2021 Triumph Speed Twin | The BEST Performance Retro?? 🤔
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Triumph Speed Twin is a bike I loved when I rode it last year but for 2021 it's been updated. New engine internals, new suspension and upgraded brakes but what does it ride like? Join me to find out 😎
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Absolutely love the new bike reviewed they have done a great job in the update....
Great looking bike,great start to a Sunday morning.great video Chops.
Thanks Barry, only way to start the day 😁
Another solid review chops you definitely stand out above the others when reviewing a bike. Lovely bike and I'll be interested in your R9T review as I rode one some years ago and loved it.
Another most enjoyable review, thanks Chops. 👍👍👍🇬🇧
Another great review Chops... Speed Twin is a great looking bike, but don't like the exhaust tips now I liked the old all in one brushed chrome look.
Nice vid!
Wish you'd try the R1250R. The South African boys at Bike show thought highly of it, except the looks : )
Alright chops, sorry for asking this unrelated question on this video but, I've been going through all your old supermoto video and I am loving getting to watch those bikes being built again, in one of your videos you said if you could only have a one bike garage it would be a supermoto. I'm just wondering if this is still the case? I'm in two minds of selling my gsxr 750 and heading down this route 😂
Well it's a good question and what I have learned is yes! But it really depends what your mates are riding.. get a few people on SM's and it's an absolute hoot! It's no fun however riding an SM with mates on litre bikes 😫
@@LambChopRides that's the thing... Most of my mates have sold up... I did think of converting it to a track bike but I don't wanna wreck it as its pretty clean.. Then I thought a SM would be a good idea. I don't know 😔 haha
You are heavier than average and the bike was probably sitting with a good bit of rearward bias. You could of done with upping the rear preload two or three notches, it would of shortened the trail and sharpened up the steering. - oh, you just mentioned that, I bet there was a toolkit under the seat! My CB1100 was the same, two notches on the rear totally transformed the steering. Great review as always.
Yes indeed Terry, the rear was setup soft and I think your right it would have helped for a quicker turn in 👍
@@LambChopRides not setup soft Chopsy, preload is not affecting the harshness or softness of those shocks, merely compensating for your weight and getting them in a reasonable place in their stroke. 80kg rider and 120kg rider one with lower and one with higher preload can have the shock in exactly the same place in their stroke. Preload is just concerned with adjusting for useable travel for any given weight. If you can stomach my admittedly long winded vid check this out. ua-cam.com/video/hx6ExYqls9E/v-deo.html
These bikes are at the top of my want list!! Triumph had much better paint jobs on the gas tank for the previous generation though.... these new ones are way too plain for such a beautiful bike. Still love the look though, and the performance seems to be top notch.
I just finished watching both your videos, this one and your review of the RnineT. I am getting what you mean buy this bike being more about the ride and less about the bike.
I have ridden the RnineT. That being the best bike I have ever tied.
This one just looks beautiful. Do you think the seat will become softer after living with it for a while?
The perfect retro in my opinion. Appreciating the amount of work that you must be putting into each video, with all those cameras on the go. Just in a different league.
Thanks Alastair, I appreciate that you appreciate it 😁👍 I love to see the suspension etc working
@@LambChopRides it hurts my head just imagining you scrolling through ALL that 360 footage. It’s got to be so time consuming. But I suspect you’ve got a “system” now, after doing it for a while now.
Unfortunately some folk’s use of 360 cameras actually reduces the quality of their videos. No names, but I’m sure you know what I mean.
Did you see the Kawasaki Z900 RS lately??
Thanks Chopsie. My first bike was a 1972 Triumph Trophy 500 so this one really tugs at my heart strings. Great review.
Honda missed a trick with their CB1100, great review
Thruxton is more money but 2x the bike and styling IMO,
Also CB11000R 143 H/P albeit a bit more of a modern retro and Z900RS 110 H/P should not be overlooked as well
I'll be a bit surprised if Honda don't remake the cb1100 but using the Africa Twin engine instead of the air cooled in line 4
For me (as I get older,now 61)...this bike 'answers' most of my wishes....a Triumph,which actually has a reasonable amount of power/road usability....address one or two issues ( the seat comfort and those cheap shocks,....maybe a better paint job...or an earlier tank !)...and it should be the bike that fits my needs ( I have many,some of which will be sold to pay for it !)......as for the welded exhausts..I may get a set of downpipes from the previous model,which seem like they fit then newer bike (?)...and a decat crossover pipe....also maybe the earlier model Vance & Hines silencers.......will see......mine is on order ( paid deposit
December 2nd '21.....delivery due...May '22 !....a bit ridiculous really ).....but it does give me time to accumulate all the extra bits I want !.....ROLL ON SUMMER !...
I have a 2022 Speedmaster and I love it.
Though may one day get a second Triumph. I just can't get over the build quality.
As I race towards 60
One of these with a TTS supercharger starts to be appealing...
Just not Yet
Love my speed twin, after riding the new one like you say not worth upgrading it was more a euro 5 update. The new one has 3 cats and it's welded in making it harder to mess with the exhaust. X pipe and some British customs predator Pro's and it sounds awesome 😎
Oh interesting regarding the welded exhaust... bloody euro5 garbage legislation 😫
I think the new 12-spoke looks better than the older 7-spoke (not 9) on the Speed Twin retro. More spokes looks more retro to me. "R9T models there's hundreds of them" lol!
The bike's a charmer! I really appreciate the upgrade in forks and brakes, as the conventional telescopic forks where always a turn of for me. It still needs a set of some proper pipes. All the Euro 5 bikes sound like shit, imho!
Looks wonderful, have to agree. I think that still a bit of advantage goes to the RS. Sure, it is personal. Drop by man, when have time.
Such a ‘clean’ look… fantastic. I’d more than welcome one into the garage. Great work chops. 👍
Yes completely agree, just need to find some space now 😀 👍
@@LambChopRides Need a shootout.... Speed Twin vs. Z900RS vs. XSR900 vs. Katana vs. .......
Should have more red paint.
Great looking bike though.
But i dont understand the combination of m50 calipers, non adjustable forks and nasty looking rear shocks.
Its a bit of a mismatch in terms of those items.
Better to have lower spec caliper and up the fork and shock capabilities.
Nice Sunday morning vid to set the day off. 😊
That's a lovely looking retro machine and Triumph have even managed to get that triple engine whistling sound into their twin as well.
Great review again Chops 👍😁
Thumbs up for the author, two thumbs down for the bike, Speed twin is poor, cheap example of the Thruxton R(S]
Z900RS takes a simple ECU re-flash to be have perfect fueling, a UJM comfortable enough to tour or sporty smooth enough to commute, rip around town or the canyons…also tires are consumable not a Triumph exclusive
Great review Chops
I’d like Triumph to double skin the down pipes in chrome, which would stop them discolouring. As per my old Honda CB1100; which were gorgeous.
Yes great idea, certainly now as Euro5 means welded systems etc making it harder to change systems 👍
I'm a fan of those (dis)colored pipes. To me the coloring says "Yep, we done some good riding!"
ahem ... did. you say 20 stone? Last I remember it was 18 :)
Yes 😫
Hi chopsy awesome vlog again that's a good looking triumph speed twin mate anyway you take care and ride safe TTFN
Thanks Thumper 👍
Cheers chops.....would be interested on your take of the 2021 MT09sp. ..having owned the 2018 model (which i didnt get on with)but recently tested the the 2021 base model the other day and have to say that i found it a real improvement ....so often bikes are updated with no great sense of betterment ,but now find myself mulling the purchase of the SP mmmm
The Speed Twin cannot match the very tight hairpin handling capability of an agile MT09 SP on a serious mountain pass which can rely on plenty of in-gear punch (that includes high gear torque as well extra power from 7’000 rpm right to the limiter at 11’600 rpm - the low weight certainly helps - my 2020 model weighing in at optimized 182,7 kgs wet).
Great bike. Between this the RS and the RnineT, would pick the RS. Otherwise all are very nice bikes. Thanks for sharing this. Keep up.
G'day Mr Chops. A very good video. What a great machine. Good to look at, silky and smooth, i like that.
If i was in the mood to change my Street Triple i'd be buying one of these.
10:15 are you sure it’s “about 112kg” ?
Yes 212 sorry
I loved the Z900RS but it was let down by the snatchy throttle, not the tyres, though my ride was fairly sedate at the MCN Festival. Unfortunately I couldn't get a ride on the Speed Twin...and I've now decided as I've already got a twin I'm now looking for triple or a four
Just rode this in 33c heat! Loved it! Laughing my head off as I pulled away at the light like a dragster! Twisty roads, and I flung it round , really nice handling bike. I'm around 5"11 and 90kg , was comfortable enough for me!
As always, a very nice review thank you (you rock brother). This bike on the showroom floor looks so much better than it does on video which says a lot about the new nice touches and features . I rode a Truxton RS and thought it was a terrific motorcycle it spun-up so easy almost electric and it was quite nimble. As a former R9T owner, I felt that bike’s bottom end felt rowdier and she wasn’t half bad at the top. I had an aftermarket rear shock (stock is dismal and shameful - 2016 model anyway) but the bike was well planted in the twisties. I thought the Thruxton and perhaps the SPEED , requires less effort (read body English) at a hard pace but that maybe one of the most endearing features of these bikes. Ask yourself what sensory / mechanical experience you like and how you ride. All three will wake the soul it just depends how much of a shake you need. I will ride the SPEED, but I may end with another R9T. The jury is out, cheers.
Thanks very much 👍 must say the R NineT has been impressive but holding out for a dry ride to test the handling properly. Thanks for the feedback though 👍
6,2” & 60….still nowhere near ready to go retro, but I do like em…..nice review as always chopsy 👍
Have you ridden the Royal Enfield Interceptor 650, I would like to see what you make of it. Half the price of the Triumph 🤔. Great Sunday Video.
And less than half the performance and a fraction of the reliability
Stopped at my Triumph dealer Saturday morning for some service on my Tiger 900 and they had one of these on the floor. Thing is a beauty! Great video!
Lovely relaxing way to start my Sunday morning, thank you Chopsy, very much enjoyed 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks James 👍 😊
Very nice vid & bike. A classy machine. Triumph have definitely nailed the retro with modern equipment. Speaking of retros, any chance you can get yourself on the new Moto Guzzi V7 maybe? Supposedly a big improvement over the previous version.
Lovely bike really. Imo also one of the best looking retro styled bikes. Funny thing about your talk about smoothness @2:50 is how from the camera it looks like the bike shaking violently during the entire thing hahaha
Hi was that a sat nav or your phone with a sat nav programme in it ? Cheers, Pete! Ps I bought the Bike 9th March 24,
Thank you
Which is more fun this Speed Twin or the Z900rs?
I’d say 112kg wet for a 1200 is Super light🤪🤪
Another banging review, Chopsy. 👏 We're looking forward to the R nine T comparo.
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Typically great review as usual Chopsy. This Triumph should suit me perfectly as a second bike. Cheers mate.
Crackin review, I love the 360 shots! Well trick!!
Beautiful machine! Thanks for showing her off✌️🍻
Weirdly for me I had a test ride on this bike a couple of days ago. Loved it except for the comfort….seat and peg position just seemed a bit off for me…had a few aches and pains after an hour….too cramped. Oh well👍
Speed twin is pretty good but for me the R Nine T is the best retro.
yes that one lady who watches LCR ,🤣
Ahh so it's a fish supper run with Teapot next. Nice !!
The 2022 is even better. What a monster!
I really like the multi spoke wheels
Great review again chops. I’d be tempted but even at six foot they feel too small, I’d just get that gorilla feeling. A fine looking bike though.
Yes it's a shame isn't it, I feel its way to small for me unfortunately 😕
Good review Chops, loved it when I test rode it so I’ve just upgraded from my street twin to the speed twin new bike being delivered in the new year year can’t wait.
Lucky man Ian! Enjoy buddy 👍
Agree. Great looking machine 😎
Why is it about cruising? Damn thing rips.
Best looking exhaust layout! Just my opinion mind.
Yes great isn't it Jason 👍
This is the 6th review of a Triumph motorcycle that I have watched and every one was done in the UK with wet roads. Don't you guys ever see the sun over there?
Anyway, Nice review but I had to end it early because I got the very distinct impression that you were constantly justifying faults and making excuses as though you were beholden to Triumph for loaning you the bike. Cramped, Lousy Brakes "the brake ARE there...", Crap suspension, Very little engine braking, Not sporty feeling, Not for the twisties, No LED headlight, Vibrates like a MFer over 5K RPM. So what else should we know, is there a center stand? What is the range with that tank? Do the pegs scrape when you lean it over for a curve (you know, if it ever dries out over there). Anyway, thanks for the review. I did learn a lot. Thumbs up and subscribed.
Another great review and constanty making me laugh! 20 stone fatty! I'm sure your not really but very amusing, Chopsie! Catching up on your older videos. Keep em coming buddy.
Your review of the 2021 Triumph Speed Twin has convinced me - sell the big1983 Suzuki GS 1100 and buy the Trumpy. Note: I have a 1969 Triumph Trophy. Rebuilt it. Make it a trailer queen. Why have a bike and not ride it everywhere? If it ain't covered in road grime and insects, you're not riding it enough. This from Aus, where if you don't have a bike, you ain't living.
Nice review, thanks
Still getting used to mine as I just bought it 2 weeks ago, but I do have some disappointments. 1. Turn sigs are not self-cancelling (?) 2. The kickstand comes up between the peg and the shifter. Difficult to access. 3. You have to remove the sprocket cover to add coolant. What were they thinking? On my T120 there is a neck sticking out of the left side with a cap on it.. I am a little surprised at the gear ratios in road mode. I'm in 5th in a city block and 6th at 50.
Great reveiw video Chopsy. Love all the content mate. Keep up the good work.
Quick question though…???
Being a fatty, only a few McD’s away from your good self and 6’2” tall. How would this bike fit?
It will be my first bike as well. Fell in love with the looks of this and the speedmaster. Both of which you have reveiwed. Any recommendations as cant find a Speed Twin to test ride.
Any help would be much appreciated. Worried i might be a bit to cramped on the Speed Twin. Pillion passenger on the odd occasion.
Cheers big fella!👍🏻
Love the look, would like the bike to be a bit taller with about 15 more HP, just because I want 115hp. LOL… So, this is my dilemma , 6’3.5” tall, 33.5” inseam, 247 pounds… want to get a Triumph again, but want it to fit better than the Street Triple 2018 RS did. Any thoughts? Currently own the 2018 R1200GS which ain’t going anywhere. Thoughts Chops?
well done, well done! Getting ready to punt my 2000 BMWR100S for the Speed Twin - I know its entirely different but I like the naked look (last was a 2013 1200 Sportster bobber) and retro of the Triumph. Thank you choppy!
Looks and sounds very nice 👍 great review as always chops
Thanks Pete 👍
Nice one👍. But what’s flapping about on the exhaust at 15.22? Two things not addressed from my viewpoint, the front mudguard is still way too short and won’t stop crap from the road splashing over the front of the engine. Secondly, those clocks almost appear horizontal which is fine for a tall chap like yourself but how visible are they to a smaller chap or chappess?
Perfect way to start a Sunday morning. Thanks Chops!
Thanks Jamee 👍
I rode the R9T this weekend. Quite underwhelming compared to the speedtwin to be honest. I actually preferred the GS over it by a long shot
Beautiful Bike Chopsy , I’ve got a 2023 sitting in my shed. A very happy man
Cheers keep up the great work.
I love the look of this bike. Ummm, it's a very tasty looking bike in that red colour. Surely Chopsy 1200cc twin is more than enough fun to have on it? Despite the fact it's not super naked bike. I think you should do a comparison video, comparing it to the BMW R Nine T or the Kawasaki 900 that you reviewed a month ago. Chopsy you answered my prayers about the the need for a comparison video between these bikes by the end of the video. Fantastic!👍
There is something to be said about an parallel twin engine. Triumph seems to have been making them forever. Parallel Twins never let you down and give you all you need in terms of performance. Particularly that lower end torque This I think gives it the advantage over the Kawasaki inline four. It will be interesting to compare this parallel engine to the BMW boxer engine.
This is one where Triumph has absolutely nailed it! I wish the new Speed Triple was tuned similar to this - a Superduke rival maybe! I would have bought one no doubt! And I agree, grunt over revs any day :)
They should have made the new speed triple with the t - plane engine
@@Bow-to-the-absurd God save us all from the T-Plane crank. Whoever it was at Triumph who designed that awful crank wants shoving up the arse with the butt end of a Ragman's trumpet
Have you ridden the new Speed Triple, it just wants to lift the front, how much power you want???
Rode one last week and did find the throttle snatched on pick up so wonder if your example had throttle spacers fitted? Also you claimed the weight is 112kgs wet ~ that’ll be old money I guess 😂
The previous gen was an eye catcher for sure, and despite it's wee foibles, all bikes have them, it was very well received. I think on this model though, Triumph have overplayed their hand. USD forks and radial calipers definitely do not belong on this. I get they are looking for bullet points on the brochure, the big recognised manufacturers names in there, to differentiate the model years, but I think it's to the detriment of the bike overall. Just my opinion of course, I'm sure loads of folks will love it :>)
Not sure I could live with one as my only bike but lovely bike. Now I’m over 60 and the body is starting to creak I could be tempted off my heavy super comfortable GSA🤣
Hi, very good video thanks mate, you mentioned it is your preferred retro bike, do you consider the thruxton rs in your choice or not ? I will go to try them as I am hesitating between the cafe racer look and the more classic one of the speed, I am interested by your feedback as on your video of the thruxton you were very enthusiastic.... I tried already the Z900RS and the previous speed twin and the BMW R nine T, I preferred the chassis of the Z, I enjoyed the torque of the nine T, this is why now I consider again the triumph with the improvement they made on it...
I put your height and weight into a BMI calculator and it said you are obese.
The Triumph suspension said the same thing.
Would like to see the beemer comparison though I’m trying to buy British going forward. That said I’m interested in the differences between this and the Thruxton RS which I think may be my next bike.
I reckon those brake pads are a bit softer due to all the squealing brake complaints triumph have had tbh. But yeah, love it. I know some people don’t like that it’s gone more modern, but tbh there’s so, so, so many Bonny’s they need one that’s in that neo-retro lean. I don’t want any more fancy electronics, but yeah I really like this.
Love the review, btw do you have the photomatic helmet shield? I was thinking of buying one i just don't know if it's dark enough. what are your thoughts?
I test rode this and the z900rs. I found the Triumph to be a bit lethargic at the throttle with less than ideal suspension. I ended up buying the Kawasaki which just needs an ecu tune to perfect the throttle touchiness. I think it mostly came down to ride by wire vs cable actuated throttle. I prefer the rawness of cable throttle.
I'll be interested in your BMW R nine T review.. back to back with this triumph 👍
Such a shame its lost that retro styling
On the positive you can now pick up a better looking none euro 5 compliance cheaper.
I'm between this one and the new Z900RS YellowBall. What do you say?
Just put money down on a red one, pick it up end of June, cant wait. Love the look of the front end over the old one. We dont get a chance for a test ride here, they sell as soon as they hit the floor, so your review is really helpful on me taking a punt. Cheers from NZ
Hows this compared to a bmw r nine T classic? Which one is faster? Better handling?
This compared to street triple R? Which one is better? Handling, power?
Hi, i bought the same bike last week and i am facing the engine heat issue while riding especially in slow speeds and in traffic. The hot air literally feels in my thighs and it makes the ride experience unpleasant. Do you also feel the same issue? If yes, then how can it be resolved please help. I’m from India 🇮🇳
Big engine, big heat ... Get 125-500 cc if you don't want engine heat
14:49 My Buell Ulysses accelerates like this in top gear [5th] from the same revs.
Excellent review. You are much more knowledgeable than the vast majority of UA-cam motorcycle vloggers. I will look forward the the RNineT review. My favourite 1200 cc bike would be the Urban G/S variant.
at a quick glance of the thumbnail I thought it was a RE interceptor!
I was riding up that road and couldn’t believe how much crap there was on the road
so this is smooth?
Would you have this or the Yamaha XSR900 (2020)
MCN said the previous model makes better midrange power.
It's a nice bike but no cruise control on the open road is crazy.
haha...always no vibrations at all.... 03:21.......no, I am sure its a nice engine.
perfect for riding between pastie shops ay Chops ? nice one mate another good review
I'm really split between this and the Z900RS
Great review Mr chops I like the bike thanks from Danny
Did you say lady and gentlemen? So you know my Sally loves your work!! She will be pleased! Retro a bit like myself! 👍
Haha yes little joke, well there you go shoutout for Sally 😁