I tried both bikes on the same day and agree completely with your conclusion! I think the best looking Thruxton they ever did was red with the half fairing 👌
I am a big fan of the Thruxton and Speed Twin 1200. They are beautiful bikes. Personally I own the Scrambler versions of the 400, 900, and 1200. When asked the 1200 engine is wonderful and has lots of power. But the most common question is which makes the most sense and why I really like my 1200 for the most power and perfect bike for travel, and the 400 for a super light and flickable bike around town, the 900 is the most versatile, most approachable, easiest to ride, most cost effective, and best all around bike like a Swiss Army knife. I highly recommend the 900 iterations of Triumph’s Modern Classic series… so if you are looking for something in the Speed Twin realm, take the Speed Twin 900. However, motorcycling has a lot to do with your heart and desires and sometimes we make decisions against logic and common sense as it could be the case with the Thruxton and Speed Twin 1200… on the danger that you need a second mortgage, the wife threatens you with a divorce, and the shrink questions your sanity during your next session, do what feels right for you…
54k on my 2016 Thruxton so not to far behind you , you had any issues ? mines spot on mechanically even though previous owner neglected it and rode it all year (I did first valve clearance check at 54k ! ) Its low throttle that I'm getting problems plus load bangs/pops on overrun , did Triumph recall (re map ) with stalling issue improve things , getting done next week
I have a 2016 Thruxton R 1200 with the throttle spacer. Makes a huge difference in smooth throttle application on these big twins in my opinion. Getting up into my 50s now and wanting a more upright riding position. The Speed Twin 1200 appears to be the ticket. The Thruxton R is such a beautiful bike I have been reluctant to give it up just yet. Thanks for your review.
Nice overview, Bry👍 As an ex-Speed Twin 1200 owner, I agree with pretty much everything you said. However, I’m very surprised you found the stock, almost slick tyres acceptable in the wet. I found mine almost dangerous on the couple of occasions I got caught out in a downpour. Fortunately, it doesn’t rain too often here in the Algarve. Keep up the good work, it’s refreshing to have input on bikes like these from younger, female riders😊
Rocketman...I'm seriously considering the 24 Tiger Rally Pro, but, interested in your comparison between it..., and your former Speed Twin.... (In case you happen to see this)....
These comments... It's such a nice channel. I like the Thruxton. 4.5 hour rides to the coast on the weekends are fine. Jeez. I'm not a tube sock filled with Jello like the body type that can't ride a bike for a long time.
I have a 2023 Speed Twin 900 I'm using mostly as a daily rider to commute back and forth cross town to work. Makes the commute quite fun! I like the fact it's smaller, more nimble, and flickable. The 1200 is just more bike than I need.
@@frazzle657 There are good quality makes of shock available that are cheaper than the pemium priced Ohlins. Get something that is set for your weight and riding style.
It’s defo time to release the Speed Twin RS, especially after they have discontinued the Thruxton now. Nice review and comparison thanks, much appreciated, keep up the great work! Ps got a Thruxton and I love her so much I will never ever part with her, in fact I am contemplating getting buried with her 😂
Great review. I've had a RS each of the last two summers, really a blast of a bike. Swapped mine in for a Ducati Diavel V4, but with the announcement of the end of the run, seriously considering buying another RS as it was such a great bike.
There is a new Speed Twin coming with upgraded suspension and a new fuel tank and other updates. Now the Thruxton is being fazed out this year you can bet there will be an RS version of the 1200 Speed Twin.
Thank you Bry for the very detailed review. You covered all important details, making it easier for anyone to make their buying decision. Always enjoy your reviews and your rides in real world conditions. Cheers and stay safe, Dan. ✌️🏍🇨🇦
Triumph nailed it with the 1200 speed twin, look great, plenty of go ......and particularly with the Thruxton (being a fairly enthusiastic rider), shame it's been phased out.
sign of the times , potholes are now apparently an accepted everyday hazard rather than the exception. why the power difference, they are the same motor ?., is ithe exhaust / mapping that makes the difference?. Those down pipes on both are really blued, is this common on all of them or a fueling issue, or just thin metal?.
Usually the biggest factor affecting power differentials is camshafts. My guess is, just a guess, the Thruxton has cams with more lift and duration. But there's a ton of other factors that could affect it, too: differences in valve sizes, fueling amount and richness of mixture, air inlet flow, exhaust restrictiveness, compression ratio of pistons, spark advance and so forth. Exhaust header pipes have always discolored from time immemorial. Although I've noticed stainless seems to discolor the least. Only black pipes like you see on a dirt bike don't discolor. Nowadays those header pipes get hotter than ever (and they have always gotten very hot). The catalytic converter tends to raise the temperature of the pipes both pre and post-cat. Higher pressure = higher heat, and there's greater pressure inside the header pipe because the catayltic converter is restricting its flow. Usually nowadays it's there's an inner separate pipe surrounded by dead air space, that fits inside the outer pipe, to minimize discoloration.
Give us a bike with decent tyres, mudguards, suspension and a good comfortable seat For God's Sake. No front mudguard, how dare you Triumph 😤 Where's all that Muck and dirt going to end up. Build the bloody thing properly, this is the UK 🇬🇧 We like things done properly.
I've never been able to warm up to these water cooled Triumphs in the same way I do with the air cooled ones. They went to 270 cranks. The 360 firing order is really what makes these bikes what they are, and now it's gone. They also went overboard with the BLACK BLACK BLACK everywhere on the engine and rims , even the mirrors! To me all the blacked out bits look ...let me be nice about it...NOT as good as chrome or polished metal. Then they give you useless 1/2 front fenders , not the full beautiful metal fenders on the 2001-2015. T100 . They also aren't offered in those classically styled dual-tone paint schemes, anymore. You know, the swooping stripes that come down either side of the tank, and narrow as they move further back, set off by a pinstripe. Then, they got the drive modes and traction control and anti locks, which maybe you can shut it off or maybe not? Guy Martin blames a really bad wreck on traction control. I don't want to experiment to test if the traction control saves me or kills me. I don't know how the traction control being activated will affect my balance, traction, handling or speed, and if it causes something unexpected or sudden or undesirable regarding my control over the bike, I don't want to wind up with my face on the road. Now they want to charge, what, $379 for an "accessory" center stand, when the originals had i a center stand standard, this is an add-on on a motorcycle that costs $15,000? Nice bikes they are! Just not for me! They've moved too far away from the essence of the thing!
@@alandmorley Yeah, I agree. Motorcycles should shine, and be painted with bright colors. Not dark and monochrome like a morose hearse. Ever heard the song Kodachrome? "Give me those nice bright colors / Give me the greens of summers / Make me think all the world is a sunny day." That's the look I want from a motorcycle: joy
My riding buddy has a Thruxton RS. I ride a T120. He can sit that Thrux for a maximum of about two hours in a day, where my T120 is all-day comfortable. He also has about 50 miles less range due toa smaller gas tank and considerably less MPG. True, he wins in any contest involving speed and power, but his bike's limitations curtail its usefulness when riding any distance at all.
Thruxton is being discontinued for many reasons. Can't imagine riding in that position for hours? Not for me. Nicely modified '22 ST in Storm Grey. They have exactly the same engine. They just have less restrictive(louder) mufflers on the Thruxton.
The mistake you make is thinking that the “900” has anything to do with the “1200”. They are not related at all. In fact, not long ago, the 900 was name after another line of bikes - the “Street” line - same as the 900 scrambler. This is because those two bikes are related. So comparing the 900 to the 1200 is pointless and shows your ignorance
@@taylodl Unfortunately it's just more electronics to go wrong, don't need them, myself and I have the option to buy older bikes which are cheaper so you are correct I don't need to use them.
I tried both bikes on the same day and agree completely with your conclusion! I think the best looking Thruxton they ever did was red with the half fairing 👌
I am a big fan of the Thruxton and Speed Twin 1200. They are beautiful bikes. Personally I own the Scrambler versions of the 400, 900, and 1200. When asked the 1200 engine is wonderful and has lots of power. But the most common question is which makes the most sense and why I really like my 1200 for the most power and perfect bike for travel, and the 400 for a super light and flickable bike around town, the 900 is the most versatile, most approachable, easiest to ride, most cost effective, and best all around bike like a Swiss Army knife. I highly recommend the 900 iterations of Triumph’s Modern Classic series… so if you are looking for something in the Speed Twin realm, take the Speed Twin 900. However, motorcycling has a lot to do with your heart and desires and sometimes we make decisions against logic and common sense as it could be the case with the Thruxton and Speed Twin 1200… on the danger that you need a second mortgage, the wife threatens you with a divorce, and the shrink questions your sanity during your next session, do what feels right for you…
My '23 Speed Twin is a great daily rider. A very easy bike to bond with.
Good vid. I have a 2016 Thruxton with over 60k miles and it still runs like a top. Great bikes!
Amazing
54k on my 2016 Thruxton so not to far behind you , you had any issues ? mines spot on mechanically even though previous owner neglected it and rode it all year (I did first valve clearance check at 54k ! ) Its low throttle that I'm getting problems plus load bangs/pops on overrun , did Triumph recall (re map ) with stalling issue improve things , getting done next week
I have a 2016 Thruxton R 1200 with the throttle spacer. Makes a huge difference in smooth throttle application on these big twins in my opinion. Getting up into my 50s now and wanting a more upright riding position. The Speed Twin 1200 appears to be the ticket. The Thruxton R is such a beautiful bike I have been reluctant to give it up just yet. Thanks for your review.
Pop some risers on
Those are two fun and attractive bikes. So much more classic and traditional than my Speed Triple. I am a Thruxton fan.😊
That ring of yours waving around the tank was making me hyperventilate. 🙂
Nice overview, Bry👍 As an ex-Speed Twin 1200 owner, I agree with pretty much everything you said. However, I’m very surprised you found the stock, almost slick tyres acceptable in the wet. I found mine almost dangerous on the couple of occasions I got caught out in a downpour. Fortunately, it doesn’t rain too often here in the Algarve. Keep up the good work, it’s refreshing to have input on bikes like these from younger, female riders😊
Rocketman...I'm seriously considering the 24 Tiger Rally Pro, but, interested in your comparison between it..., and your former Speed Twin....
(In case you happen to see this)....
If you come back to the uk, you’ll find you need tank tracks not tyres due to the amount of potholes 😂
I think the roads in places like the Algarve might generally be worse at handling the rain? Since it's not as big a consideration in that climate
These comments... It's such a nice channel. I like the Thruxton. 4.5 hour rides to the coast on the weekends are fine. Jeez. I'm not a tube sock filled with Jello like the body type that can't ride a bike for a long time.
I have a 2023 Speed Twin 900 I'm using mostly as a daily rider to commute back and forth cross town to work. Makes the commute quite fun! I like the fact it's smaller, more nimble, and flickable. The 1200 is just more bike than I need.
Love my SpeedTwin. Got Ohlin's on back from Thruxton, a TuneECU, Tec exhaust, comfort seat from Crafton, FreeSpirit belt conversion, etc.
Love the Vlog !
@@DaBinChe I'm waiting on my crafton greaser for mine. Would love some ohlins but can't justify the cost yet
@@frazzle657 There are good quality makes of shock available that are cheaper than the pemium priced Ohlins. Get something that is set for your weight and riding style.
Great review … someone who has actually ridden the bikes in real world conditions. Thank you.
Great reviews, your enthusiasm shines through for that Thruxton.
Thruxton RS is a dream of a motorbike. 🤤
It’s defo time to release the Speed Twin RS, especially after they have discontinued the Thruxton now. Nice review and comparison thanks, much appreciated, keep up the great work! Ps got a Thruxton and I love her so much I will never ever part with her, in fact I am contemplating getting buried with her 😂
Great review. I've had a RS each of the last two summers, really a blast of a bike. Swapped mine in for a Ducati Diavel V4, but with the announcement of the end of the run, seriously considering buying another RS as it was such a great bike.
Im willing to bet in 1-2 year they release a speed twin 1200 rs with the suspension that the former thruxton rs had.
In 2-3 years it will cease production because of the emissions standard.
@Karsimier if you check out motobob you'll find they actually are doing exactly what I predicted
There is a new Speed Twin coming with upgraded suspension and a new fuel tank and other updates. Now the Thruxton is being fazed out this year you can bet there will be an RS version of the 1200 Speed Twin.
@@Karsimier A new 1200 Speed Twin is coming which meets all the latest emissions.
@fyorbane yup saw spy photos of it a few weeks ago. Has some nice bits but the tank cut outs look odd similar to the scrambler xe/xc.
The twin just needs the suspension. Now that they got rid of the thruxton, then can make a speed twin 1200 R
Very nice personal review of the bikes and not just Triumphs sales blurb. You have got really good at this in a short time. Well done.
Thank you for this. I've been thinking about upgrading my Street Twin (ya, before the rename) to Speed Twin 1200 and this was so helpful.
Thank you Bry for the very detailed review. You covered all important details, making it easier for anyone to make their buying decision. Always enjoy your reviews and your rides in real world conditions. Cheers and stay safe, Dan. ✌️🏍🇨🇦
Quick shifter on the thruxton is a must.
What a good review that is I love my speed twin just had first service the sound and torque are addictive quality bikes 👍
Triumph nailed it with the 1200 speed twin, look great, plenty of go ......and particularly with the Thruxton (being a fairly enthusiastic rider), shame it's been phased out.
The throttle play was sorted with this version of the 1200 Speed Twin over the previous version.
I have a 2018 T100 since new. Enjoy your video with British accent!
Inside leg measurement ? More useful that your height 👍
sign of the times , potholes are now apparently an accepted everyday hazard rather than the exception.
why the power difference, they are the same motor ?., is ithe exhaust / mapping that makes the difference?.
Those down pipes on both are really blued, is this common on all of them or a fueling issue, or just thin metal?.
Usually the biggest factor affecting power differentials is camshafts. My guess is, just a guess, the Thruxton has cams with more lift and duration. But there's a ton of other factors that could affect it, too: differences in valve sizes, fueling amount and richness of mixture, air inlet flow, exhaust restrictiveness, compression ratio of pistons, spark advance and so forth.
Exhaust header pipes have always discolored from time immemorial. Although I've noticed stainless seems to discolor the least. Only black pipes like you see on a dirt bike don't discolor. Nowadays those header pipes get hotter than ever (and they have always gotten very hot). The catalytic converter tends to raise the temperature of the pipes both pre and post-cat. Higher pressure = higher heat, and there's greater pressure inside the header pipe because the catayltic converter is restricting its flow. Usually nowadays it's there's an inner separate pipe surrounded by dead air space, that fits inside the outer pipe, to minimize discoloration.
Give us a bike with decent tyres, mudguards, suspension and a good comfortable seat For God's Sake.
No front mudguard, how dare you Triumph 😤
Where's all that Muck and dirt going to end up.
Build the bloody thing properly, this is the UK 🇬🇧 We like things done properly.
well said
That’s funny, because we British are normally a tough bunch and don’t need a comfortable bike. Guess your a mod and not a rocker..
Can we purchase a thruxton in the UK and get it delivered in other regions?
Dash on a car not a bike ,ride safe👍clocks sounds much better ,but great review ❤
Great comparison review Bry. As much as I love both, at 6'5" I'm going to stay on my Africa Twin 👍
You should try a R Ninet/R12 NineT - I have the former - bloody great bike
11:59 yeah sure. Of course it is because you didn’t see the navigation 😉
I've never been able to warm up to these water cooled Triumphs in the same way I do with the air cooled ones. They went to 270 cranks. The 360 firing order is really what makes these bikes what they are, and now it's gone.
They also went overboard with the BLACK BLACK BLACK everywhere on the engine and rims , even the mirrors! To me all the blacked out bits look ...let me be nice about it...NOT as good as chrome or polished metal.
Then they give you useless 1/2 front fenders , not the full beautiful metal fenders on the 2001-2015. T100 . They also aren't offered in those classically styled dual-tone paint schemes, anymore. You know, the swooping stripes that come down either side of the tank, and narrow as they move further back, set off by a pinstripe.
Then, they got the drive modes and traction control and anti locks, which maybe you can shut it off or maybe not? Guy Martin blames a really bad wreck on traction control. I don't want to experiment to test if the traction control saves me or kills me. I don't know how the traction control being activated will affect my balance, traction, handling or speed, and if it causes something unexpected or sudden or undesirable regarding my control over the bike, I don't want to wind up with my face on the road.
Now they want to charge, what, $379 for an "accessory" center stand, when the originals had i a center stand standard, this is an add-on on a motorcycle that costs $15,000? Nice bikes they are! Just not for me! They've moved too far away from the essence of the thing!
For me all that black makes a bike look sad.
@@alandmorley Yeah, I agree. Motorcycles should shine, and be painted with bright colors. Not dark and monochrome like a morose hearse.
Ever heard the song Kodachrome? "Give me those nice bright colors / Give me the greens of summers / Make me think all the world is a sunny day." That's the look I want from a motorcycle: joy
Agree
My riding buddy has a Thruxton RS. I ride a T120. He can sit that Thrux for a maximum of about two hours in a day, where my T120 is all-day comfortable. He also has about 50 miles less range due toa smaller gas tank and considerably less MPG. True, he wins in any contest involving speed and power, but his bike's limitations curtail its usefulness when riding any distance at all.
Which part of England is your accent from?
you like wich one😊😊
My word both are pretty smokey. I hope a properly broken in one would be a bit healthier.
Thruxton is being discontinued for many reasons. Can't imagine riding in that position for hours? Not for me.
Nicely modified '22 ST in Storm Grey.
They have exactly the same engine. They just have less restrictive(louder) mufflers on the Thruxton.
The mistake you make is thinking that the “900” has anything to do with the “1200”. They are not related at all. In fact, not long ago, the 900 was name after another line of bikes - the “Street” line - same as the 900 scrambler. This is because those two bikes are related. So comparing the 900 to the 1200 is pointless and shows your ignorance
Unfortunately I am straight away put off by "rider modes" I'll stick with what I have thanks.
Agreed, that's what the throttle is for.
@@tedcity5861 and fingers instead of abs...don't need no fancy tech helping me ;)
It's not like you have to use them...I don't
@@taylodl Unfortunately it's just more electronics to go wrong, don't need them, myself and I have the option to buy older bikes which are cheaper so you are correct I don't need to use them.
@@WellBoared My experience is "the electronics" are far more reliable and less fussy than a carburetor.