&M. 😢
Cliffhanger is not rough anymore the park added some more suspensions a few weeks ago and they themed it more and they programmed the mid course to not slow people down so much causing the airtime hill to be forceful and the valley after the drop I think is more intense that iron menaces and the helix is more forceful but the loop is pretty forceful on iron menace but I think cliffhanger is better
@@Tswiftandkanye if cliffhanger wasnt forceless and boring then yea maybe it could compete with iron menace. but unfortunately is the worst dive in north america
This looks awesome. I wonder if it's a requirement from B&M to have the first element after the drop be an Immelmann. B&M makes excellent rides, but it seems they like to be repetitive on their dive coasters. Are they not comfortable with say, a dive loop, or a vertical loop coming after the first drop? Still, this Immelmann looks incredibly floaty!
![The Beast Front-Seat POV at sunset. (4K-30FPS) [Kings Island, Mason, Ohio.]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/zkgV-p9_f9g/mqdefault.jpg)
The little jolt at the end hope that doesn't become an issue for dorney
There are many jolts😬
Give it a year or two and it will be unbearable
Scrap it
Coaster enthusiasts when their car runs over a pebble: 😭😭😭😭😠😠😡😡😡😡😡
@@mikeyg9958 lol ain't that the truth
Even though the ride has a shorter ride time than the amount of time my grandpa has left, eltoro ryan makes it entertaining
Ryan gets me so hard
Underrated comment holy shit I laughed so hard
Grandpa just catching strays for no reason 😂
@@MidcourseDiscourse yummy
BRUH LOL
the pothole on the last turn will become an issue as it ages i imagine…suspicious to see that before opening day
TT2 has one in the exact same place lol - check the POV. Shouldn't be there on either coaster.
@joelbolton7252 yeah I noticed that one too
They def rushed it. No way assembling the coaster in winter didn’t fuck it up at least a little bit. We’ll see if vertical velocity at great adventure has the same problem since it’s being assembled in the spring
Ya will see what happens...this is rather unfortunate...and so not like b and m....hmmmm
0:59 Jesus 😂😂
i mean yes?????? wtf b&m just did over there? lol
Yeah wtf was that jolt
Just wait until TT2. Did you see the 2 jolts before the brake run on the video with Tony Clark and the other dude? Lol
@ im looking an answer for that
It was a pleasure meeting you Ryan I was sitting to your right 🤣 rock on dude hope you had fun today!
You need to do a problematic coaster video on steel curtain. Love those videos!!!
That layout looks awesome! Really quick pace for a modern B&M! The lack of a mid course brake run seems like a huge improvement with this layout over some of the other B&M dive coasters.
But that does look to shuffle quite a bit for a B&M, especially that little bit before the brake run. I wonder if that's just a consequence of the extra wide trains on the smaller B&M track or if there's something different with the track construction quality.
Looks like it rattled your teeth out in the pull out of the drop.
Comfort collar dive coasters have a reputation for being forceless but this ride doesnt look that way at all to me. You can see the riders floating in their seats quite a lot in this video, the first drop especially looked surprisingly powerful. Might not have the sheer power and force of old school B&M loopers but it looks very fun in its own right
Ive always greyed out on every dive coaster, vest or no vest. I dont think they have a reputation for being forceless, just slow paced and mild.
Wow, a humble theme park recognizing "The peoples" media personalities, the UA-cam Thoosies, and inviting them to an opening event.
I appreciate that wholeheartedly ❤
looks crisp as hell.
It’s awesome that they allowed you to do this! Assume it’s not open yet. Very cool. Wish they would allow this kind of stuff in the U.K.
Man. Looks smooth. Age caught up with me and I can’t ride anymore.
look at ryan just smiling thats wholesome :D
Just when you think Cedar Fair couldn't go for another record-breaking coaster, they go and break the record for "Roughest B&M"
Jokes aside, I obviously haven't ridden it, but what happened here? I haven't seen a new B&M look this rough in a POV, maybe ever.
glossy smooth as Myke would say
Banshee was stupid rough when it opened
@@ilikerollercoasters4757 another Cedar Fair park?
B&m has been rough recently. Nemesis reborn was very rattley. Ive heard pipleline was rough and this has a full on jolt💀
@Yonel6969 I saw that too and made a comment, and I will never do that again 🤣. I might have upset an entire country with that one.
Its the “Talon at Dorney Park” lady lol
I hope to ride Talon at Dorney Park soon. Talon at Dorney Park looks pretty good.
Hopefully the smoothness improves, from this pov it looks shaky but still good as I don’t mind rattles and they don’t bother me at all. Unless It’s thunderbolt at Luna park. But that ride is by far too far gone for saving. I am looking forward to riding this on may 10th! Seems to be very good asides from the possible comfort issues but doesn’t look bad.
What is going on with the roughness of B&M coasters lately? It seems like all of them are super jolty or rattly as soon as they are opened.
I'm here for it haha. Don't like being put to sleep
I’m just getting back into coasters, and I always wonder why companies insist on using OTSR, when they are not needed anymore.. the technology is there to not have them.
Nice jolt
Going this summer! Can't wait to ride it along with Steel Force!
I wouldn’t wait more than 20 min for that.
Well luckily it's Dorney so there will never be more than a 10 minute wait lol
@@thomasxl200 😂
Ehhh. I'm a passholder and Dorney is a home park for me. I went this past weekend and it was actually busy. Iron menace had a 30 min waite but it lighted up to 10 as the day went on
Looks like it has great pacing
Also what is with that pothole bro
You know Dorney has bad ops when Ryan runs out of things to say about the coaster before his train is in the station
Talon girl on the right, Flight of Fear girl on the left
Who are they?
By his half hearted “woo…” on the first drop you’d think this guy was on a kiddie coaster.
I hope this succeeds so well we get the rumored gravity group woodie we was supposed to get but covid stopped it. dorney is on the rise!
Brrrrroohhhhhh!!!!!
III AAAMMM IRON MENNNACE!!!
Brrrroohhhhh!!!!
First thing I instantly notice is that it's rough, esspiecally that jolt just as you turn into the brakes 0:58. Very odd and honestly poor from B&M...
same thing as dr. diabolical i imagine, they are using the smaller gauge of track, still haven’t worked it out yet i guess.
@MattGames7734 Must be that, 7 seater rows probably don't help either, but that pot hole is definitely just track related. Nemesis Reborn is glass smooth (besides the trains rattling like crazy) so curious what exactly is different here
@@lancehutch i’m just shocked that at this long in the game, b&m hasn’t figured out glass smooth like intiman (sometimes) and RMC has, especially in a fraction of the time for RMC
@@MattGames7734 B&M have almost gone backwards, they pretty much always used to make perfectly smooth coasters until their most recent builds over the past few years which have been noticeably lower in quality
@@EmeraldIV i wonder how penguin trek will fare, uses the smaller gauge track aswell
Looks to be "Firebird S M🔥🐦T H"
GLOSSY smooth
….why is it so rough! I understand that it could bed in and get slightly better, but also there is no way a new B&M should be that rough. I know Nemesis Reborn has had rattling issues, but I went on it the other day and it was glossy smooth. Strange.
Looks solid. Nice move for the park
Not really digging these "short yet sweet" rides trend that has been occuring these past years 🙄 start dropping banger coasters again like it's the early 2000's! 🔥🔥
That drop is so small. Still doesn’t top Yukon Stryker. KING OF THE DIVE
Cool, El Toro Ryan!!
I like the new hair cut keep up the good work.
What’s with this B&M shakiness as of late?
This ride sure looks cool but I actually don’t know, I couldn’t see it cuz I was too focused on Uncle Nate’s shades 😎 they’re probably even cooler than the ride tbh
Nice can’t wait to check it out
Uncle Nate looks like Austin Wolf
Sick invite bro
1:00 Inspired by the Zero-G-Roll on Rollin' Thunder at OWA
God not another B&M dive
Wow made it out opening day ❤
For everyone talking out the rattle, B&M dives have 3 row atadium seating, which means the third row has a center of gravity about 3 feet higher than the front. It's a pretty flawed design because it makes the back row rough. Ive noticed this on Valravn, Shiekra, and Griffon. All are ice smooth in the front and super rough in the back.
They’re in the second row haha… no way it should be that rough.
@@Brandon-qd2lb idk what else to say that's just how the model is.
epic!!!
Happy to be of service Ryan, hope you enjoyed!
1:00
Is there a break-in period for these dive coasters. My home dive coaster Sheikra is very smooth. It's the oldest dive in America and appears to ride smoother.
This thing looks a little jolty at points, why have some B&M's been rough/rattley as of late?
Glad you got to ride it Ryan, but Holy Schitzars it looked like it had a hyper rattle and that jolt at the end looked horrible.
I like the mini layout, but it looks like this is going to be a "problematic" episode some day.
candymonium and iron menace are made from the same manufacturer. iron menace does not have the same smoothness as candymonium. i am going to kill myself.
its so badd
no way these guys made candymonium fr fr ong ong
wake up babe new eltororyan video just dropped
Hmm not sure of that jerky moment
Is that a haunted house building next to the ride or some theming? Have fun fixing those potholes out.. no way they’ll let that slide for a while.
Kinda reminds me of a next gen arrow looper with the layout
01:52 dude where is the theming? Looks terrible
Is this Talon at Dorney Park?
Hopefully doesn’t become rough like Valravn and Yukon Striker after a year. Idk why these new B&M vest trains stuck around. Griffon and Sheikra are smoother at 15+ years old than these couple year old dive machines.
Yukon is not rough at all...
@@djeez553it’s got a few jolts that are absurdly ridiculous. and it DEFINITELY has a rattle in the back row
@@TezWatkins Not at all, I ride Yukon yearly, it was smooth then and it's smooth now...
0:59 sooo what happened here?
Jesus christ what happened with that track? Clermont must be having a hard time these days, yikes
hey i see taylor and dawson lol
🫡🫡
Man, that layout looked very good but this is Gerslauer level of smoothness for probably quadruple the cost! Manufacturers like B&M and Mack Rides really don't seem to care. Just makes me appreciate modern Vekomas and Intamins even more!
um 0:59 what in the world was that?
yeeeeeehaw!
Good times
What has happened to B&M? It’s worse and worse quality at each opening. Shake, shutter, and now LEGIT JOLTS! 😮
Why on Earth does this look so shaky at the top of the Immelman, exiting the inclined loop, entering the corkscrew, and have an especially strong jolt before the brakes? I've never seen so much jankiness on a BRAND NEW B&M. 😢
Can we get a problematic coaster video on the world’s largest lawn ornament Steel Curtain?
My lord, those vest restraints are so obnoxious.
bro what is that jolt bro is rhis an intamin or something
Damn it’s already got a visible rattle. What happened to B&M build quality?
Is it the camera or dose this ride have a rattle
That pothole at 0:59 looks like something i would see on SOB (son of beast)
SOB?
@@tpgcoasters5849 son of beast I think
@@acceleradam ding ding ding!
Wtf was the jolt near the end
dive coasters with mid courses will always be inferior. literally kills the ride
Dude I think your channel is underrated but your takes are kinda bad Griffon and Yukon are the best dives
Drops off the mid course are awesome in the back. I like them.
agreed 🤝🏽
@@HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3odyou mean Grifmid and Midkon Striker?😂 jk. i love griffon. not a fan of yukon tho
@@HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3odyukon looks so good up until the mid course. after that idk
WHY THAT JOLT DO THEY ALREADY NEED A RETRACK??
Your homie next to you is so HOT🔥
Thanks!
is B&M or vekoma old school ?
Y'all it's one jolt chill tf out
It looks rougher than cliffhanger at fiesta texas
nope. been on both. cliffhanger is rougher and less forceful. this ride is superior
Cliffhanger is not rough anymore the park added some more suspensions a few weeks ago and they themed it more and they programmed the mid course to not slow people down so much causing the airtime hill to be forceful and the valley after the drop I think is more intense that iron menaces and the helix is more forceful but the loop is pretty forceful on iron menace but I think cliffhanger is better
@@Tswiftandkanye eh i went on cliffhanger this weekend and still hated it
@@Tswiftandkanye if cliffhanger wasnt forceless and boring then yea maybe it could compete with iron menace. but unfortunately is the worst dive in north america
Has some weird movements ... specially for a b&m
Nothing shouldn’t be wasted considering on how tiny it is definitely stating the obvious. I am mean emperor had more of a solid layout than this.
Is this the same type of coaster as Yukon striker?
Yes, both are B&M Dive Coasters
weeeeeeeeeeeeee
Scrap it now
Is this the first B&M with a track jump 0:59
3rd
Better or worse then valravn
talon girl i love you i would die for you i understand you ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Who is she?? I’ve seen multiple comments about her
@@emilyrose31 I have no idea I just connect to her I feel the same way about certain rides 💀
I'm sorry but that look hella weak. RMCs have spoiled me forever.
6th
I was the 69th like on 2 comments here (almost 3). What prize do I get, if any?
Talon 2 >>>>
The green glasses on the favorite uncle are dumb.
Snore fest
It's still not as great as Sheikra!
sheikra more like midkra
Ill be the one to say it then....dude looks like a complete toolbox in those green temu glasses
Thanks man!
You talked shit now you need to drop your address
@@Uncle_Nate I love you uncle
@@ksoccer2415 I love you
That second inversion looks super solid, and the tilted loops looks way more fun than I thought it would
Also, wtf was that jolt at the end?
UNCLE NATE
This looks awesome. I wonder if it's a requirement from B&M to have the first element after the drop be an Immelmann. B&M makes excellent rides, but it seems they like to be repetitive on their dive coasters. Are they not comfortable with say, a dive loop, or a vertical loop coming after the first drop?
Still, this Immelmann looks incredibly floaty!