Excavating the Susquehannock
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- The past speaks through what we leave behind. This can be actions or artifacts. Up and down the river that was named after them, the Susquehannock planted, traded, hunted, built villages, created art, fought with their neighbors, and welcomed the strange people from afar. Debbie Saylor, curator of Indian Steps Museum (Airville, PA) and the Blue Rock Heritage Center in Lancaster, PA will share with us knowledge that has been unearthed and analyzed by archaeologists about this ancient people’s life and lifestyles.
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I just visited your msuem today. I have lived in Quarryville, Pennsylvania all my life, and I just realized that your museum existed. I am going for my master's degree in History at Millersville University in Lancaster County, PA, and eventually going for my PhD. Very insightful talk, and needs to be known more to the public.
Valuable tools would also have been left behind by Native Americans when they were pushed off their land, captured or massacred. I have found things that were never intended to be left behind such as effigies and tools.
All they took were their most prized possessions, their children. Because of that, I am here today!
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Fascinating history! I wish I’d have been exposed to these cultures in my youth as I’m certain I’d have chosen a different career path! Too bad there aren’t mobile exhibitions for schools for children to experience!
My Great-Grandfather was Susquehannock and he was 6'6".
That's amazing! I find Our Indian History Fascinating. No I do not have any connection. Just curious to learn all I can. 😉
Then why did you say "our" history ?@@20greeneyes20
My great grandmother was Susquehannock and my grandfather's brothers were also well over 6' tall.
The Susquehannock had no choice but to adopt the European ways, to survive. Just like we had to blend in with the French, to survive. I am so grateful to my Great-Grandfather for abandoning the culture and saving his family. My land is where my dead lie buried. THE SUSQUEHANNOCK WERE TALL AND WHIIIIITE!
My great grandmother was Susquehannock, but apparently had to adopt a European surname because the official records say her name was Helen Snack, likely the surname of the Swedish family (probably Americanized version of Snök) who employed her as an indentured servant. There is no way my grandpa didn't know who his own mother was and just pulled the name "Susquehannock" out of his bum...
I grew up in Endicott. N Y..The Susquehanna River runs though my town..I was hopeing you could a video sometime of this area..they found an indian village at a place we call Round Top..also Owego NY there was also an indian found..Owego is only 10miles away from Endicott..Owego is also on the Susquehanna River..i enjoy your videos..Awesome Job..With Respect Vincent J. Cirzeveto
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They could speak Iroquois but they had thier own language, I have read where it was almost all throat spoken no mouth or lip movement to form sounds. Ashame so much has been lost and we will never know.
I am a modern descendant and I sound like Peter Steele of Type O Negative or Till Lindemann of Rammstein, so if I got any of their traits, it's high cheek bones, thick neck and stout muscular physique, deep voice, and white skin that very easily turns red in the year's first summer sun, then just tans and darkens with further exposure after that first year's sunburn relaxes. People actually come up to me speaking Spanish in the summer time and I think it's hilarious because I am not Mexican or Spanish at all! 😅
This is the most accurate documentary I've ever seen on the Susquehannock, my great grandmother's native indigenous tribe. Thank you so much for this. 🙏
Please stop lieing 😅😅
@@lesjones5684 I never met her, but I'm pretty sure my mother, aunt, and uncles know who their grandmother was, and I'm pretty sure my grandfather knows who his own mother was. We all knew she was full-blooded Native American, and my grandfather said she was Susquehannock. I very highly doubt my 80+ year old grandpa just pulled the name "Susquehannock", a minority tribe most people haven't even heard of, out of the clear blue sky. We even have a photo of her right here in my mother's living room. We live in Central Ohio and everybody who knows anything about the Susquehannock tribe knows they lived along the Susquehanna River region of Eastern Pennsylvania and were pushed westward by European colonization. They say they were made extinct by a group of radical vigilantes known as the Paxton Boys, but that is simply not true. They continued westward into Ohio, intermingled with other tribes here and became known as the Minqua people. My great grandmother still identified as Susquehannock though, so I presume she knew her roots. Obviously, I am a vastly larger percent Anglo-Saxon than Native American myself and I look far more Germanic than anything else, but my mother's side of the family look nothing like me whatsoever. They look very much like typical Iroquois Native Americans, which the Susquehannock were likely related to in a very distant past. They have long narrow faces with long humped noses and mostly brown eyes with straight dark hair. I don't know where you got the inclination to come on here calling me a liar aside from maybe just viewing my profile pic and judging by my looks alone that I must be 100% European, but you're dead wrong, and that was very rude, incorrect, and borderline racist of you to do. Please take some time to actually think before speaking the next time around.
Stop over here and show me 😅😅😅
Also just for your information the record said that they they could speak Iroquois but that was not their natural language they had another language that none of the Indians around them could understand and that they spoke languages of those around them including Iroquois. They were not related to the Iroquois.
they were said to have not had to move their mouth when they spoke, they spoke from the throat.
From my own personal research, they may have split off from the Iroquois over 1,000 years before the arrival of Europeans in the Americas.
I live on the Juniata River a tributary in Mifflin Co PA. Lots of sites. Our town Lewistown was founded by Smith. I have lots of documentation of sites and encounters from doing research on my hobby metal detecting from Clark’s Ferry to Lewistown. I’m amazed how many sites are here. Large quarry here they would gather chert from.
Great work. You passion shines.
My 7th Great Grandfather was killed by the Susquehannocks in Oct 1675. He was "called up to fight the Indians" as his last will stated in Sept 1675 - and was killed a month later. His home was the Maryland Colony. His Commander was tried for murder for his part in killing 5 Susquehannock leaders during a 6 week seige of a Susquehannock fort. This is all we know right now, but I'm always trying to dig up more information.
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Woah! That's pretty heavy.
Loved this, especially the discussion & pictures of the pottery. I learned pottery in college, how to throw on a kick wheel, using glazes our pottery teacher formulated, and we fired in the college's amazing gas kiln in Glenville, WV. Then as an adult I learned throwing on an electric wheel, buying store-bought glazes, and we fired in the community studio's electric kiln. If I'd ever go back to making pottery now, I'd want to make this kind of round-bottom, no-glaze, incised pottery. Not sure where I'd dig my clay in Oregon at this time...or where I'd fire the pots...no fires allowed anywhere in the summer here due to forest fires...anyway, the video is inspiring.
I wonder if my tiny little thread of Native ancestry is Susquehannock. My grandmother's grandmother is from Lancaster County. She married into the Mennonite community around Mt. Joy in Rapho Township and Manor Township. I can find details of *all* of my ancestry, all of my mom's ancestry back to the 1100s, my dad's father's ancestry to Germany where we're still connected with his relatives, but my dad's mom's ancestry...I can go back to the picture of my grandmother's grandmother, and that's where it all stops. As I've looked around this evening at photos of Tuscarora people, I found a photo of a "Tuscarora couple, circa 1880." She looks related.
Of course none of us were ever told that we had Native roots. You see what happened to Native people. If they didn't pass for white, they were exterminated.
Greetings from ESVA. My clay adventure started in high school. Right now I am digging and processing my own clay. I am at the point of pencil thin and no cracks. Ah, the lost past down knowledge.
The pottery that has the picture of a person on it kinda looks like a 3D pic. From a distance it looks invisible in away. Great video good job really enjoyed it even though im from Georgia.
Very good video , very interesting as I am relating where I am now to this video , my area where we are hunting artifacts is port walthall and the Appomattox river , john smith supposed to of landed here also , this is a job site and will be erased away forever, we have been fining
Loved the video , wish I could learn more about who was actually here
Fascinating! 👍 Thank you so much for sharing! 😊
I did not know much about the Susquehannocks other than that they had left (what became) Central New York State region
and were not member of the Iroquois Confederacy. If their mortal enemy were the "Massawomeks" (Iroquois Confederacy)
and they were closest to the Onondaga Tribe; it is not surprising that they moved southward to the Susquehanna region of
Pennsylvania.
The southernmost territory of the Onondaga was in the somewhere in region where Cortland county meets Broome county
The Oselic River flows into the Tioughnioga River at Whitney Point, NY. OR (perhaps) a little further south at Chenago Forks,
NY where the Tioughnioga River flows into the Chenango River. In Binghamton, NY the Chenango River flows into the
Susquehanna River.
Further west, the Chemung River flows eastward from Corning, NY towards Elmira, NY where it flows south/north/south
across the NY/PA line and then flowing into the Susquehanna River at Athens, PA
For all who participated in the digs and who contribued to this very informative and pleasant video, Thank you! 😊
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Extremely informative and a fascinating presentation. Thank you. I can't wait to learn more and go on a field trip.
My family took refuge with the Haudenosaunee. In 1920 my Great-Grandfather fled Negaunee, MI in 1920 to WI. We are still here!
Yes, we are. They call us extinct, but we are NOT!
The idea of paleo people using Clovis to hunt mammoths is largely speculative. While we have Clovis found in proximity to a few mammoth kills sites, experimental archaeology is demonstrating that a Clovis was not up to the job of killing these animals. They were most likely used as blades instead of projectile points. There has never once been a mammoth bone found with an imbedded projectile point of any type.
I am sooo glad to hear this. I am in Lancaster PA and have found artifacts also. This helps me understand.
I’m glad I found your channel! I live in the Quarryville area of Lancaster County. I’ll definitely check out your website!
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Were there Palisades like the Romans or the Greeks. Both the Greeks and Romans created palisades to protect their military camps. The Roman historian Livy describes the Greek method as being inferior to that of the Romans during the Second Macedonian War. The Greek stakes were too large to be easily carried and were spaced too far apart. This made it easy for enemies to uproot them and create a large enough gap in which to enter. In contrast, the Romans used smaller and easier to carry stakes which were placed closer together, making them more difficult to uproot.[2]
I grew up going to Indian Steps and live 7 miles from Garrett Island. This tribe has fascinated me since I was a boy. What tribe occupied the King and Queen Seat in Rocks State Park?
I shared the 10 minute video from this with my adult education class in Pennsylvania. We were very sad to hear about the fate of the Susquehannoks :(
The V shapes side to side sometimes joined is said by first peoples to be a symbol of unity or people gathered to exault in ceremony and if you draw that and look at it it makes sense. It is people arms up together. Sometimes circles were depicted at the peaks to represent the heads of the people. It is speculated that the crown shape with points and gems at the peaks is derived from this.
An excellent educational video. Great job. Thank you for sharing.
the V could be to represent a female? like the triangle represents male...?
They shouldn't allow you to excavate because if you found giant bones you'd cover it up. Let's get someone without bias to dig up these sites and someone other than the Smithsonian to come get the bones.
I live on the susquehanna in Harrisburg. their spirit still lives where we are
Susquehannock made it to WI.
Great video. Thank you
My family donated hundreds of locally found items to the museum back in the 1960's & early 70's. One of which was a wooden ceremonial spear point that evoked much excitement... mainly due do a broken rear part of a point that was washed out of the hillside with it, that I've been told was a Clovis point. I've often wondered what has become of it and what more has been learned in regards to it.
Which museum?
@@MarylandNature - Indian Steps.
I've found of a small pocket effigy with an eye, headdress and other markings.
How can I authenticate it ?
I found it near Connellsville, Pa.
Please email pictures and detailed information on your finding to bstrong@marylandnature.org
You are so fortunate! Wow!!
Great work.
Roman face pot
This is one of things that bother me about people in the archeology field here you have an eyewitness a credible eyewitness who credibly reports all sorts of native Americans and when he says these ones were taller than the rest taller than him with a calf 36 in wide with a whole wolf's head hanging from the his chest you say that they discovered some gravesites and the people were 5 ft tall. Here you've done a good presentation and then you make an assertion that's false based on an eyewitness you found some Graves how do you know they were these two presidents said there were giants in these mounds are you saying they were crazy are you saying Captain John Smith couldn't report well you don't know you weren't there you never saw one and those could have been the bones of an Iroquois or anyone that you acquainted because you don't want to say that an account of a giant is accurate when there are doctors doctors who examined bones and wired them together and they were taken away by the Smithsonian. Please break the mold like with the non-alike to native american DNA of the windover mummies. Those mummies d and I did not match modern native American DNA and then they say oh it was native American DNA yeah native American because they were in America and they were native to America but they were not like the native American Indians that we have modernly. It's time for archaeologist to tell the truth I was an archeology student and in all the years I was in school no one ever mentioned a giant when there's so much evidence even in caves when we studied the caves where they found Giants they didn't say the giant bones. Stop lying! You did a great professional presentation but you had to lie in it to cover up for the way archeology wants to relate things there were all sorts of people on the North Americas in South America the paracas mummies are not like most native Americans the windover mummies are not like indians let's just be honest and say they were caucasoids or let's say they're DNA group let's be honest those what 95 bodies down in Florida were Caucasian and older than the natives that were here. What's wrong with being honest because it's a land grab. In fact those mummies in Florida the definitely were not native American as we know it their mommies were to be given to the native Americans even though they weren't related.
Thank you! My Great-Grandfather was a Susquehannock. He was 6'6", as was my Grandfather and brother. Also, we are connected to the Basque of Iberia, as are the Ojibwe. I have been so frustrated when trying to learn about my ancestors. I have even heard a native say that the SiTeCah were the Susquehannock and the Susquehannock are the sasquatch, like we are not even human. I really appreciate your passion and frustration, I feel the same. I feel like they are trying to erase my people and claim my heritage. They're trying to turn us into fairies and giants. Just myths and stories when we are real people. And we are WHITE! All of my blood is European, we just got here sooner!
@@robynpruitt1116 I agree with you 100%. My great grandmother was Susquehannock and my grandfather's brothers were well over 6' tall. My family members often bear blue or green eyes and white skin, as do I, and Rh Negative blood types are common as well, just like the Basque. We were the original Paleo-Europeans who crossed the ice shelves during the Ice Age. We were not Asians who crossed the Bering Strait into present-day Alaska. But aside from a few details like these, this is by far the most accurate documentary I've ever seen on the Susquehannocks. I definitely still applaud these women for their passion and dedication in the creation of this video. 🙏
Is the pot shown at 39:20 an original or reproduction? It's in amazing condition.
You did an excellent presentation but you should stay objective and not insert the fact that they were not tall as described a 36-in calf is a very big human and I'm sure that Smith knew the difference he didn't describe the other Indians that way. No inserting your own concept please because you have a great presentation and that's the only thing that makes it so it's not professional. Like I said you're very professional in your presentation but it makes people doubt whether you would be objective and honest in your findings if you did a dig.
Hi Debbie….do you have an email I could send some photos to…?
Bob -if you email me, I can get you in touch with Debbie. (bstrong@marylandnature.org