I _knew_ I was forgetting something about that assist. Thanks for the correction, I honestly need to start including THC variations into the assist breakdowns.
@@TheSeventhForce Certain characters like Silver Samurai, and Rogue also have a unique THC super that is not in their movelist. Silver Samurai's expansion assist, and Rogue's dash assist.
@@WerewulfNerd2000 Yep, I'm aware of those two, particularly Rogue since I personally run a team around her, and it's a (somewhat) viable option if you find yourself in a situation where she's your anchor.
I almost feel like whoever was in charge of writing the game knew there probably wouldn't be another opportunity to resolve the whole Black Hayato plot thread from Plasma Sword, so they took the opportunity and went for it.
Stellar video dude 🤙🏽 Was hoping to learn a few new things and I did! Hayato has been my favorite since Day 1 on the Dreamcast. Didnt get to play Star Gladiator until emulating on my PSP in highschool, wish the series got some form of remake or remaster. Thanks for the coverage on a great Capcom character that doesnt get enough love ✌🏽
Yeah, they've done pretty much nothing with this series in decades. Star Gladiator got released as a PS1 Classic on PS3/PSP in Japan only, but that's about it. Glad you enjoyed the video!
I think UMVC3 Hayato's moves would be like: HIEN is a pretty good move, so maybe it shouldn't change. DAI OIUCHI KOUGEKI could either: Become a move like Spencer's or Frank West's "dive knee" kinda move or become some sort od dive kick like Trish's and Logan's; DOKURYUU could be a really good tool for Hayato if they made if faster, so then he could open up enemies more efficiently; SOURYUU could send them flying low, so Hayato could pick them up and continue his combos; SHIDEN's last hit could ground bounce; GUREN is alright, I guess; so is BYAKKO HOU (good combo starter); If PLASMA COMBO STARTER (L) was faster, it could be used more often. Less starting frames, maybe? RASETSU ZAN should have some invincibilty frames the moment you do the super, like Crawler assault. Als less recovery time after he finishes; I like the idea of PLASMA FIELD really being a plasma field. Hayato gets a big ass sword, his normals get more reach and damage without losing much speed. All that in a box that is not so big the enemies can fly away, not so smal they can stare at each other constantly. And he could perform his supers while in the field. They'd do more damage cause big ass sword; Engetsu could improve with less recovery time after he throws the attack. Guess that's it. Good stuff, my man! Nice series
What I find interesting about Hayato's "pillar" super (Engetsu if you're wondering) is that, unlike other "pillar" supers like Hulk, Gambit or Magneto, his does not forcefully move the screen to the other side of the stage.
Originally, Another trivia that needs to show is the changing of Hayato's VA between the sequels. First was, Nobutoshi Hayashi, for Star Gladiator(AKA: Plasma Sword 1). He was also in that time the Classic Voice to Knucles for Sonic Series, and Classic Shikamaru for Naruto Series. Second was, Toshiyuki Morikawa for Plasma Sword, and moreover, in MVC2 getting him voice files recycled.(Well, himself dispansate introduction.) The Voice for Classic Ryu in Street Fighter Alpha 3, and MVC1. Cyber Blue, in Battle Circuit. Roberto Mikawa, in Rival Schools. Kojuro Katakura, in Japanese VL for Sengoku Basara Series. AND.... Coincidentially, As treated before, the Voice of Tekkaman Blade in Tatsunoko VS Capcom. Not ironical but, Both Hayato and Tekkaman Blade appear toghether along to defeat Ghost Bilstein in Tekkaman Blade's Ending. Could it be some kind of... Reference?! Therefore, He was also the Voice for Hayate in Street Fighter EX Series and Fighting EX Layer. And popular for the Voice of Sephiroth in Square's Final Fantasy Series. (PS: Note that Morikawa uses the voice him used for Cyber Blue.)
It kinda sucks that when Capcom makes a new IP it either fails financially or receives poor reviews which sucks because as much as I love Capcom’s big franchises I also love some of their lesser known game series. I’m hoping that Pragmata project will be a huge success for Capcom because they seriously need new IPs.
Without knowing anything about Star Gladiators, Hayato was one of the first characters I chose in Marvel vs Capcom II. 🥹 It’s a shame he never returned to the Capcom vs series after MvCII. Especially after the big shift into 3-D fighters. Bilstein would’ve also been a great villain to include in the later Capcom vs games, imo… 🤔
I remember first seeing Hayato in one of those screen borders in collections in another youtube video about MVC2. I couldn't get the clearest view of him since he was behind some of the other characters, and I just saw his silver headband thing... and I mistook him for Solid Snake. And I was like "what the hell is bro doing here??!" My next thought is either that he was a marvel character I didn't know about, or he was a Capcom character from the arcades that I didn't know about. Which made me feel dumb for that being my third guess.
I really hope Capcom makes a 3D Fighting Game Collection like they did for their 2D games back in 2022. I’d like to try out the Star Gladiator games cuz they really do look fun and intriguing. Also hope they add Rival Schools too. It would suck for these games to stay being inaccessible.
Loved using him...seems generic and there at first until u open him up a bit. Also luv his animation chains with his zoink...zoink...zoink sabre sound effects.
I played SG2 last year. Pretty fun time, i love watching tournament play. Definitely cool that Capcom, Sega and Namco all of their own awesome weapons based 3d fighters, even if they varied in longevity
I noticed that Hayato has moves named after the Four Symbols/Four Auspicious Beasts from Chinese mythology, though using their Japanese names. specifically Byakko (the White Tiger, representing the West) and Suzaku (the Vermilion Bird, representing the North)
Absolutely loved this video, Hayato happens to be one of my favorite characters from MVC2, even way before MVC2 I was, still am, a Star Gladiator fan. Back when MVC2 was announced I remember reading about his inclusion in GamePro or some other video game magazine and they featured a screen shot of his sprite and it got me super excited for the game. I knew he was gonna be one of my mains, unfortunately he turned out to be a trash character but i didn't care, he's still my top pick and just use what works. In my opinion he's still a good character.
Speaking of obscure Capcom characters if MVC 4 were to ever happen I want to see Zack and Wiki because Zack and Wiki is such a hidden gem on the Wii and I think his moveset potential would be so cool.
Hayato's assists also determine what he contributes to the team super... so the first is Shiden + Rasetsu Zan. The 2nd is Guren + Engetsu, and the 3rd is Shiden + Engetsu.
Imagine a timeline where Capcom made a Star Wars fighter, my God.
Yeah and we wouldn't have Star Wars Masters of Teras Kasi
@@kato_grey YEAH LIKE HOW DOD LUCASFILM CHOKE THAT AND SAY NO TO 90'S CAPCOM BRUH
Hayato's balanced assist changes his cross-over counter to a short Guren, and his THC is Engetsu, instead of Rasetsu Zan from his expansion assist.
I _knew_ I was forgetting something about that assist. Thanks for the correction, I honestly need to start including THC variations into the assist breakdowns.
@@TheSeventhForce Certain characters like Silver Samurai, and Rogue also have a unique THC super that is not in their movelist. Silver Samurai's expansion assist, and Rogue's dash assist.
@@WerewulfNerd2000 Yep, I'm aware of those two, particularly Rogue since I personally run a team around her, and it's a (somewhat) viable option if you find yourself in a situation where she's your anchor.
Always found it interesting he was solely an enemy in Project X Zone 2
I almost feel like whoever was in charge of writing the game knew there probably wouldn't be another opportunity to resolve the whole Black Hayato plot thread from Plasma Sword, so they took the opportunity and went for it.
@@TheSeventhForce And yet they never made him a playable character.
R.I.P Amingo. 😢
I have to say, I really enjoy your content. Interesting niche. Capcom vs analysis. Unique. Great breakdowns. Keep it up.
Thank you, I appreciate it!
Stellar video dude 🤙🏽 Was hoping to learn a few new things and I did!
Hayato has been my favorite since Day 1 on the Dreamcast. Didnt get to play Star Gladiator until emulating on my PSP in highschool, wish the series got some form of remake or remaster.
Thanks for the coverage on a great Capcom character that doesnt get enough love ✌🏽
Yeah, they've done pretty much nothing with this series in decades. Star Gladiator got released as a PS1 Classic on PS3/PSP in Japan only, but that's about it.
Glad you enjoyed the video!
I think UMVC3 Hayato's moves would be like:
HIEN is a pretty good move, so maybe it shouldn't change.
DAI OIUCHI KOUGEKI could either: Become a move like Spencer's or Frank West's "dive knee" kinda move or become some sort od dive kick like Trish's and Logan's;
DOKURYUU could be a really good tool for Hayato if they made if faster, so then he could open up enemies more efficiently;
SOURYUU could send them flying low, so Hayato could pick them up and continue his combos;
SHIDEN's last hit could ground bounce;
GUREN is alright, I guess; so is BYAKKO HOU (good combo starter);
If PLASMA COMBO STARTER (L) was faster, it could be used more often. Less starting frames, maybe?
RASETSU ZAN should have some invincibilty frames the moment you do the super, like Crawler assault. Als less recovery time after he finishes;
I like the idea of PLASMA FIELD really being a plasma field. Hayato gets a big ass sword, his normals get more reach and damage without losing much speed. All that in a box that is not so big the enemies can fly away, not so smal they can stare at each other constantly. And he could perform his supers while in the field. They'd do more damage cause big ass sword;
Engetsu could improve with less recovery time after he throws the attack.
Guess that's it. Good stuff, my man! Nice series
I wonder if any of the UMVC3 modders already put back Hayato ok the game
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What I find interesting about Hayato's "pillar" super (Engetsu if you're wondering) is that, unlike other "pillar" supers like Hulk, Gambit or Magneto, his does not forcefully move the screen to the other side of the stage.
Originally, Another trivia that needs to show is the changing of Hayato's VA between the sequels.
First was, Nobutoshi Hayashi, for Star Gladiator(AKA: Plasma Sword 1).
He was also in that time the Classic Voice to Knucles for Sonic Series, and Classic Shikamaru for Naruto Series.
Second was, Toshiyuki Morikawa for Plasma Sword, and moreover, in MVC2 getting him voice files recycled.(Well, himself dispansate introduction.)
The Voice for Classic Ryu in Street Fighter Alpha 3, and MVC1.
Cyber Blue, in Battle Circuit.
Roberto Mikawa, in Rival Schools.
Kojuro Katakura, in Japanese VL for Sengoku Basara Series.
AND....
Coincidentially, As treated before, the Voice of Tekkaman Blade in Tatsunoko VS Capcom.
Not ironical but, Both Hayato and Tekkaman Blade appear toghether along to defeat Ghost Bilstein in Tekkaman Blade's Ending.
Could it be some kind of... Reference?!
Therefore, He was also the Voice for Hayate in Street Fighter EX Series and Fighting EX Layer.
And popular for the Voice of Sephiroth in Square's Final Fantasy Series.
(PS: Note that Morikawa uses the voice him used for Cyber Blue.)
I like hayatos design an now wish another mvc game would be made with hayato and have Steve Blum voice him. (if you can’t tell I like Steve Blum)
It kinda sucks that when Capcom makes a new IP it either fails financially or receives poor reviews which sucks because as much as I love Capcom’s big franchises I also love some of their lesser known game series.
I’m hoping that Pragmata project will be a huge success for Capcom because they seriously need new IPs.
Without knowing anything about Star Gladiators, Hayato was one of the first characters I chose in Marvel vs Capcom II. 🥹
It’s a shame he never returned to the Capcom vs series after MvCII. Especially after the big shift into 3-D fighters. Bilstein would’ve also been a great villain to include in the later Capcom vs games, imo… 🤔
I remember first seeing Hayato in one of those screen borders in collections in another youtube video about MVC2. I couldn't get the clearest view of him since he was behind some of the other characters, and I just saw his silver headband thing... and I mistook him for Solid Snake. And I was like "what the hell is bro doing here??!"
My next thought is either that he was a marvel character I didn't know about, or he was a Capcom character from the arcades that I didn't know about. Which made me feel dumb for that being my third guess.
I really hope Capcom makes a 3D Fighting Game Collection like they did for their 2D games back in 2022. I’d like to try out the Star Gladiator games cuz they really do look fun and intriguing. Also hope they add Rival Schools too. It would suck for these games to stay being inaccessible.
Loved using him...seems generic and there at first until u open him up a bit. Also luv his animation chains with his zoink...zoink...zoink sabre sound effects.
I played SG2 last year. Pretty fun time, i love watching tournament play. Definitely cool that Capcom, Sega and Namco all of their own awesome weapons based 3d fighters, even if they varied in longevity
I just gotta tell you your page is awesome... I've been hooked on these legacy videos.And i've learned a lot .. thanks for the work u put in bro
Appreciate the kind words man 🙏
Rip Amingo, one of the bros... TnT
I noticed that Hayato has moves named after the Four Symbols/Four Auspicious Beasts from Chinese mythology, though using their Japanese names. specifically Byakko (the White Tiger, representing the West) and Suzaku (the Vermilion Bird, representing the North)
Absolutely loved this video, Hayato happens to be one of my favorite characters from MVC2, even way before MVC2 I was, still am, a Star Gladiator fan. Back when MVC2 was announced I remember reading about his inclusion in GamePro or some other video game magazine and they featured a screen shot of his sprite and it got me super excited for the game. I knew he was gonna be one of my mains, unfortunately he turned out to be a trash character but i didn't care, he's still my top pick and just use what works. In my opinion he's still a good character.
Speaking of obscure Capcom characters if MVC 4 were to ever happen I want to see Zack and Wiki because Zack and Wiki is such a hidden gem on the Wii and I think his moveset potential would be so cool.
Hayato's assists also determine what he contributes to the team super... so the first is Shiden + Rasetsu Zan. The 2nd is Guren + Engetsu, and the 3rd is Shiden + Engetsu.
Hayato's combo concept reminds me of Angel's Unchain Combo from KoF. Sadly he's quite low tier in MvC2.
Hadn't thought of that, but yeah, I can see the similarities. Angel's stuff is arguably more complex though, lol
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