Now only two teams haven't been relegated. Santos was one of them. edit: Botafogo has a small fan base like ~2% (Top5. Flamengo ~22% Corinthians ~14%, São Paulo ~10%, Palmeiras ~7,7%, Vasco ~6,2%) VASCO DA GAMA.
@@Opinionatorr yeah i don't think they "count" in the same sense as flamengo and são paulo, it was just a technicality anyway (and i thought perhaps the op was counting them since santos went down, idk)
The brazilian SEASON starts in January and ends in December. The Brazilian LEAGUE starts in late April or early May. But for several months before that, clubs are playing the State Leagues, Libertadores, etc The reason is that being almost entirely in the southern hemisphere, summer is december to march and winter from june to september. Summer vacations therefore are usually in january. The southern hemisphere schools ALSO follow that same season pattern.
everyone talking about the Big teams, which i'm not against of, but We also have a Lot of underdogs usually! RedBull Bragantino (AND ITS NOT JUST ANOTHER CLUB THAT RED BULL BOUGHT!), Cuiabá and even Bahia, which are part of the City Group!
The reason for the existence of the Big 12 is because, until the 1960s, there was no national championship in Brazil, due to the large territorial extension and difficulty in moving teams around. Therefore, each Brazilian state had its own state championship. Each state had its 2 or 4 big clubs and, after the creation of the national championship in 1959, these big clubs also stood out on the national scene. Although there are 27 states in Brazil, only teams from the 4 most economically and politically important states stood out, they are: São Paulo (state): São Paulo, Corinthians, Santos and Palmeiras; Rio de Janeiro (state): Flamengo, Fluminense, Vasco da Gama and Botafogo; Minas Gerais: Cruzeiro and Atlético Mineiro; Rio Grande do Sul: Grêmio and Internacional. As the national championship has 20 teams, other forces that regularly appear and stand out are teams from the state of Paraná: Athletico Paranaense and Coritiba; and teams from the northeast region of Brazil: Bahia (from the state of Bahia); Sport Club Recife (from the state of Pernambuco); Fortaleza (in the state of Ceará), among others. State championships still exist, but without the strength they had in another era. A large part of the media and public opinion is in favor of reducing or even eliminating these championships, because they take up a large part of the calendar (from January to April) and increase the number of games for each team in the season, increasing the number of injuries and player fatigue (in a regular season in Brazil, teams usually play up to 70 games), which is a lot compared to Europe.
I'm a Vasco fan and there's a very important detail about the club, but not very well known, one of the reasons why they say the club has the most beautiful history in football. Just over a century ago, Brazilian football was exclusive to the elite and black people could not play for clubs, but Vasco da Gama, a popular team that had recently entered football, did not accept the bans from the Rio de Janeiro league ( football in Brazil at that time only had state competitions) and not only hired black players but was also the first of the Rio clubs to pay salaries to athletes (taking into account the financial condition of the players), this squad was champion by a wide margin, winning the title with ease. Because of this, their rivals (Flamengo, Botafogo, Fluminense), who were the main organizers of the state league, banned Vasco from playing in the championship, meaning the club was relegated. The presidents of the rivals claimed that the club could only return to the first division if it built a stadium (which was more difficult for the club as its majority fans were poorer), but Vasco fans not only joined together to finance the project but also participated in the construction of what was, at the time, the largest stadium in South America, so that Vasco da Gama would return to the first division and become one of the 4 big clubs in the state.
You can't really call Palmeiras the brazilian Man City, they were always HUGE, unlike city, the fun part of Brazilian football is that there are 10+ clubs that are huge and have a lot of tradition.
Right? Not even a Corinthians fan would say Palmeiras is like City lol. The closest thing to City we have is Athletico-PR, except they got bigger by themselves, instead of oil money
Been a longtime football fan since I was a kid, I at least heard of these teams, specifically for the reason you mentioned (with so many legends coming from Brazil, knowing the team they played for makes sense). To me, the mere existence of the Big 12 shows that this league can be well balanced and unpredictable. Usually, European leagues have a group of 3 teams who have dominated it: Italy (Juventus, AC Milan and Inter), Portugal (Sporting, Porto and Benfica), Turkey (Galatasaray, Fenerbahce and Besiktas) the Netherlands (Ajax, PSV and Feyenoord) and so on. Some leagues even only have two, like Scotland (Celtic and Rangers) and Spain (Real Madrid and Barcelona, although Atletico *could* be considered the third bigget one). But here, the list of "big teams that have dominated the League together" could even cover more than half of it, meaning that you could have the whole top half fighting for a trophy. I can't even fathom the idea of a league with *a dozen* title contenders. What also is interesting is that this league might even change mid-season, since the European Summer transfer window happens right through it, so you might even see teams performing well, only for them to lose their biggest stars and plummet.
@@arturgabriel5845most if teams of the other states are in the lower divisions. But some of them (like Amapá's, Acre's, etc.) Teams are almost amateur
A few corrections, here in Brazil, we also consider the old intercontinental cup as a club world cup since it was disputed between the UCL champion and the Libertadores champion. So for most brazilians, Sao Paulo has 3 world titles, Santos and Corinthians have 2, Gremio and Flamengo have 1. We really care about the states tournaments. For us, it's a great chance to beat our local rivals and win a cup. If you are interested, I recommend watching the Paulista, Carioca, and Gaucho tournament at the beginning of the year. Just like europe, each club has it own history outside of the pitch. I reccomend to learn a little bit about the history and the vibe of the team you will support before choosing it. Last, football is a huge thing in brazil. Everybody supports a team here, even the people who don't care about football. So once you choose a team and present yourself has a supporter, you are locked to it, it doesn't matter if the team is performing well or if it was relegated, for us changing your team is a huge shame.
Actually, the state championships part is no longer true. Ofc they hold historical value and were the most important tournaments back until like the 60s or 70s, but nowadays they just feel like an unnecessary chore for the bigger clubs, specially when it makes the calendar so awfully full and not allowing for a proper preseason. Sure smaller teams still find some relevance to it, but for the most part they need to be completely overhauled because ain't no fucking way you can tell me we still need state championships lasting for 3 months for everyone when that forces us continue the championship during Copa America...
@@brushark9090 many people says that, but if my team wins a state cup and don't win any other major trophies, this state title could save the season. And tbh, win some state championships in a row is a great achievement for the club.
I'm Italian, and we do still consider that as a World Cup. Nobody bats an eyes when they mention that Juventus is a World Champion (won it in 1985 and 1996)@@cqr4399
Fluminense fans are very proud of their youth system, that has formed several historical players such as Marcelo (Real Madrid) and Thiago Silva (Chelsea)
As a Fluminense fan I am not proud at all to see our best young players moving to other clubs. They should stay here and win titles for our club, I couldn't care less if Marcelo or Thiago Silva won 10 Champions League titles for Real Madrid or Chelsea to me and the other true Fluminense fans the most important for us would be seeing them play for our club and Win our League or Libertadores titles here with our colors and not some european club that we will never attend a match.
@@car105day5 unfortunately, the selling politics are awful for us and our jewels are sold by "banana price", but recently it is apearing to change. at worse, Xerém keep us on the top every season
@@car105day5 Agreed, but at least Marcelo came back and helped win the Libertadores, along with current "youth system" like André, Martinelli and John Kennedy.
Actually, the reason why the Brazilian League starts in May and ends in December is not because of "hot temperatures" but because the clubs compete in regional leagues from February to April. Brazil is too big, so each state holds a championship. For example: Flamengo, Fluminense, Vasco da Gama and Botafogo are from the state of Rio de Janeiro, so they compete in the 'Campeonato Carioca', as well as smaller clubs from the same state.
Hey man nice of you to clear it out. I was trying to learn how many competitions are there in a Brazilian season. Correct me if I'm wrong, I figured out regionally there are State leagues, State cups Nationally there are Serie A and Taca do Brasil And continentally there is Copa Libertadores
@@Random_Internet_Surferthere is the state league that holds a tournament phase with point system and the best ones go to the play-off phase which they hold semi-final and final but there is not a state cup. In the Northeast region of Brazil there is a league called 'Copa do Nordeste' which is made up by clubs from states from that region such as Bahia, Ceará, Pernambuco, etc. In the past we had more regional leagues such as 'Rio-São Paulo' and 'Primeira Liga'. At national level, there is the Brazilian League and Brazilian Cup and their respective Supercups. At continental level we have the Copa Libertadores (similar to UEFA Champions League) and Copa Sul-americana (similar to Europa League). We also have their respective Supercups. In the past we had another one called 'Copa Mercosul'.
@@victorguitarrista okay I was going through Flumineses season, they won the league phase which is called Taca Guanabara and finally won Campeonato Cairoca I thought they’re two different titles
@@Random_Internet_SurferIn the Rio championship there is a table of 11 teams, where everyone faces each other once and in the end the 4 first placed teams qualify for the knockout stage, and the first placed team receives the Guanabara cup and some advantages, and then whoever wins gets the Rio championship
As a Brazilian, i appreciate the effort to bring our top flight football to Europe and, as a way to enhance the video i´ll be glad to give some considerations, of not trying to criticise in a bad way: Atlético Mineiro is located in Belo Horizonte, as opposed to what was said at 2:22 Flamengo is a 7-times champion of Serie A, butsome might say the team has 8 titles, due to a controversial 1987 season (long story short: the big teams clashed interests with CBD, nowadays CBF, and the championship was a mess) Also Flamengo not only has the biggest fan base in Rio, as they are the most popular team in Brazil (generally speaking) Bragantino has a deep history in the São Paulo State championship, but it´s still overshadowed by the Red Bull takeover Fortaleza, like Bragantino, has a rich history in not only their State Champioship, but also in the Northeast region, commonly referred as one of the biggest of the Northeast, but is overshadowed by their underperformance in Serie A Cruzeiro´s campaign, although not particularly strong, is a good foundation for the future, as the team will compete a continental competition next year in a stunning resurrection since R9´s takeover (and I myself am a Cruzeiro supporter) Other teams not mentioned, América-MG, Goiás and Coritiba have been yo-yo clubs in Serie A for the last decade, but have great significance in their respective states, carrying loads of history themselves. And that's it, i appreciate you video and thank you for the recognization that you bring to our football to the "outsiders"
As an Internacional fan, in 2006 we actually won against Barcelona for the Club world cup final. That Barcelona team had Ronaldinho, Zambrotta, Iniesta, Xavi, and some other players. Btw, that time we won the league undefeated without losing a single match was in 1979 with an unstoppable team, Paulo Roberto Falcão, Figueroa, and some others.
A good point to show for everyone who's interested on Brazil local soccer it is: Here we have "short cicles", it's very commom to see a club winning everything in a year and in the next year being terrible. It's complex but the mainly reasons for that is the fact that we're always seeling our best players to europe, arabic league and others parts around the world and bad management of the directors
That it's not true anymore, since Flamengo and Palmeiras are totally dominating the scenario since 2016 to these days. Eventually one or other team wins something, but it's nothing compared to the other 2.
you did not mention that Grêmio revealed Ronaldinho to the world, and now Gustavo Nunes is a big wonderkid who is being scouted by Man City and Man Utd
It's hard not to call Palmeiras the Brazilian ManCity, considering their run since 2015, but even before that they were already the team with the most national titles
Thanks for this video and I have some things to say. At 4:29 when start talking about Fluminense the Bragantino's shield appeared again. At 9:00 when was talking about Vasco da Gama the video showed Cruzeiro's supporters
south american football is really different to european's, but it's still a really competitive league with a decent level. As a brazilian I'm sad with how bad CBF is with marketing our league to the outside and you guys have to watch some guide in youtube to follow the league
as a fanatic São Paulo fan, i can say that we are the only club to win 3 times against european clubs in the Clubs World Cup (1992 against Barça, 1993 against Milan and 2005 against Liverpool). the last few years were rough because of bad club presidents, but since winning the Brazillian Cup last year, the stakes are starting to increase again, and even if no one start to support us, the history of the next 2 to 3 seasons should make us a pretty fun team to watch! and yeah, if you support a european team, you probably had a player or two from our youth teams playing for your team too haha and just to end this post, the bad years, that usually mean that your supporters are not going to the games anymore, made our supporters even more passionate, and now we are the most passionate and loudest supporters in Brazil!
Great vídeo. As a Brazilian, I think you should look at lower tier championships as well, a lot of big teams have figured in those, and also the Copa do Nordeste, a Championship with the biggest clubs in teu North-East of the country, that are historically poorer and without many resoirces as the southesmast and south ones, as you can see in the Série A map, only Fortaleza and Bahia from the second largest region of the country are there. The Copa do Nordeste is the second largest national cup behind the Copa do Brasil
Fortaleza isnt that small in terms of Fanbase, whiel the club has not won many nationa titles, Fortaleza (the city) is the 4th biggest city in Brazil and the fans fill the 60k stadium many times a year
Fortaleza the MUNICIPALITY is the 4th biggest in Brazil. The term CITY in English is not the same as municipality. A city can go beyond municipal borders in English and the term also wouldn´t include rural areas that usually exist in municipal borders.
Internacional fan here. Thank you alot for making this video showing our league and teams, there are alot of amazing teams in brazil but Internacional is my favorite, we won the 1979 brasileirão UNDEFEATED, and in 2006 we won the Club World Cup against the Barcelona that had Ronaldinho, Zambrotta, Iniesta, Xavi, and many other great players. Again, thanks for making this video showing our league and the teams here. ❤🇦🇹💪
Btw if you see this, i’d really love you make a video dedicated to Internacional, i just found out about your channel and im loving it man, keep it up ❤💪
I still wish we could have seen an Internacional Vs Internazionale final in 2010. The fact that Inter became World Champion without having to face the Libertadores Winners felt lacklustre
This year was horrible to be a Flamengo fan. The team lost everything they played for and with some humiliating defeats (for example, the Club World Cup). To make matters worse, among its rivals, Botafogo was almost Brazilian champion, Fluminense won the Libertadores (Fluminense was mocked for not having that title), Palmeiras, who had been competing for titles with Flamengo, won the Brasileirão, and even Vasco , generally mocked by Flamengo fans due to his tendency to be demoted, was not demoted.
São Paulo supporter here! Cool video who shows shortly some teams from the Brazilian League. I think there are far more clubs outside the biggest cities which had nice histories and could get good videos, like rivalties, championships and so on. I hope brazilian clubs have more international titles in the next years like it was in past decades. About my team, I never was a huge fan of football/soccer but always support São Paulo. The Morumbi Stadium is from 50's and one of the biggest stadiums in Brazil, with lots of concerts too (even is quite unmodern for this today). And also, São Paulo has the goalkeeper with most goals in history, my idol Rogério Ceni - who score more than 100 goals in almost 20 years in the club, and also played in 2002 brazilian team, 5th time champion. Actually, SPFC revealed more well known players such as Cafu, Kaka, and many others. I also appreciate the history of my team and they are doing many actions gloryfing the diversity of its fanbase and positioning against injuries, racist, sexist and other crimes even outside its supoorters. Fun fact: the two red stars refers to a former olympic athlete as "Diamante Negro" (Black Diamond), and the three others came from world champion titles (1992, 1993 and 2005 - the International Cups worths as mondial titles too and there are more brazilian world champions, stop this bullshit of just Fifa's do). In short: São Paulo is a true club who valorizes its history and their supporters and I'm happy being a non-fanactic but lover "sãopaulino"! 🟥⬜⬛
Theres 2 important thing about the 'no relegated clubs', they both used of dirty strategy (and we cannot prove, but all evidences let us believe that it was corruption scheeme) to not get relegated Its very controversal
São Paulo Actually have 3 world club titles (1992 against Barcelona, 1993 against Milan and 2005 against Liverpool. FIFA RECGONIZE IT). Also, we have World class players such as James rodriguez and Lucas Moura, and definitely future stars for the brazilian national team (Pablo maia and Beraldo, already at PSG)
A FIFA não reconhece como uma Copa do Mundo de clubes como ele falou no vídeo. Ela reconhece que são títulos de caráter mundial, mas nunca unificou os títulos com a mundial atual como a CBF fez com os brasileiros pré-1971. Para os Europeus, são duas competições diferentes.
@@felipemendes5336Ignorância o que? o cara pega um campeão da Champions, que no caso seria o melhor time da Europa, e o campeão da Libertadores no caso o melhor time América do Sul, principais continentes no futebol e eles se enfrentam, não considerar um torneio mundial mostra que você ou e Corinthiano ou Colorado
Palmeiras been compared with Man City is quite absurd. Palmeiras is the greatest Brazilian team (more titles compared with any other)… in the past and in the present
Yeah, a lot of people thinks this, but as a Vasco da Gama fan, i can admit that Palmeiras is the third or fourth place on the biggest teams of Brazil. ⬛⬜🟥🤝🏻🐷💚
Great video! Love that you’re making the brazilian league (the most entertaining in the world) better known outside of South America. Just a few remarks: the old Toyota Intercontinental Cup, which happened every year in Japan with the current Libertadores champion facing the Champions League champion is also considered a World Club Cup! That being said, that makes São Paulo 3x times world champion, Santos and Corinthians 2x world champion and Grêmio, Internacional and Flamengo one time world champion. If you want to research you can easily find these old games on the internet to watch. Would recommend watching SP x Barcelona (the legendary Cruyff squad) and SP x Milan (another legendary team), both during the 90s. São Paulo was led by Telê Santana, one of football’s greatest ever coaches! The team was legendary.
Hey, im brazilian and a Grêmio fan since i as born, if you have any questions about Grêmio or the scenario in it self, hit me up, your videos are awsome
Nice video man...Congrats... I'm brazilian and support Athlético Paranaense and I invite everyone looking for a Brazilian club to support to learn about the history and structure of El Paranaense, or " O Furacão das Américas" (the Hurricane of the Americas)...
Santos supporter here. Santos is the biggest brazillian team ever, not only because of Pelé but also the titles and achieves, Santos is the most goal scorer in the world so far. Unfortunately the last presidents just ended with this giant team, but we have hope to return to be what we are used to.
As a Brazillian, Brasileirão is one of the most disputed leagues in all world. If any foreigner have the opportunity of watching it, give it a try. It's pretty worth it!
Brasileirão has been growing significantly in the recent years. In 2024, it reached the highest level of investments ever recorded. Maybe it could take some time, but eventually we'll compete with european leagues. Nós tamo chegando, Europinha. Te liga!
Flamengo not only has "one of the biggest fanbases located in Rio", but actually the biggest fanbase in Brazil with a large distance to the 2nd place. A recent research, from april/23, has stated that the club has about 22% of the country's population as their fans, while Corinthians, 2nd place, has a little bit more than 14%. The number of supporters is close to 47 million, making it also one of (if not the) biggest fanbases in the world, this without considering brazilians and fans from other nationalities living abroad. Brazilian football crowd researches have been made by reliable institutes since the 90s, and Flamengo has been the number one in every single one of them. The supporters are known as "Nação Rubro Negra" (Red and Black Nation), and have been refered as that at least since the 50s. As a matter of fact, in 1927 it was organized the first football popularity contest (not a research but still very relevant), called "Copa Salutaris", which Flamengo won and received another of it's nicknames because of it, "O Mais Querido", meaning "The Most Beloved".
Let me ask, I am a factory worker who lives in Southeast Asia, I am 22 years old, my position is as a striker, is it possible to play in the Brazilian League? Am I late? It's okay to play in a weak club, the important thing is to be able to play in the Brazilian league.
It is very rare a Brazilian Club hire a Asian Player, the only one I remember that played here was a Chinese Player Called Zhizhao and the Japanese Honda.
One thing that you should know of Palmeiras and São Paulo is that they are the most traditional brazillian teams internationally, cuz Palmeiras have 6 finals in Libertadores and have 3 cup of this tournament, they also could make the best group stage of the history in the all South America, and São Paulo also have 6 finals in this tournament and it won 3 Libertadores.
Fun fact about Palmeiras: A player of this team called "Ari Mantovany" have made 2 olympic goals in just one match, and bcause of this, he's in Guinness World Records.
Hello, it would be interesting if you also made a video among the top 20 greatest Brazilian football classics. The first is Remo x Paysandu, with around 770 games, and Paysandu moved up to series B while Remo will continue in Series C.
As you correctly did, it's true to say that São Paulo would be the first champions of every single possible existing trophy in case the club wins the Brazilian Supercup. However, there's a very relevant missing fact in that sentence: Flamengo are already champions of everything, as winner of rebranded trophies. The Rio side has been champions of: World (1981 Intercontinental Cup), South-American first tier (3x Libertadores), second tier (Mercosul 1999) and supercup (Recopa 2020), Brazilian league (8x), cup (4x) and supercup (2x). Besides Flamengo, there are other clubs that come really close on being champions of everything: Internacional, Santos and São Paulo (as mentioned before), only missing the brazilian supercup, Atlético Mineiro, Cruzeiro and Palmeiras, missing the world title and Grêmio, missing the south american 2nd tier title.
OBS: As you can see, I counted Flamengo as 8 times brazilian champions, as winners of 1980, 1982, 1983, 1987, 1992, 2009, 2019 and 2020. The video says 7 time champions, but shows a table of biggest winners that count all the 8 wins. This is because of the polemic 1987 edition, that had 2 different leagues with 2 different winners (Flamengo and Sport Recife). To keep it short, what basicly happened in that year was that the Brazilian Confederation (CBF) gave up on the organization of that edition of the Brazilian League, which led to it being organized by the Clube dos 13 (the 12 big clubs + Bahia), that picked 16 clubs to play in the competition. Since the beginning, CBF was always getting in the way of these clubs, first with an intervention in the issue of what teams should play in the league, and then with a change of plans and the decision to organize another league with the teams that were not taking part in the competition. First, this 2nd league was seen as the inferior division, but later on, CBF would demand a crossing between 1st and 2nd place between the two leagues, which was refused by the organizing clubs. The competitions were played as they should, Flamengo has beaten Internacional in the clubs competition and Sport won against Guarani in the CBF league. Later on, the demanded crossing happened without Flamengo and Inter, which decided to boycott in agreement with the other big teams, and Sport and Guarani played alone, with Sport winning. To this day, the issue is still very controversial. An interesting curiosity is that the Flamengo's team that played in that year is considered by some as the best starting 11 in the club's all time history, beating the 1981 and 2019 teams. It had players such as Zico, Leandro and Andrade (world winners for Flamengo in 1981), Jorginho, Aldair, Leonardo, Zinho and Bebeto (world winners for Brazil in 1994) and Renato Gaúcho, Edinho and Zé Carlos (some of the best brazilian players of the 1980s).
@@pedrejaBeing champion of everything refers to everything they competed in, Flamengo never won the South American championship, so it is not considered, in fact, the same thing happens with Inter, they played in the second division and did not win.
@@carlosleao233 This is also true for São Paulo. The club played in every edition of the Copa Mercosul and Copa Ouro, and never got to win neither of them. They also took part in the CBF Copa dos Campeões and couldn't win it. This 3 competitions, as well as the Supercopa Libertadores (which if I understood correctly, you have mentioned in your comment) doesn't exist anymore, so it's impossible to win them. This puts São Paulo in the exact same situation as Flamengo.
In fact, I believe this situation applies for every single club in Brazil. Specially considering that in the 90s and early 2000s, there were competitions being borned and extinguished in a yearly basis, almost every single club took part in a competition that doesn't exists anymore and they couldn't win it at the time. So being champions of every single competition you ever played would be impossible. At the same time, it's possible to win everything in all measures: World, Continent (level 1, 2 and supercup) and National (League, Cup and supercup). This, of course, considering old and rebranded competitions that represent the same thing.
You had a lot of editing f ups this video. The most egregious were Bragantino’s shield being shown instead of Fluminense’s and Cruzeiro fans and b roll being showed instead of Vasco da Gama ones. I know you are new to this but those are some pretty amateurish mistakes
I will give here a Brazillian (and biased, I confess) perspective: Palmeiras: just don't support this club. (kidding (kind not kidding), I'm a Corinthians fan, the biggest rival...) Palmeiras is a club that takes pride in its Italian origins. It was founded by Italians and descendants in the early 1900s (it was called "Palestra Italia" at the time, their new stadium adopted this name), and it was very successful. in modern history (since 1978, when the current Brazillian league started), they had big phases with big sponsorships, 93/94 with Parmalat and nowadays with Crefisa. it's not like Man City because sponsorship is not ownership. the last league was kind of a surprise because Botafogo was dominating and flopped... Former players you may know: are Endrick and Gab Jesus. Grêmio: a very traditional club, with the craziest games you can imagine, including one against Inter (their biggest rival) in the 2020 Libertadores the game ended with just 8 players on each side and the "Batalha dos aflitos" that is too crazy to explain in words, google it. their fans are heavily located in the south of Brazil (in all 3 states) and some specific cities in other regions for migration reasons. it's known for its spirit of battle and success in cups. the kind of club that their supporters expect to see the blood of their players (google "Hugo de Leon grêmio" and look at the images, you'll understand) Former players you may know: Ronaldinho and Douglas Costa. Atlético Mineiro: since the last decade it has built some surprisingly good teams, and with even more surprising consistency. because the clubs outside the states of São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro ("Mineiro" means from the state of Minas Gerais) don't have the supporters (in terms of numbers) that these states have, so they don't have the money the Rio-São Paulo clubs have. and even excluding Rio-São Paulo, AM was still behind, until the last decade, clubs like Gremio and Inter. but now they are a force to be reckoned with. Former players you may know: Bremmer and Bernard. Flamengo: Don't support them. (kidding, again, I'm biased) They have the biggest fan base in Brazil, one of the biggest in the world. and because of that they survived with a lot of good teams even with a mess of directors. recently they have become much more organized and gained a lot of strength. and they sold Vini Jr, Rodrygo, and Lucas Paqueta for a ton of money, which facilitated even more their life. they don't own the Maracanã (it belongs to the state of Rio de Janeiro), but they play there. one of the teams with more history in Brazil, and have a lot of the media's attention (some say that too much attention). Former players you may know: Vini Junior, Rodrygo, Zico, Adriano Imperador, and Romário. (to be continued...)
Fun fact from Internacional. In 2006 they won the world cup of clubs against Barcelona from Ronaldinho, Iniesta, Deco and many other legends. The goalscorer from Internacional, Adriano Gabiru wasn't a player from the main team and his career only plummeted down after that game.
Atlético MG the 3rd this season is from Belo Horizonte, Minas Gerais (it is another state that is part of the south east, but it is not close to São Paulo city)
atlético mineiro is not located in sao paulo, they’re from belo horizonte and they did NOT win the supercup in 2014, in fact, the supercup was last played in 1991 until it came back in 2019
Palmeiras 🐷 💚 The Best! Champions in 1960 1967 1967* 1969 1972 1973 1993 1994 2016 2018 2022 2023 *in 67 two championships happened, and Palmeiras won both 💚🐷
Palmeiras is the most successful brazilian club in the copa libertadores (continental stage) and the most successful nationally, the only fair comparison between man city and palmeiras is that both are dominant in this past decade. Palmeiras is much bigger in history than Man City
Some facts: Just Flamengo and São Paulo never got relegated, Santos was in 2023. The brasileirao first edition was in 1971, but recently CBF (brazilian federation) validated some older tournaments as brasileirao titles, some teams gained nationals title because of this, Palmeiras and Santos are ones of them but Palmeiras and Flamengo have been the dominating ones the past 5 seasons. Flamengo has the biggest number of supporters not only in Rio but in Brazil: Flamengo - Corinthians - São Paulo - Palmeiras, the 4 with more supporters. Cruzeiro went bankrupt and was relegated, then Ronaldo bought the team for the same amout of Money Real paid for Endrick lmao. But they went from 2 national titles in 2013-2014 to Serie B in 8 years, crazy things. Fortaleza is not in the big 12 but they are really big in their state and region. Tey had the 8° biggest average attendence in the season ahead of teams like Atletico MG - Atletico PR - Internacional - Cruzeiro - Vasco and Botafogo, only Vasco cannot have a higher average attendence due to the size of the stadium.
Bahia and Fortaleza are actually from the northeast region of Brazil, which has a lot less money to work with than any other club from the southeast where Rio, São Paulo, and Minas Gerais are localized. Just to play in the 1st division is already an achievement.
The Brazilian championship is very competitive, but it is still far from perfect. But the passion for our team will make us want to continue watching and rooting for the championship to evolve 😂
Hey man love your video but as a Fluminense fan you put the wrong image when talking about us on 4:31, You used Bragantino's logo. And when you talked about Vasco de Gama. You used footage from the Cruzeiro's fans and stadiums.
We consider many teams giants, tallers and smallers, so many people consider this tier list as the correct size: 1° São Paulo 2° Santos 3° Palmeiras/Flamengo (yes, they have so similar sizes) 4° Grêmio 5° Corinthians 6° Cruzeiro 7° Internacional 8° Vasco 9° Atlético MG 10° Fluminense
Before getting to know any Brazilian club, get to know the history of the most Brazilian of them, Corithians, the only two-time FIFA World Cup with more than 33 million fans who are madly in love, and that's why we call ourselves a "BUNCH OF CRAZIES" GO CORINTHIANS. VAI CORINTHIANS CARALHOOOOOOO
Some errors in the video: - Palmeiras does not have 12 Brasileirão titles; - Atlético Mineiro is a team from Belo Horizonte, in the state of Minas Gerais; - Only 2 teams have never been relegated in history (Flamengo and São Paulo), not 3; - The symbol shown as Fluminense's is incorrect; - Fortaleza is not nationally relevant in Brazil, although it is restructuring; - The first Brazilian team to win all possible trophies was Internacional, not São Paulo; - The two world titles of Corinthians were not mentioned, the last Brazilian team to become world champion (2012); - The great rivalry between Cruzeiro and Atlético Mineiro was not mentioned, which is similar but smaller than that of Grêmio and Internacional; - Santos does not have eight Brazilian titles.
Gremio is the King of Cups in Brazil, being the most successful Cup winner in the country with 1 Club World Cup, 3 Libertadores (most in BR), 5 Brazilian Cups (2nd most), 2 American Supercups (most in BR), and 1 Brazilian Supercup, totaling 12 cup wins, more than any other brazilian team. Also, its the only of the 5 teams tied with most Libertadores titles in Brazil that have won their 3 titles with 3 different squads. Palmeiras, Sao Paulo, Santos and Flamengo have all won back-to-back titles with the same winning squad of the year prior. And its the team with most seasons in the Brazilian top division (48). Sad that foreigners have started learning about brazilian football right when Gremio came back from relegation, as it seems some that havent done too much research think its a common occurance. Suarez is a legend, but Gremio is far from being dependent on him or any other player. If you dont remember, they are Ronaldinho's first team. And even he is not of great relevance compared to the club's history.
The Brazilian League is probably the best league out of Europe, the teams, the fans, the stadiums, the atmosphere, everything is great in this League, thanks for also talking about all the teams and also talking about my team, Flamengo Also, just to say, Flamengo according to a lot of people and even CBF is actually 8 times a league champion, although this thing of them having 7 or 8 comes from the fact that the 1987 championship was a complete mess, to this day, Flamengo and Sport Recife fight for the title of that year in court, rivals say they have 7 and Sport has 1, fans say Flamengo has 8 and some people say that they both won the league that year, it's a pretty confusing story and it's still a debate around here Another thing, this time about Bragantino, it's sad and annoying they got bought by Red Bull, but honestly, it's impossible not to look at their history, in São Paulo they are so traditional and big, and they've also been runner-up of the league against São Paulo in 1991, its sad that they became a corporate and soulless club, but saying they have absolutely no tradition is a bit too much Sorry for making this comment this long, it's just that I really have a big connection to this league and it's usually hard to see someone talk about it
In 1987 Flamengo won the proper championship while Sport won the second division. That year was a huge mess that actually started in the year before but to simplify, the Clube dos 13 (a recently at the time formed organization with the biggest clubs in the country back then) were told by CBF they had to do the championship themselves if they wanted any championship to happen, since CBF claimed to have no money. The tournament was supposed to have different modules representing the different divisions, with Flamengo being in the equivalent to the first and Sport the equivalent to the second. Close to the beginning of it all, CBF wanted to snatch it back and do it their own way with a final group stage with the champions and runner ups of the first and srcond division modules (Flamengo and Internacional, Sport and Guarani). During a meeting with representatives from CBF, Eurico Miranda (Vasco president and representative of Clube dos 13) was supposed to enforce the Clube's wish to keep it w/o the group stage at the end, but was pressured to accept the new rules and signed it, making it pretty much a betrayal. The teams from Clube dos 13 kept their wish to not change the rules and that pretty much made the tournament divided between the modules, to a point where Copa União (Clube dos 13 and first division) and the second division from CBF weren't even broadcasted by the same TV channels. At the end, Flamengo and Internacional made the finals of the Copa União but refused to play at the final group stage, with only Sport and Guarani being a part of it, which Sport won. Flamengo won a legit title, but Sport had a signed document with the rule changes on their side so legally, they are also winners. At the end of the day, you can't say either of them is the sole winner, but everyone that is not a Flamengo supporter claims Sport won just out of spite, and Flamengo supporters claim it's ours as a responsez but the whole discussion is unnecessary and asinine, if only CBF actually had the balls to properly share the title between both to end the discussion, considering shared titles happened a fair amount in our history. Sorry for the long post no one is gonna read lmao
TL;DR: the 86 championship was mess that went over to 87, CBF claimed to be broke, gave the rights to organize a championship to the clubs, than wanted it back, tried to change everything, Eurico Miranda betrayed the league, Flamengo won the proper tournament, Sport won in court
9:09 you gave wrong information.... Like where did you get your info??? The last major trophy for cruzeiro was in 2018 (Copa do Brasil). In 2022 they won Série B.
The Fluminense logo is wrong in 4:31. Also, when you showed The League and Cup pictures for Atletico Mineiro you swapped the photos :) nice video overall though!
sorry for the cut around the 7 1/2 minute mark. Some copyrighted content was found so we had to just cut it out. 😞
Now only two teams haven't been relegated. Santos was one of them.
edit: Botafogo has a small fan base like ~2% (Top5. Flamengo ~22% Corinthians ~14%, São Paulo ~10%, Palmeiras ~7,7%, Vasco ~6,2%)
VASCO DA GAMA.
@@Opinionatorr i mean, technically cuiabá hasn't been relegated either, although they have only like 4 seasons in first division
@@bearvoyager1 When we use the word "relegated" we actualy mean teams that never played the lower divisions.
@@Opinionatorr yeah i don't think they "count" in the same sense as flamengo and são paulo, it was just a technicality anyway (and i thought perhaps the op was counting them since santos went down, idk)
@@Opinionatorr they've actually never been relegated in any of the lower divisions
The brazilian SEASON starts in January and ends in December.
The Brazilian LEAGUE starts in late April or early May.
But for several months before that, clubs are playing the State Leagues, Libertadores, etc
The reason is that being almost entirely in the southern hemisphere, summer is december to march and winter from june to september.
Summer vacations therefore are usually in january. The southern hemisphere schools ALSO follow that same season pattern.
True
Interesting how different it is.
i love brasileirao, this is the most underrated and expression league in the world
everyone talking about the Big teams, which i'm not against of, but
We also have a Lot of underdogs usually! RedBull Bragantino (AND ITS NOT JUST ANOTHER CLUB THAT RED BULL BOUGHT!), Cuiabá and even Bahia, which are part of the City Group!
The reason for the existence of the Big 12 is because, until the 1960s, there was no national championship in Brazil, due to the large territorial extension and difficulty in moving teams around. Therefore, each Brazilian state had its own state championship. Each state had its 2 or 4 big clubs and, after the creation of the national championship in 1959, these big clubs also stood out on the national scene.
Although there are 27 states in Brazil, only teams from the 4 most economically and politically important states stood out, they are:
São Paulo (state): São Paulo, Corinthians, Santos and Palmeiras;
Rio de Janeiro (state): Flamengo, Fluminense, Vasco da Gama and Botafogo;
Minas Gerais: Cruzeiro and Atlético Mineiro;
Rio Grande do Sul: Grêmio and Internacional.
As the national championship has 20 teams, other forces that regularly appear and stand out are teams from the state of Paraná: Athletico Paranaense and Coritiba; and teams from the northeast region of Brazil: Bahia (from the state of Bahia); Sport Club Recife (from the state of Pernambuco); Fortaleza (in the state of Ceará), among others.
State championships still exist, but without the strength they had in another era. A large part of the media and public opinion is in favor of reducing or even eliminating these championships, because they take up a large part of the calendar (from January to April) and increase the number of games for each team in the season, increasing the number of injuries and player fatigue (in a regular season in Brazil, teams usually play up to 70 games), which is a lot compared to Europe.
Aí cê deu aula irmãozinho
Perfect explanation
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I'm a Vasco fan and there's a very important detail about the club, but not very well known, one of the reasons why they say the club has the most beautiful history in football. Just over a century ago, Brazilian football was exclusive to the elite and black people could not play for clubs, but Vasco da Gama, a popular team that had recently entered football, did not accept the bans from the Rio de Janeiro league ( football in Brazil at that time only had state competitions) and not only hired black players but was also the first of the Rio clubs to pay salaries to athletes (taking into account the financial condition of the players), this squad was champion by a wide margin, winning the title with ease. Because of this, their rivals (Flamengo, Botafogo, Fluminense), who were the main organizers of the state league, banned Vasco from playing in the championship, meaning the club was relegated. The presidents of the rivals claimed that the club could only return to the first division if it built a stadium (which was more difficult for the club as its majority fans were poorer), but Vasco fans not only joined together to finance the project but also participated in the construction of what was, at the time, the largest stadium in South America, so that Vasco da Gama would return to the first division and become one of the 4 big clubs in the state.
I am from Brazill, and your team hear is a joke HAHAHAHA
@@Juca_Maciel A joke is to support a r4cist team of origin. As it is in our music: What an honor to be, you know, I'm a Vasco fan, such a pleasure
Sai daí chorão, as outras 3 equipes tem culpa se teu timinho nasceu pra ser feito de chacota teu time e destinado a série B.
Vc nao passa de um neófito. O tempo sempre trás reviravoltas.@@Enzodasnovenhas-xj2bu
Dito isso, Flamengo 6 x 1 Vasco - Maracanã (02/06/2024)
You can't really call Palmeiras the brazilian Man City, they were always HUGE, unlike city, the fun part of Brazilian football is that there are 10+ clubs that are huge and have a lot of tradition.
That's true, Palmeiras has 109 years of a victorious history.
City was a mid club back then lol
@@KartingRules3rd division
@@filipevaz5435 only for a year tho
Right? Not even a Corinthians fan would say Palmeiras is like City lol. The closest thing to City we have is Athletico-PR, except they got bigger by themselves, instead of oil money
Been a longtime football fan since I was a kid, I at least heard of these teams, specifically for the reason you mentioned (with so many legends coming from Brazil, knowing the team they played for makes sense). To me, the mere existence of the Big 12 shows that this league can be well balanced and unpredictable. Usually, European leagues have a group of 3 teams who have dominated it: Italy (Juventus, AC Milan and Inter), Portugal (Sporting, Porto and Benfica), Turkey (Galatasaray, Fenerbahce and Besiktas) the Netherlands (Ajax, PSV and Feyenoord) and so on. Some leagues even only have two, like Scotland (Celtic and Rangers) and Spain (Real Madrid and Barcelona, although Atletico *could* be considered the third bigget one).
But here, the list of "big teams that have dominated the League together" could even cover more than half of it, meaning that you could have the whole top half fighting for a trophy. I can't even fathom the idea of a league with *a dozen* title contenders.
What also is interesting is that this league might even change mid-season, since the European Summer transfer window happens right through it, so you might even see teams performing well, only for them to lose their biggest stars and plummet.
If you think further brazil has 27 states and just 8 were represented last season so the league has so much more potencial
Its more because Brazil has continental size. Brazil has the same popualtion as Spain, France, Italy and England combined.
@@NerdChannelBrasil yeah
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@@arturgabriel5845most if teams of the other states are in the lower divisions. But some of them (like Amapá's, Acre's, etc.) Teams are almost amateur
A few corrections, here in Brazil, we also consider the old intercontinental cup as a club world cup since it was disputed between the UCL champion and the Libertadores champion. So for most brazilians, Sao Paulo has 3 world titles, Santos and Corinthians have 2, Gremio and Flamengo have 1.
We really care about the states tournaments. For us, it's a great chance to beat our local rivals and win a cup. If you are interested, I recommend watching the Paulista, Carioca, and Gaucho tournament at the beginning of the year.
Just like europe, each club has it own history outside of the pitch. I reccomend to learn a little bit about the history and the vibe of the team you will support before choosing it.
Last, football is a huge thing in brazil. Everybody supports a team here, even the people who don't care about football. So once you choose a team and present yourself has a supporter, you are locked to it, it doesn't matter if the team is performing well or if it was relegated, for us changing your team is a huge shame.
Actually, the state championships part is no longer true. Ofc they hold historical value and were the most important tournaments back until like the 60s or 70s, but nowadays they just feel like an unnecessary chore for the bigger clubs, specially when it makes the calendar so awfully full and not allowing for a proper preseason. Sure smaller teams still find some relevance to it, but for the most part they need to be completely overhauled because ain't no fucking way you can tell me we still need state championships lasting for 3 months for everyone when that forces us continue the championship during Copa America...
@@brushark9090 many people says that, but if my team wins a state cup and don't win any other major trophies, this state title could save the season. And tbh, win some state championships in a row is a great achievement for the club.
We dont consider. Copa Toyota isnt mundial
I'm Italian, and we do still consider that as a World Cup. Nobody bats an eyes when they mention that Juventus is a World Champion (won it in 1985 and 1996)@@cqr4399
@@cqr4399 your trash ass opinion dosen't matter you can't even write in english Flamengo, SP, Santos and Gremio world champs acordding to fifa so stfu
Nice to see foreigners taking the time to learn about our league, keep up the good work
europeans: south american football is so bad!
also europeans: *buys all of our players*
os cara jogam em um clima que nem é frio e nem se desgastam ,
Thanks for making this, I've been trying to get into this league but I've found it hard without a good video to explain it, thanks!
Fluminense fans are very proud of their youth system, that has formed several historical players such as Marcelo (Real Madrid) and Thiago Silva (Chelsea)
As a Fluminense fan I am not proud at all to see our best young players moving to other clubs. They should stay here and win titles for our club, I couldn't care less if Marcelo or Thiago Silva won 10 Champions League titles for Real Madrid or Chelsea to me and the other true Fluminense fans the most important for us would be seeing them play for our club and Win our League or Libertadores titles here with our colors and not some european club that we will never attend a match.
@@car105day5 unfortunately, the selling politics are awful for us and our jewels are sold by "banana price", but recently it is apearing to change. at worse, Xerém keep us on the top every season
YES!!! Im a Tricolor from and im a huge fluminense fan and i cannot be more proud of not only the youth system but the main squad as well!
@@car105day5 Agreed, but at least Marcelo came back and helped win the Libertadores, along with current "youth system" like André, Martinelli and John Kennedy.
Actually, the reason why the Brazilian League starts in May and ends in December is not because of "hot temperatures" but because the clubs compete in regional leagues from February to April.
Brazil is too big, so each state holds a championship. For example: Flamengo, Fluminense, Vasco da Gama and Botafogo are from the state of Rio de Janeiro, so they compete in the 'Campeonato Carioca', as well as smaller clubs from the same state.
Hey man nice of you to clear it out. I was trying to learn how many competitions are there in a Brazilian season.
Correct me if I'm wrong, I figured out regionally there are State leagues, State cups
Nationally there are Serie A and Taca do Brasil
And continentally there is Copa Libertadores
@@Random_Internet_Surferthere is the state league that holds a tournament phase with point system and the best ones go to the play-off phase which they hold semi-final and final but there is not a state cup.
In the Northeast region of Brazil there is a league called 'Copa do Nordeste' which is made up by clubs from states from that region such as Bahia, Ceará, Pernambuco, etc. In the past we had more regional leagues such as 'Rio-São Paulo' and 'Primeira Liga'.
At national level, there is the Brazilian League and Brazilian Cup and their respective Supercups.
At continental level we have the Copa Libertadores (similar to UEFA Champions League) and Copa Sul-americana (similar to Europa League). We also have their respective Supercups. In the past we had another one called 'Copa Mercosul'.
@@victorguitarrista okay I was going through Flumineses season, they won the league phase which is called Taca Guanabara and finally won Campeonato Cairoca
I thought they’re two different titles
@@Random_Internet_SurferIn the Rio championship there is a table of 11 teams, where everyone faces each other once and in the end the 4 first placed teams qualify for the knockout stage, and the first placed team receives the Guanabara cup and some advantages, and then whoever wins gets the Rio championship
@@FlaRoloCompressor So basically for the same competition there are two titles?
As a Brazilian, i appreciate the effort to bring our top flight football to Europe and, as a way to enhance the video i´ll be glad to give some considerations, of not trying to criticise in a bad way:
Atlético Mineiro is located in Belo Horizonte, as opposed to what was said at 2:22
Flamengo is a 7-times champion of Serie A, butsome might say the team has 8 titles, due to a controversial 1987 season (long story short: the big teams clashed interests with CBD, nowadays CBF, and the championship was a mess)
Also Flamengo not only has the biggest fan base in Rio, as they are the most popular team in Brazil (generally speaking)
Bragantino has a deep history in the São Paulo State championship, but it´s still overshadowed by the Red Bull takeover
Fortaleza, like Bragantino, has a rich history in not only their State Champioship, but also in the Northeast region, commonly referred as one of the biggest of the Northeast, but is overshadowed by their underperformance in Serie A
Cruzeiro´s campaign, although not particularly strong, is a good foundation for the future, as the team will compete a continental competition next year in a stunning resurrection since R9´s takeover (and I myself am a Cruzeiro supporter)
Other teams not mentioned, América-MG, Goiás and Coritiba have been yo-yo clubs in Serie A for the last decade, but have great significance in their respective states, carrying loads of history themselves.
And that's it, i appreciate you video and thank you for the recognization that you bring to our football to the "outsiders"
Well done Cruzeiro's suporter.
Boa garoto, cabuloso neles kkk.
O cara fez um bom esforço, mas faltou muito contexto dos times
Bragantino, vice brasileiro de 91 ser chamado de fake club e time de energético é sacanagem...
A fun fact about internacional, they are the only team in brazil to win brazilian league without losing a single match
lol, check how many matches were played that season and against who Internacional played.
The league was almost CUP format back then.
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As an Internacional fan, in 2006 we actually won against Barcelona for the Club world cup final.
That Barcelona team had Ronaldinho, Zambrotta, Iniesta, Xavi, and some other players.
Btw, that time we won the league undefeated without losing a single match was in 1979 with an unstoppable team, Paulo Roberto Falcão, Figueroa, and some others.
After this they never won a Brasileirao again in their history
And they have losted the semifinals of LIBERTADORES cup in home for 2 a 1 taking the 2 goals in the last 5 minutes against Fluminense
A good point to show for everyone who's interested on Brazil local soccer it is:
Here we have "short cicles", it's very commom to see a club winning everything in a year and in the next year being terrible. It's complex but the mainly reasons for that is the fact that we're always seeling our best players to europe, arabic league and others parts around the world and bad management of the directors
That it's not true anymore, since Flamengo and Palmeiras are totally dominating the scenario since 2016 to these days. Eventually one or other team wins something, but it's nothing compared to the other 2.
you did not mention that Grêmio revealed Ronaldinho to the world, and now Gustavo Nunes is a big wonderkid who is being scouted by Man City and Man Utd
its so good to see some foreigners learning brazilian football
It's hard not to call Palmeiras the Brazilian ManCity, considering their run since 2015, but even before that they were already the team with the most national titles
Because CBF gave them a bunch of ancient titles that are not Brasileirao, same with Santos.
@@NerdChannelBrasil if you really think so, reply to this comment with "Pelé has never won the Brazilian league".
@@jorgeabud1133 That time the states tournaments were bigger than the national... National titles were disputed between 6 time at the time.
I agree with you
Agreed
just remember that even after round 30 there were still 6 teams with a good chance of winning the title
Thanks for this video and I have some things to say.
At 4:29 when start talking about Fluminense the Bragantino's shield appeared again.
At 9:00 when was talking about Vasco da Gama the video showed Cruzeiro's supporters
A fun fact about Atletico Mineiro, they are the only team in brazil to lost brazilian league without losing a single match, was in 1977.
south american football is really different to european's, but it's still a really competitive league with a decent level. As a brazilian I'm sad with how bad CBF is with marketing our league to the outside and you guys have to watch some guide in youtube to follow the league
as a fanatic São Paulo fan, i can say that we are the only club to win 3 times against european clubs in the Clubs World Cup (1992 against Barça, 1993 against Milan and 2005 against Liverpool). the last few years were rough because of bad club presidents, but since winning the Brazillian Cup last year, the stakes are starting to increase again, and even if no one start to support us, the history of the next 2 to 3 seasons should make us a pretty fun team to watch!
and yeah, if you support a european team, you probably had a player or two from our youth teams playing for your team too haha
and just to end this post, the bad years, that usually mean that your supporters are not going to the games anymore, made our supporters even more passionate, and now we are the most passionate and loudest supporters in Brazil!
also, Palmeiras had connections with italian fascism
Great vídeo. As a Brazilian, I think you should look at lower tier championships as well, a lot of big teams have figured in those, and also the Copa do Nordeste, a Championship with the biggest clubs in teu North-East of the country, that are historically poorer and without many resoirces as the southesmast and south ones, as you can see in the Série A map, only Fortaleza and Bahia from the second largest region of the country are there. The Copa do Nordeste is the second largest national cup behind the Copa do Brasil
2:20 Atletico Mineiro is from Belo Horizonte, not São Paulo
ah, your correct. I missed on that one. Thanks for watching though! 💪🏼
Cruzeiro maior fds
Atlético mineiro is from Vespasiano
Fortaleza isnt that small in terms of Fanbase, whiel the club has not won many nationa titles, Fortaleza (the city) is the 4th biggest city in Brazil and the fans fill the 60k stadium many times a year
@@Flu_1902FFC Do you mean by research or by membership?
In anyway Fortaleza is a Regional Power that must be not subestimated
Fortaleza the MUNICIPALITY is the 4th biggest in Brazil.
The term CITY in English is not the same as municipality.
A city can go beyond municipal borders in English and the term also wouldn´t include rural areas that usually exist in municipal borders.
Fun fact: Bahia is the first Brazilian club to participate in the libertadores.
Also the first to win the Brazilian League
1:27 This street, Rosário Church's neighborhood, is in Southeast Brazil. Not in South Brazil. The town is São João del-Rei, state of Minas Gerais.
Continue the good work man,loved the video
Internacional fan here.
Thank you alot for making this video showing our league and teams, there are alot of amazing teams in brazil but Internacional is my favorite, we won the 1979 brasileirão UNDEFEATED, and in 2006 we won the Club World Cup against the Barcelona that had Ronaldinho, Zambrotta, Iniesta, Xavi, and many other great players.
Again, thanks for making this video showing our league and the teams here. ❤🇦🇹💪
Btw if you see this, i’d really love you make a video dedicated to Internacional, i just found out about your channel and im loving it man, keep it up ❤💪
I still wish we could have seen an Internacional Vs Internazionale final in 2010. The fact that Inter became World Champion without having to face the Libertadores Winners felt lacklustre
You kinda need a guide to Brazilian Football yourself, but its a nice try in the right direction anyways, so keep going Man
Where can I find out some better info about Brazilian football?
This year was horrible to be a Flamengo fan. The team lost everything they played for and with some humiliating defeats (for example, the Club World Cup). To make matters worse, among its rivals, Botafogo was almost Brazilian champion, Fluminense won the Libertadores (Fluminense was mocked for not having that title), Palmeiras, who had been competing for titles with Flamengo, won the Brasileirão, and even Vasco , generally mocked by Flamengo fans due to his tendency to be demoted, was not demoted.
Pelo menos a temporada não foi igual a do bbbbasquinho, lutando pra não cair.
I hope every Flamengo year is as bad or worse as this one from now on. 🙏
Fluminense best club in RJ
I personally prefer that botafogo had won and not palmeiras, hate those guys hahaha
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VAMOS SÃO PAULO!!! 🇾🇪🇾🇪🇾🇪
São Paulo supporter here! Cool video who shows shortly some teams from the Brazilian League. I think there are far more clubs outside the biggest cities which had nice histories and could get good videos, like rivalties, championships and so on. I hope brazilian clubs have more international titles in the next years like it was in past decades.
About my team, I never was a huge fan of football/soccer but always support São Paulo. The Morumbi Stadium is from 50's and one of the biggest stadiums in Brazil, with lots of concerts too (even is quite unmodern for this today). And also, São Paulo has the goalkeeper with most goals in history, my idol Rogério Ceni - who score more than 100 goals in almost 20 years in the club, and also played in 2002 brazilian team, 5th time champion. Actually, SPFC revealed more well known players such as Cafu, Kaka, and many others.
I also appreciate the history of my team and they are doing many actions gloryfing the diversity of its fanbase and positioning against injuries, racist, sexist and other crimes even outside its supoorters. Fun fact: the two red stars refers to a former olympic athlete as "Diamante Negro" (Black Diamond), and the three others came from world champion titles (1992, 1993 and 2005 - the International Cups worths as mondial titles too and there are more brazilian world champions, stop this bullshit of just Fifa's do).
In short: São Paulo is a true club who valorizes its history and their supporters and I'm happy being a non-fanactic but lover "sãopaulino"! 🟥⬜⬛
Yo Kursat! São Paulo FC has just become the first brazilian club that has every trophy! We are Supercopa 2024 champions 🔴⚪️⚫️🏆
Where are the likes. this deserves wayy more
Theres 2 important thing about the 'no relegated clubs', they both used of dirty strategy (and we cannot prove, but all evidences let us believe that it was corruption scheeme) to not get relegated
Its very controversal
Remember kids, Palmeiras was the sole one capable of stopping Pelé (Santos)
My team played against fluminese in the Club world cup semis,and I can admit it was very hard we lost 2-0
Palmeiras is nothing like man city, Palmeiras have a rich history full of titles, unlike the artificial Manchester City.
São Paulo Actually have 3 world club titles (1992 against Barcelona, 1993 against Milan and 2005 against Liverpool. FIFA RECGONIZE IT). Also, we have World class players such as James rodriguez and Lucas Moura, and definitely future stars for the brazilian national team (Pablo maia and Beraldo, already at PSG)
A FIFA não reconhece como uma Copa do Mundo de clubes como ele falou no vídeo. Ela reconhece que são títulos de caráter mundial, mas nunca unificou os títulos com a mundial atual como a CBF fez com os brasileiros pré-1971. Para os Europeus, são duas competições diferentes.
Ignorância deveria ser um crime
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@@felipemendes5336Ignorância o que? o cara pega um campeão da Champions, que no caso seria o melhor time da Europa, e o campeão da Libertadores no caso o melhor time América do Sul, principais continentes no futebol e eles se enfrentam, não considerar um torneio mundial mostra que você ou e Corinthiano ou Colorado
Palmeiras been compared with Man City is quite absurd. Palmeiras is the greatest Brazilian team (more titles compared with any other)… in the past and in the present
Agree, this guy is sick
Yeah, a lot of people thinks this, but as a Vasco da Gama fan, i can admit that Palmeiras is the third or fourth place on the biggest teams of Brazil. ⬛⬜🟥🤝🏻🐷💚
Não dá pra comparar mesmo. De fato, City é campeão do mundo. Sem comparação mesmo.
@@UnbiasOPpalmeirense passa vergonha até em inglês.
you also displayed the bragantino shield while talking to fluminense and showed the fans of cruzeiro while talking about vasco
Thank you I hope you do the same for other non European leagues…
Or maybe even do a video for people new to football like me.
Great video! Love that you’re making the brazilian league (the most entertaining in the world) better known outside of South America. Just a few remarks: the old Toyota Intercontinental Cup, which happened every year in Japan with the current Libertadores champion facing the Champions League champion is also considered a World Club Cup! That being said, that makes São Paulo 3x times world champion, Santos and Corinthians 2x world champion and Grêmio, Internacional and Flamengo one time world champion. If you want to research you can easily find these old games on the internet to watch. Would recommend watching SP x Barcelona (the legendary Cruyff squad) and SP x Milan (another legendary team), both during the 90s. São Paulo was led by Telê Santana, one of football’s greatest ever coaches! The team was legendary.
que isso mané tirou o Flamengo na cara dura, campeão mundial em 81
@@pedreja crl mlk lesei! sabia que tinha esquecido algum kkkkkkk time do Fla em 81 era monstruoso!
Hey, im brazilian and a Grêmio fan since i as born, if you have any questions about Grêmio or the scenario in it self, hit me up, your videos are awsome
Nice video man...Congrats... I'm brazilian and support Athlético Paranaense and I invite everyone looking for a Brazilian club to support to learn about the history and structure of El Paranaense, or " O Furacão das Américas" (the Hurricane of the Americas)...
Santos supporter here. Santos is the biggest brazillian team ever, not only because of Pelé but also the titles and achieves, Santos is the most goal scorer in the world so far. Unfortunately the last presidents just ended with this giant team, but we have hope to return to be what we are used to.
Obs: Palmeiras não tem mundial rs
As a Brazillian, Brasileirão is one of the most disputed leagues in all world. If any foreigner have the opportunity of watching it, give it a try. It's pretty worth it!
Brasileirão has been growing significantly in the recent years. In 2024, it reached the highest level of investments ever recorded. Maybe it could take some time, but eventually we'll compete with european leagues. Nós tamo chegando, Europinha. Te liga!
Flamengo not only has "one of the biggest fanbases located in Rio", but actually the biggest fanbase in Brazil with a large distance to the 2nd place. A recent research, from april/23, has stated that the club has about 22% of the country's population as their fans, while Corinthians, 2nd place, has a little bit more than 14%. The number of supporters is close to 47 million, making it also one of (if not the) biggest fanbases in the world, this without considering brazilians and fans from other nationalities living abroad.
Brazilian football crowd researches have been made by reliable institutes since the 90s, and Flamengo has been the number one in every single one of them. The supporters are known as "Nação Rubro Negra" (Red and Black Nation), and have been refered as that at least since the 50s.
As a matter of fact, in 1927 it was organized the first football popularity contest (not a research but still very relevant), called "Copa Salutaris", which Flamengo won and received another of it's nicknames because of it, "O Mais Querido", meaning "The Most Beloved".
Let me ask, I am a factory worker who lives in Southeast Asia, I am 22 years old, my position is as a striker, is it possible to play in the Brazilian League? Am I late? It's okay to play in a weak club, the important thing is to be able to play in the Brazilian league.
It is very rare a Brazilian Club hire a Asian Player, the only one I remember that played here was a Chinese Player Called Zhizhao and the Japanese Honda.
Bro, the competition here is insanse lol. You'd had better chances becoming a professional in your country
One thing that you should know of Palmeiras and São Paulo is that they are the most traditional brazillian teams internationally, cuz Palmeiras have 6 finals in Libertadores and have 3 cup of this tournament, they also could make the best group stage of the history in the all South America, and São Paulo also have 6 finals in this tournament and it won 3 Libertadores.
Santos and Grêmio also have 3 libertadores titles. And they’re both world champions l, unlike palmeiras
4:30 you mistaken the Fluminense crest with brangantino (I don’t know if they are called crest in English… I’m Brazilian, sorry if I’m wrong)
Fun fact about Palmeiras: A player of this team called "Ari Mantovany" have made 2 olympic goals in just one match, and bcause of this, he's in Guinness World Records.
Nem eu que sou palmeirense sabia dessa. Curiosidade legal!
Saying Santos wont stay in Serie B for too long is just as wrong as saying you’re just supporting an Energy drink by rooting for Bragantino
Hello, it would be interesting if you also made a video among the top 20 greatest Brazilian football classics. The first is Remo x Paysandu, with around 770 games, and Paysandu moved up to series B while Remo will continue in Series C.
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payssandu bando de dá o cu
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@@ClaudioBastosturbo que foi cara?
the first is Grenal, seu noia
As you correctly did, it's true to say that São Paulo would be the first champions of every single possible existing trophy in case the club wins the Brazilian Supercup. However, there's a very relevant missing fact in that sentence: Flamengo are already champions of everything, as winner of rebranded trophies.
The Rio side has been champions of: World (1981 Intercontinental Cup), South-American first tier (3x Libertadores), second tier (Mercosul 1999) and supercup (Recopa 2020), Brazilian league (8x), cup (4x) and supercup (2x).
Besides Flamengo, there are other clubs that come really close on being champions of everything: Internacional, Santos and São Paulo (as mentioned before), only missing the brazilian supercup, Atlético Mineiro, Cruzeiro and Palmeiras, missing the world title and Grêmio, missing the south american 2nd tier title.
OBS: As you can see, I counted Flamengo as 8 times brazilian champions, as winners of 1980, 1982, 1983, 1987, 1992, 2009, 2019 and 2020. The video says 7 time champions, but shows a table of biggest winners that count all the 8 wins. This is because of the polemic 1987 edition, that had 2 different leagues with 2 different winners (Flamengo and Sport Recife).
To keep it short, what basicly happened in that year was that the Brazilian Confederation (CBF) gave up on the organization of that edition of the Brazilian League, which led to it being organized by the Clube dos 13 (the 12 big clubs + Bahia), that picked 16 clubs to play in the competition.
Since the beginning, CBF was always getting in the way of these clubs, first with an intervention in the issue of what teams should play in the league, and then with a change of plans and the decision to organize another league with the teams that were not taking part in the competition. First, this 2nd league was seen as the inferior division, but later on, CBF would demand a crossing between 1st and 2nd place between the two leagues, which was refused by the organizing clubs.
The competitions were played as they should, Flamengo has beaten Internacional in the clubs competition and Sport won against Guarani in the CBF league. Later on, the demanded crossing happened without Flamengo and Inter, which decided to boycott in agreement with the other big teams, and Sport and Guarani played alone, with Sport winning.
To this day, the issue is still very controversial.
An interesting curiosity is that the Flamengo's team that played in that year is considered by some as the best starting 11 in the club's all time history, beating the 1981 and 2019 teams. It had players such as Zico, Leandro and Andrade (world winners for Flamengo in 1981), Jorginho, Aldair, Leonardo, Zinho and Bebeto (world winners for Brazil in 1994) and Renato Gaúcho, Edinho and Zé Carlos (some of the best brazilian players of the 1980s).
@@pedrejaBeing champion of everything refers to everything they competed in, Flamengo never won the South American championship, so it is not considered, in fact, the same thing happens with Inter, they played in the second division and did not win.
@@carlosleao233 This is also true for São Paulo. The club played in every edition of the Copa Mercosul and Copa Ouro, and never got to win neither of them. They also took part in the CBF Copa dos Campeões and couldn't win it.
This 3 competitions, as well as the Supercopa Libertadores (which if I understood correctly, you have mentioned in your comment) doesn't exist anymore, so it's impossible to win them. This puts São Paulo in the exact same situation as Flamengo.
In fact, I believe this situation applies for every single club in Brazil. Specially considering that in the 90s and early 2000s, there were competitions being borned and extinguished in a yearly basis, almost every single club took part in a competition that doesn't exists anymore and they couldn't win it at the time.
So being champions of every single competition you ever played would be impossible. At the same time, it's possible to win everything in all measures: World, Continent (level 1, 2 and supercup) and National (League, Cup and supercup). This, of course, considering old and rebranded competitions that represent the same thing.
@@pedreja87 é do Sport
You had a lot of editing f ups this video. The most egregious were Bragantino’s shield being shown instead of Fluminense’s and Cruzeiro fans and b roll being showed instead of Vasco da Gama ones.
I know you are new to this but those are some pretty amateurish mistakes
I will give here a Brazillian (and biased, I confess) perspective:
Palmeiras: just don't support this club. (kidding (kind not kidding), I'm a Corinthians fan, the biggest rival...)
Palmeiras is a club that takes pride in its Italian origins. It was founded by Italians and descendants in the early 1900s (it was called "Palestra Italia" at the time, their new stadium adopted this name), and it was very successful. in modern history (since 1978, when the current Brazillian league started), they had big phases with big sponsorships, 93/94 with Parmalat and nowadays with Crefisa. it's not like Man City because sponsorship is not ownership. the last league was kind of a surprise because Botafogo was dominating and flopped...
Former players you may know: are Endrick and Gab Jesus.
Grêmio: a very traditional club, with the craziest games you can imagine, including one against Inter (their biggest rival) in the 2020 Libertadores the game ended with just 8 players on each side and the "Batalha dos aflitos" that is too crazy to explain in words, google it. their fans are heavily located in the south of Brazil (in all 3 states) and some specific cities in other regions for migration reasons. it's known for its spirit of battle and success in cups. the kind of club that their supporters expect to see the blood of their players (google "Hugo de Leon grêmio" and look at the images, you'll understand)
Former players you may know: Ronaldinho and Douglas Costa.
Atlético Mineiro: since the last decade it has built some surprisingly good teams, and with even more surprising consistency. because the clubs outside the states of São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro ("Mineiro" means from the state of Minas Gerais) don't have the supporters (in terms of numbers) that these states have, so they don't have the money the Rio-São Paulo clubs have. and even excluding Rio-São Paulo, AM was still behind, until the last decade, clubs like Gremio and Inter. but now they are a force to be reckoned with.
Former players you may know: Bremmer and Bernard.
Flamengo: Don't support them. (kidding, again, I'm biased)
They have the biggest fan base in Brazil, one of the biggest in the world. and because of that they survived with a lot of good teams even with a mess of directors. recently they have become much more organized and gained a lot of strength. and they sold Vini Jr, Rodrygo, and Lucas Paqueta for a ton of money, which facilitated even more their life. they don't own the Maracanã (it belongs to the state of Rio de Janeiro), but they play there. one of the teams with more history in Brazil, and have a lot of the media's attention (some say that too much attention).
Former players you may know: Vini Junior, Rodrygo, Zico, Adriano Imperador, and Romário.
(to be continued...)
You put the Bragantino logo in the Fluminense part
Fun fact from Internacional. In 2006 they won the world cup of clubs against Barcelona from Ronaldinho, Iniesta, Deco and many other legends. The goalscorer from Internacional, Adriano Gabiru wasn't a player from the main team and his career only plummeted down after that game.
4:28 Oxe, cadê o escudo do Fluminense? Kkkkkkkkkkk
Atlético MG the 3rd this season is from Belo Horizonte, Minas Gerais (it is another state that is part of the south east, but it is not close to São Paulo city)
atlético mineiro is not located in sao paulo, they’re from belo horizonte and they did NOT win the supercup in 2014, in fact, the supercup was last played in 1991 until it came back in 2019
Also, you may not believe, but Dimitri Payet and Chile's Medel both play for Vasco da gama 💢
Palmeiras 🐷 💚 The Best!
Champions in
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*in 67 two championships happened, and Palmeiras won both 💚🐷
Palmeiras is the most successful brazilian club in the copa libertadores (continental stage) and the most successful nationally, the only fair comparison between man city and palmeiras is that both are dominant in this past decade. Palmeiras is much bigger in history than Man City
Some facts:
Just Flamengo and São Paulo never got relegated, Santos was in 2023.
The brasileirao first edition was in 1971, but recently CBF (brazilian federation) validated some older tournaments as brasileirao titles, some teams gained nationals title because of this, Palmeiras and Santos are ones of them but Palmeiras and Flamengo have been the dominating ones the past 5 seasons.
Flamengo has the biggest number of supporters not only in Rio but in Brazil: Flamengo - Corinthians - São Paulo - Palmeiras, the 4 with more supporters.
Cruzeiro went bankrupt and was relegated, then Ronaldo bought the team for the same amout of Money Real paid for Endrick lmao. But they went from 2 national titles in 2013-2014 to Serie B in 8 years, crazy things.
Fortaleza is not in the big 12 but they are really big in their state and region. Tey had the 8° biggest average attendence in the season ahead of teams like Atletico MG - Atletico PR - Internacional - Cruzeiro - Vasco and Botafogo, only Vasco cannot have a higher average attendence due to the size of the stadium.
Bahia and Fortaleza are actually from the northeast region of Brazil, which has a lot less money to work with than any other club from the southeast where Rio, São Paulo, and Minas Gerais are localized. Just to play in the 1st division is already an achievement.
Keep up the good work 🎉
I find it always impossible to support just one team in the Brazilian league. Right now, Atletico Mineiro has my biggest support.
The Brazilian championship is very competitive, but it is still far from perfect. But the passion for our team will make us want to continue watching and rooting for the championship to evolve 😂
Athletico fan here, nice vídeo!!
2:22 - Atlético Mineiro is from Belo Horizonte, a city from the top 5 biggest cities in Brazil, not from São Paulo.
この少年は世界中からファンを集めているクラブの出身だ。
Hey man love your video but as a Fluminense fan you put the wrong image when talking about us on 4:31, You used Bragantino's logo.
And when you talked about Vasco de Gama. You used footage from the Cruzeiro's fans and stadiums.
nicee! i think u may like the rivalry between palmeiras and corinthians. the biggest one in brasil (i'm brazilian and a palmeiras fan)
We consider many teams giants, tallers and smallers, so many people consider this tier list as the correct size:
1° São Paulo
2° Santos
3° Palmeiras/Flamengo (yes, they have so similar sizes)
4° Grêmio
5° Corinthians
6° Cruzeiro
7° Internacional
8° Vasco
9° Atlético MG
10° Fluminense
Just a correction here. Atletico Mineiro actually is located in Belo Horizonte, in Minas Gerais State, instead of São Paulo state.
there's also the lampions league, where only teams from northeast reagion of Brasil compete. it's the third most important championship
Before getting to know any Brazilian club, get to know the history of the most Brazilian of them, Corithians, the only two-time FIFA World Cup with more than 33 million fans who are madly in love, and that's why we call ourselves a "BUNCH OF CRAZIES" GO CORINTHIANS.
VAI CORINTHIANS CARALHOOOOOOO
Atletico Mineiro isn't from São Paulo, the "Mineiro" means "from Minas Gerais" which is a state. Other than that, great video.
Ele queria dizer " a few hours away from Rio and São paulo", mas realmente pareceu "in São paulo" mas ele falou certo
great video man thank you
For me Santos is my favourite because they where the first Team ive known from brazil
Some errors in the video:
- Palmeiras does not have 12 Brasileirão titles;
- Atlético Mineiro is a team from Belo Horizonte, in the state of Minas Gerais;
- Only 2 teams have never been relegated in history (Flamengo and São Paulo), not 3;
- The symbol shown as Fluminense's is incorrect;
- Fortaleza is not nationally relevant in Brazil, although it is restructuring;
- The first Brazilian team to win all possible trophies was Internacional, not São Paulo;
- The two world titles of Corinthians were not mentioned, the last Brazilian team to become world champion (2012);
- The great rivalry between Cruzeiro and Atlético Mineiro was not mentioned, which is similar but smaller than that of Grêmio and Internacional;
- Santos does not have eight Brazilian titles.
Make a video talking about the rivalry of the brazilian teams
Yo, good video, as a brazillian i saw you did a research
Gremio is the King of Cups in Brazil, being the most successful Cup winner in the country with 1 Club World Cup, 3 Libertadores (most in BR), 5 Brazilian Cups (2nd most), 2 American Supercups (most in BR), and 1 Brazilian Supercup, totaling 12 cup wins, more than any other brazilian team. Also, its the only of the 5 teams tied with most Libertadores titles in Brazil that have won their 3 titles with 3 different squads. Palmeiras, Sao Paulo, Santos and Flamengo have all won back-to-back titles with the same winning squad of the year prior. And its the team with most seasons in the Brazilian top division (48). Sad that foreigners have started learning about brazilian football right when Gremio came back from relegation, as it seems some that havent done too much research think its a common occurance. Suarez is a legend, but Gremio is far from being dependent on him or any other player. If you dont remember, they are Ronaldinho's first team. And even he is not of great relevance compared to the club's history.
time com mais copas é o cruzeiro e grêmio não tem mundial, gazela 🤓🤓
VASCO DA GAMA, the club with the most beautiful history in the world!
história de perdedores 😂
Santos FC team of the king of football ,the birthplace of stars such a neymar, pelé,rodrygo and other stars. the biggest of the world .
Palmeiras is not like city.. Palmeiras is one of the biggest since the 60"
The Brazilian League is probably the best league out of Europe, the teams, the fans, the stadiums, the atmosphere, everything is great in this League, thanks for also talking about all the teams and also talking about my team, Flamengo
Also, just to say, Flamengo according to a lot of people and even CBF is actually 8 times a league champion, although this thing of them having 7 or 8 comes from the fact that the 1987 championship was a complete mess, to this day, Flamengo and Sport Recife fight for the title of that year in court, rivals say they have 7 and Sport has 1, fans say Flamengo has 8 and some people say that they both won the league that year, it's a pretty confusing story and it's still a debate around here
Another thing, this time about Bragantino, it's sad and annoying they got bought by Red Bull, but honestly, it's impossible not to look at their history, in São Paulo they are so traditional and big, and they've also been runner-up of the league against São Paulo in 1991, its sad that they became a corporate and soulless club, but saying they have absolutely no tradition is a bit too much
Sorry for making this comment this long, it's just that I really have a big connection to this league and it's usually hard to see someone talk about it
OITENTA E SETE É DO SPORTTTTTTTTT
@@MarcoNeukamp *Rebaixado em 86 e Campeão em 87, vai entender*
Tbh it's probably better than a bunch of European Leagues. Imagine how cool it would be if they played the UCL.
In 1987 Flamengo won the proper championship while Sport won the second division. That year was a huge mess that actually started in the year before but to simplify, the Clube dos 13 (a recently at the time formed organization with the biggest clubs in the country back then) were told by CBF they had to do the championship themselves if they wanted any championship to happen, since CBF claimed to have no money. The tournament was supposed to have different modules representing the different divisions, with Flamengo being in the equivalent to the first and Sport the equivalent to the second. Close to the beginning of it all, CBF wanted to snatch it back and do it their own way with a final group stage with the champions and runner ups of the first and srcond division modules (Flamengo and Internacional, Sport and Guarani). During a meeting with representatives from CBF, Eurico Miranda (Vasco president and representative of Clube dos 13) was supposed to enforce the Clube's wish to keep it w/o the group stage at the end, but was pressured to accept the new rules and signed it, making it pretty much a betrayal. The teams from Clube dos 13 kept their wish to not change the rules and that pretty much made the tournament divided between the modules, to a point where Copa União (Clube dos 13 and first division) and the second division from CBF weren't even broadcasted by the same TV channels. At the end, Flamengo and Internacional made the finals of the Copa União but refused to play at the final group stage, with only Sport and Guarani being a part of it, which Sport won. Flamengo won a legit title, but Sport had a signed document with the rule changes on their side so legally, they are also winners. At the end of the day, you can't say either of them is the sole winner, but everyone that is not a Flamengo supporter claims Sport won just out of spite, and Flamengo supporters claim it's ours as a responsez but the whole discussion is unnecessary and asinine, if only CBF actually had the balls to properly share the title between both to end the discussion, considering shared titles happened a fair amount in our history. Sorry for the long post no one is gonna read lmao
TL;DR: the 86 championship was mess that went over to 87, CBF claimed to be broke, gave the rights to organize a championship to the clubs, than wanted it back, tried to change everything, Eurico Miranda betrayed the league, Flamengo won the proper tournament, Sport won in court
9:09 you gave wrong information.... Like where did you get your info??? The last major trophy for cruzeiro was in 2018 (Copa do Brasil). In 2022 they won Série B.
this video was made with a lot of good intentions. but there's a lot of wrong things in there bro. anyways, thank you for share our league.
The Fluminense logo is wrong in 4:31. Also, when you showed The League and Cup pictures for Atletico Mineiro you swapped the photos :) nice video overall though!
it world be cool if you just said some players formed in that club
Search about "Batalha dos Aflitos"... The most improbable game of the history.