Here's Why The 2022 Honda Civic Si Is DEFINITELY Worth Buying Now!
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
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the real question is, what dealership will actually sell one for MSRP
Yea I called and found about 1 in every 3 is selling for msrp
Temecula honda 10,000 above msrp
Escondido Honda 3,000 above asking
2,000 in installed dealership options
Hendrick dealers I do not think charge above
Ontario Canada. It is illegal for a dealer to sell a new car over MSRP
@@JHONNYR98 Nice I wish our government would do some more to protect the consumer.
I would love to see Honda come out with a retro Civic with todays technology. The early Civics were so cool.
S2000 motor in this car ….
Just imagine how well the integra will drive because its based off of it. Home run for me
Integra is a civic with integra written on it...
@@1wasinAlpha Always has been.
@@1wasinAlpha And that's not a bad thing!
@@1wasinAlpha Basically, but the Acura is it in hatchback form whereas Civic Si is sedan only.
@@1wasinAlpha i wouldn't say we're getting a proper integra this gen but its still okay cause current gen civic is wonderful and much better than the ilx and not much alot more money than the civic, it's the perfect ilx with integra stamped on it
THe 2022 Honda Civic Si is the Best Civic Si ever. Love this review! Always educational & entertaining
They gotta pay you to make these comments 🤣
I wouldn't mind owning one at all, but can you reaaalllyyyy pass up a nice 8th gen? Even the stock intake sounds wonderful...
Guess it's best if you add in the tech, and upped power, but I just can't part with my 8th gen even 10 years later.
@@volvo09 nope every time you hit vtec you'll know you got the better Si this "best" by them is just for youtube
From a pure driving experience the 6th and 8th gen seem to be the fan favorite, as a daily driver I like my 10th gen.
@@volvo09 I purchased my 8th gen in April 2008 for $20,442 and has been the best car I have ever owned. I hardly drive it anymore except on weekends but could never think of getting rid of it
Very happy this generation of Honda’s performance is coming back! Definitely excited for the Type R
I can drive this one without being embarrassed by the boy racer looks of the previous one.
exactly
Why were you embarrassed lol
Give me back the heated seats and some more aggressive styling and I would say they knocked it out of the park.
Glad to see Nathan happy! Thanks for doing the review. Mine is on order and will be here in March.
These are beautiful but with the pandemic car situation.. these are 35-38k out the door (South Florida). Dealers are marking them the hell up. Their excuse is “Market adjustment due to no sedans on the dealer lots.”
And because it's built in Alliston, Ontario, Honda decided to give the Canadian version a lot more features for less money, which as a Canadian I appreciate.
Wait... How can I buy one from Canada 🤣🤣
I am happy for you, but that makes other cars like the gti gli comparably equipped aside from sunroof as good or better buys considering the extra power.
of course honda has low cost maintenance and reliability VW does not have.
I'm picking mine up in four days pretty excited drove a 2007 si, up untill now full cost 40,324.00 Canadian... ...
Honda and Toyota that only cars I buy
Thing looks huge. Would love to see it parked next to a Camry or Accord from about 5 years ago.
Someone has put the new Civic on the dyno and it's actually putting out 222 hp and 233 ft lbs of torque, a lot more then Honda claims.
I saw a Civic SI dyno video, It seems the power is at 195HP ish on wheel so around 220hp ish on engine.
It could be raised a bit more with simple ECU mod.
Hondata I think was the one that posted that
@@sddyck its someone featuring hondata if i recalled it right
The previous generation is going to age terribly. This new one has mature looks and looks more up scale. It's a nice car no doubt.
In a few years attitudes will change and you will wish you bought one and kept it.
I dont like the type r. But i would bet money in 15-20yrs. It will be the car to have kept .
Hi Nathan, Is the Civic SI worth it to buy with the performance, handling and power that offers?
I wouldn't pay much attention to OEM power ratings. Hondata just put out a dyno video that proves power is up 10% to the wheels and torque is much flatter across the board. Vtec on the exhaust cam has helped.
But Motortrend shows the car is slower, 0-60 and 1/4 mile, and down on trap speed. Doesn't make sense.
@@stevend3753 how much heavier is it? Anyone know?
I know I could look it up, I'll do it later if no response.
@@stevend3753 Yeah I've seen the Motortrend tests that show the 0-60 on the Touring with the turbo engine is about a second slower. That is substantially slower.
@@independentmind85 what are you on about a second slower? I just looked up the Motortrend article on the new Si the last gen is 0.3 seconds faster 0-60 compared to this one and 0.2 seconds for the quarter mile that's great for a car the supposedly loses power and weights more.
@@SpinachLeaf no idea what he’s talking about with the second slower bs
Speed isn’t everything, it’s about the all around package. The si delivers
Yes and No.....Civics are common as lint.
@@buildmorefarms1007 How common something is isn't a performance attribute.
@@groundcontrol6876 You are missing my point....and the opening poster's point also.
Only thing for me is that the lower front grille should of had the honeycomb style like the upper grille. I know it has them but Honda could of removed the horizontal lines and accentuated the honeycombs more. Other than that, not too shabby! 👍
Look at the new Chinese Integra--it's basically the same Civic but with some subtle modifications to the front and rear that really make it a better looking vehicle, and more sporty. Wish they'd have done this here with the Civic.
Upset that the Canadian version gets so many more features. Waiting for the Integra.
Great review- however to your wish list items: the fact that it’s understated is what I love most about it. I think the CTR looks ridiculous. To each his own and I’m sure there are plenty of people who love that type of styling, but the Si started as a sleeper (former owner of an ‘89)
If the interior was higher rent, affordability would drift away. I just drove one yesterday and they’ve made sensible compromises.
I’m tempted, but likely staying w my BRZ
That fuel economy is awesome.
Watch Honda Pro Jason’s video on the differences between the US civic SI and the Canadian civic SI. We’re getting ripped off people
Agree.
I will buy one in a heartbeat.
Nathan is the BEST on this channel. He’s cool, just a cool guy.
Hi guys! Great review!!!! When I watch how Nathan throws his little jokes and remarks (very polite) about these cars and their features- I want to go for beers with Nathan and his crew to listen to their real life stories about these cars behind the cam!! lol
Great review
the styling is SOOOOOO much better than the previous gen which was worse than gen9 which was worse than gen8, which was better than gen7
Currently waiting for my 22 to come in! Two weeks can’t get here fast enough
So far the Si has been resilient to the insane dealer markups the Type R has faced...but the question is how long? The markups are coming, it's just a matter of when and how much.
Yesssss I want to get one to compliment my 8th gen si sedan
Thank you for giving the kid a normal product to advertise. Men and skin care is not the most important subject, but at least it's not below the belt.
If someone has to be initiated by hawking genital grooming products on a family channel, at least man up and make it be the boss, not the new guy.
Using a lotion to hydrate skin? Why not drink more water? Don't be a guayl. (guy+gal)
With all the reviews I'v seen on this 2022 Civic Si makes me want to ask one question! It's no longer in the GTI or even the BRZ segment. Are they shooting for the Lower end Jetta segment?
I wish they made a coupe version of this Si
Which rides better and has a less stiff ride a 2021 Si with active dampers or the 2022 Si?
200 hp and a 6 speed manual with short throws…. Ok….. this is getting me all excited.
We can't match the seat fabric on the front seats to the back seats? That would really annoy me. Not a fan of the size of the new Civic either.. Glad this option is out there, and that it's a manual..
$27k+ for a civic. what times are we in….
And the sport touring hb is 30k lol
@@SIIKAP1 i just watched the video of Honda Jason or whatever comparing the US spec and Canadian spec si. if you want to get weirdly pissed off go take a look too lol! US = more money, less car . CA = less money, more car
Honestly everyone will say Honda's gear shift are the best feeling ever. There are so many other brand lovers who first drive a manual Honda and that's usually the first thing they say.
what do you think about Clio RS Trophy? (previous gen Clio that is)
This car desperately needs another 20 horsepower. I can’t believe the Si only has 200hp in 2022.
It makes 220+ to the hubs. The 200hp claim is low. Hondata has a good video of it on the dyno
@@one2tumble That’s good to hear. They’re probably saying it only has 200 because they don’t want it to step on the Type R’s toes.
dude, you're obsessing about HP, which is something the car journos have been doing for the past 20 years
200 hp is good enough for a car that weighs 2900 pounds.
You should check out Honda Pro Jasons comparison of this in US and Canada specs. The Canadian version is so much better specced?! And for less!
Imma stick to my 8200rpm B16a lightweight Unicorn EK. That engine note echoing off downtown buildings and neighborhoods cant be replaced. And tunnel runs are even better.
Plus my car is stupid easy to repair everything.
Just bought this as my first new car, I've only ever bought used but with the market on used cars it wasn't happening. It's in route to the dealer, can't f****ng wait to have some fun while not guzzling gas
Would be a great bargain if dealers wouldnt put an insane mark up on these, id take one, but not for for 5k over
I just got one as of last week the southeast is between 2800 and 12k over on these.
3000 mile round trip to pa from fl and my 2021 accord 2 l got 37.7 mpg
If only I could get one without 10k of markup
If the type r looks this mature I am getting one.
I knew this car was gonna have 3 pedals when I saw how happy Nathan was from the very beginning. I love manual transmission vehicles.
Hello Nathan, Tommy, Roman and TFL friends, please I want to buy a brand new 2022 Civic and I am really struggling between the more powerful Si and the more confortable (and more features) Hatchback Sport Touring, compared to the Si I’m afraid that the hatchback would be not powerful enough, please I’m requesting a little help here, would you sacrifice the amenities for a more powerful car (Si) or the Hatch is powerful enough ?, thank you in advance 🙏
Depends what you’re using your car for and what kind of driving you do if you have really windy roads then I think that the civic SI should be at the top of your list but if you are casually just drive around the city and are looking for a little bit of pep to get you on the highway or to get the sticky situation the hatchback will do that
@@SWEETVENOM100 Hello Rick, thank you for your prompt response, my main concern is the power of both cars, according to your experience how big is the power between the Civic Si and the Civic Hatchback Sport Touring ?, is it really noticeable ?, thank you in advance…
@@DANIELHERNANDEZ-cp2ym power is subjective. What I mean by that is if you’re driving in the city you’ll need that low end grunt to get you up and going briskly.
If you do highways mostly, then maybe top end power is needed for passing power and merging.
The hatch will be powerful enough and will be negligible power difference between the Si. The hatch is tuned different so the power delivery will feel different.
Honestly it mostly depends on what transmission you’re going with.
If stick - Go Si
If CVT- go hatch and enjoy the comforts.
I went and sat in a Si, today. Let’s just say I’m waiting for my delivery date;-) I’m also on Canada and we get way more content in comparison to the US.
@@SWEETVENOM100 Great reply Mr. Breezy, I think you told me what I needed to hear…
Now that you touched the subject, I love manual transmissions (and ironically both cars bring the manual transmission), nevertheless I’ve been thinking of trying to get used to the CVT (so many people could not be that wrong), but I’m afraid not to loving it but that’s another issue inside my global hesitation between both cars.
You are so lucky of living in Canada 🇨🇦, for some reason the Civic Si Canadian version bring many of the amenities of the Sport Touring tha were taken out of the US version : 10,2” digital instrument cluster, fog lights, proximity sensors, dual climate, heated seats and Honda link were taken out of the US version unfortunately 😕.
I’m glad you are waiting for yours 👍🏼, thank you again for your time and response, I enjoy watching TFL channels 🙂
@@DANIELHERNANDEZ-cp2ym I would highly recommend you watch SavageGeese’s review on this car. They break it down the best imho.
Enjoy what ever iteration you go with! I’m super stoked for my Si! C’est la vie my friend!
Elantra N line has a manual with 201 hp 195 torque for 24k...includes sunroof, wireless charging and apple carplay wireless, also a real hand brake...just no LSD.
You forgot the elantra is hideous. I was excited about the elantra n not the n line but its a ugly car. Has a face only a mother could love.
@@ascanius_son_of_aeneas5344 Says you, but the Elantra is selling very well. Looks are subjective...plus Civic and good looks seldom go together..look at the last gen Civic. Ugly as sin.
My dream car
Would love to see Honda bring back the CRX both the HF and the SI.
How was the room and seats for a bigger guy?
I foolish test drove a BRZ.....My legs hit the steering wheel. Going to test drive a Honda manual today, they look small though.
@@TheJiggs666 Its great, i picked up SI yesterday. I love it. The seats are huggy but hold very firm and comfortable.
@@rknight9561 Congrats man I hear good things.
I don't know... I like the interior of 11th generation civic, I only wish the Type-R was AWD
I would buy a new Civic Si when I don't need to drive my truck. But I'd buy my wife a new Accord first. Thanks for the review.
I want a white SI now. Amazing job Honda
Hey nathan, I have a 2015 Mazda 6 manual transmission car. I like the looks of the one that you just drove the new Honda Civic si. But you didn't tell us whether it had safety features like automatic cruise control blind spot monitoring Lane keeping assist and so forth. Can you let us know about that please.
No wonder the performance sounds amazing,, but am very frustrated with the outlook ! it doesn't have that aggressive front as same as the old cut. In addition to that, from posterior, it looks as Hyundai !! Uh damn
So dissapointing. They really de-contented the car and then raised the price on top of it. A bit insulting
I thought the 10th gen was gaudy at first, but when I found out it was the last of the coupe, I snagged a white 2020. So glad I did.
Ummmm, Okaaaayyy, but I think I'd prefer the Hyundai Elantra N, as Paul showed us a few days ago. Choices choices, I guess! :)
Nathen does the best snark.
The baked in music in the background should be illegal in a video like this
A turbo on a 1.5 liter engine undermines longevity. It’s fun to drive- while it lasts.
Yup, the days of going 200,000 miles without having to do any large powertrain work are long gone thanks to emissions regs. Just the government continuing its class warfare on people who live paycheck to paycheck.
Any evidence of that? There are thousands of Honda 1.5ts way past 200k.
Here's what Honda left out, no power drivers seat, hard plastic on the upper door panels, no power or USB connection in the rear, and no engine temperature gauge in the instrument cluster. Inexcusable in a vehicle that costs $28 thousand dollars.
You don't need power drivers seats in a compact car. I guess it's nice if you have more than one driver and use the memory, but they're quite heavy.
You also forgot No Heated Seats or adjustable dampers that the 10th gen had
Unlike Netflix anime adaptations, this probably will be great
At least Yoko Kanno, the music composer, came back
Made a guitar cover video for the ending theme, The Real Folk Blues
Love the color, but I never learned to drive manual ☹️
Hey tfl will it be pricey when it has manual transmission
They only come with a manual transmission, no automatic.
SI only comes in manual transmission. Most cars are $2000 cheaper than an automatic. Since either no one likes manual transmissions, or wants to learn manual. Unless they have mark up, but that’s a different story. Depending on the dealer.
@@Alex261979 “no one likes manual”.. you’re so wrong about that buddy. Learn to shift and you’re mind will change. Real gear heads row their own.
@@doylee469 85%+ cars on the road are autos
People who don't know what the 3rd pedal is wouldn't be watching this video lol
Now give it some nuts I don't want a D series. Least give us the Accord 252 HP 2.0t it already comes in every Acura it's not special. Otherwise what's the point in calling it Si I don't want a 1.5 liter in 2022
Wish the SI came in the hatch
Nathan happy!
Why, just why did Honda decrease horsepower? Wtf?! They could’ve made this Si so much better by adding at least 15 hp and make it 220 hp but no they decreased it from 205 to 200?! Why?!
Would look much better if the ride height was lowered a couple inches
Hondata tune adds 34 hp and 50 lb ft torque for 700 bucks
Yeah he said the same thing about the dodge dart few years ago. He just likes to play with a manual trans in the gravel. LoL
Build in Canada, but doesn’t provide with same features Canada gets 😭, U.S. customers ripped off by Honda
Imagine driving this car and you paid $35k or more for it with the markups. And every other Si you see on the road from 2020 and soon to be 2023 and ongoing paid the msrp $27k. I said it before I'll say it again please don't pay these dealers people! Unless you really really need a car. Trust me there will be future Si's and quite possibly better cars in the future.
I think this new generation of civics looks much better and mature vs the previous version looked overdone and too much like a toy.
I know this is a review of the car, but the elephant in the room is that this car can and will be marked up to death. This is a great car "for the price" not many thousands more! I'm not cheap and have no problem paying for whatever a car is worth, but giving thousands extra to lying salesmen? Hard to swallow. For most people 5 thousand extra (or much more?) can buy a couple vacations, a lot of toys for kids, etc. My point is wait for the 2023 or 24.
It's not Honda's fault but all the car makers should have some power over the price, they'd sell more! Or does Honda get a cut of the total marked-up price?
I know I know we have the power by not buying... but there has to be another way.
dealerships buy cars from the manufacturers and any markups are theirs to keep - this can be seen with other vehicles like the bronco. with the pandemic, they are charging even more due to limited supply. as long as people are paying with the markups, they'll keep doing it - apparently, consumers have a lot of extra money to burn right now...
What’s that dongle in the 10th gen?
Looks like something a 56 year old would buy.
The first thing I would do to this baby if I got one is unplug that ridiculous "Active Sound Control" module, which by the way is located behind/below the glove box.
That digitally-enhanced engine noise that you hear in the cabin through the speakers may be good for people who drive automatic and want to feel like they drive stick with those paddle shifters, not for us real stick shifters.
Second thing I would do to it is, hmmm...wait, I can't afford this baby since the stealerships are gonna blame the pandemic for marking the hell out of it 😟
Stick to MSRP, friends. That's the only way this beauty will be accessible to most of us.
P.S: nobody's talking about whether the engine is port injected or direct injected. If it's the latter, anybody know if Honda addressed the oil dilution problem in the GDI engines of the previous gen?
Why is the digitally enhanced engine noise not good for people who drive real stick? I'm coming from an automatic so I'm curious
I love the new si.it looks good and a true driving experience .what can go wrong.
When I read the phrase "this isn't a numbers car" in a recent review, I was suspicious. Now, even more so - slower than its predecessor, considerably slower than cars costing not a whole lot more (GTI, for example). I've little doubt it's chassis is well sorted but I'm given no option of a proper dual-clutch set-up which would make the car quicker, still. And with a new Elantra N lurking right around the corner . . . . spend wisely on your next fun-mobile, especially if you drive in daily commuter traffic. Not convinced this is the best bang for the buck.
Like the car but sorry still need more power like 220 to 230 would be perfect 👍🏽
Hondata just dyno'd one, i believe it made almost 220 to the wheels, so people were questioning if Honda under rated it...
K Tuner flash +40hp and +70lb ft of torque $449
@@Tool0GT92 is that all you need to spend? or do you need to buy other stuff to install it?
When you add k- tuner to your SI, doesn't that negate your warranty?
@@leonwaltemate6152 Depends, you can flash it back to factory any time. The only time they would deny your warranty is they can prove the tune caused an issue and they would have to dig deep through some logs to see you ever flashed it. The L15B7 engine doesn't have a ton of issues that you wouldn't worry about any warranty claims anyway.
Im torn between a brz and the si
BRZ all day long if you don’t need the extra seats. Can’t beat the well balanced RWD chassis.
Brz easy decision.
2018 WRX
@@danh655 lmfao
@@InfoumusMOBB yup, especially if you don't need space for more than two people or to haul more stuff...
Nathan is nowhere near excited as he was with the 2020 Si Coupe review. One of the reasons I bought one.
Lol, Nathan is absolutely giddy over this Honda! Not that I blame him cause now it's a better looking car on the outside (albeit plainer on the inside) than the last generation, and Honda isn't scared of offering stick shifts and 3rd pedals to those in the know of the dance we call "Heel-N-Toe!"
This Honda is Happy and it delights me to no end that an even happier Civic is still on the way, and it STILL not a CUV! 💩!
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It dynoed @222 hp / 233torques
Wish they didn’t go with the accord look it’s boring
Still hate the exterior. It just looks boring. The last generation was a great looking car.
I feel the exact opposite
I honestly agree.
I saw a Mercedes with the same exact wheels as the SI.
Nice😎
Thanks for putting ads in your video said no one ever. I really like your content but I’ll dislike every video that you choose to do this.
This is how they pay for what they do, support them or unsubscribe.
Built in a decent county at least
Funny how every car reviewer posed a video about the Civic Si exactly at the same time.
It's called a review embargo.
The embargo probably lifted...
@@Tool0GT92 never heard of that
honda invited a lot of reviewers out to CA to be able to drive it on the windy roads near malibu; they had several si driving around at the same time too which you can see in some of the videos ha ha.
Loving my tuned 2022 Civic SI, check it out!
funny how american car manufacturers are real quick to have there products built in mexico and all over south america. Japanese companies? assembled in america.
Not true man, most toyotas are built in another country.. the only toyota still built in Japan is the 4runner.
@@doylee469 here-say, im not up with date with where all the models components are crafted and assembled but we know American brands have been at it for quite some time! i have an 07 tacoma (180k) and you wont find anything but Japanese and American names on its labels. had a 15 scat pac, different story and MAN that car was a piece of shit!
If you buy a honda u better swap out the battery for an interstate or something more reliable!!
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