For some reason, Low tier battles are more exciting than just pure top tiers (perhaps because there's more chance of variaty to begin with), that 1st match you may have lost, but this kind of stuff is what we why say MVC games are something to behold as NOTHING is set until the last pixel of health is done for or the last second of the match concludes, as there's always a chance for a crazy comeback.
That's Marvel baby! These games are some of the most absolute BS you can find. That also happens to be what makes them some of the most hype games you can find! Getting clipped with an infinite into guard break on incoming and getting entirely washed without being able to do anything is a good example of why some people hate these games. That same thing happening when an opponent has a pixel of life left and makes the comeback with nothing left in the tank is also the entire reason why some people LOVE these games.
I agree. I also think some people hear the word low tier and just automatically think those characters always get bodied every single time. That’s not the case it’s just statistically over the course of a long set they’d be exposed but that doesn’t mean in one off matches they can’t be great.
It’s just…. WILDLY different than what we’re usually seeing out of mvc2 videos. 9 times out of 10 if you’re watching a video of the game it’s of people who are good, which usually means they’re using the good characters. So when you see stuff like this it kinda lowkey wrecks your brain in a good way. Same level of chaos but just with way different moves and graphics on the screen 😂
High level low tier matches or random select matches are the ultimate forms of fun in any good team fg, even others than MvC. Like DBFZ, KOF, etc. Because team fgs usually have a bit more of tier whoring than 1v1.
for bison teleports, the indicator is where center screen is. since he has clones that are basically off screen on the left 1:48 you can at least know he crossing up. same with height, if the screen scales up a lil bit, you know its high
One of the reasons I enjoy watching Justin's channel is how much I learn from it. As someone who plays not only "low tiers" but also, low skills it's neat to learn what I'm doing wrong.
Low tier MvC2, the ultimate most fun way to play and watch this game. Amazing that you still got more JP low tier matches for us, as it was already rare and special to set up the low tier MvC2 matches from the first video. Thank you for the content.
That's a cool tidbit about the Jin post super mashing to get up. Didn't know that super worked that way - it's like Commando's Captain Storm super if you mash after you don't get OTG'd into another super lol some people just eat an extra sword for free for not knowing
I can’t get enough of low-tier matches. Not only is it refreshing to see more characters, other than the overdone Storm/Sentinel/Cyclops/Cable/Magneto teams, but we get to see players show off great creativity and strategy with characters that have obstacles to overcome.
Love to see more of Justin playing Amingo. It is just so entertaining to watch. My go to "low tier" team has always been Juggy/Cammy/Hulk. Power up Juggy and tag in Cammy. Cammy is the can opener, Head/Gamma Crush is the payoff. KBA is a wonky super, but it can do some really silly things with those two DHCs.
Love the low-tier play! And I suspect he picked Tron not for point but for her Y assist. That glitch damage is crazy. I used to have a team of Felicia/Tron/Cable that operated with that assist doing massive damage into Please Help Me with Felicia. Cable was there for obvious Tiger Knee AHVB, LOL.
When i was in high school here in hawaii, this one dude came to our arcade and straight merked everyone there using storm, t-bonne and amingo if i remember correctly. People were calling their friends to come down and challenge that guy but nobody could beat him and none of us ever saw that team before. I miss those days when arcades were still a thing back in the early 2000's
7:53 thats crazy I didn't know that. I think Soul Calbur has something similar, at least SC1 did where you can move your character in the air kinda while they are getting hit to ruin combos.
@@carlosaugusto9821 it probably goes back even further. I'm sure there's other games where you can mess around with your air trajectory while you are being hit.. a lot of games have wierd properties during hitstun, it's not Killer Instinct combo breaker stuff but can affect how you move or are in the air. I know in 3S for example, after blocking the tatsu Akuma is punishable, but he can choose whether he wants to be punished standing or blocking.
Japan footage is always the best. Like how u take a classic game and make it still relevant @Justin Wong. I hope Capcom wakes up and gets back to what good 2D fighting games can still be playable and fun.
Seeing low tiers in High Level set plays makes me giddy. I know that the game has been broken down all these years but the possibility that some random tech can still pop up excites me
I always feel sad when I see Amigo. There was a time I agreed with people that the character was stupid. Now adays, though, I am just BEGGING for characters like him in media.
Justin I wanted your opinion on something. How would you feel about in a future update to Marvel vs Capcom 2, they allow for 4-on-4, or 5-on-5 battles. So the way that would work is to choose 3 fighters, then 1 or 2 fighters in reserve. You would start a 3 on 3 battle as normal, then once a fighter is killed the reserve fighter replaces him/her.
as someone whos new to playing mvc2 in any serious manner, should i be learning top tier meta teams or should i just pick a team i like and not worry about "top tier"
Neva know what's gonna happen when its low tier. When Jw narrates high, he calls it play for play. Low tier is much different, seems to have more fun too, cuz of unexpected stuff. Seeing learning Jin got me hype. Most Violent Jin rye here on fightcade an ps3 for whoever want it. Imma run into him one day. I wanna fight top players to c where I'm at.
If this game was just a 1 on 1 traditional fighting game style It would just be so much more enjoyable I really wish that this game had a 1 on 1 versus option 2 out of 3 it would be so much more fun for not only casuals The assist button might as well be Yelling at your opponent or unplugging their joystick
I keep saying it, my guy...that Ken Tatsu assist puts in WORK. And how sick would it be if you could somehow bust out your Alpha 3 Sakura custom combo in MvC2?
I don't understand the decision to CANCEL Ruby's Hyper into Ken. It seemed like he probably could have gotten off the Pirate Ship Hyper Combo thingy. Feels like a waste, but then again I'm no Pro, so trying to understand.
I would highly suggest checking out MADDROO. Will take any chance I can to get their name out there. They run Sim/Anakaris/Sent and puts up pretty good results at tournaments against some of the top tier MVC2 players (people like Martix and Viper). His Sim is absolutely insane, and I am now low-key convinced that Anakaris is actually really good.
This whole thing is a little weird. I thought Sakura was considered to be pretty high tier in Japan? Seeing Sim is a little weird to me also, since I know many of the top tier players consider Sim to be just under the level of God Tier, and would be were it not for the insane execution required to really play him at that level. Tron seems iffy to me too. I don't often see that assist not banned in this sort of setting. Either way, always happy to see more MVC2 content.
That's his original name decided by the japanese makers. It had to be changed just because of the western version, along with Balrog and Bison names. And outside of that Gouki turned into Akuma in the west.
Fear of legal issues mostly. There was fear M.(ike) Bison could cause some legal issues with M.(ike) Tyson, the character he was obviously based on. So they decided to swap the names around for the western release, and thus Dictator was swapped from Vega to M. Bison, Claw was swapped from Balrog to Vega, and Boxer was swapped from M. Bison to Balrog. Which is why they picked up the names Dictator, Claw, and Boxer among the community to create some cohesion between the versions and prevent too much confusion.
Kind of funny for Justin to wonder what Sakura could do against Anakaris, because "get life lead > Dark Sak > teleport timer scam" is the ultimate lame game 🙃
Is it really? Because in the 20 year history of this game it's funny that we've never seen that strategy dominating or even winning a single tournament.
Justin, when the next KOFXV update fixing online comes out, please, make videos. Only seeing Capcom games is getting boring. I want to see play way outside your element.
He plays a lot of non Capcom fgs. And actually outside of Capcom he's played mostly SNK fgs: in the channel there are videos of FF, AOF, KOF and smaller SNK games like Kizuna Encounter, Last Blade, etc. It's just that lately there's a focus on his matches in Japan arcades, and indeed he played pretty much only Capcom which is his specialty after all.
3:31 Have we never heard you say b-tch? I know you talk street, so I'm not too surprised.. just maybe think of Harper, and don't make it normal for her to hear from men
For some reason, Low tier battles are more exciting than just pure top tiers (perhaps because there's more chance of variaty to begin with), that 1st match you may have lost, but this kind of stuff is what we why say MVC games are something to behold as NOTHING is set until the last pixel of health is done for or the last second of the match concludes, as there's always a chance for a crazy comeback.
That's Marvel baby!
These games are some of the most absolute BS you can find. That also happens to be what makes them some of the most hype games you can find!
Getting clipped with an infinite into guard break on incoming and getting entirely washed without being able to do anything is a good example of why some people hate these games. That same thing happening when an opponent has a pixel of life left and makes the comeback with nothing left in the tank is also the entire reason why some people LOVE these games.
I agree. I also think some people hear the word low tier and just automatically think those characters always get bodied every single time. That’s not the case it’s just statistically over the course of a long set they’d be exposed but that doesn’t mean in one off matches they can’t be great.
It’s just…. WILDLY different than what we’re usually seeing out of mvc2 videos. 9 times out of 10 if you’re watching a video of the game it’s of people who are good, which usually means they’re using the good characters. So when you see stuff like this it kinda lowkey wrecks your brain in a good way. Same level of chaos but just with way different moves and graphics on the screen 😂
Low tier matches mean I get to see some weird combos, and you get to watch some mechanics that are skipped in top tier fights.
High level low tier matches or random select matches are the ultimate forms of fun in any good team fg, even others than MvC. Like DBFZ, KOF, etc. Because team fgs usually have a bit more of tier whoring than 1v1.
for bison teleports, the indicator is where center screen is. since he has clones that are basically off screen on the left 1:48 you can at least know he crossing up. same with height, if the screen scales up a lil bit, you know its high
I feel like there's always something new to learn about MvC2 when people play low/mid tier.
One of the reasons I enjoy watching Justin's channel is how much I learn from it. As someone who plays not only "low tiers" but also, low skills it's neat to learn what I'm doing wrong.
That Amingo/Ken corner combo ending in root and shinryuken got me hyped, that looked sick!
Same, it was crazy cool
I have played MvS2 since the early 2000's and I loved that more than 2 decades later, I keep learning little things about this game from you.
Low tier MvC2, the ultimate most fun way to play and watch this game. Amazing that you still got more JP low tier matches for us, as it was already rare and special to set up the low tier MvC2 matches from the first video. Thank you for the content.
Seeing Justin play as Jin just makes my day. Nice banner too for this video.
Jin hayato stryder/akuma was my team as a kid
This game no matter how many times you play it it's still a classic that holds up to this day
That's a cool tidbit about the Jin post super mashing to get up. Didn't know that super worked that way - it's like Commando's Captain Storm super if you mash after you don't get OTG'd into another super lol some people just eat an extra sword for free for not knowing
I saw AnakarusCurse was in that chat. They're an EXTREMELY good and entertaining low tier player. Would love to see a full set against Justin.
AnakarisCurse, VDO, MagusOld... always a low tier slugfest with those 3.
@@Chadius yup Jarguonazz and Silenceguy too. A low tier tournament with all of them and Justin would be some of the best MvsC2 anyone will ever see.
I can’t get enough of low-tier matches. Not only is it refreshing to see more characters, other than the overdone Storm/Sentinel/Cyclops/Cable/Magneto teams, but we get to see players show off great creativity and strategy with characters that have obstacles to overcome.
Love to see more of Justin playing Amingo. It is just so entertaining to watch.
My go to "low tier" team has always been Juggy/Cammy/Hulk.
Power up Juggy and tag in Cammy. Cammy is the can opener, Head/Gamma Crush is the payoff. KBA is a wonky super, but it can do some really silly things with those two DHCs.
Can't get enough of ur mvc2 content
Love the low-tier play! And I suspect he picked Tron not for point but for her Y assist. That glitch damage is crazy. I used to have a team of Felicia/Tron/Cable that operated with that assist doing massive damage into Please Help Me with Felicia. Cable was there for obvious Tiger Knee AHVB, LOL.
Dodon's skill with just a variety is wholesome to watch. Justin these videos are always my favorite MVC2 videos you upload..
When i was in high school here in hawaii, this one dude came to our arcade and straight merked everyone there using storm, t-bonne and amingo if i remember correctly. People were calling their friends to come down and challenge that guy but nobody could beat him and none of us ever saw that team before. I miss those days when arcades were still a thing back in the early 2000's
Low tears are where some fresh entertainment is at
I like when Justin teaches us how to get better.
5:15. Geezus that was nasty 🤢🤮
My man Justin is back in the building again. Hope you and the fam are good.
7:53 thats crazy I didn't know that. I think Soul Calbur has something similar, at least SC1 did where you can move your character in the air kinda while they are getting hit to ruin combos.
So it seems MvC2 did it earlier... unless that was also in SC1, that im very unfamiliar with.
@@carlosaugusto9821 it probably goes back even further. I'm sure there's other games where you can mess around with your air trajectory while you are being hit.. a lot of games have wierd properties during hitstun, it's not Killer Instinct combo breaker stuff but can affect how you move or are in the air. I know in 3S for example, after blocking the tatsu Akuma is punishable, but he can choose whether he wants to be punished standing or blocking.
Japan footage is always the best. Like how u take a classic game and make it still relevant @Justin Wong. I hope Capcom wakes up and gets back to what good 2D fighting games can still be playable and fun.
I love watching low tier characters more in MVC2 it’s more hype imo.
5:58 LOL, your editor is hilarious!
Hulk, Collosus or Thanos I'm in!
The BEST color choice (purple) for Ken Masters, son
I remember watching people in the arcade playing as Amingo and just taking players down easily.
I miss the Marvel 2 content but excited to see you on Street Fighter 6, I've been having fun with it so far
Goddang the references were on point! Editing way to go !
JIN MAINS UNITE!
Also finally some respect for the dictator!!! Bison if you nasty!
Love it. I was a Jin main, great to see you play him.
"Play that neutch" sounds so dirty 😂
"Sakura's sick. I like Sakura a lot." That's completely new information!! XD
2:36
Words of a proud father.
BOMBie.. BOMBie... still my fav 2D fighter, EVER.
Love these low tier vids. Thanks for using Jin. It is nice to see what he can do.
Jwong on point with these movie references
Nice job I was going through my old ps games and found a old fighting game Cardinal SYN kind of cool fighting game
Seeing low tiers in High Level set plays makes me giddy. I know that the game has been broken down all these years but the possibility that some random tech can still pop up excites me
10:34 you reminded me with those spirit fingers from Bring It On!
Yay! More MvC2 content please!!!
The only thing wrong with this video, is its too short.
I love the movie clips for anyone that didn't understand the references lol
Ohhh, you can mash out of hard knockdowns?? That reminds me of the same possibility in Final Fight! Maybe I should play this again?
sounds track is still the bomb
Always thumbs up for low tier mvc2. Still waiting for ratio mvc2 at evo someday....
Listening to Justin breakdown the attacks/combos/strategy reminds me how much I suck at fighting games 😒🤣🤣🤣
Let that Hulk cook!
I always feel sad when I see Amigo. There was a time I agreed with people that the character was stupid. Now adays, though, I am just BEGGING for characters like him in media.
Why haven't you use my team Justin?
(BEAST LOW TIER TEAM)
Captain Commando (AIR)(MAIN)
Juggernaut (DASH)[GLITCHED]
Blackheart (AIR)
Justin I wanted your opinion on something. How would you feel about in a future update to Marvel vs Capcom 2, they allow for 4-on-4, or 5-on-5 battles. So the way that would work is to choose 3 fighters, then 1 or 2 fighters in reserve. You would start a 3 on 3 battle as normal, then once a fighter is killed the reserve fighter replaces him/her.
I've missed your Amingo team so much
This is low, tier ...... MAHVAL BAYBEE! Was not expecting a T1 edit though lol
Mvc 2 low tier characters is so good to watch.
We never saw you cursing or smashing the joystick or tv screen, always cool 😃👍👍
“I was tryna get freaky bro !” 😂😂
I can confirm that that you did indeed get freaky on em 😂😂
10:46 *Spirit Fingers*
Awesome video thanks 🙏
Mvc2! It's my dream to try to play against you bro lol
I hit the arcade every week awaiting your arrival😂
Tampa
No matter the tier, the matches are wild
1:43 Timed so perfectly
stay free low tier god
How does one play that his online against others?
Use to play this a lot back in the day at arcades and ps2. How do you play now? Console? Pc?
More mvc2 matches please
True believers, MARVEL IS BACK
I really miss my old arcade buddies.
as someone whos new to playing mvc2 in any serious manner, should i be learning top tier meta teams or should i just pick a team i like and not worry about "top tier"
Good Gods, I missed playing this game.
Neva know what's gonna happen when its low tier. When Jw narrates high, he calls it play for play. Low tier is much different, seems to have more fun too, cuz of unexpected stuff. Seeing learning Jin got me hype. Most Violent Jin rye here on fightcade an ps3 for whoever want it. Imma run into him one day. I wanna fight top players to c where I'm at.
If this game was just a 1 on 1 traditional fighting game style It would just be so much more enjoyable I really wish that this game had a 1 on 1 versus option 2 out of 3 it would be so much more fun for not only casuals The assist button might as well be Yelling at your opponent or unplugging their joystick
Shut up scrub, git gud
6:02
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
People will still be playing low tier Marvel in 10 years
I keep saying it, my guy...that Ken Tatsu assist puts in WORK. And how sick would it be if you could somehow bust out your Alpha 3 Sakura custom combo in MvC2?
What version is he using? The Dreamcast or the Arcade (NAOMI) version?
No one is low tier because everyone is "dope if you know how to use them"!
I don't understand the decision to CANCEL Ruby's Hyper into Ken. It seemed like he probably could have gotten off the Pirate Ship Hyper Combo thingy. Feels like a waste, but then again I'm no Pro, so trying to understand.
I just want Ruby Heart to make a comeback. Is that too much to ask, Capcom?
7:27
🤨🤔🤨🤔🤨🤔🤨🤔🤨🤔🤨🤨🤨
You telling me you can mash out of knock down in Marvel 2!?
Nah when my dog had Morgan in the corner he could've hit that anti air Super you over there putting down my boy dhalsim 😅
I'd love to see some Dha/Sto/Sent at at a tournament
I would highly suggest checking out MADDROO. Will take any chance I can to get their name out there.
They run Sim/Anakaris/Sent and puts up pretty good results at tournaments against some of the top tier MVC2 players (people like Martix and Viper).
His Sim is absolutely insane, and I am now low-key convinced that Anakaris is actually really good.
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
What console does MvC2 play the best online?
Speaking of "Low-Tier" & "MvC2," whoever thought it was a good idea to put Sakura there probably snorted you-know-what.
This whole thing is a little weird. I thought Sakura was considered to be pretty high tier in Japan? Seeing Sim is a little weird to me also, since I know many of the top tier players consider Sim to be just under the level of God Tier, and would be were it not for the insane execution required to really play him at that level.
Tron seems iffy to me too. I don't often see that assist not banned in this sort of setting.
Either way, always happy to see more MVC2 content.
If Bison had an 8 way he'd be black heart tier. Amingo's not low tier and you know it Justin lol
What version is this? Japanese?
I wanna see Justin grief people with Team Scrub. Is there footage of that or is he gonna have to make some?
Is there any way i could get this game on ps4?
Yo can we get that akuma 3rd strike 🤘🙌
We're not keeping score, Justin?
How are they playing this online?
MVC2 best fighting game in HISTORY next to SF2 Turbo ARCADE... includes mk trash etc
Why is M. Bison titled vega?
That's his Japanese name. Balrog, Vega, and Bison had their name change in the US version.
That's his original name decided by the japanese makers. It had to be changed just because of the western version, along with Balrog and Bison names. And outside of that Gouki turned into Akuma in the west.
Fear of legal issues mostly.
There was fear M.(ike) Bison could cause some legal issues with M.(ike) Tyson, the character he was obviously based on.
So they decided to swap the names around for the western release, and thus Dictator was swapped from Vega to M. Bison, Claw was swapped from Balrog to Vega, and Boxer was swapped from M. Bison to Balrog.
Which is why they picked up the names Dictator, Claw, and Boxer among the community to create some cohesion between the versions and prevent too much confusion.
gg
i never see mcv3. Is it a bad game?
low tier mahvel is the best fighting game! ;)
Why the fuck is Dhalsim in a low tier set? 😳
Kind of funny for Justin to wonder what Sakura could do against Anakaris, because "get life lead > Dark Sak > teleport timer scam" is the ultimate lame game 🙃
Is it really? Because in the 20 year history of this game it's funny that we've never seen that strategy dominating or even winning a single tournament.
@@reganpt1 I mean, you first have to get a life lead using a team with Sakura, so it's not really going to be reliable in a real tournament scene 🙃
Justin, when the next KOFXV update fixing online comes out, please, make videos. Only seeing Capcom games is getting boring. I want to see play way outside your element.
He plays a lot of non Capcom fgs. And actually outside of Capcom he's played mostly SNK fgs: in the channel there are videos of FF, AOF, KOF and smaller SNK games like Kizuna Encounter, Last Blade, etc. It's just that lately there's a focus on his matches in Japan arcades, and indeed he played pretty much only Capcom which is his specialty after all.
3:31 Have we never heard you say b-tch? I know you talk street, so I'm not too surprised.. just maybe think of Harper, and don't make it normal for her to hear from men