The Perfect Storm | Episode 18 | Can Your belief System Stand Up to Scrutiny?
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
- Welcome to episode 18 of 'The Perfect Storm' with Abbas, Hamza, Ijaz & Imran, live at 9:30pm BST. The Perfect Storm is designated for anyone that would like to have their belief system challenged. Can your belief system stand up to scrutiny?
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Timestamps/Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
1:25 - Brothers Abbas & Hamza join
1:42 - Purpose of the stream
4:11 - Discussion about the previous streams & Dawah discussion
6:29 - Hijab's podcast with Jordan Peterson
14:11 - Christianity being from Paul and not from Jesus PBUH
18:18 - Mike: lying on previous stream
20:37 - Bible being the word of God
22:09 - Did Jesus Pbuh die for the sins of mankind ?
23:11 - Evidence of Christianity
(Healing of the sick)
26:37 - Claim of Christianity not being a religion
28:31 - Reliability of the Bible
32:02 - The Bible Qiraat (so/sooo) 😂😂
32:13 - Changes in the Bible (1st John 5:7)
37:52 - Claim of Trinity in Genisis (1: 26-27)
42:49 - Only true God as per Jesus PBUH
45:12 - Did Jesus PBUH claim to be God ?
52:52 - Bible Contractions
55:48 - CPuss 🤡 & his deceptions
59:34 - The Doctor's Diagnosis 🩺
1:00:42 - Exegesis of John 8: 58
1:04:39 - Hamza refutes the claim of him lying about inviting CPuss
1:08:24 - Steve: being Deist & flaws with Religions
1:14:44 - Verifying the Qur'an to be the word of Allah ﷻ
1:17:15 - Issues with Deism & analysing the claim of Muhammad ﷺ
1:21:51 - Did Muhammad ﷺ exist ?
1:30:19 - Not being Genuine in Salah, struggling with doubts & how to increase Emaan
1:38:50 - Steve takes his Shahadah & advice from the brothers
1:46:42 - Matt: his background & leaving Christianity
1:50:50 - Why is Atheism true ?
1:52:19 - Evidence of existence of God & Simulation Theory
2:06:01 - Discussion on the concept of "I think therefore I am" & various existence theories
2:16:41 - How did the Universe began ?
2:18:19 - concept of Virtual Particles, Quantum science & claim of "Something from Nothing"
2:53:29 - Seeking the Truth, Scientism
2:55:42 - History of Religions & Science
3:00:38 - Do Muslims believe in Evolution ?
3:02:51 - Eliahu: what are the issues with Judaism ?
3:04:32 - Why Judaism is true ?
(Transmission of the Torah)
3:10:44 - Authority of Oral vs Written Tradition
3:13:58 - Source of Judaism
3:15:34 - the Jewish understanding of history
3:16:39 - Claim of Monotheism being historically exclusive to Jews
3:21:20 - Jews being "the chosen people"
3:23:11 - Revelations to other nations in Judaism vs Islam
3:26:02 - Talmud containing Fiction
3:28:50 - Only Jews being the people to accept the Torah
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0:00 - Intro
1:25 - Brothers Abbas & Hamza join
1:42 - Purpose of the stream
4:11 - Discussion about the previous streams & Dawah discussion
6:29 - Hijab's podcast with Jordan Peterson
14:11 - Christianity being from Paul and not from Jesus PBUH
18:18 - Mike: lying on previous stream
20:37 - Bible being the word of God
22:09 - Did Jesus Pbuh die for the sins of mankind ?
23:11 - Evidence of Christianity
(Healing of the sick)
26:37 - Claim of Christianity not being a religion
28:31 - Reliability of the Bible
32:02 - The Bible Qiraat *(so/sooo)* 😂😂
32:13 - Changes in the Bible (1st John 5:7)
37:52 - Claim of Trinity in Genisis (1: 26-27)
42:49 - Only true God as per Jesus PBUH
45:12 - Did Jesus PBUH claim to be God ?
52:52 - Bible Contractions
55:48 - CPuss 🤡 & his deceptions
59:34 - The Doctor's Diagnosis 🩺
1:00:42 - Exegesis of John 8: 58
1:04:39 - Hamza refutes the claim of him lying about inviting CPuss
1:08:24 - Steve: being Deist & flaws with Religions
1:14:44 - Verifying the Qur'an to be the word of Allah ﷻ
1:17:15 - Issues with Deism & analysing the claim of Muhammad ﷺ
1:21:51 - Did Muhammad ﷺ exist ?
1:30:19 - Not being Genuine in Salah, struggling with doubts & how to increase Emaan
1:38:50 - *Steve takes his Shahadah* & advice from the brothers
1:46:42 - Matt: his background & leaving Christianity
1:50:50 - Why is Atheism true ?
1:52:19 - Evidence of existence of God & Simulation Theory
2:06:01 - Discussion on the concept of "I think therefore I am" & various existence theories
2:16:41 - How did the Universe began ?
2:18:19 - concept of Virtual Particles, Quantum science & claim of "Something from Nothing"
2:53:29 - Seeking the Truth, Scientism
2:55:42 - History of Religions & Science
3:00:38 - Do Muslims believe in Evolution ?
3:02:51 - Eliahu: what are the issues with Judaism ?
3:04:32 - Why Judaism is true ?
(Transmission of the Torah)
3:10:44 - Authority of Oral vs Written Tradition
3:13:58 - Source of Judaism
3:15:34 - the Jewish understanding of history
3:16:39 - Claim of Monotheism being historically exclusive to Jews
3:21:20 - Jews being "the chosen people"
3:23:11 - Revelations to other nations in Judaism vs Islam
3:26:02 - Talmud containing Fiction
3:28:50 - Only Jews being the people to accept the Torah
May Allah bless you
@@axis2312 جَزاكَ اللهُ خَـيْراً ☺️
@@jetm7497 Thank you for your kind words Brother ❤️
_Just trying my best to contribute to the Dawah Ecosystem._ 😊
Jazakallah. Keep up the good wok bro.
@@FamlyPC وَإِيَّاك ☺️
Thanks for having me on. It was a pleasure to chat with you all.
Matt you are Most welcome sir.
Salaam/Peace ❤
Thank you for being sincere! We loved listening to you Matt, come back :)
You are sincere guy, please come back. Peace
Hope to see you again. God bless.
Keep well dear Matt. Wish you on "our side" one day. Please do join this stream more often
An Atheist, a Christian and a Jew entered a Livestream and got smashed
Thanks!
Eliahu’s stubbornness and arrogance shines through during this interaction. The one who does tricks and flips is always paranoid about others doing to him what he does to others. The insincerity in the answer to nearly every poignant question was clear to me. The snidey remarks and frustrated rhetoric proved the weakness of his claims.
This Mike guy is in HARDcore denial. Dude was NOT prepared to come on here.
@@jetm7497 and he still looked a fool and stumbled over himself
@@jetm7497 all he could say was"u guys need to do your homework"hahaha.
like that is an argument for christianity
@@jetm7497 right
@@Incandescence555& he talked like Jason burns.
Shahada with Steve was beautiful
For brother Steve Carl: Everything we do it in life is we do it to get benefits, and the most high benefit we should get is God’s acceptance and mercy. And God promised us heaven when worshiping him right in other words he told us to seek the most high benefit HEAVEN.
So today I learned that some rabbis made up stories and added them into scripture...
Emotional Mike! His rationality, logic lost in emotion. May Allah show him the right path & keep us on the right path. Alhamdulillah
amin
@@freeman7983 q11
Scholars are against hamza on jn 8:58, i am passionate about truth and correct interpretation of my scripture. When a biased muslim comes on trying to reinterpret a passage that is out of context yes i get emotional oh yes.
Salaam only one God and it's Allah SWT love here from South Africa Johnessburg pray 5 times a day
Ameen.
Jazak Allahu Khayran
Alhamdulillahi rabbi al'alameen
@@michaelevans4110 salaam brother I'm from SA you are from where ?
@@iswallbanoo9843
Wa Salam, I'm from
Birmingham, England brother
Aslaam aleykum 😍
Honestly, I don't think anyone will take the Talmud seriously after listening to this geezer, and you are sincere and looking for the Truth. No wonder judaism only focuses on ethnicity and deter anyone else wanting to join, but it doesn't make sense in the real world. I wonder though if Rabbi Tovia Singer or Josh would say the same thing, or if they have a different understanding.
it's a racial creed, they are more or less the same.
Hamza after Matt, “I see this guy with the hat 🎩 I didn’t want lose him”. “He looks his ready for show down.”
Hamza’s bait😂😂. I hope Josh is watching it.
May Allah The Almighty keep you steadfast, brother Steve.
May Allah Accept your works, and make it a means of acceptance and Guidance for the Ummah!
بارك الله فيكم...
اللهم اغفر لأبي و ارحمه و اجمعنا معه في الفردوس الأعلى مع الأنبياء و الشهداء و الصالحين و جميع موتى المسلمين..
اللهم احقن دماء المسلمين و انصرهم على من عاداهم..
رب أني مسني الضر و أنت أرحم الراحمين...
لا إله إلا أنت سبحانك إني كنت من الظالمين...
With respect to Matt I find it incredible that people don't understand the definition of nothing. Nothing is a concept that doesn't and cannot exist.
It should be easy to understand. We have things around us, so its easy to understand that nothing means devoid of things.
The Jewish guy was difficult.
Bonkers!
He was like holding tears .
To brother Stephen, may Allah accept your renewal of faith. Regarding your doubts about Khidr and the killing of the boy. His parents were righteous and loved him. However the boy was destined to be a disbeliever when he became an adult and would effect the eeman of his parents. He would be a burden had he become an adult. By Khidr taking out the child, it has many wisdoms and mercy not only for the parent but potentially for the killed child as well. The child was killed so another child who's destiny was piety would come in his place, so the fruits of the parents' labour was achieved. There may also be mercy for the killed child since if he became an adult and a disbeliever, he would end up in hell. However by dying at such a young age, his innocence may be preserved and would may end up in jannah despite being destined to be a disbeliever as an adult. Allahualim. The evidence for this is from the hadeeth of Samurah (may Allah be pleased with him), that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) saw the children of the Muslims and the children of the disbelievers with Ibraaheem (peace be upon him). Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 6640.
This is why it is said in Surah Kahf verse 81:
"So we intended that their Lord should exchange him for them for one better in righteousness and nearer to mercy.''
Your reflex reaction was that it was unjust to kill an innocent child, this was what you said in the live stream. Musa also had the same reaction as you and the Quran is very clear about showing this. However Khird taught us to have patience and having trust in what Allah chooses for the believers:
"and it may be that you dislike a thing which is good for you" 2:216
MashAllah!!! At the time of writing this, it's been 3 hours since being aired and already 15k views. May Allah bless The Brothers and everyone who supports the Dawah!! AMEEN!! I think the Haters are getting Worried😱😱.
ameen
Ameen.
Alhamdulillahi rabbi al'alameen
May Allah bless you brothers
ameen
It would be absolutely fantastic if someone could cut and edit these videos for when a guest says.."no I didnt say that", when they crearly did...Eliahu please rewatch the stream.
Assalamualaikum, Jummah Mubarak to everyone. Have a blessed Friday.
May Allah protect these men. Todays lions of Islam.
Islam is a lie straight out of the pit of hell. The quran is a evil book which needs to be exposed for what it is. Heresy and lies.
@@fredrogers3146 may Allah guide you
جزاكم الله خيرا
amin
Interesting and informative debate - good upload.
@32:02 "You might get a translation that says "for God so loved the world" and you might get a translation that says "for God SOOOOOOOOO loved the world."
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Is that the Bible Qiraat ??
😂🤣😂🤣
@@asadullahsaaid3794
PAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@jetm7497
💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
Seriously, have you EVER heard anything so damn ridiculous in your entire life? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Guys *"yOu nEeD tHe H0Ly sPiRiT t0 uNdErStAnD tHiS"*
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@@jetm7497
I spat beans, toast and fish fingers all over my tablet screen!
RIP TABLET!
Welcome Steve brother. May ALLAH make you stradfast. Ameen ya RABB
Salam 3likoum …shalom.
We need to see Eliahou again .
Thank you for your videos !!!!
Hamza bro, you REALLY need to learn how to stop interrupting Abbas.
This is coming from a denizen by the way. Love you all brothers for the sake of Allah!
Lol 😂 mike calling cp for help was hilarious 😂 Muslims leaving Islam because of cp’s knowledge lmfao 😂 man I am dying here 😂 😂
But he is a scholaaa!
@@taimur74 and a dougnkey 🐴 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@jay haych 🤣🤣🤣
Abbaas did a great job moderating. Alhamdulillah
So glad to see the Judaism books are just as made up as Christian Bible. Please bring back the Jewish guest (Elihau) again few times. He is exposing Judaism just by talking. Found this discussion far more interesting than the typical discussion with the Christians as those talks are becoming somewhat stale because of repetition.
Thanks,
Agreed, brother 👍
masha ALLAH good stream
جزاكم الله خيرًا
Alhamdulilah
I like Steve Carl, he sounds sincere.
Masha’Allah. All the brothers mean well no matter how cruel it sounds
When it was pointed out to Mike at 33:00 that 1st Epistle of John 5:7 was an interpolated verse to fit in the doctrine of the trinity and that it isn't found in the earliest manuscripts.
Thereby, letting you know that a clear corruption of the text is happening. He then goes on to say "it doesn't affect my faith"...
*facepalm*
Thank u brothers for the vid. may Allah bless u and forgive if you guys made a mistake Ameen. May Allah give you give u guys sheefah and peace of mind while teaching and learning the deen Ameen 🙏
jazakomo LLAHO khayran
Excellent show Mashallaah
Efdawah team doing an amazing dawah may Allah SWT increase their knowledge more ameen
Ameen
Sunni islam is number 1
Mashallah
Brother the correct way to write is:
Maa Shaa Allah.
(Mashallah means something els in Hebrew you see).
@@naeemaurangzeb1649 And likewise, 'In Sha Allah'.
@@naeemaurangzeb1649 He's not speaking hebrew.
Jzk salaam only one God and it's Allah SWT love here from South Africa Johnessburg pray 5 times a day
Merci !
Obviously, Mike doesn't know the maths. He didn't consider that Christianity had begun 600 years before Islam. If you factor 600 years then Isalm is growing much faster rate than Christanity.
Islam didn't start with the time of the prophet (pbhu) if we're stating facts. Starting from Adam (pbhu).
Dr. Imran is Yoda.
Jazakallahu Khayran Ahsanul Jaza
Lol Hamza finished Mike 🤣
"You're only #1 when you combine all your heresies together"
That was funny. And even with those heresies combined. Islam by 2050/60 will be the largest religion on the planet.
Do all the millions of people who beat cancer or are misdiagnosed claim that someone had prayed for them whether they were treated by an operation or otherwise?
I need to try Raw Onion and Ketchup.
😂😂😂😂😂.
Historically it makes more sense that monotheism is rooted in all historical religions - as revealed for those particular people. This is why I believe in Islam totally aswell. The Jewish concept of exclusivity is totally baseless.
@L BB You can’t verify what the oldest religion is. The oldest religion we know of is Hinduism and that’s only 4000 years old. Also, the Qur’an doesn’t state judaism specifically is the first religion of God but the monotheism preached by Adam.
@UCghhnQRSBbK-z9NhpTB7Fhg Absence of evidence isn’t evidence of absence. So to state the it’s in contradiction with the Qur’an is false. Also, the Qur’an talks about how there was polytheism after the time of Adam so you could argue that the archeological evidence is confirming the Qur’an. I have no idea about Judaic narratives however.
@L BB I think your comment was deleted.
Shout Out to Steve for his heart.
59:00 Bro Hamzah just did a Jenazah on him
In addition to what the brothers said about prophet muhammad existing
We have letters sent to Rome, persia, Oman, Bahrain with his stamp peace be upon him.
Watching and listening the last guest Eliahu the jews.. I get the glimps of what kind of people that our Prophet Muhammad SAW confronted. And surprisingly he admited that the jews are very stubborn people.... no wonder.
Steve👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Mike: “do you want to get your bible out so we’re on the same page?”
Hamzah: “don’t worry I’ll get my Jew out”
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hahaha
May Allah forgive brother Steve, Grant him useful Knowledge, taqwa and sweetnes of imaan, and keep him steadfast. It was very touching, witnessing his struggle. بارك الله فيكم for the love and advice you offered him.
01:30:21
My humble request to brother Steve watch series lecture 'Change of Hearts' by Ustadh Ali Hammuda
Quantum particles don't pop out of absolutely nothing. A vacuum in space is not truly empty. The very fabric of space has energy. These particles borrow this energy to come into existence then return it when they disappear.
We can't even get to a thermal temperature of 0 Kelvin in our universe. The coldest temperature in our universe was artificially created by a team in Germany but it's impossible for us to get to 0 Kelvin as that would require an infinite amount of energy to do.
So since we can't get to absolutely nothing in the first place, how are Atheists saying particles can come from nothing.
Because they want to build their fantasy of this world coming from nothing. But unfortunately for them, it would take into account the consistency that we have here on earth. If things just popped out of nothing, science would be nigh impossible to exists. We wouldn't even be able to have similar DNA.
Brother Eliahu lost the conversation when he said you shouldn't place to high a standard on scripture. That is why Islam is so strong the Qur'an itself has falsification tests.
Hamza brother please exercise some patience ... The main purpose of Dawah is to attract people not to defeat them and humiliate them .
for me, the argument with the egypt is secular and doesn't follow the quran is weird..doesn't follow and doesn't know is totally different..the egypt doesn't follow while they know but the point made by abbas was, the king didn't know so they dont follow
To record Reconcile with an emotional position rationally is almost impossible. It is how the brain functions.
The one prayer isn't meaningful, but the prayers through your life is
I’ve been talking to a hindutva adherent and I’m not trained to do dawah properly. So, if it pleases you then could you have him in your arena and answer his questions? He has many questions and he has seen and heard almost all prominent duaat including yourself.
Bring him on to next week's Arena on Hamza's Den
@@zarreen5467
How do I do that?
@@mohammadaman175 on the live stream, they will post the link to streamyard.
@@mohammadaman175 go on Hamza's channel "Hamza's den". they always give a link so that u can get on the stream
@@mohammadaman175 Also take him to DawahWise (check when they have live streams) theyve been discussing Hinduism.
If joshua was the scribe of moses (as) and he was with moses, it wouldn't say you will have one like me after me, it would say you will have one that is with me nevertheless the guy was already alive and kicking so he couldn't have been raised up "after" moses when he was raised up "with" moses
And the part about living language, the hebrew language was dead and has been revived using other languages and secularists who "reawakened" the language how they saw fit with absolute zero way of knowing if what and how they pronounce is the same as the time of moses
Eliahu and his mental gymnastics.
It sounds like the jewish guest was saying they have the written torah preserved and they have the oral "tanakh" preserved. So you don't have both written and oral preservation of both, its one for one.
The jewish guy constantly missing the point and I think its on purpose, none of the question wasnt answered straight. At least josh was honest.
mike man. Honesty is key my friend.
I have to stop the video every few minutes to get through the spasms of cringes. People's arguments are often quite deluded. I wonder how they get on in their daily lives
I don't get it either. They believe in the trinity first then the Bible second. Then the go in circles from there hopping back and forth from blind faith to scripture. It doesn't help that they can't answer the question that was asked.
To add to Hijab response on Quran recitation to JP, non-Muslims don't understand that, unlike the bible or other any religion holy book, the translation of the Quran is not Quran. it is merely a human interpretation of the meanings, and cannot be called verses of the Quran. Quran exists solely in Arabic. That is why it is relevant to recite verses is Arabic before giving the translation. Unfortunately brothers overlook this distinction and never make this distinction clear to their non-Arabic speaking audience when they recite verses of Quran.
Tbh when it comes to other books they don’t really have a confirmation that the translation has the same weight as the original most just accept it
So Arabic is uncreated since the Quran is uncreated?
@Portsmouthcity333
The Quran is WHAT is RECITED or The RECITAL. WHATEVER that is REVEALED becomes CREATED. So the Quran is NOT CREATED until it reaches the stage of being written or Recited or Communicated in any form such as computer generated. Because we can only relate to that which is CREATED. That could be in any Form whether we see it or NOT such as radio waves or light waves or sound waves or any particle wave or non particle wave. So all Languages are Created. It's just that since the Quran was revealed in Arabic and the eloquence can not be equaled in any other Language. Just as if it was revealed in Chinese it would not be equaled in another Language. YOU shouldn't be prejudiced to a Language because you are alien to it.
3:31:20
I think he was describing Israel actually, military, killing children, trying to control the world....
But don't know he realized 🤔
السَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكُمْ وَرَحْمَةُ اللهِ وَبَرَكَاتُهُ
Good stream. Some time wasted as usual but that part and parcel. The Eliahu guy came across genuine but kept cutting Dr. Imran and when quizzed about certain things, he got very triggered 😤.
Come on people crucify that like button!!
I think He just make a possible scenario that Manuscript can be change or re-make that can be applied to modern Teaching which is differs.
He actually slip on to his own Jewish State today that still researching the Biblical Archeology remain, and that not an easy task, because the researcher (secrets) will always kept the Truth no mater the state want to change it.
3:27:30 the Jewish brother Eliahu jus flipped on brother Imran out of nowhere 🤣🤣🤣
Christian Princess 👸 😂😂😂😂😂
That's what I said
Your nightmare!
@@nobleprince1238 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’” (Matthew 7:21-23).
Talking about Christians
@@sinanshahul8141 How does memorising Sura 112 = One third of the qur'aan? (Sahih al-Bukhari 6643)
@@sinanshahul8141 If Matthew 7:21-23 is "talking about Christians", do you mean ALL Christians?
No disrespect to other religions but this Jewish guy killed me😂😂😂 Hamza please LOL😂 Islam- the Truth!
Alhamdullilah guys for your work!
Just continuing to listen to this Jew. Bruh, just let him speak and don't interrupt him. He doesn't even understand how he is explicitly saying they corrupted everything 😂😂😂😂
I was actually listening to mike till he praised CP.
Steve
How you are processing issues is a bit distorted. Do you have to answer all the questions to believe?? How many is “all”?
Steve Carl اسأل الله ان يهديك ويردك ردا جميلا
Hello hello, post time stamps here so I can watch.
51:20😂😂
What is the name of that book at 2:29?
I really would like to know brothers Abbas and Imran of what nationality are they?? I tend to think that they are pakistani, but, its just a guess thing.
Does Hamza come across arrogant?
We love you Abbas!
"I'm gonna get my Jew out.."
Hahaha
FYI: Joshua is Yusha(AS)
@4:08:00 Greece was founded on 25 March 1821 so in ancient times there was no Unified Greek State with their Own King or Kingdom or a Language called greek
Hamza my brother you had no right calling that brother a hypocrite those are very dangerous words and if it isn’t true those words go up and if it False they come back and strike the person who said so please refrain from personal remarks May Allah guide us all , Allahuma Ameen
What Hamza is saying is true, because if you don't practice what you preach then you are a Hypocrite.
Soo try to understand first before making comments 🤔
@@zenebusman8575 i definitely understand what has been said its crucial to understand the power of words and the brother is admitting he has issues and needs guidance and assistance in certain aspects not to be called a hypocrite that doesnt help at all
I didn't understand anything from the conversation with Matt. I don't know why.
Its Because he doesn't want to believe in God. Existence itself is proof that God exists, there is no need to look for it. What he should be doing is finding if God has contact with us.
Many scholars of Islam actually posit the position that the Children of Israel were the chosen people because they were told so explicitly about the coming of the Prophet Muhammad! Jewish immigration to the Arabian peninsula in the centuries leading up to the Prophet's emergence is historical fact. As is his myriad discussions with the Jews of Madina and peace and blessings upon our beloved habib.
Ameen.
Alhamdulillahi rabbi al'alameen
jews take the word "chosen" totally different. Arabs could claim they are the true chosen because they are the ones who actually received the final and the protected message for eternity.
@@seanou2837 Sorry Sean, you're at risk of doing what some Jews may be doing with the ethnic or geo-social exceptionalism they may attest to. Prophet Muhammad was sent to all mankind, not just the Arabs - 'and we sent you primarily to be a mercy to the world(s)'. Arabs are not exceptional, for 'indeed the best of you are the most pious (of you)'. While Arabs are not exceptional, they are indeed very lucky to receive the Quran in their native tongue. Take it easy
They were Chosen because they were righteous and the best of people at the time.
Where are you getting the claim that this was because they were told about the Prophet ﷺ?
And yes. They were informed about the coming of the Prophet ﷺ but that's a different topic.
@@samboy90 You're really claiming the children of Israel were righteous despite Allah's myriad condemnations and damnation of them throughout the Quranic stories of the Prophets? 'they disbelieve and kill the Prophets?', if you don't like the theory that they were told about the Prophet and that's what made them exceptional then what about the theory that they didn't listen and committed atrocities against Allah and the Prophets, and so that's why they needed so many sent to them? Maybe that's why they're exceptional - because they were graced by many Prophets, messengers, signs, miracles and scripture? Do you like what they did to Musa or Jesus peace be upon them? Also I get my claim from a lot of sunni Islamic scholars actually across the Arab world. I'm not doing your research for you. But I'm open to edification so please do give me your thoughts and research on this matter.
He simply doesn't understand. It is hard to persuade him otherwise from what he thinks.
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