Since i see allot of people asking my build i will put the answer here. My build in the video is black knife, deaths poker, and maliketh's black blade. Stats are all 80 except vigor that is 98
So you’re at like level 400~ and still getting matched with other players? i would have assumed you’d be too over-leveled at that point for multiplayer 😲
The problem is Malenia heals herself every time she hits somebody. I have seen the host brings Malenia back to full health from 1:19 by chugging down flasks after flasks while still inside Malenia attack radius. Hence, requesting help from other players.
@@aihope8350 Playing with help is no problem but that's not helping that's letting others play, if the boss heals herself then you need to dodge, you can play safe on waterflow timings since those oneshot but not playing the rest of the fight if just ridiculous
@@Pod_TM I understand your point, but I also had "The Host of Fingers has died. Returning to your world" message right as I pass through the fog gate...several times, and I was like: What happened?😱
For every "woah, he solo'ed Malenia with increased health" there was the host standing against the wall probably emoting over and over just trying not to get in the way. This is the mentality that **** left, you guys celebrated a real ****. **** Let Me Solo Her.
"By doing absolutely nothing" feels like this guy is trying to be the luigi meme (of winning by doing nothing) of elden ring. except less entertaining, less hilarious, and he actually did somthing! breaking the whole rule of doing nothing it self.
"This game is too hard so the very first thing I did upon starting a new character was skip to mohgwyn palace and rune farm til lvl 400. Im a samurai and use bleed. I cheese all the bosses and cant solo them. Only coop. Then I think Im a god by "HeLpiNg oThErS bEaT" their bosses.
Thanks for clearing it up. There's some bosses that can 1-2 shot me so I'd rather stay back and deal some minor damage / less aggresive as not to aggro them and ruin the hard work of the player who tank or fight them head on (I was mage build so I was extremely weak) I thought the sleeping guy was at least helping him, but no, he decided to sleep.
@@GrandRiserOfficial yep, literally me on final boss of the dlc, i did almost nothing the whole fight trying not to ruin it for other 2 guys, but tried my best to help
I’ve only summoned players a few times and we usually constantly swapped aggro to get our hits off and make the boss go quicker. I usually like to do a few runs with just my spirit ashes first to see what weapons work the best for the boss, and if I keep getting stuck and just can’t progress the fight, then I’ll summon a player. Sometimes I have gotten greedy and almost thrown the fight with a summon.
@@TheAlphaLegionnaire as a true player should be, proud of you man! You and your friends dealing with the impossible together, is what jolly cooperation is all about
@@ultimatelegend8306 I gotta give you respect for not helping the guy I have had to refuse helping several people who were either severely competent to point I had to give them constant instructions To do something or they were severely under level as someone tried to get me to help with mhog at level 35
@@DIO-qo6tyIt’s true, I was let go of my job, my girlfriend broke up with me, and my parents disowned me for the immense shame I brought to them after it was found out I summoned a friend for Malenia 😢
I mean compared to the others in the series, you have so many more tools to help you win. Just because some losers sit around in co-op, something that has been happening since Demon Souls, doesn’t mean the game is more difficult. And I get it just don’t use those tools, but they still exist to be used in the game so you have to factor them into the difficulty.
@@richizzle39I respectfully disagree but also agree. It is very much easier than the others if you abuse shit like spirit summons, jumping heavy str spam, shield poke, magic & bleed. But harder if you are using shit with OK-ish or less damage. As I've never struggled as hard as I have in any other souls game & sekiro as I have with Malenia, Messmer (though less than Malenia) & the promised consort. Especially the promised consort. Shit tag teamed me both in game and irl. IRL with the flashing bright white lights which triggers my photosensitivity.
happen to me once as well but instead of leaving i did something a bit more mean kind of got the boss (melania) to kill me yes but and him in the end worth it
I help a lot but I actually don't care, cuz calling for help this act itself, suggests they bad at game most of the time anyway. I have plenty of cases when host being lazy actually equals easier for me to kill the boss. Cuz they don't know shit about aggro and stamina control anyway, at least live long enough for me to kill the boss. What I hate the most are thoese "let me solo" copycats, if you don't let them they immediately gone, yet most of them die in the middle of fight too, if I want to see impressive play I go watch a video ok, just kill the boss efficiently.
Had this with promised consort 😂 At about 40% health I was like “why is he’s still attacking only me?” And looked around to find the host by the fog gate with binoculars out… left immediately
In DS2-3 I got so tired of getting summoned for boss fights where the host would die when I was just trying to get embered or get free souls that I thought "I don't care if all you do is literally run, your job is to not die" and I was glad if they did so, I can handle the boss. In Elden Ring it's different. Literally just yesterday I was putting my sign down for the swamp mansion boss (don't wanna spoil what it is) because I was struggling against him. First boss in the DLC so far that was giving me trouble so I was practicing this way against him so I could learn his moveset faster, and I land on this host *with a greatshield tank build* who summons only me and then proceeded to stay back the whole time. Meanwhile I'm struggling and idk how he can't freaking tell, but still he does nothing and eventually I ran out of flasks and he just let me die. Then ofc I see him die to the boss while dead before the session even ended. All you could've done is just walk forward with your greatshield and wait, stay safe, draw a grand total of 30 seconds of aggro. Apparently freaking not. I don't have as much incentive to "win" in Elden Ring co-op anymore because I don't feel I get as much out of it as in DS games. Now I just do it for fun, so yeah, if I run into players like these now, I leave. These guys piggy back on us then turn around and say "Malenia was easy"
Yeah I keep getting summoned. One was for Malenia twice. Both times the host died to her Second state starter move. It was the same host too. Some people can't even fight Radragon with 2 other people.
@@christopher961 I don't understand why you'd summon players for a boss like Malenia if you haven't learned how to dodge that or her waterfowl dance yet. If you can survive both but still struggle, np, but otherwise, you're wasting everyone's time
I've gotten a lot of hosts like this, it honestly makes me conflicted: I know for certain I can kill Malenia with no sweat, so the host not fucking the fight up is nice. However, the sheer amount of people that just think they can win for free without doing anything is crazy, baffling sometimes
My bro let someone solo the dlc final boss for him and he was in the discord like “LETS FUCKING GOOOO” i was baffled. I mean i felt bad enough using the antspur fingerprint stone shield cheese but some people really have no shame lmao.
@creeperYT9824 Look I’m all for the let people play how they want but what this dude is saying the guy didn’t even play the game someone else beat it for him.
@creeperYT9824 being carried because you're just as useless in-game as you are in real life is fun for nobody. It's literally just a bragging right to say people completed task for you with the most minimal amount of effort on your part. That's the equivalent of the guy who sleeps on the job getting that promotion you worked hard for and all you got out of that whole endeavor is few crummy cents raise.
Solo radagon by myself before I noticed the host was hiding but I thought he just backed up to heal. Watched as in elden beast bro ran immediately and hid, so I went up, pointed down, and left. Bro has all his flasks im sure he did fine 🙂
Meanwhile, I was helping a newbie on Margit with my new char, and we lost just barely one time with like a sliver of hp left, but he ended up calling me again and we had an epic fight where we absolutely obliteratd Margit as I only got hit once lol
Reminds me of DS3 when some dude summoned me for Curserotted Greatwood, of all bosses. It's an easy fight for free runes, and I wanted to practice being a summon since it was my first game. He was obviously a noob too, since he sucked at spacing Phase 2 and kept getting grabbed and dying. Then we had a glitch where I couldn't even enter the arena and was stuck swinging wildly at the fog gate... Being resummoned for the fourth time and both of us immediately doing the "collapse in despair" emote at the same time was the most connected I've ever felt to a stranger I couldn't speak to. We beat the boss easy after that. Hopefully he got better at the game. I wonder if he also remembers the time he summoned Keanu Reaves to help him beat up a tree...
So is leaving like that sure they’re not doing anything but they wouldn’t be much help anyway and i bet if they did try to help and died the people helping would be max that he tried a lot of people do that and tbf the 2 summons had it sorted
Honestly fuck it, I hate it more when I invade, and another dude invades and then the other invaded helps the host and his summon fight me, like dude, red on red violence should be illegal, I'm kn your side
Appropriate. I'll never understand why sheep even bother spending almost a hundred dollars on games just to do absolutely nothing or be braindead cheesy other than to maybe feel a sliver of worth? The only time I ever sat back in a boss fight was the Kos Parasite in Bloodborne, and that's only because I was at half hp, out of vials, out of silver and the person that came to help me was trying their damned hardest after we got it to half hp. So I just did my best to survive and not sully their efforts. Thank you legendary hunter, wherever you are now.
There are some niche excuses, for example, i have a friend who only cares about PVP, like, PVE could not possibly interest him less So he has me kill all the super tough bosses for him so he can get all the remembrance items He has 0 fun engaging in PVE, and just wants to fuck around in PVP, which means i get to fight the bosses twice, and he doesnt have to deal with the bosses, which he doesnt have fun fighting, win-win for both of us
I did this not too long ago. I was helping people with the sunflower boss. And during the 2nd phase I noticed that the phantom was hacking because he took absolutely no damage from the big aoe explosion the boss does and so I just left.
I was playing with a friend of mine and were doing Melania in hos ng+2 and were summoning for fun. He uses gamertags and I use character names for multiplayer. He summoned someone and I informed him he summoned "sit and watch". So we did. I don't think he was prepared for what he was walking into though.
I know that feeling and I thank them for it. It's because of them I became a "jack of all trade" boss killer. The downside is that you really can't master the bosses 😞 I'll usually die if it's a boss I rarely get summoned for. But maliketh, radagon/elden beast, Godfrey, rykard, morgott, mohg, fire giant, malenia and even the dancing lion are so easy to beat.
I've seen this kind of behavior while invading. Some hosts will run all the way back to the grace and leave the co-op phantoms to fight me. Then when the phantoms die they just summon someone else. I always wonder why the co-op phantoms even bother when the host isn't willing to play the game.
Look, I'm someone who is happy to solo, but my name will SAY that I'm happy to solo. I mean you don't even have to attack, recently I was helping people out with the dlc's final boss and the host just kept shooting the Heal From Afar spell anytime I got hit. Even being 100% passive is viable, just be helpful
Listen, I summoned a "Let me Solo Her" player when I first fought Melenia, so I knew what kind of contract I was getting into, it was in the name, afterall. But I didn't see any contract here. I could accept hanging back and playing defensively too, you are the host afterall, and if you die, the fight ends for everyone. However, I still expect you to be a part of the fight, pulling agro when you can. Even just casting healing spells are a great help mid-fight if you can, and at least you are trying to help.
I would have left too. There are a few cases where, as a summon, I've stepped back and sat on the side lines because another summon decided to solo Malenia (and it was in their name). The only other time I'll leave hosts is for fight clubs (not interested) and a host that doesn't learn how to fight or share hate with their summons after 3 tries. Running into the boss head-on, just because you have a summoned person, and getting 2-shot multiple times is just a waste of everyone's time.
Having the host do nothing after summoning 2 people is more infuriating than having the host be aggressive with you and die. Despite having the same outcome, you can still see that the host tries on the second scenario.
I'm petty, I'd stop attacking and waste their time as much as possible. Depending on the character I'm playing, just pull up a greatshield and block forever.
There are 3 types of people that summon: 1: legitimately just needs some help with a hard boss/area. 2: someone who needs to get their head checked w/ how horrendously bad they are. They will die within 5 seconds (this is not an exaggeration, 4/10 people I help will die before I even enter the fog gate.) 3: people who let you play the game for them then go on twitter and clown everyone who says a boss is hard. For an extra: People who could easily beat the boss on their own, but are just lazy, I dont mind these people, its nice to fight w/ someone capable of playing the game.
@@nebulittle5697 you forgot the secret one. The trolls. People who summon you only to try and kill you so they can laugh at you in the messages. (Like litraly using a great shield and being like a magnet who is alive, and tries to be a living wall next to you constantly, so a boss can hit you becease they where in your doge window way.) And once you died they teabag you and throw some shit at you. The most rare player to find but they are there waiting for there target
While I don't usually summon, on occasion in the Dark Souls games if I see someone's sign next to a boss I may call them up. I know it can be hard sometimes to get summoned so I like to think I'm helping people get their humanity/embers and Sunlight Medals. In Elden Ring I don't even see other players' summon signs because there's basically no reason to use the Furlcalling Finger Remedy unless you're explicitly trying to do coop, whereas in DS2 and DS3 you got HP bonuses for being in human form/embered so you would see summon signs coincidentally as a result. DS1 there's not much reason to be in human form except to kindle bonfires, but it might still come up on occasion.
@@Greywander87 People just wanna do co-op, it's fun to be able to help people out, thats the only reason I do it. As for those who summon, it's just because some of the less hard-core players that got into elden ring don't have the mental endurance to put in 100 attempts into some random boss. I think that's the response you were looking for.
I’ve had this happen to me and he even kicked me out with the boss having 2 hits left in him I guess to make it look like he beat it themself lmfaooo 😭💀
i had a summon beat malenia for me solo, and to my absolute amazement the legend that was "MALENIA'S CROTCH" managed to spend 99% of the fight not taking damage until literally the final few seconds of her second phase, and they still got the win. i then ran up to them, did the elden ring equivalent of giving them a big wet kiss (just kind of weirdly bowing in their general direction) but at least i was _present_ for it, and all credit to that person for not only doing a solo run while i fearfully ran orbits from a distance, but i was cocking _invested_ in the whole thing for the record the only other boss i've summoned for so far (co-op summons, ashes i abuse to hell and back unabashedly) is Mohg, which i even called a Discord friend up for to try and help, but i ended up beating him solo anyway after i realised that doing co-op was just buffing his health, so... whoops. so, y'know. it kind of balances out edit: i also read further down the comments that this host apparently _summoned you back three times_, what the hell?! at least have the shame to never summon that person again if they don't flawlessly solo the boss like you wanted-
Could be just me, but anytime I put down my summon sign, I have the intention of soloing the boss for people that are stuck on whatever it may be. I always get kinda annoyed when my flow is broken because of an aggro swap from the host poking the boss randomly.
100% this is the reason there's a stigma of not Respecting what so ever players who use summons, granted there are host who cant do it aloen they need help snd will put in the effort with help, but guys like this one give all host a bad name.
This is why I've always felt that your first ever fight with a boss on a character save file, whether it's on the first playthrough or NG+10, should be barred from multiplayer until you can solo it first. I've played games where you HAVE to be able to prove that you can hold your own before you get to play with others and it's really nice knowing that the only people that I'm going to run into are people that can also hang like me.
@@KamikaziiKiddgatekeeping at its finest 😂😂😂 not saying what the guy did in the video is right by any means, but you’re literally just gatekeeping like a bitch here and here 😂😂😂😂
@@richizzle39 That's unfortunately a large part of the souls community. You use magic then you're playing wrong. Use spirit summon then you're playing wrong. Playing with randoms or a friend then you're playing wrong. It's kinda dumb they wanna struggle to feel accomplished which is fine but don't force others to think that's the correct way to play
@KamikaziiKidd I mean I kinda get where you're coming from, but if that was the case, I still would be on new game, Maliketh keeps kicking my ass second phase, but unlike that dickhead in the video, I don't rob myself from awesome boss fights
@@KamikaziiKidd absolutely not ? if people need help to beat a boss, wether it's the first time or not, as long they actively participate too then they have the right to do it. Let people enjoy the game they buy instead of trying to make it unenjoyable and frustrating at all times
I wouldn't really mind a host doing this with Malenia, I do enjoy fighting her alone But so many hosts I've helped cannot dodge her scarlet bloom at the start of her second phase, they just start running in one direction and she lands directly on them I try my best to agro Malenia enough but it seems to fail most of the time
Tbh, I am tempted to put a summon down just so I don't have to redo the entire game for a single fight. Such a great boss, hope the DLC tops her (I am yet to play it lol)
This happened to me against the deathrite bird from the dlc, but in my case the other summon guy he also left me alone facing the Boss, I lured the Boss to them and sat watching them almost die before the host kicked me out
Good buddy of mine and I were on Melania for a solid few hours. This was way back when Rivers of Blood and Moonveil was op, I was shit at the game but still gave it my all. We eventually beat her and it was amazing.
Thanks i call it "true death build" using the verry things to cause death to all. But stats aren't specific for this one. I hard capped the build and all the stats are except vigor 80. Vigor is 98
I had a host like this with elden beast and i dont mind solooing bosses to be honest but he had the disrespect to not even say thanks and the Audacity to say "i finally beat elden ring alone 🎉"
I want to beat malenia but for some reason she's the only boss that has given me that much trouble.. I wanted to try and beat her with either mimic tear or another strong spirit ash but I've had trouble... I did have trouble with maliketh too but I did end up beating him.. The only boss I've summoned another player for help is the twin gargoyles...
@@lololollololol629 my first playthrough long ago i thought it was impossible and i beat her using black knife tiche summon if i recall correctly. but recently I decided to replay the game and beat malenia without any summons and it didnt take as many tries as i thought cus i retained a lot of the muscle memory for her attacks. you really can learn how to dodge her consistently if you give it time and patience hell if you dont feel like learning to dodge waterfowl through trial and error look up how on youtube. its maybe not easy to figure out on your own but once you know how its done its simple
personally I beat her with an occult flamberge at 80 arcane cus staggering with jump attacks as well as applying a good amount of bleed is very very handy... weapons that stagger, apply bleed, or apply frostbite, or a combination of any of those will help a ton
@@lololollololol629 Id say Malenia is better off fighting solo, because then she doesnt heal off your summons Shes a parriable boss, use Carian Retaliation or Golden Parry for best parry frames, otherwise hit and run works just fine
@@Wakasan626 You can cheese malenia with The knife Thine assassin, as it keeps doding out Malenia (And throwing destined death randomly to the boss). Well you can use it to cheese all the bosses really, even in the DLC it seems. It won't solo them out completely, but it helps so much taking aggro from bosses and still staying alive for so long so that every boss is literally couple of tries and you'll kill them. You can get the ashes from doing the Ranni's questline through what allows you to get into area where the small boss resides.
I have no problem if you cheese the game with op build or weapon or magic. They are all legitimate ways to kill a boss and you shouldn't be a shame but this is shameful and maiden less behavior. I'm helping random in DLC and we are fighting this boss and when I look around the host is nowhere to be found. The only way that I know where he is that the boss accidentally tracked the host while wearing Mimic Veil at the corner of the arena.
How we go from everyone trying to do no hit runs or lvl1 runs or even speedruns in ds1 to ds3 on the regular, to the average person now literally AFK’ing in the arena. I swear whenever I do CO-OP 75% of hosts are like this now, and 25% of them get instantly one shot out the fog gate. This is in the end game bosses too such as dlc, which is crazy because they got that far without learning any of the games mechanics.
@@Luntgar i don't know what i used honestly. I think i began getting the black knife stats 1st, then trying to get the stats for maliketh's black blade, and death's poker. And then i was like why not every stat incase i wanna change things and play with something better to cause death. And well before the dlc was out everything became 80 in stats except vigor that is 98. All for the sake of being able to play with what ever the dlc could give, and being able to play with the weapons, incantations, or new magic. As strong as you can make them
I've noticed a lot of people playing like this since the DLC dropped, sitting at a comfortable distance spamming ranged and running with their tail between their legs anytime the boss gets too close for their liking. I'm not going to sever, but I'm also not going to try if the host clearly doesn't care about helping.
Helping in the DLC sucks. A lot of them never bothered collecting enough fragments so the bosses take way too long to kill and most times 2 shots them.
I used to hate hosts like that, but then I learned lot of the time the host is running away because they dont want to die and get you sent back and waste your time. As long as they're contributing SOMETHING I'd say at least see the fight to the end.
@@brandonwolford5021cant tell you how many times my coop session ended right after entering fog because host got vigor checked by the boss first move..
Literally, .. at least change ur build to range if u want someone else to aid u, not simply letting them go alone .. unless ofcoz that person is "let me solo her"
If co-op has taught me anything, its to never help those who are not deserving. If you need help with malenia, you aint gonna improve if i do all the work. This is why invasions are fun
i at least try to help by healing or using magic from afar (normal game 1 and dlc bosses hitting like trucks im lvl 181) still makes me feel crappy tho :c
@@hood3439 oh no. asking a question is not a problem, but hearing multiple times the same question being asked becomes a bit mutch. to make me repeatingly answering the same thing. And I don't blame you for not knowing this, but it's getting a bit tiring for me
I am long time jolly cooperator but Let Me Solo Her kind of ruined it. I see hosts like this all the time and i usually just kite the boss over to them as soon as i notice 😂😂😂😂
I did this with my friend, I “helped” him through most of the game without damaging the enemies, I would run to the enemies and do bad dodges and stuff without ever helping. Took until Rennalla for him to realise I hadn’t done anything 😂he’s a bit slow
If that was the case why did he tried to hit malenia also before going afk, and why didn't he heal his summons in the fight as a support. That is the least you can do if you are doing an only summons run.
The gesture was rude, but that's probably what I'd also do. Stay in the back and not draw aggro. Malenia is just a walking time bomb, and I can't do shit against her Waterfowl.
![[Elden Ring] Let me solo them](/img/n.gif)
Since i see allot of people asking my build i will put the answer here.
My build in the video is black knife, deaths poker, and maliketh's black blade.
Stats are all 80 except vigor that is 98
So you’re at like level 400~ and still getting matched with other players?
i would have assumed you’d be too over-leveled at that point for multiplayer 😲
@@leahl5007 luck is where you least except it
@@leahl5007after like 300 something you will be in the max level bracket (712)
@leahl5007 at like 300 you start getting matched with anyone between your level and level 713.
@ultimatelegend8306 hello brother, have you had the chance of meeting the first ultimatelegend yet?
"let them solo her"
The problem is Malenia heals herself every time she hits somebody. I have seen the host brings Malenia back to full health from 1:19 by chugging down flasks after flasks while still inside Malenia attack radius. Hence, requesting help from other players.
@@aihope8350 Playing with help is no problem but that's not helping that's letting others play, if the boss heals herself then you need to dodge, you can play safe on waterflow timings since those oneshot but not playing the rest of the fight if just ridiculous
@@Pod_TM I understand your point, but I also had "The Host of Fingers has died. Returning to your world" message right as I pass through the fog gate...several times, and I was like: What happened?😱
For every "woah, he solo'ed Malenia with increased health" there was the host standing against the wall probably emoting over and over just trying not to get in the way. This is the mentality that **** left, you guys celebrated a real ****. **** Let Me Solo Her.
@@Collato can you repeat that in some comprehensible language?
“I beat elden ring”
"By doing absolutely nothing" feels like this guy is trying to be the luigi meme (of winning by doing nothing) of elden ring. except less entertaining, less hilarious, and he actually did somthing! breaking the whole rule of doing nothing it self.
@@ultimatelegend8306as far as I am concerned one at least needs to hit a boss 20-50 times in coop for it to be a legit run.
I got that all the time in Halo Wars 1, carrying people in co-op.
"This game is too hard so the very first thing I did upon starting a new character was skip to mohgwyn palace and rune farm til lvl 400. Im a samurai and use bleed. I cheese all the bosses and cant solo them. Only coop. Then I think Im a god by "HeLpiNg oThErS bEaT" their bosses.
@@Slurpified its new game plus u frickhead
There's staying back and being less aggressive so you dont die, and then there's this...
Thanks for clearing it up. There's some bosses that can 1-2 shot me so I'd rather stay back and deal some minor damage / less aggresive as not to aggro them and ruin the hard work of the player who tank or fight them head on (I was mage build so I was extremely weak) I thought the sleeping guy was at least helping him, but no, he decided to sleep.
@@GrandRiserOfficial Suspect
@@GrandRiserOfficial yep, literally me on final boss of the dlc, i did almost nothing the whole fight trying not to ruin it for other 2 guys, but tried my best to help
I’ve only summoned players a few times and we usually constantly swapped aggro to get our hits off and make the boss go quicker. I usually like to do a few runs with just my spirit ashes first to see what weapons work the best for the boss, and if I keep getting stuck and just can’t progress the fight, then I’ll summon a player. Sometimes I have gotten greedy and almost thrown the fight with a summon.
I use the same weapon the guy in the video use so I mostly try to dodge because once I attack it just keep targeting me
ah yes the "elden ring is the easiest souls game" classic
It is unless you force yourself to play how you have to play in dark souls
Even then it's not that hard. The only real hard boss I could think of is Elden beast because it kept running away and maliketh.@@xeox4280
it's facts tho
I mean it is the easiest game in the series. There are people that do this sort of thing in Dark Souls too so your point really has no standing.
@@richizzle39 ds1 is arguably easier though
Bro really tucked himself in a bed, yawned, and asked you to wake him up when you're done
Hope he liked his early morning shit sandwich. Prepared specialy with sprinkles of love and care
@@ultimatelegend8306 The shit sandwich (not asked for) and Shitbucks
Funny thing is they might’ve been more understanding if he at least went with “cower in fear”
Bro had lusats staff equipped and couldn't even spam spells from a distance.
I would've equipped a greatshield and let Malenia heal back up, then leave
You know, I can’t say I soloed Elden Ring like I did DS3 and BB.
But you bet your ass I was in the trenches with my brothers 💪
@@TheAlphaLegionnaire as a true player should be, proud of you man! You and your friends dealing with the impossible together, is what jolly cooperation is all about
@@ultimatelegend8306 I gotta give you respect for not helping the guy I have had to refuse helping several people who were either severely competent to point I had to give them constant instructions To do something or they were severely under level as someone tried to get me to help with mhog at level 35
There no shame in summing other people, but when you literally do absolutely nothing it’s different
There is shame
Your too bad to beat the game yourself
If its a side boss you dont wanna do, ok fine
But a main story boss? Never
@@BoredomStudios You need to touch this thing called “grass”
@@DIO-qo6tyIt’s true, I was let go of my job, my girlfriend broke up with me, and my parents disowned me for the immense shame I brought to them after it was found out I summoned a friend for Malenia 😢
@@chrxs61632 What a sad state of affairs
@@BoredomStudios Iron Tarkus begs to differ.
"I dont get why people say this is a hard game"
I mean compared to the others in the series, you have so many more tools to help you win. Just because some losers sit around in co-op, something that has been happening since Demon Souls, doesn’t mean the game is more difficult. And I get it just don’t use those tools, but they still exist to be used in the game so you have to factor them into the difficulty.
Wom wom@@richizzle39
@@richizzle39I respectfully disagree but also agree. It is very much easier than the others if you abuse shit like spirit summons, jumping heavy str spam, shield poke, magic & bleed. But harder if you are using shit with OK-ish or less damage.
As I've never struggled as hard as I have in any other souls game & sekiro as I have with Malenia, Messmer (though less than Malenia) & the promised consort.
Especially the promised consort. Shit tag teamed me both in game and irl. IRL with the flashing bright white lights which triggers my photosensitivity.
Is not some ppl are just bad but it ain't 2 be a D**** about it like this guy and posting it like get a life 😂
I had a host that did this on the lion dancer boss so when it was close to death I just stopped helping and it killed them
Based, gigachad right here
now this is this maidenless behavior, good that you left him
"Solo her yourself"
you made the right call
It is the only call
Some dude did the same to me once. One of the few cases I used finger severer
happen to me once as well but instead of leaving i did something a bit more mean kind of got the boss (melania) to kill me yes but and him in the end worth it
I help a lot but I actually don't care, cuz calling for help this act itself, suggests they bad at game most of the time anyway.
I have plenty of cases when host being lazy actually equals easier for me to kill the boss.
Cuz they don't know shit about aggro and stamina control anyway, at least live long enough for me to kill the boss.
What I hate the most are thoese "let me solo" copycats, if you don't let them they immediately gone, yet most of them die in the middle of fight too, if I want to see impressive play I go watch a video ok, just kill the boss efficiently.
I use finger severer when someone doesn’t say hi back
@@Abdullah-cj2mhfr
Had this with promised consort 😂
At about 40% health I was like “why is he’s still attacking only me?” And looked around to find the host by the fog gate with binoculars out…
left immediately
In DS2-3 I got so tired of getting summoned for boss fights where the host would die when I was just trying to get embered or get free souls that I thought "I don't care if all you do is literally run, your job is to not die" and I was glad if they did so, I can handle the boss.
In Elden Ring it's different. Literally just yesterday I was putting my sign down for the swamp mansion boss (don't wanna spoil what it is) because I was struggling against him. First boss in the DLC so far that was giving me trouble so I was practicing this way against him so I could learn his moveset faster, and I land on this host *with a greatshield tank build* who summons only me and then proceeded to stay back the whole time. Meanwhile I'm struggling and idk how he can't freaking tell, but still he does nothing and eventually I ran out of flasks and he just let me die. Then ofc I see him die to the boss while dead before the session even ended. All you could've done is just walk forward with your greatshield and wait, stay safe, draw a grand total of 30 seconds of aggro. Apparently freaking not.
I don't have as much incentive to "win" in Elden Ring co-op anymore because I don't feel I get as much out of it as in DS games. Now I just do it for fun, so yeah, if I run into players like these now, I leave. These guys piggy back on us then turn around and say "Malenia was easy"
Yeah I keep getting summoned. One was for Malenia twice. Both times the host died to her Second state starter move. It was the same host too. Some people can't even fight Radragon with 2 other people.
@@christopher961 I don't understand why you'd summon players for a boss like Malenia if you haven't learned how to dodge that or her waterfowl dance yet. If you can survive both but still struggle, np, but otherwise, you're wasting everyone's time
I've gotten a lot of hosts like this, it honestly makes me conflicted: I know for certain I can kill Malenia with no sweat, so the host not fucking the fight up is nice. However, the sheer amount of people that just think they can win for free without doing anything is crazy, baffling sometimes
The Host looked like the type of build to do that type of maidenless behaviour
Lmao what is that? Build horoscope?
@@Chaoszwaihander3434 hell yeah hahaha. As soon as you see that white mask they cant be trusted
laughed more than i should.
My bro let someone solo the dlc final boss for him and he was in the discord like “LETS FUCKING GOOOO” i was baffled. I mean i felt bad enough using the antspur fingerprint stone shield cheese but some people really have no shame lmao.
I feel like I need to see this
its a game not a fucking examination or something let people play how they want to
@creeperYT9824
Look I’m all for the let people play how they want but what this dude is saying the guy didn’t even play the game someone else beat it for him.
@@NievesTheWitch as long as he is having fun its fine
@creeperYT9824 being carried because you're just as useless in-game as you are in real life is fun for nobody. It's literally just a bragging right to say people completed task for you with the most minimal amount of effort on your part. That's the equivalent of the guy who sleeps on the job getting that promotion you worked hard for and all you got out of that whole endeavor is few crummy cents raise.
That's when you wip out the greatshield and let her heal back to full
welp that is the most laziest person in elden ring
Solo radagon by myself before I noticed the host was hiding but I thought he just backed up to heal. Watched as in elden beast bro ran immediately and hid, so I went up, pointed down, and left. Bro has all his flasks im sure he did fine 🙂
Yeah, he WOULD be named Twinku. Oddly fitting name.
Would have thrown a frenzied flame stone, heal Malenia and then draw Malenia next to them before leaving.
Meanwhile, I was helping a newbie on Margit with my new char, and we lost just barely one time with like a sliver of hp left, but he ended up calling me again and we had an epic fight where we absolutely obliteratd Margit as I only got hit once lol
Char dude!
@@tenshimohagon7790 No I was a wizard (Azolh I think it was still set to) but char dude sounds cool! lol
Reminds me of DS3 when some dude summoned me for Curserotted Greatwood, of all bosses. It's an easy fight for free runes, and I wanted to practice being a summon since it was my first game. He was obviously a noob too, since he sucked at spacing Phase 2 and kept getting grabbed and dying. Then we had a glitch where I couldn't even enter the arena and was stuck swinging wildly at the fog gate... Being resummoned for the fourth time and both of us immediately doing the "collapse in despair" emote at the same time was the most connected I've ever felt to a stranger I couldn't speak to. We beat the boss easy after that. Hopefully he got better at the game. I wonder if he also remembers the time he summoned Keanu Reaves to help him beat up a tree...
This made me laugh so hard. He took a nap right by the door.
Pure Maidenless behaviour
So is leaving like that sure they’re not doing anything but they wouldn’t be much help anyway and i bet if they did try to help and died the people helping would be max that he tried a lot of people do that and tbf the 2 summons had it sorted
I hate when I am summoned as a hunter and the host throws out "honor" like the mechanic is I'm here to help, not do the work for you
Honestly fuck it, I hate it more when I invade, and another dude invades and then the other invaded helps the host and his summon fight me, like dude, red on red violence should be illegal, I'm kn your side
Appropriate. I'll never understand why sheep even bother spending almost a hundred dollars on games just to do absolutely nothing or be braindead cheesy other than to maybe feel a sliver of worth? The only time I ever sat back in a boss fight was the Kos Parasite in Bloodborne, and that's only because I was at half hp, out of vials, out of silver and the person that came to help me was trying their damned hardest after we got it to half hp. So I just did my best to survive and not sully their efforts.
Thank you legendary hunter, wherever you are now.
There are some niche excuses, for example, i have a friend who only cares about PVP, like, PVE could not possibly interest him less
So he has me kill all the super tough bosses for him so he can get all the remembrance items
He has 0 fun engaging in PVE, and just wants to fuck around in PVP, which means i get to fight the bosses twice, and he doesnt have to deal with the bosses, which he doesnt have fun fighting, win-win for both of us
@@MrToastyYT A shame but understandable, least you both get something out of it. Dark Souls 2 had the best PvP in my opinion
I did this not too long ago. I was helping people with the sunflower boss. And during the 2nd phase I noticed that the phantom was hacking because he took absolutely no damage from the big aoe explosion the boss does and so I just left.
On PC or??
warranted as fuck, if youre just gonna sit there and watch the boss die, why even play?
i’ve had this happen before with morgott. i just lured the boss to the host and got him killed
You can tell when a host has never praised the sun before.
Oh you just know he unsummones the 2nd guy when Malenia was 1 shot away, then took last 5-10s and recorded it to post on reddit or sm
I was playing with a friend of mine and were doing Melania in hos ng+2 and were summoning for fun. He uses gamertags and I use character names for multiplayer. He summoned someone and I informed him he summoned "sit and watch". So we did. I don't think he was prepared for what he was walking into though.
Game journalist mode
There’s a lot you can learn about people from how they play souls games, and this was just mad entitled icl😭🙏
Then you have the cases of people summoning you and literally stand still
I know that feeling and I thank them for it. It's because of them I became a "jack of all trade" boss killer. The downside is that you really can't master the bosses 😞
I'll usually die if it's a boss I rarely get summoned for. But maliketh, radagon/elden beast, Godfrey, rykard, morgott, mohg, fire giant, malenia and even the dancing lion are so easy to beat.
I've seen this kind of behavior while invading. Some hosts will run all the way back to the grace and leave the co-op phantoms to fight me. Then when the phantoms die they just summon someone else. I always wonder why the co-op phantoms even bother when the host isn't willing to play the game.
Look, I'm someone who is happy to solo, but my name will SAY that I'm happy to solo. I mean you don't even have to attack, recently I was helping people out with the dlc's final boss and the host just kept shooting the Heal From Afar spell anytime I got hit. Even being 100% passive is viable, just be helpful
I had a host do this once on Melania, and both i and the other summon stood behind him and let Melania do her thing
Listen, I summoned a "Let me Solo Her" player when I first fought Melenia, so I knew what kind of contract I was getting into, it was in the name, afterall. But I didn't see any contract here. I could accept hanging back and playing defensively too, you are the host afterall, and if you die, the fight ends for everyone. However, I still expect you to be a part of the fight, pulling agro when you can. Even just casting healing spells are a great help mid-fight if you can, and at least you are trying to help.
I had a summon decide to do this to me, kicked him right before she died
I would have left too. There are a few cases where, as a summon, I've stepped back and sat on the side lines because another summon decided to solo Malenia (and it was in their name).
The only other time I'll leave hosts is for fight clubs (not interested) and a host that doesn't learn how to fight or share hate with their summons after 3 tries. Running into the boss head-on, just because you have a summoned person, and getting 2-shot multiple times is just a waste of everyone's time.
I find it harder to be in close combat in coop with bosses since I can’t read moves when everyone is shooting lasers and shit at it.
Law of regression goes so fucking hard here, trust
when I fall back it's because I had to heal and rebuff then get back to the battle asap. Maybe start casting spells or heal spamming my teamates.
Yikes. Can’t say I blame you.
Having the host do nothing after summoning 2 people is more infuriating than having the host be aggressive with you and die. Despite having the same outcome, you can still see that the host tries on the second scenario.
Bro was taking a tan while you guys went to war.
"elden ring is soo easy"
Honestly I prefer the host doing this rather than dying to waterfowl dance like they do 98% of the time.
I'm petty, I'd stop attacking and waste their time as much as possible. Depending on the character I'm playing, just pull up a greatshield and block forever.
There are 3 types of people that summon:
1: legitimately just needs some help with a hard boss/area.
2: someone who needs to get their head checked w/ how horrendously bad they are. They will die within 5 seconds (this is not an exaggeration, 4/10 people I help will die before I even enter the fog gate.)
3: people who let you play the game for them then go on twitter and clown everyone who says a boss is hard.
For an extra: People who could easily beat the boss on their own, but are just lazy, I dont mind these people, its nice to fight w/ someone capable of playing the game.
@@nebulittle5697 you forgot the secret one. The trolls. People who summon you only to try and kill you so they can laugh at you in the messages. (Like litraly using a great shield and being like a magnet who is alive, and tries to be a living wall next to you constantly, so a boss can hit you becease they where in your doge window way.) And once you died they teabag you and throw some shit at you.
The most rare player to find but they are there waiting for there target
While I don't usually summon, on occasion in the Dark Souls games if I see someone's sign next to a boss I may call them up. I know it can be hard sometimes to get summoned so I like to think I'm helping people get their humanity/embers and Sunlight Medals. In Elden Ring I don't even see other players' summon signs because there's basically no reason to use the Furlcalling Finger Remedy unless you're explicitly trying to do coop, whereas in DS2 and DS3 you got HP bonuses for being in human form/embered so you would see summon signs coincidentally as a result. DS1 there's not much reason to be in human form except to kindle bonfires, but it might still come up on occasion.
@@Greywander87 People just wanna do co-op, it's fun to be able to help people out, thats the only reason I do it. As for those who summon, it's just because some of the less hard-core players that got into elden ring don't have the mental endurance to put in 100 attempts into some random boss.
I think that's the response you were looking for.
I’ve had this happen to me and he even kicked me out with the boss having 2 hits left in him I guess to make it look like he beat it themself lmfaooo 😭💀
i had a summon beat malenia for me solo, and to my absolute amazement the legend that was "MALENIA'S CROTCH" managed to spend 99% of the fight not taking damage until literally the final few seconds of her second phase, and they still got the win. i then ran up to them, did the elden ring equivalent of giving them a big wet kiss (just kind of weirdly bowing in their general direction) but at least i was _present_ for it, and all credit to that person for not only doing a solo run while i fearfully ran orbits from a distance, but i was cocking _invested_ in the whole thing
for the record the only other boss i've summoned for so far (co-op summons, ashes i abuse to hell and back unabashedly) is Mohg, which i even called a Discord friend up for to try and help, but i ended up beating him solo anyway after i realised that doing co-op was just buffing his health, so... whoops.
so, y'know. it kind of balances out
edit: i also read further down the comments that this host apparently _summoned you back three times_, what the hell?! at least have the shame to never summon that person again if they don't flawlessly solo the boss like you wanted-
Could be just me, but anytime I put down my summon sign, I have the intention of soloing the boss for people that are stuck on whatever it may be. I always get kinda annoyed when my flow is broken because of an aggro swap from the host poking the boss randomly.
100% this is the reason there's a stigma of not Respecting what so ever players who use summons, granted there are host who cant do it aloen they need help snd will put in the effort with help, but guys like this one give all host a bad name.
that build looks fun, and you got nice drip too!
Whilst the fetid pot had the stronger symbolic meaning, chasing the host with frenzyflame stones could've been fun too.
their kind are all of a piece, pillagers emboldened by the flame of laziness. i hope that host nevwr beats malenia >:/
"its not cheating if im using in-game features"
This is why I've always felt that your first ever fight with a boss on a character save file, whether it's on the first playthrough or NG+10, should be barred from multiplayer until you can solo it first.
I've played games where you HAVE to be able to prove that you can hold your own before you get to play with others and it's really nice knowing that the only people that I'm going to run into are people that can also hang like me.
@@KamikaziiKiddgatekeeping at its finest 😂😂😂 not saying what the guy did in the video is right by any means, but you’re literally just gatekeeping like a bitch here and here 😂😂😂😂
@@richizzle39 That's unfortunately a large part of the souls community. You use magic then you're playing wrong. Use spirit summon then you're playing wrong. Playing with randoms or a friend then you're playing wrong. It's kinda dumb they wanna struggle to feel accomplished which is fine but don't force others to think that's the correct way to play
@KamikaziiKidd I mean I kinda get where you're coming from, but if that was the case, I still would be on new game, Maliketh keeps kicking my ass second phase, but unlike that dickhead in the video, I don't rob myself from awesome boss fights
@@KamikaziiKidd absolutely not ? if people need help to beat a boss, wether it's the first time or not, as long they actively participate too then they have the right to do it. Let people enjoy the game they buy instead of trying to make it unenjoyable and frustrating at all times
"LOL, those casuls can't beat the game and they write negative reviews"
Lol. A couple days ago i was helping someone with Malenia but they never told me they were at Rune Level 1 😭
I wouldn't really mind a host doing this with Malenia, I do enjoy fighting her alone
But so many hosts I've helped cannot dodge her scarlet bloom at the start of her second phase, they just start running in one direction and she lands directly on them
I try my best to agro Malenia enough but it seems to fail most of the time
Tbh, I am tempted to put a summon down just so I don't have to redo the entire game for a single fight.
Such a great boss, hope the DLC tops her (I am yet to play it lol)
They did, but not saying who
@@WeDeserveWorldPeace be well prepared when you do enter the dlc
This happened to me against the deathrite bird from the dlc, but in my case the other summon guy he also left me alone facing the Boss, I lured the Boss to them and sat watching them almost die before the host kicked me out
The poison pot had me cracking up lol
Good buddy of mine and I were on Melania for a solid few hours. This was way back when Rivers of Blood and Moonveil was op, I was shit at the game but still gave it my all. We eventually beat her and it was amazing.
That looks like a really cool build what is it? Int Fth str?
Thanks i call it "true death build" using the verry things to cause death to all. But stats aren't specific for this one. I hard capped the build and all the stats are except vigor 80. Vigor is 98
I had a host like this with elden beast and i dont mind solooing bosses to be honest but he had the disrespect to not even say thanks and the Audacity to say "i finally beat elden ring alone 🎉"
Why tf did he even get the game in the first place?
@@Vincent-39 we will never know.
Seriously dont get it, malenia is an optional boss, if youre bad and cant solo her while not also wanting to coop her, then dont do her😊
I want to beat malenia but for some reason she's the only boss that has given me that much trouble.. I wanted to try and beat her with either mimic tear or another strong spirit ash but I've had trouble... I did have trouble with maliketh too but I did end up beating him.. The only boss I've summoned another player for help is the twin gargoyles...
@@lololollololol629 my first playthrough long ago i thought it was impossible and i beat her using black knife tiche summon if i recall correctly. but recently I decided to replay the game and beat malenia without any summons and it didnt take as many tries as i thought cus i retained a lot of the muscle memory for her attacks. you really can learn how to dodge her consistently if you give it time and patience
hell if you dont feel like learning to dodge waterfowl through trial and error look up how on youtube. its maybe not easy to figure out on your own but once you know how its done its simple
personally I beat her with an occult flamberge at 80 arcane cus staggering with jump attacks as well as applying a good amount of bleed is very very handy...
weapons that stagger, apply bleed, or apply frostbite, or a combination of any of those will help a ton
@@lololollololol629 Id say Malenia is better off fighting solo, because then she doesnt heal off your summons
Shes a parriable boss, use Carian Retaliation or Golden Parry for best parry frames, otherwise hit and run works just fine
@@Wakasan626 You can cheese malenia with The knife Thine assassin, as it keeps doding out Malenia (And throwing destined death randomly to the boss). Well you can use it to cheese all the bosses really, even in the DLC it seems. It won't solo them out completely, but it helps so much taking aggro from bosses and still staying alive for so long so that every boss is literally couple of tries and you'll kill them.
You can get the ashes from doing the Ranni's questline through what allows you to get into area where the small boss resides.
I am shit at malenia so i try not to hit her unless theres a clear opening, but even then i heal and buff my co ops this guy just walked away
Can’t blame you, honestly don’t mind people using summons it’s a game feature but if your not even gonna help in any way- yeh bye lmao
I have no problem if you cheese the game with op build or weapon or magic.
They are all legitimate ways to kill a boss and you shouldn't be a shame but this is shameful and maiden less behavior.
I'm helping random in DLC and we are fighting this boss and when I look around the host is nowhere to be found.
The only way that I know where he is that the boss accidentally tracked the host while wearing Mimic Veil at the corner of the arena.
Next time use the madness warming stone
How we go from everyone trying to do no hit runs or lvl1 runs or even speedruns in ds1 to ds3 on the regular, to the average person now literally AFK’ing in the arena.
I swear whenever I do CO-OP 75% of hosts are like this now, and 25% of them get instantly one shot out the fog gate. This is in the end game bosses too such as dlc, which is crazy because they got that far without learning any of the games mechanics.
Your build looks super fun ! Did you go with faith/int as main stats ? :)
@@Luntgar i don't know what i used honestly. I think i began getting the black knife stats 1st, then trying to get the stats for maliketh's black blade, and death's poker. And then i was like why not every stat incase i wanna change things and play with something better to cause death. And well before the dlc was out everything became 80 in stats except vigor that is 98. All for the sake of being able to play with what ever the dlc could give, and being able to play with the weapons, incantations, or new magic. As strong as you can make them
mf i must live under a rock bc idek u could leave the world like that
I've had this happen , I just leave mid fight
I've noticed a lot of people playing like this since the DLC dropped, sitting at a comfortable distance spamming ranged and running with their tail between their legs anytime the boss gets too close for their liking.
I'm not going to sever, but I'm also not going to try if the host clearly doesn't care about helping.
Helping in the DLC sucks. A lot of them never bothered collecting enough fragments so the bosses take way too long to kill and most times 2 shots them.
I used to hate hosts like that, but then I learned lot of the time the host is running away because they dont want to die and get you sent back and waste your time. As long as they're contributing SOMETHING I'd say at least see the fight to the end.
@zeroeffortstick The only time they're wasting is their own, but hey, it gives me more dodge practice at least.
@@brandonwolford5021cant tell you how many times my coop session ended right after entering fog because host got vigor checked by the boss first move..
If you’re not gonna play the game, why the hell did you spend 70 dollars on it? Weirdest players ever.
Literally, .. at least change ur build to range if u want someone else to aid u, not simply letting them go alone .. unless ofcoz that person is "let me solo her"
If co-op has taught me anything, its to never help those who are not deserving.
If you need help with malenia, you aint gonna improve if i do all the work.
This is why invasions are fun
Such disrespect!
You tell em, babe
My build is just vigor stamina and moores armor plus verdigris greatshield i tank hits and take agro but id do the same if the host wasnt helping
Valid choice
i at least try to help by healing or using magic from afar (normal game 1 and dlc bosses hitting like trucks im lvl 181) still makes me feel crappy tho :c
Good decision
Awesome video! Would you mind sharing your build?
@@hood3439 Build is black knife, death's poker and maliketh's black blade. Stats are all 80 except vigor that is 98
@@ultimatelegend8306 tysm sorry if the question was annoying but the build is super awesome
@@hood3439 oh no. asking a question is not a problem, but hearing multiple times the same question being asked becomes a bit mutch. to make me repeatingly answering the same thing. And I don't blame you for not knowing this, but it's getting a bit tiring for me
@@ultimatelegend8306 I understand, making a build showcase video could also be a good idea I think. Lots of people find it super awesome :D
@@hood3439 thing is i kinda already did so when i showed my build for the dlc😅
Im still learning the game. Nice vid. Dont blame ya. I would've done the same.
Really hope the other FF saw him and left too
I am long time jolly cooperator but Let Me Solo Her kind of ruined it. I see hosts like this all the time and i usually just kite the boss over to them as soon as i notice 😂😂😂😂
I did this with my friend, I “helped” him through most of the game without damaging the enemies, I would run to the enemies and do bad dodges and stuff without ever helping. Took until Rennalla for him to realise I hadn’t done anything 😂he’s a bit slow
Maybe he was doing a summons only run?
If that was the case why did he tried to hit malenia also before going afk, and why didn't he heal his summons in the fight as a support. That is the least you can do if you are doing an only summons run.
@@ultimatelegend8306coulda buffed the summons debugged malenia
The gesture was rude, but that's probably what I'd also do. Stay in the back and not draw aggro. Malenia is just a walking time bomb, and I can't do shit against her Waterfowl.
Doesn’t malania go after the host in her second phase as her first attack?
I mean the host playing safer than the other two is normal, since if he dies they lose too, but this…
Maybe it's his first time fighting her and he doesn't know there is a second phase. Haha