Been a Harley man for 45 years, just bought my first victory. I’ve heard so much good about them, we shall see. Bought a 2012 vision with 34,000 miles. It was a wreck, hit a deer and I paid $800.00 for it. Cost me $1,500 to fix it. If I like it I’m selling my beloved Electra glide. Polaris may have abandoned the victory but Harley abandoned all who have kept them alive for the last 50 years. 😢
Buying one of these tomorrow. Some great info here, nothing to talk me out of a vision however, some things to watch out for. This is a REAL dude here with real world things to say. I like him. Great video sir and thank you for your service to our great country. Many more safe miles to you my friend
This is a great video. It's nice when real owners share their experiences with the bikes and motorcycle dealerships. Very cool and it's entertaining, too. Good job!
A great way to explain your bike experience. I'm not into cruisers but the way you talk about your motorcycle experience kept me interested for the whole 30 minutes. Congrats
Hey Dan and everyone else. Just to make you aware most dealers are independent franchises and not owned or run by Victory or Polaris. If one dealer offers you a service contract you MUST check if it's manufacturer endorsed or just a dealer service contract. If it's manufacturer endorsed it will be an official promotion and will be advertised on the official website. If it's just a dealer service contract they SHOULD make you aware of this as it will not be transferable. If you feel you have been miss sold a service contract complain to the dealer first. If you get no joy then complain to the manufacturer as this will be logged as a black mark against the dealer. This goes with most brands of bikes. Nice bike by the way!
Loved the video .. Watched it from beginning to end and thoroughly loved it.. I got a lot from the video and it was really great the way you instilled a closeness with the viewers.. The sitting and telling all to the gopro made it seem just like you were talking to me..Wonderful format.. You sir are a great storyteller.. Thanks for the post..
Dan, Thanks for the long but very informative video. I have a very similar bike; 2011 Victory Cross Country with 20,000 mi. If I bought a Vision, I to would have many more miles on my bike by now. What Vision owners take for granted is the amazing effectiveness of all that silly looking bodywork to protect them and make them comfortable. I have ridden other peoples Visions many times and believe they are the best long distance set up on the market today. Dana
Lower deflectors: depending upon the material used, buffeting by wind turbulence and heat from the engine and UV from the sun could cause a material to become brittle. In which case it can shatter. You could have a custom made pair fabricated from a different material. Lots of good info in this video. I watched some videos on the differences between Harley and Victory Engines and this video. Now I understand why some Victory owners (who were former Harley owners) that I talked to in the past loved their Victory bikes so much. Thinking about getting a Victory now that Polaris isn't going to make them anymore, and stocking up on some critical parts.
I’m 7 years late to comment , but a very good review !! And a funny thing that we have in common is this : ”Life is a journey , not a destination”. When I started up my 2 Instagram accounts in 2012 , I have this on my description !
Dan,, I thoroughly enjoyed your video. I wish more people would do what you just did, letting others know the different things that come up and need addressed, giving us things to think about. Thanks. It would make nice viewing to see some video from some of your trips. I admire your love of riding. Keep up the good spirit.
I respect your opinion on the matter as I am guessing you owned one or both. I rode a wing for 10 years and thought it was the best bike in the world. Then I bought a couple of Harleys' to try to figure out what was so good there. Then I bought my Victory and I haven't stopped loving it from day one. I'll probably buy the BMW next. Not being able to figure out what bike is the best is a good problem to have. Ride safe.
Why would you buy an over priced BMW. In today's market you may want to go out and test drive a vehicle in the same class by every other dealer. That over priced BMW is not what it use to be.
Lot t think about.... I bought my 1999 Victory in 1999. In the so cal area. (I still have the bike) I have put over 100,000 miles on it. Put batteries, oil and light bulbs on it. I can still go out and it will start up and wake the dead (I do have aftermarket pipes) I will sell it in and get me a Hammer next. And I am in my lower 60's.... Have had Hondas, Harleys, V rod, Kawasaki and Ducati's. The Ducati is the only other bike I really fell in love with. But where I live, it would be impossible to get any service.
Great review Dan. I was just looking at the victory bikes online and viewing a few videos about them. Ran across your video here and definitely enjoyed all 30 minutes of it. I thought... "Finally an honest bike review done by an owner instead of some magazine or sales guy." I purchased my first harley in 2013 (2008 road king classic). Gives me and my wife time to get out a few hours a week. Rode from Omaha to norther MN last summer by myself and actually fared well on this bike. No butt aches or back issues. Since my purchase of this bike I learned more about Harley's marketing scheme and also how difficult it is to do "simple maintenance" on it. I'm a decent wrench on a bike but getting tired of the harley bs. For example, when we purchased this harley, we changed out the stock seat to a more comfortable one plus got the back rests. I learned that the back rest pads were sold separately from the frame it mounts to. Well anyway, your video of your victory bike gave me more insight of the issues you deal with since you purchased it. I have learned that the motor is much an improvement over the harley, but the body style on the victory bikes are not as appealing. Again, thank Dan for your review. When the spring season approaches, I'll do a test ride on one of these victory bikes.
Very interesting video. I wish every motorcycle had a fair, unbiased user review after 4 years and 80,000 miles about what they like and don't like. I hope you are still enjoying your motorcycle and getting in lots of trouble-free miles! Keep the rubber side down!
Very nice video! Good tips and a VERY good video. Watched the whole thing and I don't even own a Victory motorcycle. I ride a goldwing GL1800, but I enjoyed your clear, concise commentary and learned a few things at the same time. Thank you for presenting this video, Dan.
Great video Dan! I currently ride a Victory Cross Country. Best bike purchase I've ever made. I previously owned a 2006 Goldwing. Loved that bike too, but you can't beat a Victory. I also owned 3 Harleys before the GW. You are right, the joy is in the journey, not the destination. That's what riding is all about. Keep it up!
Hey Dan, great video, I really enjoyed every moment of it and was surprised how fast the 30 odd minutes went. Good on you for not being negative about any of your experiences and your words of wisdom at the end are well chosen and considered. Nice work.
Love the GIANT flashlight! I actually have the same one. It was a birthday gift... I also own a 2008 Victory Vision Tour Premium in Midnight Cherry. Bought it new in 2007. Still have it and ride it often.
Hey Donald Price and anyone else who caught it, Yes, you caught me. LOL The video was shot in the middle of January, 2015. Me bad, I misspoke. Also while describing driving from Phoenix to the NORTH rim of the Grand Canyon, I mistakenly said you turn "East" when it should have been "West." Finally, while talking about what a pain in the butt it is to completely fill up the gas tank, I again misspoke when I said miles per "hour" when it should have been mile per "gallon." Oh, well. I'm learning. Nonetheless, I hope the video was helpful and informative.
Great comments and tips. I own a 2016 Cross Country Tour, but I'm thinking that most of your comments apply to my bike as well. Thanks for the video. I'm subscribing.
Great review and feedback. You brought up some good points regarding dealership sponsored service contracts - same as in the auto sales industry. I'm glad to hear the Victory Vision has held up well. I'm very interested in purchasing a 2016 Victory Vision as my wife wants to begin touring. Keep up the posts and the great rides!
+CLOWhite Hey CLO White. Go for it! Although my wife isn't into the long trips like I am, from Phoenix, AZ we've toured to the Grand Canyon, Ruidoso Down NM, Orange County CA, and all around the Arizona deserts (during winter) and mountains (Yes, there are mountains in Arizona.) together. Riding "two up" the bike was very comfortable and stable even n stop'n'go traffic.
Your destination is your journey...that's the analogy for life....it's not always fun, sometimes it sucks, most times it's fun but once you're at destination it's over. So enjoy the journey everyone! :)
Great info. This video renewed my interest in the Vision, which I've been thinking is a better tourer than a SG. I payed special attention to the engine not fully breaking in until about 30k. Sound like what I should be riding. Keep us updated on your milage. Thanks.
Awesome review thanks for such a great description of the Vision looking at one myself and to save some cash 2011 look good nice to hear how reliable they are.
Hi Dan F, I'm sure that if you still have the brackets for the lower wind deflectors you could probably construct a pair out of polypropylene, because once you have the shape cut out it's easy to work with and to produce a smooth edge using a wood plane and some wet and dry emery paper. you probably get a color similar to your motorcycle. It's almost indestructible and would save you a bunch of money.
I own a 2013 Victory Vision, I had mine lowered 1.5", you should be aware that if you lower the bike it may bottom out in the rear and crack the bottom of your saddle bags, I really love the bike, just a small learning curve.
The 30,000 mile break in period just tells me that engine is very well made. Harley's are starting to wear out at 30,000 miles. The things you complaining about seem very minor at best. Great Bike...
Singinfeller Hey Singinfeller, You are absolutely correct. Everything I talk about are minor irritants. Overall it is a great bike!! No complaints or "buyer remorse!" I just wish I had known what questions to ask when I was negotiating with the dealer, and thought I'd pass on to others what I'd learned. Thanks for the comment.
Nice vid Dan. Thanks for posting. I recently started long distance riding. Bought a Kaw. Conny in Omaha, drove to Austin Tx, then back to RI. 18 states and 3000 miles. Stopped at the Barber Museum in Al. Amazing! Put that on your to do list. Nice to get tips from other experienced riders. I hope to make it to the Leesburg bikefest the end of April. Take care and be safe.
Oh, yes. I also misspoke when I talked about riding to the north rim of the Grand Canyon on the Kaibab "Peninsula." I should have said Kaibab "Plateau."
Thank you, very informative video and I am impressed by the miles you are able to rack up each year, no question you are one serious rider. While I don't ride a Victory I have checked them over but for now I ride a Suzuki Boulevard C50T so I'm still in the Cruiser stage, one of these days I'll buy a full fledged touring bike but for now I'm still pretty happy with shorter hops of a few hours or less. It has to be interesting seeing the variety of people, places and things around the country and doing it while in the saddle gives a unique point of view. Cruising, to me, is loads of fun as long as I take my time without being rushed. I agree with allowing people to pass you by and sometimes I wonder if my speedometer is reading correctly or if it's off by10 mph . At 65 mph people fly by me like tomorrow isn't coming. I stopped letting traffic push me a while ago, let them get a ticket or be in hurry, I'm happy with lower speeds and enjoying the scenes as they come up. Thanks again, I'm going to check out the other videos you have. Take care - enjoy.
Great video. That problem with the lower air deflectors is common with Vision owners. I am thinking about replacing mine with some custom ones online made of aluminum. Looking at how good your upper black deflector looks against your red bike (same as mine), I'm thinking about going black for the deflectors.
thanks dan,been looking into visions just found low mile used one at great price.the reason seems looking at photos is someone put hundreds of kids stickers all over painted areas like gas tank,saddle bags,fairing ect i mean hundreds!! thanks to his kids maybe but i could save about $7000 just gonna have to learn to paint!! would like to sit in a chair next to you and drink few beers bet you have great stories about the road.thank for video dan and merry xmas
I'm guessing it was the dealership on Bell rd which I've noticed has closed. The few times I visited there I always got the sense it wouldn't last long . I like Victory and Indian motorcycles and if I'm able to get another cycle it will probably one of these brands instead of a Harley which I owned previously .
Nice review - thank you. I own a 2014 Vision. I am curious who makes your lower lights? Also I know there are other manufacturers out there that make the air deflectors out of metal - also some folks screw in the air deflector attachments instead of rely on glue. I also have the Garmin 660 GPS installed which I like and also have the back rest. Thanks for the tips on the seals and "ride on" for the tires. I have not had major issues with filling up my tank although I do have to slow down to actually fill up the tank. Also so far my cruise control works just fine. Again thanks for the info. Great news on the gas mileage - my bike is still under 10K
Ed Kelenyi Hey Ed, Thanks for your feedback. I am hoping others can learn from my mistakes. My fork running lights are: PIAA 73112 Platinum 1100X. I highly recommend them. A kit cost about 200 bucks on Amazon or ebay. Happy to hear your cruise control doesn't give you fits like mine does. Ride safe!
Hey Dan, thanks for the video! We are both different kind of riders (you more long range, me more for personal everyday and the occasional haul) and was wondering what you would think about getting this for my needs. I'm 24, in case you were wondering. I am thinking this bike or a Yamaha Stratoliner Deluxe. I'm looking for something for music, something I can stretch on a bit (I am 6'3") for my legs and my arms, and then looking for something super comfortable for my girlfriend. I am currently riding a 2012 Suzuki V-Strom and needed something a lot better for riding with a passenger. Any extra input you have I would appreciate greatly :)
+gomakyle7 Hey Kyle, Glad you liked the video. I hope it was helpful. I don't know much about the bikes you mentioned. When it comes to long distance touring (I average anywhere between 400 -600 miles for several days in a row), however, here's what important to me. A smooth and comfortable ride at interstate speeds (60mph, 70mph, even 80mph although I seldom go that fast) with a windshield/fairing that will keep the wind and/or weather off me, something to lean back against, and a way to stretch my legs (Like you I'm at 6'1" I'm also tall) out: the Vision running boards work for me. But aftermarket forward foot pegs are available. As much storage space as possible: saddle bags and a trunk (It is a plus if they lock). I even have a detachable bag that sits on the passenger seat and one that attaches to the rack on top of the saddle bag for light items. Finally, dependable and reliable. With the exception of the saddle bags which are a little skimpy on the storage area, my Victory Vision has provided me with all those. I hope this is useful info for ya. Remember: rubber side down and safe travels!
+Dan F. thanks for the helpful info Dan! I can probably get the other Stratoliner for a mere trade for my bike or the Vision for around an added 8k. without test riding either, I'm leaning towards the Vision because I'm looking for what you were: dependable and reliable and a comfortable ride. My Suzuki I ride now on long rides, fatigues me a lot because all the wind I get pushing on me and it cramps my arm the way it rides. I don't do as much long rides, just the seldom every so often kind, would you still recommend this bike? thanks for the help Dan!
+gomakyle7 When I was 29, I did a 9K mile ride across the lower 48 on a 1977 450lb GS750 Suzuki. No fairing. No windshield. No nothing. The bugs landed all over me and were especially bad in Florida. LOL When I win the lottery, I would buy a Yamaha Stratoliner Deluxe or something like it to zip around town on while running errands. Around town or in stop'n'go traffic the Vision can be bulky and cumbersome...especially when riding "two up." On the open highway, however, you can't beat it.I know I'm repeating myself, but it all a matter of personal taste and affordability.Side note: I read an article about a lady who rode her 250cc Vespa up the Alaska Highway to Anchorage, AK. Now that's something to brag about! "Rubber side down"
+Dan F. Thanks again Dan! It's not an easy decision whatsoever. could be my last new bike for a long time. I'm also looking at other Victory bikes too now along with a Fairing cause I love their sound and American bike. A lot to think about! That is pretty impressive, on a 250cc Vespa!
Thanks for your review, I'm looking for a vision in 2020. Looking to buy a 2012 vision just fell in love with them. Is there anything I need to know about the Victory vison for a used bike.
123JumpingJacks Hello 123 Jumping Jack, Thanks for watching. I hope it was helpful. Very comfortable. The fairing and windshield do an excellent job wrapping the wind and weather around you and a passenger. I'm 6'1" so I could use some foot pegs a little closer to the front tire to stretch my legs on. Because I'm middle age (60) and single day's trip is typically between 500 - 800 miles, I need a back (Either a sissy bar that mounts in the middle of the seat or my Victory Ultimate Touring bag) rest to lean on. Hope this is helpful.Oh, yes. I have a friend with a Vision who's short (Somewhere around 5'2") and had to have the seat lowered to reach the footboards.
there's many better options to lubricate those rear pads, WD-40 is just about the worst for that, try 3-in-1. WD-40 is great for breaking it loose, but it's not a lubricant. I enjoyed your video, thanks :)
Wanted to get a Victory down the road, now they're closed. This sucks!!! Still buying the Octane though one day Side note, a GoPro? You should go on little adventures an record them, kind of like BakerxDerek
So, how do you feel about Victory ending production of all it's bikes? I own a 2005 Victory Hammer Premium with Taboo Tattoo Red and Black paint. I think, I may need to sell soon. I'm getting a bit too old for a bike this size. I'm going to down-size.
Hey Rockbay,Such a great bike: comfortable, dependable, and fun. Yes, my touring class Vision is cumbersome at slower speeds while running errands around town on surface streets. But on the interstate nothing can beat it! I'm sorry that Polaris is letting them go. The word I get is they will still honor all warranties and will have parts for another 10 years.So the Indians aren't bad. Maybe when it's time, I'll get one of those...we'll see.
Hello..I am retired and am learning how to make the journey the destination myself. Question...what are your thoughts on large bikes and accident avoidance? I have hesitated to buy a large touring bike because they cannot swerve, brake, and have less lean angle compared to lighter more maneuverable bikes.
dry509 Hello dry509, Thanks for watching my video. I hope it was helpful. One thing to keep in mind is I know a retired gentlemen who, after motorcycling his entire life, traded in his Goldwing (905-910lbs, depending on options.) because it simple got too heavy and cumbersome to manage as he aged. He was in his 70s. My Victory Vision weights 900+ lbs with a full tank of gas, and I just turned 60. If you’re planning on primarily doing interstate cross country touring, then nothing beats a full size touring class bike in comfort, a smooth ride at highway speeds, and keeping the bugs and rain off you. Now, I know, you have to drive state highways and county roads with red lights, stop signs, and traffic to get to the interstate. Yes, it is true, especially at slower speeds, they are cumbersome and awkward….at first. When I first got my bike, I would find a vacant parking lot to practice left and right U-turns in the space of two parking spaces without having to put my feet down. Occasionally I joined a local Goldwing club to practice different low speed maneuvers such as tight figure eights and last second swerves around cones. There are a number of good youtube videos to give you an idea of what’s possible on a heavy street bike. Search under: motorcycle practice drills. Then again, if you just can’t see yourself on a hugh 900+ motorcycle riding surface streets, there are many great mid-size bikes. You just, however, can’t beat a full size touring class bike when it is time to ride 600, 700, 800 miles a day on the interstate for five or six straight days. I hope this is helpful. Safe travels, and always remember the journey is the destination.
Thanks for the feedback. It is very helpful. I guess I will stick to a full size touring class bike as I do want the advantages you listed so I can relax and enjoy the journey.
dry509 I purchased a smaller bike 5 years ago when I started riding again for some of the same reasons you mentioned. I was unsure of my abilities to handle city traffic on a touring bike. I found that to be a mistake and recently upgraded to a full on touring bike (HD Ultra Limited). While a large bike cannot carve the twisties like a smaller sport bike I find that the larger frontal presence of a large bike to help be seen. Saying that, most retires I hang around with are not out to carve corners. I find that once you get comfortable with the friction zone of the clutch and understand through parking lot practice how you bike handles at slower speeds, there is really little difference. One of the huge benefits of a larger bike is that most come with or have the option of ABS. This allows you the ability to push your panic/emergency stops past a seat of the pants effort. My HD and I know a few others also link the brakes at a certain speed meaning that you get the benefit of both brakes in a street or highway speed panic stop, regardless of how much you are actually applying on either brake. It's really getting past the fact that you are keeping 900-1000 pounds balanced at a light or stop sign - and really with time, you really do not notice the weight. So I echo if you are looking for highway miles and 300+ mile days a touring bike is well worth the money.
Not so David. My Dyna has the Evolution Motor. It hasn't broken down once. I have a reliable bike with no mechanical issues. I also own a 1973 Sportster 883, and 1997 Sportster. Bought all 3 bikes new. The AMF years were the bad years.... AMF about ruined the Harley-Davidson name. Glad the Harley family bought the company back, and rebuilt the company. The new Evolution Motor makes all the difference. No oil leaks!
+David Sizemore Check out the new HD's.... you will see the quality and dependability of the new bikes.... I don't condemn other bikes, I have had Yamaha's too. A 1970 Yamaha 175 Trail Bike. A 1973 Yamaha RD 350 when I was in the Air Force to ride to and from base into town. (sold it when I left the base and bought the 73 Sportster when I got home)... What's important is that you ride. And ride what you like. Be safe out there on your 2 wheeler, and have a good evening. :)
+Jared Howe The new Evolution motor? They discontinued the Evolution motor in the Dyna family in 1999. If you have a new Dyna, it's got a Twin Cam... not an Evolution.
A *lot* of informative information! A few months ago, I was certain I was going to get a Victory Vision. I've debated between Harley's, Victory's, & Indian's. They each have their pro's & con's. Well, the verdict is in and I've decided on a Honda Goldwing 1800. Still, watching your video educates viewers on what to "look out for" when purchasing a bike, a warranty, etc. Thanks for the video!
I can listen to this guy all day..
He sounds like that family member you love to talk and listen to
Currently looking at a used 2012 vision, this has been the most helpful video I've found so far.
Been a Harley man for 45 years, just bought my first victory. I’ve heard so much good about them, we shall see. Bought a 2012 vision with 34,000 miles. It was a wreck, hit a deer and I paid $800.00 for it. Cost me $1,500 to fix it. If I like it I’m selling my beloved Electra glide. Polaris may have abandoned the victory but Harley abandoned all who have kept them alive for the last 50 years. 😢
Buying one of these tomorrow. Some great info here, nothing to talk me out of a vision however, some things to watch out for. This is a REAL dude here with real world things to say. I like him. Great video sir and thank you for your service to our great country. Many more safe miles to you my friend
Ive been sitting her watching this video trying to figure why I like listening to him and I figured it out... He's like the motorcyclist Mr. Rogers 👍🏾
This is a great video. It's nice when real owners share their experiences with the bikes and motorcycle dealerships. Very cool and it's entertaining, too. Good job!
A great way to explain your bike experience. I'm not into cruisers but the way you talk about your motorcycle experience kept me interested for the whole 30 minutes. Congrats
Hey Dan and everyone else. Just to make you aware most dealers are independent franchises and not owned or run by Victory or Polaris. If one dealer offers you a service contract you MUST check if it's manufacturer endorsed or just a dealer service contract. If it's manufacturer endorsed it will be an official promotion and will be advertised on the official website. If it's just a dealer service contract they SHOULD make you aware of this as it will not be transferable.
If you feel you have been miss sold a service contract complain to the dealer first. If you get no joy then complain to the manufacturer as this will be logged as a black mark against the dealer. This goes with most brands of bikes.
Nice bike by the way!
Loved the video .. Watched it from beginning to end and thoroughly loved it.. I got a lot from the video and it was really great the way you instilled a closeness with the viewers.. The sitting and telling all to the gopro made it seem just like you were talking to me..Wonderful format.. You sir are a great storyteller.. Thanks for the post..
Dan,
Thanks for the long but very informative video.
I have a very similar bike; 2011 Victory Cross Country with 20,000 mi.
If I bought a Vision, I to would have many more miles on my bike by now.
What Vision owners take for granted is the amazing effectiveness of all that silly looking bodywork to protect them and make them comfortable.
I have ridden other peoples Visions many times and believe they are the best long distance set up on the market today.
Dana
Lower deflectors: depending upon the material used, buffeting by wind turbulence and heat from the engine and UV from the sun could cause a material to become brittle. In which case it can shatter. You could have a custom made pair fabricated from a different material.
Lots of good info in this video. I watched some videos on the differences between Harley and Victory Engines and this video. Now I understand why some Victory owners (who were former Harley owners) that I talked to in the past loved their Victory bikes so much.
Thinking about getting a Victory now that Polaris isn't going to make them anymore, and stocking up on some critical parts.
I’m 7 years late to comment , but a very good review !!
And a funny thing that we have in common is this : ”Life is a journey , not a destination”.
When I started up my 2 Instagram accounts in 2012 , I have this on my description !
Dan,, I thoroughly enjoyed your video. I wish more people would do what you just did, letting others know the different things that come up and need addressed, giving us things to think about. Thanks. It would make nice viewing to see some video from some of your trips. I admire your love of riding. Keep up the good spirit.
That was one of the best reviews I have ever seen. Much more informative and relevant than that produced by some of the so called experts.
I respect your opinion on the matter as I am guessing you owned one or both.
I rode a wing for 10 years and thought it was the best bike in the world.
Then I bought a couple of Harleys' to try to figure out what was so good there.
Then I bought my Victory and I haven't stopped loving it from day one.
I'll probably buy the BMW next. Not being able to figure out what bike is the best is a good problem to have. Ride safe.
Why would you buy an over priced BMW. In today's market you may want to go out and test drive a vehicle in the same class by every other dealer. That over priced BMW is not what it use to be.
Lot t think about.... I bought my 1999 Victory in 1999. In the so cal area. (I still have the bike) I have put over 100,000 miles on it. Put batteries, oil and light bulbs on it.
I can still go out and it will start up and wake the dead (I do have aftermarket pipes)
I will sell it in and get me a Hammer next.
And I am in my lower 60's....
Have had Hondas, Harleys, V rod, Kawasaki and Ducati's. The Ducati is the only other bike I really fell in love with. But where I live, it would be impossible to get any service.
Great review Dan. I was just looking at the victory bikes online and viewing a few videos about them. Ran across your video here and definitely enjoyed all 30 minutes of it. I thought... "Finally an honest bike review done by an owner instead of some magazine or sales guy." I purchased my first harley in 2013 (2008 road king classic). Gives me and my wife time to get out a few hours a week. Rode from Omaha to norther MN last summer by myself and actually fared well on this bike. No butt aches or back issues. Since my purchase of this bike I learned more about Harley's marketing scheme and also how difficult it is to do "simple maintenance" on it. I'm a decent wrench on a bike but getting tired of the harley bs. For example, when we purchased this harley, we changed out the stock seat to a more comfortable one plus got the back rests. I learned that the back rest pads were sold separately from the frame it mounts to. Well anyway, your video of your victory bike gave me more insight of the issues you deal with since you purchased it. I have learned that the motor is much an improvement over the harley, but the body style on the victory bikes are not as appealing. Again, thank Dan for your review. When the spring season approaches, I'll do a test ride on one of these victory bikes.
Very interesting video. I wish every motorcycle had a fair, unbiased user review after 4 years and 80,000 miles about what they like and don't like. I hope you are still enjoying your motorcycle and getting in lots of trouble-free miles! Keep the rubber side down!
Very nice video! Good tips and a VERY good video. Watched the whole thing and I don't even own a Victory motorcycle. I ride a goldwing GL1800, but I enjoyed your clear, concise commentary and learned a few things at the same time. Thank you for presenting this video, Dan.
I believe Dan f. expresses excellent and important points that all serious long distance operators should listen to and consider.
Great video Dan! I currently ride a Victory Cross Country. Best bike purchase I've ever made. I previously owned a 2006 Goldwing. Loved that bike too, but you can't beat a Victory. I also owned 3 Harleys before the GW. You are right, the joy is in the journey, not the destination. That's what riding is all about. Keep it up!
This guy is awesome . True riders are always super cool.
Hey Dan, great video, I really enjoyed every moment of it and was surprised how fast the 30 odd minutes went. Good on you for not being negative about any of your experiences and your words of wisdom at the end are well chosen and considered. Nice work.
Love the GIANT flashlight! I actually have the same one. It was a birthday gift...
I also own a 2008 Victory Vision Tour Premium in Midnight Cherry. Bought it new in 2007.
Still have it and ride it often.
Hey Donald Price and anyone else who caught it,
Yes, you caught me. LOL The video was shot in the middle of January, 2015. Me bad, I misspoke. Also while describing driving from Phoenix to the NORTH rim of the Grand Canyon, I mistakenly said you turn "East" when it should have been "West." Finally, while talking about what a pain in the butt it is to completely fill up the gas tank, I again misspoke when I said miles per "hour" when it should have been mile per "gallon." Oh, well. I'm learning.
Nonetheless, I hope the video was helpful and informative.
Great comments and tips. I own a 2016 Cross Country Tour, but I'm thinking that most of your comments apply to my bike as well. Thanks for the video. I'm subscribing.
Great review and feedback. You brought up some good points regarding dealership sponsored service contracts - same as in the auto sales industry. I'm glad to hear the Victory Vision has held up well. I'm very interested in purchasing a 2016 Victory Vision as my wife wants to begin touring. Keep up the posts and the great rides!
+CLOWhite Hey CLO White. Go for it! Although my wife isn't into the long trips like I am, from Phoenix, AZ we've toured to the Grand Canyon, Ruidoso Down NM, Orange County CA, and all around the Arizona deserts (during winter) and mountains (Yes, there are mountains in Arizona.) together. Riding "two up" the bike was very comfortable and stable even n stop'n'go traffic.
Great personal perspective. I love this old guy. can I come along next time.
Wonderful testimony ! I loved it from A to Z. Congrats and cheers from Belgium. Have fun and safe rides !
Your destination is your journey...that's the analogy for life....it's not always fun, sometimes it sucks, most times it's fun but once you're at destination it's over. So enjoy the journey everyone!
:)
Hey Dan I’m thinking about selling my softail and getting a Vic Vision. Thanks for the input sir
What a great video. I is so nice to see such a straight forward honest review.
Great info. This video renewed my interest in the Vision, which I've been thinking is a better tourer than a SG. I payed special attention to the engine not fully breaking in until about 30k. Sound like what I should be riding. Keep us updated on your milage. Thanks.
Great Info. Thank You for all these insights.
Awesome video , love to see some of those travel videos...
Thank you for your effort. Extended warranties (Home, Auto, Bike) are always a scam.
The scoring on the pistons can be repaired with jb weld and sand with emery cloth. Done that lots of times on expensive hydraulic cylinder pistons.
Awesome review thanks for such a great description of the Vision looking at one myself and to save some cash 2011 look good nice to hear how reliable they are.
I like how the plastic front fender cracks at the mounting point.
Hi Dan F, I'm sure that if you still have the brackets for the lower wind deflectors you could probably construct a pair out of polypropylene, because once you have the shape cut out it's easy to work with and to produce a smooth edge using a wood plane and some wet and dry emery paper. you probably get a color similar to your motorcycle. It's almost indestructible and would save you a bunch of money.
Dan
Nice video, man. Honest and detailed long term review of Victory Vision. Keep it up!
Great Video - really enjoyed hearing about your adventures, thanks for taking the time to make it; and a great philosophy too. Jon (UK)
Very good video. It helped us to be aware of dealership volatility.
I own a 2013 Victory Vision, I had mine lowered 1.5", you should be aware that if you lower the bike it may bottom out in the rear and crack the bottom of your saddle bags, I really love the bike, just a small learning curve.
hearing your story I had to pick up and go through my Floyd clymers a treasury of motorcycles of the world from '65. ride safe.
The 30,000 mile break in period just tells me that engine is very well made. Harley's are starting to wear out at 30,000 miles. The things you complaining about seem very minor at best. Great Bike...
Singinfeller Hey Singinfeller, You are absolutely correct. Everything I talk about are minor irritants. Overall it is a great bike!! No complaints or "buyer remorse!" I just wish I had known what questions to ask when I was negotiating with the dealer, and thought I'd pass on to others what I'd learned. Thanks for the comment.
Thanks for the tip about the North rim of the Grand Canyon.
Nice vid Dan. Thanks for posting. I recently started long distance riding. Bought a Kaw. Conny in Omaha, drove to Austin Tx, then back to RI. 18 states and 3000 miles. Stopped at the Barber Museum in Al. Amazing! Put that on your to do list.
Nice to get tips from other experienced riders. I hope to make it to the Leesburg bikefest the end of April.
Take care and be safe.
Oh, yes. I also misspoke when I talked about riding to the north rim of the Grand Canyon on the Kaibab "Peninsula." I should have said Kaibab "Plateau."
Great video Dan. Thanks for the long term review.
Thank you, very informative video and I am impressed by the miles you are able to rack up each year, no question you are one serious rider. While I don't ride a Victory I have checked them over but for now I ride a Suzuki Boulevard C50T so I'm still in the Cruiser stage, one of these days I'll buy a full fledged touring bike but for now I'm still pretty happy with shorter hops of a few hours or less. It has to be interesting seeing the variety of people, places and things around the country and doing it while in the saddle gives a unique point of view. Cruising, to me, is loads of fun as long as I take my time without being rushed. I agree with allowing people to pass you by and sometimes I wonder if my speedometer is reading correctly or if it's off by10 mph . At 65 mph people fly by me like tomorrow isn't coming. I stopped letting traffic push me a while ago, let them get a ticket or be in hurry, I'm happy with lower speeds and enjoying the scenes as they come up. Thanks again, I'm going to check out the other videos you have. Take care - enjoy.
My 2015 Gold Wing does the same thing on the cruise control and I have to keep on the throttle till it catches up
Dan,
Thank you for the info, good video on the bike, going to look into getting one or test driving one.
Awesome review, im looking into a vision. Im also an AZ motorcycle rider.
Great video. That problem with the lower air deflectors is common with Vision owners. I am thinking about replacing mine with some custom ones online made of aluminum. Looking at how good your upper black deflector looks against your red bike (same as mine), I'm thinking about going black for the deflectors.
This is great, I've been looking at Victory and this is great information from a real rider. Hat's off to your mileage and ride safe B-)
I enjoyed your video. Nice works. Thanks Dan. From Houston, Texas.
Thanks for the info.Have a Healthy Happy New Year!
Thank you for this wonderful, honest review.
Thank you for your Service Sir. Love your Bike
Loved your video. Thanks for posting it. Keep on ridin
lol. Some info is so wrong it’s funny. And some is right
30k miles for a engine to break in lol. That one made me chuckle
Nicely done, Sir.
thanks dan,been looking into visions just found low mile used one at great price.the reason seems looking at photos is someone put hundreds of kids stickers all over painted areas like gas tank,saddle bags,fairing ect i mean hundreds!! thanks to his kids maybe but i could save about $7000 just gonna have to learn to paint!! would like to sit in a chair next to you and drink few beers bet you have great stories about the road.thank for video dan and merry xmas
You did great, just keep being yourself.
I'm guessing it was the dealership on Bell rd which I've noticed has closed. The few times I visited there I always got the sense it wouldn't last long . I like Victory and Indian motorcycles and if I'm able to get another cycle it will probably one of these brands instead of a Harley which I owned previously .
Nice review - thank you. I own a 2014 Vision. I am curious who makes your lower lights? Also I know there are other manufacturers out there that make the air deflectors out of metal - also some folks screw in the air deflector attachments instead of rely on glue. I also have the Garmin 660 GPS installed which I like and also have the back rest. Thanks for the tips on the seals and "ride on" for the tires. I have not had major issues with filling up my tank although I do have to slow down to actually fill up the tank. Also so far my cruise control works just fine. Again thanks for the info. Great news on the gas mileage - my bike is still under 10K
Ed Kelenyi Hey Ed,
Thanks for your feedback. I am hoping others can learn from my mistakes. My fork running lights are: PIAA 73112 Platinum 1100X. I highly recommend them. A kit cost about 200 bucks on Amazon or ebay. Happy to hear your cruise control doesn't give you fits like mine does. Ride safe!
Dan F. Here is a link to a chrome wind deflector
www.cycleopsusa.com/custombillet.html#wd
Sir, u have to be a fun person to ride with! Great video!
Hey man, fellow Phoenix victory owner here, lets meet up and ride one day soon man.
Hey Dan, thanks for the video! We are both different kind of riders (you more long range, me more for personal everyday and the occasional haul) and was wondering what you would think about getting this for my needs. I'm 24, in case you were wondering.
I am thinking this bike or a Yamaha Stratoliner Deluxe. I'm looking for something for music, something I can stretch on a bit (I am 6'3") for my legs and my arms, and then looking for something super comfortable for my girlfriend.
I am currently riding a 2012 Suzuki V-Strom and needed something a lot better for riding with a passenger.
Any extra input you have I would appreciate greatly :)
+gomakyle7 Hey Kyle, Glad you liked the video. I hope it was helpful. I don't know much about the bikes you mentioned. When it comes to long distance touring (I average anywhere between 400 -600 miles for several days in a row), however, here's what important to me. A smooth and comfortable ride at interstate speeds (60mph, 70mph, even 80mph although I seldom go that fast) with a windshield/fairing that will keep the wind and/or weather off me, something to lean back against, and a way to stretch my legs (Like you I'm at 6'1" I'm also tall) out: the Vision running boards work for me. But aftermarket forward foot pegs are available. As much storage space as possible: saddle bags and a trunk (It is a plus if they lock). I even have a detachable bag that sits on the passenger seat and one that attaches to the rack on top of the saddle bag for light items. Finally, dependable and reliable. With the exception of the saddle bags which are a little skimpy on the storage area, my Victory Vision has provided me with all those. I hope this is useful info for ya. Remember: rubber side down and safe travels!
+Dan F. thanks for the helpful info Dan! I can probably get the other Stratoliner for a mere trade for my bike or the Vision for around an added 8k. without test riding either, I'm leaning towards the Vision because I'm looking for what you were: dependable and reliable and a comfortable ride. My Suzuki I ride now on long rides, fatigues me a lot because all the wind I get pushing on me and it cramps my arm the way it rides.
I don't do as much long rides, just the seldom every so often kind, would you still recommend this bike?
thanks for the help Dan!
+gomakyle7 When I was 29, I did a 9K mile ride across the lower 48 on a 1977 450lb GS750 Suzuki. No fairing. No windshield. No nothing. The bugs landed all over me and were especially bad in Florida. LOL When I win the lottery, I would buy a Yamaha Stratoliner Deluxe or something like it to zip around town on while running errands. Around town or in stop'n'go traffic the Vision can be bulky and cumbersome...especially when riding "two up." On the open highway, however, you can't beat it.I know I'm repeating myself, but it all a matter of personal taste and affordability.Side note: I read an article about a lady who rode her 250cc Vespa up the Alaska Highway to Anchorage, AK. Now that's something to brag about! "Rubber side down"
+Dan F. Thanks again Dan! It's not an easy decision whatsoever. could be my last new bike for a long time. I'm also looking at other Victory bikes too now along with a Fairing cause I love their sound and American bike. A lot to think about! That is pretty impressive, on a 250cc Vespa!
Thank you very much for the video, I enjoyed watching it very much sir.
Great video man... thanks for your review...
This is just a great vid for positivity .....and great experiences....makes me want a vision ....looking at a cross country....
Wow, you've done some serious riding. I've got 55k on mine but my Vision is older than yours.
nice review, happy riding
Thanks for your review, I'm looking for a vision in 2020. Looking to buy a 2012 vision just fell in love with them. Is there anything I need to know about the Victory vison for a used bike.
This video was very helpful.
This gentleman's voice sounds just like Liberace!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes it does and I am old enough to have seen Liberace, my God he was phenominal.
Very nice review. Thanks.
Hello Dan, how did you find the 106 engine long term overall?
Graet video! Do you still ahve the Vision?
Can you tell me the overall comfort level of the bike with stock bars footboards and seat.
123JumpingJacks Hello 123 Jumping Jack, Thanks for watching. I hope it was helpful. Very comfortable. The fairing and windshield do an excellent job wrapping the wind and weather around you and a passenger. I'm 6'1" so I could use some foot pegs a little closer to the front tire to stretch my legs on. Because I'm middle age (60) and single day's trip is typically between 500 - 800 miles, I need a back (Either a sissy bar that mounts in the middle of the seat or my Victory Ultimate Touring bag) rest to lean on. Hope this is helpful.Oh, yes. I have a friend with a Vision who's short (Somewhere around 5'2") and had to have the seat lowered to reach the footboards.
there's many better options to lubricate those rear pads, WD-40 is just about the worst for that, try 3-in-1. WD-40 is great for breaking it loose, but it's not a lubricant. I enjoyed your video, thanks :)
Wanted to get a Victory down the road, now they're closed. This sucks!!! Still buying the Octane though one day
Side note, a GoPro? You should go on little adventures an record them, kind of like BakerxDerek
So, how do you feel about Victory ending production of all it's bikes? I own a 2005 Victory Hammer Premium with Taboo Tattoo Red and Black paint. I think, I may need to sell soon. I'm getting a bit too old for a bike this size. I'm going to down-size.
Hey Rockbay,Such a great bike: comfortable, dependable, and fun. Yes, my touring class Vision is cumbersome at slower speeds while running errands around town on surface streets. But on the interstate nothing can beat it! I'm sorry that Polaris is letting them go. The word I get is they will still honor all warranties and will have parts for another 10 years.So the Indians aren't bad. Maybe when it's time, I'll get one of those...we'll see.
Hello..I am retired and am learning how to make the journey the destination myself. Question...what are your thoughts on large bikes and accident avoidance? I have hesitated to buy a large touring bike because they cannot swerve, brake, and have less lean angle compared to lighter more maneuverable bikes.
dry509 Hello dry509,
Thanks for watching my video. I hope it was helpful.
One thing to keep in mind is I know a retired gentlemen who, after motorcycling his entire life, traded in his
Goldwing (905-910lbs, depending on options.) because it simple got too heavy
and cumbersome to manage as he aged. He
was in his 70s. My Victory Vision
weights 900+ lbs with a full tank of gas, and I just turned 60.
If you’re planning on primarily
doing interstate cross country touring, then nothing beats a full size touring
class bike in comfort, a smooth ride at highway speeds, and keeping the bugs
and rain off you. Now, I know, you have
to drive state highways and county roads with red lights, stop signs, and
traffic to get to the interstate. Yes,
it is true, especially at slower speeds, they are cumbersome and awkward….at
first. When I first got my bike, I would
find a vacant parking lot to practice left and right U-turns in the space of
two parking spaces without having to put my feet down. Occasionally I joined a local Goldwing club
to practice different low speed maneuvers such as tight figure eights and last
second swerves around cones. There are a
number of good youtube videos to give you an idea of what’s possible on a heavy
street bike. Search under: motorcycle
practice drills.
Then again, if you just can’t see
yourself on a hugh 900+ motorcycle riding surface streets, there are many great
mid-size bikes. You just, however, can’t
beat a full size touring class bike when it is time to ride 600, 700, 800 miles
a day on the interstate for five or six straight days.
I hope this is helpful. Safe travels, and always remember the journey
is the destination.
Thanks for the feedback. It is very helpful. I guess I will stick to a full size touring class bike as I do want the advantages you listed so I can relax and enjoy the journey.
dry509 I purchased a smaller bike 5 years ago when I started riding again for some of the same reasons you mentioned. I was unsure of my abilities to handle city traffic on a touring bike. I found that to be a mistake and recently upgraded to a full on touring bike (HD Ultra Limited). While a large bike cannot carve the twisties like a smaller sport bike I find that the larger frontal presence of a large bike to help be seen. Saying that, most retires I hang around with are not out to carve corners. I find that once you get comfortable with the friction zone of the clutch and understand through parking lot practice how you bike handles at slower speeds, there is really little difference.
One of the huge benefits of a larger bike is that most come with or have the option of ABS. This allows you the ability to push your panic/emergency stops past a seat of the pants effort. My HD and I know a few others also link the brakes at a certain speed meaning that you get the benefit of both brakes in a street or highway speed panic stop, regardless of how much you are actually applying on either brake.
It's really getting past the fact that you are keeping 900-1000 pounds balanced at a light or stop sign - and really with time, you really do not notice the weight. So I echo if you are looking for highway miles and 300+ mile days a touring bike is well worth the money.
charles wait Thank you. Appreciate the comment. Very helpful.
What is that stuff you put in your tire again and thank you..about to buy a 2013 vision
Great video very educational.
Really good video, your a cool cat. We ride Goldwing and love it
The Service Contract I have with Harley-Davidson for my Dyna Glide Low Rider is good at ANY Harley-Davidson Dealer Nationwide.
+Jared Howe ...and necessary, given the reliability issues.
Not so David. My Dyna has the Evolution Motor. It hasn't broken down once. I have a reliable bike with no mechanical issues. I also own a 1973 Sportster 883, and 1997 Sportster. Bought all 3 bikes new. The AMF years were the bad years.... AMF about ruined the Harley-Davidson name. Glad the Harley family bought the company back, and rebuilt the company. The new Evolution Motor makes all the difference. No oil leaks!
Tongue in cheek bro.Glad you got it sorted! Ride your ride!!
+David Sizemore Check out the new HD's.... you will see the quality and dependability of the new bikes.... I don't condemn other bikes, I have had Yamaha's too. A 1970 Yamaha 175 Trail Bike. A 1973 Yamaha RD 350 when I was in the Air Force to ride to and from base into town. (sold it when I left the base and bought the 73 Sportster when I got home)... What's important is that you ride. And ride what you like. Be safe out there on your 2 wheeler, and have a good evening. :)
+Jared Howe The new Evolution motor? They discontinued the Evolution motor in the Dyna family in 1999. If you have a new Dyna, it's got a Twin Cam... not an Evolution.
A *lot* of informative information! A few months ago, I was certain I was going to get a Victory Vision. I've debated between Harley's, Victory's, & Indian's. They each have their pro's & con's. Well, the verdict is in and I've decided on a Honda Goldwing 1800. Still, watching your video educates viewers on what to "look out for" when purchasing a bike, a warranty, etc. Thanks for the video!
Enjoyed your video very much.
What is that tool you have to clean fork seals?
How much were your services each time? Harley wants 1 to 300 every 8000km. Which I think is bs.
Hello Willy,Not sure what you're asking. Are you asking what's the price for a service every 5K?
useful stuff to know.....cheers dude
you said - it is now sep. 7th 2015... something doesnt add up on that haha
Great video!!!
Good review, TY
wow. fantastic. and entertaining thank you
where in PHX do you live?