I belive the reason was because the voice actor was diagnosed with cancer and his chances of survival were slim, so they killed him off prematuraly because they thought he would not survive. Thankfully he did, but the damage was already done
Marco gets attacked by a horse and survives easily, Empowered Mina gets attacked by a horse and dies. Marco is the strongest character in the series confirmed??
The only thing that's worse than watching a bad show is watching a show that was actually pretty good destroy itself until the only thing remembered by it is it's awful ass ending.
@@D3viant517 This is exactly the tragedy of bad endings for long, story-oriented shows. The first couple of seasons could be great, full of 8-10/10s. But then the latter seasons are full of stinkers, themes and characters get mishandled, show's not as enjoyable, etc. All culminating in an ending that makes the payoff of everything the show was building up feel like a waste of time. And the worst part is that it's kinda hard to separate the good and the bad in shows like this because they're connected by the plot. In SVTFOE, you can't really enjoy episodes that involve Marco and Jackie or Star and Tom because you KNOW how terribly those relationships end up. In SU, the episodes where the Gems reminisce about how much Rose meant to them and how they miss her kinda get undercut by the reveal of her being Pink Diamond, and the resulting consequences of her disguise that affects the entire show. Those shows are still decent, without a doubt. But knowing how they degrade over seasons makes it hard to come back to them.
I have said this to someone before: the fact that the owl house managed to create an overall satisfying conclusion when it got dealt a heavy hand with 3 episodes of a season 3 to wrap EVERYTHING UP while star vs had far more episodes in its final season yet managed to fumble the bag hard by the end is a testament. The writing truly went off the rails
The fact that The Owl House was able to go off with such a great ending, in spite of the handicap for season 3, is a complete and total miracle by the grace of God.
@@eatatjoes6751 Wholeheartedly agree as well given it had a whole other season planned and disney granted them one last episode to wrap the show up in the way they wanted it to. Which is super unlike disney btw
@@eatatjoes6751 I heard that the creators had an ending already planned out just in case they were cancelled, as it was up in the air at the time (during season two) if they’d get a third season. They were initially planning for a third season (as the original season two finale was open ended), but like Disney TV do, they announced the cancellation right when season two was wrapping up, forcing the creators to use their planned ending episode sooner than expected.
What gets me about the finale was that Star literally deleted a fundamental force of the universe to save a group of people from being pushed off a cliff, killing a literally incalculable amount of people in the aftermath between her spells, the high commission, anyone in unfortunate spots when the dimensional merge happened, and literally anyone who relied on magic to live in one way or another. It's like if someone decided to delete gravity from the universe to save a town of like, 1000 people tops.
Star already showed signs of actaully being bad when she tried to murder Gustav, and her "he's a c*nnibal" theory was a conspiracy she made up completely because she was jealous. And when she gets mewberty she literally KIDNAPS boys. Star was definitely real sus at times even before the finale
Fun fact. According to supplementary materials, aka, books and such, Glossaryck *created* the Magic High Commission, meaning that not only he made them violently incompetent on purpose, he also created them fully knowing that he's arranging everything for them to be erased from existence one day. Bit rude if you ask me.
@logannottheonefrommarvel9917 imagine if they actually pulled the trigger on that. Mina is the bait-and-switch and Glossaryk becomes the real villain of Season 4. Imagine having your trusted mentor figure who's been in your family's bloodline for centuries secretly be committing a self-erasure long game to wipe out all magic. That sounds interesting, but NO! WE HAD TO DEAL WITH LAME SHIPPING FUEL AND A NOTHING BURGER OF A VILLIAN WITH CHARACTERS WHO ARE VERY INCONSISTENT THROUGHOUT!!!! ISN'T IT FUN?!?!?!
Fun Fact: The reason why the animation got changed after Season 1 is because they changed the animation studio. That studio (Mercury Filmwoks ) also animated Hilda. ( I don't know if you have watched Hilda )
I love how cartoonshi puts in intermission breaks even though this is a youtube video and i can just pause anytime i want and come back to watching as if nothing ever happened
Eclipsa being first introduced as a mysterious looming villain. Then being released. Then being showed to not actually be a villain but a rather morally gray and rather sympathetic character. Then for her daughter, to be revealed to be the next villain. Then for her to be the actual heir to the throne, saving the kingdom and thus establishing her role as ruler and a good person. Then to being completely indifferent to being the harbinger of doom by committing magical genocide along with Star and Moon, a pure act of evilness. I hate it here.
one thing I disliked was when the show switched from kinetic and energetic flash animation, to stiff hand drawn animation, which lessens the impacts of battles and some general visual charms being gone.
@@goobusmcdoobus2 I don't think S2 and beyond had hand drawn animation, it just looks like stiffer puppet animation. If anything, I think S1 was the only season to use hand drawn (it looks like mostly puppet animation, with hand drawn scenes used here and there for the faster scenes) S1 was animated by Rough Draft Korea, while everything else was done by Mercury Filmworks. I think that's the actual reason why the animation took such a hit
@@11bg00 in the general animation landscape, that is true, but the implementation of hand drawn on the show caused a lot of stiffer fight scenes, general visual degradation and a lack of expressive style.
@@kanati1133GoT's downfall was entirely because of incompetence, had DnD followed the books and introduced young griff + gives us the real Euron Greyjoy they would have made gold.
@@guerreiroazul3230 I say greed only cause iirc DnD was offered a star wars deal which they leaped immediately. Which had them try to wrap up GoT as fast a possible to get said deal. Only to not even get it after the poor reception of GoT, they saw dollar signs and ran for it only to have a lose-lose scenario on their hands
Autistic people (me) when my favorite youtuber (cartoonshi) posts a several hour video ranking every episode of my favorite show (I've never watched it in my life)
I wonder if autistic people enjoy watching video essays/rants on stories of TV shows like this one and video games like Inazuma Eleven GO: Chrono Stone, Pokemon Sword & Shield, Kingdom Hearts 3, and Pokemon Scarlet & Violet.
Yeah it’s so odd how nowadays nobody brings up star vs anymore despite it easily being the most popular Disney xd original (second most popular if u count gravity falls as an xd show) during its run and one of the most popular cartoons of the 2010s Nobody mentions a peep about the show anymore and the fanbase is pretty much dead, it’s like the show left no impact Yeah Ik it’s hated but so was Steven universe and that show is still talked about to this day and it still has a dedicated fanbase In fact I’d say SU had far more hate during its later seasons than star vs season 4 ever did
Because I don't have nothing better to do, here's the final ranking with timestamps. Yes. 140. The Ponyhead Show! (S4 E6a) 1:52:57 👎 (Worst of Season 4) 139. Out of Business (S4 E7a) 1:54:42 138. Ponymonium* (S3 E11b) 1:28:31 👎 (Worst of Season 3) *Second worst in the season ranking, swapped with the next one 137. Death Peck* (S3 E11a) 1:28:09 *Worst in the season ranking, swapped with the last one 136. Doop-Doop (S4 E15a) 2:08:58 135. Heinous (S2 E19a) 1:02:24 👎 (Worst of Season 2) 134. Cleaved (S4 E21) 2:18:51 133. Pizza Thing (S2 E12b) 49:15 132. Bam Ui Pati! (S3 E19a) 1:41:30 131. Collateral Damage (S2 E20a) 1:04:05 130. Goblin Dogs (S2 E7a) 40:44 129. Sophomore Slump* (S3 E7b) 1:22:27 *In the ranking title card, it says season 2 instead of 3 128. The Knight Shift (S4 E11a) 2:03:05 127. Curse of the Blood Moon (S4 E8) 1:56:39 126. Sad Teen Hotline* (S4 E17a) 2:11:23 *Number 29 in the season ranking, lowered 2 spots here 125. Britta's Tacos (S4 E15b) 2:09:33 124. Junkin' Janna* (S4 E12a) 2:05:14 *Number 28 in the season ranking, lowered one spot here 123. Fetch (S2 E3b) 35:49 122. Swim Suit* (S4 E3b) 1:49:41 *Number 27 in the season ranking, lowered one spot here 121. Yada Yada Berries* (S4 E5a) 1:51:28 *26 in the season ranking, lowered one spot here 120. The Bogbeast of Boggabah (S3 E15a) 1:33:17 119. Down by the River* (S4 E5b) 1:52:14 *24 in the season ranking, lowered 2 spots here 118. Ready, Aim, Fire* (S4 E18b) 2:12:56 *20 in the season ranking, lowered 5 spots here 117. Pizza Party* (S4 E20a) 2:15:29 *19 in the season ranking, lowered 5 spots here 116. Scent of a Hoodie (S3 E5a) 1:18:33 115. Lint Catcher (S3 E8a) 1:24:05 114. Gift of the Card* (S2 E9b) 45:07 *33 in the season ranking, swapped with number 36 113. Trial by Squire (S3 E8b) 1:24:50 112. Red Belt* (S2 E2b) 34:25 *Number 34 in the season ranking, swapped with the next one 111. All Belts are Off* (S2 E19b) 1:03:57 *Number 35 in the season ranking, swapped with the last one 110. Surviving the Spiderbites* (S4 E6b) 1:54:00 *Number 25 in the season ranking, bumped 2 spots here, and it's season 4, not 3 109. The Banagic Incident (S1 E11b) 24:31 👎 (Worst of Season 1) 108. Cornonation* (S4 E14) 2:07:39 *Not mentioned in the final ranking, I put it at number 22 as the season ranking says 107. Trickstar* (S2 E15b) 54:54 *Number 36 in the season ranking, swapped with Gift of the Card 106. The Tavern at the End of the Multiverse (S4 E20b) 2:17:03 105. Queen-Napped* (S4 E11b) 2:04:30 *Number 31 in the season ranking, bumped 11 SPOTS here 104. Divide* (S3 E20) 1:42:18 *29 in the season ranking, swapped with the next one 103. Mathmagic* (S2 E17a) 58:36 *Not mentioned in the final ranking, would be between number 107 and 98 102. Booth Buddies* (S3 E18b) 1:40:38 *30 in the season ranking, swapped with the last one 101. Meteora's Lesson* (S4 E10b) 2:01:49 *Number 23 in the season ranking, bumped up 4 spots here 100. Stump Day (S3 E14a) 1:32:23 99. Marco Jr. (S3 E17b) 1:37:29 98. Naysaya (S2 E13b) 50:59 97. A Spell with No Name (S4 E12b) 2:06:17 96. Holiday Spellcial (S3 E14b) 1:32:56 95. Mama Star* (S4 E18a) 2:12:36 *Number 12 in the season ranking, lowered 5 spots here 94. Ghost of Butterfly Castle* (S4 E9b) 1:59:34 *Number 17 in the season ranking, bumped up one spot here 93. Jannanigans* (S4 E17b) 2:11:50 *Number 13 in the season ranking, lowered 2 spots here 92. Crystal Clear* (S2 E18a) 59:51 *Number 29 in the season ranking, swapped with number 30 91. Here to Help (S4 E19b) 2:14:19 90. Club Snubbed (S3 E6a) 1:19:40 89. Beach Day* (S4 E16a) 2:10:06 *Number 16 in the season ranking bumped 3 spots here 88. Butterfly Follies* (S4 E1) 1:46:52 *10 in the season ranking, lowered 2 spots here 80+7. Escape from the Pie Folk (S4 E2) 1:48:17 86. Gone Baby Gone* (S4 E16b) 2:10:32 *Number 15 in the season ranking, bumped up 5 spots here 85. Starfari (S3 E9b) 1:25:58 84. Star vs. Echo Creek* (S2 E4a) 36:29 *Number 30 in the season ranking, swapped with Crystal Clear 83. By the Book (S2 E7b) 41:36 82. The Battle for Mewni: Puddle Defender (S3 E3a) 1:14:01 81. Royal Pain (S1 E9b) 20:02 80. Is Another Mystery (S3 E17a) 1:37:02 79. Spider With a Top Hat* (S2 E11b) 47:52 *Number 26 in the season ranking, swapped with number 27 78. Moon Remembers (S4 E3a) 1:49:07 77. Cornball! (S4 E10a) 2:01:10 76. The Bounce Lounge* (S2 E17b) 59:35 *Number 27 in the season ranking, swapped with Spider With a Top Hat 75. Interdimensional Field Trip* (S1 E12a) 25:48 *Number 20 in the season ranking, lowered 2 spots here 74. Pixtopia* (S1 E6b) 12:46 *Number 22 in the season ranking, bumped one spot thanks to the last episode 73. A Boy and His DC-700XE (S4 E13a) 2:06:32 72. Lake House Fever* (S4 E4b) 1:50:57 *Number 5 in the season ranking, swapped with number 6 71. Is Mystery (S2 E10b) 46:28 70. Rest in Pudding (S3 E5b) 1:19:15 69 (noice). Tough Love (S3 E19b) 1:41:40 68. The Other Exchange Student* (S1 E3b) 7:18 *Number 21 in the season ranking, bumped up one spot here thanks to Interdimensional Field Trip 67. Mr. Candle Cares (S2 E2a) 33:30 66. The Right Way* (S4 E19a) 2:13:38 *Number 6 in the season ranking, swapped with Lake House Fever 65. Diaz Family Vacation (S1 E5a) 10:03 64. The Battle for Mewni: Toffee* (S3 E4) 1:15:52 *Number 18 in the season ranking, swapped with the next one 63. Stranger Danger* (S3 E6b) 1:20:32 *Number 19 in the season ranking, swapped with the last one 62. Starstruck (S2 E5a) 38:10 61. Girls' Day Out (S2 E8b) 43:29 60. Ransomgram (S4 E4a) 1:50:35 59. Just Friends (S2 E20b) 1:05:05 58. The Battle for Mewni: Book Be Gone (S3 E2a) 1:12:48 57. Kelly's World (S4 E7b) 1:55:51 56. On the Job* (S2 E6b) 40:05 *Number 16 in the season ranking, lowered 4 spots here 55. Monster Arm* (S1 E3a) 6:29 *Number 16 in the season ranking, lowered 2 spots here 54. Cheer Up, Star* (S1 E4a) 8:12 *Number 15 in the season ranking, lowered 2 spots here 53. Friendenemies* (S2 E10a) 45:49 *20 in the season ranking, bumped up one spot thanks to On the Job 52. Camping Trip* (S2 E5b) 39:07 *Number 17 in the season ranking, lowered one spot here 51. Baby* (S2 E16a) 55:58 *Number 13 in the season ranking, lowered 4 spots here 50. Starsitting* (S2 E6a) 39:32 *15 in the season ranking, lowered one spot here 49. Lava Lake Beach* (S3 E10b) 1:27:36 *Number 13 in the season ranking, lowered 3 spots here 48. Hungry Larry* (S2 E11a) 47:06 *Number 19 in the season ranking, bumped up 4 spots here 47. Mewberty* (S1 E6a) 11:49 *14 in the season ranking, lowered 2 spots here 46. Princess Turdina* (S3 E9a) 1:25:16 *11 in the season ranking, lowered 4 spots here 45. Match Maker* (S1 E2a) 4:12 *13 in the season ranking, lowered 2 spots here 44. Night Life* (S3 E12a) 1:29:27 *16 in the season ranking, bumped up 2 spots here 43. Page Turner* (S2 E13a) 49:39 *First of all, is season 2, not 1, and this episode isn´t mentioned in the final ranking, I put it at number 14 like the season ranking says, would be between number 37 and 48 42. Lobster Claws* (S1 E7a) 13:39 *Number 18 in the season ranking, bumped up 4 spots here 41. Party With a Pony* (S1 E1b) 3:25 *12 in the season ranking, lowered one spot here 40. The Battle for Mewni: Marco and the King* (S3 E2b) 1:13:25 *Number 15 in the season ranking, bumped up 2 spots here 39. Demoncism* (S3 E7a) 1:21:49 *Number 14 in the season ranking, bumped up 2 spots here 38. The Battle for Mewni: King Ludo* (S3 E3b) 1:15:21 *Number 12 in the season ranking, bumped up one spot here 37. Game of Flags* (S2 E8a) 42:55 *Number 18 in the season ranking, bumped up 5 spots here 36. Marco Grows a Beard* (S1 E12b) 26:27 *Number 17 in the season ranking, bumped up 5 spots here 35. Wand to Wand (S2 E4b) 37:11 34. Total Eclipsa the Moon (S3 E15b) 1:33:57 33. Mewnipendance Day* (S1 E11a) 22:35 *Number 9 in the season ranking, swapped with number 11 (dont say it dont say it) 32. Star on Wheels* (S2 E3a) 35:07 *Number 10 in the season ranking, swapped with the next one 31. My New Wand!* (S2 E1a) 30:43 *Number 11 in the season ranking, swapped with the last one 30. Quest Buy (S1 E4b) 8:48 29. Sleep Spells* (S1 E7b) 14:46 *Number 11 in the season ranking, swapped with Mewnipendance Day 28. Star Comes to Earth (S1 E1a) 1:59 27. Skooled!* (S3 E18a) 1:38:07 *Number 8 in the season ranking, swapped with the next one 26. The Battle for Mewni: Return to Mewni* (S3 E1a) 1:10:39 *Number 9 in the season ranking, swapped with the last one 25. The Hard Way (S2 E18b) 1:01:23 24. Raid the Cave (S2 E15a) 54:16 23. Running with Scissors (S2 E16b) 57:06 22. The Monster and the Queen (S4 E13b) 2:07:07 21. Sleepover (S2 E9a) 44:04 20. Brittney's Party (S1 E5b) 10:58 19. Fortune Cookies (S1 E8b) 17:50 18. Sweet Dreams (S3 E10a) 1:26:40 17. Deep Dive (S3 E12b) 1:30:01 16. Conquer (S3 E21) 1:43:13 15. St. Olga's Reform School for Wayward Princesses* (S1 E10) 20:59 *Number 4 in the season ranking, swapped with the next one 14. Storm the Castle* (S1 E13) 27:33 *Number 5 in the season ranking, swapped with the last one 13. Butterfly Trap (S3 E16a) 1:34:32 12. Ludo in the Wild (S2 E1b) 32:25 11. Blood Moon Ball (S1 E8a) 15:52 10. Face the Music (S2 E21) 1:05:46 9. Into the Wand (S2 E12a) 48:21 8. Freeze Day (S1 E9a) 19:03 7. Monster Bash* (S3 E13) 1:31:08 *2nd best in the season ranking, swapped with the next one 6. Ludo, Where Art Thou?* (S3 E16b) 1:35:52 *3rd best in the season ranking, swapped with the last one 5. Princess Quasar Caterpillar and the Magic Bell* (S4 E9a) 1:58:08 👍 (Best of Season 4) *It´s season 4, not 3 4. The Battle for Mewni: Moon the Undauted (S3 E1b) 1:11:36 👍 (Best of Season 3) 3. School Spirit (S1 E2b) 5:12 👍 (Best of Season 1) 2. Bon Bon the Birthday Clown (S2 E14) 52:27 1. Starcrushed (S2 E22) 1:07:26 👍 (Best of Season 2, no shit Sherlock)
REAL RANKINGS OF EACH SEASON: Season 1 24. The Banagic Incident (S1 E11b) 23. Royal Pain (S1 E9b) 22. Interdimensional Field Trip (S1 E12a) 21. Pixtopia (S1 E6b) 20. The Other Exchange Student (S1 E3b) 19. Diaz Family Vacation (S1 E5a) 18. Monster Arm (S1 E3a) 17. Cheer Up, Star (S1 E4a) 16. Mewberty (S1 E6a) 15. Match Maker (S1 E2a) 14. Lobster Claws (S1 E7a) 13. Party With a Pony (S1 E1b) 12. Marco Grows a Beard (S1 E12b) 11. Mewnipendance Day (S1 E11a) 10. Quest Buy (S1 E4b) 9. Sleep Spells (S1 E7b) 8. Star Comes to Earth (S1 E1a) 7. Brittney's Party (S1 E5b) 6. Fortune Cookies (S1 E8b) 5. St. Olga's Reform School for Wayward Princesses (S1 E10) 4. Storm the Castle (S1 E13) 3. Blood Moon Ball (S1 E8a) 2. Freeze Day (S1 E9a) 1. School Spirit (S1 E2b) Season 2 41. Heinous (S2 E19a) 40. Pizza Thing (S2 E12b) 39. Collateral Damage (S2 E20a) 38. Goblin Dogs (S2 E7a) 37. Fetch (S2 E3b) 36. Gift of the Card (S2 E9b) 35. Red Belt (S2 E2b) 34. All Belts are Off (S2 E19b) 33. Trickstar (S2 E15b) 32. Mathmagic (S2 E17a) 31. Naysaya (S2 E13b) 30. Crystal Clear (S2 E18a) 29. Star vs. Echo Creek (S2 E4a) 28. By the Book (S2 E7b) 27. Spider With a Top Hat (S2 E11b) 26. The Bounce Lounge (S2 E17b) 25. Is Mystery (S2 E10b) 24. Mr. Candle Cares (S2 E2a) 23. Starstruck (S2 E5a) 22. Girls' Day Out (S2 E8b) 21. Just Friends (S2 E20b) 20. On the Job (S2 E6b) 19. Friendenemies (S2 E10a) 18. Camping Trip (S2 E5b) 17. Baby (S2 E16a) 16. Starsitting (S2 E6a) 15. Hungry Larry (S2 E11a) 14. Page Turner (S2 E13a) 13. Game of Flags (S2 E8a) 12. Wand to Wand (S2 E4b) 11. Star on Wheels (S2 E3a) 10. My New Wand! (S2 E1a) 9. The Hard Way (S2 E18b) 8. Raid the Cave (S2 E15a) 7. Running with Scissors (S2 E16b) 6. Sleepover (S2 E9a) 5. Ludo in the Wild (S2 E1b) 4. Face the Music (S2 E21) 3. Into the Wand (S2 E12a) 2. Bon Bon the Birthday Clown (S2 E14) 1. Starcrushed (S2 E22) Season 3 38. Ponymonium (S3 E11b) 37. Death Peck (S3 E11a) 36. Bam Ui Pati! (S3 E19a) 35. Sophomore Slump (S3 E7b) 34. The Bogbeast of Boggabah (S3 E15a) 33. Scent of a Hoodie (S3 E5a) 32. Lint Catcher (S3 E8a) 31. Trial by Squire (S3 E8b) 30. Divide (S3 E20) 29. Booth Buddies (S3 E18b) 28. Stump Day (S3 E14a) 27. Marco Jr. (S3 E17b) 26. Holiday Spellcial (S3 E14b) 25. Club Snubbed (S3 E6a) 24. Starfari (S3 E9b) 23. The Battle for Mewni: Puddle Defender (S3 E3a) 22. Is Another Mystery (S3 E17a) 21. Rest in Pudding (S3 E5b) 20. Tough Love (S3 E19b) 19. The Battle for Mewni: Toffee (S3 E4) 18. Stranger Danger (S3 E6b) 17. The Battle for Mewni: Book Be Gone (S3 E2a) 16. Lava Lake Beach (S3 E10b) 15. Princess Turdina (S3 E9a) 14. Night Life (S3 E12a) 13. The Battle for Mewni: Marco and the King (S3 E2b) 12. Demoncism (S3 E7a) 11. The Battle for Mewni: King Ludo (S3 E3b) 10. Total Eclipsa the Moon (S3 E15b) 9. Skooled! (S3 E18a) 8. The Battle for Mewni: Return to Mewni (S3 E1a) 7. Sweet Dreams (S3 E10a) 6. Deep Dive (S3 E12b) 5. Conquer (S3 E21) 4. Butterfly Trap (S3 E16a) 3. Monster Bash (S3 E13) 2. Ludo, Where Art Thou? (S3 E16b) 1. The Battle for Mewni: Moon the Undauted (S3 E1b) Season 4 37. The Ponyhead Show! (S4 E6a) 36. Out of Business (S4 E7a) 35. Doop-Doop (S4 E15a) 34. Cleaved (S4 E21) 33. The Knight Shift (S4 E11a) 32. Curse of the Blood Moon (S4 E8) 31. Sad Teen Hotline (S4 E17a) 30. Britta's Tacos (S4 E15b) 29. Junkin' Janna (S4 E12a) 28. Swim Suit (S4 E3b) 27. Yada Yada Berries (S4 E5a) 26. Down by the River (S4 E5b) 25. Ready, Aim, Fire (S4 E18b) 24. Pizza Party (S4 E20a) 23. Surviving the Spiderbites (S4 E6b) 22. Cornonation (S4 E14) 21. The Tavern at the End of the Multiverse (S4 E20b) 20. Queen-Napped (S4 E11b) 19. Meteora's Lesson (S4 E10b) 18. A Spell with No Name (S4 E12b) 17. Mama Star (S4 E18a) 16. Ghost of Butterfly Castle (S4 E9b) 15. Jannanigans (S4 E17b) 14. Here to Help (S4 E19b) 13. Beach Day (S4 E16a) 12. Butterfly Follies (S4 E1) 11. Escape from the Pie Folk (S4 E2) 10. Gone Baby Gone (S4 E16b) 9. Moon Remembers (S4 E3a) 8. Cornball! (S4 E10a) 7. A Boy and His DC-700XE (S4 E13a) 6. Lake House Fever (S4 E4b) 5. The Right Way (S4 E19a) 4. Ransomgram (S4 E4a) 3. Kelly's World (S4 E7b) 2. The Monster and the Queen (S4 E13b) 1. Princess Quasar Caterpillar and the Magic Bell (S4 E9a) SEASONS RANKED BY AVERAGE (RANKING AND GRADE AVERAGE) 4. Season 4: 98’27, 4’59/10 3. Season 3: 68’05, 5’86/10 2. Season 2: 64’54, 6’16/10 1. Season 1: 41’75, 7’08/10
This show exemplifies how writers can undermine their own story by focusing excessively on pleasing fans. It seems that Star and Marco were not initially intended to be a couple, but due to strong fan demand, the writers felt compelled to pair them. This decision led to Star and Marco getting their own storyline, while other characters were relegated to the main plotline. Another instance of forced fanservice is evident with the character Hekapoo. Originally, Rhombulus was meant to be the standout good member of the MHC, but Hekapoo's popularity, driven by her design and her potential pairing with Marco, pushed her into that role. This shift resulted in inconsistent character roles for both Hekapoo and Rhombulus.
I don’t think you got it right. Blood moon ball was THE episode when it became clear that Star and Marco will be endgame. This is a point in the story, from which their relationship gained romantic context. Not because of fans, but because of writers. And it’s even more evident, considering that Daron Nefcy made Marco look like her husband
I remember Daron Nefcy saying that Marco was based on her husband, so it was always going to be endgame, and so when the plot started to give signs it could be better if they weren't, the writers had to find a way to make it back to the rails, at the cost of everything else
The problem was that they never gave any single plot point or character development the time and continuity it needed. I feel the entire reason for the relationships in this show was to portray how these things can be messy and confusing. Things and feelings can change and what was love could turn into nothing. The grand issue was that like basically every thing in the show (Monsters-Mewmans, magic, Metora, Eclipsa) it was essentially shoved into a closet until whatever episode was designated the "romance" episode. Take the Marco Jackie breakup. If that was built up over the season as Marco gradually realises his feelings of Star and Mewni and we see how the relationship starts to degrade. Then it would've been fine, because we see how over time he starts to care more about Star and Jackie realizes that the relationship isn't working. However, all of this was essentially shoved into a 11 minute episode and never any more.
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Like the wise words of Blue Order "A show's finale is what leaves the lasting impact." This makes me happy that Amphibia, The Owl House and The Ghost and Molly Mcgee had great endings in my opinion.
The first season was goated. I really wish they stuck with the bouncy animation, it’s what gave it its charm. Otherwise I feel it fell into decline and I still kinda hate that it ended the way it did to this day.
Star vs is a case of switching animation studios which in this case the studio that animated season 1 (Mercury filmworks, mostly known for Hilda) was changed for what i believe is disney's south korean animation studio SugarCube, and THAT team was switched for Rough Draft Studios (well known for Drawn Toghether).
Of all things, Ludo was definitely my favorite aspect of season 2. I'm a sucker for character arcs where a character develops from being a pathetic joke villain to being a competent threat through their own hard work. It's like an underdog story, something you more frequently see with heroes than villains. Seeing a once pathetic villain actually manage to find success and competence of course makes you worried for the hero, but it's also this weird sense of pride like "yeah, good job! You've earned this!" It makes me weirdly root for the villains in some cases. And Ludo is one of my favorite examples of this, at least in season 2.
Long Cartoonshi video? On my birthday as well!? Definitely a good birthday. EDIT: I appreciate the birthday wishes all of you hope you have great weeks :D
Remindes me of hazbin hotel, so much promise and cool ideas for such little execution. Edit: this isn't me saying that the show is horrible, its just very lackluster.
One problem I have with the series is the confusion (and occasionally negative continuity) in regards to various species. For example: -Demons and monsters are apparently two different things, since demons are trusted by the royal family, and thanks to The Magic Book of Spells, we know that Celena the Shy was half-demon. -River does not know what a toilet is, so it's implied that mewmans and humans are biologically different, yet later in the series, mewmans are established to have been the descendants of humans, and also, a toilet shows up in Mewni later on. -Non-human/mewman characters like Ponyhead, Rich Pigeon, and the Magical High Commission aren't considered monsters. So what are they? -Do all mewmans go through mewberty, or just the royal family? Also, why does only the royal family have cheek marks? Edit: Star acknowledges the third point in S3E9, but it's never touched on again, and Moon, being flanderized into a racist asshole, ignores everything Star said.
I could give a theoretical answer for the toilet thing. Star and her father were more amazed that ‘earth toilets’ flushed and assumed it was magic. Since Mewni is more medieval, but the mewmans (descendants of humans) needed to use the restroom, their ‘toilets’ are more like loos or outhouses; there’s no flushing, it either goes in a sewage hole and/or is cleaned out by sewage men to be despots of (or they use chamber pots and dump it themselves). Ie, Mewni has no proper indoor plumbing and used 18th century (at the latest) forms of toilets.
i'm assuming just the royal family goes through mewberty since they're the only ones with magic. only they have cheek marks because they are a sign of magic. no one else has magic
Biologically, they are all monsters (the solarean blades affected them), but some of the species had better relations with mewmans than others, so socially, they weren’t regarded as monsters. The butterflies have cheek marks because they had greater exposure to magic than other mewmans, because of glossrick giving their ancestor the wand. You can notice that their babies are born with cheek marks, which I assume is because their mothers being exposed to magic affected them when they were in the womb.
I do have to say i appreciate cartoonshi adding intermission breaks inbetween the segments as someone who struggles keeping track of time or just clicking off its nice being reminded to take a break for a while go eat something or breath and process and then come back its nice
This couldn’t have been a better timed video! I just rewatched the entire series and seeing it all over again made me feel that frustration of the finale and all it represented all over again :/
Can I just say how much I appreciate your act breaks between seasons. No one else does that and I wish they would. Genuinely so many props to you @Cartoonshi
I’m sure this video took a TON of effort, but if you ever decide to do one of these, it’d be cool to see you talk about every Amphibia episode! Great video as always!
I always thought it was funny that Star has a ton of cool casual outfits, (which is very rare to see in cartoons) while nearly everyone else has a default look.
“You can’t give the oppressors a legitimate reason to be afraid of who they are oppressing” I think that was my problem with X men always being praised as such a good prejudice allegory, but at least they have some bigoted humans as villains, SVTFOE never properly did that
I don't agree at all with this opinion the monster racism thing. The thing that I feel needs to be understood is that not every plotpoint in fiction that has parallels to the real world, is also a direct allegory. What makes the monster/mewni situation interesting (at least when not done super bad) in my opinion IS the fact that unlike in the real world, monsters geniunenly have some issues inherent to their existence that can cause conflict and has. The fact that a lot of the people who have issues with the monsters do so for valid reasons makes it a much more interesting conflict to see. A strength of fiction is the posibility to explore stuff that could not happen or generally does not happen in the real world. The fact that in Star VS Monsters can geniunenly be problematic for a number of reasons but many of them still aren't or try not to be helps to create an interesting conflict because it means that the way the "non problematic" characters interact also has some tension. If you want to make interesting stories abiding by weird utopian rules such as "opressors can never have legitimate reasoning" is dumb. In history there have been a lot of times where oppression was used by people who had legitimate reasons at the start, and viewing how those conflicts and tensions formed is interesting and can help create some really cool stories in fiction.
Right?? Like, I don't remember black/gay/irish/any other minority waking up one day and vaporizing everyone in the city. Mutants SHOULD be kept in check. It's BAD that some people have powers.
I forgot how deeply I was into this show when I was a teenager, but seeing certain episode titles like “Booth Buddies” made me relate to war veteran flashbacks
Eclipsa: Gets betrayed my all of Muny for years because she married a monster. Mina: Tries to kill multiple races/minorities. Gets away scot free. And is not killed or even arrested. 🤨
I used to love this show. I was obsessed with it. At the time I didn't really see these problems. But man going back through this review, I loved the Battle for Mewni when it first aired but now I am seeing just how poorly paced and horribly ended it was. Imagine building up a character who everyone said could not be killed except for a very specific spell. Then Star somehow shows up out of nowhere and kills him instantly. It goes against everything they built up and every part of Toffee's character. The degradation of the animation from season 1 and season 2 wasn't something I really noticed because I was so interested in the lore and the character development. But WOW you're right. The difference between season 1 and the other seasons is night and day. Season 1 had so much personality and wasn't afraid to get weird and cartoonish. Season 2 and onward feels so sanitized. And of course, that ending. Even when I was deep in this show's lore and discussion, I still despised that ending. Easily one of the dumbest ways to end a cartoon. The implications of everything that happened from Mina going free, to killing off countless magical beings to save a small group of monsters and the gravity of what they actually did JUST TO MAKE STARCO happen should be studied for how much of a trashfire it is. Truly a disappointing way to end a series with fun characters, great action sequences and intriguing lore. At least our boy Ludo got the ending he deserved.
As awful as Season 4 is, I give it props for 2 things: 1) It was very cool to see it integrate parts of the spell book that came out in real life after Season 3 into the story. 2) Janna randomly appearing on Mewni in Season 3 was originally just a silly joke about how unpredictable and unhinged she is, and then Season 4 made it into a significant plot point. I've never seen a show recontextualize a seemingly one-off joke from an entire season ago like this, and I still consider it one of the most genius things a show has ever done.
@@eatatjoes6751it’s not stupid? The book was made to put more lore into the show. And then the show uses it. Just because not everyone has the book doesn’t mean they can’t use that content for their show
@@eatatjoes6751 It would only be stupid if the show depended on you reading the book in order for it to make sense. That's not what it did. It presented the information from the book in a way that's perfectly digestible on its own.
holy shit. I did not expect you to return to this show. Your first video about svtfoe is one of MY first videos I have watched from you. Interested to see what you have to say about this show again after all these years. (btw I have never watched this show before despite watching tons of review videos of it. Im fascinated with its downfall)
Just Stop Mr Birchum video and Cartoonshi Star Vs video on the same day?! Sign me up! I also wanted to say that it’s kinda sad that this is the only Disney show from the last 10 years to have a genuinely awful finale.
One good consistency was the voice actors. Yeah the show wasn't very good in later seasons, the actors felt like they were the characters because of their energy behind them. Side note for the video: Thanks for putting all the songs youve put into the the description, and just how long that and the editing took. It's very solid 👌
My head timeline is wild because SVTFOE ended in May of 2019, which seems so ancient, but Minecraft 1.15 released the same year in December. I love the intermissions you added to the video, it makes the narration that much more charming.
I remember watching the episodes as they aired and then eventually stopped around the end of season 2, so I decided to rewatch the entire show on Disney + more recently to see how it ended and the drop off in quality is actually so bad it kind of ruined my enjoyment of the original seasons.
same. i've been rewatching my favorite childhood/adolescent shows recently (thanks new gravity falls content lol) and star vs is the one i haven't returned to, because i fear knowing how badly it ends will sour the good memories i have of watching it as it came out.
Regarding Ludo conveniently ending up on Mewni in Ludo in the Wild: I think the implication is that the green energy that rushes past him and sends him crashing into the planet is in fact a manifestation of Toffee from within the wand, leading Ludo toward the wand to further his plans.
Man, this was a great video. And the intermission sessions were such an amzing idea I wish more ranking videos did it, especially those that cover super long running series like the simpsons
1:30:35 I believe we saw Marco's cheekmarks so we coukd make the conection for the eventual reveal of Star's family line not being the original Butterflys. Up until then we thought that it was a heradatory trait exclusive to Butterfly family member, but it turns out that every human/mewman who came in contact with the wand had them show up, so it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume that they'd become a pernament feature if one is exposed to magic for a long period of time. Also only humans and mewmans have these cheekmarks show up when using the wand, so this might have been a hint that mewmans and humans are the same species and that the first mewmans were in fact human sailors (as much as that twist ment nothing and went nowhere)
The first half wasn't that bad. The second half was trash. I wished they kept Starco dead. Dead like Kanye West's career, Dead like Krato's chances to return to Fortnite, and ten feet underground
Star vs had the potential to stick the landing, but the writers tripped and fumbled the plot hard due to focusing more on the relationship causing the show to get worse over time.
Which is funny when you consider that Star and Marco are based off of the creator and her husband. I think Tom was also based off of her real life exes as well.
Is it just me, or it feels like Seasons 3 and 4 definitely went through a few rewrites, in particular to how Marco would be handled. Think about it, in the first 2 seasons, there were several hints (plus foreshadowing) that he had some sort of connection with Toffee, plus how he was affected by the forbidden spells in that one episode. Pretty much all of that was dropped in Seasons 3 and 4, the only remnants of it being Marco's wand design, notably having the same bat wings as the "Evil" in the show's logo. I think Marco using the wand and learning Eclipsa's forbidden magic was probably where the show was heading, but for one reason or another it was dropped for one reason or another. This would explain why Marco's monster arm never came back, despite being teased as late as Season 3, as it would've tied into Marco's dropped plotline. It also explains why Marco fumbles around in relationship drama hell for the last two seasons, since his major role in the story was dropped, they had to draw out this aspect of his character as long as possible. There's a lot of wasted time in the last two seasons, probably because they had to fill time after one of their major storylines was scrapped. Also, fun fact, as stated in the real-life Book of Spells you can buy, Toffee and Eclipsa dated at one point. This fact is never mentioned in the show itself, but I think would've further tied in with Marco's dropped plotline, perhaps having Eclipsa being a mentor figure for Marco, with Toffee getting involved. Maybe Toffee still would've still been a major figure in the show in some capacity in the latter seasons, but since Marco's storyline that would've involved him was scrapped, there wasn't any further use for Toffee so they killed him off. That's all just my crackpot theory though, I'm not sure this is 100% the case but it's fun to speculate on what could've been.
This was honestly really cool to see, I've always wanted to see how you ranked the episodes and finally hearing you talk about the previous seasons was really cool. While I don't agree with everything in this video, everything was still well explained and I can see why you have your opinions. I love Svtfoe with all my heart, and when I think about it I think about season 1 with it's upbeat energy and zaniness, hell even season 2 as it was still a great season, although the animation and art style change was pretty disheartening. Loved this video, you did a great job and I hope you have a wonderful rest of your summer!
I enjoyed this a lot. This defiantly speaks wonders of good writing vs awful writing and lack of consistencies. As a writer I took a lot from this show, It shows both how to do certain things right and how to do those same things wrong just a season later. Star Vs is certainly one of the most odd shows I've seen. If you were to do another ranking I think you should review the episodes in order from worst to best instead of putting the rankings at the end of each season, it makes the whole ranking aspect feel like an after thought. However, overall this is a video respectful of your time and was very entertaining, like I said I very much enjoyed it.
Thank you for making such a fantastic video on Star vs. the Forces of Evil. Even five years after the series ended, this series has a special place in my heart; seeing you make this video really made my day. Yep, it had a bad ending, and bad writing and shipping ruined the third and fourth seasons, although they have some good episodes in those seasons. Fans have debated what went wrong on the show. I think it’s agreed that the creator, Daron Nefcy, may have just been bad at writing an ongoing story. No offense to her as a person, but I heard that this was the ending she wanted, and it’s clear that she and the writing staff just lost sight of how to write a good story for this series. Despite all that, this show has a special place in my heart. By the way, there’s one more thing I want to say: you were mad about the Marco storyline of him moving to Mewni when he could’ve just used his dimensional scissors to travel between there and Earth; honestly, I understand why you’re not a fan of that storyline, but I do believe they were setting up something and that Marco was becoming obsessed with being a hero and obsessed with adventures to the point where it was consuming his life. Marco‘s mother even talked to him about his obsession, sharing the time that she was obsessed with French culture to the point where she moved to France before she moved on, and it became clear to her that Marco was experiencing something similar to her. I believe that the episode Running with Scissors foreshadows that strolling with Marco forgetting his password, while the writing staff insists that Marco has no memories of his time in that magical dimension where he aged; I believe that his obsession with adventure started here. The writers could’ve been trying to do something with Marco being obsessed with adventures and being seen as a hero because he couldn’t handle a life without Star anymore. Immediately, though they failed to make that storyline make sense and work, I don’t believe it was something they just added for no reason. Again, please tell me what you think about what I said and if you want to answer me. If not, I understand. Thank you for your time, and thank you so much for making this video. It means a lot to me and probably means a lot to a lot of fans of the show and your fans. ❤ P.S. I heard Marco getting his high school equivalence to skip his junior and senior years was based on Nefcy doing the same thing as a teenager.
Toffee's death was the moment I learned what true disappointment felt like
Agreed, Toffee was my favorite character.
in the game of life!!
I belive the reason was because the voice actor was diagnosed with cancer and his chances of survival were slim, so they killed him off prematuraly because they thought he would not survive. Thankfully he did, but the damage was already done
This man is talking facts!
Hey is that youtuber I like commenting in a video by another youtuber I like
Don't ever ask:
A woman their age
A man his salary
A star vs fan what happened of may 19 2019
Or a GOT fan.
Not that I would know, I haven't seen the show myself. But I'm aware of the reaction.
This and the Game of Thrones ending aired the day before my birthday.
Some present.
Kane: why did you say that day?
Real
You and me both
Marco gets attacked by a horse and survives easily, Empowered Mina gets attacked by a horse and dies.
Marco is the strongest character in the series confirmed??
Wait, in this series only the racists live and the monsters die. Does that mean that Marco is secretly racist?
VS scailing be like
@@fansachik6200 globgor survive
@@MrFilgueiras. That's because he's the best
@@fansachik6200true
Eclipsa has such a good design. also the fact that she visibly wears her wedding ring is a very cute detail
Cute detail? She's cute all over.
probably the most cohesive character in the entire show.
One of the best designs imo also I loved her build up she seemed so mysterious
The only thing that's worse than watching a bad show is watching a show that was actually pretty good destroy itself until the only thing remembered by it is it's awful ass ending.
I guess but it was remembered by it other stuff too imo
Game of Thrones in a nutshell
@@DelusionalDunmer I guess in my opinion
I legitimately cannot bring myself to start GOT for this exact reason…I can’t handle another Star vs…
@@D3viant517 This is exactly the tragedy of bad endings for long, story-oriented shows.
The first couple of seasons could be great, full of 8-10/10s. But then the latter seasons are full of stinkers, themes and characters get mishandled, show's not as enjoyable, etc. All culminating in an ending that makes the payoff of everything the show was building up feel like a waste of time.
And the worst part is that it's kinda hard to separate the good and the bad in shows like this because they're connected by the plot. In SVTFOE, you can't really enjoy episodes that involve Marco and Jackie or Star and Tom because you KNOW how terribly those relationships end up. In SU, the episodes where the Gems reminisce about how much Rose meant to them and how they miss her kinda get undercut by the reveal of her being Pink Diamond, and the resulting consequences of her disguise that affects the entire show.
Those shows are still decent, without a doubt. But knowing how they degrade over seasons makes it hard to come back to them.
I have said this to someone before: the fact that the owl house managed to create an overall satisfying conclusion when it got dealt a heavy hand with 3 episodes of a season 3 to wrap EVERYTHING UP while star vs had far more episodes in its final season yet managed to fumble the bag hard by the end is a testament. The writing truly went off the rails
The fact that The Owl House was able to go off with such a great ending, in spite of the handicap for season 3, is a complete and total miracle by the grace of God.
@@ajgameguy3674 it emphasizes how screwed up the writing was for star vs.
The fact that the Ghost and Molly McGee managed to pull off a pretty decent ending despite Disney’s sordid love affair with it is a testament too.
@@eatatjoes6751 Wholeheartedly agree as well given it had a whole other season planned and disney granted them one last episode to wrap the show up in the way they wanted it to. Which is super unlike disney btw
@@eatatjoes6751 I heard that the creators had an ending already planned out just in case they were cancelled, as it was up in the air at the time (during season two) if they’d get a third season. They were initially planning for a third season (as the original season two finale was open ended), but like Disney TV do, they announced the cancellation right when season two was wrapping up, forcing the creators to use their planned ending episode sooner than expected.
What gets me about the finale was that Star literally deleted a fundamental force of the universe to save a group of people from being pushed off a cliff, killing a literally incalculable amount of people in the aftermath between her spells, the high commission, anyone in unfortunate spots when the dimensional merge happened, and literally anyone who relied on magic to live in one way or another.
It's like if someone decided to delete gravity from the universe to save a town of like, 1000 people tops.
Oh, you don't want to know what comes next😈😈😈.
@@maduemeziafrancisxavier6125 Zap to the extreme
Star already showed signs of actaully being bad when she tried to murder Gustav, and her "he's a c*nnibal" theory was a conspiracy she made up completely because she was jealous. And when she gets mewberty she literally KIDNAPS boys. Star was definitely real sus at times even before the finale
@@alimations5226 Oh sure, she's gonna suffer and trust you won't like it 😈😈.
@@finland4ever55 Why are you censoring "cannibal"?
Fun fact.
According to supplementary materials, aka, books and such, Glossaryck *created* the Magic High Commission, meaning that not only he made them violently incompetent on purpose, he also created them fully knowing that he's arranging everything for them to be erased from existence one day.
Bit rude if you ask me.
Pretty sure that guy was the villain this whole time
@logannottheonefrommarvel9917 imagine if they actually pulled the trigger on that. Mina is the bait-and-switch and Glossaryk becomes the real villain of Season 4.
Imagine having your trusted mentor figure who's been in your family's bloodline for centuries secretly be committing a self-erasure long game to wipe out all magic.
That sounds interesting, but NO! WE HAD TO DEAL WITH LAME SHIPPING FUEL AND A NOTHING BURGER OF A VILLIAN WITH CHARACTERS WHO ARE VERY INCONSISTENT THROUGHOUT!!!! ISN'T IT FUN?!?!?!
@@SecretMagician I would have loved this soooo much if this was what happened.
@@SecretMagician The showriters are cowards
The idea of a dude who arranged and created everything magic only to destroy magic years later is terrifying
You gotta love how GOT and STFOE both ended on the same day.
And both having shitty endings
All the while pissing off both fandoms!
What's got about?
@@MashupProductions22 popular fantasy TV show based on books well used to be popular but the ending killed it and the fan base
That is a wild cohinky dink.
"Am I really going to watch a 2 hour video about a 2010's cartoon I am literally incapable of caring less about?"
"OF COARSE I AM!"
holy fuck it's already 2024...
@@tslex6477 I hate the passage of time, I hate the passage of time, I hate the passage of time
@@matheussanthiago9685 Are you satisfied with your life right now?
@@matheussanthiago9685 “Reality is an illusion. The universe is a hologram. Buy gold, byeee”
@@tslex6477hell no. I wasted so much time doing random shit, this video included no offense
Man Eclipsa & Tom's Backs Must Have Been Hurting From Carrying Season 4 On Their Backs.
Janna helped too
LITERALLY
Both characters deserve to be in far better shows than this.
I actually hate her.@@robfobjanstar
@michaelstrong5383 Eclipsa, Tom, Janna, and Jackie all deserved to be in better shows than this.
Fun Fact: The reason why the animation got changed after Season 1 is because they changed the animation studio.
That studio (Mercury Filmwoks ) also animated Hilda. ( I don't know if you have watched Hilda )
He has watched Hilda and even reviwed it.
I love how cartoonshi puts in intermission breaks even though this is a youtube video and i can just pause anytime i want and come back to watching as if nothing ever happened
Yeah, and I love when he leaves kind messages in those intermissions too! Warms my heart~ ☺️
Agreed
@@pizzamlpop3452 fr
Eclipsa being first introduced as a mysterious looming villain. Then being released. Then being showed to not actually be a villain but a rather morally gray and rather sympathetic character. Then for her daughter, to be revealed to be the next villain. Then for her to be the actual heir to the throne, saving the kingdom and thus establishing her role as ruler and a good person.
Then to being completely indifferent to being the harbinger of doom by committing magical genocide along with Star and Moon, a pure act of evilness. I hate it here.
Eclipsa deserved so much better!
@@DefyReality-ll2cgshe did, but We NeEdEd StaRCooooO……
@@Galacticstarsofthegalaxy I think it’s hilarious how the show handles literally every other ship better than Starco
@@Im2lazy4thisCrit it’s almost as if the writers had no plans on how to write the story….
one thing I disliked was when the show switched from kinetic and energetic flash animation, to stiff hand drawn animation, which lessens the impacts of battles and some general visual charms being gone.
@@goobusmcdoobus2 I don't think S2 and beyond had hand drawn animation, it just looks like stiffer puppet animation. If anything, I think S1 was the only season to use hand drawn (it looks like mostly puppet animation, with hand drawn scenes used here and there for the faster scenes)
S1 was animated by Rough Draft Korea, while everything else was done by Mercury Filmworks. I think that's the actual reason why the animation took such a hit
It was HAND DRAWN!?
Season 1-2 had good animation in my bad, but after that, downhill.
Hand drawn animation is generally considered to look better than flash animation. Flash animation tends to look more cheap and simplistic.
@@11bg00 in the general animation landscape, that is true, but the implementation of hand drawn on the show caused a lot of stiffer fight scenes, general visual degradation and a lack of expressive style.
Star Vs. basically DID become the kid version of GOT! Both had great starts, was very popular, and went downhill FAST with their series finale! 💀
The fact that both finales aired on the same day is not a coincidence.
@@michaelstrong5383 and only big difference is that Star Vs. didn't become as meme worthy as GOT.
Only key difference is GoT downfall was caused by greed
Yet star vs. downfall was just disappointing (least to me)
@@kanati1133GoT's downfall was entirely because of incompetence, had DnD followed the books and introduced young griff + gives us the real Euron Greyjoy they would have made gold.
@@guerreiroazul3230 I say greed only cause iirc DnD was offered a star wars deal which they leaped immediately.
Which had them try to wrap up GoT as fast a possible to get said deal.
Only to not even get it after the poor reception of GoT, they saw dollar signs and ran for it only to have a lose-lose scenario on their hands
Autistic people (me) when my favorite youtuber (cartoonshi) posts a several hour video ranking every episode of my favorite show (I've never watched it in my life)
AUTISM LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOO
THATS FUCKIN ME, BABY
I don’t know what this show is about but I love watching rants on it
I wonder if autistic people enjoy watching video essays/rants on stories of TV shows like this one and video games like Inazuma Eleven GO: Chrono Stone, Pokemon Sword & Shield, Kingdom Hearts 3, and Pokemon Scarlet & Violet.
Reminds me of how autistic people watch video game essays/rants on the stories of various games like Kingdom Hearts 3 and Pokemon Scarlet & Violet.
Remember when Star VS. was regarded as a modern animated classic rather than the complete joke it’s seen as now??
I do, and God do I miss those days.
Yeah it’s so odd how nowadays nobody brings up star vs anymore despite it easily being the most popular Disney xd original (second most popular if u count gravity falls as an xd show) during its run and one of the most popular cartoons of the 2010s
Nobody mentions a peep about the show anymore and the fanbase is pretty much dead, it’s like the show left no impact
Yeah Ik it’s hated but so was Steven universe and that show is still talked about to this day and it still has a dedicated fanbase
In fact I’d say SU had far more hate during its later seasons than star vs season 4 ever did
Like the loud house
@@lemon5000-tj6nvit's kinda funny how the only people who are willing to defend the later seasons drop in quality are some very dedicated redditors.
@@Raddish-IS-Raddkinda but have opinions on liking them
@@lolganrox_12katsu30nichiI guess
It’s honestly crazy how this show is completely narratively, visually, and tonally different between its first and last season
I can’t believe I got invested in all 4 seasons. Even Steven Universe didn’t have payoff *this* bad.
@@eatatjoes6751 lol no
@@eatatjoes6751I honestly kinda liked Steven Universe’s finale. Star had no redeeming qualities by the end
the "halfway point of the season" was such a creative way of make the viewer take some sort of break since this video is 2 hours long
@@FuukaLover69_ Also the music was such a bop
@@darwinbowman8512 the song is "Tanaka's Amazing Commodities -Reload-" from Persona 3 Reload
Yeah that part was great and should be in more videos like these
saw this comment just as the intermission happened what the fuck
STFOE was a great show. Such a shame it never got a third season and left us on a cliff hanger 😢
Yeah real
I actually liked s3, but I gotta agree, that it was REALLY hit or miss.
Because I don't have nothing better to do, here's the final ranking with timestamps. Yes.
140. The Ponyhead Show! (S4 E6a) 1:52:57 👎 (Worst of Season 4)
139. Out of Business (S4 E7a) 1:54:42
138. Ponymonium* (S3 E11b) 1:28:31 👎 (Worst of Season 3) *Second worst in the season ranking, swapped with the next one
137. Death Peck* (S3 E11a) 1:28:09 *Worst in the season ranking, swapped with the last one
136. Doop-Doop (S4 E15a) 2:08:58
135. Heinous (S2 E19a) 1:02:24 👎 (Worst of Season 2)
134. Cleaved (S4 E21) 2:18:51
133. Pizza Thing (S2 E12b) 49:15
132. Bam Ui Pati! (S3 E19a) 1:41:30
131. Collateral Damage (S2 E20a) 1:04:05
130. Goblin Dogs (S2 E7a) 40:44
129. Sophomore Slump* (S3 E7b) 1:22:27 *In the ranking title card, it says season 2 instead of 3
128. The Knight Shift (S4 E11a) 2:03:05
127. Curse of the Blood Moon (S4 E8) 1:56:39
126. Sad Teen Hotline* (S4 E17a) 2:11:23 *Number 29 in the season ranking, lowered 2 spots here
125. Britta's Tacos (S4 E15b) 2:09:33
124. Junkin' Janna* (S4 E12a) 2:05:14 *Number 28 in the season ranking, lowered one spot here
123. Fetch (S2 E3b) 35:49
122. Swim Suit* (S4 E3b) 1:49:41 *Number 27 in the season ranking, lowered one spot here
121. Yada Yada Berries* (S4 E5a) 1:51:28 *26 in the season ranking, lowered one spot here
120. The Bogbeast of Boggabah (S3 E15a) 1:33:17
119. Down by the River* (S4 E5b) 1:52:14 *24 in the season ranking, lowered 2 spots here
118. Ready, Aim, Fire* (S4 E18b) 2:12:56 *20 in the season ranking, lowered 5 spots here
117. Pizza Party* (S4 E20a) 2:15:29 *19 in the season ranking, lowered 5 spots here
116. Scent of a Hoodie (S3 E5a) 1:18:33
115. Lint Catcher (S3 E8a) 1:24:05
114. Gift of the Card* (S2 E9b) 45:07 *33 in the season ranking, swapped with number 36
113. Trial by Squire (S3 E8b) 1:24:50
112. Red Belt* (S2 E2b) 34:25 *Number 34 in the season ranking, swapped with the next one
111. All Belts are Off* (S2 E19b) 1:03:57 *Number 35 in the season ranking, swapped with the last one
110. Surviving the Spiderbites* (S4 E6b) 1:54:00 *Number 25 in the season ranking, bumped 2 spots here, and it's season 4, not 3
109. The Banagic Incident (S1 E11b) 24:31 👎 (Worst of Season 1)
108. Cornonation* (S4 E14) 2:07:39 *Not mentioned in the final ranking, I put it at number 22 as the season ranking says
107. Trickstar* (S2 E15b) 54:54 *Number 36 in the season ranking, swapped with Gift of the Card
106. The Tavern at the End of the Multiverse (S4 E20b) 2:17:03
105. Queen-Napped* (S4 E11b) 2:04:30 *Number 31 in the season ranking, bumped 11 SPOTS here
104. Divide* (S3 E20) 1:42:18 *29 in the season ranking, swapped with the next one
103. Mathmagic* (S2 E17a) 58:36 *Not mentioned in the final ranking, would be between number 107 and 98
102. Booth Buddies* (S3 E18b) 1:40:38 *30 in the season ranking, swapped with the last one
101. Meteora's Lesson* (S4 E10b) 2:01:49 *Number 23 in the season ranking, bumped up 4 spots here
100. Stump Day (S3 E14a) 1:32:23
99. Marco Jr. (S3 E17b) 1:37:29
98. Naysaya (S2 E13b) 50:59
97. A Spell with No Name (S4 E12b) 2:06:17
96. Holiday Spellcial (S3 E14b) 1:32:56
95. Mama Star* (S4 E18a) 2:12:36 *Number 12 in the season ranking, lowered 5 spots here
94. Ghost of Butterfly Castle* (S4 E9b) 1:59:34 *Number 17 in the season ranking, bumped up one spot here
93. Jannanigans* (S4 E17b) 2:11:50 *Number 13 in the season ranking, lowered 2 spots here
92. Crystal Clear* (S2 E18a) 59:51 *Number 29 in the season ranking, swapped with number 30
91. Here to Help (S4 E19b) 2:14:19
90. Club Snubbed (S3 E6a) 1:19:40
89. Beach Day* (S4 E16a) 2:10:06 *Number 16 in the season ranking bumped 3 spots here
88. Butterfly Follies* (S4 E1) 1:46:52 *10 in the season ranking, lowered 2 spots here
80+7. Escape from the Pie Folk (S4 E2) 1:48:17
86. Gone Baby Gone* (S4 E16b) 2:10:32 *Number 15 in the season ranking, bumped up 5 spots here
85. Starfari (S3 E9b) 1:25:58
84. Star vs. Echo Creek* (S2 E4a) 36:29 *Number 30 in the season ranking, swapped with Crystal Clear
83. By the Book (S2 E7b) 41:36
82. The Battle for Mewni: Puddle Defender (S3 E3a) 1:14:01
81. Royal Pain (S1 E9b) 20:02
80. Is Another Mystery (S3 E17a) 1:37:02
79. Spider With a Top Hat* (S2 E11b) 47:52 *Number 26 in the season ranking, swapped with number 27
78. Moon Remembers (S4 E3a) 1:49:07
77. Cornball! (S4 E10a) 2:01:10
76. The Bounce Lounge* (S2 E17b) 59:35 *Number 27 in the season ranking, swapped with Spider With a Top Hat
75. Interdimensional Field Trip* (S1 E12a) 25:48 *Number 20 in the season ranking, lowered 2 spots here
74. Pixtopia* (S1 E6b) 12:46 *Number 22 in the season ranking, bumped one spot thanks to the last episode
73. A Boy and His DC-700XE (S4 E13a) 2:06:32
72. Lake House Fever* (S4 E4b) 1:50:57 *Number 5 in the season ranking, swapped with number 6
71. Is Mystery (S2 E10b) 46:28
70. Rest in Pudding (S3 E5b) 1:19:15
69 (noice). Tough Love (S3 E19b) 1:41:40
68. The Other Exchange Student* (S1 E3b) 7:18 *Number 21 in the season ranking, bumped up one spot here thanks to Interdimensional Field Trip
67. Mr. Candle Cares (S2 E2a) 33:30
66. The Right Way* (S4 E19a) 2:13:38 *Number 6 in the season ranking, swapped with Lake House Fever
65. Diaz Family Vacation (S1 E5a) 10:03
64. The Battle for Mewni: Toffee* (S3 E4) 1:15:52 *Number 18 in the season ranking, swapped with the next one
63. Stranger Danger* (S3 E6b) 1:20:32 *Number 19 in the season ranking, swapped with the last one
62. Starstruck (S2 E5a) 38:10
61. Girls' Day Out (S2 E8b) 43:29
60. Ransomgram (S4 E4a) 1:50:35
59. Just Friends (S2 E20b) 1:05:05
58. The Battle for Mewni: Book Be Gone (S3 E2a) 1:12:48
57. Kelly's World (S4 E7b) 1:55:51
56. On the Job* (S2 E6b) 40:05 *Number 16 in the season ranking, lowered 4 spots here
55. Monster Arm* (S1 E3a) 6:29 *Number 16 in the season ranking, lowered 2 spots here
54. Cheer Up, Star* (S1 E4a) 8:12 *Number 15 in the season ranking, lowered 2 spots here
53. Friendenemies* (S2 E10a) 45:49 *20 in the season ranking, bumped up one spot thanks to On the Job
52. Camping Trip* (S2 E5b) 39:07 *Number 17 in the season ranking, lowered one spot here
51. Baby* (S2 E16a) 55:58 *Number 13 in the season ranking, lowered 4 spots here
50. Starsitting* (S2 E6a) 39:32 *15 in the season ranking, lowered one spot here
49. Lava Lake Beach* (S3 E10b) 1:27:36 *Number 13 in the season ranking, lowered 3 spots here
48. Hungry Larry* (S2 E11a) 47:06 *Number 19 in the season ranking, bumped up 4 spots here
47. Mewberty* (S1 E6a) 11:49 *14 in the season ranking, lowered 2 spots here
46. Princess Turdina* (S3 E9a) 1:25:16 *11 in the season ranking, lowered 4 spots here
45. Match Maker* (S1 E2a) 4:12 *13 in the season ranking, lowered 2 spots here
44. Night Life* (S3 E12a) 1:29:27 *16 in the season ranking, bumped up 2 spots here
43. Page Turner* (S2 E13a) 49:39 *First of all, is season 2, not 1, and this episode isn´t mentioned in the final ranking, I put it at number 14 like the season ranking says, would be between number 37 and 48
42. Lobster Claws* (S1 E7a) 13:39 *Number 18 in the season ranking, bumped up 4 spots here
41. Party With a Pony* (S1 E1b) 3:25 *12 in the season ranking, lowered one spot here
40. The Battle for Mewni: Marco and the King* (S3 E2b) 1:13:25 *Number 15 in the season ranking, bumped up 2 spots here
39. Demoncism* (S3 E7a) 1:21:49 *Number 14 in the season ranking, bumped up 2 spots here
38. The Battle for Mewni: King Ludo* (S3 E3b) 1:15:21 *Number 12 in the season ranking, bumped up one spot here
37. Game of Flags* (S2 E8a) 42:55 *Number 18 in the season ranking, bumped up 5 spots here
36. Marco Grows a Beard* (S1 E12b) 26:27 *Number 17 in the season ranking, bumped up 5 spots here
35. Wand to Wand (S2 E4b) 37:11
34. Total Eclipsa the Moon (S3 E15b) 1:33:57
33. Mewnipendance Day* (S1 E11a) 22:35 *Number 9 in the season ranking, swapped with number 11 (dont say it dont say it)
32. Star on Wheels* (S2 E3a) 35:07 *Number 10 in the season ranking, swapped with the next one
31. My New Wand!* (S2 E1a) 30:43 *Number 11 in the season ranking, swapped with the last one
30. Quest Buy (S1 E4b) 8:48
29. Sleep Spells* (S1 E7b) 14:46 *Number 11 in the season ranking, swapped with Mewnipendance Day
28. Star Comes to Earth (S1 E1a) 1:59
27. Skooled!* (S3 E18a) 1:38:07 *Number 8 in the season ranking, swapped with the next one
26. The Battle for Mewni: Return to Mewni* (S3 E1a) 1:10:39 *Number 9 in the season ranking, swapped with the last one
25. The Hard Way (S2 E18b) 1:01:23
24. Raid the Cave (S2 E15a) 54:16
23. Running with Scissors (S2 E16b) 57:06
22. The Monster and the Queen (S4 E13b) 2:07:07
21. Sleepover (S2 E9a) 44:04
20. Brittney's Party (S1 E5b) 10:58
19. Fortune Cookies (S1 E8b) 17:50
18. Sweet Dreams (S3 E10a) 1:26:40
17. Deep Dive (S3 E12b) 1:30:01
16. Conquer (S3 E21) 1:43:13
15. St. Olga's Reform School for Wayward Princesses* (S1 E10) 20:59 *Number 4 in the season ranking, swapped with the next one
14. Storm the Castle* (S1 E13) 27:33 *Number 5 in the season ranking, swapped with the last one
13. Butterfly Trap (S3 E16a) 1:34:32
12. Ludo in the Wild (S2 E1b) 32:25
11. Blood Moon Ball (S1 E8a) 15:52
10. Face the Music (S2 E21) 1:05:46
9. Into the Wand (S2 E12a) 48:21
8. Freeze Day (S1 E9a) 19:03
7. Monster Bash* (S3 E13) 1:31:08 *2nd best in the season ranking, swapped with the next one
6. Ludo, Where Art Thou?* (S3 E16b) 1:35:52 *3rd best in the season ranking, swapped with the last one
5. Princess Quasar Caterpillar and the Magic Bell* (S4 E9a) 1:58:08 👍 (Best of Season 4) *It´s season 4, not 3
4. The Battle for Mewni: Moon the Undauted (S3 E1b) 1:11:36 👍 (Best of Season 3)
3. School Spirit (S1 E2b) 5:12 👍 (Best of Season 1)
2. Bon Bon the Birthday Clown (S2 E14) 52:27
1. Starcrushed (S2 E22) 1:07:26 👍 (Best of Season 2, no shit Sherlock)
REAL RANKINGS OF EACH SEASON:
Season 1
24. The Banagic Incident (S1 E11b)
23. Royal Pain (S1 E9b)
22. Interdimensional Field Trip (S1 E12a)
21. Pixtopia (S1 E6b)
20. The Other Exchange Student (S1 E3b)
19. Diaz Family Vacation (S1 E5a)
18. Monster Arm (S1 E3a)
17. Cheer Up, Star (S1 E4a)
16. Mewberty (S1 E6a)
15. Match Maker (S1 E2a)
14. Lobster Claws (S1 E7a)
13. Party With a Pony (S1 E1b)
12. Marco Grows a Beard (S1 E12b)
11. Mewnipendance Day (S1 E11a)
10. Quest Buy (S1 E4b)
9. Sleep Spells (S1 E7b)
8. Star Comes to Earth (S1 E1a)
7. Brittney's Party (S1 E5b)
6. Fortune Cookies (S1 E8b)
5. St. Olga's Reform School for Wayward Princesses (S1 E10)
4. Storm the Castle (S1 E13)
3. Blood Moon Ball (S1 E8a)
2. Freeze Day (S1 E9a)
1. School Spirit (S1 E2b)
Season 2
41. Heinous (S2 E19a)
40. Pizza Thing (S2 E12b)
39. Collateral Damage (S2 E20a)
38. Goblin Dogs (S2 E7a)
37. Fetch (S2 E3b)
36. Gift of the Card (S2 E9b)
35. Red Belt (S2 E2b)
34. All Belts are Off (S2 E19b)
33. Trickstar (S2 E15b)
32. Mathmagic (S2 E17a)
31. Naysaya (S2 E13b)
30. Crystal Clear (S2 E18a)
29. Star vs. Echo Creek (S2 E4a)
28. By the Book (S2 E7b)
27. Spider With a Top Hat (S2 E11b)
26. The Bounce Lounge (S2 E17b)
25. Is Mystery (S2 E10b)
24. Mr. Candle Cares (S2 E2a)
23. Starstruck (S2 E5a)
22. Girls' Day Out (S2 E8b)
21. Just Friends (S2 E20b)
20. On the Job (S2 E6b)
19. Friendenemies (S2 E10a)
18. Camping Trip (S2 E5b)
17. Baby (S2 E16a)
16. Starsitting (S2 E6a)
15. Hungry Larry (S2 E11a)
14. Page Turner (S2 E13a)
13. Game of Flags (S2 E8a)
12. Wand to Wand (S2 E4b)
11. Star on Wheels (S2 E3a)
10. My New Wand! (S2 E1a)
9. The Hard Way (S2 E18b)
8. Raid the Cave (S2 E15a)
7. Running with Scissors (S2 E16b)
6. Sleepover (S2 E9a)
5. Ludo in the Wild (S2 E1b)
4. Face the Music (S2 E21)
3. Into the Wand (S2 E12a)
2. Bon Bon the Birthday Clown (S2 E14)
1. Starcrushed (S2 E22)
Season 3
38. Ponymonium (S3 E11b)
37. Death Peck (S3 E11a)
36. Bam Ui Pati! (S3 E19a)
35. Sophomore Slump (S3 E7b)
34. The Bogbeast of Boggabah (S3 E15a)
33. Scent of a Hoodie (S3 E5a)
32. Lint Catcher (S3 E8a)
31. Trial by Squire (S3 E8b)
30. Divide (S3 E20)
29. Booth Buddies (S3 E18b)
28. Stump Day (S3 E14a)
27. Marco Jr. (S3 E17b)
26. Holiday Spellcial (S3 E14b)
25. Club Snubbed (S3 E6a)
24. Starfari (S3 E9b)
23. The Battle for Mewni: Puddle Defender (S3 E3a)
22. Is Another Mystery (S3 E17a)
21. Rest in Pudding (S3 E5b)
20. Tough Love (S3 E19b)
19. The Battle for Mewni: Toffee (S3 E4)
18. Stranger Danger (S3 E6b)
17. The Battle for Mewni: Book Be Gone (S3 E2a)
16. Lava Lake Beach (S3 E10b)
15. Princess Turdina (S3 E9a)
14. Night Life (S3 E12a)
13. The Battle for Mewni: Marco and the King (S3 E2b)
12. Demoncism (S3 E7a)
11. The Battle for Mewni: King Ludo (S3 E3b)
10. Total Eclipsa the Moon (S3 E15b)
9. Skooled! (S3 E18a)
8. The Battle for Mewni: Return to Mewni (S3 E1a)
7. Sweet Dreams (S3 E10a)
6. Deep Dive (S3 E12b)
5. Conquer (S3 E21)
4. Butterfly Trap (S3 E16a)
3. Monster Bash (S3 E13)
2. Ludo, Where Art Thou? (S3 E16b)
1. The Battle for Mewni: Moon the Undauted (S3 E1b)
Season 4
37. The Ponyhead Show! (S4 E6a)
36. Out of Business (S4 E7a)
35. Doop-Doop (S4 E15a)
34. Cleaved (S4 E21)
33. The Knight Shift (S4 E11a)
32. Curse of the Blood Moon (S4 E8)
31. Sad Teen Hotline (S4 E17a)
30. Britta's Tacos (S4 E15b)
29. Junkin' Janna (S4 E12a)
28. Swim Suit (S4 E3b)
27. Yada Yada Berries (S4 E5a)
26. Down by the River (S4 E5b)
25. Ready, Aim, Fire (S4 E18b)
24. Pizza Party (S4 E20a)
23. Surviving the Spiderbites (S4 E6b)
22. Cornonation (S4 E14)
21. The Tavern at the End of the Multiverse (S4 E20b)
20. Queen-Napped (S4 E11b)
19. Meteora's Lesson (S4 E10b)
18. A Spell with No Name (S4 E12b)
17. Mama Star (S4 E18a)
16. Ghost of Butterfly Castle (S4 E9b)
15. Jannanigans (S4 E17b)
14. Here to Help (S4 E19b)
13. Beach Day (S4 E16a)
12. Butterfly Follies (S4 E1)
11. Escape from the Pie Folk (S4 E2)
10. Gone Baby Gone (S4 E16b)
9. Moon Remembers (S4 E3a)
8. Cornball! (S4 E10a)
7. A Boy and His DC-700XE (S4 E13a)
6. Lake House Fever (S4 E4b)
5. The Right Way (S4 E19a)
4. Ransomgram (S4 E4a)
3. Kelly's World (S4 E7b)
2. The Monster and the Queen (S4 E13b)
1. Princess Quasar Caterpillar and the Magic Bell (S4 E9a)
SEASONS RANKED BY AVERAGE (RANKING AND GRADE AVERAGE)
4. Season 4: 98’27, 4’59/10
3. Season 3: 68’05, 5’86/10
2. Season 2: 64’54, 6’16/10
1. Season 1: 41’75, 7’08/10
Impressive effort with writing ALL THIS! How long did it take you to write it?
@@SecretMagician about 2 days
Awesome
This show exemplifies how writers can undermine their own story by focusing excessively on pleasing fans. It seems that Star and Marco were not initially intended to be a couple, but due to strong fan demand, the writers felt compelled to pair them. This decision led to Star and Marco getting their own storyline, while other characters were relegated to the main plotline. Another instance of forced fanservice is evident with the character Hekapoo. Originally, Rhombulus was meant to be the standout good member of the MHC, but Hekapoo's popularity, driven by her design and her potential pairing with Marco, pushed her into that role. This shift resulted in inconsistent character roles for both Hekapoo and Rhombulus.
That also explains the stupid twist...
I don’t think you got it right. Blood moon ball was THE episode when it became clear that Star and Marco will be endgame. This is a point in the story, from which their relationship gained romantic context. Not because of fans, but because of writers. And it’s even more evident, considering that Daron Nefcy made Marco look like her husband
The creator stated that Star and Marco's relationship was based on her and her husband's so I think it was.
I remember Daron Nefcy saying that Marco was based on her husband, so it was always going to be endgame, and so when the plot started to give signs it could be better if they weren't, the writers had to find a way to make it back to the rails, at the cost of everything else
The problem was that they never gave any single plot point or character development the time and continuity it needed. I feel the entire reason for the relationships in this show was to portray how these things can be messy and confusing. Things and feelings can change and what was love could turn into nothing. The grand issue was that like basically every thing in the show (Monsters-Mewmans, magic, Metora, Eclipsa) it was essentially shoved into a closet until whatever episode was designated the "romance" episode.
Take the Marco Jackie breakup. If that was built up over the season as Marco gradually realises his feelings of Star and Mewni and we see how the relationship starts to degrade. Then it would've been fine, because we see how over time he starts to care more about Star and Jackie realizes that the relationship isn't working. However, all of this was essentially shoved into a 11 minute episode and never any more.
This show's finale was when god left.
God abandoned us when Season 4 was announced.
😂👌😂😂🤣🤣🤣👌 me when reboots happen.
@@TheDigitalApple god left us to get the milk a long time ago
MANKIND IS A FAILURE.
FREE WILL IS A FLAW.
LET THE EVIL OF THEIR OWN LIPS CONSUME
THEM.
THEN I SHALL BEGIN AGAIN, WITH MY WORD
AS LAW.
Nice pfp 😳
The Cartoonshi healing arc has reached its finale. Thanks for all the hard work you’ve been through for our entertainment man. So lucky and happy to be one of your subscribers.
Like the wise words of Blue Order "A show's finale is what leaves the lasting impact."
This makes me happy that Amphibia, The Owl House and The Ghost and Molly Mcgee had great endings in my opinion.
That why I don't like those shows
Bro is confronting his fears
The first season was goated. I really wish they stuck with the bouncy animation, it’s what gave it its charm. Otherwise I feel it fell into decline and I still kinda hate that it ended the way it did to this day.
Star vs is a case of switching animation studios which in this case the studio that animated season 1 (Mercury filmworks, mostly known for Hilda) was changed for what i believe is disney's south korean animation studio SugarCube, and THAT team was switched for Rough Draft Studios (well known for Drawn Toghether).
I still can’t believe the Star finale aired on the exact same date as the Game of Thrones finale
It's as if God himself simply declared "Yes. That one. This day in particular is the day of shitty TV show endings."
That should be in the history books
Me neither, I actually didn’t believe it for the first time and thought it was a joke. One hell of a coincidence.
This is IMO probably one of the best paced ranking videos of them all. Fantastic job.
Star vs. finale (and GOT finale) was the weirdest gift for my 17th birthday
I feel so sorry for you
Worst birthday present ever. You have my condolences.
Came out on my birthday too🫠
locked in immediately when i saw it was 2 hours and 35 minutes
Same 😭
Me too, watched it all in one sitting
@@lifeisadrag7705 same
@@lifeisadrag7705 blud did not listen to Cartoonshi's halfway break instructions
I learned a valuable lesson today. Lumpy Space Princess is everything Ponyhead wishes she could be
Holy crud. I never realized that Ponyhead is just LSP but somehow even worse.
Ponyhead is Dollar General LSP
LSP can be just as annoying sometimes, but goddamnit she was at least funny. I can't unhear, "These lumps"
LSP is objectively a bad person, but who cares when she’s hilarious?
Of all things, Ludo was definitely my favorite aspect of season 2. I'm a sucker for character arcs where a character develops from being a pathetic joke villain to being a competent threat through their own hard work. It's like an underdog story, something you more frequently see with heroes than villains. Seeing a once pathetic villain actually manage to find success and competence of course makes you worried for the hero, but it's also this weird sense of pride like "yeah, good job! You've earned this!" It makes me weirdly root for the villains in some cases. And Ludo is one of my favorite examples of this, at least in season 2.
Killer Moth needs this
Ludo was one of the very few characters to luckily survive the character assassination of season 4 and actually have a satisfying character arc.
Long Cartoonshi video? On my birthday as well!? Definitely a good birthday.
EDIT: I appreciate the birthday wishes all of you hope you have great weeks :D
YO HAPPY BIRTHDAY
Happy Birthday my guy
HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!
happy b-day g
Happy Birthday!
Can’t believe it was 5 years ago. I remember tuning in to watch the finale the day it came out. Along with that Blue Order video
Same. Watching the show has season 3 and 4 aired was like a fever dream
2 and a half hour Cartoonshi video?!!?!
YIPPIE!!!!!!!
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@@heckarockstick802 thank you :DD
Cartoonshi brings the multi hour mega video
Today is a good day
So much Promise, but there is an old saying: Keep your expectations low and You will never be disappointed.
Remindes me of hazbin hotel, so much promise and cool ideas for such little execution. Edit: this isn't me saying that the show is horrible, its just very lackluster.
Wasn't that phrase in no way home?
@@lylelylecrocodile2538 yeah
My expectations were low for the finale after the dumpster fire of season four, and I wasn't disappointed, I was mad.
I prefer don't have any expectations at all, that's why I enjoyed Marvel Studios' Multiverse Saga, despite many pseudo fans says the opposite
One problem I have with the series is the confusion (and occasionally negative continuity) in regards to various species. For example:
-Demons and monsters are apparently two different things, since demons are trusted by the royal family, and thanks to The Magic Book of Spells, we know that Celena the Shy was half-demon.
-River does not know what a toilet is, so it's implied that mewmans and humans are biologically different, yet later in the series, mewmans are established to have been the descendants of humans, and also, a toilet shows up in Mewni later on.
-Non-human/mewman characters like Ponyhead, Rich Pigeon, and the Magical High Commission aren't considered monsters. So what are they?
-Do all mewmans go through mewberty, or just the royal family? Also, why does only the royal family have cheek marks?
Edit: Star acknowledges the third point in S3E9, but it's never touched on again, and Moon, being flanderized into a racist asshole, ignores everything Star said.
I could give a theoretical answer for the toilet thing.
Star and her father were more amazed that ‘earth toilets’ flushed and assumed it was magic. Since Mewni is more medieval, but the mewmans (descendants of humans) needed to use the restroom, their ‘toilets’ are more like loos or outhouses; there’s no flushing, it either goes in a sewage hole and/or is cleaned out by sewage men to be despots of (or they use chamber pots and dump it themselves). Ie, Mewni has no proper indoor plumbing and used 18th century (at the latest) forms of toilets.
i'm assuming just the royal family goes through mewberty since they're the only ones with magic. only they have cheek marks because they are a sign of magic. no one else has magic
Biologically, they are all monsters (the solarean blades affected them), but some of the species had better relations with mewmans than others, so socially, they weren’t regarded as monsters. The butterflies have cheek marks because they had greater exposure to magic than other mewmans, because of glossrick giving their ancestor the wand. You can notice that their babies are born with cheek marks, which I assume is because their mothers being exposed to magic affected them when they were in the womb.
A two and a half hour ranking video of a show I know nothing about? I know how I'm spending my afternoon :)
I do have to say i appreciate cartoonshi adding intermission breaks inbetween the segments as someone who struggles keeping track of time or just clicking off its nice being reminded to take a break for a while go eat something or breath and process and then come back its nice
There’s something poetic about Star Vs. and Game of Thrones ending on the same day…
And both being amazingly shitty, but for entirely different reasons, it's amazing really
It should be in the history books
Christ, Wasn’t expecting something this big! Can’t wait to hear you vent about how good it used to be more than the hate!
Sweet your back this time with a longer video
This couldn’t have been a better timed video! I just rewatched the entire series and seeing it all over again made me feel that frustration of the finale and all it represented all over again :/
love the intermissions, one of the best quality episodes lately
Can I just say how much I appreciate your act breaks between seasons. No one else does that and I wish they would. Genuinely so many props to you @Cartoonshi
Do you think the crew of Amphibia and the Owl House looked at Star Vs and tried not to make the same mistakes with their finales?
Failure can be a teacher
23:19
“Oppression is cringe”
- Cartoonshi, 2024
I read this as “Oppenheimer is cringe” for some reason.
@@jerrythemike3584 😂😂😂
@@jerrythemike3584 LMAO
2:18:50 Using Sonic 06’s Solaris Phase 2 Music is a nice touch as a tone to tear down one of most infamous finale in any children’s cartoon.
I’m sure this video took a TON of effort, but if you ever decide to do one of these, it’d be cool to see you talk about every Amphibia episode! Great video as always!
I always thought it was funny that Star has a ton of cool casual outfits, (which is very rare to see in cartoons) while nearly everyone else has a default look.
There's other shows with that, also I know a cosplayer who made 5 of her 6 main outfits
“You can’t give the oppressors a legitimate reason to be afraid of who they are oppressing”
I think that was my problem with X men always being praised as such a good prejudice allegory, but at least they have some bigoted humans as villains, SVTFOE never properly did that
I don't agree at all with this opinion the monster racism thing. The thing that I feel needs to be understood is that not every plotpoint in fiction that has parallels to the real world, is also a direct allegory. What makes the monster/mewni situation interesting (at least when not done super bad) in my opinion IS the fact that unlike in the real world, monsters geniunenly have some issues inherent to their existence that can cause conflict and has. The fact that a lot of the people who have issues with the monsters do so for valid reasons makes it a much more interesting conflict to see. A strength of fiction is the posibility to explore stuff that could not happen or generally does not happen in the real world. The fact that in Star VS Monsters can geniunenly be problematic for a number of reasons but many of them still aren't or try not to be helps to create an interesting conflict because it means that the way the "non problematic" characters interact also has some tension.
If you want to make interesting stories abiding by weird utopian rules such as "opressors can never have legitimate reasoning" is dumb. In history there have been a lot of times where oppression was used by people who had legitimate reasons at the start, and viewing how those conflicts and tensions formed is interesting and can help create some really cool stories in fiction.
@@elsienova4269 In real life, racism and prejudice is stupid and pointless
Right?? Like, I don't remember black/gay/irish/any other minority waking up one day and vaporizing everyone in the city. Mutants SHOULD be kept in check. It's BAD that some people have powers.
@@KaminoKatie ok lol
I forgot how deeply I was into this show when I was a teenager, but seeing certain episode titles like “Booth Buddies” made me relate to war veteran flashbacks
Eclipsa: Gets betrayed my all of Muny for years because she married a monster.
Mina: Tries to kill multiple races/minorities. Gets away scot free. And is not killed or even arrested.
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except for that monster girl who tried to kill her and the fact that she has to be watching her back 24/7
The LS Mark comparison is real
Can we get much higher?
THE CARTOON REVIEWER
THE CARTOON REVIEWER IS REAL!
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I really love how you put breaks between seasonal ranking. It's very nuanced for these ranking videos to allow a perfect place to pause.
I love that the final few episodes were reviewed (almost verbatim) to your original Star VS video. Nice homage to the classic start of the channel.
I used to love this show. I was obsessed with it. At the time I didn't really see these problems. But man going back through this review, I loved the Battle for Mewni when it first aired but now I am seeing just how poorly paced and horribly ended it was. Imagine building up a character who everyone said could not be killed except for a very specific spell. Then Star somehow shows up out of nowhere and kills him instantly. It goes against everything they built up and every part of Toffee's character.
The degradation of the animation from season 1 and season 2 wasn't something I really noticed because I was so interested in the lore and the character development. But WOW you're right. The difference between season 1 and the other seasons is night and day. Season 1 had so much personality and wasn't afraid to get weird and cartoonish. Season 2 and onward feels so sanitized.
And of course, that ending. Even when I was deep in this show's lore and discussion, I still despised that ending. Easily one of the dumbest ways to end a cartoon. The implications of everything that happened from Mina going free, to killing off countless magical beings to save a small group of monsters and the gravity of what they actually did JUST TO MAKE STARCO happen should be studied for how much of a trashfire it is. Truly a disappointing way to end a series with fun characters, great action sequences and intriguing lore.
At least our boy Ludo got the ending he deserved.
Cartoonshi with another vid, now thats how you start a day right ✅️
As awful as Season 4 is, I give it props for 2 things:
1) It was very cool to see it integrate parts of the spell book that came out in real life after Season 3 into the story.
2) Janna randomly appearing on Mewni in Season 3 was originally just a silly joke about how unpredictable and unhinged she is, and then Season 4 made it into a significant plot point. I've never seen a show recontextualize a seemingly one-off joke from an entire season ago like this, and I still consider it one of the most genius things a show has ever done.
1) that was actually stupid, because not everyone had the book
2) wow.
@@eatatjoes6751it’s not stupid? The book was made to put more lore into the show. And then the show uses it. Just because not everyone has the book doesn’t mean they can’t use that content for their show
@@eatatjoes6751 It would only be stupid if the show depended on you reading the book in order for it to make sense. That's not what it did. It presented the information from the book in a way that's perfectly digestible on its own.
Adventure Time does that a lot (recontextualising jokes as serious plot points). once they turned an animation error into a plot point
@@thetreyceratops They gave Ice King magic dementia. That was so messed up. I love Adventure Time
I still find it funny how Star's strongest spell, 'Spider with a Top Hat,' was only useful once, and all the other times he was used, he failed.
holy shit. I did not expect you to return to this show. Your first video about svtfoe is one of MY first videos I have watched from you. Interested to see what you have to say about this show again after all these years. (btw I have never watched this show before despite watching tons of review videos of it. Im fascinated with its downfall)
Alternative title: watch cartoonshi torture himself
The ending………that goddam ending
Hmm... I wonder what his reaction will be when he ranks Wander Over Yonder episodes.
@@Loner098 I was disappointed by Wander’s ending
@@Artkatie From happiness to depression
Just Stop Mr Birchum video and Cartoonshi Star Vs video on the same day?!
Sign me up!
I also wanted to say that it’s kinda sad that this is the only Disney show from the last 10 years to have a genuinely awful finale.
One good consistency was the voice actors.
Yeah the show wasn't very good in later seasons, the actors felt like they were the characters because of their energy behind them.
Side note for the video:
Thanks for putting all the songs youve put into the the description, and just how long that and the editing took. It's very solid 👌
1:52:58 one of my favorite parts of this whole review, I love it and the video itself a ton
Not too shabby my man, can't wait for more ranking videos.
My head timeline is wild because SVTFOE ended in May of 2019, which seems so ancient, but Minecraft 1.15 released the same year in December.
I love the intermissions you added to the video, it makes the narration that much more charming.
cartoonshi putting a "not like us" reference in a star vs video wasn't what i was expecting. a suprise to be sure, but a welcome one
Halfway through this marathon and this is a great deep dive in to this show. Great job dude!
I remember watching the episodes as they aired and then eventually stopped around the end of season 2, so I decided to rewatch the entire show on Disney + more recently to see how it ended and the drop off in quality is actually so bad it kind of ruined my enjoyment of the original seasons.
same. i've been rewatching my favorite childhood/adolescent shows recently (thanks new gravity falls content lol) and star vs is the one i haven't returned to, because i fear knowing how badly it ends will sour the good memories i have of watching it as it came out.
Every time I try to remember what happened in season 4, it feels like a fever dream.
It does.
2 and a half hours on a cartoon you've already talked about repeatedly? thank you for your service, bruv 🖖
I literally just finished rewatching this show perfect timing
Genuinely appreciated the intermissions. It allowed me to read some comments, make a sandwich, and refill my drink. Great video brother!
The animation quality dip at the halfway point of season 01 is kinda wild.
Just something i noticed as i watch the video
Move over responsibilities! I got a 2 and half hour cartoonshi video to enjoy!
Season 4 is proof we humans do not deserve Gods light.
I don't think it's that serious to say about season four but yeah it's not that good, but just decent imo
So real, wish they did better
@@JazzyTheGreat28 nah but cool pfp
@@ivoneo2806 what 💀
@@JazzyTheGreat28 I said cool pfp ,?
Your videos continue being a delight to watch, I watched the full ranking and loved the retrospective, really entertaining stuff
Regarding Ludo conveniently ending up on Mewni in Ludo in the Wild: I think the implication is that the green energy that rushes past him and sends him crashing into the planet is in fact a manifestation of Toffee from within the wand, leading Ludo toward the wand to further his plans.
Man, this was a great video. And the intermission sessions were such an amzing idea I wish more ranking videos did it, especially those that cover super long running series like the simpsons
1:30:35 I believe we saw Marco's cheekmarks so we coukd make the conection for the eventual reveal of Star's family line not being the original Butterflys. Up until then we thought that it was a heradatory trait exclusive to Butterfly family member, but it turns out that every human/mewman who came in contact with the wand had them show up, so it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume that they'd become a pernament feature if one is exposed to magic for a long period of time.
Also only humans and mewmans have these cheekmarks show up when using the wand, so this might have been a hint that mewmans and humans are the same species and that the first mewmans were in fact human sailors (as much as that twist ment nothing and went nowhere)
Ngl, this was a very nice video to have in the background while drawing. Thanks for the awesome content as always toonshi! :))
honestly the 4th season and ESPECIALLY the finale of Star Vs. had every right to get shitted on.
The first half wasn't that bad. The second half was trash. I wished they kept Starco dead. Dead like Kanye West's career, Dead like Krato's chances to return to Fortnite, and ten feet underground
May 19th is basically 9/11 for both Svtfoe fans and Game of Thrones fans.
Although it was the second coming of Christ for Shrek fans
Or for Godzilla fans with the release of Godzilla: King of The Monsters
To someone who really like this ranking videos I think you did a really great job explaining your thoughs. I'll be happy to see more in the future :)
For your first ranking video, this was really good. Wouldn't mind if you did another one.
Star vs had the potential to stick the landing, but the writers tripped and fumbled the plot hard due to focusing more on the relationship causing the show to get worse over time.
This show made me hate shipping.
Which is funny when you consider that Star and Marco are based off of the creator and her husband. I think Tom was also based off of her real life exes as well.
The half-season breaks are really nice, and thank you for the kind words
w vid, brought back some memories. thanks for always posting, I really enjoy your content. hope you keep making stuff like this.
Can’t wait to hear the pure agony and anger when season 3/4 comes up.
LETS GO 2+ HOUR CARTOONSHI VID‼‼‼‼‼‼‼‼
Is it just me, or it feels like Seasons 3 and 4 definitely went through a few rewrites, in particular to how Marco would be handled. Think about it, in the first 2 seasons, there were several hints (plus foreshadowing) that he had some sort of connection with Toffee, plus how he was affected by the forbidden spells in that one episode. Pretty much all of that was dropped in Seasons 3 and 4, the only remnants of it being Marco's wand design, notably having the same bat wings as the "Evil" in the show's logo.
I think Marco using the wand and learning Eclipsa's forbidden magic was probably where the show was heading, but for one reason or another it was dropped for one reason or another. This would explain why Marco's monster arm never came back, despite being teased as late as Season 3, as it would've tied into Marco's dropped plotline. It also explains why Marco fumbles around in relationship drama hell for the last two seasons, since his major role in the story was dropped, they had to draw out this aspect of his character as long as possible. There's a lot of wasted time in the last two seasons, probably because they had to fill time after one of their major storylines was scrapped.
Also, fun fact, as stated in the real-life Book of Spells you can buy, Toffee and Eclipsa dated at one point. This fact is never mentioned in the show itself, but I think would've further tied in with Marco's dropped plotline, perhaps having Eclipsa being a mentor figure for Marco, with Toffee getting involved. Maybe Toffee still would've still been a major figure in the show in some capacity in the latter seasons, but since Marco's storyline that would've involved him was scrapped, there wasn't any further use for Toffee so they killed him off.
That's all just my crackpot theory though, I'm not sure this is 100% the case but it's fun to speculate on what could've been.
I think marco fighting the corruption would make sense
At least
This was honestly really cool to see, I've always wanted to see how you ranked the episodes and finally hearing you talk about the previous seasons was really cool. While I don't agree with everything in this video, everything was still well explained and I can see why you have your opinions. I love Svtfoe with all my heart, and when I think about it I think about season 1 with it's upbeat energy and zaniness, hell even season 2 as it was still a great season, although the animation and art style change was pretty disheartening. Loved this video, you did a great job and I hope you have a wonderful rest of your summer!
I enjoyed this a lot. This defiantly speaks wonders of good writing vs awful writing and lack of consistencies. As a writer I took a lot from this show, It shows both how to do certain things right and how to do those same things wrong just a season later. Star Vs is certainly one of the most odd shows I've seen. If you were to do another ranking I think you should review the episodes in order from worst to best instead of putting the rankings at the end of each season, it makes the whole ranking aspect feel like an after thought. However, overall this is a video respectful of your time and was very entertaining, like I said I very much enjoyed it.
To be fair, River IS a legitimate prince of another House, the Johannsens. Hence Star still being a princess...
Aka Cartoonshi flexes his music playlist for 2 hours
Thank you for making such a fantastic video on Star vs. the Forces of Evil. Even five years after the series ended, this series has a special place in my heart; seeing you make this video really made my day. Yep, it had a bad ending, and bad writing and shipping ruined the third and fourth seasons, although they have some good episodes in those seasons. Fans have debated what went wrong on the show. I think it’s agreed that the creator, Daron Nefcy, may have just been bad at writing an ongoing story. No offense to her as a person, but I heard that this was the ending she wanted, and it’s clear that she and the writing staff just lost sight of how to write a good story for this series. Despite all that, this show has a special place in my heart.
By the way, there’s one more thing I want to say: you were mad about the Marco storyline of him moving to Mewni when he could’ve just used his dimensional scissors to travel between there and Earth; honestly, I understand why you’re not a fan of that storyline, but I do believe they were setting up something and that Marco was becoming obsessed with being a hero and obsessed with adventures to the point where it was consuming his life. Marco‘s mother even talked to him about his obsession, sharing the time that she was obsessed with French culture to the point where she moved to France before she moved on, and it became clear to her that Marco was experiencing something similar to her. I believe that the episode Running with Scissors foreshadows that strolling with Marco forgetting his password, while the writing staff insists that Marco has no memories of his time in that magical dimension where he aged; I believe that his obsession with adventure started here. The writers could’ve been trying to do something with Marco being obsessed with adventures and being seen as a hero because he couldn’t handle a life without Star anymore. Immediately, though they failed to make that storyline make sense and work, I don’t believe it was something they just added for no reason.
Again, please tell me what you think about what I said and if you want to answer me. If not, I understand. Thank you for your time, and thank you so much for making this video. It means a lot to me and probably means a lot to a lot of fans of the show and your fans. ❤
P.S. I heard Marco getting his high school equivalence to skip his junior and senior years was based on Nefcy doing the same thing as a teenager.