Citizen NY0040 Review - is it better than Seiko SKX007
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
- A review of an icon of affordable automatic mechanical divers watches, an ISO certified Citizen NY0040, the main competitor to the legendary Seiko SKX007.
How does it stack up and which one would I choose?
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My father bought this watch in 1998. He gave it to me 7 years ago. I am wearing it everyday since then. He wore it every day, too. 20 years of use, no service - works just fine. Not taken off for swimming or sleeping. It is there and does the job. Amazing.
I just ordered mine today from an online jeweler in Italy. $190.00 (w/ online disc code) got me a SS bracelet and free shipping. I can't wait to get in the water with it, or use it out hiking, or time my mac 'n cheese with it or hand it off to my son in 20 years.
@@charlie-obrien May I ask what site that was?
@@InGratitudeIam If you bought and live in the US, did you have to pay anything material in terms of custom duties or fees or what have you?
This is good news
I would go for a service by the way. It is like with car, if you don't want to run the risk your watch stop working out of the blue, you should service. It deserves it after all, doesn't it!?
FYI - A good dive watch will have an extremely short hour hand compared to the minute hand. The reason is that when diving, it's critical to have your minute hand jump out at you. Minutes are what matter when diving, not hours.
But here the minute hand is too short, not the hour hand
@@WatchGeek if the hands were any bigger it would clutter the dial
I like and accept everything of my coke bezel NY085, with module 8204 (hand wind and hacking second hand), including the mechanism flaw in resistance in day changing using the crown.
The only flaws I wish it doesn’t have is the short-hand-syndrome. It makes reading time, distinguishing hour and minute hands a tad slower either day time and especially at night relying on lume.
I have this Watch its more than 10yrs it still working good
I chose the ny0040 over the skx because it has seen actual militaristic use. To me something with any kind of pedigree is always a huge plus.
I own both...Much prefer the Citizen, windable much more accurate. looks fab
How is the Citizen's crystal holding up against the scratches friend? I thought of buying one,will I be able to use it for many years?
@@Dilshan_Kasun i own one and it scratch really easy, only negative point in my opinion
@@loscabos3532 Yes friend,I ordered a tempered therefore. I applied it before using
I have the SKX, this Citizen, the Casio Duro, the Orient Ray 2 Raven, the Vostok Amphibia, the Cressi Manta and I have to say that the look of the SKX is something else unmathced by any other diver, but the Citizen got me like I wasn't expecting it to. I love them all, the Ray is the epitome of perfection, there's not a single mistake there, the Amphibia has so much personality it's crazy, the Duro is just impossible to hate, so much value for the money, and the Manta does the job efficently as you would expect from a company that sells diving related stuff.
Divers are truly amazing to me.
I have both, but the Citizen is my favorit, it is more refined.
I was fortunate enough to make the ny0040 my first auto divers watch in my collection and about 8months later I still absolutely love it, I was considering the skx at the time because of the availability of the citizen but one came up at a good price and I bit the bullet, so glad I have one.
The perfectly smooth glossy dial and the embossed markers make this a SKX Killer.
The Citizen NY and NH series are both on my "watch to buy" list. Lovely and cheap watches. Thanks for the nice review...
I love the SKX, but I like the Citizen even more.
Being a long-term skx fan boy I was amazed at the quality and consistent accuracy of the citizen. I now have 3 in my collection. The original, the fully lumed dial and the blue Pepsi. Great watches.
Glad I found this video before I pulled the trigger on the skx. Thx
Great review. Keep up the good work.
I have the ny0040, blue dial, and I love it. I agree, the dial is special and needs to be seen to be appreciated.
Very good review. I don't dive, however I do a lot of sailing. You have definitely aroused my curiosity with this one. I only have one Citizen in my collection and it is an Eco - Drive.
Having received my citizen pro diver , identical to this i can only agree with you on ever point and this shines above the skx , that I also own , I really love the citizen thanks Shane uk 🇬🇧
Great video. Just purchased this watch and I'm blown away by how great it is. This must be the perfect holiday watch to wear without concerns
Great review as always. All comments are spot on and I got nothing to ad. My vote goes for NY0040.
Great reivew as always, and this Citizen is awsome watch. I have one.
After some time of watching compare videos I bought the Citizen at a diver's shop for € 190,-- . It's a NY0040-09EE build in July 2021 with the updated Miyota work 8204 which is hackable. It looks stunning with the black dial, all elements accurately in place. It holds time that I have to look twice before realizing that it hasn't lost or gained a second during the last 3 days. I wear it 24/7 because it's so comfortable with the crown at the 8 o'clock position and it keeps the watch running accurate. The lume is absolutly readable throughout the night without extra exposure to light in between.
My only complaint is working the crown because it can be a bit fiddly to get it back in. Other than that I'm happy as I can be with my purchase. It will accompany me to Africa next year as my Safari watch.
This review made me buy the ny0040-17l with the blue sunburst dial ☀️
Good video review and useful ! Thank you !
Great review. As a collector I have many seiko’s, orient and citizen watches. I have to say in the fine detail citizen have it. There is something special going on when you have one on your wrist especially the diver range.
Good review. I've wanted one with a blue dial, but I'm not paying the inflated price people want for them.
Citizen all the way. Love mine. Had for nearly six years :)
I got one for my birthday a few months ago, and I love it, since the first day it's my daily watch in a tough environment.
It's certified for 200m, but it was tested for 500m by the Italian navy commando when it was chosen as the standard equipment by their "navy seals" for almost 10 year.
Beautiful watch.I had the blue version-gorgeous dial.But it has one major issue-the miyota has too noisy rotor.
I own both this and the skx009. Both have their merits and very hard to say which is best. You can't go wrong with either watch.
Citizen was dominating Seiko in this price category even before their move to exclusivity and limited, new versions of old designs for a premium price. Add the extra QC issues with Seikos on top of that and it is really a no brainer which brand gives you more bang for your budget tier watch collecting buck.
Thanks for the video. I just purchased my first Citizen automatic diver, the blue version to replace my SKX. I still regret selling my SKX because now I can't find it at the same price. I never thought that such basic entry level watches can get that expensive.
Greetings from Scotland!
Wow, cool that you made a video of this oldie. One of my favourite auto divers. Thank you!
It is out of stock at Silvertime...
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I'm sure they'll have it again
I really love my promaster!! I had to ditch the blue strap it came on, as it cheapened it's look. Now with a new seat belt NATO, it no longer looks like a kids toy watch. I do not own an SKX, but still want one.
This watch is amazing! In Europe you can buy the ocean blue version, that one is stunning!
I'll buy it for my next birthday. Luckily i am from the Netherlands, so no problem!
Great review. Thanks.
I’m all the way for the Citizen! Thanks for the review!
Ive got one these. I must of got mine back in 98.. still works well today. I've been diving with it and worn it all the time.. its seen some action...
Interestingly enough, the hands on my Seiko Monster are quite short, especially the the hour hand. This has never been an issue for me.
Thankful that I watched your video before buying. The thing with the crown position now also appears important to me. Thank you for explaining.
Came today I'm impressed got the blue version with red and blue Bezel 👌 thank you this video convinced me !
I just ordered a new one over the skx013k1. Thanks for the video!
Ive got the dark blue European release one.
Awesome little watch!
JkandI still happy with it?
The SEIKO Z 22 strap is awesome! When mine broke I bought a new one for $50.
Love it!Own one bought with 50 euro,second hand, chip money for excelent diver's watch!
definitely citizen... accuracy 2 sec per day for me ( I am a lucky one 😉)
Same here. I'm due to review it soon and the accuracy has blown my mind.
Good job Watch Geek - I've got a NY0040 and always thought about a SKX but have resisted so far (I'll probably get one soon anyhow). I bought a limited NY0080 recently and was disappointed with the bezel, it was really sloppy in comparison to the NY0040.
Mislio sam uzet BN0151 ali nakon ovecrecenzije ipak se odlučio za ovaj. Jedva čekam! :)
does Citizen even sell these Stateside anymore.I,m interested in one.had no idea there was a great time deviation on SKX if not worn daily.one thing I know of the NYOO4O is the weighted rotor on the miota 8215 movement only spins in one direction which obviously makes the Seiko a more efficient movement.
EBay always has loads got US dealers. Bought mine for $215. It needed service as it was 55 sec plus a day. Three weeks later Citizen sent it back plus 5 sec avg since.
i have both, skx and this ny0040, in fact i added the Ray2 of Orient. So among this 3 divers watches, I like the ny0040 so much. it has the substantial quality durability accuracy and beauty all together.
The advantage of having a flat logo on the back instaed of being raised is that it doesnt dig into the skin.
Excellent review
Thanks 😊
Nice piece. Nice review. But I'd have to say I prefer the seiko skx although I would like one of these in my collection.
Love mine. Has a NATO strap & gets rotated regularly with my G Shocks & ProTreks. Keeps excellent time with fantastic lume.
I have one that was bought in 1999 , no idea of manufacture date. It still has the factory stainless bracelet with adjustable clasp ( no idea why the adjuster it is not on every watch in the universe ) . Belonged to my father and I got it when he passed away. It is an excellent watch , never opened , never serviced and keeps excellent time. I think the build quality is very good.. Mine has quite a scratched crystal and a slightly mis-aligned chapter ring , but it is my most prized watch and will never get rid of it for obvious reasons. Also , my caseback is not laser etched , its deeper.
I have been looking for a good entry level watch to buy....though I did not buy this watch (but I ended up buying the NH8380-15E & BN0156-05E), I initially did spend days and many hours looking through all the different Seiko 'dive' watches of various designs....such as the Prospex series and Seiko 5 series.....and many of the online shops mainly featued Seiko watches....but somehow, there was just something that kept me from buying a Seiko: strangely, i could not find any affordable Seiko watch that defined me. Then I looked at Citizen, and it didn't take me long to decide why I chose Citizen: it just fitted me. I own a automatic divers 200m Citizen (bought it in 2011; cant recall the model but it has a Red-Blue bezel and it says 21 Jewels), used it till the strap spoilt, the glass surface was scratched....and I just took it out that day to use when my G shock Casio spoilt when it dropped on the floor. It just worked! In a nutshell, somehow I think Citizen, despite lacking in design diversity as compared to Seiko, is top when it comes to precision. And that is one very important factor. And thanks for making this video....gonna keep the two Citizens for my son when he grows up!
Is the skx comes in the prospex range or it just some up graded seiko 5 ? Because this phat hour & minutes hand diver seems to be from promaster range intended for professional use - marina militare Italian navy frogman wore it for decades
I own 3 different Citizen dive watches and one Seiko Sumo Hulk. I can enjoy all, but also prefer the eco drives I own.
I just bought one of those and didn’t realize what I was buying I like it better than the SKX I think it’s has just as much heritage as the seiko.It gives me much pleasure when I look down on my wrist and see it I’m starting to put this one in the I don’t want to mess it up category instead of my daily driver
Great video. I TOTALLY AGREE
Well covered! Kinda leaning toward Citizen over the better known SKX. 👍
I must admit I do too, now that I handled the Citizen in person, it's just more refined
You've got a nice battle going on here.😜
Skx is ugly and many on the market nowadays have been tampered with
whatsonthewrist what did you go with
Good review, I agree with you, owning both watches. But you forgot to mention another important feature of the citizen: the strap does have an extra insert in which the springbars are sitting. It is a small metal tube which makes it virtually impossible for the springbars to be torn out of the strap. The skx does not have this feature. Another example for the seriousness of the citizen as a dive watch. Also, the bracelet that can be purchased for the citizen does have a ratchet diver extension (to be fair, it lacks classical microadjustments). The skx's jubilee bracelet, on the other hand, is very comfortable and also prevents the sharp crown guard from digging in my wrist (not so with rubber strap, for whatever reason...)
Does the movement on this watch sound rough? Mine sounds like a marble falling down a hole when the rotor stops spinning.
This NY0040 is a wonderful watch. I always go back to this watch in spite of having 20 others to choose from. I will never part with it. I have the white dial (lume) version. Nothing wears as comfortably as this one, even if my Orient also is very nice to wear. Beautiful.
If you like this model , you might consider the BN0150 model , which has similar design, is solar powered and costs 130-150$ you can also get a quality metal bracelet for extra 100$
I know it and had the opportunity to try it on. It's a great watch but just doesn't attract me as much as this
@@WatchGeek I was undecided between the two (auto vs Eco-drive) but that beautiful case was just too desirable.
Awesome review. I have just ordered the coke NY0085 as the blue sun burst looks too glossy for me and the full lume would be too visible for spearfishing. I wish we could have an orange or yellow version back on sale.
Amazing that Seiko still can't get the bezel alignment right even on watches costing north of 1k$
this is now on sale, in romania, at around 200$. I'm also looking at the Citizen BN0190-15E Eco-drive Promaster, at around 250$. I'd get them both, but i also got a certina ds8 powermatic 80, which is a real beauty. guess i'll stick to this one, as a fan of automatic watches. i don't find the shortness of the minute hand annoying or the flouresence differences, this is actually pretty cool. i'm looking for sporty and it appears this matches my needs.
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I own both. I love both.
Good review and I agree with your opinion. My citizen pro master with dark blue sunburst dial gets more wrist time than my SKX. But there is one big disappointment, there are no aftermarket bracelet with fitting end links. I don't like bracelets with straight end links.
stranno strannovasrr good point on aftermarket braclet
Now there is, I found the original bracelet with curved endlinks for about 100 bucks, a little expensive yes, but it's 100 % original.
Thanks man
Fkm tropic rubber strap,looks better than any bracelet
Long Island watch has a nice bracelet with solid end links for this watch, looks stunning on a Jubilee bracelet !
just bought the skx007, might have to buy this one too
Had both. Preferred the Citizen for several reasons. Flipped both for a Certina DS STC powermatic diver which is incoming 👍
I would wear my left handed crown on my right and right handed crown on my left as I usually do. ;)
Excellent review I prefer Skx don’t know if you mentioned hacking capabilities and also I believe the citizen was used by Italian military I would of mentioned that .. just sub good job!
Thanks 😊 I appreciate the subscription. The citizen can be wound but it doesn't have hacking. I forgot to mention the usage in Italian Navy 😔
a lot of watches are better than the skx
any suggestions? at around same price.
@Eric Douglas thanks, will have a look.
@Eric Douglas oh but is there an automatic version, quartz is not my thing.
@@TheChazas Orient Ray 2 is the closest one if you can't find the Citizen, you may try the Vostok Amphibia as well, it's cheaper, mechanical and has a lot of story behind it, but you have to like the look of it.
@@alexfreetime9597 Thank you, I am kinda looking into new Sports 5 becouse of lots of options, I dont care for not having a sew crown, even though it would of been nice. Besides I love the design of the watch, not much into Rolex Homages, the only Rolex I like is Yatchmaster Rose Gold and Datejust. But I simply adore SKX and new 5 Sports line purely becouse of the design. Thank you once again I will look them up.
Totally random, but I saw a reflection of your kid in the watch and it made me laugh because my kid only likes to bother me when im trying to film too 😆
Haha i didn't notice that but you're right about being bothered when filming
Great review, great commentary. Unless I missed it, you didn't comment on the two tone finish on both watches, with the bezel having a brushed finish and the sides of the case having a polished finish. Am I the only one who's bothered by it?
I Have the skx and the citizen must say love the citizen a bit more excellent watch ,great video tnx
Is there available in 2 versions of packaging? With diver tank and without diver tank?
I have Seiko SKX007 for 2 years. Its good watch, but I am going to give it to my father. I bought Citizen NY0040 for myself!
I just got mine adjusted.
This is one highly functional timepiece. And it is green.
hello sir, frankly i prefer this watch more than skx. but at the time when i'm gonna get it, no one willing to sell it within my budget range. so i get the skx instead. it's really hard to find this watch under $150. for me it's more superior than skx. i will keep on looking. :(
I was going to buy either a Seiko Skn805 or the Seiko SRPD76K1 but now I might just get this instead. It will be my first mechanical watch thanks
how often we are watching the back of the watch? There is no time writen there :D I prefer applied hour markers instead of wave on the back.My own opinion of course.
The Citizen. I gave up on Seiko due to QC issues.
I would love to pick up a Citizen Automatic Diver. I have a couple of Eco-es, but no autos from Citizen.
My uncle introduced me to the Citizen Brand, back in the late 90s and it has remained my favorite Watch Brand, to date. It seems to be much underrated, among the Tube’s Watch community tho.... and I don’t understand WHY. Although Channels such as this, have made me come to appreciate Seiko Watches... they’re VERY overrated IMO. Jus too many quality issues ( Chapter Rings, Bezels, Short Hands etc. ) All that said, very good review on this Citizen Piece Sir. Honest and Objective... as it should be 👍🏽
I also love the Citizen line up and quality. I did try a Seiko solar watch and man it had such a crappy metal band and poorly finished dial that I had to let it go. But it sold really fast on eBay, thank gosh for those fan boys. Lol
Great news , citizen will release a new ny008 series in October that is exact copy of ny0040 but with diferent hour markings and hands (they did a limited run in September for asia market) , Also orient will release a new series of diver watches AA000, that look like orient mako USA.
So if it's got different hands and different markers it's not "exactly the same" then is it. Why make a stupid comment. Simple fact is the ny0040 is not being produced any more and if you want one your gonna have to pay more and more as time goes on. No doubt about it this watch is a classic.
My NY0040 (black) stays under 4 seconds a day - never taken off - which is pretty good I think. Apart from that, the things I most appreciate about it are the crown in the 8 o'clock position where it NEVER digs into the back of one's hand; and the easily graspable bezel, where putting a thumbnail into one of the slots gives the most secure grip on a bezel I've ever experienced. These are things I could not do without. If I broke it, I'd have to replace it.
hello, just out if interest, does your bezel have a bit of downwards play on it? i had to return mine because i could press the bezel down bout 1mm all the way round! so annoying!
@@wezo13 I tested it when you said that. I get maybe 0.5-0.25 mm of play at the 30 marking on the bezel. Not a problem for me.
Regarding the Ny-0040, Is it normal to very briefly hear a "mechanical sound" when I first raise this watch to my ear? This is followed by normal "ticking" sounds.
3 years late but yeah likely since miyota are a noisy movt
thank you and its still loud LOL . great watch though
@@JohnDoe-zo2xo
best review of this watch so far imho
Thank you for your kind words 🙏
I own this watcth, and you will be SHOCKT how good it is!!
The new version has engraved Promaster logo on crown. Still more of a tool watch than Skx, love it.
Great video
I own all the SKX models, the 0040-8E is a compliment to the collection. IMHO the inky black dial is its most defining feature. Honestly I get equal enjoyment from both brands.
My biggest gripe is that the Minute hand isn't a bold colour. For a genuine dive watch that is paramount.
As I have said before, This is a great watch. Mine came in a yellow scuba tank. Everything lines up perfectly, unlike my Turtle. It keeps really accurate time as well. I was able to get it from Italy. Ciao.
I ordered mine from the Italianos also. Got a great deal and the SS metal strap. Just use google shopping search.
One hack about this sitizen's stiff strap is to heat it and make a shape of your hand. I did and and strap became much more comfortable!
I love my NY0040
I'm also a Seiko fan but objectively speaking Citizen is much better brand. I've got two SKX's (007 and 009) and a blue NY0040 (plus black on delivery :D ). For me NY0040 is a better watch in every single way. I've got ten Seiko's and half of them have quality control issues - bezel misalignments, chapter ring misalignments, date misalignments. This sucks completely. My only Seiko's without quality control issues are Japan domestic SARB models. I've got 5 Citizen's and NONE of them has any, even the smallest issue, they are all a way better quality watches. Seiko design is great, I love my Monsters, SKX's but I can't stand their garbage quality. Citizen movements are also much more accurate than Seiko's. My vintage, about 40 years old Citizen Eagle 7 is more accurate than new Seiko's with 4R36 or even 6R15.
Citizen sold it's soul, and Seiko continues to innovate (Spring Drive, etc.). That's why Seiko holds more respect in the watch world, and that's why you own multiple Seiko's despite the QC issues. Seiko is simply a better BRAND, despite the issues you noted. Period. (And don't even get me started on GS and Credor....)
@@Chris-es3wf I am a Seiko fan but i must admit Citizen is better quality
If you want accurate buy QUARTZ.And SEIKO is much better brand than CITIZEN.If you look at seikos history youl see that they founded in 1881 and they create the first automatic chronograph watch the first quartz chronograph the first quartz watch the KINETIC and SPRINC DRIVE tehnology.
Look at the Citizen Grand Classic for me that watch is perfection
Upravo sam kupio crni preko dicta.hr prezadovoljan sam
No contest, The Citizen. Its just beautiful and accurate. Purchased this watch twice before and sold them...Why? Never again. I have the blue dial on the blue rubber, its fabulous. Sits well alongside my Combat Sub, also a brilliant watch in every way. PS. My Citizen has hacked since I got it. It has the characteristic wobble when you shake it but the second does halt when I pull the crown to adjust....Very starnge! Its running at plus 3 a day.
can we call it a good cheap watch? can we appreciate the level for the price? HELLYEAH. the defaults this watch has are less bothering than Seiko's ones. this watch is functional, accurate, comfy, cheap, good looking. this is the kinda watch that makes me look at the price of a watch twice before buying it.
I had seikos the 007 and a 1000 euro seiko. And both had misslined indices. I think it must be pure luck to have a seiko with perfect lining 😂 now i switch to citizen. I am super happy.
I had the one with the yellow dial .