My father bought the citizen in 1998. He handed it over to me when I was 18, because I have always loved it. And I basically haven't taken it off since. After 20 years it still works perfectly fine...
@@deanwaller8283 I have a 21 year old promaster that has never been serviced. It has been worn for work daily and I work in heavy engineering so it takes a beating. It still works as well as the day I got it.
I just bought this watch and I can't be more impressed with it. I'm a Diver, Kayaker, Sailor and Water Skier and the crown placement is perfect for wrist articulation. The bezel is mechanically precise, functional and aesthetically pleasing. It has a very robust yet elegant design that gives it tremendous wrist presence. The inky black dial, framed day-date window and the slight spark of red make it visually striking from a distance - mechanically rugged, slightly understated but incredibly handsome. Like a new world red zinfandel, it can be paired with pizza or filet mignon. A gentleman's watch for any occasion.
@@ssazeraca reply after such a long time? Aaahhhhhh I love the internet.... Thank you for the reply!!! Planning on buying one of the promasters soon enough!!
dear TGV ,as happy owner of this piece for the last 10 years among many diver watches.. i just want to bring precisions on a few points about the citizen pro master .. 1. the lume is THE MOST IMPRESSIVE i have ever tested in terms of picking the ambiant light and giving it back ..because of the surface of handles and generous layers applied on them.even a 3 o clock ! 2. the crown position is very good because : it doesn't hurt the hand when flex, it doesn't hook to some gear or stuff passing around during actions like sports or military drilling,it pleases left handed wearers for easy winding, 3.the miyota movement is not the sharpest on the market ..but its robust and as you said this piece is a die hard boy ..a real assault tank ..despite the weak glass showing scratches in time.^^ 4.best value for money on the divers watch market cheap/strong 5.only weak point is the design a bit "rough" its my favourite bad boy at night or in the jungle..beating all my seiko /rolex/ squale /tudor because of the toughness and the lume cheers ! James
james alphajet The crown position is a game changer. As I have broken my left wrist when I was a boy playing outside I am very sensitive and can't wear big watches. The 8oclock position is awesome for that. But as you mentioned it also doesn't stick to clothes/gear that when you are in a rush it matters a lot. Cheers!
I completely agree with you. I just bought the new version with the hacking movement and not only it is the most accurate mechanical Japanese I own (+4 secs a day, out of the box), the lume is absolutely nuclear and the dial one of the blackest blacks I've seen. It wears quite a bit smaller than the true measurements, which I love.
Finally, my beloved Promaster! Among others, I have both the SKX and the NY0040 and I love them both with all their good and bad sides, but this is the watch I would take to the end of the world and back. It is accurate way above my expectations and robust beyond belief. Thanks for this video, I´m looking forward to the comparison and your final verdict.
Hi. You the top one on the chats and I just chose you.. I was left this watch by my dad and it look like it’s been off his arm for a long time. It’s not ticking. Took it to the watch repairs and he said it’s an automatic. So please assist...
@@brettbambouturton3117 If you bought your watch recently then it might be the model with the updated movement type 8204. This is equipped with a second hack. In 2016 the model still had the 8203 movement which isn't hackable. The video is almost 6 years old...
What ho mate! 🇬🇧 At risk of chucking a spanner in your clockworks, reference accuracy: I broke your law of ’No DIY’, and during the first month of my owning my own Promaster, out came my horologist kit (case-back remover, large sewing needle, and sober hands!) and bit by bit, proceeded to adjust. I got it down to 0.46 sec in 24 hrs and it’s stuck to that over the past seven years of my continuous wearing of it. Okay already, it swings around a couple of seconds each way during the month but at the end of it, hand on my heart, it’s still spot-on at an unvarying aggregate of + 0.5 seconds in 24 hours 🤡 PS: thank you for a great site! Also, I am relieved to know that there is at least one other watch obsessive lunatic out there who wears two watches at the same time!
Hey TGV! It´s an old video, but I just wanted to share a bit with you. About 6 months ago I was on the hunt for my first dive watch. After thorough consideration, this video was key for me to eventually lean on getting a NY0040 just in time for vacation. When it arrived, I was eager to try it on and my disappointment was abysmal. It wore so small in comparison with my other pieces, and I didn´t get the hang on the design at all, it just looked small and weird on my wrist. But being a relatively cheap watch, and since I had nothing else that would endure what I intended to do with it, I decided to keep it. I wore it for a full week in greece, making it earn its share with plenty of trecking, lung diving and whatsoever you can imagine in a week of active tourism. And I gotta say, few days into it, it finally clicked in my head. No matter what I did to it during the day, how high I was head diving in the sea, how many bumps it would take against walls and undersea rocks... it calmly kept on ticking on and on, with a deviation of 2 sec per day. Stubbornly steady. And that blue, sunburst dial under the sun! Such a gorgeus sight! And the way it changed to dark navy blue when the sun went down and flashyness was no longer needed, it just took a few days to climb from the bottom to the top of my collection. I am wearing it now, knowing that it is a piece that will never leave the watchbox, and I though it would be nice to re-watch this video, and also to send you a big THANK YOU for sharing this disease with all of us. Keep safe!
Why do I keep watching this video? I've owned this watch for years and I watch the video to remind me of how proud I am to have it. The thing I love most about this over my 3 SKX's is the bezel. It's much easier to use with a 60 click, much easier to grip, and perfectly aligned. I trust this watch with my life and it's been running since 1997 with no service. I know because it was my father's since then, and I was only born in 95! So it's almost as old as me. This is now the SKX killer because the SKX goes for no less than 300 now!!!
I own this and the skx....and for me.its simply no contest the citizen takes it by a country mile,it's robust,far more accurate, reliable slimmer on the wrist,the bezel is far grippier,the comfort on the wrist with the crown at the 8 position is sublime,why don't all watches do this?... honestly I'd take this over just about anything....and let's not forget that the miyota 82-- series has been around since 1977,it's one of the most proven movements there is,the 7s26 can't even come close,I got married wearing my skx...but my citizen to me is utterly indispensable,it's only watch I'd be crushed if I lost And as a final bonus it looks amazing on any strap/bracelet you care to mention,it's not just great "for the price"....it's simply great an all time under rated,and deeply understated classic. Of all my mechanical pieces this is my absolute favourite,and it's not even close. If you're in the market?by it!
Been looking at this piece for years. It's just beutiful and looks so classic. I've been wearing a Seiko Turtle as my daily beater for the last months and thinks It's a bit big. If you know the turtle how would you compare it to the NY0040? Best regards Seb
citizen promaster is simply the best diver watch if we consider the INCREDIBLE affordable price for such INCREDIBLE quality and amazing design and style. Simple the best watch for a man to wear in every moment [non only a diver watch] of the day in every circumstance [at sea, diving, at work every day, free time, elegant outfit at evening events, etc]. You don’t need other watches, the promaster it’s the full package, period.
Really great review! I recently got the full lume version of the NY-0040 as my first official dive watch, partly based on this review and your mention of the watch’s history with the Marina Militare. I recently went scuba diving for the first time and was super excited to bring this watch and put it to the test, and not only did it pass with flying colors, I almost think it looked even better underwater! An amazing true tool watch with vintage style and history
Just get blue version few days ago, its with rubber strap but without decompression table and wih different clasp with Citizen logo on it. Love the watch !
this intro must have been crazy to edit....so good... Seiko = Japan Citizen = Japan Japan makes very good entry level watches.....but not just for a cheap price, but with high quality... Best regards... =)
I just picked up the NY0040 fully lumed and I must say, it is the best bang for buck timepiece out there. As an added bonus, the NY0040s now come with a Miyota 8204 movement which has both hacking & handwinding! Sweet!
4 years later... FYI the SKX was introduced in 1996 and the NY0040 in 1997. Great watches and great channel been seen your videos since the start. Stay safe
It is the second or third time I watch this review. I appreciate the intro showing the Comando Subacquei e Incursori (COMSUBIN) of the Marina Militare Italiana and the petit aircraft carrier Garibaldi in action. I bought one with a metal bracelet today on eBay for a fair price. I can't wait to receive it. Ciao from Italy.
I've wanted the blue dial version of this Watch since I saw one in 1997, and back then it was expensive. To my surprise and absolute delight my daughter bought me the blue sunburst dial model for Christmas 2021 to replace my 9 year old Citizen Pro Master Eco drive Dive watch. I replaced the black rubber strap with a Dark Blue NATO strap, its my daily day time wear, I've done a couple of dives with it and its attracted interest because of its History, I'm very happy with it ,and its a nice addition to my collection, and it has a hacking movement.
I used to own a navy one of these, I loved it. I gave it to a friend after enjoying his admiration of it and both of us enjoying one too many glasses of wine.
I bought this watch based on your review and another video you did. It's my first mechanical watch! 2021 builds use Citizen's 8204 movement which is hackable! The ND tables are gone from the band though. I love the blue dial, but I got the black one because of how inky black it is. Stunning watch for the money. Thanks for the content. It really helped me decide!
I brought the ny0086-16l pepsi just before xmas. And I noticed mine is hackable and doesn't have the decompression writing on the strap. So I wonder if mines a 2021 build?
finally a citiizen promaster...........love those military watches marathon, glycine, etc i love citizens i think i've said that before personally i think the promaster definitely gives an skx a run for its but both great
Hot damn, best quality video production of any 'review' channel dare I say? I've decided this is going to be my first automatic, now I just to find one on special. Cheers
I’ve had my eco drive pro master diver for about a year now and it’s easily in my top 3 favorite watches! I thought about putting it on a NATO strap but there’s just something unique with the rubber strap with the navy dive tables. I may buy a NATO to throw on from time to time!
I just bought a NY0040-09E (one E), black looks exactly like the one in this video from a European dive shop. $170 + $50 in tax and shipping. The watch shipped from Germany and the dial says 8203 caliber but the back says 8204 and this watch hacks. Was not expecting that. Very happy.
I found a blue one for $230 US and I love it. I’m left handed and it wears just the way I want. It looks great on Natos and Zulus. Thanks for the excellent review.
I recently bought the blue version with its beautiful blue sunburst dial and I've just ordered the black dial version which is still readily available here in Europe. Wearing the watch really gives me lots of pleasure. Cheers!
The model supplied to the Italian Navy special forces was stamped "Marina Militare" on the dial and also reported the sign 500M, at the bottom of it. Over the years, the Squales and the Breil Manta (navy stamped as well) were also supplied. High quality watches at an affordable price, but not now: they are also sold at double or triple their old market price...
I've owned one of these for 20 years & it's been superb. not a single functional issue. In some respects superior to my swiss divers that were multiple times more expensive. very robust & extremely comfortable. people seem to miss reviewing the sides & back of the watch which is a big part of what sets it apart - the profile of the body is sublimely contoured & engineered. I *believe* Citizen stopped producing these in Japan at some stage during production & only the movement was Japanese thereafter. also, my early model has the engraved logo back & more nicely machined gold-coloured crown than the one reviewed. the earlier ones were nicer ;-)
It's 7 years later and I'm watching your review for the third time... 3 days ago I got me a NY0040 in black, and it is my first automatic and my first proper diver watch. Your description is spot on, it's absolutely comfortable on a small wrist. Great rubber strap, let's the skin breathe while securing the watch. Finally, the current models have hacking.
Me and my girl found this watch on holiday two months ago and she decided to gift it to me as a christmas present. This watch is just great for me. It can take a pure beating, i can wear it while diving and it just looks breathtaking in person. Might switch to a nato strap later on though :)
Come back to this video as this citizen is the new king over the skx007 since the prices for the skx have gone crazy , citizen definitely bang for buck now, just purchased one myself.
Watching the video after 4 years. You have changed so much TGV. Anyway I bought the blue version of that piece which isn't hard to find in Greece. It is a great piece and I'm looking forward for having great adventures with it!
Great watch. I had one, but I sold it - nothing wrong with the watch, just needed the money at that time. Anyway, I like very much design of the bezel - it's very distinctive to the watch. The only thing, I don't like is greenish tone of the lume in comparison with SKX lume. Great review, Tristano! Can't wait for the duel!
The Italian Navy is much vaunted, I have two of these, one black dial, one with a really bright green dial, witch is still unboxed. Presumably divers swim underwater , forwards, therefore it makes perfect sense to place the crown away from the slip stream. Its a masterpiece !
I was thinking that im an outdated person who looking for a citizen watch from decades ago for scuba diving. because none of recent dive watches suits me. I actually just ordered and now im waiting for this watch. Your review sums up all my inner battle of choosing promaster and skx. after tons of reviewing i finally choose promaster over skx. skx turns out too bulky, too flashy and too mainstream. I just still cant believe you did this review on 2016!!!! Keep up the good work, i really enjoy your channel. cant wait for the duels. cheers ;)
The lowest price you can find it in Europe now, is around 180 Euros. Most stores sell it for 200-250 euros. In a big retail store i found this Citizen ny0040 for 305 Euros!!! I bought it 1 year ago for 150 E. This model consider to be one of the best watches of Citizen and the price will go up as the time goes by. Especialy if the production stops
i think, since the promaster has been updated (serial-no now starts with R instead S) and skx-prices have risen, it is the better choice and you get a screw-down-crown and hacking. still one of the best channels. best regards from germany
Citizen do amazin watches across the board. Want a dress watch - citizen Sports watch - citizen Diver - citizen I can’t believe people will pay nearly £300 for a Michael Kors or Hugo Boss watch when thing like this are available ✌️
Killer intro and clip TGV ! FYI I've managed to purchase 2 of these divers since watching your reviews. A blue and a black version. They're both keeping time within +4 to 5 sec/day !! I also flip the watch around so my right hand adjusts the crown easily. Keep up the great work and Thank you \m/
Just came across this old school video of yours. This type of in-depth look at timepieces is what brought me to your channel. Not just the watch itself but all the history surrounding it. Onward and upward, friend!
Now THAT was an intro.... Loved the review, thanks TGV great vid as always!
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I have this same watch that I bought back in 1997 the year it came out. The original strap broke long time ago and I have replaced it with a metal band recently since I have started wearing it again. Mine is pretty scratched up though since I used it daily back then and wore it diving regularly. It's a great watch period!
Watch novice here, but after watching a lot of your videos I'm in love with the Citizen Promaster Full Lume - NY0040-09W... I see them being sold here and there, but I'm unsure about the right place to buy this beautiful timepiece, can anyone help point me in the right direction?... Is it ok to buy it from anywhere, or are there things I need to look out for?
Cheers from 2024. I just picked up 2 of these. One new and one vintage. The vintage has the 8202. I love the left side crown. But I do rotate the watch upside down to operate it lol. Great video - thank you.
After a eight month hiatus from purchasing watches(damn you Covid) I’m going back in purchasing a couple of modestly priced watches I’ve always wanted. This one arrives today. It’s the second time I watched your review and it’s great! thanks!
+Aron Dunlap Thank you Aron! I am sure you will be even more proud to wear yours now, I must admit, I feel rather late to the party on this one, LOVE IT! Best regards, TGV
Hi, TGV. I've been following your channel for the past few months and glad to see your thoughts today on this Citizen diver. I've had the lume dial version of this watch for about half a year and love it. I can't wait to see the duel with the SKX.
Hi TGV - Thanks for the Citizen Presentation. I've not considered a Citizen before but was impressed with its features. Also, really liked the intro action. Cheers!
I was thinking that im an outdated person, looking for a citizen watch from decades ago for my scuba diving. I actually ordered and waiting for this very watch. Your review really sums up my internal battle choosing between skx with the promaster. Cant believe you did this on 2016. Thank you for your review ;)
I had the Citizen Promaster Auto and i sold it off. I missed it so much. I put another one on order this week. They are getting hard to find. Seems like most of these are distributed only in Europe now.
I have the NY2300 Pepsi with the crown in the 3 o'clock position. I assume it's basically the same watch? Great looking watch. Built to last a long time 👍
Good evening, It's always a real pleasure to watch your videos and to listen to you (and it's easy - I'm french-)! They are very professional and your opinions look like a reference. Please, cary on your so nice videos about watches, all watches ! Regards from FRANCE.
I really thought I had a good range of divers, but that crown at the 8 o'clock position looks quite different and needs to be in my collection! haha thanks for the review TGV, nice video as always!
Before I bought my skx I of course considered the citizen. And i think it technically gives more for the money. But i picked the Seiko not only because i liked the more simplistic styling, but the brand has such a rich history in dive watches i knew i could trust the skx to last forever.
My NY0040-17L just arrived today. Even though Jomashop advertised it as having a non-hacking Miyota 8203 movement, the one I received actually has a Miyota 8204 with second hand hacking! It's a brilliant watch...it's an inexpensive and utilitarian tool watch and I absolutely love it.
Looking forward to seeing the duel. Should be interesting. The glossy black dial and metal indices give the Citizen a slightly upscale look, reminiscent of a much more expensive piece.
Nice review my friend....I,m in the Citizen camp on this one...Own 4 NY0400,s.....Compared to my 2 SKX,s......And I have found the Citizen Movement to be more accurate, also prefer the Crown Position on the Promaster, and the Bezel is one of my favourites. Of course the added Kudos of being issued to the Marina Militare gives it extra gravitas. Because of your video...I,m now wearing the fully lumed dial version on a Zulu.....Peace and Porridge ;)
Great sport watch for someone who doesn't want a behemoth on their wrist. Perfect size for me. Also feels robust in the hand. I even like the oem strap better than I thought I would. If you look closely you'll see that there are metal inner linings in the strap where the spring bars pass through. A tiny detail, but yet another testament to the overall quality of the piece. Great vid btw.
Your video made me research the Italian Navy version and it looks like its spec was 500m and not 200 but tested to 500m. The dial on the photo I saw clearly states 500m. Loved the review though, the autos are on my radar. I'm a new convert to Citizen dive watches and will retire my Omega Seamaster and Planet Ocean Chronograph for daily wear in favour of these marvellous value watches. Currently wearing Promaster Eco Drive Ecozilla on the yellow strap, I so love it. It's so go anywhere ❤
I bought that watch in the Pepsi model wish I would have gotten the seiko no hacking the case was supposed to blue and it's black its not convertible at all the back of the watch sticks up to high I tried to put a leather NATO strap on it and it sticks up high in the air and the fase is much too small for a dive watch was s waste of money
Wow! Fantastic intro! Luv it. Never know this citizen diver, very interesting. Thanks for reviewing it, will certainly check it out in details. Great vid!
I feel that this watch is so much more than 'entry level', I also find that its a far better watch in every way. It winds, its consistently very accurate, its unique and gorgeous and at 'any price point' as you keep saying, endlessly! I think the SKX is just mediocre and nothing special. This watch is wonderful and I only have three watches a 14060 no date, an Explorer and this. Say no more! Know when your holding a fabulous watch for actual diving or just desk , its comfortable legible thin and rugged. It is going to be a marvellous watch 'at any price poin't and at 'any level of entry'.
I will buy this watch some day! Its indices and hands really make this watch unique and interesting. The quality and style make this watch look very expensive and like a timeless classic. But thats just my opinion and taste! Thanks again for these entertaining and well made content Sir!
Siempre he querido este citizen promaster, no me lo regalas ??? 😟😊 me encanta tu canal y más viendo todos los relojes que sacas te mando saludos desde MÉXICO CITY
My father bought the citizen in 1998. He handed it over to me when I was 18, because I have always loved it. And I basically haven't taken it off since. After 20 years it still works perfectly fine...
It's never been serviced?
@@deanwaller8283 I have a 21 year old promaster that has never been serviced. It has been worn for work daily and I work in heavy engineering so it takes a beating. It still works as well as the day I got it.
@@deanwaller8283 i've had one for 11 years now. worn 24/7, about +3 seconds a day. never serviced. if it aint broke.....
@@vastianocara1792 that's pretty fucking awesome for an auto
How about a eco drive ?
I just bought this watch and I can't be more impressed with it. I'm a Diver, Kayaker, Sailor and Water Skier and the crown placement is perfect for wrist articulation. The bezel is mechanically precise, functional and aesthetically pleasing. It has a very robust yet elegant design that gives it tremendous wrist presence. The inky black dial, framed day-date window and the slight spark of red make it visually striking from a distance - mechanically rugged, slightly understated but incredibly handsome. Like a new world red zinfandel, it can be paired with pizza or filet mignon. A gentleman's watch for any occasion.
How does yours hold up six years later?
@OscarOSullivan Still in my weekly rotation and still loving it. I even bought another with a blue dial. Just a great time piece.
@@ssazeraca reply after such a long time? Aaahhhhhh I love the internet.... Thank you for the reply!!! Planning on buying one of the promasters soon enough!!
dear TGV ,as happy owner of this piece for the last 10 years among many diver watches..
i just want to bring precisions on a few points about the citizen pro master ..
1. the lume is THE MOST IMPRESSIVE i have ever tested in terms of picking the ambiant light and giving it back ..because of the surface of handles and generous layers applied on them.even a 3 o clock !
2. the crown position is very good because : it doesn't hurt the hand when flex, it doesn't hook to some gear or stuff passing around during actions like sports or military drilling,it pleases left handed wearers for easy winding,
3.the miyota movement is not the sharpest on the market ..but its robust
and as you said this piece is a die hard boy ..a real assault tank ..despite the weak glass showing scratches in time.^^
4.best value for money on the divers watch market cheap/strong
5.only weak point is the design a bit "rough"
its my favourite bad boy at night or in the jungle..beating all my seiko /rolex/ squale /tudor
because of the toughness and the lume
cheers ! James
james alphajet The crown position is a game changer. As I have broken my left wrist when I was a boy playing outside I am very sensitive and can't wear big watches. The 8oclock position is awesome for that. But as you mentioned it also doesn't stick to clothes/gear that when you are in a rush it matters a lot.
Cheers!
I completely agree with you. I just bought the new version with the hacking movement and not only it is the most accurate mechanical Japanese I own (+4 secs a day, out of the box), the lume is absolutely nuclear and the dial one of the blackest blacks I've seen. It wears quite a bit smaller than the true measurements, which I love.
Mine is the blue dialled on a green grey CWC NATO with superb lume actually lines up unlike a Seiko diver and runs well within specification
Finally, my beloved Promaster! Among others, I have both the SKX and the NY0040 and I love them both with all their good and bad sides, but this is the watch I would take to the end of the world and back. It is accurate way above my expectations and robust beyond belief. Thanks for this video, I´m looking forward to the comparison and your final verdict.
Hi. You the top one on the chats and I just chose you..
I was left this watch by my dad and it look like it’s been off his arm for a long time. It’s not ticking. Took it to the watch repairs and he said it’s an automatic.
So please assist...
My citizen pro master has hacking, and is the exact model shown on the video?
@@brettbambouturton3117 If you bought your watch recently then it might be the model with the updated movement type 8204. This is equipped with a second hack. In 2016 the model still had the 8203 movement which isn't hackable. The video is almost 6 years old...
@@itumelengmmatli5913 You chose him 😳😦🤯
What ho mate! 🇬🇧 At risk of chucking a spanner in your clockworks, reference accuracy: I broke your law of ’No DIY’, and during the first month of my owning my own Promaster, out came my horologist kit (case-back remover, large sewing needle, and sober hands!) and bit by bit, proceeded to adjust. I got it down to 0.46 sec in 24 hrs and it’s stuck to that over the past seven years of my continuous wearing of it. Okay already, it swings around a couple of seconds each way during the month but at the end of it, hand on my heart, it’s still spot-on at an unvarying aggregate of + 0.5 seconds in 24 hours 🤡 PS: thank you for a great site! Also, I am relieved to know that there is at least one other watch obsessive lunatic out there who wears two watches at the same time!
Great to know mine has great accuracy potential
Watching this video three years after you made it I actually bought one and with the current conditions I think it makes way more sense than SKX
3 years after this comment, the comment has gotten extremely true
@Anirossa 3 years later I still have it I even bought an skx I still like this better than the skx
Hey TGV! It´s an old video, but I just wanted to share a bit with you.
About 6 months ago I was on the hunt for my first dive watch. After thorough consideration, this video was key for me to eventually lean on getting a NY0040 just in time for vacation.
When it arrived, I was eager to try it on and my disappointment was abysmal. It wore so small in comparison with my other pieces, and I didn´t get the hang on the design at all, it just looked small and weird on my wrist. But being a relatively cheap watch, and since I had nothing else that would endure what I intended to do with it, I decided to keep it.
I wore it for a full week in greece, making it earn its share with plenty of trecking, lung diving and whatsoever you can imagine in a week of active tourism. And I gotta say, few days into it, it finally clicked in my head. No matter what I did to it during the day, how high I was head diving in the sea, how many bumps it would take against walls and undersea rocks... it calmly kept on ticking on and on, with a deviation of 2 sec per day. Stubbornly steady.
And that blue, sunburst dial under the sun! Such a gorgeus sight! And the way it changed to dark navy blue when the sun went down and flashyness was no longer needed, it just took a few days to climb from the bottom to the top of my collection.
I am wearing it now, knowing that it is a piece that will never leave the watchbox, and I though it would be nice to re-watch this video, and also to send you a big THANK YOU for sharing this disease with all of us.
Keep safe!
Why do I keep watching this video? I've owned this watch for years and I watch the video to remind me of how proud I am to have it. The thing I love most about this over my 3 SKX's is the bezel. It's much easier to use with a 60 click, much easier to grip, and perfectly aligned. I trust this watch with my life and it's been running since 1997 with no service. I know because it was my father's since then, and I was only born in 95! So it's almost as old as me. This is now the SKX killer because the SKX goes for no less than 300 now!!!
How is the crystal holding up friend? And how is the power reserve aging?
@@Dilshan_Kasun it's still pristine.
@@salty_terminal_civilian5374 thankyou very much friend.I'm going to buy this.Very exited to use it for many more years to come
@@Dilshan_Kasun it's a damn good watch.
Thankyou very much friend.cheers!
The intros keep getting better!
+Martijn Groot Thank you Martijn :D
Thank you,
Best regards,
TGV
@@theurbangentry What soundtrack you use for this intro? Thank you.
I own this and the skx....and for me.its simply no contest the citizen takes it by a country mile,it's robust,far more accurate, reliable slimmer on the wrist,the bezel is far grippier,the comfort on the wrist with the crown at the 8 position is sublime,why don't all watches do this?... honestly I'd take this over just about anything....and let's not forget that the miyota 82-- series has been around since 1977,it's one of the most proven movements there is,the 7s26 can't even come close,I got married wearing my skx...but my citizen to me is utterly indispensable,it's only watch I'd be crushed if I lost
And as a final bonus it looks amazing on any strap/bracelet you care to mention,it's not just great "for the price"....it's simply great an all time under rated,and deeply understated classic.
Of all my mechanical pieces this is my absolute favourite,and it's not even close.
If you're in the market?by it!
Been looking at this piece for years. It's just beutiful and looks so classic. I've been wearing a Seiko Turtle as my daily beater for the last months and thinks It's a bit big. If you know the turtle how would you compare it to the NY0040? Best regards Seb
@@Sebastian-ot6cp the citizen will absolutely wear smaller than the turtle.
Mine wears like a mid size diver on my wrist
citizen promaster is simply the best diver watch if we consider the INCREDIBLE affordable price for such INCREDIBLE quality and amazing design and style. Simple the best watch for a man to wear in every moment [non only a diver watch] of the day in every circumstance [at sea, diving, at work every day, free time, elegant outfit at evening events, etc].
You don’t need other watches, the promaster it’s the full package, period.
Really great review! I recently got the full lume version of the NY-0040 as my first official dive watch, partly based on this review and your mention of the watch’s history with the Marina Militare. I recently went scuba diving for the first time and was super excited to bring this watch and put it to the test, and not only did it pass with flying colors, I almost think it looked even better underwater! An amazing true tool watch with vintage style and history
I have had the blue dialled NY0040 since Christmas day 2023
Just get blue version few days ago, its with rubber strap but without decompression table and wih different clasp with Citizen logo on it. Love the watch !
Mine is the same except I swapped the strap for a CWC green grey NATO
this intro must have been crazy to edit....so good...
Seiko = Japan
Citizen = Japan
Japan makes very good entry level watches.....but not just for a cheap price, but with high quality...
Best regards... =)
You forget the g-shocks xD
I also think Orient needs to be mentioned!
I just picked up the NY0040 fully lumed and I must say, it is the best bang for buck timepiece out there. As an added bonus, the NY0040s now come with a Miyota 8204 movement which has both hacking & handwinding! Sweet!
How accurate is it? I have a SKX, but don’t wear it much because it’s not so accurate.
R U ready? I’ve worn it for 36 hours & it is spot on accurate!!
4 years later... FYI the SKX was introduced in 1996 and the NY0040 in 1997. Great watches and great channel been seen your videos since the start. Stay safe
It is the second or third time I watch this review. I appreciate the intro showing the Comando Subacquei e Incursori (COMSUBIN) of the Marina Militare Italiana and the petit aircraft carrier Garibaldi in action. I bought one with a metal bracelet today on eBay for a fair price. I can't wait to receive it.
Ciao from Italy.
I've wanted the blue dial version of this Watch since I saw one in 1997, and back then it was expensive. To my surprise and absolute delight my daughter bought me the blue sunburst dial model for Christmas 2021 to replace my 9 year old Citizen Pro Master Eco drive Dive watch. I replaced the black rubber strap with a Dark Blue NATO strap, its my daily day time wear, I've done a couple of dives with it and its attracted interest because of its History, I'm very happy with it ,and its a nice addition to my collection, and it has a hacking movement.
On my birthday wish list is the blue dial version
Got the blue dialled version for Christmas 2023
I have one and mine is only 5+ sec fast per day. Love this watch! Nice video and review!
I'm re-watching the intro because it's so good +the urban gentry
+Isaac Schiff-Lewin Thank you Isaac, very kind :D
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TGV
The stunning deep black ink dial got me loving this more than the SKX
I used to own a navy one of these, I loved it.
I gave it to a friend after enjoying his admiration of it and both of us enjoying one too many glasses of wine.
I bought this watch based on your review and another video you did. It's my first mechanical watch! 2021 builds use Citizen's 8204 movement which is hackable! The ND tables are gone from the band though. I love the blue dial, but I got the black one because of how inky black it is. Stunning watch for the money. Thanks for the content. It really helped me decide!
I brought the ny0086-16l pepsi just before xmas. And I noticed mine is hackable and doesn't have the decompression writing on the strap. So I wonder if mines a 2021 build?
@@carllatham1558 Same. Check it by the serial number. But as I understand it the 8204 movement is a 2021 update.
@@Getsome757 I looked on the rear and 8204 is etched into the case un front of more numbers.
Also the triangle on the bezel is like orient's kamasu
finally a citiizen promaster...........love those military watches marathon, glycine, etc i love citizens i think i've said that before personally i think the promaster definitely gives an skx a run for its but both great
+Brian McCann Thank you Brian, military watches certainly make for good watches.
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TGV
Hot damn, best quality video production of any 'review' channel dare I say? I've decided this is going to be my first automatic, now I just to find one on special. Cheers
Those applied indices are awesome.
Garry Perkins makes it look more expensive.
I’ve had my eco drive pro master diver for about a year now and it’s easily in my top 3 favorite watches! I thought about putting it on a NATO strap but there’s just something unique with the rubber strap with the navy dive tables. I may buy a NATO to throw on from time to time!
How about a rubber nato
I just bought a NY0040-09E (one E), black looks exactly like the one in this video from a European dive shop. $170 + $50 in tax and shipping. The watch shipped from Germany and the dial says 8203 caliber but the back says 8204 and this watch hacks. Was not expecting that. Very happy.
This is the watch channel I always come back to. Modern classic 🖒🖒
I found a blue one for $230 US and I love it. I’m left handed and it wears just the way I want. It looks great on Natos and Zulus. Thanks for the excellent review.
I recently bought the blue version with its beautiful blue sunburst dial and I've just ordered the black dial version which is still readily available here in Europe. Wearing the watch really gives me lots of pleasure. Cheers!
Hey, I know this is an old comment, but I am kind of wondering if I should get the black or the blue version of this watch. What is your opinion?
The model supplied to the Italian Navy special forces was stamped "Marina Militare" on the dial and also reported the sign 500M, at the bottom of it. Over the years, the Squales and the Breil Manta (navy stamped as well) were also supplied. High quality watches at an affordable price, but not now: they are also sold at double or triple their old market price...
Just seen one at nearly £4k in the states. Choke 😤
I've owned one of these for 20 years & it's been superb. not a single functional issue. In some respects superior to my swiss divers that were multiple times more expensive. very robust & extremely comfortable. people seem to miss reviewing the sides & back of the watch which is a big part of what sets it apart - the profile of the body is sublimely contoured & engineered.
I *believe* Citizen stopped producing these in Japan at some stage during production & only the movement was Japanese thereafter. also, my early model has the engraved logo back & more nicely machined gold-coloured crown than the one reviewed. the earlier ones were nicer ;-)
I have 2 blue faced ny0040 and they are an eye grabbing diver more so than my skx009
really great value
It's 7 years later and I'm watching your review for the third time... 3 days ago I got me a NY0040 in black, and it is my first automatic and my first proper diver watch.
Your description is spot on, it's absolutely comfortable on a small wrist. Great rubber strap, let's the skin breathe while securing the watch.
Finally, the current models have hacking.
Just bought the blue version from Germany after watching your review. Amazing watch and brilliant review, TGV!
+Venguin Congrats! Sure you will love it.
Thank you,
Best regards,
TGV
Me and my girl found this watch on holiday two months ago and she decided to gift it to me as a christmas present.
This watch is just great for me.
It can take a pure beating, i can wear it while diving and it just looks breathtaking in person.
Might switch to a nato strap later on though :)
Great intro. Did not know know the history of the this citizen with the Italian navy. Another great review. Cheers, TGV
+Calvin Tan Thank you Calvin, I must admit, it was new to me too!
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TGV
Come back to this video as this citizen is the new king over the skx007 since the prices for the skx have gone crazy , citizen definitely bang for buck now, just purchased one myself.
Thanks for giving Citizen some love. I live near the Citizen facility in California, and they have amazing sales every year, so I own a bunch of them!
Watching the video after 4 years. You have changed so much TGV. Anyway I bought the blue version of that piece which isn't hard to find in Greece. It is a great piece and I'm looking forward for having great adventures with it!
I love the intros and how they're unique to every video. This one just blew me away. Absolutely excellent!
Great watch. I had one, but I sold it - nothing wrong with the watch, just needed the money at that time. Anyway, I like very much design of the bezel - it's very distinctive to the watch. The only thing, I don't like is greenish tone of the lume in comparison with SKX lume. Great review, Tristano! Can't wait for the duel!
+Georgi Ivanov Thank you Georgi, distinctive is the perfect word for it.
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TGV
Governor,
Very interesting to have the SKX confronted to its peers. Good unbiased comparison. I look forward to the duel video.
Best regards,
JRB
+Jean-René Boutin Thank you JRB! :D
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TGV
The Italian Navy is much vaunted, I have two of these, one black dial, one with a really bright green dial, witch is still unboxed. Presumably divers swim underwater , forwards, therefore it makes perfect sense to place the crown away from the slip stream. Its a masterpiece !
I was thinking that im an outdated person who looking for a citizen watch from decades ago for scuba diving. because none of recent dive watches suits me. I actually just ordered and now im waiting for this watch. Your review sums up all my inner battle of choosing promaster and skx. after tons of reviewing i finally choose promaster over skx. skx turns out too bulky, too flashy and too mainstream. I just still cant believe you did this review on 2016!!!! Keep up the good work, i really enjoy your channel. cant wait for the duels. cheers ;)
+dheemazs Thank you, enjoy the Promaster.
Best regards,
TGV
where did you buy it?
I've been having a hard time finding this watch as well
I've been around 30 meters deep several times with the promaster and no problems at all. Every 5 years I change the rubber rings, of course.
The lowest price you can find it in Europe now, is around 180 Euros. Most stores sell it for 200-250 euros. In a big retail store i found this Citizen ny0040 for 305 Euros!!! I bought it 1 year ago for 150 E.
This model consider to be one of the best watches of Citizen and the price will go up as the time goes by. Especialy if the production stops
i think, since the promaster has been updated (serial-no now starts with R instead S) and skx-prices have risen, it is the better choice and you get a screw-down-crown and hacking. still one of the best channels. best regards from germany
I found the blue version you have mentioned and purchased it a few seconds ago. Brand new from Germany.
Citizen do amazin watches across the board.
Want a dress watch - citizen
Sports watch - citizen
Diver - citizen
I can’t believe people will pay nearly £300 for a Michael Kors or Hugo Boss watch when thing like this are available ✌️
Man your intros are always spot on
Killer intro and clip TGV !
FYI I've managed to purchase
2 of these divers since watching
your reviews.
A blue and a black version.
They're both keeping time within
+4 to 5 sec/day !!
I also flip the watch around so my right
hand adjusts the crown easily.
Keep up the great work and
Thank you \m/
You looked so serious back then. Now you look happy. I´m glad about that. Keep it up with the videos, better and better every day. Cheers!
Just came across this old school video of yours. This type of in-depth look at timepieces is what brought me to your channel. Not just the watch itself but all the history surrounding it. Onward and upward, friend!
Now THAT was an intro.... Loved the review, thanks TGV great vid as always!
I have this same watch that I bought back in 1997 the year it came out. The original strap broke long time ago and I have replaced it with a metal band recently since I have started wearing it again. Mine is pretty scratched up though since I used it daily back then and wore it diving regularly. It's a great watch period!
On my birthday wishlist
Ok, l'intro mi ha decisamente emozionato, e se avevo ancora qualche dubbio sull'acquisto ho assolutamente risolto. Thank you man!
It's amazing how this video came out right before I was searching information on the watch I was gifted 5 years ago. So proud of it now!
So glad to hear! Thank you,
Best regards,
TGV
thank you so much for reviewing this, never owned a citizen before, this is my daily watch now.
NOW the promaster is the king of this price range, because SKX has left the place ;)
I just bought the watch in blue!! It's gorgeous, and your videos is the reason I learn about it!! Thank you so much from Greece 😉
Το ἔχεις ἀκόμη;
@@ΠαῦλοςΠαυλίδης-χ7θ ναι το έχω, κάθε μέρα το φοράω, τρομερό ρολόι!!!
@@user-kx5ir7vk2s ναὶ καὶ ἐγὼ το παρήγγειλα πρὶν ἀπὸ λίγο
@@ΠαῦλοςΠαυλίδης-χ7θ πολύ καλή επιλογή, με γεια!!
@@user-kx5ir7vk2s εὐχαριστῶ πολύ
Watch novice here, but after watching a lot of your videos I'm in love with the Citizen Promaster Full Lume - NY0040-09W... I see them being sold here and there, but I'm unsure about the right place to buy this beautiful timepiece, can anyone help point me in the right direction?... Is it ok to buy it from anywhere, or are there things I need to look out for?
The best intro yet and yet another watch I didn't have on my radar. Looking forward to the review.
+Malte Sumpf Thank you :D
Best regards,
TGV
Cheers from 2024. I just picked up 2 of these. One new and one vintage. The vintage has the 8202. I love the left side crown. But I do rotate the watch upside down to operate it lol. Great video - thank you.
After a eight month hiatus from purchasing watches(damn you Covid) I’m going back in purchasing a couple of modestly priced watches I’ve always wanted. This one arrives today. It’s the second time I watched your review and it’s great! thanks!
Great review, I had no idea about the Italian military history. And testing to 500m, awesome!! I love mine. Have a good one:-)
+Aron Dunlap Thank you Aron! I am sure you will be even more proud to wear yours now, I must admit, I feel rather late to the party on this one, LOVE IT!
Best regards,
TGV
Hi, TGV. I've been following your channel for the past few months and glad to see your thoughts today on this Citizen diver.
I've had the lume dial version of this watch for about half a year and love it. I can't wait to see the duel with the SKX.
+Makki Esteban Thank you Makki! Sorry it took so long.
Best regards,
TGV
That's one hell of an intro! Well done bro. I really like this watch but, too bad it's not a bit bigger.
+XKCommander Thank you my friend.
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TGV
Hi TGV - Thanks for the Citizen Presentation. I've not considered a Citizen before but was impressed with its features. Also, really liked the intro action. Cheers!
+John Viano Thank you John :D
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TGV
„The Urban GENTRY“ reviews a CITIZEN - Oh the irony... :D
But anyway, you inspired me to actually pull the trigger on this one. I love it!
😂
I was thinking that im an outdated person, looking for a citizen watch from decades ago for my scuba diving. I actually ordered and waiting for this very watch. Your review really sums up my internal battle choosing between skx with the promaster. Cant believe you did this on 2016. Thank you for your review ;)
I had the Citizen Promaster Auto and i sold it off. I missed it so much. I put another one on order this week. They are getting hard to find. Seems like most of these are distributed only in Europe now.
I have the NY2300 Pepsi with the crown in the 3 o'clock position. I assume it's basically the same watch? Great looking watch. Built to last a long time 👍
Good evening,
It's always a real pleasure to watch your videos and to listen to you (and it's easy - I'm french-)! They are very professional and your opinions look like a reference. Please, cary on your so nice videos about watches, all watches ! Regards from FRANCE.
1 great year with it...just wear it and forget it ! (I love the position of the crown,unusual and does not bite your wrist ! )
Bombproof !
You said you didn't see those hands before. I have a vintage Q&Q(Citizen) from 1997 with exactly those hands, they are really beautiful.
Is marina militare is real 500m dive watch
I really thought I had a good range of divers, but that crown at the 8 o'clock position looks quite different and needs to be in my collection! haha thanks for the review TGV, nice video as always!
+Shawn T Thank you Shawn!
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TGV
Before I bought my skx I of course considered the citizen. And i think it technically gives more for the money. But i picked the Seiko not only because i liked the more simplistic styling, but the brand has such a rich history in dive watches i knew i could trust the skx to last forever.
Then you missed out,I have both and the citizen SMOKES the skx
My NY0040-17L just arrived today. Even though Jomashop advertised it as having a non-hacking Miyota 8203 movement, the one I received actually has a Miyota 8204 with second hand hacking! It's a brilliant watch...it's an inexpensive and utilitarian tool watch and I absolutely love it.
I have the blue faced promaster. Great everyday watch.
Looking forward to seeing the duel. Should be interesting. The glossy black dial and metal indices give the Citizen a slightly upscale look, reminiscent of a much more expensive piece.
+Robert Sears Thank you Robert, I agree about the dial, certainly a more refined look.
Best regards,
TGV
Thought I was watching a movie.. 👍🏼👌🏼 great review!
+graz ryan Thank you :D
Best regards,
TGV
I like the SKX too but this Citizen is the better watch in almost every way.
Nice review my friend....I,m in the Citizen camp on this one...Own 4 NY0400,s.....Compared to my 2 SKX,s......And I have found the Citizen Movement to be more accurate, also prefer the Crown Position on the Promaster, and the Bezel is one of my favourites. Of course the added Kudos of being issued to the Marina Militare gives it extra gravitas. Because of your video...I,m now wearing the fully lumed dial version on a Zulu.....Peace and Porridge ;)
no evidence for this fact - Marina Militare!
I am in love with the dial!
Perfect alignment of the crown with the indices. Skx has alignment issues
I just got the Citizen promaster ecodrive BN4044-15E and i love it! - this will be my EDC watch now! thanks for the video - greets, Levi
My uncle got me that one 11 years ago, still wear it daily, sadly it doesn't glow that strong anymore :)
Robert Stewart here. Glad you like and great review.
+b20ef Robert!
Thank you again my friend.
Best regards,
TGV
LOL
Great sport watch for someone who doesn't want a behemoth on their wrist. Perfect size for me. Also feels robust in the hand. I even like the oem strap better than I thought I would. If you look closely you'll see that there are metal inner linings in the strap where the spring bars pass through. A tiny detail, but yet another testament to the overall quality of the piece. Great vid btw.
Thank you James, I could to agree more. Well put sir.
Best regards,
TGV
Your video made me research the Italian Navy version and it looks like its spec was 500m and not 200 but tested to 500m. The dial on the photo I saw clearly states 500m. Loved the review though, the autos are on my radar. I'm a new convert to Citizen dive watches and will retire my Omega Seamaster and Planet Ocean Chronograph for daily wear in favour of these marvellous value watches. Currently wearing Promaster Eco Drive Ecozilla on the yellow strap, I so love it. It's so go anywhere ❤
W l’ Italia man! Hope you come back to italy soon !
I bought that watch in the Pepsi model wish I would have gotten the seiko no hacking the case was supposed to blue and it's black its not convertible at all the back of the watch sticks up to high I tried to put a leather NATO strap on it and it sticks up high in the air and the fase is much too small for a dive watch was s waste of money
Fantastic video once again and that is just a great intro you are becoming the Scorsese of UA-cam just loving the videos :-)
+AH H LOL, too kind my friend.
Thank you,
Best regards,
TGV
Damn it.
Your intros is what gets to me
I WANT THIS WATCH NOW
of course in the blue not the common black one
can't wait for my pay check lol
Wow! Fantastic intro! Luv it. Never know this citizen diver, very interesting. Thanks for reviewing it, will certainly check it out in details. Great vid!
+POH TECK HIAN Thank you PTH!
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TGV
I feel that this watch is so much more than 'entry level', I also find that its a far better watch in every way. It winds, its consistently very accurate, its unique and gorgeous and at 'any price point' as you keep saying, endlessly! I think the SKX is just mediocre and nothing special. This watch is wonderful and I only have three watches a 14060 no date, an Explorer and this. Say no more! Know when your holding a fabulous watch for actual diving or just desk , its comfortable legible thin and rugged. It is going to be a marvellous watch 'at any price poin't and at 'any level of entry'.
I will buy this watch some day! Its indices and hands really make this watch unique and interesting. The quality and style make this watch look very expensive and like a timeless classic. But thats just my opinion and taste! Thanks again for these entertaining and well made content Sir!
Great video, I like your new intro's !
I think that citizen is a really good alternative to a skx.
Greetings from The Netherlands !
+Powerskilzz Hear hear and thank you!
Best regards,
TGV
Siempre he querido este citizen promaster, no me lo regalas ??? 😟😊 me encanta tu canal y más viendo todos los relojes que sacas te mando saludos desde MÉXICO CITY
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