Tony's will be deeper, for some unknown, magical reason which makes him sink into the ground, leading the future archaeologists to falsely conclude he was a unit!
The Aboriginals did hunting-gathering, they knew where the plants were at what season, and also knew how to tend the land to give them better yields when they returned the next year. There is evidence that they made fish traps - areas where fish could breed, but not escape.
Have you seen the few shows the team did in the states? Good stuff! Tony and Phil did a show together, alone up in , i think, Montana, searching for dinosaurs . Apparently something Phil has always dreamt of doing. Of course it was a hoot. They truly seem like friends that enjoy each other's company! Btw, I'm just an old woman in the mountains of So Cal. Cheers!
41:07… I’m sure this camera angle is what the camera man and time team would have secretly relished as their creative highlight in this particular episode 😂😂
Fall and Winter tides expose many edible mollusks as well as being the time for many fish spawning runs . I would think this would be used primarily in these seasons as access to high abundance high quality food stuffs would be readily available .
I don't think it's all that far fetched to come up with what kind of clothing paleo people likely wore. Much has been found in the way of decorative beads etc. Just a few 100 years ago when European people arrived in America and found primitive stone age people.and they made beautiful and functional clothing. Humankind has always been creative. That said, I would so much love to be there with these amazing archaeogists. The ones who are no longer here are so very missed.
Rebecca... Someone who appreciates the finer finds like Phil and the lady archeologists and not needing something major in size. Unless the finds are huge, Tony will never be satisfied. Tony is so irritating!
I think Tony makes these sort of negative or dismissive observations so that he can be corrected by the experts. He is asking the questions that viewers at home - lay people - would be asking.@@dalekundtz760
30:00 hazelnut, elderberry, raspberry, watching from stolen Ho Chunk land Tutle Island, where we live among these plants still. and hazel, of course, makes wonderously useful wood, deserving of worship, or at least some attention from modern archeologists if they want to grok mesolithic life.
39:00 enter the orox. what did they eat? did humans manage landscape with fire to maintain grasslands for them? please compare and contrast with bison culture of the great plains, T.I.
While sea levels were as much as 120m below current at the last glacial maximum (LGM) around 22,000 years ago, they had risen significantly by 8,000 years ago to only about 10m below current. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Past_sea_level#/media/File:Post-Glacial_Sea_Level.png
As I understood it, the peat layer below gives a maximum possible date. The clump of poo embedded by a heel would offer a clue if the material isn't degraded.
there are people seriously trying to bring an Aurix like creature back by selectively breeding modern cattle... its a long process but if memory serves they are already showing positive results, the people working on it understand the limitations of the attempt but also see the benefits if successful for wider breeding programs... with lots of hard work and luck maybe our descendants will see live Aurix and wooly mammoths walking the earth again
Aurochs apparently were not only huge, but extremely aggressive. I've come across brief notes of Aurochs giving the Roman Legions problems as they marched north along the Rhine River. Romans usually had a forward screen of cavalry and a flanking screen to protect against Germanic ambushes. But they also had to detect and try to run interference against Aurochs. If an Auroch got into the wagon portion of the march column, they could do devastating damage in very short time. Romans also employed hunters on horseback who went further out to hunt game. They tried to supplement their carried food supply as much as possible. From what I've gleaned from various sources is the Aurochs were very similar to today's Spanish Fighting Bulls. Swift, strong for their size, super agile and super nasty. Their horn design is a bad deal for a human or animal. Imagine the same animal roughly 50% larger. Its no wonder the Romans feared them and many pagan religions had bulls as deities due to their power. The very last Auroch died around A.D.1627 of natural causes. I would've loved to seen a mature bull Auroch in the wild, It must have been an adrenaline rush.
@@dwightehowell8179 correct. in some places it begun earlier because the situations and circumstances were right. i nothers it begun later. read up here...en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neolithic
Tony doesn't disappoint me. "This archeology today is so slow.". Yes Tony it is. Anything worth the effort is. I was so proud of Phil standing up and one of the locals laughing at Tony and his dumb comments. These people were not very good or smart at what they were doing. As I stated before on other digs, Tony irritates me as he is NEVER satisfied unless he finds a mosaic tiled floor or some major statue. Phil and others appreciate the small and fine finds of our ancestors and what they accomplished with such rudementory tools. The fine work along the edges of the flint is totally amazing. Tony needs to stay in the classroom and leave the real hard archeology work to those who have the patience and know how to appreciate wonderful craftsmanship of these people they are investigating.
I reckon Tony’s function on the show, in addition to being the presenter, was to say stuff like that to give the archaeologists the opportunity to explain and educate the audience. And maybe he liked to get a bit of a rise out of them while he was at it.
I enjoy time time, but.... (always a but eh?) This episode.for me, questions the necessity to apply so much effort into finding out about 6000 yr old lifestyle.
I was quite shocked to see his illustration depicting them butchering the dogs. Not saying it never happened but dogs were so essential to the hunt of many animals. I watched a documentary about a dog that had a nice burial with lots of fine objects such as food, a spear with even some black beads. It was from about 8k years ago in northern France. So it seems strange that they are butchering them as the men try to take down the auroch when in reality the dogs would've been helping them. 🤔
@jrmckim8980...perhaps you should go back and watch again. As noted by another viewer, the animal being field dressed on the ground is in fact, a deer.
The chances of killing a big beast as they say with a little flint stick is a big zero...thick tuff hide very tuff ... maybe a 100 flint sticks jabbed in great beast.
I always get a hearty laugh when some "scientist" claims that hunting killed off all the mega-fauna. Yeah right.!! The people back then had MUCH easier and smaller game to hunt like whitetail deer, beavers, raccoons, small horses, wild pigs, etc. Why would they pick the largest, hardest to kill mega beasts?? Before the invention of powerful rifles, critters in Africa like Cape Buffalo, elephants would be nearly impossible to kill without getting yourself killed by them. So we're supposed to believe the ancient people carrying sticks with sharp stone drove all these huge beasts to extinction?? The whole idea is in another galaxy apart from reality.
That’s how the show was structured from the beginning. What they do is exploration digs, not intended to fully excavate a site (that takes months if not years). Also, the archeologists are professionals or academics who donated their time to do these on weekends.
So kids 7k years old liked to play in mud, just like kids today. No matter how far back you go, kids will be kids 😊 Nothing has changed but the tools we use. It makes you think 🤔
48:05 - the hunter gatherers didn't die out, they were murdered by the agriculturalists and pastoralists. They had good length of bone and technology, but one hunter at peak physique cannot stand against ten small grain-fed rotten-toothed farmers and their sons wielding pitchforks, especially when the farmers want to burn down the good hunting grounds to grow barley. They were pushed out into lands unsuitable for farming, where the last ones live to this day.
Okay I'm not sure what your talking about as most of all the hunter gatherer people, turned to growing crops + raising cattle, but hunting was still big especially for the fur trade. It just died out as a major thing & the ones that were left eventually joined in. If your talking about species, they all interbreed & they died out that way
@@kimfleury You obviously haven't read Diamond. Look, to put it simply: just because we evolved from apes doesn't mean that there still aren't apes. Similarly, the hunter gatherers didn't just all evolve into agriculture, they were displaced and killed by pastoralists and sedentary societies. Grain is a poor food compared to game and forage, but it's consistent and can create many more humans, albeit malnourished. Our ancestors murdered the nomadic peoples, and the only ones remaining are in the worst lands for farming. The moment we decide we CAN use that land, the survivors (bedouin, maasai) are gone too.
Amazing, finding those footprints! I thought the experiment vasting new ones, was very clever. As for clothes, I doubt shame had been invented yet. If they were acclimated, (temperatures allowing) likely they wore nothing.
Always a fun watch! Thanks Time Team gang!
In 7000 years Phil's and Tony's footprints will make the day of some lucky archaeologist.
Tony's will be deeper, for some unknown, magical reason which makes him sink into the ground, leading the future archaeologists to falsely conclude he was a unit!
um no. you can easily note that the archaeologists who investigated here left footprints.
It was a joke!! Gezzz get over yourself "um no" 😂
@@saveusmilkboy, that's cause he bounces everywhere!
Aw it’s so poignant to see Mick in his heyday. Well missed as is the talented Victor.
And Robin Bush
@@jrmckim 😂😢😮❤😊😊 48:25 😂😢😊❤😮😅😢😢
@@jrmckim 😊😢😂😅😮😊😂🎉😢😅😅😊
@@jrmckim ❤😢😅😅
@@jrmckim 😢❤
Loving these - and the banter!
The Aboriginals did hunting-gathering, they knew where the plants were at what season, and also knew how to tend the land to give them better yields when they returned the next year. There is evidence that they made fish traps - areas where fish could breed, but not escape.
They did that and much much more.
They were practicing permaculture for millenia.
Love from the old lady in Texas God bless you❤ always and forever
Have you seen the few shows the team did in the states?
Good stuff!
Tony and Phil did a show together, alone up in , i think, Montana, searching for dinosaurs .
Apparently something Phil has always dreamt of doing.
Of course it was a hoot. They truly seem like friends that enjoy each other's company!
Btw, I'm just an old woman in the mountains of So Cal.
Cheers!
Love this period of human history and was awesome to see a fellow Kiwi in amongst it
Aren't they usually allowed outside NZ these days?
Gracias por los subtitulo ver documentales y enterarte
As an American I'd volunteer with them just to be with interested/interesting people and have some good British ale afterwards !
Thanks for posting
41:07… I’m sure this camera angle is what the camera man and time team would have secretly relished as their creative highlight in this particular episode 😂😂
The operators of the cameras were not 12-year-old boys.
@@AnnaAnna-uc2ff There have been some 12 year old boys on the set, so, who knows?
Love the characters
Best thing about this episode is Victor at the end ♥️😉
Fall and Winter tides expose many edible mollusks as well as being the time for many fish spawning runs . I would think this would be used primarily in these seasons as access to high abundance high quality food stuffs would be readily available .
Brilliant presentation.
I don't think it's all that far fetched to come up with what kind of clothing paleo people likely wore. Much has been found in the way of decorative beads etc. Just a few 100 years ago when European people arrived in America and found primitive stone age people.and they made beautiful and functional
clothing. Humankind has always been creative.
That said, I would so much love to be there with these amazing archaeogists. The ones who are no longer here are so very missed.
Rebecca... Someone who appreciates the finer finds like Phil and the lady archeologists and not needing something major in size. Unless the finds are huge, Tony will never be satisfied. Tony is so irritating!
I think Tony makes these sort of negative or dismissive observations so that he can be corrected by the experts. He is asking the questions that viewers at home - lay people - would be asking.@@dalekundtz760
@@dalekundtz760 As he's in every episode, you must be highly irritated. For your blood pressure's sake, try a different series.
Primitive? Hardly. Different from Europeans? Who isn't? 😂
flint tools were used to cut the tough plant fibers, which when twisted knotted and knit, housed and clothed the community, then disappeared.
30:00 hazelnut, elderberry, raspberry, watching from stolen Ho Chunk land Tutle Island, where we live among these plants still. and hazel, of course, makes wonderously useful wood, deserving of worship, or at least some attention from modern archeologists if they want to grok mesolithic life.
39:00 enter the orox. what did they eat? did humans manage landscape with fire to maintain grasslands for them? please compare and contrast with bison culture of the great plains, T.I.
Not to mention hides.
@@lorilea3188by hazel do you mean hazelnut or witch hazel?
@@jturtle5318 hazelnuts
Incredible 😊
I love the ancient horn at the beginning of all the vids on this channel. Thanks for all the awesome content. 👌
Phil, what’s with the Daisey Dukes??
He's just feeling pretty...
Thank you.
Ocean levels where hundreds of feet lower then now, so perhaps these people used this area for hunting seasonally as a hunting camp...?
While sea levels were as much as 120m below current at the last glacial maximum (LGM) around 22,000 years ago, they had risen significantly by 8,000 years ago to only about 10m below current. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Past_sea_level#/media/File:Post-Glacial_Sea_Level.png
Baldrick is a LEGEND, Sir Baldick I beg your pardon
I'd be careful walking in the mud.
I knew a friend who had something impale his foot that was hidden under the muck.
painful way to find a microlith.
Seems to me that the "Stone Age" has been mislabeled. It should be known as the "Flint Age". :)
But flint is a stone… 😳😳
@@janvafa9959 lol. It's a joke.
@@maximiliand2544 - I got it … just had to play dumb… after all I AM a blonde!
@@janvafa9959 lol
Block lifting is a common technique in northern British Columbia in the winter. Except that they use chainsaws.
Could have used Naomi and her float tanks.
I don't umderstand how they can possibly date those footprints
As I understood it, the peat layer below gives a maximum possible date. The clump of poo embedded by a heel would offer a clue if the material isn't degraded.
Raspberries are from June/July across the water in Wexford.!
Cement mixer not only good for archeology, its excellent for mixing top dressing for the lawn as well.
no striped Jumpers yet for Professor Aston?
there are people seriously trying to bring an Aurix like creature back by selectively breeding modern cattle... its a long process but if memory serves they are already showing positive results, the people working on it understand the limitations of the attempt but also see the benefits if successful for wider breeding programs... with lots of hard work and luck maybe our descendants will see live Aurix and wooly mammoths walking the earth again
There is a Scottish estate that has 'acheived' this decades ago, they left cattle to themselves and the results have been astounding.
Aurochs apparently were not only huge, but extremely aggressive. I've come across brief notes of Aurochs giving the Roman Legions problems as they marched north along the Rhine River. Romans usually had a forward screen of cavalry and a flanking screen to protect against Germanic ambushes. But they also had to detect and try to run interference against Aurochs. If an Auroch got into the wagon portion of the march column, they could do devastating damage in very short time. Romans also employed hunters on horseback who went further out to hunt game. They tried to supplement their carried food supply as much as possible.
From what I've gleaned from various sources is the Aurochs were very similar to today's Spanish Fighting Bulls. Swift, strong for their size, super agile and super nasty. Their horn design is a bad deal for a human or animal. Imagine the same animal roughly 50% larger. Its no wonder the Romans feared them and many pagan religions had bulls as deities due to their power. The very last Auroch died around A.D.1627 of natural causes.
I would've loved to seen a mature bull Auroch in the wild, It must have been an adrenaline rush.
@@the-nomadcan you give sources?
@@the-nomadbasically a 2 meter tall cape buffalo?
Even though they barely find shit, I fucking love being high and watching these before bed!
From an American, it amazes me how much they find!
Amen!!😂😂😂
So would I! 🇨🇦
Sure looks like it was muddy to me. The mud on top isn't that much different than the mud on the bottom
"Hunter Gatherers" is a Victorian invention...the Mesolithic peoples did settle down, and they had continually occupied settlements.....
Depends on the location and the resources located there.
@@dwightehowell8179 correct. in some places it begun earlier because the situations and circumstances were right. i nothers it begun later. read up here...en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neolithic
41.06 😂 someone has a quirky sense of humour 💦
Tony doesn't disappoint me. "This archeology today is so slow.". Yes Tony it is. Anything worth the effort is. I was so proud of Phil standing up and one of the locals laughing at Tony and his dumb comments. These people were not very good or smart at what they were doing. As I stated before on other digs, Tony irritates me as he is NEVER satisfied unless he finds a mosaic tiled floor or some major statue. Phil and others appreciate the small and fine finds of our ancestors and what they accomplished with such rudementory tools. The fine work along the edges of the flint is totally amazing. Tony needs to stay in the classroom and leave the real hard archeology work to those who have the patience and know how to appreciate wonderful craftsmanship of these people they are investigating.
I reckon Tony’s function on the show, in addition to being the presenter, was to say stuff like that to give the archaeologists the opportunity to explain and educate the audience. And maybe he liked to get a bit of a rise out of them while he was at it.
They could have used a simple sled to transport the blocks of mud...lol....instead of carrying a pallet. Js.
Yes indeed! I was thinking something like a toboggan.
people have been mud larking that flat for 100s of years
"Archaeology With Mr. Bean"
I enjoy time time, but.... (always a but eh?) This episode.for me, questions the necessity to apply so much effort into finding out about 6000 yr old lifestyle.
Are you saying it should be easy or that it isn't worthwhile?
One has to wonder why they just dropped and left their tools. Essentially their cell phones,car keys,lighters...thats what theyre comparable too,no?
Most of the tools left behind were broken
When Tony said hunkey dorky l am 74 I searched the word it'd from 1860 ok
I was quite shocked to see his illustration depicting them butchering the dogs. Not saying it never happened but dogs were so essential to the hunt of many animals. I watched a documentary about a dog that had a nice burial with lots of fine objects such as food, a spear with even some black beads. It was from about 8k years ago in northern France. So it seems strange that they are butchering them as the men try to take down the auroch when in reality the dogs would've been helping them. 🤔
You are easily shocked.
The picture you find shocking, pictured the butchering of of a deer.
Do your dogs have cloven hooves?
Dogs would have been little help taking down a tank with horns.
@jrmckim8980...perhaps you should go back and watch again. As noted by another viewer, the animal being field dressed on the ground is in fact, a deer.
@@mjc11a they’re talking about the illustration at 38:01 - those are definitely dogs.
51.86655601308794, -0.0076688591617792255 - clover shaped outlines in Hertfordshire field.... size of a house?
I knew he was going to say it ...lol...global warming...
The chances of killing a big beast as they say with a little flint stick is a big zero...thick tuff hide very tuff ... maybe a 100 flint sticks jabbed in great beast.
they drove the animals into the mud? first man was a scavanger, more than hunter.
I always get a hearty laugh when some "scientist" claims that hunting killed off all the mega-fauna. Yeah right.!! The people back then had MUCH easier and smaller game to hunt like whitetail deer, beavers, raccoons, small horses, wild pigs, etc. Why would they pick the largest, hardest to kill mega beasts?? Before the invention of powerful rifles, critters in Africa like Cape Buffalo, elephants would be nearly impossible to kill without getting yourself killed by them. So we're supposed to believe the ancient people carrying sticks with sharp stone drove all these huge beasts to extinction?? The whole idea is in another galaxy apart from reality.
The video, did you watch it?, said it wounded and made the auroch bleed, which let them follow with the dogs and kill it.
when fid autock dissapear ad whd did it haPPEN.
So , all Archeologists have dirty fingernails .....stop being so prissy!!
Phil should excavate the dirt under his dreadfully too-long fingernails.
He sends it for lab analysis after each dig😄
I ask why three days, what is the hurry???
That’s how the show was structured from the beginning. What they do is exploration digs, not intended to fully excavate a site (that takes months if not years). Also, the archeologists are professionals or academics who donated their time to do these on weekends.
So kids 7k years old liked to play in mud, just like kids today.
No matter how far back you go, kids will be kids 😊
Nothing has changed but the tools we use. It makes you think 🤔
48:05 - the hunter gatherers didn't die out, they were murdered by the agriculturalists and pastoralists. They had good length of bone and technology, but one hunter at peak physique cannot stand against ten small grain-fed rotten-toothed farmers and their sons wielding pitchforks, especially when the farmers want to burn down the good hunting grounds to grow barley. They were pushed out into lands unsuitable for farming, where the last ones live to this day.
Okay I'm not sure what your talking about as most of all the hunter gatherer people, turned to growing crops + raising cattle, but hunting was still big especially for the fur trade. It just died out as a major thing & the ones that were left eventually joined in. If your talking about species, they all interbreed & they died out that way
@@Ghostvertigo NO, they DID NOT. The hunter-gatherer tribes did NOT become agrarian, they were FORCED OUT of their lands!
Revisionist.
@@kimfleury You obviously haven't read Diamond.
Look, to put it simply: just because we evolved from apes doesn't mean that there still aren't apes. Similarly, the hunter gatherers didn't just all evolve into agriculture, they were displaced and killed by pastoralists and sedentary societies.
Grain is a poor food compared to game and forage, but it's consistent and can create many more humans, albeit malnourished.
Our ancestors murdered the nomadic peoples, and the only ones remaining are in the worst lands for farming. The moment we decide we CAN use that land, the survivors (bedouin, maasai) are gone too.
@@jansenart0 this nonsense has been disproved by modern genetics.
SPECULATION
what bs ..rising sea levels ...it is not happening
Amazing, finding those footprints! I thought the experiment vasting new ones, was very clever.
As for clothes, I doubt shame had been invented yet. If they were acclimated, (temperatures allowing) likely they wore nothing.
Clothing is also about status.
I call BS. On footprint archeology. Looks too much like a WeeGee board mechanic at play.
Thank you.